I subscribed, thank the algorithm. Never even heard of you. It was the next video that played underneath The Joe Budden podcast (for your personal analytics) for some reason, the video is 6 days old. Good vid. I screenshot you so I can unsubscribe for the next week. Working on something.
I'm surprised you saw this! Thank you for the kind words, and really sorry to hear about what happened to you. If I'm not mistaken, there have been some comments here from former students attesting to how great of a human you are. I have a lot of respect for your outlook on life after watching your victim statement. Godspeed.
@@Crumb thank you. I found this video after it was posted in the daily thread on /r/ethfinance where I'm a mod. Great community there. They knew this about me from those years ago. Great job editing by the way. Well done.
Stealing the amount of money a couple has been frugally saving for 30 years of their lives in order to provide their kids with a better life than they had is absolutely deplorable. Getting less time than the amount of time it took for his victims took to accrue this is a kick in the face
It's even worse when you read some of the comments here glorifying what he did and idolizing him. You can handpick out of this comment section who'd shove an elderly woman on the street for a dollar, absolutely nasty.
Craziest part of all this to me is how easy it was to draw a line from the exploits to the people. It wasn't even that they made some small OPSEC mistake and got caught, they literally just put their whole life out there and apparently assumed no one would ever come looking for them.
@@Marcus43256facts i just did 2 years in prison for selling kilos only made 100k and had it confiscated SMH 22 million for only 1 year and a half is fking sweet
@@notquiteog825 lmao bitcoin isn't insured. It's not just about the violence, it's the actual impact of the crime. We are talking about people who cannot retire and will live on social security thanks to this ugly wannabe, versus a robber who often acts out of desperation and almost always gets little to nothing out of it.
I knew a guy who shutdown the entire server system for a school district and he did it from a terminal in the high school library. FBI showed to the school, went to his house and confiscated all of his tech, he was on probation for a good while, the works. One day, someone knocked on his door and found him on the floor, dead from (I'm guessing because he had a past with it) heroin. The kid was a childhood friend and his dad's worst nightmare came true, that one day he'd get a call informaing him his son OD-ed. Guy had the entire world in front of him with his genius level intelligence and he only made it to 27. I miss you, bro.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 What are you on about? Why are there so many weirdo conspiracy theorists in videos like this. Governments aren't disposing of intelligent people unless it's like Pol Pot, and smart people aren't a threat to government - that's exactly what governments want. I probably shouldn't be replying to someone who is either mentally deluded or just trolling, but do you hear yourself?
@@David-ud9ju So you think Pol Pot was smart and the government doesn't want dumb citizens, do you hear yourself. I think you are drinking too much water with fluoride in it or eating too much plastic.
The difference between their sentences is insane. One stole 1.5mil and recieved a 10 year sentence, and another one stole 22mil and recieved a 16 month sentence.
@@alexabadjon4091Not saying it makes sense, but the reason for that is probably because of the charges. Things like illegal possession of firearms, using the firearm to rob people, the actual robbery itself, reckless driving after you escape, evading arrest - possibly assault if someone steps out of line during the robbery, conspiracy, breaking and entering, all that. Because these crimes are digital as opposed to physical, and there usually isn’t a chance to run when the cops show up, there’s way less to pin on them.
I am only 8 minutes in and I had to pause to take the time to say how much I really appreciate the time and detail you have put into telling this story. It is really immersive and captivating, and just, Well Done. Thank you and I hope you get 100x the views cause it deserves it.
"people between the age of 18 to 25, who are living in their mom's basement, existing off uber eats, and all of a sudden, they're instant millionnaires" Holy shit i love the girl at the beginning of the video, clearly a milestone to have her review your cybercrimes
I’m really enjoying these dives into the darker side of the internet being a CIS student. I’m curious, would you consider doing a story or two on white-hat hackers instead of black-hat?
This video really struck a chord with me, because when I was a teenager, I was just like these guys. I just took a different path. I made my money in high school not by working a part time job, but by developing hacks for games such as Counter Strike and selling them. I very easily could have gotten into more nefarious pursuits, but I ended up taking a different path in life, and now I'm nearly done with my undergraduate studies in Computer Science, considering going for my PHD. I'm interested in the fields of cybersecurity, cryptography, and artificial intelligence.
Damn I also started developing cheats for CSGO in high school and made a lot of money while all my friends were working part time and stuff. I bought an Audi S5 with money from my cheats in my last year of HS... Except instead of stopping I continued to learn and eventually made and started selling cheats for other games like Rust, Apex and EFT. I still do it to this day and it's my main source of income and I love doing it haha It's actually legal unlike fraud, but you have a risk of getting sued if you sell too many copies and really piss off the game studio. I believe that it's a relatively legitimate way of making money and can't really be compared to sim swapping. Congrats on your journey though, I tried college but didn't have the patience and motivation for it. Cybersecurity is very lucrative, I got friends who are making really good money in that.
fraud is so grossly under sentenced. he should of easily got 3 decades minimum. to hear that woman talk about how she’s now facing having to work for the rest of her life because of this was heartbreaking. they aren’t even stealing from the extremely wealthy.
@@Forevermade32 yeah and that’s the worst defense, that’s like stealing hundreds of thousands from a bank and saying “they’re gonna get it back” you still stole
@@Forevermade32 no theyre not, its not a bank, bitcoin isnt fdic insured. What theyre gonna get back is maybe a couple hundred a month in restitution assuming these kids bother paying it regularly when they get out
First time seeing any of your videos. I clicked and saw that it was 43 mins long and said no way I'm watching this. I ended up watching the entire thing. You did a great job with this, hope you channel grows because you deserve it
It’s crazy how cyber crimes are still “glorified”. You would think that with all the advancements in technology that these scammers would have enough methods to legally make money online now.
It's crazy that parents go to great lengths to keep their child off the streets and provide them with a good education, just for that child to end up robbing people and going to prison all by sitting behind a screen in the home. It's 🤯🤯🤯
but he didnt grow up with both parents. when you grow up without a dad, the chances of becoming a criminal goes way up, especially if you're a male. im sure if he grew up with both parents who were loving, he wouldn't be where he's at now.
Well.. its the sad reality which is the core behind why people go to crime; genetics. It is a part of their thinking which naturally goes there. And yes this is in all races. All you gotta do is a bit of googling and youll find similar crime gangs all over the world. Similar stupid systems. Similar reasons behind why. Similar horrific ways they torture victims. From east to west. North to south. We are all the same. Except the majority do not go down the wrong path, like these mofos do.
