This might sound like sarcasm but I promise you it's not. This here is real art, a group of people rigging up some amps in a garage and playing their fucking hearts out. It's anarchic and conceptual in that way that all good punk is but most importantly it's real, real passion behind every instrument and every song, its art for arts sake, music for Music's sake, experience for experiences sake, and I wish there were more bands/gigs like this now.
Alex Sternberg there irregular sequencing and poly rhythms created a new canvas on which to create music. The equivalent of an artist painting with colors that we have never seen before. True pioneers and innovators (mostly ben).
True. DEP are the kind of artists who knew from the get go that they would never ever break into the mainstream with their abrasive math core sound. They were making music for music's sake knowing full well that they'd be lucky if they could make ends meet with their passion. That's the true artistic spirit. Unlike all the Ed Sheerans whores who were always aiming for the charts.
That would only sound sarcastic to someone who only listens to famous and established acts lol. There are a hundreds of groups of people "rigging up some amps in a garage and playing their fucking hearts out" every day all around the world, you can find so much great music by exploring below the surface, early Dillinger is nowhere near close to being the only band you can say this about
The first time I witnessed DEP was in dec of 1999 in albany NY. They opened for One King Down and Calculating infinity was still a new record. I was 16. I had no idea what the fuck was going on when they were playing. I threw all my money at them and picked up every release they had available on their merch table.
duude how awesome i would love having all that stuff. besides of course those magnificent moments. want a pic with all dillis shit. Aguante la puta madre!
Zach Carlin HAHA same! I saw them with... was it The Locust? I was so confused and that confusion excited me! Here we are years later, I've seen them several times since (Billy's first show at The Barbary, their Union Transfer stop early in the final tour) and was lucky enough to score tickets to the final show at Terminal 5 in NYC!
I've always wondered how this sounds so accurate, while Adam Doll seems to just be falling all over the place. But it's like he never missed a single note. Strange.
It was tough being a band in the late Nineties. Like, you had to clone just the one same guy to have something resembling a half-decently sized audience.
This is fuckin crazy. I grew up right down the street from here. I was probably doing some 2nd grader shit at the time a couple streets away. Now my band records at Kevin’s studio. Weird world.
Ok,, THIS is how they looked when we used to gig together! I guess Ben did Stage right as well? Weird, never saw him overthere. Not in Reading PA. Dimitri used to just point in your face and scream at you like a foot away! My band was similar but a bit more Overcast and Iron Maiden influenced. We all ripped off Converge and Botch however 😅 If only that CD hadn't fallen in the bassist's car....
its kinda funny how Ben says recording calculating infinity was troubling for him in terms of playing (which I'm sure it was), but he also recorded on under the running board as well as played all the guitars on the S/T EP if I'm not mistaken. that stuff sounds really hard too lol
The earliest footage is in my head watching them rehearse in John Fulton's basement. Grew up with these guys in Randolph, NJ. If we only had video on our cell phones. But then again, I think times were better before the internet and cell phones? 🤔
98 Dillinger sounds WAY more like skmethjng from the screamo scene than the metal scene. Like put this show next go Saetia pg99 angel hair etc. and it fits in like way better. They obviously changed their sound a lot by calculating. And then in my opinion completely changed bands with the next album. I think it’s sad they kept the name. Cause 98-2000 Dillinger was a completely different band than 2005 Dillinger
I didn’t scroll down to far in the comments to see if anyone else mentioned this, but isn’t it weird that Ben is the only one not in a white shirt, and he was the only one left from the original members at the end?
Guys ripping their hearts and sweat there and the lamest people around them. If I've seeing this gig that time, I would have been fucking destroying everything.
A lot to process, so much. 1. Looks like their moms washed and iron their clothes before the show. I mean the whiteness! Tide detergent is strong in this video. 2. The cargo shorts, Hahahahaha. I remember how great were those years. You can't find pockets like that nowadays. 3. Probably It was really hard to process the music, specially because, for sure, all these guys in the crowd have the Limp Bizkit album at home. 4. Greg Puciato once was a skinny guy. YOU CAN DO IT!!! 5. Forever nerds musicians
Dillinger never wanted to be "math core". Ben doesn't really know theory or even purposely write stuff "mathy". They put out stuff they wanted to hear that no one was playing and have consistently done that every EP and album release. They are the epitome of the idea of punk, unpredictable, energetic, rude, diy as fuck.
