FLY Your Drone in MORE Places! Cut the red tape with Article 16!
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- Hey everyone! In a recent poll on Geeksvana, we asked how many recreational drone pilots fly under an Article 16 Authorisation. Nearly 50% of those responding stated they had not head of it! So, today we have a explanation of how to fly in more places, closer to people, using Article 16.
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Chapters:
00:00 - 00:24 Simply fly your drone in more places
00:25 - 01:59 What is an Article 16 Authorisation?
02:00 - 02:05 Recreational flights only
02:06 - 02:32 FPVUK.org membership
02:33 - 03:04 Why membership is needed?
03:05 - 03:24 Article 16 Explained
03:25 - 04:47 What are the benefits
04:48 - 05:36 Channel memberships and subscribe?
05:37 - 05:38 Article 16 in congested areas
05:39 - 06:33 Camera drones require direct control input
06:34 - 06:51 Geeksvana Article 16 Quick List
06:52 - 08:23 Summary and final tips
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Great video, a further video showing a risk assessment completion would be beneficial to many drone pilots including myself. (Although I have done a couple where needed)
I think a risk assessment video and discussion will be useful. It will also give everyone a chance to share their thoughts and processes too. I often end up learning more than the audience with that kind of content!
Yes officer I am flying under Article 16. Reply from Plod: Give me the drone and get in the van
Maybe they want information on how to join FPVUK?
Hey Sean, i'd be interested in a deeper dive for the Risk Assessment info. Cheers
Thank you for the update Bro
You are welcome! Thanks for the kind feedback.
Great explanation. Still doing my A2 CofC to add to my armoury and will definitely digest more of your Article 16 video. Cheers
Thank you! Article 16 and A2 is the perfect combo.
Great video, thanks for stating facts not rumours!
Thanks! Appreciate the kind feedback!
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!!
This is good. Makes me less nervous about getting a new drone
That is great news!
Brilliant thank you
Really useful, thank you
Thank you!
Wow thank you for this video i was aware of 16 but was still ify about flying, i have the A2CoC but will be looking into joining a club so i can relax more.
Great stuff as ever.
very handy to know cheers
Very handy thank you for the video.
Would love a video like this about the A2 CoFc and if it is still worth doing it before the changes
Hey Jason! Thank you! We did make a video on the A2, dramatic 'is it dead' title and everything, back when the CAA confirmed no C labels in UK.
I actually find the A2 more useful since the Air 3 has been in my fleet. Mainly because the drone is so much better than the sub 250g drones, it is worth the hassle to meet the separation distances depending on what I am capturing.
Additional benefit of being able to fly sub 500g drone in the A1 airspace with zero separation is also useful for drones like the Avata and Minis with lights on etc.
So, my current thoughts are if you can find a course cheap enough it could be useful for the couple of years left. I am not sure if the CAA will cut them off in 2026 or give the remainder of the 5 years as a benefit of sorts.
Hope this helps. Turned into an essay 😂.
Love a good essay thank you for taking the time.@@Geeksvana
Thank you!
You are welcome. Thanks!
The insurance looks good. Having returned from Norway, it was a surprise to learn that liability insurance for sub 250gram recreational flying is mandatory over there.
Interesting tip: you can get an EASA operators license for free in Spain and use elsewhere in the EU but….. you have to fly your drone in Spain first for it to be valid elsewhere. That’s if I’m reading the EASA regulations correctly?
Most of the flying the members of the Yorkshire Drone Flyers club do is under the BMFA/British Drone Flyers Article 16 Authorisation. We all owe a huge thank you to the BMFA CEO whose work in Europe before Brexit meant the facility for the CAA to be able to issue Article 16 authorisations.
Wave from a BMFA southern club 👋
This is great
I am an FPVUK member I also like the insurance that I get and a flyer ID and operator ID card to show authorities or interested people. Although I don't often use the article 16 authorization because I mainly fly in A3 airspace anyway.
