Personally I enjoys hearing you talk go through dialogue, checking descriptions and looking for discrepancies, regardless if a great portion of it doesn’t add any new ideas to the conversation. I work 10 hour shifts and it’s great when I can spend my time listening to your thoughts on Deltarune.
Another interesting thing to note about Susie's room is that the rug on her floor has the ACT symbol, which is pretty neat and probably a reference to her character arc in Chapter 1.
1:32:14 Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I always took monsters’ lacking “physical strength” in Undertale to be in reference to the composition of their bodies. Sure, they can run, jump, bench press, and what have you just as well as an average human, but because they’re made of… well, something that can turn to dust, a punch that would barely bruise a human would seriously injure a monster.
My take on the sweetness thing is relating to King, and how Ralsei healing him almost got them all killed. I think it’s less than 100 to show he’s less naive because of that
well the joke with the fedora plugboy who doesn't care about politics is how later he thinks he's safe from becoming a werewire because he's been on queen's side and then immediately gets turned into a werewire i.e. people who think politics doesn't affect their lives are wrong
I guess the crown in Susie's room could also imply the way she acts "like a queen". Like, doing what she wants in a rebelious way, above all people. She doesn't take orders from anyone
the two weather people from the leaks of chapter 3, Elnina and Lanino, based on real weather events (El Niño and La Niña) also have sun and moon heads, which could further suggest that chapter 3 is a tv world due to them both being weather related and tvs having a weather channel.
2:24:47 They don't look super similar, but immediately my mind went to the symbol on the doors in the core from Undertale (the angel-like symbol on the doors), and since the angel is very present here, it seems super important. Calling it a tree connects it to Noelle and Dess, since its a green, pointed object, very similar to a Christmas tree, and the yellow heart in the head is REALLY interesting since 1. the Spamton Neo fight utilizes the yellow soul and 2. The soul inside Kris is inside of their head at all times when not visible, so maybe there is a similar character to Noelle with a YELLOW soul possessing them? Dess? IDK its just my personal crackpot theory I just thought of
19:23 This might be just "game-mechanic" and not lore related, but it's interesting that the Jigsawry refers to his "boss" while he's talking, even using "you" when talking to the boss directly, but then immediately mentions Kris, Susie and Ralsei by name, all in third person, not using "you" to any of those, as if none of them are "boss". If Kris was the "boss" then you'd think he'd say "you" there instead. But again, maybe Toby just thought the mechanic for the tutorial would be more clear to explain if he worded it like that. Who knows at this point...
Agreed! Also I saw a comment on another Deltarune theory (think it was on one of HalfBreadChaos’ videos) about how the head butler in the butler cafe also refers to a “boss” and then when talking about what they would suggest for Kris to drink they refer to them as “the human” so it’s clear that this “boss” and Kris are two separate people! And your observation is yet another point in favor of this theory…seems mighty Gaster/Jeff/the Soul/Asriel-y if you ask me….
I always thought those cyber tree things with the yellow souls were a weird caduceus because of Noelle’s influence on the cyber world and her connection to Rudy in the hospital
2:03:08 makes me think of the snowgrave queen dialogue… “let her (noelle) slip into a deeper, darker dream” or something like that. the dreams motif in deltarune and especially its association with darkness, fantasy, and escapism is VERY interesting. (you could say *very, very, interesting* )
1:34:36 'dark yet darker, shadows cutting deeper, photones reading negative' - entery 17. Shadow/darkness as we know it is a lack of light. If there was something like a negative protone, it's the description of anti-light, opposite of light not the lack of it. A darkness stronger, exacly like here, presumebly sucking light out. I personally like to belive the entery 17 from Undertale indeed describes a darkk fountain/entery to a darkworld
Some people might say you're taking too long on these videos, but honestly they still add up to faster than when I played through because I'm not only very meticulous, but also terrible at the game
Aha, let me go grab the and prepare 3 hours of timestamps 👀 1:00 In a sense this breaks the meta as this NPC nor anyone from the current known ones roaming Castle Town know about the name of the one who used the Goner-Maker. The new fountain was seen before Kris and Susie got to meet Ralsei, and the gate was open unbeknownst to him, which could possibly imply that a party of scouts already went around that Dark World but not got into Castle Town proper until Lancer sped up against Ralsei. This is another plot-hole that could have given an opportunity for the Card Kingdom to invade Castle Town, but it doesn't explain from where they got the idea that a "JARU" was involved in the creation of Castle Town... I only see scrapped material and loose ends. Makes me wonder if this is part of the hastily scrap and wrap it up that Chapter 2 suffered before Toby moved to Japan and delegated everything to his team, or it's just an easter-egg to "egg" the theorycrafters, hah. 6:34 One of the things that made me rise a brow is this Darkner that represents apparently the Bishop chess piece but isn't enough detailed to represent the Queen piece... He simply flies away into the darkness beyond the castle walls as if nothing, which would imply that any Darkner could do just that and not stick to Castle Town proper... He's a checkov gun in the shape of an NPC that I'm sure Toby will forget it existed and will not appear later down the chapters. 10:31 Well, game mechanics needs to creep into the knowledge of the player some way or the other. It bugs me how unfinished both chapters are though... Also, recruiting or not, they all get automatically recruited by the next chapter. This happened with Chapter 2 but can only be confirmed whenever Chapter 3 lands and see if all Darkners from Cyber World were recruited against our will. Going back to this timestamp, I noticed, that perhaps the reason why all Darkners from Card Kingdom are spared is because of two things: Kris collects all of them against their will in that ball, and secondly, Toby added tutorials for mechanics that were not present in Chapter 1 but were in the end not needed because people learnt fast the mechanics. Also, the third reason could be the "your choices don't matter" too, but until we don't see Chapter 3 to see what happened with the Cyberians when not spared, the question still stands. 13:14 For me that confirms how hastily scrapped Chapter 2 is. Still unfinished and with a lot of placeholders. 13:46 Could it mean that their EXecution Points are higher? 👀 It's peculiar how there is an element for DUST. More than elements, I believe they are more like a representation of categorizing Darkners based on what Light World object they awoke from. The more Darkners we see, the more elements they are going to add to the table, because if there is RABBIT, MOUSE and CAT elements, one would expect an element for each animal, like DOG element somewhere? 21:42 I wonder if the game will crash if you get beyond the 255 o'clock shadow 😆 27:27 Oh... err... Then it's true that it's made from Lancer's bodyparts. Well, in the Dark World, even marshmallow scented stickers and chalk sticks are edible... 27:56 Though Malius is a stand in for an upgrade or forge mechanic, having the power of combining two items into a stronger new form, is a power that as Darkner would make him very powerful, if Malius had the inclination to use his powers more pro-actively (like conquering a town full of Card Kingdom goobers). 29:30 This joke should increment itself by adding the Triple-Dark-Burger on Chapter 3, the Quadruple-Dark-Burger on Chapter 4 and so on, just to spite Noelle (and feed our poor Susie 🤣). 