Early on violent energy! But sadly, like most all other grindcore bands got used to producers and management changing their style to appease the masses.
pretty sure it was always them writing the music through all of the stylistic changes, not on the initiative of 'producers and management'. I sometimes went through doubtful periods as to whether they were keeping their 'violent energy', etc, but I think it's foolish to think that at this point. they make amazing music and stuff have more brutality in a show than most bands around these days.
haha everyone in this video looks like the same guy
Lol... Why is this not the top comment?
thats how we did it in the 9 8 bro!
lololol amazing
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1:09 rare moment of a music nerd first discovering Dillinger’s brilliant music complexity and vibing with it. this moment was amazingly caught on tape
SovietWomble caught on tape (1998)
pretty sure its one of the members from You and I
Fantano before fantano
@@christianjunegregorio3053 he actually used to follow me
@@SuffocateMe nobody cares
my left ear really enjoys this
This might sound like sarcasm but I promise you it's not. This here is real art, a group of people rigging up some amps in a garage and playing their fucking hearts out. It's anarchic and conceptual in that way that all good punk is but most importantly it's real, real passion behind every instrument and every song, its art for arts sake, music for Music's sake, experience for experiences sake, and I wish there were more bands/gigs like this now.
Me too, dude. Me too.
Alex Sternberg there irregular sequencing and poly rhythms created a new canvas on which to create music. The equivalent of an artist painting with colors that we have never seen before. True pioneers and innovators (mostly ben).
It doesn't sound sarcastic at all. I imagine anyone who is a fan of this band, even a casual fan, knows exactly what you mean.
True. DEP are the kind of artists who knew from the get go that they would never ever break into the mainstream with their abrasive math core sound. They were making music for music's sake knowing full well that they'd be lucky if they could make ends meet with their passion. That's the true artistic spirit. Unlike all the Ed Sheerans whores who were always aiming for the charts.
That would only sound sarcastic to someone who only listens to famous and established acts lol. There are a hundreds of groups of people "rigging up some amps in a garage and playing their fucking hearts out" every day all around the world, you can find so much great music by exploring below the surface, early Dillinger is nowhere near close to being the only band you can say this about
The first time I witnessed DEP was in dec of 1999 in albany NY. They opened for One King Down and Calculating infinity was still a new record. I was 16. I had no idea what the fuck was going on when they were playing. I threw all my money at them and picked up every release they had available on their merch table.
You smart man!
duude how awesome i would love having all that stuff. besides of course those magnificent moments.
want a pic with all dillis shit.
Aguante la puta madre!
Zach Carlin HAHA same! I saw them with... was it The Locust? I was so confused and that confusion excited me! Here we are years later, I've seen them several times since (Billy's first show at The Barbary, their Union Transfer stop early in the final tour) and was lucky enough to score tickets to the final show at Terminal 5 in NYC!
Same ! I saw them headline in 2000 tiny club -I couldn’t understand a single note but the chaos convinced me I would be a fool to not buy the CD
00:00 mullet burden
02:18 cleopatra's sling
05:18 monticello
08:36 sandbox magician
Thanks for this.
Thanks.
Cheers 😀
So happy to see Monticello
The self titled EP has so many underrated songs on it
I love how the crowd doesn’t know how to react. That was Dillinger’s goal
This warms my heart with the holiday spirit.
yessssssss dude
And fills my spirit with holiday warmth!
Every drummer in the 90’s had that Pearl rack mount system.
Was at this show. This garage and the Stalag 13 were my favorite places I’ve seen Dillinger play over their career. Early Dillinger is my favorite.
This was the DEP I remember, Demitri and Adam still in the band. Good times playing with them.
Robb Noxious you played?!
Isaac dissonance when I was in Benümb we were lucky enuff to have played with these guys on both coasts.
Robb Noxious holy fuck yeah!!!
@@wickedsandbox great y
What did u play in Benumb
I've always wondered how this sounds so accurate, while Adam Doll seems to just be falling all over the place.
But it's like he never missed a single note. Strange.
Adam Sandler is a great guitarist
Who?
lol almost forgot our obsession with plain white shirts in the 90's.
1:08
crazy to think by the end only one of these guys was left
Which one
Ben
True,all others died on the mathcore battlefield
@@TheCivildecay 4 years later the whole left side of the stage was gone
@@TheCivildecay apparently he's really unpleasant and hard to work with
but my right ear...
yep
sad
Change audio to mono
RIP headphones abusers
1 way Monster speaker clutch rn. crisp grind
It was tough being a band in the late Nineties. Like, you had to clone just the one same guy to have something resembling a half-decently sized audience.