Nice! We love a simple card to hand to people. That is very handy!
insurance - LOL!!
Thanks
Joined as soon as video dropped, and will be doing A2 qualification to really expand my ability to use drones in more locations
Hey Stuart! That is great. Article 16 and A2 is a great combo! Nice work.
Also can you start making "Sean out" T shirts please with geeksvana branding 💪🏻
😂🤣😂 We are about to start the merch up again. I will add it to the list 😎
Use it all the time almost along with my A2cofc
Hey Eric! That is a great mix 👌
Hows things fpv good for my Yuneec h might be buying the air two as well take care @@Geeksvana
Love a bit of article 16 for bando bashing 💪🏻
Perfect!!
Sounds good I shall get it as I have a heavier drone 👍🏻
Great! It is very useful with drones like the Air 3 etc.
I fly FPV so would be more interested in your upcoming video on that, but, whilst a member of FPV UK, I dont make use of OA16. Reason is I fly well away from people anyway, so it makes no difference, and the need of a formal risk assessment is a pain.
Though of course the work of Simon Dale and others in this area is definitely appreciated.
The only way I think it could be useful to me is that under certain defined conditions one should be able to legally manage without a spotter. However Simon Dale felt that was not the intent of the rule - but it is what the wording implies.
Hey Nick! I followed the thread with interest as the wording is interesting. Of course, being an authorisation rather than regulation, Simon is reliant on the CAA explanation/definition a little more.
FPV video is coming soon. It has more focus in terms of explaining safety to newer users and Avata purchasers, etc. So here I mean, the camera drone guys like me picking up FPV and thinking I am an expert in 5 mins. Just cautious as I don't want a video to create a bunch of incidents at parks with Avata drones!
I do use Aritcle 16 in the A3 airspace still for recreational flights as I don't need a risk assessment and the overflight is so handy!
@@Geeksvana well, if anyone comes within 100 yards of where we are, we stop anyway. Especially with dogs. We did lose one to a dog once, it was faster and got there before we did. Got it back in the end.
The 'spotter' point doesn't relate to that, but to flying something like a 65/75mm FPV whoop in a private garden. Depending on the closeness of other properties, of course. One could say, does anyone care what one does with a whoop? It seems the rules do.
Yes please can you do a simple risk assessment for recreation areas in built up areas, putting in what you think is reasonable,also while I'm commenting can you have a look and do a video of what the national security act 2023 means to people in our hobby as their is some confusion weather we are allowed or not. Cheers.Keep them coming.
Risk assessment is a great idea. Will get my one in a publish format and put it up for download. On the Nat Sec Act, we have a video (long one) one the act coming in on the channel. I have an update in terms of what is happening for notifying pilots etc, coming very soon.
Hi it’s a great video I became a member of fpv uk because of this video. I was just wondering if these rules apply to flying fpv as I usually fly fpv that weigh around 650-750g?
Hey! Yes, Article 16 is perfect for FPV flight. Opens up so many more options!
Totally not applicable to me but hey, i smashed the like and watched the whole video so at least UA-cam is happy and I've made you smile today. 👍
Thanks you!! Love my awesome members!
Great video. Thank you. Are all article 16's the same. Does fpvuk and bmfa have the same conditions?
Thanks for the kind feedback! I believe they are the same in terms of permissions. However, I find the FPVUK handbook and guidance is more geared towards individuals out flying, whereas the BMFA is focused a little more on club use.
Im very confused, iv joined FPVuk,
Looking on the Quick Guide(2024)
Can I take of and use my drone from my back garden under the Article 16
This is good and I’m glad it exists but it shouldn’t have to, all of this should be available through the CAA itself, not external organisations. An individual should be able to take an extra online test, prove they have insurance and then get the authorisation themselves.
A structure like we already have for amateur radio would be ideal, giving you the ability to take further tests to get more freedoms.
Something I also don’t like is the lack of coverage of commercial pilots, just about everything seems to specify it is for recreational flights only and there is not much difference between recreational and commercial flights anyway.