I dont know man they found a way to beat the system, i feel like only the cocky guys got caught but im willing to bet some of them are living a good life
His facial expression tells me he has a secret stash cuz if it was anybody there that knew there end they would cry or have a very concerned facial expression and his gave me “I have a back up for me when I get out so I’m straight just gotta endure this years and I’m free with some saved up money” type of facial expression 😂
Thanks man, kinda felt like I covered everything I wanted to with OSRS. Forced a handful of videos out after that point, just for the UA-cam dollars, but, was super hard to motivate myself. Was time to try to change it up
@@Crumb KiraTV did a similar thing, had a niche he followed and then branched off and it paid off massively. These types of vids from you are great, the quality is fantastic so definitely keep at it if you're enjoying it!
@@Crumb just please make sure if you do have any OSRS vids that you want to make that you make them. I enjoy your new content but still love your osrs content
@@Crumb hey crumb, ive seen you post asking advice on reddit before about branching out your content on this channel, glad to see you doing it! your og OSRS fans will continue to support no matter what man.
This behavior feels especially repulsive as someone who grew up in abject poverty and chose military service as an attempt to build a foundation for my life. I'm left physically disabled and can't imagine even owning my own home, let alone a single extravagance like they threw away so carelessly. To so easily trade one's humanity for extravagant excess, while so many in the world needlessly suffer.
You chose to fight for corporations so that they could make billions off of government contracts and others made billions off of other countries resources leaving yourself disabled. This country was in no need to be defended from anyone, I have no idea why anyone would join the military unless there was an actual invasion on this country...
Crazy to see a face behind the madness that was such a craze as the inception of sim swapping, I was a kid on those forums wishing I could be like these people who cracked the code but as I’ve grown up I thank god I made whatever money I did and went on with my life rather than succumbing to the rabbit hole that seemed to be that life
Its so crazy on close to home the act is, because of lot us who grew up during the internet who are into exploiting and hacking could of went down this path, if we only knew how to.
I’ll never forget when I was doing customer service a lawyer client gave be this advice. “Any email older than 5 years should get deleted cause that’s just evidence.”
I'm surprised many of them barely served any time. Honestly it's pretty disgusting that these guys ruined peoples lives and after a few years will get to go back to living normal lives like nothing happened and for all the feds know they could have stashed some of that stolen money away somewhere.
Usually nonviolent crime doesn't land people with insanely long sentences, as should be the case. People are kept in prison for the purpose of keeping them out of the general public because they would be a threat to the general public. If someone a very dangerous person who could kill or severely disable somebody, then it makes sense to sentence that person more harshly than someone who nonviolently stole from someone else without causing any trauma.
The funny thing is he still stayed as a skid to the end and did more social engineering than anything else. Can't code his way through and consistently had to buy tools to do it. The exploits he used isn't found by him, often ideas he found somewhere else. Even if his sentence wasn't heavy, I struggle to see how he would do "good" even after his release. You can't just get off this kind of high, especially when they are gonna be treated way worse by society after jail.
Doc is a homie. He turned his life around and I respect that a lot. Must be funny having something along the lines of "stole $14,000,000 from companies due to my technical prowess" in his CV
You can turn your life around and not be an asshole in the process, he might be computer smart, but he clearly is dumb and lacks real life knowledge, anyone with a working brain wouldn’t be posting about the stolen things
@@distressed444 well it took them a long time to get that amount of money. In my experience those people tend to be the most stupid in their savings oddly enough. Well unless its literally saving in cash. Then theyll do fine
I graduated with a 4.5 gpa and i had over 100 absences in each class. I didn’t cheat either. I’d go for a couple days gather up all my work turn it in and then go to work. Passing tests is the main way to get high marks. If you’re good at tests , then getting really good grades is easy af. I would’ve skipped more in college if they didn’t take away points for missing class. US education system is so stupid. I’ve learned way more online or going to libraries.
Excellent video essay! Compilation, editing, narration, pacing, etc. sheer perfection. The best part is that I learned and understood so much on a topic with which I was previously completely unfamiliar. Looking forward to future videos on this channel!
This was amazing. I thought i knew this story already but you had 60% more information and i was hooked. You also did great humanizing everyone. Only thing that really infuriates me with the prosecution is how Joel got his 10 years which was deserved but then his partner who stole 22 million got just 18 months?? Thats wild.
Lessons learned: 1. Don't report crimes that involve goods bought with stolen money. 2. Don't tell all your personal life on social media especially where your going. 3. Don't flaunt millions of dollars all over the web. 4. Don't make posts about illegal activities on hacking or posting videos under for educational purposes only. 5. Don't do what they did. (Class dismissed) you all get an A+ exams on Friday everyone is required to study no excuses.
Just wanna say, I’ve watched you for a couple years now and I for one completely support this transition to new content or at-least diversifying your stuff. Keep it up dude
Brother, please keep these videos up. Your videos have improved so much and the amount of passion and time you put into the videos really are expressed in it. Keep this shit up, man.
Cheers man I appreciate you as always :) Glad you're still enjoying them even in the move away from RS cotent. Have been trying to improve drastically, really nice to see it noticed :D
You did a great job with this story. This guy seemed to care less about stealing millions of hard working money from people. Zero empathy. Did not even try to make his wrongs right. Unbelievable, wouldn’t tell what he did with or hid the money.
Dude I have to give you props for the smooth ad transition. Edit: how did the guy who stole 22 million get one of the lowest sentences?? That’s crazy man. I think 22 million will be worth 14 to 24 months in jail lmao His sentence should’ve been stiffer. All of their sentences should’ve been stiffer. They ruined peoples lives. They stole from peoples retirement and potentially set them back 30 years.
So one guy stole $1.5m and sentenced to 10 years another stole $22m and just got 18months? Huh? Surely $22m is a greater sum than $1.5m - Am I missing something?
bro I'm always waiting for your videos, they are so entertaining and the format is so great.. Quite unfortunate you upload so rarely but waiting truly pays off. Keep the great work up. I loved watching your videos even when I was sick and I absolutely can't stand anything when I am sick so it just shows how good the content is
This video was so well made and was kind of a rush to watch. Imagine being a young kid dead broke all your life and become an instant millionaire. Definitely crazy, appreciate the research, time, and editing that went into this, it's very well made and I would love to see more content like this.