Big props to my main dude at 1:08 always supporting the squad
0:14 a guy in red t-shirt is BEN?
This is fuckin crazy. I grew up right down the street from here. I was probably doing some 2nd grader shit at the time a couple streets away. Now my band records at Kevin’s studio. Weird world.
I pass by this place every day on the way to work (on County Line Rd). Kinda surreal to know it hosted a DIY hardcore show (or two) once upon a time.
I guess at that time you weren't cool in PA if you didn't rock a white tee with green cargo shorts. lol
I still wear the fuck combo c
i thank universe every day for this band and for this video
I feel bad for there bass player Adam Doll, he was such a talent back then before he got in a car accident
Went to HS with Doll, Fulton and Pennie. I remember jamming with them in like 9th grade and they were stupidly beyond anything I could keep up with.
@@communityprepper6153 Wow you were extremely lucky
I had no idea Adam Sandler used to play in this band.
Who?!
Ok,, THIS is how they looked when we used to gig together! I guess Ben did Stage right as well? Weird, never saw him overthere. Not in Reading PA. Dimitri used to just point in your face and scream at you like a foot away! My band was similar but a bit more Overcast and Iron Maiden influenced. We all ripped off Converge and Botch however 😅
If only that CD hadn't fallen in the bassist's car....
This was the best ages for DEP love this music late 90s
their current bassist, Liam Wilson appears @ 1:42.
Poverty Gamer but thats the guitarist steve willmens or someshit
ben weinman
The bassist that appears there is the original lineup Adam Doll
Way ahead of their time! Unmatched by any!
Ben with the Jerry Seinfeld look
Who is Jerry Seinfeld?!?
Cheers from England 👍
its kinda funny how Ben says recording calculating infinity was troubling for him in terms of playing (which I'm sure it was), but he also recorded on under the running board as well as played all the guitars on the S/T EP if I'm not mistaken. that stuff sounds really hard too lol
you and i, waifle and dep sounds like a kick ass show! would be amazing to see any of those bands live in person
fabulous video - thanks so much for the upload. Run the audio through soundflower into audacity or logic for a mono effect
awesome video!!! what a Xmas gift!!!! :)
My left ear is having fun and my eyes are becoming snowblind by all those white shirts
Dimitri "The Duckwalk" Minakakis
Goddamn, what a sick lineup at that show.
history right there
Witness the birthing of a true legend.
Insane
Wow! This must be the earliest footage of them? Pretty historic
The earliest footage is in my head watching them rehearse in John Fulton's basement. Grew up with these guys in Randolph, NJ. If we only had video on our cell phones. But then again, I think times were better before the internet and cell phones? 🤔
K.T.M.W.Q though, upload that gem!
dude do you also have the You & I set???
Nice!
The Fulton version.
Do I spot Alexander T?
98 Dillinger sounds WAY more like skmethjng from the screamo scene than the metal scene.
Like put this show next go Saetia pg99 angel hair etc. and it fits in like way better.
They obviously changed their sound a lot by calculating. And then in my opinion completely changed bands with the next album. I think it’s sad they kept the name. Cause 98-2000 Dillinger was a completely different band than 2005 Dillinger
Yeah they were never a metal band though, they came from the hardcore scene
1:10 dude this nuts wtf where i am .iguess digg it....
Thank you for posting this. Fucking adore DEP 😍
Badass!!!!!!!
Badass!
HOLY SHEEEETTT!!!!!
good ole bucks county
whoahhhh they're playing cleopatra's sling live
Little Ben is so cute and smol
Glad to know that Adam and Dimitri still look pretty much the same
Dimitri doesn’t
I didn’t scroll down to far in the comments to see if anyone else mentioned this, but isn’t it weird that Ben is the only one not in a white shirt, and he was the only one left from the original members at the end?
Foreshadowing
FUCKING WARMINSTER, ahahahahaha. chalfont & warminster have held some gnarly bands in the 90s. lansdale & doylestown aswell...
Ben looks like the 9th grader who tutored the football captain in algebra here.
The good times when Chris Pennie was the center of the storm! Loved them to their last day - but they lost a lung when he left!