30:50 About Noelle's quote, those ribbons were used in elementary school for little girls. It's implied that Noelle had a white one when she was younger, but don't quote me on that (I think it was from the young Kris and Noelle sprites that were scrapped from the DECEMBER puzzle map so that it only used silhouettes instead but I could be wrong). 32:10 Oh wait, TP actually means Tension Points? Well, I'd be very tense if I was dodging bullets by the skin of my teeth lol 😅 32:14 Yeah, another sign of scrappity-scrapped Chapter 2 content. It's a wonder it made it into an usable gear for the characters. 32:35 As a note, in order to acquire this sword, you need to force a Snowgrave, get the ring and then I think you can cancel the route before it locks you on it. And anyway, if the "your choices don't matter" still stands, even with a complete Snowgrave, I bet the Darkners will be alive and oblivious about it by Chapter 3 (dang, can't that chapter come fast enough). Trance lowers the TP used for ICE spells. I don't think Kris or Noelle would benefit from this at all. 41:02 I remember that in the code there are interactions with Jevil and other non recruitable Darkners but the game crashes if you force them to appear at the cafe. Still, the slots for their dialogues on this location are placeholderish, as so many things in Chapter 2 42:17 Seam is like the most suspicious fellow of all, even to the point of not giving you the Shadow Mantle and lose it before Chapter 3 even starts (as Seam implies that you need it to defeat the "bonus" boss from that Chapter). Why Seam is so conveniently omniscient???? 43:57 My headcanon is that the Angel is sealed beneath the castle and the fountain is just a product of the energy of the Angel being drained to keep that Dark World alive, but that's just my crack theory -- it's Asriel's dust all the way down 😆 45:19 Well, here you have it, Ralsei doing the same as Queen in Cyber World: living quarters to take Lightners as refugees! However, that this Dark World can't reach other Lightners but only those that Ralsei deem worthy of having a room in his castle, well... Maybe only a few chosen ones will be able to survive apocalypse 47:55 So, Ralsei's room is dusty... Dusty with... SAY THE LINE! 😸 48:49 That's because Ralsei looks like a freak from a fairytale lol Still... Isn't it suspicious that Ralsei manages to know the room to perfection even if you don't visit it? Ah, plothole details, like all of the rest spread on Chapter 2. 49:38 It is said by Roulxs that Lancer has a collection of MP3s. Makes me wonder if all of those are splat noises in different arrangements and styles 🤭 49:57 Did you see how Ralsei treats Susie like a queen, which is exactly the opposite of how she's treated in the Light World? Ralsei does the exact same thing as Queen in her own world (and more successfully but that's my bias talking and favouring Her Grace, heh). 50:13 Hah, I think all of those arguments can be valid too. We still don't know a thing about Susie's parents. They are awfully absent from every dialogue mention on both chapters. 52:05 I think Kris is only "bogarting" the moss in there 🤣 53:32 Ah... Isn't it "odd" that Ralsei would put such hazards on the bed? Like the spikes on the header and foot of the bed are decorative, but there are actual black spikes on the sides of the bed that can and will STING 😅 Does Ralsei know that Susie is a secret masochist??? 53:43 Their room looks very successful with trophies and other things Asriel had but Kris didn't on their side of the room. It almost looks like a copy of Asriel's side... Also, why the stars? Is Kris a stargazer enjoyer? Does they want to become astronauts? Or those pentagrams are related to the Occult rituals they and Catti were perusing together in the past? AH the implications... 55:20 Keepsake stand uh? I don't think Toby will ever remember this place could be used by the player to tuck trophies of any sort. 55:34 Or just pointing the fact that Kris never changes their clothes or are just the same in the Light World, just like in the "Bee Movie" (yellow black, yellow black, yellow black, oh, black and yellow!) 56:46 Wasted potential! 🤣 1:01:58 MOSS! O-O 1:03:35 To me they look more like scars. 1:10:37 Yeah, GREEN is Kindness, and the cook with the frying pan as a shield. 1:10:50 He's now FREN SHAPE'D 😆 1:15:20 Roulxs is only on a quest to find his tyrant, one that can break the rules or force them on others 🤔I'm not sure but he's quite an interesting character to explore and write about. Oh well, you'll see in time what I mean 😛 1:22:45 The LIGHT pulsates. WHAT COULD IT MEAN? 🤔Still, so convenient that Ralsei made a tunnel that connects to the door of the closet... I believe if Ralsei was inclined to, he would also make something similar on different Dark Worlds on demand. 1:26:20 Hey look, the chairs that were stolen from Kris' classroom 🤣 1:31:19 For my stand point, I don't even regard the Egg Man as important. I'm sure he's there just to mess with theorycrafters, but that's just me seeing him as a red herring to distract from more important information (like the missing chairs or why humans are the only ones having blood). 1:32:42 Undyne can suplex all the boulders she wants because she can. That she seems to retain part (if not all) of her strength from her other incarnation, just means that probably these monsters aren't not that different from the other timeline. Cars on average are always above 3 tonnes. Undyne is not someone to mess with 😆 1:35:28 If anything, Susie was there before Kris by a big margin of time, but didn't notice anything before Kris' arrival. Narrative gaff or Toby actually wanted Susie to follow Kris outside the school, but then changed ideas when he remembered that Susie should say something about seeing Undyne's antics 🤔We'll never know...
1:41:45 It's implied that the one who did that could have been either Noelle or Berdly. Since Noelle seems to be alone, and Berdly is not seen, this is another plothole, as both should have landed in the Dark World together, and Berdly wouldn't have any reason to leave Noelle alone -- his former crush -- knowing that there are monsters after both. The narrative fails to explain something so essential to know in what moment Berdly tagged with Queen or was captured by Queen and left Noelle alone for a moment before she convinced Berdly to work for her... Nothing aligns correctly here. 1:44:03 If something Noelle couldn't have done so much damage with ice spells, but Berdly as melee could in some manner. Also the Werewires could have done all the most damage in defense. Still, doesn't fit with him leaving her alone, and Noelle not saying anything about Berdly being captured or whatever. 1:47:08 Queen also implies the "study session" and I don't think she's talking about the project of the Lightners but that she studied closely the first two Lightners and how they fought. That she also have spoken to Berdly offscreen to draft him to her side is also part of this scene (?) BUT... One could say that the first to get to the Library was Berdly, as he's the one that needs to get there first because he works there in the evenings and could have gone first before Noelle arrived and saw nobody. This could explain a little better why Berdly "abandoned" Noelle if they both entered together, and why she doesn't talk about Berdly until she gets abreast of his alliance with Queen later. 1:50:07 In the original concept arts, this white and blue leg appear too. Heck, her original statue emerging from an acid pool also has this quirk. I also do fanart of her with one of the legs blue so... 1:52:27 Let's not simp. Let's not simp. Uh-wha? 🥴 1:55:52 Oh noes, the smiley of Chara 💀Why 5 screens showing 5 worlds? Isn't it too redundant? 🤔 1:59:00 "Animous" is just another word for "vehement" and "dissension" is akin to "defiance", so, there you have it, "VEHEMENT DEFIANCE". Animous means the same in Spanish for me 😜 2:02:51 Yeah, they are shaken and tired, probably from fighting Berdly when he came first. Also, if you look carefully, you can see that the plug is a three-prong but the original one is just two-prongs. An oversight it seems. 2:08:24 See the dragons around the Game Over title? 