Which one should you choose? 992 Porsche 911 Carrera v. 718 Porsche Cayman GT4

[@christianharrison4448]

I now own a 2022 GT4. It’s exactly what I wanted out of a weekend car.
If you can only have one car and want a sports car, get a 911. If you have the luxury of owning more than one vehicle get the GT4 as your fun car. You won’t be disappointed.

[@carcaveofficial]

That is a good point, as a stand alone car, the GT4 would be a tough sell. But if you do have another car, any other car, the GT4 is the way to go

[@MW_SE]

I agree. One car - get the 911; another daily - get the 718. Myself I do have another daily so I chose the Cayman GTS (same engine as the GT4) with PDK as I wanted a more street focused car (I only take it to the track a couple of times a year). It's such a great drive that I actually use it as a daily when I don't do long drives or need to bring more than one passenger. Also, this will be the last petrol 718 (the next model due in two years will be all-electric), so I plan to keep it for a long time.
My only laments: Being a bit of a speed nut (in terms of acceleration, not top speed), I think it's a wee bit low on power, but then APR has a fix for that (their ECU software upgrade raises the power to 460 HP/470 NM), and I also think it could have a slightly more direct steering response to improve the steering wheel feedback even further. A third issue is the annoying "ticking" emanating from this engine (I've read somewhere that it comes from the piezo injectors?), a sound that I personally associate with something being broken in the engine...
Apart from these three concerns, there's absolutely nothing to complain about!

[@neilturner6749]

@@MW_SETotally agree - if you want something a little more exciting than a base 911 as a daily and don’t need kiddie seats in the rear, save yourself 20k and get a 718 GTS not a GT4 or Spyder - same performance and noise but with a comfort mode to soften off the hard edges.

[@extremeencounter7458]

What do you do for a living, if I might ask?

[@scottmesenbrink93]

I own a 982 GT4 with a 6MT and a 992 C4S and I completely agree with the presenter’s sentiments. The GT4 is a lot more fun but if I have a lot of places to go I’m reaching for the C4S keys. It’s a lot more comfortable to run errands in. The GT4 is more fun but a pain to run to multiple places. If I need to go out for a fun drive I’m grabbing the GT4 keys. If you could only have one car then the 992 for sure. If you have a spare car then the GT4 all day long.

[@carcaveofficial]

Comments like this help me feel less lonely lol.

[@saramolet3614]

Theirs no way you can afford both of these cars man stop lying

[@carcaveofficial]

He has both. We are best friends, have coffee every Thursday at that one place. He drives the GT4, I drive the C4S. It's all legit.

[@peterauge1274]

@@saramolet3614 There are many people who can afford such cars - and much, much more. Don‘t say they (we) are lying just because YOU cannot afford them.

[@nebeachbum]

Having this debate now; exactly the same price. Not tracking as much as I used to.

[@4liter]

718 Spyder owner here, 6MT with buckets. Swapped from a 911 S order and don’t regret it for a second. Better brakes, better suspension, more purist motor, etc. 911 S is a little more torquey but less linear.
It’s 100% not a daily, but as you observed, hell of a lot more fun for the same money.

[@carcaveofficial]

The Porsche 718 Spyder is on my list for my next car....unfortunately for me, fortunately for you, they are only getting more expensive..

[@4liter]

@@carcaveofficial it’s definitely worth it and thankfully most examples are in like new condition.
Private party is the way to go on these if you want one close to its original msrp. Dealers are trying to make adm a second time 🫠

[@carcaveofficial]

Dealer prices on second hand Porsche's are unreasonable to put it kindly. There are 2016 Spyder's going for $130k+, which had an original MSRP in the 80's. Insane.

[@4liter]

@@carcaveofficial yep and it doesn’t seem to be slowing down. Local dealers TRADE offers on mine are right around sticker. Nuts!