But then he had to be a typical zoomer and make it obvious, flashing all the money for instagram, even going as far as to flex an obviously stolen/purchased username
With Truglia, I think they only had proof of $1 million stolen but plead guilty to $20 as a part of a plea deal so his victims could file suit for the amount they actually think he stole.
Love the videos involving the OG comm… used to be super into usernames this stuff as a kid/teen so super cool to hear about some of the big names in your videos. Still have a few nice @s from back then but the market just got too expensive for my broke teenage self. Keep it up dude. Edit: I’ve never been a thief like these guys, I was a small fry who had a small collection and just bought and sold. I’ve been scammed although LOL
Crumb to the moon, you really got something good with this documentary style. This video was great, Joel got off easy in my opinion, he’s going to come out of prison with a few hundred grand and a lot of infamy. He destroyed so many lives, the money he stole wasn’t FDIC insured, those people lost it all so some kid could wear a stupid Bitcoin chain and get robbed in LA.
It's crazy, how these people are often so stupid. The way to not get caught was just being ever so slightly more careful. But, well, I guess that's good for the general public.
posting all the expensive things they buy on social media where it can be easily tracked and using their personal phones with their own personal mails and photos on it to do the crime LMAO
@@CutMCOC Exactly, like what? And why do all always use their actual email/name/address or whatever, when they plan to do stuff like this? I mean thanks, I guess, but why be so dumdum?
Imagine being a criminal that stole money. And then someone else comes along and steals your money. And then you have the audacity to file a police report for money that got stolen that you stole in the first place. SMH. Pure Genius.
Love that you're keeping up with the non-rs content dude, breaking through that transition barrier is tough. S+ video 😎 I remember reading about the selena hack on HF as it happened... shit was wild
If only these kids had a street smart friend who could have taught them what normal crime is. Pro Tip Future Hackers: Low profile, DO NOT Live stream anything flashy, and NEVER tell anyone where your going and give them a full Monetary inventory of everything you have on you.
Hey man - just wanted to say this was a great documentary and very well put together - really enjoyed it. I'm going to watch more of your stuff now. Keep up the great work!
Holy shit thank you for this banger bro. Got a long boring shift today and u just helped me kill a good chunk also I love how in depth you got with all the details of the hacks. These ppl are crazy for even recording them doing their shit and put it on UA-cam lmfao. last time I UA-cam’d how to get premiere pro free it’s 99% phishing unlike the good ole days it was more 60/40 good to bad ratio xd
Lol, if they hacked my phone, they'd think there was some kind of bug or error. They'd be like "why hasn't this phone gotten any texts, calls or replies on any of the dating apps he's on in the last week? We must have messed something up!" Nope, that's just my life.
I haven't watched your videos in a long time but this got recommended to me and I just got back into watching all the videos you've posted since I've been gone, please keep up the good work this is some of the best content on UA-cam!
Did you listen to the lyrics before segwaying your sponsors' earbuds? 🤣 "Your raps got got no bars like a sim swap" "That would sound good on a pair of Raycons"
Honestly, we would call this awesome if they were movie characters. I have mad respect for their smarts. When I was 18 I was picking my nose in my room, not hacking billions. Are they assholes for this? Yes 100% but I still respect their incredible talent and hacking prowess
Stealing from people though, especially people that earned their money through hard work and merit isn't exactly admirable. With the amount of knowledge he and his friends have he could have easily had a lucrative career for the rest of his life.
I use to make my own USB mods for the 360 and made my own patches for my JTAG. I was hooked once i learned how to do this but i never did any of this. dude had balls lol, so i went with reverse engineering ECU's. Good vid
Stealing someone’s life-long wealth in their 50’s and 60’s is the same thing as stealing all the years it took to accumulate that wealth…. At least 30-40 years have been robbed from the victims… he should receive a life sentence. 25-life minimum. This is so messed up. I wouldn’t blame a single hair on the head of the man who kills this kid out of vengeance.
This is such a gross oversight by the FCC and cellular companies in my opinion. It's well known smart phones are a diary of our lives with details we might not even know through meta data and such information should be protected at a minimum from predators (yes the irony meta data is sold frequently without you knowing by your provider is not lost on me). There should be an option to have mandatory rules in place that cannot be waivered regardless of the person or "circumstances". Humans make mistakes but concrete policies turns mistakes into negligence and could carry enough weight for major companies to share liability in damages. FCC can see if a transmission is taking place in California and all of the sudden is in Massachusetts. Immediately deny service until those concrete policies can be satisfied. I had an additional role as an RTO while I was infantry and learned a lot of what the FCC monitors/regulates. This is well within thier means and I promise if it became so burdensome to handle magically laws to prevent it happening so easily start making their way through the system. It's depressing knowing those victims will never see a fraction of their loss and even if they managed to pay the restitution back what good is it twenty thirty or forty years later? It's eaten by inflation. I'm not excusing the hackers but hold the cellular providers financially responsible but THEY get paid the restitution and I'm sure it would sort itself out. My first deployment to Afghanistan I tried using my debit card at an official US px and immediately denied. Despite me filling out forms informing my bank of my temporary assignment down to the COP (combat outpost size of a local park) and FOB (forward operating base it's like a small city) I was denied service, card locked, and only restored because I had my father as a secondary on the account to recover it in person. I guess I'm rambling at this point but this is negligent and please folks don't store financial data on your phone. Not even your banks app. Your phone is so insecure it's unreal. Chances are it will never happen to you but when it does it will be at the worst possible time.
If and when he gets out, i wouldnt be surprised if something mysteriously "happens" to him..... Any other ethnicity doing this no matter the age would have gotten the book thrown at them and would never see day light again!
well they did recover a bit of the money, so maybe he didnt ruin lives completely. And the lawyers job was to defend the guy.. what do you expect him to say
An immigrant from Puerto Rico? I didn’t always put my best foot forward when I was in school but seeing as though I’m Puerto Rican I should and do know that Puerto Ricans are not immigrants. We are American. America owns PR. lol. That’s a small thing though. Video is great!
The days of modding Cod WaW zombies lobbies were some of the best days. It was also not like when you did it multiplayer, which players usually hated you when you did it. When you modded a zombies game, from what I remember, everyone would get hyped.
