@L0un9ePunk Industrial started with Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records but its heritage goes back as far as The Futurist composer Luigi Rosolo's noise compositions,The Dadaists noise-art concept of Brutism as well as the early Russian avant-guard filmmaker and composer Dziga Vertov's work.
Industrial dates back to the first caveman banging rocks together. I think "industrial", like "noise" is more a state of mind than an actual description of musical content. The pioneers of the industrial genre are probably not too happy to be put in the (nowadays very narrow) category of "industrial". In a way, the less you follow the conventions of industrial, the closer you get to its actual roots. Like Nietzsche said: "if you want to follow me, walk your own path" (loosely translated)
a couple of years ago, one of the things one of my teachers said about the live version of "Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T." when I showed it to her was that it was "almost tribal". That has stuck with me whenever I listen to Neubauten, and I completely agree with her. Especially in songs like "Einsame Woelfin", "Schlangensohn" and "Armenisch Bitter".
They lost a bunch of them in the theft in 99, but have replaced a lot of them since.. I remember seeing a vintage Jaguar in a guitar shop in NYC in 1992 and it was around $500.. I bought a 1965 Fender mustang in 93-94 for $350 with original case..
@thirdshift47 good looking out. it seems that with avant garde trendssetters, history tends to suffer a bit. growing up in punk rock and art circles, i ran into plenty of folks with revisionist narrowed view of significant contributors to the genre.
@L0un9ePunk No problem man. Indeed,Industrial is a pretty generic term which could rightlyfully apply to so many different musical idioms(I still struggle classifying TG.lol)Great call on Schaeffer,who's still goes underappreciated and unmentioned too often. And I actually forgot to mention John Cage's role in that evolution. Keep lettin' these cats know.
When sonic youth started collecting the Jazzmasters that make up the majority of their guitar arsenal.. late 80's early 90's.. the Vintage models weren't that expensive.. They're use of them and other alt bands of the time is whats driven the prices up to what you see now on 1960's Jazzmasters, jaguars and other non tele/strat models of fenders..
Industrial is just another name of the industry, good music don´t need labels, some names make references to subcultures. nice see this from the same Blixa, I think E.N find S-Y and viseverse for Lydia Lunch, sorry my caca english.
if you are GOOD musician you can say that,i agree, if you are a composer, you r wellcome. if you play with pressure cookers, alternavie noise. It might be you say it cause you are not able.
that is so mean! Blixa is not an arty farty fat. Which is an interesting thing so say about someone with a very brillaint mind and so what if he put on a bit of weight? That kind of man is still sexy no matter what size-the intelligence is sexy
totally random thought that just came to mind - i cant fucking believe Madonna is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. really, hasnt money and power destroyed the dignity of all things?
Ha Ha it's really pointless arguing musical preferences with some metal geek. They don't understand that it's really a waste of time or imagination trying to come up with their latest version of Black Sabbath. Their ridiculous self importance and talk about guitar technique is a laugh riot, don't ya think? What else should I expect from someone who reveres one of THE MOST OVERRATED albums like Pasture Of Muppets. Musical fuckwits, bless their buttrocker hearts.
Blixa is a fantastic artist!
Mark E. Smith, Sonic Youth and Einstürzende Neubauten in one vid... that's pretty cool I guess
I love Blixa and Sonic Youth, so this is awesome.
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Teenage Riot was so cutting edge, still sounds fresh in a way
@L0un9ePunk
Industrial started with Throbbing Gristle's Industrial Records but its heritage goes back as far as The Futurist composer Luigi Rosolo's noise compositions,The Dadaists noise-art concept of Brutism as well as the early Russian avant-guard filmmaker and composer Dziga Vertov's work.
Blixa for President
Lol
Neubauten and the Youth must rank among the seminal music makers of the 20th Century...well, the 21st as well. Great clip, many thanks for it!
Industrial dates back to the first caveman banging rocks together. I think "industrial", like "noise" is more a state of mind than an actual description of musical content. The pioneers of the industrial genre are probably not too happy to be put in the (nowadays very narrow) category of "industrial". In a way, the less you follow the conventions of industrial, the closer you get to its actual roots. Like Nietzsche said: "if you want to follow me, walk your own path" (loosely translated)
a couple of years ago, one of the things one of my teachers said about the live version of "Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T." when I showed it to her was that it was "almost tribal".