👀Also the voice-bit that says those words... sounds awfully close to someone we know 🤔 2:12:08 Imagine. Ralsei on Chapter 1 IMPLIES that he was completely aware of the Dark Fountain in the distance, which was mentioned IN THE PROPHECY as he was speaking about it, so he added that fact to it on the fly. Knowing that there was a new Dark World and that all of those Dark Worlds connect to each other via The Gate, he didn't even bother to check it or peek through it, even to the point that he didn't even know that the The Gate was OPEN, despite the road-killing fact that Lancer was a foreign Darkner and Ralsei should have know that he couldn't enter Castle Town if The Gate wasn't open. Either this is shoddy narrative, or Ralsei is taking us for a fool. "No, I felt a dark presence..." WTH YOU CAN SEE THE DARK FOUNTAINS FROM THE CASTLE STOP THIS FAÇADE OR I'M GOING TO TURN YOU BACK INTO A MUNCHED CRAYON. Anyways, I think I made my point across. While The Gate creates another Gate in the other Dark World, Kris and the others entered the same way as the Closet. I'm sure there is a Gate connected to Castle Town's Gate but is offscreen and comes from the same direction as the normal landing from the Library. 2:23:14 Well, the previous world was RED. This one is GREEN, but then changes to CYAN and then the palace is back to GREENs... Like this world doesn't know what palette to be, but hey, smol indie game developer. 2:24:08 Oh lookie, the spiny Big-Shot Angel thingies that has no electronic equivalent in the Light World 👀Let the pareidolia go brrrrrrrr 2:27:56 It's peculiar because this item is implied of be made by literal wires, and then the Puppet Scarf is implied to be made with wires too but Noelle says that they look like guitar strings. The Glow Wrist looks like the cables used for Christmas lights (called holiday lights), which they tangle quite a lot between uses. 2:29:33 OBERON SMOG INTENSIFIES. 2:30:45 And as only humans has coloured souls, I have two theories. Kris originally had a YELLOW SOUL but was taken away to place the RED one in them without a choice on the vessel that would contain them (would also explain why they are so "yellowish" but then turns CYAN in the Dark World, which is the colour of PATIENCE), or, December has a YELLOW SOUL which will give more fuel to my crack pot theory that Dess is an adopted human in the Holiday family just like Kris is in the Dreemur family, and that's why she never had horns like the rest of the Holiday 👀I still believe that Cyber World was made by Dess because of all the references around that triggers Noelle's flashbacks about her sister a lot (even a puzzle spells Dess' full name). But that's just me and my crack theories 🤔 2:31:04 That's another plot-hole or they are keeping the lore implications of Darkners' soul a mystery. They aren't like the monsters living in the Light World (which I believe ALL of them could have white upside down souls), but beings created by pure darkness, so in a sense their essence should be darkness and their souls just normal black hearts, just like the one on Ralsei's trappings). 2:26:10 I also don't like that trio, though I like K_K design. They add very little to the whole, as if they had something more deep but was scrapped (like a rebellion against Queen that never panned out), then they turn into makeshift vendors and the ones that built the sculpture for Berdly and the big toilet. They add nothing more to the narrative at large. 2:37:37 Oh... Now I notice, the background of the sky looks like the strings of a guitar... 15 strings. Hmm they indeed exist. 2:43:03 It just means that your EXP increases as well as your level. 2:46:14 It's implied that the internet of the town is down, but more like it can't contact the outside world, but they still can use their internet with their phones and computers for that zone only. It makes me think that the only reason why it was conveniently taken down is to avoid a massive plot-hole that would imply that the Dark World seep'd through the cables all over the region, thus being able to turn other computer into "Darkner Terminals" of some sort. Just, thinking too much about it... Another of the things that bother me is how these Darkners like this one regard the "internet" as an unknown thing, instead of talking about it with confidence since they are in a literal cyberworld. It's like common things like the plugs don't know about what internet is, but a computer or an Addison knows about it because their entire role is tied to internet... Nah, I call again bad script writing. Oh, also, about why Queen went extreme, it's because she couldn't contact other Lightners. That would drive anyone bent on help them and reap sweet sweet idolatry in exchange to go mad in an attempt to recover such contact. Feels like when you take the phone or the internet to someone addicted to social media, not interacting with their fans, all of that. Imagine you do that to a youtuber or an streamer, their sole role to entertain others and get some income. So that's why she concluded that if their connection is lost, then they should expand the Dark World and walk to them instead of trusting in the precarious stability of the Light World's cables 🤔 3:01:17 I also thought the same thing, because Queen feels like the forcing mother but with room to improve and goofier, as if it was a parody of Noelle's mother (which would also feed my theory that Dess made this Dark World and Queen is a parody of their mother because none of the two like her). 3:05:17 Indeed, how Ralsei knows so much about Kris' hobbies? Did the prophecy came with an addendum about the heroes???? Can't be more sketchy than what this walking crayon is Phew, that was long. I can head to sleep with my crack theories warm from watching this lore gameplay 😁
The Cyber Trees at around 2:25:00 just remind me of Kris' soul when fighting Spamton Neo & in that case the green outline would represent the green square that appears when fighting..But the shape of the tree's "body" doesn't make much sense in that context except for them representating wings because Spamton mentions flying, maybe?I don't know but speculating is always kinda fun :)
at the traffic jam, if you wait around long enough, the honks actually are in the tune of songs from undertale. specifically ive heard spear of justice, metal crusher, and flowey's leitmotif (although ive seen some people say its specifically your best friend
47:52 i think the reason Ralsei wont let the lightners go upstairs is because Queen and Tennas rooms are already done, and his secret of seeing the future would be revealed
1:23:15 If you keep going with this interpretation, it also implies that Ralsei might have had the power to send Kris and Susie home right away at the start of Chapter 1, but he instead "forced" them to go through the Card Kingdom and seal its fountain instead so that the adventure could start. (Sorry for commenting again, I'm watching this bit by bit lol)
2:11:19 interesting point here is. Ralsei pacifies two of them, but his skill can only do one . Noelle is the only one who do multiple enemies 2:17:10 what if the dark presence is Noelle? Her killing all the darkners at the beginning
Hey i have theory that how ralsei came to cyber city this fast as mentioned by jaru that the difference in distance in light world and dark world is a lot so there can't be a way to move from ct to cc but actually there is , if you think of it the distance of the closest and the supply room in the school is a whole hallway apart but we just end up in card kingdom through a huge golden door which is weird because why there has to be a huge door connecting these two dark worlds while one of them never existed before and if that door appeared because of the creation of the card kingdom why it didn't disappear? My theory is that that golden door is used to travel between different dark worlds by ralsei
One thing I noticed about 52:36 is that at the end of Chapter 1, you didn't give Ralsei the manual. Yes, maybe it's a copy, but even if you throw it out it ends up there, outside of your inventory (I know bc I'm that one nerd who doesn't drop the manual). So my question is how did Ralsei get it?
Following your theory about the castle rooms for Kris and Susie, I interpret Ralsei blocking off the stairs as actually already having the rooms on upper floors already finished, and therefore needing to stop us from seeing them til later when they become “relevant” to us. It could be foresight, or it could be potentially that Ralsei already lives consciously through the time loop.
