The Many Scams & Downfall of Machinima (2006 - 2019)
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- If you saw the Machinima intro on a MW2 sniper montage, you knew you were in for an absolute banger... This video will cover the scams and bad decisions and ultimately led to the downfall of Machinima. Machinima went from one of the biggest names on UA-cam, at one point being the 4th most subscribed in 2012, to a dead channel with every video being made private.
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Literally forgot Machinima was a thing till this popped up in my feed
Me too 😆
Same
I’m glad I’m not the only one. 😂😂
Forgot bout them then I remembered COD Chameleon checked his channel out then remembered machinima.. wish I would of recorded back in the day I was a beast in my COD days.. knife only nukes or 1v6s in S&D w knife or intervention. Man I miss those days, LA summer weather 3pm was out of school smoking blunts on the roofs then hitting the food truck then going home & destroying in MW2 simpler times.
Kelso Watsey same with me
Like just imagine if in a few years people forgot about Disney
They pursued us back in 2012. Their contract terms were ridiculous and we turned them down cold.
130k subs and this was 8 years ago? Yeah I doubt that
appledong At that time we were one of the larger automotive channels on UA-cam at around 30k subs with views that outperformed many other channels. UA-cam was tiny by comparison back then. I did an interview with Reuters at the time if you really care you can look that up. By the end of 2012 we put our YT channel on the back-burner (instead, focusing on international syndication of our show, which actually did much better $$ there than on YT.) Only at the end of 2018 did we put focus back on the YT channel, which has been growing steadily since. Subs are important, but they aren’t relevant in terms of ultimate reach or revenue.
Driving Sports TV damn you showed him
thank god they died
appledong get noobed
Machinima had SUCH A HIGH potential to be a MASSIVE gaming corporation. But instead, they made it into a scam.
Probably in a alternative universe, Machinima is probably bigger than Twitch and basically a backbone for the Gaming industry in our time.
Mashitima
@@supportmalphite8769 the auto translate says "mashitima" translates to "condemnation" how fitting
Uh yeah no. There's no channel that is 100% dependent on other people's content that remains successful overtime. Especially not if that channel specializes in child exploitation.
Honestly glad they died hope their corporate leaders lost tons of money
It's absolutely crazy how this entire instance went over our head.
We were kids and didn't care, instead of watching news about machinima we were watching 360 noscope montages on machinima
I definitely agree.
I think a lot of us knew Machinima were shitty but were just too young to care. The creators just dealt with it because it was their only way of making income and content creation as a job was still in its infancy.
The machinima logo was in front of so many videos that I didn’t even know they were a company at the time. I just thought it was a genre of video. All this drama totally flew over my head at that age and it’s super interesting to see what was actually going on.
Same here.
I thought It's just a intro of people in YT.
Same here, when I was a kid I thought a Machinima was a genre of video describing gaming culture
Same!
The logo being on videos outside their channel is how I discovered them personally, almost a whole decade ago. They're where I discovered many people I still watch today.
Similarly that's how I found out about Rooster Teeth but I never really watched their stuff even when Machinama people went to them.
Machinima so old we never even got to see their logo turn into a oversimplified vector
They already were, right?
Yes we did, for that green shit one
Sadly the green one exists
@@AstralPhnx rip to to all those videos. Was gonna watch noob adventure. Unfortunately it was part of machinma. Also the reupload videos are blocked
What’s with the sudden obsession with graphic design?
2:45, it’s worth pointing out that Ubisoft didn’t actually do this. It was someone pretending to be them to get Phil’s channel taken down because Phil has always been such a hated figure. UA-cam discovered the lie and reinstated his channel.
and that is a thing that hasn't changed since then, only that it now takes 3 strikes
Sounds about like this channel to leave out crucial details.
Yeah... He is a complicated man... But thats what happens... Being with Machinicunts changed me... And not in a good way. But Phil has always had a... Well dark side...
I can't really say much cause I am bitter and angry... But I walked away knowing that I was projecting my anger and self hatred i felt for being so stupid to believe the hype and believe the lies they span.
@@mrravinraven When the mistakes are so often and never addressed, then it becomes a problem. I never understood how so many people can take a channel seriously who uses Facebook and Reddit comments as evidence for anything. Case in point the "Faking Tourettes" video. I like some of the content, but I don't expect much to change since so many people eat his shit up lol
@@mrravinraven i feel it is kind of worth to make sure that was true, especially when it comes to someone impersonating a big company and getting some guys video dropped
Another factor that helped lead to Machinima's downfall that wasn't mentioned in this video was when they made the huge sponsorship deal with Levi's back in 2012. It ended up being their only sponsor for the whole year. Machinima started boasting about the creators they had under their umbrella, name dropping Pewdiepie in particular. Some people at Levi's then looked him up and were greeted by a video where Pewds was screaming about r*pe at the top of his lungs. Levi's got angry that Machinima wasn't clear about what kind of content they were associating themselves with and pulled out of the deal.
Guru Larry ?
I remember this. Stuck in a contract, low CPM, No help. Alot of promise but little actual support. Which leaves everyone fending for themselves. But thankfully, it was a learning process.
Dayemtheking _ people search for videos? You know there are youtubers with little subscribers but get a lot of views.