Who could've guessed the people hacking billion dollar company security to make mario yell "oh yeah" like the Kool aid Man would ALSO have the hacking skills necessary to break into more serious security.
When she said she has no retirement i felt so bad for her... Think about woring for 30+ years and maybe have 10-15 years left to retirement that you saved for. And all those years stolen in some hours. Totally devistating. If you guys are saving money in cryptos please use harddrives for them. 🙏
“Kids do things to impress their friends” Yeah, like wearing their dad’s rolex at school. Not stealing multiple family’s life-savings. 10 years is honestly insulting to the victims that had decades of hard work stolen from them.
And yet all the bankers that did much worse before the subprime mortgage meltdown were given a free pass. Frankly, unless we go after the much greater criminals like the bankers were, we’re just hypocrites that enrich established criminals while ostracizing outsiders.
@@Crumb I really am not joking you gained a new subscriber really impressed if you could at some point consider doing more videos on other crazy stories tied to that forum that would be quite interesting! Maybe even the downfall of og users?? I dont know keep up the great work you deserve way more subscribers
This was soooo entertaining. Thank you. It’s crazy how they all contributed and then some left with only 48 months while others have to be locked up for 10 years. Rough. But they had there fun…
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I subscribed, thank the algorithm. Never even heard of you. It was the next video that played underneath The Joe Budden podcast (for your personal analytics) for some reason, the video is 6 days old. Good vid. I screenshot you so I can unsubscribe for the next week. Working on something.
Do the Raycons have location tracking?
@GeTTeM GoTTeM Entertainment [#GGE] Haha, I used my own handle Crumb because I didn't want to drag someone random into the video.
Hasn't your sponsor's creator been caught up in several bitcoin scams? Lmao. Ray J.. Come on man.
Love your videos still dude.
I'm one of the victims in the documentary. Thanks for putting together this story for others to learn about the devastation this group has caused.
I'm surprised you saw this! Thank you for the kind words, and really sorry to hear about what happened to you. If I'm not mistaken, there have been some comments here from former students attesting to how great of a human you are. I have a lot of respect for your outlook on life after watching your victim statement. Godspeed.
@@Crumb thank you. I found this video after it was posted in the daily thread on /r/ethfinance where I'm a mod. Great community there. They knew this about me from those years ago.
Great job editing by the way. Well done.
Did you ever get anything back?
@@jujhar. No.
@@JeremiahNichol sorry to hear what happend
Stealing the amount of money a couple has been frugally saving for 30 years of their lives in order to provide their kids with a better life than they had is absolutely deplorable. Getting less time than the amount of time it took for his victims took to accrue this is a kick in the face
It's even worse when you read some of the comments here glorifying what he did and idolizing him. You can handpick out of this comment section who'd shove an elderly woman on the street for a dollar, absolutely nasty.
I think they all deserved 2 life sentences as a minimum. They should pay for their misdeeds
If you invest millions in crypto and don’t know how to cold store it you not very smart
@@stevezark2152 doesn’t mean they deserve to be robbed
Do these people get their money back? And if so, is a the exact amount they lost ?
Craziest part of all this to me is how easy it was to draw a line from the exploits to the people. It wasn't even that they made some small OPSEC mistake and got caught, they literally just put their whole life out there and apparently assumed no one would ever come looking for them.
I think the craziest part is the dude who stole the most (22m) got the least time in jail (18 months)
clark kent superman vibes
probably gave all of it up@@Marcus43256
@@Marcus43256facts i just did 2 years in prison for selling kilos only made 100k and had it confiscated SMH 22 million for only 1 year and a half is fking sweet
@@SpinnDaBlock63rdKstop lying you didn’t even break 50k lmfao
Dude was flabbergasted that anyone would rob him at gun point lmao it's exactly what he's been doing they just had the balls to do it in person.
He was doing that but worse because people don’t carry their millions in their wallets
Ah then it isn't exactly what he was doing.
Lmfao nah bro. Pointing a loaded firearm at someone is definitely way more fucked up than just taking their shit through hacking
@@subzerace4252 trash take. Gun point robbery is a violent crime, hacking is not. Both are covered by insurance in many cases.
@@notquiteog825 lmao bitcoin isn't insured. It's not just about the violence, it's the actual impact of the crime. We are talking about people who cannot retire and will live on social security thanks to this ugly wannabe, versus a robber who often acts out of desperation and almost always gets little to nothing out of it.
I knew a guy who shutdown the entire server system for a school district and he did it from a terminal in the high school library. FBI showed to the school, went to his house and confiscated all of his tech, he was on probation for a good while, the works. One day, someone knocked on his door and found him on the floor, dead from (I'm guessing because he had a past with it) heroin. The kid was a childhood friend and his dad's worst nightmare came true, that one day he'd get a call informaing him his son OD-ed. Guy had the entire world in front of him with his genius level intelligence and he only made it to 27.
I miss you, bro.
Smart people are a threat to the government, so governments often dispose of them if they can't recruit them.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 What are you on about? Why are there so many weirdo conspiracy theorists in videos like this. Governments aren't disposing of intelligent people unless it's like Pol Pot, and smart people aren't a threat to government - that's exactly what governments want. I probably shouldn't be replying to someone who is either mentally deluded or just trolling, but do you hear yourself?
@@David-ud9ju Should really look into what the CIA is like, just do a small dive into what the CIA has done 😭
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@@David-ud9ju So you think Pol Pot was smart and the government doesn't want dumb citizens, do you hear yourself.
I think you are drinking too much water with fluoride in it or eating too much plastic.
The difference between their sentences is insane. One stole 1.5mil and recieved a 10 year sentence, and another one stole 22mil and recieved a 16 month sentence.
And than u rob a bank, get 10 k and get a life
It’s called white privilege, a beautiful thing it is.
@@alexabadjon4091Not saying it makes sense, but the reason for that is probably because of the charges. Things like illegal possession of firearms, using the firearm to rob people, the actual robbery itself, reckless driving after you escape, evading arrest - possibly assault if someone steps out of line during the robbery, conspiracy, breaking and entering, all that. Because these crimes are digital as opposed to physical, and there usually isn’t a chance to run when the cops show up, there’s way less to pin on them.