1:42:43 i think that damage is not from anyone in the cyber world but rather it's the chips and hardware of the computer(s) that we're in, in the library cause definitely the computers are not completely new and dew the fact that we are in a place that there is a lot of plugs and nods and wires i think we just haven't entered the "cyborg" part which would make more sense than people fighting for their lives and damaging the platforms 1:44:07 or implying that we are entering the middle part of the said hardware and it's more broken cause it's in a really old and overly used computer
2:12:31 i've just had an epiphany supporting your dust Asriel theory. What if the reason Ralsei could travel between dark world is simply because Kris's soul/body is mixed with Asriel's dust ? Thus Ralsei would only take form when Kris is around, because the remains of Asriel are simply not in the Dark World. This would explain the narrative of Kris and Ralsei being really close. I mean, during Chapter 2 there's a metaphor to be seen when they're litteraly on the same boat.
And this also explains why Ralsei is called a Dark-world being, because he only takes form when a dark-world is active. Of course then we would have to explain how dark worlds work. My hypothesis would be that when there is no lightner around, the dark world goes in "pause mode", emphasizing the fact that ligthners are essential for darkners (as explained by Seam i think).
Kris leaves Castle Town to get the stuff in the unused classroom and he doesn't disappear from Susie's pov, also, he says he spent the time between CH1 and CH2 making the rooms for Kris and Susie.
I immediately felt like the spinning trees looked like Queen but interpreted as a Xmas tree and in a digital spinning gif style. Which makes a lot of sense if the world is shaped by/for Noelle with a lot of influence by Queen. Could it be interpreted Queen sees herself as seeking justice for Noelle after being exposed to her search history? (Even if not completely understanding it correctly)
Just to add because I saw it in a replay: when you begin the fight with Queen’s robot, she begins with a stance basically exactly like this as she lands from a jump.
15:00 if something likes wet places it doesn't imply the like or relation to blood in our culture so I don't think that correlation should be forced but it is sus in the context of a fantasy story
I may be overthinking here, but I feel like The King has taken on a somwehat similar mindset to Jevil here. He says "staying in this cell is far less humiliating". Just like Jevil, he says his cell is better than the outside because he's in it on his own terms (or maybe it's just copium lol).
55:23 I always thought that line was maby connected to Kris being non binary. Maby being able to wear whatever they want is something they can't get in their normal home (TORIEL IS HOMOPHOBIC THEORY WINS AGAIN), or at least ralsei gets that idea from seeing kris
About the Undyne-Humans power-scaling. I believe that this is a feature of the UT universe's battle mechanics, they are largely driven by the mental state of the fighters. Frisk doesn't get physically stronger when gaining LV and raising stats. It's the willingness to hurt. I assume this means humanity has much more violent instincts, while monsterkind is extremely cooperative. I know what Waterfall says but this could be either contributing, or monsters underestimate human brutality.
2:19:44 want to point out that whem raseil says "It seems that a new Dark Fountain has appeared.."he looks up to kris .this force implais that he has a script and that some point he know that kris will open a dark fountain. by the way give the gift too suise pls it ads one think to her room
Something I realised about the Twisted Sword is that the knowledge of its existence and components in the opening act of Chapter 2 implies that the Weird Route is the canon/intended route for the game. Why else tease the Route's existence with an otherwise unobtainable item if it's not so?
1:46:19 Why does it make more sense that Noelle made the craters instead of Queen? I understand the reasons you gave against it being Quenn but I don't think we ever see Noelle doing that kind of damage, if Noelle was indeed fighting them wouldn't there be frozen darkners around her?
Potentially, although it's entirely possible that she has the potential for other magic, such as Fireshock, that COULD do that, and she may just be suppressing the memory.
1:56:26 the positioning of the continents are not the same, and that kind of monochromatic 2d depiction of earth is very common so i find that connection very dubious.
27:19 i’m surprised you didn’t mention how lancer call kris a girl and they were perfectly fine with it. 29:10 also this implies Noel is vegetarian since she’s concerned if it’s real meat
I think the girl thing was more a typical Lancer oddball random joke based off “I now pronounce you husband and wife” from typical marriage vows because getting married to a cookie is funny, and “giving away the bride” is a thing people refer to at weddings. There isn’t really a gender-neutral equivalent and also it’s Lancer, they could be referring to Kris as a cookie😅
I don’t think this it was a misgendering thing and more of a wacky joke thing, as Lancer has literally never been serious except when he was facing off against Susie or his dad in chapter 1.
@@maiam388 that is valid considering his character but it’s a interesting option, since he also says, in chapter 1 “ boys and girls “ not boy girl and person. Also kris isn’t really offended either way so didn’t really mind so going off that idea. They may prefer they, but they’re not offended if you call them anything else .
If you knew what you're doing, taking down the internet for a town wouldnt be too difficult. You could manually cut the cables. I mean, competing internet companies have done it before.
Maybe because all mean-spirited archetypes end up getting applied to far more than just the fictional people who these archetypes were designed to insult.
Plot twist- Asrial actually died from doing too many Deltarune lore playthroughs while sick.
Cannon lore is that Gannondorf is a darkner made from Jaru’s dust
Plot twist 2: Asriel isn't dead, he just come to our world and started making 8h long videos about Deltarune on UA-cam.
That makes so much sense!
Personally I enjoys hearing you talk go through dialogue, checking descriptions and looking for discrepancies, regardless if a great portion of it doesn’t add any new ideas to the conversation. I work 10 hour shifts and it’s great when I can spend my time listening to your thoughts on Deltarune.
Another interesting thing to note about Susie's room is that the rug on her floor has the ACT symbol, which is pretty neat and probably a reference to her character arc in Chapter 1.
1:32:14 Not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, but I always took monsters’ lacking “physical strength” in Undertale to be in reference to the composition of their bodies. Sure, they can run, jump, bench press, and what have you just as well as an average human, but because they’re made of… well, something that can turn to dust, a punch that would barely bruise a human would seriously injure a monster.
God, watching Jaru playing is so refreshing. He takes his time, dont rush and try to analise everything with care. Its a rich and well-made content.
45:03 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #1
1:09:18 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #2 (might just be a Ralsei and Asriel comparison)
1:26:38 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #3
2:02:41 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #4
2:13:13 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #5
2:46:11 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #6
3:05:11 Piles of Asriel’s dust mention #7
My take on the sweetness thing is relating to King, and how Ralsei healing him almost got them all killed. I think it’s less than 100 to show he’s less naive because of that
well the joke with the fedora plugboy who doesn't care about politics is how later he thinks he's safe from becoming a werewire because he's been on queen's side and then immediately gets turned into a werewire
i.e. people who think politics doesn't affect their lives are wrong
I guess the crown in Susie's room could also imply the way she acts "like a queen". Like, doing what she wants in a rebelious way, above all people. She doesn't take orders from anyone
This playthrough is helping me fill the 38-hour Beverly Hillbillies review by Quinton's dad-shaped hole in my heart after that video was taken down.
It’s on the internet archive
2:36:32 - this is also the guy that defeated Jevil on first try in the chapter 1 lore playthrough
the two weather people from the leaks of chapter 3, Elnina and Lanino, based on real weather events (El Niño and La Niña) also have sun and moon heads, which could further suggest that chapter 3 is a tv world due to them both being weather related and tvs having a weather channel.
13:32 I wonder if susie only beating up jigsorry in CH1 is because he was the only level 1 enemy, but she couldn't defeat level 2 by herself
STOP EVERYTHING...
Guys!! Part 2 just dropped!!!
Meta-narrative.