It is interesting that this authorisation is recreational only when the new recent changes removed the differential from regulations.
I believe the reason it is via membership orgs is due to the wording of the legislation requiring the CAA to make special provision for the hobby. The numbers of non-member hobbyists will be far higher than all the groups together.
I haven't read through all the comments so apologies if this has already been mentioned. FPVUK membership now includes commercial flying up to an annual income of £15k. Not a huge income but okay if you are just doing an occasional job.
what would i need to fly a DJI Mavic 3 Enterprise for roof inspections commercial buildings like B&Q, The Range, and similar structures in the UK?
do i need a (GVC) or will it be ok with (A2 CofC)
Hi Sean, Ive just passed my A2cofc to fly my Air 3 in more places, but Im also a member of the "Grey Arrows" Im guessing article 16 will be part of their membership too? Or not ?? thanks Jon
Hey Jon! Grey Arrows do not currently hold an Article 16 Authorisation, but you never know in the future. I know they added insurance recently, so perhaps it is something they are looking at.
Congrats on the A2 pass!!
@@Geeksvana thanks Sean for that
Are the beaches around the coast classed as recreational areas?
Does Article 16 limit the allowances for the sub 249g drones, or are the sub 249 rules less stringent?
Sub 250G beats Article 16 every single time! Zero separation and can be flown in all airspace categories without any certification. Some people use Article 16 for just the insurance or the other benefits, it can also help if you attach lights etc and take it just over 250g. There is a sub 250G video linked in the description.
Its hard to keep my Parrot Disco within the confines of a small park lol
I couldn't imagine trying in the park I was flying in for the video 😂.
The comcirn i have around their insurance is do they actually pay out or is it just a means to sell membership..
It is an interesting question and one I have looked into previously. There have been a few claims over the years, particularly with the longer established BMFA, and it does seem the policy works. But I have no data on what happened to pass any of the cost onto the operator etc.
Is the certificate good throughout Europe or just in the UK in England?
Can you use a pre-programmed flight plan under Article 16 so long as manual control can be established through use of a controller if required ?
Hi, I'm new to drones, have a DJI mini 3, would this be needed or benefit? Right now I use drone assist to check where I can fly
Not required for your size of drone. You actually have more freedom ALL the time with sun 250g. Welcome to the hobby!!
Ooooooh, sounds interesting…
It is a simple way to get in the air!
Hi Sean, can commercial pilots get membership for use as a hobby? If so would there be a conflict in the event of an accident between insurers (commercial cover vs the club insurance?
Hi! You absolutely can take membership for when you are flying recreationally. The conflict should not arise, as the policies are very different.
The legislation states that you cannot switch between flight type once you have taken off. So you are unable to use Article 16 to take off and then A2 CofC ones in flight etc. I find it useful to have in the locker!
@@Geeksvana Great thank you for the advice and your channel - it's awesome!
@wephotographanything708 Thanks to regular viewers and comment makers like you! Makes it worthwhile.
Do drone operators have to carry a 30m reel tape measure with them?
How do the authorities prove these distances were exceeded, how do you prove they weren't?
In terms of enforcement, the distances are placed as guidance and to allow people blatantly breaking those distances to be stopped. So it is unlikely you will ever see anyone measuring, and more likely, it will count when someone hits something/someone flying within 5m of people, etc.
Like all aspects of drone flying, it will and is already being abused i’ve heard of people flying in built up areas with heavier drones citing A16, either they dont understand or twist the permission.
Yes, needing to stick to the park or recreational area of a congested zone is so important. Otherwise, it could jeopardise the use of Article 16. I have seen a lot of opinions where people think they can use it in a similar way to the A2 CofC.
The thing with rules is that they only exist when -you- I need them. I think I broke at least 5 laws/rules this morning just testing some toys I'm selling. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think I broke two reading your comment 🤣
Hi sean , really interesting video thanks for, I have covered with " Drone Cover club " insurance . I think this is only public liability insurance .
