For cost consciousness, especially after you said a 1DXm2 was a possibility, I figured you might pick the R6m1 since it has the same sensor and AF as the 1DXm3 and you can score those for $1500 to $1800 right now. Using adapted L-series EF lenses makes it an unreal bargain for camera quality paired with optical quality. The only downside to using adapted L-series EF lenses is that it's heavier to go that route... but for sports does that matter? I have the R7 on my list as well... when the mark 2 comes out I'll see if I can talk a millennial into buying my "vintage" 5Dm3 to cover some of the cost toward an R7. The battery grip part... personal preference, I suppose. I skip the grip and keep a pocket full of charged batteries because the mirrorless body will eat batteries so much faster than a DSLR. Good stuff -- looking forward to the next installment and hearing your reactions and observations after making the switch!
Have you thought about selling both cameras and than getting a 1DX2 and the R7? I have this combo and I like the versatility of it. If you‘re looking at getting the R6II, then my proposal should be in your budget line. And yes, the R7 has no battery grip. Not that you need more batteries for a game. After 1500 snaps, the batterie is still at 3/4 of its capacity. For the additional weight - so my long lens on a Monopod is balanced - I chopped and mounted an old grip from a 30D. So at least the ergonomics problem is solved.
I have thought of every different combo possible, including the one you mentioned (1DX II + R7). That’s good to hear about the R7 battery, was not expecting it to last that long. Sometimes I have double headers though (2 matches in the same day one after another) so I can’t rely on only one battery, but could always have one extra on the side.
As a long time Nikon shooter, I can tell you the Z9 and 8 are excellent for sports. The lesser models, Z6ii and 7ii do not do eye tracking particularly well, but they are still useful for sports in the Dynamic modes. Good luck!
I'm having the same dilemma. I'm a Canon shooter fully invested in EF lenses. Are you going to upgrade to RF lenses, or adapt your EF? I'm thinking of the R8 or wait for the R5mk2. Main reason for switching is the focusing. My Canon DSLR has eye detection in live view, but using live view is cumbersome. I find it ok for portraits, but action shots are difficult.
I'll be adapting and keeping my EF lenses, I'll still have a DSLR, and even if I went full mirrorless I'd keep my EF lenses. For sports photography I wouldn't go for the R8, it doesn't have a mechanical shutter.
Lots of people complain about there not being 3rd party RF glass but these same people ignore that you can get L-SERIES lenses for the EF mount for absolute bargain prices from pros who have switched either to Sony or who have gone all-in on RF glass. The main difference I've heard is weight: the RF 70-200 f/2.8L is much lighter and more compact than the EF versions... but that's offset by the very bulky RF 28-70 f/2L. Used pro-level EF glass is abundant and why I went with Canon when I got back into serious shooting a couple years ago. Best bargain I've gotten so far is a 300mm f/2.8L for USD$1500. Exterior this lens is in "fair" condition: had been used for years by a working pro shooter and it has the battle wear to prove it. But optically it's AMAZING and I'm so glad I went with this strategy for building out my lens lineup.
@@MLeeMedia I like Rob Samples' video on using EF glass on the R6: ua-cam.com/video/sAor16boISQ/v-deo.html -- the one thing Rob mentions where you might lose a bit on the adapted EF glass is in upper frames/sec. This is something I need to get out and test doing some sports shooting where the action is coming straight at me... but I'm confident that even if adapted L-series EF isn't as fast (frames/sec) as native RF glass the upgrade over my 5Dm3 will be so big I won't care.
@@AdamQuinnPhoto Yeah to be honest I'm not concerned with this, but will need to test it out to see for myself. The upgrade for me will be significant as well. Looking forward to it.
This is good information. Thank you.
For cost consciousness, especially after you said a 1DXm2 was a possibility, I figured you might pick the R6m1 since it has the same sensor and AF as the 1DXm3 and you can score those for $1500 to $1800 right now. Using adapted L-series EF lenses makes it an unreal bargain for camera quality paired with optical quality. The only downside to using adapted L-series EF lenses is that it's heavier to go that route... but for sports does that matter? I have the R7 on my list as well... when the mark 2 comes out I'll see if I can talk a millennial into buying my "vintage" 5Dm3 to cover some of the cost toward an R7. The battery grip part... personal preference, I suppose. I skip the grip and keep a pocket full of charged batteries because the mirrorless body will eat batteries so much faster than a DSLR. Good stuff -- looking forward to the next installment and hearing your reactions and observations after making the switch!