Piles of Asriel's dust
Know what else dropped, asriel after kris shanked em (Google autocorrected it to spanked, almost like pauseeee 😂)
KRIS. GET THE -
You're my anti-depressant Jaru
2:24:47 They don't look super similar, but immediately my mind went to the symbol on the doors in the core from Undertale (the angel-like symbol on the doors), and since the angel is very present here, it seems super important. Calling it a tree connects it to Noelle and Dess, since its a green, pointed object, very similar to a Christmas tree, and the yellow heart in the head is REALLY interesting since 1. the Spamton Neo fight utilizes the yellow soul and 2. The soul inside Kris is inside of their head at all times when not visible, so maybe there is a similar character to Noelle with a YELLOW soul possessing them? Dess? IDK its just my personal crackpot theory I just thought of
reminds me of queen's face also, if you put it upside down.
This is perfect for a rainy day like I'm having, thanks
Enjoy!
released just in time for my commute, ty jaru for making it fly by
19:23 This might be just "game-mechanic" and not lore related, but it's interesting that the Jigsawry refers to his "boss" while he's talking, even using "you" when talking to the boss directly, but then immediately mentions Kris, Susie and Ralsei by name, all in third person, not using "you" to any of those, as if none of them are "boss". If Kris was the "boss" then you'd think he'd say "you" there instead.
But again, maybe Toby just thought the mechanic for the tutorial would be more clear to explain if he worded it like that. Who knows at this point...
Agreed! Also I saw a comment on another Deltarune theory (think it was on one of HalfBreadChaos’ videos) about how the head butler in the butler cafe also refers to a “boss” and then when talking about what they would suggest for Kris to drink they refer to them as “the human” so it’s clear that this “boss” and Kris are two separate people! And your observation is yet another point in favor of this theory…seems mighty Gaster/Jeff/the Soul/Asriel-y if you ask me….
At this point theorizing is just “insert vague spooky man here” lol
@@maiam388 Ooh, the fact that it happens more than once makes this a bit more interesting
I always thought those cyber tree things with the yellow souls were a weird caduceus because of Noelle’s influence on the cyber world and her connection to Rudy in the hospital
It looks like mettaton neo to me
14:41 piles of Rabick dust 😔
Are the triangles from the Delta rune logo supposed to be simplified hearts? Like 2 upside-down monster hearts and one human heart?
2:03:08 makes me think of the snowgrave queen dialogue… “let her (noelle) slip into a deeper, darker dream” or something like that. the dreams motif in deltarune and especially its association with darkness, fantasy, and escapism is VERY interesting.
(you could say *very, very, interesting* )
OH WE'RE SO BACK
Yippie!!!!
1:34:36 'dark yet darker, shadows cutting deeper, photones reading negative' - entery 17. Shadow/darkness as we know it is a lack of light. If there was something like a negative protone, it's the description of anti-light, opposite of light not the lack of it. A darkness stronger, exacly like here, presumebly sucking light out.
I personally like to belive the entery 17 from Undertale indeed describes a darkk fountain/entery to a darkworld
2:41:24 Maybe that's where the dark foutains is, where it emits its dark energy from
YEAHAAAA Part 2!
2:22:56 in the distance, a *shitty* shines brightly...
The cyber tree looks like asgore if you flip the sprite upside-down
Or mettaton neo? 2:24:17
2:04:28 - Yes Ralsei can in fact use hypnosis on people. He did that to Jevil
Lore playthrough and omori playthrough wow so much quality jaru content
Some people might say you're taking too long on these videos, but honestly they still add up to faster than when I played through because I'm not only very meticulous, but also terrible at the game
Aha, let me go grab the and prepare 3 hours of timestamps 👀
1:00 In a sense this breaks the meta as this NPC nor anyone from the current known ones roaming Castle Town know about the name of the one who used the Goner-Maker. The new fountain was seen before Kris and Susie got to meet Ralsei, and the gate was open unbeknownst to him, which could possibly imply that a party of scouts already went around that Dark World but not got into Castle Town proper until Lancer sped up against Ralsei. This is another plot-hole that could have given an opportunity for the Card Kingdom to invade Castle Town, but it doesn't explain from where they got the idea that a "JARU" was involved in the creation of Castle Town... I only see scrapped material and loose ends. Makes me wonder if this is part of the hastily scrap and wrap it up that Chapter 2 suffered before Toby moved to Japan and delegated everything to his team, or it's just an easter-egg to "egg" the theorycrafters, hah.
6:34 One of the things that made me rise a brow is this Darkner that represents apparently the Bishop chess piece but isn't enough detailed to represent the Queen piece... He simply flies away into the darkness beyond the castle walls as if nothing, which would imply that any Darkner could do just that and not stick to Castle Town proper... He's a checkov gun in the shape of an NPC that I'm sure Toby will forget it existed and will not appear later down the chapters.
10:31 Well, game mechanics needs to creep into the knowledge of the player some way or the other. It bugs me how unfinished both chapters are though... Also, recruiting or not, they all get automatically recruited by the next chapter. This happened with Chapter 2 but can only be confirmed whenever Chapter 3 lands and see if all Darkners from Cyber World were recruited against our will. Going back to this timestamp, I noticed, that perhaps the reason why all Darkners from Card Kingdom are spared is because of two things: Kris collects all of them against their will in that ball, and secondly, Toby added tutorials for mechanics that were not present in Chapter 1 but were in the end not needed because people learnt fast the mechanics. Also, the third reason could be the "your choices don't matter" too, but until we don't see Chapter 3 to see what happened with the Cyberians when not spared, the question still stands.
13:14 For me that confirms how hastily scrapped Chapter 2 is. Still unfinished and with a lot of placeholders.
13:46 Could it mean that their EXecution Points are higher? 👀 It's peculiar how there is an element for DUST. More than elements, I believe they are more like a representation of categorizing Darkners based on what Light World object they awoke from. The more Darkners we see, the more elements they are going to add to the table, because if there is RABBIT, MOUSE and CAT elements, one would expect an element for each animal, like DOG element somewhere?
21:42 I wonder if the game will crash if you get beyond the 255 o'clock shadow 😆
27:27 Oh... err... Then it's true that it's made from Lancer's bodyparts. Well, in the Dark World, even marshmallow scented stickers and chalk sticks are edible...
27:56 Though Malius is a stand in for an upgrade or forge mechanic, having the power of combining two items into a stronger new form, is a power that as Darkner would make him very powerful, if Malius had the inclination to use his powers more pro-actively (like conquering a town full of Card Kingdom goobers).
29:30 This joke should increment itself by adding the Triple-Dark-Burger on Chapter 3, the Quadruple-Dark-Burger on Chapter 4 and so on, just to spite Noelle (and feed our poor Susie 🤣).
30:50 About Noelle's quote, those ribbons were used in elementary school for little girls. It's implied that Noelle had a white one when she was younger, but don't quote me on that (I think it was from the young Kris and Noelle sprites that were scrapped from the DECEMBER puzzle map so that it only used silhouettes instead but I could be wrong).
32:10 Oh wait, TP actually means Tension Points? Well, I'd be very tense if I was dodging bullets by the skin of my teeth lol 😅
32:14 Yeah, another sign of scrappity-scrapped Chapter 2 content. It's a wonder it made it into an usable gear for the characters.