So the one you are recommending in this video is this a better package for my understanding this also covers article 16 as you mentioned and also public liability insurance would that be correct .. thank you very much ...
P.s i fly Mavic 3 pro & mini 3 pro .
Hey Oscar! Thanks for the kind feedback. It's always great to see a regular viewer! Yes, this would give you Articpe 16 access and the other benefits of FPVUK membership.
@@Geeksvanathanks . I will go and have a look on their webpage now . ❤
I do now . ( through I'm still working my way through the manual provided by them which is still quite confusing , doesn't help on my part being dyslexic 😃) thanks for the info sean ❤ ...
i register the caa through the Large model assosiation do i still need to join this ?
As a member of LMA you get access to Article 16 through them. In fact, they have some excellent specialised permits in place. You can still use it for your camera drone in the way this video describes though.
www.largemodelassociation.com/article-16/
@@Geeksvana cheers appreciated
Article 16 looks like a great progress. Whish Sweden, or EU, will start something like that.
Was out flying my C2 Mavic 3 pro today. Took off 20 meters from a few other people, flew upp a few meters and away.... No risk for anybody. When landing on the "table" next to my friend and I a small child heard the buzzing, saw the drone, and came close. Letting the drone stay some meters up and waiting for the child to get bored and leave, the landing could be done having a safe distance to the child.
Too many of the safety rules looks like being based on the max horisontal speed and the weight of the drone, its impact force, thinking of the drone as a bomber, a projectile. The Mavic 3 pro can travel at 20 m/s horizontally but only 6 m/s when descending, using safe standard settings.
The rules are there but the bottom line is to fly with the result the rules intend to achieve. The rules make things black or white but the reality is everything in between.
Are you allowed to film for your own UA-cam channel using article 16 or is this considered commercial work?
Yes. You can put the footage on your UA-cam channel when flying under Article 16. You are still within the definition. The CAA deem there needs to be a contract, etc.
It would more exclude someone who is carrying out a roof survey, etc. That would not be possible.
Hope this helps.
@@Geeksvana indeed it does
are the laws the same for RC planes?
Hey! Yes, although we focus on drones due to the channel - but the full title of the registration, etc, is The Drone and Model Aircraft Education Scheme. Or DMARES for short.
The basics are the same. Althoufh, if flying under Article 16, RC flying does have more permissions in certain circumstances.
I need to get me a New Drone ! Preferably an Air-3 but my Spirit is so Daunted with all these Regulations , it is not much Fun any more .😟
The Air 3 is an awesome drone! Mixed with Article 16 and A2 CofC, I find it pretty straightforward to fly most places. It can be daunting but I find focusing on the rules for your drone and the type of flight you make most often, makes it more simple.
@@Geeksvana, thanks Sean .
One small thing I need to fully understand, maybe you guys can clear it up: I live in London, the majority of London boroughs have banned flying drones in their parks (recreational area), there is rarely signage but their websites do state this. Now under article 16 could you still fly in the park legally, let’s say taking of from an area (not built up) adjacent to the park?
Yes. Of an area like a park has an actual byelaw, there should be a sign with reference to the byelaw in the corner. It could be that those boroughs are 'enforcing' a policy. You are good to go with Article 16 in my opinion. Is there a particular Borough? I could check if it is a policy or byelaw.
Lewisham Borough. Thanks for this! I know my question is awkward, but my local park is visited by 2 dog walkers a day; it’s mostly empty. It would be great for relaxing by piloting a drone through it. I always travel quite far just to make sure I’m 101% legal.
@vladmaiuga2934 There is a specific byelaw in place for Blackheath Open Space. There is a link to it below from a freedom of information request.
However, there are two interesting parts of it. Firstly, they use an old description of model aircraft, which is not enforceable over quadcopters. It also has a strange weight of 500g to start with. Presumably, this allows for 'toys' to still be flown, etc.