The research you put into this is nuts, love seeing the OGusers rabbit hole explored.
i’d like to see that too
@@suggestied it’s in the video lmfaooo
fr this was cool to see
More user communities on dark web explained. What was that about social security numbers for $3?
same! being one myself
I am only 8 minutes in and I had to pause to take the time to say how much I really appreciate the time and detail you have put into telling this story. It is really immersive and captivating, and just, Well Done. Thank you and I hope you get 100x the views cause it deserves it.
You're going to really enjoy the end :) thanks man
Lol, calm down.
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10 years!!! and the guy that stole 22 mil got 18 months!!!... WTF, there are people serving 20+ years for smoking weed!!!
Depends on the time of the elites agenda. Does it help or support their cause at the time
20 years for smoking weed , u stupid to say that
The war on drugs is crazy man
No there’s not 😂
he was white
"people between the age of 18 to 25, who are living in their mom's basement, existing off uber eats, and all of a sudden, they're instant millionnaires" Holy shit i love the girl at the beginning of the video, clearly a milestone to have her review your cybercrimes
Deputy District Attorney Erin West, prosecutes all the gangsters of the interwebs
she mad cos she broke fr
@@MarkosDGE she could prob use her knowledge to do the same thing yet she doesn’t. Id say she ain’t very broke
@@nayr ?
@@nayr oh so you old as fuck now huh?
Hope you guys enjoy this one :)
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I’m really enjoying these dives into the darker side of the internet being a CIS student. I’m curious, would you consider doing a story or two on white-hat hackers instead of black-hat?
10/10
we love it. we need moar!
Yup I did
This video really struck a chord with me, because when I was a teenager, I was just like these guys. I just took a different path. I made my money in high school not by working a part time job, but by developing hacks for games such as Counter Strike and selling them. I very easily could have gotten into more nefarious pursuits, but I ended up taking a different path in life, and now I'm nearly done with my undergraduate studies in Computer Science, considering going for my PHD. I'm interested in the fields of cybersecurity, cryptography, and artificial intelligence.
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Nun wrong with selling cheats game is game
Why you lying up here bro
Damn I also started developing cheats for CSGO in high school and made a lot of money while all my friends were working part time and stuff. I bought an Audi S5 with money from my cheats in my last year of HS... Except instead of stopping I continued to learn and eventually made and started selling cheats for other games like Rust, Apex and EFT. I still do it to this day and it's my main source of income and I love doing it haha
It's actually legal unlike fraud, but you have a risk of getting sued if you sell too many copies and really piss off the game studio. I believe that it's a relatively legitimate way of making money and can't really be compared to sim swapping. Congrats on your journey though, I tried college but didn't have the patience and motivation for it. Cybersecurity is very lucrative, I got friends who are making really good money in that.
script kiddy@@Madness1337
fraud is so grossly under sentenced. he should of easily got 3 decades minimum. to hear that woman talk about how she’s now facing having to work for the rest of her life because of this was heartbreaking. they aren’t even stealing from the extremely wealthy.
The biggest fraudsters work in banks & congress that's why
They’re getting that money back
@@Forevermade32 yeah and that’s the worst defense, that’s like stealing hundreds of thousands from a bank and saying “they’re gonna get it back” you still stole
@@Forevermade32 no theyre not, its not a bank, bitcoin isnt fdic insured. What theyre gonna get back is maybe a couple hundred a month in restitution assuming these kids bother paying it regularly when they get out
@@MakingPeopleMadForFun eat the rich
First time seeing any of your videos. I clicked and saw that it was 43 mins long and said no way I'm watching this. I ended up watching the entire thing. You did a great job with this, hope you channel grows because you deserve it
Ay thank you for the kind words :) Glad you enjoyed it
@@Crumb 👾
It’s crazy how cyber crimes are still “glorified”. You would think that with all the advancements in technology that these scammers would have enough methods to legally make money online now.
Because we like the underdogs, the outcast of society that we could relate to. Why would I help a society that made me the way I am?
@@The_Lovey_Informeroo ur edgy
It's crazy that parents go to great lengths to keep their child off the streets and provide them with a good education, just for that child to end up robbing people and going to prison all by sitting behind a screen in the home. It's 🤯🤯🤯
For real you can really become a bad kid outdoor or indoor nowadays
but he didnt grow up with both parents. when you grow up without a dad, the chances of becoming a criminal goes way up, especially if you're a male. im sure if he grew up with both parents who were loving, he wouldn't be where he's at now.
Well.. its the sad reality which is the core behind why people go to crime; genetics. It is a part of their thinking which naturally goes there. And yes this is in all races. All you gotta do is a bit of googling and youll find similar crime gangs all over the world. Similar stupid systems. Similar reasons behind why. Similar horrific ways they torture victims. From east to west. North to south. We are all the same. Except the majority do not go down the wrong path, like these mofos do.
I dont know man they found a way to beat the system, i feel like only the cocky guys got caught but im willing to bet some of them are living a good life
@@revit4909facts one I made my first 50-100k I’m lookin at legal money and hella investments
18 months for stealing 22 mills is crazy yet the Asian b4 took 1.5 mill & got a decade smh 🤦🏾♀️
Its not about the amount they stole , its about how they stole it.
@@alphaone321 okay so how did he steal it, what was so different about the way he stole it vs everyone else. he still stole it wtf?
His facial expression tells me he has a secret stash cuz if it was anybody there that knew there end they would cry or have a very concerned facial expression and his gave me “I have a back up for me when I get out so I’m straight just gotta endure this years and I’m free with some saved up money” type of facial expression 😂
I can barley watch 10 minute yt vids but i watched all 50 of this one! Well done
I love that your branching out on different content, crumb you have the talent to make it big man 💪
Thanks man, kinda felt like I covered everything I wanted to with OSRS. Forced a handful of videos out after that point, just for the UA-cam dollars, but, was super hard to motivate myself. Was time to try to change it up
@@Crumb KiraTV did a similar thing, had a niche he followed and then branched off and it paid off massively. These types of vids from you are great, the quality is fantastic so definitely keep at it if you're enjoying it!
@@Crumb sometimes you gotta change things up in life, no doubt. i look forward to whatever content you decide to put out!