32:35 As a note, in order to acquire this sword, you need to force a Snowgrave, get the ring and then I think you can cancel the route before it locks you on it. And anyway, if the "your choices don't matter" still stands, even with a complete Snowgrave, I bet the Darkners will be alive and oblivious about it by Chapter 3 (dang, can't that chapter come fast enough). Trance lowers the TP used for ICE spells. I don't think Kris or Noelle would benefit from this at all.
41:02 I remember that in the code there are interactions with Jevil and other non recruitable Darkners but the game crashes if you force them to appear at the cafe. Still, the slots for their dialogues on this location are placeholderish, as so many things in Chapter 2
42:17 Seam is like the most suspicious fellow of all, even to the point of not giving you the Shadow Mantle and lose it before Chapter 3 even starts (as Seam implies that you need it to defeat the "bonus" boss from that Chapter). Why Seam is so conveniently omniscient????
43:57 My headcanon is that the Angel is sealed beneath the castle and the fountain is just a product of the energy of the Angel being drained to keep that Dark World alive, but that's just my crack theory -- it's Asriel's dust all the way down 😆
45:19 Well, here you have it, Ralsei doing the same as Queen in Cyber World: living quarters to take Lightners as refugees! However, that this Dark World can't reach other Lightners but only those that Ralsei deem worthy of having a room in his castle, well... Maybe only a few chosen ones will be able to survive apocalypse
47:55 So, Ralsei's room is dusty... Dusty with... SAY THE LINE! 😸
48:49 That's because Ralsei looks like a freak from a fairytale lol Still... Isn't it suspicious that Ralsei manages to know the room to perfection even if you don't visit it? Ah, plothole details, like all of the rest spread on Chapter 2.
49:38 It is said by Roulxs that Lancer has a collection of MP3s. Makes me wonder if all of those are splat noises in different arrangements and styles 🤭
49:57 Did you see how Ralsei treats Susie like a queen, which is exactly the opposite of how she's treated in the Light World? Ralsei does the exact same thing as Queen in her own world (and more successfully but that's my bias talking and favouring Her Grace, heh).
50:13 Hah, I think all of those arguments can be valid too. We still don't know a thing about Susie's parents. They are awfully absent from every dialogue mention on both chapters.
52:05 I think Kris is only "bogarting" the moss in there 🤣
53:32 Ah... Isn't it "odd" that Ralsei would put such hazards on the bed? Like the spikes on the header and foot of the bed are decorative, but there are actual black spikes on the sides of the bed that can and will STING 😅 Does Ralsei know that Susie is a secret masochist???
53:43 Their room looks very successful with trophies and other things Asriel had but Kris didn't on their side of the room. It almost looks like a copy of Asriel's side... Also, why the stars? Is Kris a stargazer enjoyer? Does they want to become astronauts? Or those pentagrams are related to the Occult rituals they and Catti were perusing together in the past? AH the implications...
55:20 Keepsake stand uh? I don't think Toby will ever remember this place could be used by the player to tuck trophies of any sort.
55:34 Or just pointing the fact that Kris never changes their clothes or are just the same in the Light World, just like in the "Bee Movie" (yellow black, yellow black, yellow black, oh, black and yellow!)
56:46 Wasted potential! 🤣
1:01:58 MOSS! O-O
1:03:35 To me they look more like scars.
1:10:37 Yeah, GREEN is Kindness, and the cook with the frying pan as a shield.
1:10:50 He's now FREN SHAPE'D 😆
1:15:20 Roulxs is only on a quest to find his tyrant, one that can break the rules or force them on others 🤔I'm not sure but he's quite an interesting character to explore and write about. Oh well, you'll see in time what I mean 😛
1:22:45 The LIGHT pulsates. WHAT COULD IT MEAN? 🤔Still, so convenient that Ralsei made a tunnel that connects to the door of the closet... I believe if Ralsei was inclined to, he would also make something similar on different Dark Worlds on demand.
1:26:20 Hey look, the chairs that were stolen from Kris' classroom 🤣
1:31:19 For my stand point, I don't even regard the Egg Man as important. I'm sure he's there just to mess with theorycrafters, but that's just me seeing him as a red herring to distract from more important information (like the missing chairs or why humans are the only ones having blood).
1:32:42 Undyne can suplex all the boulders she wants because she can. That she seems to retain part (if not all) of her strength from her other incarnation, just means that probably these monsters aren't not that different from the other timeline. Cars on average are always above 3 tonnes. Undyne is not someone to mess with 😆
1:35:28 If anything, Susie was there before Kris by a big margin of time, but didn't notice anything before Kris' arrival. Narrative gaff or Toby actually wanted Susie to follow Kris outside the school, but then changed ideas when he remembered that Susie should say something about seeing Undyne's antics 🤔We'll never know...
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1:41:45 It's implied that the one who did that could have been either Noelle or Berdly. Since Noelle seems to be alone, and Berdly is not seen, this is another plothole, as both should have landed in the Dark World together, and Berdly wouldn't have any reason to leave Noelle alone -- his former crush -- knowing that there are monsters after both. The narrative fails to explain something so essential to know in what moment Berdly tagged with Queen or was captured by Queen and left Noelle alone for a moment before she convinced Berdly to work for her... Nothing aligns correctly here.
1:44:03 If something Noelle couldn't have done so much damage with ice spells, but Berdly as melee could in some manner. Also the Werewires could have done all the most damage in defense. Still, doesn't fit with him leaving her alone, and Noelle not saying anything about Berdly being captured or whatever.
1:47:08 Queen also implies the "study session" and I don't think she's talking about the project of the Lightners but that she studied closely the first two Lightners and how they fought. That she also have spoken to Berdly offscreen to draft him to her side is also part of this scene (?) BUT... One could say that the first to get to the Library was Berdly, as he's the one that needs to get there first because he works there in the evenings and could have gone first before Noelle arrived and saw nobody. This could explain a little better why Berdly "abandoned" Noelle if they both entered together, and why she doesn't talk about Berdly until she gets abreast of his alliance with Queen later.
1:50:07 In the original concept arts, this white and blue leg appear too. Heck, her original statue emerging from an acid pool also has this quirk. I also do fanart of her with one of the legs blue so...
1:52:27 Let's not simp. Let's not simp. Uh-wha? 🥴
1:55:52 Oh noes, the smiley of Chara 💀Why 5 screens showing 5 worlds? Isn't it too redundant? 🤔
1:59:00 "Animous" is just another word for "vehement" and "dissension" is akin to "defiance", so, there you have it, "VEHEMENT DEFIANCE". Animous means the same in Spanish for me 😜
2:02:51 Yeah, they are shaken and tired, probably from fighting Berdly when he came first. Also, if you look carefully, you can see that the plug is a three-prong but the original one is just two-prongs. An oversight it seems.