Great to see you back on UA-cam David. I’m also trying to decide on an upgrade. I have an R6 and an R so looking to upgrade the R but too what 🤔
Thanks Kevin :)
Have you thought about selling both cameras and than getting a 1DX2 and the R7? I have this combo and I like the versatility of it.
If you‘re looking at getting the R6II, then my proposal should be in your budget line.
And yes, the R7 has no battery grip. Not that you need more batteries for a game. After 1500 snaps, the batterie is still at 3/4 of its capacity. For the additional weight - so my long lens on a Monopod is balanced - I chopped and mounted an old grip from a 30D. So at least the ergonomics problem is solved.
I have thought of every different combo possible, including the one you mentioned (1DX II + R7). That’s good to hear about the R7 battery, was not expecting it to last that long. Sometimes I have double headers though (2 matches in the same day one after another) so I can’t rely on only one battery, but could always have one extra on the side.
Nice Video , i am Nikon user and i wanted to update to mirrorless z9 or z8 but they are too expensive 😢
Yeah those are not cheap models. Photography in general can be very expensive for sure.
I changed from Nikon dlr to Sony A7r3. Mainly do boxing and events. Thinking of the a92 but need more work?any suggestions ? Many thanks
As a long time Nikon shooter, I can tell you the Z9 and 8 are excellent for sports. The lesser models, Z6ii and 7ii do not do eye tracking particularly well, but they are still useful for sports in the Dynamic modes. Good luck!
I'm having the same dilemma. I'm a Canon shooter fully invested in EF lenses. Are you going to upgrade to RF lenses, or adapt your EF? I'm thinking of the R8 or wait for the R5mk2. Main reason for switching is the focusing. My Canon DSLR has eye detection in live view, but using live view is cumbersome. I find it ok for portraits, but action shots are difficult.
I'll be adapting and keeping my EF lenses, I'll still have a DSLR, and even if I went full mirrorless I'd keep my EF lenses.
For sports photography I wouldn't go for the R8, it doesn't have a mechanical shutter.
Lots of people complain about there not being 3rd party RF glass but these same people ignore that you can get L-SERIES lenses for the EF mount for absolute bargain prices from pros who have switched either to Sony or who have gone all-in on RF glass. The main difference I've heard is weight: the RF 70-200 f/2.8L is much lighter and more compact than the EF versions... but that's offset by the very bulky RF 28-70 f/2L. Used pro-level EF glass is abundant and why I went with Canon when I got back into serious shooting a couple years ago. Best bargain I've gotten so far is a 300mm f/2.8L for USD$1500. Exterior this lens is in "fair" condition: had been used for years by a working pro shooter and it has the battle wear to prove it. But optically it's AMAZING and I'm so glad I went with this strategy for building out my lens lineup.
@@AdamQuinnPhoto Absolutely. My lenses are fine, won't be switching them any time soon :)
@@MLeeMedia I like Rob Samples' video on using EF glass on the R6: ua-cam.com/video/sAor16boISQ/v-deo.html -- the one thing Rob mentions where you might lose a bit on the adapted EF glass is in upper frames/sec. This is something I need to get out and test doing some sports shooting where the action is coming straight at me... but I'm confident that even if adapted L-series EF isn't as fast (frames/sec) as native RF glass the upgrade over my 5Dm3 will be so big I won't care.
@@AdamQuinnPhoto Yeah to be honest I'm not concerned with this, but will need to test it out to see for myself. The upgrade for me will be significant as well. Looking forward to it.
both the R6 and R7 are full frame cameras...
The R7 is most definitely not a full frame camera.
@@MLeeMedia you are correct. I was thinking about the R5. I totally forgot the R7 even existed. 😀 I did not consider it as an option. My mistake
@@SanGioSports No problem Sandro