thanks, I am glad that I found your video but I have some more questions. I use a Megasquirt 3 and just bought 2 Haltech WB2 sets. Now Haltech is very secretive about their frame data and frame IDs. You mentioned that the ID is 950 but I do have 2 WB2s and one was set to A and the other as B by the sales guy and nobody could tell me the ID for the second WB2. I do know they use 11bit Id and 1Mbit transfer speed and Bigendian for decoding multibyte data but I would need the offset for the second Lambda within the dataframe so my ECU finds the date of Lambda 2 and Lambda 4 in the second unit. thanks Bernhard
Hello Bernhard yeah Haltech is very secretive with the CAN Data but most suppliers are to be honest. Yeah so how this came about was the fact that Link and Haltech decided to share the data so that it works. You might find more info in looking at Link CAN Data as that would now be the same as Haltech CAN Data in relation to CAN Lambda setup.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement thanks, will do just that. I don’t think it is a smart move on Haltech side because I need 2 EGT-CAN modules worth close to 1000U$ but decided to look elswhere so I will not get stuck with a basically „unsupported“ product. I have purchased the WB2 already so I have to go through the hassle but not a second time. I thought their products are great as far as features are concerned but in Motorsport there are situations where one has to use a product from another company and they force you to only use Haltech products. Sorry Haltech but the secrecy concerning CAN bus that Bosch invented is unjust. Just as an example, Ecumaster gives you the ability to setup every CAN parameter via USB port with their free software. It takes 3 minutes to match their EGT-CAN controller to my Megasquirt 3 Pro, no Google or CAN sniffer necessary. Simplicity at it’s best.
You mentioned that is possible to daisy chain another wb2 to the bus so as to monitor lambda per cylinder. Have you done it with Link ecu? cause i am interested in doing this for a 4 cylinder engine, using internal controler(FurryX) for Lambda 1 on the exhaust, and 2x WB2 for monitoring each cylinder on the headers.
Personally I have not tried to daisy chain Haltech WB2 with a Link ECU. Being we mostly work on V6 and V8 two Lambda Sensors are usually enough for most people.
Quick question can you use a WB2 but only use one of the lamda's as i have a 1uz but have decided to go turbo so only require 1 now. Dont really want to get rid and then buy the single. Thank you in advance
Hey Jimbob That should be fine. You just need to setup Lambda 1 and put in the lambda settings that it is 1 Bank rather then 2. Then only plug in 1 of the Lambda Sensors
Hello yes that is correct. I normally swap the wires around on the Haltech Side. To keep the CAN Connector Link based if you add anything else to the CANBus.
Hello Brandon Yeah as long as all the items on the CAN Bus are communicating at the same speed and that any CAN ID's are not going to clash then you are fine. Also remember that you can have multiple devices an a single CAN Bus but you must fit terminating resistors at each end. This will determine which items go where. So if your ECU and your dash have built in terminating resistors then the CAN Lambda need to go in the middle between the two devices.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement Hi thanks for the information. if we use the vehicles can bus to attach some thing at a different speed. Shouldn't the cars gateway take care of the speed difference?
Hello Midnight I'm afraid not the devices don't have the ability to change the speed of the CAN bus. If you look at a vehicle's canbus they usually run at 250 or 500kbits and if you want to connect say a Link Lambda then that will communicate at 1mbps. If you tried to connect all 3 on the same bus then it won't read. Usually on vehicle CAN bus systems you don't have the ability to change the speed.
phoenix can you makea video and teach us how to establish and understand INJECTOR DEAD TIMES and how they effect air fuel ratio and tuniung im so lost on this subject
Hello Rebwar08 what I can do for you is give you links to some video's that go into the subject in great details for you so you can get info from various reputable sources. ua-cam.com/video/Id7zc4NjQfE/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/0m-THF8Ouak/v-deo.html I would also advise if you want to get into great depth on the subject is to enrol on a course with HPAcademy or Evans Performance academy where they will go into great detail on the subject for you.
All new to me, but easy to follow as it is explained so clearly. Like the videos you are putting up.
Glad you like them!
Great vids! I used a WB2 kit with my Vipec/G4+ it just needed a fused relay direct to the battery in my 350z. Cheers for the tip on the resistor!
Glad it helped
Awesome 👍. You are the greatest of all time! I was struggling to get this figured out. Thanks so much for this. Helped me out BIG TIME😅
Glad I could help!
thanks, I am glad that I found your video but I have some more questions.