[@peterauge1274]

Owning both, a 982 GT4 (but different from the one in the video with Clubsport package) and a 992 (but as GTS) I can 100% confirm your statements in this comparison. The 911 is a daily who can do sports performance if requested and the GT4 is a pure sports car for the weekend and the track which can do daily tasks if you really want it but that´s not what it´s made for. As you commented that the GT4 is the „smaller“ car. Fully agree on the impression but in fact, the 718 is just minimal smaller than the 911 - the 992 911 just looks fat 😊 I love both cars. If you need to decide for one, I recommend a test drive and to base the decision on the purpose of the car: daily (911) or pure entertainment (GT4). PS: I get more „thumbs up“ from people on the street in the GT4 - just in case that‘s important for the decision making 😂 Thanks for this good video ❤

[@carcaveofficial]

Thanks for the comment! Always great to get feedback from people that own these cars. Also, yes, driving the GT4 definitely brought on more attention

[@saramolet3614]

Stop lying

[@peterauge1274]

@@saramolet3614 Lying on what - on the cars I have ? I do have a white 2020 982 GT4 and a brand new 992 GTS. Also a BMW X5 45e as daily and my wife has a Audi Q3. What‘s your problem, why should I lie on this ?

[@takkr1979]

i recently bought a 718 gt4 for a weekend car. Just simply love every minute driving it... was considering 911T (similar philosophy but turbo engine) but finally decided to take the GT4, more hardcore, more focused, thrilling experience

[@carcaveofficial]

As a weekend car, for someone that just wants to enjoy the joy the driving, the GT4 is tough to beat…

[@peterauge1274]

You did everything right if you want a pure weekend car !

[@K1dPhresh1]

Personally I’m picking the GT4 because my Porsche wouldn’t be my daily driver. See I want the raw essence of the GT4. I can understand the 911 as a daily, sure. I get the argument in either direction. Well presented, thoughtful video. Keep them coming!!

[@carcaveofficial]

I would choose the same, but you are right, as a daily driver, I am not sure if I would actually for the GT4 over the 911.
Thanks for watching mate!

[@roadrash76]

The 911 was my dream car since the 80s. So when I could finally afford a Porsche 911, I got one. The Cayman is a great choice too, but it was not my dream car.

[@carcaveofficial]

You aren't alone in that!

[@bozukbeyin]

I own a 718 GTS 4.0 and I believe it might be the best of both worlds. You can do a track day at the weekend and go for a 5 day, 2200 mile road trip in the week and it'll never disappoint. Just yesterday I drove my mum (65) back home from her holidays. It was a 440 miles (~6 hours) drive and she was complimenting about how comfortable the car is! The subtle looks of the GTS in comparison to GT4 is also much preferable for a daily IMO.

[@carcaveofficial]

The comfort factor on the Boxster / Cayman is a huge plus for the very reason you mentioned. My mum being comfortable in the car was a big deal for me, and in the Boxster, she is perfectly happy.

[@sarge27271]

1st thing: You can easily get a base Carrera. Not sure you'll easily get an allocat6ion for a GT4.

[@carcaveofficial]

That’s a good point, and unfortunately, it might become even harder soon now that they don’t make it anymore..

[@trigganometry168]

If you want a sports car then Cayman if you want a grand tourer that’s better looking then 911. I choose a GTS Cayman 4.0 and I think it’s amazing and more then I could ever want.

[@carcaveofficial]

You are not the first one to bring up the Cayman GTS, that may be the perfect middle ground between the two

[@jaketoko8695]

First time watching one of your videos. Great job! Great production quality and interesting topic. Keep it up, I hope to see your channel grow exponentially!

[@carcaveofficial]

Thank you so much! Glad you liked the content!

[@Cars-ne6pn]

I have a 911 Targa 4S (992) with a manual and a 718 Spyder. You have done an excellent job of comparing the 911 to the 718. My wife loves the 911 and won't ride in the Spyder.