2:08:24 See the dragons around the Game Over title? 👀Also the voice-bit that says those words... sounds awfully close to someone we know 🤔
2:12:08 Imagine. Ralsei on Chapter 1 IMPLIES that he was completely aware of the Dark Fountain in the distance, which was mentioned IN THE PROPHECY as he was speaking about it, so he added that fact to it on the fly. Knowing that there was a new Dark World and that all of those Dark Worlds connect to each other via The Gate, he didn't even bother to check it or peek through it, even to the point that he didn't even know that the The Gate was OPEN, despite the road-killing fact that Lancer was a foreign Darkner and Ralsei should have know that he couldn't enter Castle Town if The Gate wasn't open. Either this is shoddy narrative, or Ralsei is taking us for a fool. "No, I felt a dark presence..." WTH YOU CAN SEE THE DARK FOUNTAINS FROM THE CASTLE STOP THIS FAÇADE OR I'M GOING TO TURN YOU BACK INTO A MUNCHED CRAYON. Anyways, I think I made my point across. While The Gate creates another Gate in the other Dark World, Kris and the others entered the same way as the Closet. I'm sure there is a Gate connected to Castle Town's Gate but is offscreen and comes from the same direction as the normal landing from the Library.
2:23:14 Well, the previous world was RED. This one is GREEN, but then changes to CYAN and then the palace is back to GREENs... Like this world doesn't know what palette to be, but hey, smol indie game developer.
2:24:08 Oh lookie, the spiny Big-Shot Angel thingies that has no electronic equivalent in the Light World 👀Let the pareidolia go brrrrrrrr
2:27:56 It's peculiar because this item is implied of be made by literal wires, and then the Puppet Scarf is implied to be made with wires too but Noelle says that they look like guitar strings. The Glow Wrist looks like the cables used for Christmas lights (called holiday lights), which they tangle quite a lot between uses.
2:29:33 OBERON SMOG INTENSIFIES.
2:30:45 And as only humans has coloured souls, I have two theories. Kris originally had a YELLOW SOUL but was taken away to place the RED one in them without a choice on the vessel that would contain them (would also explain why they are so "yellowish" but then turns CYAN in the Dark World, which is the colour of PATIENCE), or, December has a YELLOW SOUL which will give more fuel to my crack pot theory that Dess is an adopted human in the Holiday family just like Kris is in the Dreemur family, and that's why she never had horns like the rest of the Holiday 👀I still believe that Cyber World was made by Dess because of all the references around that triggers Noelle's flashbacks about her sister a lot (even a puzzle spells Dess' full name). But that's just me and my crack theories 🤔
2:31:04 That's another plot-hole or they are keeping the lore implications of Darkners' soul a mystery. They aren't like the monsters living in the Light World (which I believe ALL of them could have white upside down souls), but beings created by pure darkness, so in a sense their essence should be darkness and their souls just normal black hearts, just like the one on Ralsei's trappings).
2:26:10 I also don't like that trio, though I like K_K design. They add very little to the whole, as if they had something more deep but was scrapped (like a rebellion against Queen that never panned out), then they turn into makeshift vendors and the ones that built the sculpture for Berdly and the big toilet. They add nothing more to the narrative at large.
2:37:37 Oh... Now I notice, the background of the sky looks like the strings of a guitar... 15 strings. Hmm they indeed exist.
2:43:03 It just means that your EXP increases as well as your level.
2:46:14 It's implied that the internet of the town is down, but more like it can't contact the outside world, but they still can use their internet with their phones and computers for that zone only. It makes me think that the only reason why it was conveniently taken down is to avoid a massive plot-hole that would imply that the Dark World seep'd through the cables all over the region, thus being able to turn other computer into "Darkner Terminals" of some sort. Just, thinking too much about it... Another of the things that bother me is how these Darkners like this one regard the "internet" as an unknown thing, instead of talking about it with confidence since they are in a literal cyberworld. It's like common things like the plugs don't know about what internet is, but a computer or an Addison knows about it because their entire role is tied to internet... Nah, I call again bad script writing. Oh, also, about why Queen went extreme, it's because she couldn't contact other Lightners. That would drive anyone bent on help them and reap sweet sweet idolatry in exchange to go mad in an attempt to recover such contact. Feels like when you take the phone or the internet to someone addicted to social media, not interacting with their fans, all of that. Imagine you do that to a youtuber or an streamer, their sole role to entertain others and get some income.
So that's why she concluded that if their connection is lost, then they should expand the Dark World and walk to them instead of trusting in the precarious stability of the Light World's cables 🤔
3:01:17 I also thought the same thing, because Queen feels like the forcing mother but with room to improve and goofier, as if it was a parody of Noelle's mother (which would also feed my theory that Dess made this Dark World and Queen is a parody of their mother because none of the two like her).
3:05:17 Indeed, how Ralsei knows so much about Kris' hobbies? Did the prophecy came with an addendum about the heroes???? Can't be more sketchy than what this walking crayon is
Phew, that was long. I can head to sleep with my crack theories warm from watching this lore gameplay 😁
The Cyber Trees at around 2:25:00 just remind me of Kris' soul when fighting Spamton Neo & in that case the green outline would represent the green square that appears when fighting..But the shape of the tree's "body" doesn't make much sense in that context except for them representating wings because Spamton mentions flying, maybe?I don't know but speculating is always kinda fun :)
Triple J here back with another EPIC LORE VIDEO!!!
JaruJaru, the Last Yapbender
at the traffic jam, if you wait around long enough, the honks actually are in the tune of songs from undertale. specifically ive heard spear of justice, metal crusher, and flowey's leitmotif (although ive seen some people say its specifically your best friend
2:49:35 laughter of someone caught me off guard, but was really nice to hear
3:03:15 yeah, she's quoting her knowledge regarding the creation of dark fountains.
47:52 i think the reason Ralsei wont let the lightners go upstairs is because Queen and Tennas rooms are already done, and his secret of seeing the future would be revealed
Looks like the next three and a half hours of my life have been decided!
1:23:15 If you keep going with this interpretation, it also implies that Ralsei might have had the power to send Kris and Susie home right away at the start of Chapter 1, but he instead "forced" them to go through the Card Kingdom and seal its fountain instead so that the adventure could start.
(Sorry for commenting again, I'm watching this bit by bit lol)
2:11:19 interesting point here is. Ralsei pacifies two of them, but his skill can only do one .
Noelle is the only one who do multiple enemies
2:17:10 what if the dark presence is Noelle? Her killing all the darkners at the beginning
Hey i have theory that how ralsei came to cyber city this fast as mentioned by jaru that the difference in distance in light world and dark world is a lot so there can't be a way to move from ct to cc but actually there is , if you think of it the distance of the closest and the supply room in the school is a whole hallway apart but we just end up in card kingdom through a huge golden door which is weird because why there has to be a huge door connecting these two dark worlds while one of them never existed before and if that door appeared because of the creation of the card kingdom why it didn't disappear?
My theory is that that golden door is used to travel between different dark worlds by ralsei
Yeah that makes sense. I’m gonna steal this theory
lol I finished part one like 10 minutes ago 😂
One thing I noticed about 52:36 is that at the end of Chapter 1, you didn't give Ralsei the manual. Yes, maybe it's a copy, but even if you throw it out it ends up there, outside of your inventory (I know bc I'm that one nerd who doesn't drop the manual). So my question is how did Ralsei get it?
Following your theory about the castle rooms for Kris and Susie, I interpret Ralsei blocking off the stairs as actually already having the rooms on upper floors already finished, and therefore needing to stop us from seeing them til later when they become “relevant” to us. It could be foresight, or it could be potentially that Ralsei already lives consciously through the time loop.