@@Crumb just please make sure if you do have any OSRS vids that you want to make that you make them. I enjoy your new content but still love your osrs content
@@Crumb hey crumb, ive seen you post asking advice on reddit before about branching out your content on this channel, glad to see you doing it! your og OSRS fans will continue to support no matter what man.
moral of the story get more than 22 million and you’ll have a great lawyer 😂
really good one
This behavior feels especially repulsive as someone who grew up in abject poverty and chose military service as an attempt to build a foundation for my life. I'm left physically disabled and can't imagine even owning my own home, let alone a single extravagance like they threw away so carelessly. To so easily trade one's humanity for extravagant excess, while so many in the world needlessly suffer.
Take care, bro.
I’m so sorry 😞 so much respect and appreciation for your efforts and service
Absolute facts
I wish I went to army but I own a house so I gues life works
You chose to fight for corporations so that they could make billions off of government contracts and others made billions off of other countries resources leaving yourself disabled.
This country was in no need to be defended from anyone, I have no idea why anyone would join the military unless there was an actual invasion on this country...
Crazy to see a face behind the madness that was such a craze as the inception of sim swapping, I was a kid on those forums wishing I could be like these people who cracked the code but as I’ve grown up I thank god I made whatever money I did and went on with my life rather than succumbing to the rabbit hole that seemed to be that life
You wouldn’t have been as stupid as them. Would you have been?
u are a coward.
Real
Its so crazy on close to home the act is, because of lot us who grew up during the internet who are into exploiting and hacking could of went down this path, if we only knew how to.
I’ll never forget when I was doing customer service a lawyer client gave be this advice. “Any email older than 5 years should get deleted cause that’s just evidence.”
I'm surprised many of them barely served any time. Honestly it's pretty disgusting that these guys ruined peoples lives and after a few years will get to go back to living normal lives like nothing happened and for all the feds know they could have stashed some of that stolen money away somewhere.
Usually nonviolent crime doesn't land people with insanely long sentences, as should be the case. People are kept in prison for the purpose of keeping them out of the general public because they would be a threat to the general public. If someone a very dangerous person who could kill or severely disable somebody, then it makes sense to sentence that person more harshly than someone who nonviolently stole from someone else without causing any trauma.
The funny thing is he still stayed as a skid to the end and did more social engineering than anything else. Can't code his way through and consistently had to buy tools to do it. The exploits he used isn't found by him, often ideas he found somewhere else. Even if his sentence wasn't heavy, I struggle to see how he would do "good" even after his release. You can't just get off this kind of high, especially when they are gonna be treated way worse by society after jail.
Yea…he’s out and doing the same shit.
dude he knows how to code lmao
@@sfssffaf782 Okay? that isn't a big accomplishment.
Yeah it is, do you know Paul Le Roux?
Doc is a homie. He turned his life around and I respect that a lot.
Must be funny having something along the lines of "stole $14,000,000 from companies due to my technical prowess" in his CV
sure, on the surface he is playing nice guy, on the inside he is the same piece of chit he always was, karma will get him
You can turn your life around and not be an asshole in the process, he might be computer smart, but he clearly is dumb and lacks real life knowledge, anyone with a working brain wouldn’t be posting about the stolen things
The phone companies should absolutely be liable and responsible for those lost funds
who tf puts their whole savings on crypto lmaoooo. disaster waiting to happen
@@distressed444 well it took them a long time to get that amount of money. In my experience those people tend to be the most stupid in their savings oddly enough. Well unless its literally saving in cash. Then theyll do fine
Imagine how bad your high school must be if you can become valedictorian while hardly being able to write a complete sentence
I graduated with a 4.5 gpa and i had over 100 absences in each class. I didn’t cheat either. I’d go for a couple days gather up all my work turn it in and then go to work. Passing tests is the main way to get high marks. If you’re good at tests , then getting really good grades is easy af. I would’ve skipped more in college if they didn’t take away points for missing class. US education system is so stupid. I’ve learned way more online or going to libraries.
Wtf does this mean?
41:23 Nicholas Truglia's lawyer should be inducted into the hall of fame of lawyers ngl
Exactly what i was thinking 😂
Excellent video essay! Compilation, editing, narration, pacing, etc. sheer perfection. The best part is that I learned and understood so much on a topic with which I was previously completely unfamiliar. Looking forward to future videos on this channel!
This was so well put together. Im beyond impressed. I even was just listening to this at work wasnt even able to watch the whole thing!
dam you know its old when they're bragging about a 1080ti
crazy example of how easily some people can get lost in the sauce 🙃
You’re soo well educated about the topics you talk about. I love it
This was amazing. I thought i knew this story already but you had 60% more information and i was hooked. You also did great humanizing everyone. Only thing that really infuriates me with the prosecution is how Joel got his 10 years which was deserved but then his partner who stole 22 million got just 18 months?? Thats wild.
Lessons learned: 1. Don't report crimes that involve goods bought with stolen money. 2. Don't tell all your personal life on social media especially where your going. 3. Don't flaunt millions of dollars all over the web. 4. Don't make posts about illegal activities on hacking or posting videos under for educational purposes only. 5. Don't do what they did. (Class dismissed) you all get an A+ exams on Friday everyone is required to study no excuses.
Just wanna say, I’ve watched you for a couple years now and I for one completely support this transition to new content or at-least diversifying your stuff. Keep it up dude
I’m here from your osrs community and bro these are so interesting! Listened to a few of these at work and I’m hooked
Brother, please keep these videos up. Your videos have improved so much and the amount of passion and time you put into the videos really are expressed in it. Keep this shit up, man.
Cheers man I appreciate you as always :) Glad you're still enjoying them even in the move away from RS cotent. Have been trying to improve drastically, really nice to see it noticed :D
@@Crumb I'm here for the creator and what he's passionate about. Luckily for me, the content he's creating I'm just as interested in.
You did a great job with this story. This guy seemed to care less about stealing millions of hard working money from people. Zero empathy. Did not even try to make his wrongs right. Unbelievable, wouldn’t tell what he did with or hid the money.
That's what you get for investing in crypto. FDIC straight outta there.
This was an incredible video. Crumb is unmatched when it comes to the details and work that goes into researching this.
Dude I have to give you props for the smooth ad transition.
Edit: how did the guy who stole 22 million get one of the lowest sentences?? That’s crazy man. I think 22 million will be worth 14 to 24 months in jail lmao
His sentence should’ve been stiffer. All of their sentences should’ve been stiffer. They ruined peoples lives. They stole from peoples retirement and potentially set them back 30 years.
Seems about white
because hes a young white boy who probably snitched, there is no other justifiable reason why.