[@carcaveofficial]

Kind of you to say, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@chrisharris4223]

718 Spyder my dream car congratulations. I have a 718 Cayman GTS 4 which I love but I would love the Spyder for the summer 👍

[@Seaward1224]

I sold my 911 997 turbo cabriolet for a 718 982 spyder. There is no comparison. The 911 drives you. You drive the Spyder. It glorious and I have zero regrets after 2 years of owning the spyder.

[@carcaveofficial]

That's a great way of saying it, one drives you, you drive the other. Thanks for sharing!

[@walkinonkeep]

And then there is... GTS 4.0 where you can switch the dial options between: comfort, GT4 mode (sport) and GT4 sport (sport plus), a little softer suspension and flying under the radar looks. And also 4.0 caymans and boxters are more 911 than the 992 carrera itself. Those models actually use much more parts of previous 911 than the new one which is tech packed (and software bugs all of the time). So 4.0 models have the "porsche 911 soul" people crave for. The new one is just not it.

[@carcaveofficial]

The GTS is the sweet spot…might be a future video!

[@unclewilbur8976]

@@carcaveofficial
Please tell what color the 718 is. I really like it!!!

[@carcaveofficial]

The GT4 was Gentian Blue

[@chrisharris4223]

I have a 718 GTS 4 (Cayman), it is awesome and I think it’s best of both worlds. GT4 is fantastic don’t get me wrong but quite bold looks with the huge wing and a little hardcore for everyday use. In normal mode the GTS is very easy to live with everyday (but yes quite loud)

[@Jacques13able]

i remember that poil. i voted gt4, and also couldnt believe it was a 50/50 vote at that time.

[@carcaveofficial]

It was a surprise to me, the odds of getting 50/50 is pretty nuts.
Thanks for voting btw!

[@lolpaladins]

GTS 4.0 is my fun car that I can also daily drive 7 months out of the year. I drive a macan for those 5 months of the year that suck. Macan S with air suspension is an AMAZING comfortable daily driver, fairly nice in luxury with an upgraded interior option, with ACC for when you need to sit in traffic... meanwhile, the gts 4.0 needs to be manual... give yourself options.

[@carcaveofficial]

Options are important, you seem to have the perfect set of driver's cars!
Thanks for watching and sharing!

[@Dragobrath]

I had GTS 4.0 for almost a year now and I can say that I am aiming to upgrade to 992 4S within next couple of years. As much as I love Cayman, it's getting a bit too much of a car when it's your only car, and you have to drive it every day. RWD becomes problematic in winter after several days of heavy snowfall. 4.0 takes about 25-30 minutes to get to operating temperature, so I can't take short drives, and often have to do some roundtrips just to take care of the engine. Roadtrips over 2 hours are a bit tiring. Usually I listen to podcasts when I drive long distance, and I have to crank the volume way up to be able to hear it well. There are some significant tech issues as well, like the car not picking up the phone for carplay until you restart PCM, which is severely annoying for a daily vehicle.
Overall I am absolutely in love with it, I really-really like daily driving it. Just... sometimes I wish I had another car just for that day when I am not in the mood, or when it's snowing, or when I need to do a very short trip. Or when I need to visit my parents who live 2 hours away. But I cannot justify owning two cars when I am living alone, and I cannot imagine myself driving anything other than Porsche. So I think 911 is the way to go.

[@carcaveofficial]

I love my Boxster, but I would not want to daily drive it. I could, but it wouldn't be my first choice. Thank you for sharing, it helps give viewers a new perspective from someone with much more hands on experience!

[@peterauge1274]

Agree on the engine sound (noise). The Bose sound system in my GT4 was simply a waste of money as the engine right behind you is that loud that you don‘t hear the sound system anyway, especially on longer distance drives here in Germany on the Autobahn. This is not a complaint - the engine sound is great !!! It´s just a recommendation to save the money for the sound system as it is useless 😂

[@carcaveofficial]

I think I understand what you mean, but I am not sure. I might have to come to Germany, and test a GT4 on the Autobahn myself to experience it first hand. For science of course.

[@fer1306]

Do not think about it too much just buy another porsche next to it. I have a go to work dd car, a high hp weekend car and a dedicated but road legal track car. Never regret having more for each purposes.