There are no other policies or byelaws seemingly in place for that borough. I am not sure if Blackheath is the only open space?
Either way, in my opinion, so if it was me flying, I would not be concerned that the byelaw was enforceable. If someone from the council approached, I would stop for the day and move on.
This, of course, is not legal advice and an opinion on if I would personally fly there.
Here is the byelaw:
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/restrictions_on_the_use_of_drone/response/1674576/attach/html/2/Blackheath%20confirmed%20byelaws.pdf.html
Thank you very much mate for your efforts and informative videos and also your commitment and contribution to the hobby.
Hi Sean , when am I going to see you Flying Your Birds ??? 😀
I am flying in this very video 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@Geeksvana, yeah ! Noticed it after but didn't bother to delete ! Hahahaaaa 😀
@jeremyboyce1537 We do have some more flight vids on the members section. There is one there showing me and Graham practising his 1000ft flight permission. We don't tend to share flight vids on the main channel as we are primarily a news focused one.
Its a bit of a joke to me that article 16 provides you with significantly less restrictions for recreational use over having an A2 for commercial use. Whats your thoughts on this?
I think the restrictions on Article 16 give a few benefits to the A2. Firstly, you can only use Article 16 for recreational flights. Also, in congested areas, you are confined to locations primarily used for leisure, where the A2 allows flights anywhere.
The main issue is that without the C label system in the UK, the original intention of the A2 CofC is impossible. If we had C2 drones, they could be flown with 5m of uninvolved people. So perhaps the original thought behind the A2 would have given it a lot of advantages.
Of course, now the CAA are likely to recommend allowing C1 label benefits in the UK, that will make A2 completely irrelevant. (Overall, the new CAA proposals remove the A2 airspace anyway).
@@Geeksvana Interesting, where does that leave someone like me, who, is taking their A2 within the next week or so AND has a Mavic 3 Pro (C2) with the intention to use it for commercial work?
Thank you for every thing you do here!
@henjem14 in the UK, the C labels have no value, sadly. All drones are technically legacy drones. So the Mavic 3 Pro would only be able to fly under the 50m legacy part of the A2 Certificate. Frustratingly!
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I thought FPV article 16 allowed up to 25kg drones?
It does, but the separation goes up to 50m over 7.5kg, so we drew the line there for this video as the best mix of benefits and not cause confusion, etc.
Hang on, let me just get my tape measure out while I'm flying....
As with any measurement in authorisation and regulation, it is a guideline. Enforcement will be closer.
Buy yourself a laser range finder
No mention of any observer? in local parks recreational areas
There is no specific requirement under the authorisation. Also, it states to follow all other regs. We can't repeat every rule in every video.
@@Geeksvana I was thinking of the casual viewer who may not know the other regs. Cheers Sean 👍
@gmdronesuk3425 again, it tells people to get to know the handbook of FPVUK, the risk assessment and follow the general rules. That's three mentions in the video guiding people to fuller explanation including VLOS and risk. Hope that's enough?
One has to wonder, WHO is collecting the Profits from these clubs. Sounds shady on the Monetary side.
Eh? 'Who' is the organisation. It is literally in the title of the organisation 'who' runs it etc. You pay your money to FPVUK or BMFA etc and they take and get your money. Where is the confusion? Do you see conspiracy behind your sofa??
The BMFA is a Non-profit making association
The only thing I dislike about Article 16, is that it allows recreational flights to benefit for little effort or buy in from the operator over those doing commercial work that then need to get OA/OSC etc to get closer to these allowances!
It is one of the crazy imbalances currently within UK drone rules. The less you qualify, the more you can do.
Surely that may just indicate that the rules pertaining to commercial flights are unnecessarily onerous, not that there is anything wrong with OA16?
You didn't mention the BMFA.they submitted the application for article 16 in2020.
I am a member of BMFA myself but I chose to recommend FPVUK on cost and benefits to individuals.
I would have thought you might mention the BMFA as without them there probably wouldn't be an article 16.