You should be saying how youtubers with so much subscribers barely get any views.
@Dayemtheking _ It's the search/recommendation algorithm. If you watch a certain type of content (i.e. pointless and irrelevant news/retrospective about crap no one cares about with generic game footage background) it will recommend similar types of content. When you run the filter manually against this guy you get commentary channels like Optimus, ItsAGundam, EmpLemon. Low energy, clickbait videos that always sit around the 10min mark to game to algorithm.
No one learned anything. Entire state governments are like Machinima and so many of their cities are going to collapse, too. And it won't be as much of a "haha, I remember those hijinks" when it happens. It'll be more like, "remember that one time when the homicide rate went up to 50 million, because the globalists and CCP successfully turned Americans against each other".
^what?
@@aw2584 he has his 3rd eye open lol
“What could possibly go wrong?”
*Drama Alert music begins*
Yep, sounds about right
Yeah, as soon as I saw the Drama Alert title I knew who it was, and it sounded pretty accurate.
Tbh Keemstar fucks over most of the things or people he talks about.
@Waqas Ali kinda true tbh
So accurate
I fucking despise Keemstar, but man, he never failed to put himself in the middle of drama
Whoever does not miss Machinima has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain.
It's a nostalgia for us, but their actions deserved to be deplatformed
isn't that what putin said about the ussr?
@@coolterra8491 i knew I'd heard a similar quote somewhere
@@coolterra8491 that quote had existed for a long time. Idk if putin said it too. But in old commie circles they used to say a version that went like "he who was never an anarchist has no heart, but he who is not a communist has no brain" and then there's another that goes "he who was never a communist has no heart" etc etc. It goes on. Virtually anyone could tweak the quote. Too lazy to Google if putin said it tho. But I do know he didn't support the ussr dissolving, but he doesn't really seem like he misses it either
Well said.
I remember Oney being one of the first ones to speak up and make an animation about machinma. It’s what got me to look into them in the first place.
Mashitima 😂😂😂😂
The nostalgia of old UA-cam will always have a place in my heart
It was a simpler time. No corporate bs, no censorship, just good content.
yep, good old days
that yellow subscribe button really hits home
It’s a close memory, but a distant one
I remember that there was this one particular video on UA-cam years ago which was basically horse porn with a voice over.
It’s kinda crazy to think this is lowkey history, and we’re old heads. Kids nowadays will never even know what Machinima is.
Honestly, it would be the best for them if they never found out.
The knowledge of being a kid is a curse yet a blessing i found UA-cam so early back in 2013
@@laspeedyboi3388 yoooo same I'm actually 14 now
Kids these days would never relate to the simplicity of the golden era of UA-cam
Kids these days are now stuck with the likes of Jake Paul and other attention seeking, talentless rich kids.
It honestly annoys me how much money can be made from having a shit haircut and a fan base with an average age of 8.
The only real experience I have had with Machinima was when I used to sell my old
Games on eBay and one buyer messaged me in a very hostile manner demanding more stuff AFTER the sale and saying “I am a machinima editor and you need to do this!” I ignored and reported to eBay after that one 🤷♂️
Snitches get stitches. Your time is coming Jason.
@@tastyburger9260 machinimas time came. 🤯😂
@@tastyburger9260bruh😂😂
So glad i was able to leave, still have my Machinima Respawn hoodie we got for joining.
I was legit wondering what had happened to them not that long again. Thank you for this
Who's red team
Game of thrones guy.
No problem we thought it was timely thanks for watching!
I love your video, and even moreso the ones with Preston! Thanks for the fantastic content!
@@L0wallyn no problem, thank you for watching and appreciating!
I had this whole experience in 2012 with Maker studios as well lol. This video totally brought back those memories.
Yea
Cheah👌🏻
Damn you show up everywhere
Cheyeeeeeaaahhh!!!!
Dude fuck Maker Studios, they're the reason YFM faced an early death/the reason why their album never released
I miss the machinima era of gaming. No stupid MLG or international gaming events. Just people having fun and sharing their cool videos online. Felt like a much smaller and intimate community
MLG was around back then, It just wasn't as in your face as it is now.
@@GoldieH3 There wasn't all that money in gaming championships and it was better. Always online competitive only games have made the gaming scene as a whole about being good more than having fun
Early 2010s MLG when it was strictly Halo & Call of Duty was amazing... Gaming died around 2013 as a whole and has been a shell ever since tbh and its sad
@@KneeCapHill As soon as money gets involved in anything it stops being about fun and more about making green. UA-cam and Twitch are just as much to blame as MLG for people starting to take things too seriously.
@@GoldieH3 But that doesn't make any sense though. People still play games for fun and there are still tournaments where the award isnt money but something else differently. That really isnt an issue. And it also offers more jobs for people who are great at playing games and do it for a living.
The only thing of machinima I really grew attached to was two best friends play. God before game grumps, Matt and pat were the og’s I watched. Their videos were so iconic and I miss them sometimes. Sad that they also were a part of this mess : /
Mans1ay3er (Oblivion/Skyrim/MassEffect youtube poop) and Ross Scott (Civil Protection, Freeman's Mind) were a part of Machinima too.