[@GK-se7vk]

Proud owner of a 992, 911 Carrera S. Divine!!

[@carcaveofficial]

Divine is a great word for it!

[@mAthXjAzz]

For me this is a no brainer. Gt4 even daily.

[@u.a.nugroho]

Better external looks, but not the dashboard, and it is the one you see it driving.. so I prefer 911

[@security_threat]

Depends on your local roads, imo. I had a 981 GT4 and the suspension was fine-ish but it was really the intense road noise. You cannot carry on a conversation in the car 🗣️. Perhaps that’s a feature?!

[@unclewilbur8976]

I liked the video so much that I subscribed. I hope there is plenty of Porsche content because that’s my obsession! 😊

[@carcaveofficial]

There will definitely be a lot of Porsche content! Welcome to the channel and thank you for the support!

[@leanderscott527]

I currently drive the m3 g80 manual with carbon buckets. My next car will be the 911s 992 manual. It's the sweet spot

[@carcaveofficial]

Good choice! Have you thought about color?
Thanks for watching!

[@diamondmidnightgardener]

hahahaha.... yes, I've spent way too much time on configurators building the ultimate car.... great vid.... subbed!

[@carcaveofficial]

Configurators aren't for people ordering, they are for people that dream to order one day lol.
Thanks for the support mate!

[@Redducati1199]

Sold my 911 and jumped in to a GT4, I liked my 911but I love my GT4

[@carcaveofficial]

Tough not to love a GT4, to date I haven't met anyone that has a GT4 that isn't infatuated by it.

[@robertgregory1927]

I daily my 992 Carrera S Cab Manual but also have the FOMO.

[@BrickHub]

Yep the GT4 just finished production for this generation.

[@carcaveofficial]

Which is unfortunate…

[@coranora9758]

The GT4 is a great track car/weekend car, but for daily driving, the 911 is probably better.

[@carcaveofficial]

Agreed!

[@NZotyoka81]

I’m so into 911 i couldn’t choose other models.

[@carcaveofficial]

Can't go wrong either way!

[@992TurboS.]

I’ve already made my choice
992 Turbo S .

[@carcaveofficial]

One heck of choice mate, congrats!

[@timmusick9875]

Very nice work. Interesting and valid comparison.

[@carcaveofficial]

Much appreciated, glad you enjoyed the video!

[@donaldmattingley4867]

Just went through same comparison and had exactly same conclusion. Nice video!

[@carcaveofficial]

Thanks mate!

[@bak2mb]

ive driven both..a GTS Cayman...ended with a base 991.2 i dont track so its enough for me👌

[@carcaveofficial]

Even on track, it’s brilliant, the GT4 is just a bit more focused.
Congrats on the 911!

[@bak2mb]

@@carcaveofficial Thank You! best car ive had 😄👍

[@fredc9655]

911 for me, better all around sport car than GT4 and it's a 911, only i wish they put a NA flat six back into a base Carrera.

[@carcaveofficial]

Don’t we all…

[@kebian555]

I own a 992 Carrera GTS. Love it. Wouldn't a 911 GT3 be a better comparison to a 718 GT4? They're both naturally aspirated 4 litre engines.

[@carcaveofficial]

That would be a great comparison as well. My primary criteria for this comparison was pricing, but there are many other comparisons on the list for future videos!

[@victorfornari6488]

Gt4 all day

[@curtdragon]

This is almost my question. Just 911 T as I want carbon seats and manual vs Cayman GTS 4.0

[@carcaveofficial]

That is a tough one, the 911T and GTS 4.0 are two brilliant cars, and in my opinion, sort of fit in the same market. At the end of the day, I would say drive them both and see which one you like more!

[@curtdragon]

@@carcaveofficial yes I need to do that

[@Ok_nick]

Great video!

[@carcaveofficial]

Thanks mate!

[@vikd4292]

they should compare 4.0 to carrera T.