1:42:43 i think that damage is not from anyone in the cyber world but rather it's the chips and hardware of the computer(s) that we're in, in the library cause definitely the computers are not completely new and dew the fact that we are in a place that there is a lot of plugs and nods and wires i think we just haven't entered the "cyborg" part which would make more sense than people fighting for their lives and damaging the platforms
1:44:07 or implying that we are entering the middle part of the said hardware and it's more broken cause it's in a really old and overly used computer
Sorry to comment something only partially related, but you have to stream Undertale Yellow when you can; it has Godlike quality.
2:12:31 i've just had an epiphany supporting your dust Asriel theory. What if the reason Ralsei could travel between dark world is simply because Kris's soul/body is mixed with Asriel's dust ? Thus Ralsei would only take form when Kris is around, because the remains of Asriel are simply not in the Dark World.
This would explain the narrative of Kris and Ralsei being really close. I mean, during Chapter 2 there's a metaphor to be seen when they're litteraly on the same boat.
And this also explains why Ralsei is called a Dark-world being, because he only takes form when a dark-world is active. Of course then we would have to explain how dark worlds work. My hypothesis would be that when there is no lightner around, the dark world goes in "pause mode", emphasizing the fact that ligthners are essential for darkners (as explained by Seam i think).
Kris leaves Castle Town to get the stuff in the unused classroom and he doesn't disappear from Susie's pov, also, he says he spent the time between CH1 and CH2 making the rooms for Kris and Susie.
I immediately felt like the spinning trees looked like Queen but interpreted as a Xmas tree and in a digital spinning gif style. Which makes a lot of sense if the world is shaped by/for Noelle with a lot of influence by Queen.
Could it be interpreted Queen sees herself as seeking justice for Noelle after being exposed to her search history? (Even if not completely understanding it correctly)
Just to add because I saw it in a replay: when you begin the fight with Queen’s robot, she begins with a stance basically exactly like this as she lands from a jump.
3:06:25 I like to read it meta-narrative refeering ti the player beeing good at what they're doing right in that moment;)
Time to get the popcorn
15:00 if something likes wet places it doesn't imply the like or relation to blood in our culture so I don't think that correlation should be forced but it is sus in the context of a fantasy story
I may be overthinking here, but I feel like The King has taken on a somwehat similar mindset to Jevil here. He says "staying in this cell is far less humiliating". Just like Jevil, he says his cell is better than the outside because he's in it on his own terms (or maybe it's just copium lol).
2:23:00 Jaru didn't notice himself accidentally saying a shitty shines brightly 😆
A shitty shines brightly…………
1:24:33 Kris be murmuring when he speaks, which is why its alarming when he suddenly shouts after his fight with spamton
Jaru Tuesday video 😎
55:23 I always thought that line was maby connected to Kris being non binary. Maby being able to wear whatever they want is something they can't get in their normal home (TORIEL IS HOMOPHOBIC THEORY WINS AGAIN), or at least ralsei gets that idea from seeing kris
About the Undyne-Humans power-scaling. I believe that this is a feature of the UT universe's battle mechanics, they are largely driven by the mental state of the fighters. Frisk doesn't get physically stronger when gaining LV and raising stats. It's the willingness to hurt. I assume this means humanity has much more violent instincts, while monsterkind is extremely cooperative. I know what Waterfall says but this could be either contributing, or monsters underestimate human brutality.
2:19:44 want to point out that whem raseil says "It seems that a new Dark Fountain has appeared.."he looks up to kris .this force implais that he has a script and that some point he know that kris will open a dark fountain.
by the way give the gift too suise pls it ads one think to her room
Asriel is the one saying they should go home to use computer 1:37:58
you may be a number two theorist but you're a number one youtube
2:19:58 it's also interesting that Ralsei doesn't even ask who Noelle is
i guess she was included in the prophecy somehow huh 🤨
magical stool for me
Something I realised about the Twisted Sword is that the knowledge of its existence and components in the opening act of Chapter 2 implies that the Weird Route is the canon/intended route for the game. Why else tease the Route's existence with an otherwise unobtainable item if it's not so?
1:46:19 Why does it make more sense that Noelle made the craters instead of Queen? I understand the reasons you gave against it being Quenn but I don't think we ever see Noelle doing that kind of damage, if Noelle was indeed fighting them wouldn't there be frozen darkners around her?
Potentially, although it's entirely possible that she has the potential for other magic, such as Fireshock, that COULD do that, and she may just be suppressing the memory.
AHHH SO EXCITED FOR PT 3!!!!
Ah!! It's his Part 2 o'clock shadow!
I Watched this early at patreon lol
1:52:35
In what way are computers superior to humans in terms of ethical things?
They lack the bias, bigotry, hatred, malice, short-sightedness, and pettiness that corrupts human behavior.
@@JaruJaruJ That may be true in theory, but in practice computers are programmed by humans and carry on their biases.
This video is a bit longer than part one so surely Jaru did more progress right?
Right?
The video length to progress ratio is all out of sorts
1:56:26 the positioning of the continents are not the same, and that kind of monochromatic 2d depiction of earth is very common so i find that connection very dubious.
2:32:25 bro what is guy yaping about its just a tree😭
Did You Known... DentalSpoon was creationed by tony focks
shine on you lazy diamond is music joke of the song shine on you crazy diamond
You see almost as many deltarune symbols in deltarune as you'd see american flags when visiting a town in the US 😂
Didn’t lancer walk from card kingdom to castle town? What if there’s a series of tunnels that connect each world.
I think the third triangle in the deltarune symbol is yellow
42:46 WHAT?!
Twas a joke. xD
@@JaruJaruJ oh ok i was scared for a moment 😅
2:11:56 Queen (and every other darkner you recruit) did
Good vid
Rabbick in JP uses the word dust different from the monster remains kind.
27:19 i’m surprised you didn’t mention how lancer call kris a girl and they were perfectly fine with it.
29:10 also this implies Noel is vegetarian since she’s concerned if it’s real meat
I think the girl thing was more a typical Lancer oddball random joke based off “I now pronounce you husband and wife” from typical marriage vows because getting married to a cookie is funny, and “giving away the bride” is a thing people refer to at weddings. There isn’t really a gender-neutral equivalent and also it’s Lancer, they could be referring to Kris as a cookie😅
I don’t think this it was a misgendering thing and more of a wacky joke thing, as Lancer has literally never been serious except when he was facing off against Susie or his dad in chapter 1.
@@maiam388 that is valid considering his character but it’s a interesting option, since he also says, in chapter 1 “ boys and girls “ not boy girl and person. Also kris isn’t really offended either way so didn’t really mind so going off that idea. They may prefer they, but they’re not offended if you call them anything else .
@@maiam388 didn’t you just comment twice?
If you knew what you're doing, taking down the internet for a town wouldnt be too difficult. You could manually cut the cables.
I mean, competing internet companies have done it before.
2:20:40
I think it was shayy
2:57:12 I mean, yeah, why wouldn’t it be? It’s not necessarily an admirable archetype
Maybe because all mean-spirited archetypes end up getting applied to far more than just the fictional people who these archetypes were designed to insult.
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Gah when is part 3?
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AZZYPANTS OTP 🐱🏳️🌈🐐
1:56:03 it doesnt look similar at all wdym lol
2:27:00 Just say clover
hey jarajaruj if i ever wanted to contact you, should i message you through email is that only business?
DMing me on Twitter, or replying to a Tweet, is preferable. Email is for business only.