Keemstar looks like a 45 year old dad with a failed dj career
God having his voice just pop up made me cringe so hard.
dude this is golden
lol this comment deserves an award 🥇
Implying that's not what he is lol
His name is dj killer keem Star for a reason...
Clicked to see what was up with machinima
Stayed because of Runescape music
open.spotify.com/album/75cteI9yLXTEZGJQhOvQJF
soundtrack is on spotify and apple music
This went mostly over our heads as kiddos, and to think the high potential they had...
Damn kinda forgot machinima existed till I saw it’s logo in a random video thumbnail and now I’m here wondering what happened 😅
Same here.
Same here, too.
Nice to see a small channel getting on the recommended page. This is awesome news and information that I didn't even know about Machinima back in the day.
Yeah he's been growing pretty fast, I can tell you right now he puts time in the videos.
@@markoconnell9717 i can tell. They look really well thought out and professional. Definitely got my sub
APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU A LOT :)
@@markoconnell9717 good thing he didnt sign a contract then lol
@@SunnyV2 another jay law
3:11 The moment the RuneScape music kicked in I lost all focus and just smiled thinking of the memories
... Had to rewind
Hahah same
I had to make sure someone else noticed as well lmao
Lol runescape music made the video give me a little nostalgia. Time to fire up old school runescape on my phone
Scrolled further down than I thought I’d have to to see someone point this out lol
Was looking for this comment lol. Pure nostalgia!
Machinima was pretty impactful here in Brazil and in many ways shaped UA-cam gaming perhaps even more than in the rest of the world. Their network actually helped kickstart a bunch of channels that weren't economically viable by the amount of views (which was an issue cause they burned through their cash reserves), and they also had a couple of "poster boys" (Monark and VenomExtreme) who were a big deal before they entered the network, though it was never proved officially, Machinima ran them a bot to bolster the amount of subs they had, in the beginning it was foul play to deceive the algorithm and get them more spotlight, but it got quite silly when around 2014 they had each about 3M subscribers, which was a ridiculous amount back then, and meanwhile their views were fluctuating around 200-250k and after 2016 got even lower. To this day their mostly dead channels have an insane amount of subs from the bots.
i remember seeing them everywhere back then lol but never really noticed they werent around anymore lol
The only thing I remember Machinima for was Freeman's Mind, and luckily the guy behind it (Ross Scott/Accursed Farms) was able to get the rights of his videos back with the help of a lawyer and he was able to continue the series with nothing to do with Machinina anymore, and eventually finished it, and started Freeman's Mind 2. Kinda glad Machinima is no more. Maybe people can get the rights to their content back with them gone.
Funhaus got the inside gaming videos back after the end of machinima
I remember watching sonic for hire when I was 7 or 8 years old
I remember it from bioschock let’s play videos xD
Neebs Gaming lost Battlefield Friends and the Best Friends had to constantly periodically upload videos to Machinima as the only place to watch them.
JeffMakesGames hey i know you! You're the one who make PvZ Soundtrack HQ
I feel like Machinima is just a good allegory for UA-cam as a whole. It started off as this benevolent thing to help people share videos, but eventually they got bogged down with being greedy and lost site of what made them good in the first place.
Just like Disney, Bill Cosby, Michael Jackson, Bungie, StarWars, Dr Who, Robin Williams, America.......
JTAC Bluemansonic Wait two of those people are dead.. So how are they relevant?
@@j_the_don5160 How does being dead change their relevance?
I don't understand how Machinima was greedy... most of the company was made up of small, moderate success, channels. Smaller success means larger percentages have to be taken to achieve the same result as a low percent on a highly successful channel. (Machinma needed to pay for the support network that It provided) And as for the lengths of the contracts, UA-cam was (and still is mostly) an unstable and volatile platform in which entire genres and industries can be destroyed at any given moment. To have any sort of income security on UA-cam, even to this day, is worth every penny that they gave up, however, because UA-cam decided that they will monetize gaming videos many of these UA-cam giants started to realise that they could simply ditch their income security and make more money, until they realised that they couldn't because they hastily signed contracts without taking them seriously...
You think UA-cam started with benevolent intentions? lol. That's adorable!
I was in high school when UA-cam was first launched and being a huge gamer seeing the Machinima logo before a video started was a nearly constant companion. So many great memories from the late 2000s. Never knew all this was going on though.
I miss old youtube layout. When people comment section on their channel as well. It was like a chat room for fans of the youtuber. Also you used to be able to friend people on youtube, it was like facebook friends, except it meant a lot less
In regards to the Darkside Phill thing, that was actually a troll pretending to be Ubisoft. A few days later Phil directly contacted Ubisoft and they had no idea what he was talking about. I believe that the video was then allowed to go ahead after he liased with youtube.
Then he jacked it on stream.
🤣🤣
@@robertinogochev3682 Wait, He's the guy?
@@robertinogochev3682 "There was nothing I could"
Yeah Sunny needs to do a little more research on DSP. Rule #1, NEVER make him out to be a victim like he did in this video.
Loving the RuneScape background music
Them synth trumpets do be tootin' N dootin'.
Very nostalgic video
sea shanty 2?