That has stuck with me whenever I listen to Neubauten, and I completely agree with her. Especially in songs like "Einsame Woelfin", "Schlangensohn" and "Armenisch Bitter".
@@EvilCat-EnergyCatalyst Where could one find this live version ? If you could bump me in its direction it'd be much appreciated !
@@scabbt-archive No probs, it's the one off the "Halber Mensch" film from their live show at Korakuen Hall, Tokyo, 1985.
the fact that "tuning" and "mood" are the same word in German (and Dutch) goes lost in translation
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blixa hat die geilste stimme der welt!!!
Fascinating man fascinating.
"da komm ich schon rüber!"
Ah, I love him. ^_^
This video actually turned me on to sonic youth. 15 years ago
same, I only started listening to Sonic Youth in January this year because I read somewhere that Blixa appreciated them for being different.
He's always so swagged out
They lost a bunch of them in the theft in 99, but have replaced a lot of them since..
I remember seeing a vintage Jaguar in a guitar shop in NYC in 1992 and it was around $500..
I bought a 1965 Fender mustang in 93-94 for $350 with original case..
@thirdshift47
good looking out. it seems that with avant garde trendssetters, history tends to suffer a bit. growing up in punk rock and art circles, i ran into plenty of folks with revisionist narrowed view of significant contributors to the genre.
@L0un9ePunk
No problem man.
Indeed,Industrial is a pretty generic term which could rightlyfully apply to so many different musical idioms(I still struggle classifying TG.lol)Great call on Schaeffer,who's still goes underappreciated and unmentioned too often.
And I actually forgot to mention John Cage's role in that evolution.
Keep lettin' these cats know.
@koylmusic Funny, that is when Butoh started as well.
When sonic youth started collecting the Jazzmasters that make up the majority of their guitar arsenal.. late 80's early 90's.. the Vintage models weren't that expensive.. They're use of them and other alt bands of the time is whats driven the prices up to what you see now on 1960's Jazzmasters, jaguars and other non tele/strat models of fenders..
"Abgewirtschafftete". This guy turns pretention into art. Love him 😁
Industrial is just another name of the industry, good music don´t need labels, some names make references to subcultures.
nice see this from the same Blixa,
I think E.N find S-Y and viseverse for Lydia Lunch, sorry my caca english.
1:00 holy shit its Mark E. Smith!
I would say that industrial music started in France with Pierre Schaeffer Musique concrète
"Das mocht ich!"
how is the whole documentation called ?
I love German.
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Industrial music born in the industrial revolution, for 1780´s there was many factorys of coal and cotton with amazing noises.
Yeah, man... It has to have a direction though
says who?
wow... I was surprised 'understanding' him so well :D
I am german...
...and often i think it were japan models... they payed between 50 to 150 as far as i remember an interview.
Industrial music started in Britain with Industrial Records.
cool!
Wasn't he a guitarist as a Bad Seed? Maybe Nick has impressive blackmail material...
Yes he was
if you are GOOD musician you can say that,i agree, if you are a composer, you r wellcome.
if you play with pressure cookers, alternavie noise. It might be you say it cause you are not able.
anybody know this dude?^^ even though i´m german^^
that is so mean! Blixa is not an arty farty fat. Which is an interesting thing so say about someone with a very brillaint mind and so what if he put on a bit of weight? That kind of man is still sexy no matter what size-the intelligence is sexy
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totally random thought that just came to mind - i cant fucking believe Madonna is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. really, hasnt money and power destroyed the dignity of all things?
years later we see that some bands were greatly overrated due to PR
ahah it hurts .....cause its true.. eh ;-))
Nick's boyfriend
Ha Ha it's really pointless arguing musical preferences with some metal geek. They don't understand that it's really a waste of time or imagination trying to come up with their latest version of Black Sabbath. Their ridiculous self importance and talk about guitar technique is a laugh riot, don't ya think? What else should I expect from someone who reveres one of THE MOST OVERRATED albums like Pasture Of Muppets. Musical fuckwits, bless their buttrocker hearts.
I have no idea who any of these people are.
lol
he doesnt like guitars cause are too difficult to play. (well)
everybody hates sy - patronize art is not fun
all their 80s albums are awesome. wtf
Speak for yourself. Members of Nirvana certainly did. Sonic Youth were awesome.