I use a Megasquirt 3 and just bought 2 Haltech WB2 sets. Now Haltech is very secretive about their frame data and frame IDs. You mentioned that the ID is 950 but I do have 2 WB2s and one was set to A and the other as B by the sales guy and nobody could tell me the ID for the second WB2.
I do know they use 11bit Id and 1Mbit transfer speed and Bigendian for decoding multibyte data but I would need the offset for the second Lambda within the dataframe so my ECU finds the date of Lambda 2 and Lambda 4 in the second unit.
thanks Bernhard
Hello Bernhard yeah Haltech is very secretive with the CAN Data but most suppliers are to be honest.
Yeah so how this came about was the fact that Link and Haltech decided to share the data so that it works.
You might find more info in looking at Link CAN Data as that would now be the same as Haltech CAN Data in relation to CAN Lambda setup.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement
thanks, will do just that.
I don’t think it is a smart move on Haltech side because I need 2 EGT-CAN modules worth close to 1000U$ but decided to look elswhere so I will not get stuck with a basically „unsupported“ product. I have purchased the WB2 already so I have to go through the hassle but not a second time. I thought their products are great as far as features are concerned but in Motorsport there are situations where one has to use a product from another company and they force you to only use Haltech products. Sorry Haltech but the secrecy concerning CAN bus that Bosch invented is unjust.
Just as an example, Ecumaster gives you the ability to setup every CAN parameter via USB port with their free software. It takes 3 minutes to match their EGT-CAN controller to my Megasquirt 3 Pro, no Google or CAN sniffer necessary. Simplicity at it’s best.
You mentioned that is possible to daisy chain another wb2 to the bus so as to monitor lambda per cylinder. Have you done it with Link ecu? cause i am interested in doing this for a 4 cylinder engine, using internal controler(FurryX) for Lambda 1 on the exhaust, and 2x WB2 for monitoring each cylinder on the headers.
Personally I have not tried to daisy chain Haltech WB2 with a Link ECU. Being we mostly work on V6 and V8 two Lambda Sensors are usually enough for most people.
Quick question can you use a WB2 but only use one of the lamda's as i have a 1uz but have decided to go turbo so only require 1 now. Dont really want to get rid and then buy the single. Thank you in advance
Hey Jimbob
That should be fine. You just need to setup Lambda 1 and put in the lambda settings that it is 1 Bank rather then 2. Then only plug in 1 of the Lambda Sensors
Don't you have to swap the wires around because Link Can Hi is Can Lo on the Haltech setup?
Hello yes that is correct. I normally swap the wires around on the Haltech Side. To keep the CAN Connector Link based if you add anything else to the CANBus.
hey can you do this and then put a ic7 dash using the same can bus
Hi team great info, running storm g4x and strada dash on 1uzfe vvti , my question is, can you just tap into can wires from ecu to dash for can lambda?
Hello Brandon
Yeah as long as all the items on the CAN Bus are communicating at the same speed and that any CAN ID's are not going to clash then you are fine.
Also remember that you can have multiple devices an a single CAN Bus but you must fit terminating resistors at each end. This will determine which items go where. So if your ECU and your dash have built in terminating resistors then the CAN Lambda need to go in the middle between the two devices.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement Hi thanks for the information. if we use the vehicles can bus to attach some thing at a different speed. Shouldn't the cars gateway take care of the speed difference?
Hello Midnight I'm afraid not the devices don't have the ability to change the speed of the CAN bus. If you look at a vehicle's canbus they usually run at 250 or 500kbits and if you want to connect say a Link Lambda then that will communicate at 1mbps. If you tried to connect all 3 on the same bus then it won't read. Usually on vehicle CAN bus systems you don't have the ability to change the speed.
hi im trying to install a canlamda on my g4+ and cant get the calibration(link can) for lamda 1, do you have any tips?
Hello if you are using the CAN Lambda then there should be no calibration. You just need to select CAN Lambda from the option on your Lambda Input.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement it dosen't show up under the options for lambda 1
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phoenix can you makea video and teach us how to establish and understand INJECTOR DEAD TIMES and how they effect air fuel ratio and tuniung im so lost on this subject
Hello Rebwar08 what I can do for you is give you links to some video's that go into the subject in great details for you so you can get info from various reputable sources.
ua-cam.com/video/Id7zc4NjQfE/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/0m-THF8Ouak/v-deo.html
I would also advise if you want to get into great depth on the subject is to enrol on a course with HPAcademy or Evans Performance academy where they will go into great detail on the subject for you.
@@PhoenixEngineManagement thank you so much