11$ 🦀
Sosolid2k one of runescapes biggest creators was on machinima
So, probably, the best time to be a gaming content creator was around 2013/2014. Wow, I didn't it was such a hard period for us gamer
The only thing I remember about Machinima are three legends: Sark, SeaNanners, and Hutch
kids these days will never know
I used to be a Respawn Director, those 3 people were awful behind the scenes and used sub bots
Don't forget Sonic For Hire
Darksidephil: Innocently uploads a single 240p gameplay
Ubisoft: Im about to end this mans whole career
It wasn’t them... was a troll larping as UBI
I now realise this was a mistake, however this comment made my day hahaha
DSP: "I did nothing wrong, I did everything correct"
That roach will always find a way to survive ack ack ack
Innocent? Uhh, wrong. It's for thi$$$. It's gross!
2:45 I might have this wrong but I believe that it was actually someone pretending to be Ubisoft who contacted youtube to take down Phil's channel. Not Ubisoft themselves.
I still find it crazy how much of a big deal Machinima was back then, seeing the logo basically assured you that you were gonna watch a really good video and how a lot of content creators kept talking about how amazing it would be to be partnered with Machinima.
Now that they no longer exist it kinda sucks because it's like witnessing Cartoon Network being shutdown and all those memories of watching your favorite entertainment from them are just memories now.
Even to this day if I happen to stumble across an old video that still has the Machinima intro it instantly becomes a blast from the past for me.
Don't get me wrong, I still acknowledge that they're a bad company but the memories are still good and it's kinda sad to know that despite the bad rep they were still part of the golden age of UA-cam before UA-cam got better and then started going downhill to this day.
i remember how i begged machinima to join them and eventually i got to, this was back when it was either them or 0 so i chose machinima, i had terms changed without my knowledge and this is the most funny part
my videos used to be features on their gaming show called inside gaming they kept featuring them there to the point where those shows were mostly about my videos, eventually they started making their own identical videos of gta mods shortly after they stopped featuring my videos, and guess who made those videos? the hosts of inside gaming, and that host eventually started funhaus based on those videos their first video that they made playing mods themselves was a terminator mod for gta 4, so if anything i was the inspiration for funhaus, they completely killed off my own growth (or well it didn't kill my growth but still) to compete with my youtube channel their own partner, they directly competed with their own creator, i am pretty certain that funhaus exists because of me.
That's an amazing story, and I'm sorry that you never got the recognition you deserved because of couple of ungrateful scumbags. Trust me.... I know how you feel to get screwed over by ungrateful leeches of UA-camrs and Companies after you helped them build them up expecting to get help in return, only to get backstab or ghosted by them.
However as a right now there are opportunities with great potential waiting for all of us who was left behind, as a right now or in the future. With faith alone I can already see the future of you becoming a legendary content creator. So you shouldn't give up just yet... instead try new things, experiment with ideas where it will take you, and cultivate new skills that will help you succeed!
Holy shit I never knew this dark history about them... wow I’ve been with Funhaus since I was like 12 watching inside gaming that’s crazy I’m sorry bro
@@TR1LLMAR i actually asked them if this was the case and they have ignored every attempt at asking them about it, and yeah it was sad to see my own network compete with me and then become their own huge succesful channel, ironically the hulk mod for gta 5 they did a video of was a mod based on the one for gta 4 which was a mod mostly of my ideas as i worked with that mod author i got stabbed in the back by MANY
@@taltigolt well then, knowing your story, I guess I have no choice but to boycott funhaus' content from now on even though it wouldn't be that easy for me since a number of my peers talk about them a lot.
@@taltigolt I can totally see Adam and Lawrence doing that tbh they've always been entertaining but have always seemed like assholes adam especially
Didn’t even mention the fact that they copyrighted the word machinima so other youtubers couldn’t even call their vids that. Rooster Teeth and rocketjump/Freddie’s had huge problems with them in the old days of UA-cam
Yep, once they pulled a FineBros, it was all over for them. Honestly at this point I can’t even remember which channel did the whole stupid copyright thing first
ThaBoss00541 machinima definitely did it first. I think they did it around 2010-2012
Ehh, Machinima wasn't ever a very popular word, if it ever was a word, before the channel, so... I could give it a pass. Trying to copyright normal everyday words though is horseshit.
@@JZStudiosonline i wouldn't say it was POPULAR but having words copywritten that are used by artistic communities also really sucks- because to them its an everyday word. Its something that they should at least keep in mind (and the fact another large group like roosterteeth ALSO used the word frequently should be enough for it to be kind of dodgy to claim it). I can find books and pages talking about machinima (making films from video games) dating back to the early 2000's as well so by the time the trademark was made the word used in that context wasn't that "new"
I'm not a copywrite expert by far but there's good and bad ways to go about it. A restaurant pulled something somewhat similar to this. The word "Hon". the restaurant was in a town where the word was pretty popular to use, and when she sent out "cease-and-desists" the people there weren't happy- at all. I've never heard the word used in public or online ever but its that kind of backlash in communities it impacts that really hurts them. (she was in an episode of kitchen nightmares, so her business wasn't doing the best)
The trademark's expired now, enjoy everyone!
Now that I think about it. That Machinima logo did look pretty evil.