[@carcaveofficial]

4.0L to the Carrera T would be an interesting comparison too!

[@jdev232]

Wtf!??😂😂😂 the video and the comments didn't help at all! The 911 had been my "dream car" since the 80s as a young teen. I like to drive fast, spirited, but not drag race. Im now more confused, i get what you all say in reference to 911, only car, cayman extra car. Problem is, i like rowing gears, 911 also has that option, AND we just bought an 18 jaguar f-type R dynamic awd. Paddle shifting is ok, had never done before, but its not a clutch and shifter...idk...you all are hard selling that gt4 tho..😂😂😂 damn it!

[@carcaveofficial]

If you have the Jag with the paddles, get the GT4. Problem solved!

[@amac8487]

The problem is … so many of the ones who are claiming they have an opinion have never driven both , nor could likely afford either one. “ yeah, the Bugatti Veyron is stupid ….I don’t like the wheels…”. Lol. Basically the same premise.

[@carcaveofficial]

I think everyone can have an opinion for sure, but actually getting behind the wheel lends a new perspective. For example, a 911 seems overpriced on paper for its performance, but when you drive it...it starts to make sense.

[@amac8487]

Exactly. Or have you seen the videos of the walk around a during the production of these things? Insane! It makes you realize , oh… so that’s why these things are 100k….

[@carcaveofficial]

I have seen those, it gives a greater appreciation for the brand. I feel that anyone that thinks Porsche is too expensive, simply doesn't fully understand the brand.

[@manofsesame3024]

You can easily go to a Porsche dealership to test drive a Carrera for 15 minutes without paying anything, but they probably don’t have any demo GT4 in their lot for test drive.

[@bitcoinhorizon]

My God this was good

[@carcaveofficial]

The cars or the video? Please choose the latter lol

[@GracelessTarnished]

911 all day. But then again i dont go to the track. And i would get the S simply for the manual.

[@carcaveofficial]

Everyone's purpose for the cars will be different, as an all around-er the 911 can't be beat!

[@jonfrench7133]

911 all day would have been the right response 5 years ago

[@carcaveofficial]

It can still be the right response today....

[@thehrschannel4784]

Glad I watched this as this is my exact dilemma I'm having now so any thoughts appreciated....
My heart wants the GT4 it's the car I've always dreamt of but my head and the wife want me to have a 911 (992) probable the GTS because I do have children and although it's tight in the back of the 911 it does mean we can all go out as a family...
Honestly I'm stuck I just don't know what to do...

[@carcaveofficial]

Well...for GTS money, you can almost get a base 911 and a GT4....

[@thehrschannel4784]

@@carcaveofficial in the UK not to sure but worth looking into... the GT4 sits around £80k mark base model Carrera around the same in a 992 and the GTS is around £120k. I have the funds available for the GT4 but an owner of multiple super cars I know said maybe it would be best to keep money in the bank go with the GTS 992 keep for 5 years and it wouldn't devalue too much if at all especially if the right spec is bought... it's definitely a dilemma

[@carcaveofficial]

Whether you go with the GTS or the GT4, I think your money is going to be safe in either car.

[@aviator-kn8zq]

Carrera . easy.

[@carcaveofficial]

Not a bad choice, but then again are there any bad choices here?

[@extremeencounter7458]

All I know is, the cayman in Assetto Corsa is way more stable at high speed hard cornering than the 911

[@carcaveofficial]

Good to know! Thanks for chiming in mate!

[@morby1296]

What is the difference between a gt3, gt4 and a gtr?
I’m new to cars😅

[@carcaveofficial]

GT3 is based on the 911 which is rear engined, the GT4 is based on the Cayman platform which is mid engined, and the GTR is a full blown racecar based on the 911 and isn't street legal at all

[@morby1296]

@@carcaveofficial thanks bro

[@carcaveofficial]

My pleasure mate

[@khoimavlogs5161]

I will take 992 T in manual over these 2 cars

[@carcaveofficial]

I do love a Porsche T car...