Original Line up! Wow this is Awesome footage
The shoes tho
racist
😂
Ben, Dimitri, Chris, Adam and Derek Brantley right?
My god the nineties.
Guys ripping their hearts and sweat there and the lamest people around them.
If I've seeing this gig that time, I would have been fucking destroying everything.
back when the music was ahead of the fashion. innocent times.
do you have the you & i set
this bass player has the greatest moves of ANY band history - prove me wrong
Ben Weinman playing an Ibanez? This is great footage.
Probably an influence from John Fulton. Grew up with these guys and Fulton was an Ibanez guy for years.
Love how they walk around in their jock clothes not giving a damn about their looks.
This is the style of 98 hardcore. Not jock clothes. Just running shoes.
Aquí por Amarilis 😰
hahaha they finish and everybody is like 'should i clap? was that a song? wtf?'
they look like children here, especially Ben.
That 90s style of dress though
Does anyone know the address? My friend is a big Dillinger fan who lives in Warminster PA
David Wagner no idea the address, but it was one of the industrial parks off Jacksonville road in Ivyland.
I guess the red shirt would be Ben?
Oh young ben 0:50
ben weinman looks like ben afleck here
Lord Gorgeous shit, i was meant to reply to the person who asked who's the personnel
Oh haha, my bad!
I've heard Jerry Seinfeld, Ben Affleck, and Adam Sandler
Is Ben wearing Dad shoes?
My right ear is jelly
Songlist?
above.
dude's face at 1:10 ... was the face of a new generation about to be exposed to TDEP.
Awesome-ish
Great video, Who the fck is Adam Sandler!?
Cheers from England and a TDEP Fan😀
⭐🌟💥
😎👌
Does the entire setlist exist?
Most likely not
They say that all white shirt guys look the same.
Who was in the band at this point?
If i'm not mistaken, vox: Dimitri, Guitar1: Ben, Guitar2: John Fulton, Bass: Adam Doll, Drum: Chris
did they all agree to wear white shirts on that day?
We need some Arcane.
Eagles Fan Since Super Bowl 52 acarne is the first name of the band?
@@gabrielgarcia5221 Yes.
1:40 i'm fucking dead
7:50 Dayum.
A lot to process, so much.
1. Looks like their moms washed and iron their clothes before the show. I mean the whiteness! Tide detergent is strong in this video.
2. The cargo shorts, Hahahahaha. I remember how great were those years. You can't find pockets like that nowadays.
3. Probably It was really hard to process the music, specially because, for sure, all these guys in the crowd have the Limp Bizkit album at home.
4. Greg Puciato once was a skinny guy. YOU CAN DO IT!!!
5. Forever nerds musicians
This was their original vocalist Dimitri.
immensi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't even tell which one Ben is
Biff Red Shirt
back when they were still a grindcore band
Dillinger was never a grindcore band. They rose from the hardcore punk scene and transitioned into mathcore.
Dillinger never wanted to be "math core". Ben doesn't really know theory or even purposely write stuff "mathy". They put out stuff they wanted to hear that no one was playing and have consistently done that every EP and album release. They are the epitome of the idea of punk, unpredictable, energetic, rude, diy as fuck.
Shawn Hebert Well said!
Shawn Hebert yeah well, it sounded like grindcore to me and they defined the word grindcore for me. you call it punk, I call blast beats grindcore.
They don't do many blasts...
They all move so weirdly. What is the bass player doing??
Bro, how the fuck did you possibly get here if you don't get it
@@jerusalemsyndrome140 Here’s a funny joke..fuck you.
@@itsMrNoble lmao
@@itsMrNoble they're just into the music
SNEANS
I wouldn't call DEP grindcore
this is what happens whenever 20 white dudes get in a room together
White dudes in white shirts
Early on violent energy! But sadly, like most all other grindcore bands got used to producers and management changing their style to appease the masses.
Kris Davis dillinger is still complex and experimental man ....yeah maybe isnt as violent or abrasive but still unbelievable creative !!
pretty sure it was always them writing the music through all of the stylistic changes, not on the initiative of 'producers and management'. I sometimes went through doubtful periods as to whether they were keeping their 'violent energy', etc, but I think it's foolish to think that at this point. they make amazing music and stuff have more brutality in a show than most bands around these days.
You're accusing them of being sellouts? GTFO of here.
Kris Davis Ben was their own manager
What an idiotic comment
1:17