Hey what a nostalgic kick in the balls! These videos make me go “Ohhhh wtf I forgot about ___ what happened?!” and then I get to see this incredibly edited video and it never ends with me pissed off. Man keep these coming there’s a million of me out here.
Who doesnt love a bit of runescape music
I know right best soundtrack ever
Idk about you but It helped me remember of ice posidon whe he was actually a good streamer
Read this as it came on
I was thinking the same thing
Most authentic is that it sounds like he recorded his audio with an Xbox 360 mic
Machinima ruined machinima by claiming that "lets' plays" were machinima.
Facts! Machine-Cinema that inspired many like Kootra, danznewz, and gassymexican is not let's plays or call of duty commentaries
DSP, Da Stalinator, Prince of Macedon were the godfathers of 'Let's Play's'.
thats probably whre the Fine brothers got the idea of trademarking reaction videos
Back in the day, everyone wanted a machinima partnership.
This is the 3rd video I watched from this channel and I absolutely love the research behind them. Keep it up, gained a sub💪🏻
Machinima had great potential to act as a negotiating power against the youtube gods. Too bad. Especially considering the situation we are in now.
Yeah but lets be real right, if someone did try to bring back the original ideals of Machinama (As in a middle ground and a automatic gaurentee for new youtubers to get their gaming stuff monetized) either UA-cam would shut it down for whatever reason or people will be too scared to sign up as news outlets will probably twist the potential and bring up the old stories of Machinima.
It could almost have acted as something of a creators' union.
Twitch, can be a similar case we are talking about, but it isn't any better.
@@Jupiter__001_ well it could have but they were still a business that needed to make money so...
@Io
The slingshot channel guy, Joerg Sprave, was trying to create something like that recently. Don't know if it went anywhere.
The only people who want machinima to be back are Nostalgic MW2 Players and Battlefield Friends Fans
The Halo community doesn't get a mention?
PoisoningShadow671 halo officially died with 5
Ti Ko is day it died with 4 really. That’s when it started trying to be more of a cod game than the arena shooter it had been.
Inside gaming
I love your name xD
Favourite segments is “what could possibly go wrong “ followed by drama alert gave me a really good chuckle
You...brought up something in the back of my memories that I had forgotten
How did machinima monetise gaming content back when gaming wasn’t monetisable?
Lawyers. That's how it worked back then. They could afford top lawyers with a federation of creators. Every big channel did this.
In part lawyers and in part because their UA-cam CMS account was in good standing and in those days, they weren't checked very often.
@@joeymann2410 l
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Lee Everett lmao epic comment
I remember when cupquake was apart of machinima, honestly 2012 was such a good nostalgic year for youtube in my opinion
THATS HOW I KNOW MACHINIMA! I remember being a young kid wanting so had to start up this super big UA-cam channel and go with Machinima. Glad I never did that, though I doubt I’d ever get any notoriety considering I was 8 when I wanted to do it, lol. Glad I am where I am today regardless, even if I only have 100 subs on here and 2k on my insta. Growth takes time and work. Fuck Machinima promising all of their bullshit.
Is cupquake still active? Holy shit I just flashed back to middle school
I knew Machinima from watching Sonic For Hire series in early 2012. I missed the golden age of UA-cam
@Mitch Hart omg same. Her voice was so soothing
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I'll admit there were a lot of great series from machinima arby and the Chief, happy hour Saloon, and sanity not included. I really didn't know how how badly Machinima was screwing over content creators, but it still gave me very fun memories
I remember watching Smashtasm all the time from Machinima back in high school and would anxiously refresh my UA-cam page everyday to see if they uploaded the final episode or not, its a shame they never got to finishing that series although there is a fan made finale on UA-cam right now.
That RuneScape music starting at 3:30 brought back memories 😭
"What could possibly go wrong?".. *Enter's Keemstar*
Skybanez when your channel gets mentioned by keemstar expect it to die
Wither Bendisch lmao this is too accurate
Bl1zzard 144 keemstar has the infinity gauntlet in his possession
@@witherbendisch2704 Who is this Keemstar dude I've started seeing more about on some comments about being bad? I tried to google who he was, and is the problem with him, but haven't found anything.
lol
Mw2 and machinima went hand in hand back then! Brings back a lot of good memories
I’m 23 years old and the last time I played RuneScape was like 13 years ago. The background music punched me so hard in the nostalgia.
This was a wild trip down memory lane. It's funny how much I would watch Machinima videos when I was younger, and then how quickly I forget they even existed.
Before the channel became famous, wasn't the term "Machinima" defined as animation/youtube poop/parodies of games? i.e. Red vs blue, Days of our Lives Resident Evil, Raccoon City stories, etc?
I think it was making a parody/show from a video game, but this shit all happened so long ago I can't remember
Ok so I always thought mschinima was making a video with video game characters like people do with gmod but back in the day
I was sitting here thinking I made all that up until I saw this comment
I used to watch old TBC wow videos and they'd always be mschinima
Yeah basically 'Machinima' comes from Machine x Cinema.
I never associated Machinima with game play videos but more with things like RvB and game music videos (such as wow parodies like Nyhm) which seemed to die off in 2011-12.
This is what I remember machinima being. Productions using video game footage.