[@rikaguilera2]

Two Completely different animals. The base 911 is a touring car now. Soft, BIG and fits its niche perfectly. The GT4 is a GT car and it's proper comparison is at the very least a GTS 911. I would take the GT4 over even a GT3 to be honest. The two compared are just not in the same category or thought.

[@carcaveofficial]

See, I agree with you that the 911 is more of a grand tourer now, but the GTS costs far too much to be compared to the GT4. I think for this comparison, price point was the leading factor. You have the money for one, which would you choose, and obviously is comes down to an undefinable number of factors, but it was an excuse to do more Porsche content so why not!
Thanks for watching and sharing your input though mate 🤙

[@hbullock]

It’s ALMOST perfect…it’s not a spyder. ;)

[@carcaveofficial]

I am a sucker for a vert!

[@mattyp3119]

Actually the s is closer to price than the base...

[@carcaveofficial]

Eh..not really....
The GT4 is around $100K, and the S is $131K.

[@spikes20]

Had the 911 as a loaner and was disappointed, steering feel so much better in the GT4 and responsiveness of the engine….and no comparison on looks either…base 911 looks boring at the price point

[@carcaveofficial]

I would say they are made for a different purpose, the GT4 is pretty specialized.

[@AGC828]

If it's the first Porsche I'd go didn't the 911 as that's the product line you think of... AG's to be frank.. Party off why anyone buys a Porsche is for "pride of ownership".. status.. To tell people you MADE IT out have wealthy parents..

[@jonfrench7133]

A base 992 gets you the cache but it’s not the enthusiasts choice

[@carcaveofficial]

I agree, the GT4 is more of a driver's choice for sure.

[@davidsean290]

This choice does not exist in real life for a first time Porsche buyer. You wont ever get an allocation for the GT4 unless you already have a “ relationship”with the dealer. You however have an allocation shot with the base 911 if you ask really nice and be patient. I waited for a 718 spyder allocation for 18mo no luck. I switch my ask to 911T got the allocation in 1 mo. That was my choice “settle” for the turbo charge more expensive 911T or no Porsche. Which one do you think I pick?

[@carcaveofficial]

That is a point I didn't really touch on in the video, but you are right. Getting a GT4 is harder than a 911, undoubtedly. The 911T btw, was the first 911 I was able to drive on the road. Brilliant car!

[@davidsean290]

@@carcaveofficial lol that was my dad's comment using my UA-cam account cause I have premium.
Anyhoo, here's him and his proud Porsche 911 Carerra T (992)
ua-cam.com/video/KGTaufLplvg/v-deo.htmlsi=awsbyryOmHLCreHB

[@carcaveofficial]

Beautiful spec, I am a sucker for the model designation on the doors!

[@winkstorm]

The 992 can do an easy software ECU tune, it will smoke the GT4 on acceleration. If NA is that awesome, then why Porsche made the Turbo S and GT2RS? It’s simple physics.

[@Vermonstered]

Said someone who doesn't know how to drive and only has a lead foot. No one who actually drives cars where GT PCars are designed to be used needs to be told why they're amazing and why you'd have one over a Carrera and a turbo S.

[@carcaveofficial]

I think the NA is a brilliant platform, as is the turbo platform. It’s awesome for the sensations, the noise, the vibration, the linear acceleration. The turbo is nice and torque, gives insane amounts of power, different driving dynamics. I think it comes down to personal preference, there are pros and cons to both

[@lesedikosie896]

For the money, the Cayman GT4's interior is total garbage😏

[@alijahdessasure4521]

Fr tho

[@andresmattos7541]

None both horribly overpriced

[@carcaveofficial]

I am going to have to strongly disagree with this comment....overpriced would suggest that they are not worth the money, and they 100% are worth the money. Are they expensive? Yes, but I do not think they are priced out of what they offer.

[@takkr1979]

check the price of the new M2 or the Alpine A110R. Those are also getting very expensive (at least here in europe)

[@carcaveofficial]

Everything is getting ridiculously expensive...