He probably gave up the money like the doc dude
24 months? 14 months????????????????????????
just shows how judges are more lenient when they see whites in front of them
So one guy stole $1.5m and sentenced to 10 years another stole $22m and just got 18months? Huh? Surely $22m is a greater sum than $1.5m - Am I missing something?
$1 lawyer vs. $1000 lawyer
Very good documentary. I've heard of sim swapping but don't know anything about it. This was a great story dude ty for putting it all together
bro I'm always waiting for your videos, they are so entertaining and the format is so great.. Quite unfortunate you upload so rarely but waiting truly pays off. Keep the great work up.
I loved watching your videos even when I was sick and I absolutely can't stand anything when I am sick so it just shows how good the content is
This video was so well made and was kind of a rush to watch. Imagine being a young kid dead broke all your life and become an instant millionaire. Definitely crazy, appreciate the research, time, and editing that went into this, it's very well made and I would love to see more content like this.
I'd suspect "lottery winner" lol
But then he had to be a typical zoomer and make it obvious, flashing all the money for instagram, even going as far as to flex an obviously stolen/purchased username
@@stevens1-o7s 😂
@stevenscummy1458 That's typical of people at like every age lmao
Why do these guys think they'll never get caught is beyond me. It's just a matter of time. I'd rather live my regular life and never go jail.
We need more of these. This video is one I’d call a major success. Lol
Extremely well put together! Also 22 mil stolen and 2 years? Damn
yooooo, thats what im on! 22mil will buy you one hell of a lawyer i guess
With Truglia, I think they only had proof of $1 million stolen but plead guilty to $20 as a part of a plea deal so his victims could file suit for the amount they actually think he stole.
✡️
Look at his nose
because hes white and snitched
You need to keep doing these videoes, they are really interesting to Watch. Good quality!!!!
Love the videos involving the OG comm… used to be super into usernames this stuff as a kid/teen so super cool to hear about some of the big names in your videos. Still have a few nice @s from back then but the market just got too expensive for my broke teenage self. Keep it up dude.
Edit: I’ve never been a thief like these guys, I was a small fry who had a small collection and just bought and sold. I’ve been scammed although LOL
hello fellow og user. Also been a com kid since ogu’s inception. So crazy to see these videos popping up
this shit is crazy for dropping
I’ve also been involved a lot with OGU. Still own some… sold and bought myself aswell. Crazy to see where they went with this.
Crumb to the moon, you really got something good with this documentary style. This video was great, Joel got off easy in my opinion, he’s going to come out of prison with a few hundred grand and a lot of infamy. He destroyed so many lives, the money he stole wasn’t FDIC insured, those people lost it all so some kid could wear a stupid Bitcoin chain and get robbed in LA.
I don’t know anything about writing code but my favorite “hack” is ad-blocker!
It's crazy, how these people are often so stupid. The way to not get caught was just being ever so slightly more careful. But, well, I guess that's good for the general public.
posting all the expensive things they buy on social media where it can be easily tracked and using their personal phones with their own personal mails and photos on it to do the crime LMAO
@@CutMCOC Exactly, like what? And why do all always use their actual email/name/address or whatever, when they plan to do stuff like this? I mean thanks, I guess, but why be so dumdum?
@invertfriend they're kids who got rich from cybercrime,so of course they were stupid
“Most you rappers got no bars like a sim swap” is actually cold
Put me on
@@Lauriston10sim swap by lil beamed 😭
This must be the second best advertisement i've seen
Legit 60 minutes worth content.. incredible. Checked multiple times to make sure you were the same guy that does osrs vids 😂
Haha cheers man
Aren’t the carrier companies liable in the SIM swapping? There needs to be at least some security questions.
There are security quesitons
Imagine being a criminal that stole money. And then someone else comes along and steals your money. And then you have the audacity to file a police report for money that got stolen that you stole in the first place. SMH. Pure Genius.
Love that you're keeping up with the non-rs content dude, breaking through that transition barrier is tough. S+ video 😎
I remember reading about the selena hack on HF as it happened... shit was wild
If only these kids had a street smart friend who could have taught them what normal crime is.
Pro Tip Future Hackers: Low profile, DO NOT Live stream anything flashy, and NEVER tell anyone where your going and give them a full Monetary inventory of everything you have on you.
They're kids who got rich from cybercrime. So of course they're going to be stupid
Lol that's just common sense
Hey man - just wanted to say this was a great documentary and very well put together - really enjoyed it. I'm going to watch more of your stuff now. Keep up the great work!
Holy shit thank you for this banger bro. Got a long boring shift today and u just helped me kill a good chunk also I love how in depth you got with all the details of the hacks. These ppl are crazy for even recording them doing their shit and put it on UA-cam lmfao. last time I UA-cam’d how to get premiere pro free it’s 99% phishing unlike the good ole days it was more 60/40 good to bad ratio xd
Cheers man :) Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve watched this multiple times, great work.
great work man, love the different content. This has great potential for you to make it big.
I appreciate that!
Dude who stole the most dollars got the least sentence of 18 months . He must have got a pretty good lawyer
41:26 my man Nicholas lawyer got a pay day. 😂
How horrible for all the victims, but I have to say, it’s absolutely fascinating.
insane ad transition
Right lmaoo
Lol, if they hacked my phone, they'd think there was some kind of bug or error. They'd be like "why hasn't this phone gotten any texts, calls or replies on any of the dating apps he's on in the last week? We must have messed something up!" Nope, that's just my life.
I haven't watched your videos in a long time but this got recommended to me and I just got back into watching all the videos you've posted since I've been gone, please keep up the good work this is some of the best content on UA-cam!
Welcome back Snowy, nice to see your name again :)
Bro looks like a character from Bob's Burgers.
Did you listen to the lyrics before segwaying your sponsors' earbuds? 🤣
"Your raps got got no bars like a sim swap"
"That would sound good on a pair of Raycons"
Honestly, we would call this awesome if they were movie characters. I have mad respect for their smarts. When I was 18 I was picking my nose in my room, not hacking billions. Are they assholes for this? Yes 100% but I still respect their incredible talent and hacking prowess
@Christopher Jacobs no fun in that, only corporate bullshit.
This is pretty low understanding script kiddy level type dumb guy
@@wqsuuhhdrvjj no tech company pays its employees a million a year
Stealing from people though, especially people that earned their money through hard work and merit isn't exactly admirable. With the amount of knowledge he and his friends have he could have easily had a lucrative career for the rest of his life.