So this brought back memories of watching Steve and Larson's Top Ten FTW back at the start of the 2010s, when I was in high school. Man, looking through some of the archives brings back memories that were long forgotten about.
Regardless of all of this, Machinima brought COUNTLESS creators to the forefront, and gave viewers an amazing experience. Half the channels I ended up watching back in those days came from discovering them on Machinima. It was the nexus point for all machinima content. Sucks they were so whack though
Is it worth the lives it actually fucked up? Those of us that didn't have the motivation, heart or mental health to continue... For every 1 that went on to get stronger there were 9 of us burned out, angry and just hurt that youtube allowed it.
I know what you mean... But it's kinda like saying its worth destroying the rainforest just so you can have a nice wooden table. Yes it's worth it to YOU but what about the native people and wildlife? It's a very one sided view.
"what could go wrong?"
D R A M A A L E R T
every video lol
Perfect
Underrated comment so true!
I don't think the fall of Machinima was tied solely to their aggressive and bullish business practices. There was also the loss of some of their biggest talent on the platform. For example, Inside Gaming was arguably their biggest draw on the channel. At the time, it was the go-to place for gaming news coverage. I have fond memories of coming home from middle and high school and refreshing UA-cam to see if there was a new video from Inside Gaming, especially when E3 was happening (back when it had prestige and renown). It also helped that it had the crew of Adam Kovic, Bruce Greene, James Willems, Lawrence Sonntag, Sean Poole, Matt Peake, and Joel Rubin, which made the videos all the more enjoyable.
When they announced back in 2015 that they were leaving Machinima, it was kind of the beginning of the end for Machinima. They lost possibly their best team and arguably the best part about Machinima overnight. After that, everything felt bland and generic. The charm that Machinima had was drained and wrung out like a wet rag.
Inside Gaming and later Funhaus was by far my favorite group of content creators until quite recently when most OGs left Funhaus...the combination of Bruce, James and Adam especially is the funniest dynamic I've come across period. They made a series of playing awful game demos absolutely legendary.
I recommend the Demo Disk playlist to anyone who has a sense of humor and no stick up their ass. The tampon bucket, Scrobbles, Boonty Box...their style of comedy was truely unique and I miss it dearly
@@AgeofJP
Well said, that trio and overall original group was unbeatable when it came to funny gameplays.... sad to see it go but then again, everything has to come to an end and that era of UA-cam gaming has long since passed.
2015 was also the year arby n the chief ended, and funnily enough they lost a considerable amount of subscribers the same day, not to mention they kept treating their creators like crap and it was obvious the people working there had no idea of who they were, so to many it was insulting to see push away the only creators they still had
I watch I am Wildcats podcast where he had Sark, Hutch and Nanners on, and Saric basically said that the downfall of machinima happened, when UA-cam told everyone that they can partner them with their ad program.
Good old days of inside gaming🔥🙌
I not only used to watch inside gaming & also naiomi kyle from IGN daily fix
remember her? 😂
I remember my formative years of gaming; Machinima was at the fore front for a lot of it
It's like finding out you're hero has a bloodied past. No retribution for them but only memories and the good ones at that.
Haven't heard of them since I was younger. Wow time has gone by and how hard they had fallen
How ironic that the title is “scams” and I got an ad for a psychic
Yeah @google will shill for anyone, @amazon will too unless it’s a union.
I got an ad for a MLM work-from-home scheme.
I got Fortnite bullshit
@Jacob L shut up
There was a series a videos on Machinima and there were two seasons it was called battlefield friends and some videos still hang around as they have been re-uploaded by smaller UA-cam creators but they're almost all gone the videos were so good as well but they're almost all completely gone and the ones that weren't re-uploaded are gone forever and some of those were my favorite ones it makes me really sad
:(
neebs gaming were the guys who made battlefield friends, and I am fairly certain the entire show as well as their other content is available on their channel?
mine were the GTA IV stuff man i miss them gems lost to a company that turned evil but what company ain't evil
Dude I got news for you somebody was able to archived the entire Thing go to online archives or search around UA-cam videos about battlefield friends and you will find them
@@M4TTYN lots. Lots of companies aren't evil. Get your head out of your ass
I remember watching battlefield friends during BF3 days
Amazing content. Can't believe I'm only just finding it. RS tunes hit differently. Love it. Subbed.
Love the osrs music!! And love all your videos! Keep up the good work man!
Who seen the Machinima logo intro and the sound effects automatically played in their heads?
Lmao I can just hear that with just you saying that
I can literally sound out the intro sound effects I know them so well.
“The early 2000s isn’t a time we can all reminisce on” are you trying to make me feel old lool
I'd love to know everything about that time period on the internet.
An internet devoid of the taint of normality, PC culture and the depredations of jealous and greedy corporations sounds like a mythical realm to me.
What was it like?
@@sailorgoon501 it was a beautiful time on the ol internet explorer which was pretty much the only browser at the time lol, however it was slow as hell loool
@@SpeedosAndTheGun yo take me back. Society keeps getting worse
@@zen608 i think the reason our society is getting worse is because of social media being a thing.
@@SpeedosAndTheGun Uh Firefox was a thing.