I don't think that is correct. The CAA would have still needed to deal with the other member orgs as they have done. BMFA need to treat drones more fairly and welcome them more. I say that as a club secretary of a BMFA club. The cost is also more than double that of FPVUK.
@@GeeksvanaHi Sean. Dave Phipps at the BMFA was the driving force behind Article 16 and deserves much credit. Although the BMFA is more expensive, they have a higher 3rd party insurance limit of £25M just in case of the worst. They have created the British Drone Flyers to encourage more drone and quad flying in clubs and we now see many more juniors joining our club as quad flyers who then go on to try out other aeromodelling disciplines. BMFA membership will become increasingly important for non remote ID equipped aircraft in the future - 2028 onwards!
Sean, the only reason the CAA can issue Article 16 authorisations to anyone is because of the work the BMFA CEO did in with EASA in the EU when they were formulating the rules that got transferred into UK law on Brexit. Other associations have benefitted from that work, but it was the work of the BMFA over many years that has led to Article-16 authorisations in the UK.
I have a nini drone but still avoid flying over people
I do the same! Only ever go over people if I have to and for seconds.
What I don't understand is nearly 30,000 people are killed or seriously injured on our UK roads every year by motorists, what are the police doing about drivers breaking the law ? not a lot as the motor industry is big business, the government make a lot of money from taxing motorists so they turn a blind eye to the 30,000 killed or seriously injured.
Just to add a note of caution when using Article 16 in built up areas mainly used for recreation, you do need to check local byelaws.
The city of Bristol has around three hundred parks and green spaces that most flyers would consider suitable. However, all but four of them have a byelaw forbidding TOAL completely. Not only that but three of those four are very small designated areas within those parks. Not only that but two of these designated areas are regularly used for other purposes, one for football matches the other for car boot sales.
I've queried this with BMFA but they say there is no way around it.
Guess the advice is to do your homework. 😊
Absolutely. As we advise in the video, get to know the handbook of the organisation you join. Lots of important info such as checking for byelaws.
I'm looking for a video on +250G drones? Do you guys have one? Similar to your "Watch this BEFORE you fly your SUB 250G drone in the UK - 2024 UPDATE!" but for >250G drones.
I don't mind doing the license etc, but I'm very much looking at the Mavic 3 Pro. I'd like someone more knowledgable (IE, Geeksvana) to give me pointers on whether this is feasible.
Without Simons work we’d be without a hobby, let’s not forget that. I am forced to be a BMFA member in order to fly at the club I’m a member of and despite lobbying to allow FPVUK members in, I’ve not got anywhere, I genuinely believe the BMFA do more harm to the hobby than good through their divisive policies.
Absolutely! I put a little explainer in the description to state that although I am a BMFA member for club reasons, I still recommended FPVUK for a number of reasons. BMFA needs changing.
Without the BMFA we wouldn't have a hobby. They have been around longer than the CAA.
The BMFA doesn't have any devisive policies.
@yorkshiredroneflyersclub not sure what that comment is even supposed to mean. You need to respect other people's opinions a little. You are becoming a little 'trollish' in the comments. As a BMFA member myself, I would ask you not to do that as it starts to feel a little gatekeeper.
Perhaps instead you could ask the BMFA to clarify their comments towards drone operators in the recent live stream? They seem to still see the HUGE drone community as a nuisance.
hi....so as i understand now we can fly in build up areas , 30m of uninvolved people having ID flyer, ID operator and Joining FPV club? o we need A2 Cofc as well? thanks
If in a built up area, you can only fly from a recreational location, like a park, beach, sports grounds etc. You also need to follow FPVUK handbook but yes, it is that simple! (No A2 CofC required).
okay!...sounds to good to be real😅
@matiasu4989 it is excellent. Thank Simon Dale of FPVUK for his hard work gaining it!
but still not allowed to fly over residential areas with Article 16 alone? so A2 Cofc+ Article 16 gives me the max possible allowances right?