@@robbytty should have just stolen from big businesses instead
I loveee watching you. And thank you for doing all this,appreciated for real!
I use to make my own USB mods for the 360 and made my own patches for my JTAG. I was hooked once i learned how to do this but i never did any of this. dude had balls lol, so i went with reverse engineering ECU's.
Good vid
Stealing someone’s life-long wealth in their 50’s and 60’s is the same thing as stealing all the years it took to accumulate that wealth…. At least 30-40 years have been robbed from the victims… he should receive a life sentence. 25-life minimum. This is so messed up. I wouldn’t blame a single hair on the head of the man who kills this kid out of vengeance.
Life sentence? Thank God you are not in the judicial system. Remember, incarceration is about rehabilitation first.
@@slashnagy6 so yooour the guy letting all the violent criminals free. 🤣 Matt Walsh would have a field day.
@@Zxtx5Kim-sw5ep *you’re. And how was this guy a violent criminal?
I love these types of videos Crumb.
Me too :)
It was so satisfying to see that clip of Joel so shaken up after being robbed. Doesn’t feel so good to be on the receiving end of it, huh?
I love how ruining 40 peoples life savings is deemed not as ‘bad’ as a violent offense smh 🚮
this just keeps getting more and more insane. Props to this research and investigation.
also the fact he got caught in that fit... bro needed to be bullied more in school.
This is such a gross oversight by the FCC and cellular companies in my opinion. It's well known smart phones are a diary of our lives with details we might not even know through meta data and such information should be protected at a minimum from predators (yes the irony meta data is sold frequently without you knowing by your provider is not lost on me). There should be an option to have mandatory rules in place that cannot be waivered regardless of the person or "circumstances". Humans make mistakes but concrete policies turns mistakes into negligence and could carry enough weight for major companies to share liability in damages. FCC can see if a transmission is taking place in California and all of the sudden is in Massachusetts. Immediately deny service until those concrete policies can be satisfied. I had an additional role as an RTO while I was infantry and learned a lot of what the FCC monitors/regulates. This is well within thier means and I promise if it became so burdensome to handle magically laws to prevent it happening so easily start making their way through the system. It's depressing knowing those victims will never see a fraction of their loss and even if they managed to pay the restitution back what good is it twenty thirty or forty years later? It's eaten by inflation. I'm not excusing the hackers but hold the cellular providers financially responsible but THEY get paid the restitution and I'm sure it would sort itself out. My first deployment to Afghanistan I tried using my debit card at an official US px and immediately denied. Despite me filling out forms informing my bank of my temporary assignment down to the COP (combat outpost size of a local park) and FOB (forward operating base it's like a small city) I was denied service, card locked, and only restored because I had my father as a secondary on the account to recover it in person. I guess I'm rambling at this point but this is negligent and please folks don't store financial data on your phone. Not even your banks app. Your phone is so insecure it's unreal. Chances are it will never happen to you but when it does it will be at the worst possible time.
the nerve of that lawyer to say 10 years was too much. he RUINED so many innocent peoples lives. he should've got life in my opinion.
If and when he gets out, i wouldnt be surprised if something mysteriously "happens" to him..... Any other ethnicity doing this no matter the age would have gotten the book thrown at them and would never see day light again!
@@jennifergilkey the white kid got 18 months and he stole the most money out of everyone LMAO
well they did recover a bit of the money, so maybe he didnt ruin lives completely. And the lawyers job was to defend the guy.. what do you expect him to say
An immigrant from Puerto Rico? I didn’t always put my best foot forward when I was in school but seeing as though I’m Puerto Rican I should and do know that Puerto Ricans are not immigrants. We are American. America owns PR. lol. That’s a small thing though. Video is great!
You love being own😂
The days of modding Cod WaW zombies lobbies were some of the best days. It was also not like when you did it multiplayer, which players usually hated you when you did it. When you modded a zombies game, from what I remember, everyone would get hyped.
Cyber criminal, meet street criminal. lol
Lmao
I love these style of videos and you are such a natural at it. Absolute gripping stuff.
Ay glad you liked it, my favorite type to make :)
Don't listen to this while driving.. The 40,000 ad breaks make it a nightmare
Watched the whole thing, I didn’t even get one ad during the video
"Immigrant parents from Puerto Rico"
That annoyed me SO MUCH
what about it?
@@xanox23PR is a US territory, his parents were citizens of the United States, not immigrants.
Using SMS for 2FA is one of the dumbest things you could do.
Who could've guessed the people hacking billion dollar company security to make mario yell "oh yeah" like the Kool aid Man would ALSO have the hacking skills necessary to break into more serious security.
When she said she has no retirement i felt so bad for her... Think about woring for 30+ years and maybe have 10-15 years left to retirement that you saved for. And all those years stolen in some hours. Totally devistating. If you guys are saving money in cryptos please use harddrives for them. 🙏
The common theme about all these kids is they get caught posting about themselves on social media.
“Kids do things to impress their friends”
Yeah, like wearing their dad’s rolex at school. Not stealing multiple family’s life-savings. 10 years is honestly insulting to the victims that had decades of hard work stolen from them.
And yet all the bankers that did much worse before the subprime mortgage meltdown were given a free pass. Frankly, unless we go after the much greater criminals like the bankers were, we’re just hypocrites that enrich established criminals while ostracizing outsiders.
This is the best video I have ever watched on UA-cam! This is crazy I used OG users for many years and had no idea this stuff was going on!
You're too kind! So many crazy stories tied to that forum
@@Crumb I really am not joking you gained a new subscriber really impressed if you could at some point consider doing more videos on other crazy stories tied to that forum that would be quite interesting! Maybe even the downfall of og users?? I dont know keep up the great work you deserve way more subscribers
And ti his lawyer saying 'He's a kid, 19 or 20'. Thats not a kid, thats a full blown adult with the same responsibilities if everyone else.
Puerto Ricans aren’t immigrants Puerto Rico is a US territory we are citizens
Since 1917 too, longer than other states like Hawaii. Ignorance is rampant 😂
This was soooo entertaining. Thank you. It’s crazy how they all contributed and then some left with only 48 months while others have to be locked up for 10 years. Rough. But they had there fun…
dude that stole 22m got 18 months lol