Just hearing seannaners name awakened a treasure chest full of nostalgic memories😂
Who else just randomly remembered Machinima, decided to look them up to see what they're up to, and got this lol?
with the dark syde phill thing, it wasn't actually ubisoft it was a troll trying to get rid oh phills channel.
Why am I toxic snort ack ack ack
He failed :/
Remember how hard it was having to click the little "x" on all the annotation video links covering the screen and one of them leading to some kind of Zombie video??
And Ray William johnson atarting the trend of making them the size of the screen, so you click on tge video to pause it, and you go to the linked video instead?
When I was younger I had a UA-cam account that had a lot of Wwe gameplay and skits and also music, this is when Machinima was getting really big with stuff like (Arby n The chief, Pre-Game lobby and cod montages) I got approached by someone from their team I was getting around 200likes-1k and up views and growing, they offered me a position they made it seem like such an amazing thing BUT I wasn’t old enough to sign anything,though they still tried to make me sign stuff my friends mother worked at a law firm (not an actual lawyer but she was in school) at the time she read the contract and thought it was such BS told my mom and not only did my Mom (that didn’t understand the internet but knew about older ppl trying to lure children) cut my gaming privileges and take all my recording equipment. also for some reason my UA-cam account was completely wiped and deleted by UA-cam for breaching copyright and having strikes….
Till this day I believe since I declined the contract they went out of there way to take down my channel to upload content just like mine I even saw one of my jokes in a video
FCK EM
HOLY SHIT an actual outro to a Sunny video, I’m actually in complete shock and awe
It actually was not ubisoft that took dsp down but somebody pretending to be ubisoft
So someone pretended to be Ubi, and YT didn't even cross-checked before taking the entire channel down?
Classy YT.
@@SoftSpokenShank UA-cam never cross check any copyright claim even to this day..
@@SoftSpokenShank oh yeah, they never double-check the copyright claim to make sure it was legit, it's one of the biggest reasons why the copyright system is so shit.
@@puppyhowler Oh yeah it’s gotten so bad to the point where companies or people will just copyright strike your videos for no reason. Even if you weren’t playing a song.
Nostalgic af putting that Runescape music in there. I started playing osrs a few months ago, missed it.
The Runescape background music was super distracting and nostalgic at the same time. You earned a sub
I remember I used to follow this small time youtuber back in 2012 that wanted to partner with someone, and finally announced that he had "done the research" and was convinced machinima was going to take him to the top. Disappeared since then, a real shame considering how much talent he had. I was on the fence about partnering with them myself, glad I didn't, not that I saw much help from maker studio though.
Was so happy to be partnered with Machinima in 2010 when they offered me a contract, kids dream you can say.
Signed a contract without reading much and boom I'm part of a dream.
2015 comes and I get email to RENEW contract with new CPM terms.
I didn't respond as I knew what Machinima was after those years with them.
In next week I got 5 more emails in Spanish and Russian. Didn't respond to a single one.
Got kicked out of Machinma because I never renewed contract.
pou se re axel lol
He's like " I'm not old enough to review the whole history, so let's just talk about what I know"
I still remember some of the series' they had on their youtube and website. Stuff like "The mushroom kingdom chronicles" and some other smash bros series, back during the brawl days.
TMKC in particular had an episode where they were using the smash bros version of an Earthbound song. Fast forward a couple years later (yeah, it was that long ago), and I finally had my hands on a Wii and a copy of smash bros brawl, and I just so happened to hear that song play in one of the levels, and was so happy i found it again. Every now and then i hear it in the back of my head and the nostalgia wave hits me like an oil tanker.
Funny Machinima story:
I was with them from 2011-2014. My original contract was $2 per 1000 views, all views not just monetized views. In late 2012, I was given an ultimatum. Accept the new contract terms or leave the network. It was $1.96 per 1000 monetized views. They got $1.96 by using my average CPM in the last 3 months. I took that deal.
In 2013, my channel was blowing up. 7m views in September out of nowhere. I contacted Machinima and bitched about getting a better contract. They gave me a 80/20 split. October comes around & I get 19m views. My payout was $16,000ish in December. I got pissed thinking “no way, I definitely made more than that.” I contacted them and found out different lol
Turns out, I only made $10,800 that month in ad revenue and analytics showed that. I was overplayed by almost $6000 lmao. They paid me on my old contract of $1.96 per 1000 monetized views rather than the new 80/20 split.
They were cool about it and said just keep it. Needless to say, I did 😂 but $5000? That’s someone’s salary that month. Idk why they didn’t pursue it. This is partly why Machinima failed. They burned money
I think the employees wanted the company to fail
@PetNinja why you delete all your videos?
wow
@Chomo Nice this channel was created in 2014...great research scooby, you get the gang involved on this one?
And if you checked the socialblade data of this channel, Pet Ninja, for the last 2 years you’d see around 100m views have been deleted.
The channel I’m referencing in the above comment was “MrClasssicKxD” now terminated, but also shows up on socialblade.
@@CopsOnPatrol what a loser jesus
No mention of Papa Sark? He was there on the front lines, helping people escape their contracts from within the company and seeing to it that the content they created for Machinima would be given back to the creators. He was the real MVP
He fought really hard for Hutch and SeaNanners
Yeah I remember watching I am wildcats podcast, and Hutch said that he used to think machinima was gonna last forever. I also remember sark saying in the podcast that when he was trying to leave machinima was threatening to sue him.
The most heartbreaking experience I've had was finding out they deleted every single video. There was so much content from so many talented people that's just completely lost forever now.
Yo there better be a backup somewhere holyshit.
That was a dick move lol
Most of it has been reuploaded on the creator's channels.
Mans1ay3r for example was a prominent machinima creator and all of his work has been reuploaded on his personal channel
It's been two years since this video, and I think Machinima's refusal to stop monetizing off of the recently deceased is probably the most disgusting development of (potentially) new information, but at least it's the thing that killed them.
Edd Gould didn't deserve this.
It has taken me a while to bring up the courage to watch anything on this... I was one of the unlucky ones... I was chewed up, spat out and left ... Well lets just say it broke me.
But it wasn't just them... UA-cam has to take some blame. They allowed this. They didn't care as long as they still made their dollar. Machinima was just the john that fucked us... UA-cam were the pimps facilitating it.
It's a long time since I left and i am still so angry and bitter... To the point it became part of me... They stole the best part of me. I will never ever forgive UA-cam for it. Or the fact i spent years hating myself because I stupidly blamed myself.... Even thought I was so dumb I mustve deserved to be taken in and taken for a ride. This video doesn't go into how it burned a lot of us out. How they stole not just money but kinda stole our innocence... Worst part is I took that self hatred and loathing... I turned it outwards and projected. I still do... I don't know how to undo what happened... I don't think I ever will... It's like a scar that is always there and never fully heals.
I want to remember the good parts... And there were. The people I met. The friends I made... Even after certain creators that would go on to be big helped me ... Unfortunately the damage was done. I really wish this video went into that... It wasnt all about money... It was the fact we put our blood, sweat, tears ... our hearts and souls... everything... into content for them to treat us like factory workers. Just there to provide content to increase their brand.
Sorry for the essay... As I said... I am still bitter. On my own I probably would have never broken 10k subs... But at least i'd still have that part of me that could laugh and smile... Sorry again. It's just... Them being killed doesn't feel like it's enough... But nothing ever will be. I wont ever find the old me.
Thank you for posting that though... I didn't know that was another scummy thing they did to add to the list.
@@razerow3391 Pro tips: don't sign contracts for 3 years. Don't rely on UA-cam for money. Get a real job. They're still beating you because you're still obsessed with them.
Always love the stuff Sunny
The "drama alert" dude is so incredibly annoying to listen to.
@@A_Stranger2256 nobody wants to know It
I like him.
5:29 I was like dude, are you having a stroke?
Henry McBark what?
@Flare let's see falsely accusing an old man as a pedo, saying the n word with the hard r, and pushing someone to suicide.
I remember Machinima for Arby 'n' the Chief, The Forgotten Spartans, all that kind of old stuff, you know, the stuff that Machinima is actually defined as (to loosely quote DigitalPh33r / Jon CJG, Machinima is the art of creating a form of entertainment utilising video games as the foundation). Ironically, Xanatos, a HL2 UA-camr made a skit in "The GMan Squad" where the future of Machinima as a network and as a creative art form was solely frag movies and trickshot montages, which is pretty much exactly what it is.
now even trickshottings been dead for over 5 years. jesus christ
You should do Channel Awesome. That is one heck of a downfall story.
The one problem with this for me is, while I am genuinely interested in this story and these events, videos like this always show up when what I'm looking for is *real* machinima. As in, the medium of using a video game or other software engines to produced scripted animated films.
What do you mean real? LOL. The website came before the term was coined to mean animations made from game assets...Up until then they were called after whatever they were made in like the Quake ones that were called "quake movies" it wasn't until well after 2000 that the term spread because people liked it! So technically this is the REAL machinima and you are looking for the other one.
Even if it weren't... Do you get angry at Ford because the name is also a word? What about Strabucks, since Starbuck is a god and also a character from Battlestar Gallactica.
Try just adding "animation" to the search. Hardly rocket science.
that shit is annoying too like if a movie takes the title of something ya wanna look up, then all that comes up is the movie instead of the thing
I wonder how many times he said "Ross Boom Sticks" .
too many
Was looking for this comment lmao. It’s just close enough to understand who he’s talking about, but just far enough for it to be annoying.
I remember binge watching Anoj’s Top 10’s from Machinima when I was in high school and I was so sad when I found out he was leaving for good in 2014. I still to this day honestly missed Anoj because even though he was fairly small back then, he was honestly really enjoyable to watch.
I love how alot of random video's have osrs soundtracks in them, most ppl nowadays don't even know it exists.
I love how he is talking about the intro that was popular back in 2010, when I would've been about 3 when these videos were being uploaded.
Machinima before MW2 was all about Halo. Especially Halo 3, they would go into theatre mode and create content that had unlimited amount of stories within the game. Halo Machinimas were dope. Idk why you never mentioned that when regarded as nostalgia.
yeah how he completely disregarded Halo machinima is beyond me.... even Reach was still popular on the machinima channel
Halo is what started it all!
Red vs Blue, Anoj, etc
@@Ammut6 I forgot about Anoj lol
@@Ammut6 Anoj! Now there's some nostalgia