@@SpazzyjonesGaming isnt that rather exploiting than cheating? some dev commands are definately cheats tho.^^ anyways i hope irongate fixes the bosses :\ idk how to play the game atm - i feel stupid not to use strats like that, but at the same time its not immersive and fun for me to kill bosses like that.
@@MikeGrau0hr i don't disagree. they're primarily speedrunning strategies and I would only use them in that setting. otherwise its way more fun to fight them straight up
Trollstav is not a cheat. It is industrial excavator for early game materials. I used trollmeteor to obtain incredible amount of cooper, for reinforcement all of my buildings with dvergr ornate walls.
In dvergr structures, you can toss balls of refined eitr against the wards and move out of radiation range and allow those to destroy the ward without aggroing the dvergar (pick them up afterwards!). If you need to kill dvergar without getting aggro, toss pufferfish around them, as the dvergr runs into the pufferfish, the poison kills them, leaving you looking innocent..
I've used trolls fo farm early game resources so much that they just can't hit me anymore. Their growl sfx are ingrained into my brain as an audio cue to dodge. Best laborers ever!
8:30 you can damage a ward with a weapon without causing them to attack you. It is only when you destroy it that they will get mad. So you can use a weapon to bash the ward down to super low health, and then start hitting it with the cart. Saves you a TON of time
@@SpazzyjonesGaming yeah it's how I took over one of the dvergr bases in my game. Another good one is digging down a tiny bit and placing a campfire, then using the hoe to raise the ground which covers the fire pit. Campfires prevent monster spawning within a certain distance, but monster will attack them. But they can't attack it underground. Great way to create a large monster free zone.
I would say that I knew 95% of the Cheats/exploits provided in this video, HOWEVER - the video is really well created, with most important points, good sound quality and easy explanation. I would recommend this video to my friends in future. a Huge like from me - good job!
In all servers I had with friends, we always use the Trolls for getting resources! We like to say we are hiring them for a day's work, and we even give them reviews ans stuff lol Another quick way of getting finewood in early game it's with other trees! If you are cutting nearby tress and make them fall on top of a fine wood tree, the fine wood tree will take damage. It usually takes a little longer than it will if you would use Trolls for hire, but it's a good way to do so if you're a little too scared of Trolls and don't want to deal with the consecuences of hiring one. If the are no trees neabry, you can always cut one out and then roll the chunk of tree that falls when you cut it (but before you cut it into wood) and just slam it onto the fine wood tree. Beware: You can also take damage from this, so remember to jump a lot.
nice! really good tips! have you seen people using doors to help break birch logs on the ground? basically you can place a door and keep opening/closing it to push it into other logs slowly breaking it
@@SpazzyjonesGaming omg, I haven't heard about that one! I just updated the game so I can test the new beta so I def will be trying this one out lol tnks for the tip!!
About tip 20: U can do it without fire hazard. Drop a portal in ashalnds. Whenever comet hits the ground and starts small fire just put wood stacks in that place.
Ad abomination. Utilize natural spawning fire geysers to deal massive amounts of dmg (relative to your bronze/iron age weapons) while kiting the thing around. It's a bit situational but also very effective. Ad geysers. Be sure to hoe or pickaxe ground around them so that there is very shallow water around. When surtlings spawn they will nearly insta die leaving you a very efficient surt. core/coal/trophy farm.
@@SpazzyjonesGaming Huge deal for getting loads of coal with no work. Once I have my first access to swamp surtlings I build a portal nearby and my coal needs are met for the rest of the game. The water doesn't need to be deep so just dig slightly (one or two taps of the pick) then stand in it and lower all the surrounding area - presto, loads and LOADS of never ending coal.
I like to use the Obliterator to get coal. The item to coal ratio is 1:1 for trophies, 5:1 for most woods, 20:1 for arrows, and 10:1 for everything else. By far the most space-efficient gifts to Thor are coins, which come in stacks of 999. The Obliterator has 21 inventory slots, and coal comes in stacks of 50. To completely fill up the Obliterator with coal in one shot, you only need 10,500 coins. That’s 10 full stacks of 999, plus another stack of 510. When you pull that lever, every slot will be filled with a full stack of coal, or 1,050 units.
@@Sacdecaca17 Exactly, it’s not worth it to put wood in the Obliterator. It’s quick, but it’s wasteful. A full stack of 50 wood in the obliterator only gets you 10 coal back. You’re better off putting that wood in a kiln, since the ratio is 1:1. It’s slower, but a full stack of wood in a kiln always produces a full stack of coal.
The problem with those "cheats" (more like bug abuse tbh) is that they're either super fun (like killing Eikthyr with campfire), or super boring (like killing Bonemass on the top of a plateform. It's better to have the thrill of actually being in danger and threatened to kill, much more dopamine
Finding silver do not just run around and smash the ground. Your elevation has to be at least as high as there's obsidian. Then look for flat ground or near golems for some of them are guarding silver veins.
Offing yourself multiple times for the corpse run buff is, in no way, useful enough to warrant lowering all of your skills several levels. Unless you're going to outright cheat and devcommand your skills back up, and at that point, why not full cheat whatever you were going to use this cheese on. It's strictly bad advice lol
its primarily only used for speedrunning purposes when you are essentially forced to fight the boss with underleveled equipment. So aside from that niche use case. I completely agree haha
I hadn't seen the battering ram or troll stave methods of breaking plain's stone pillars, that's brilliant. The cooking station trick inside tombs is new to me too. I'll probably pass on the other hacks since they feel like they're just too far outside what the devs intended.
Arguable whether or not this is a cheat, but plains islands are definitely OP for farming plains resources completely safely. Find a plains biome island that's got a full ocean block between it and the nearest continent, clear out all enemies and structures, terraform it to a flat surface, cultivate and workbench it, and other than flying raids you are completely covered.
I've often found... well, when boss fight areas are choked full of trees, that going around and cutting every tree to within one hit of falling in the surrounding area to be a HIGHLY effective strategy before triggering the boss battle, as the boss will almost definitely trigger a chain reaction of falling trees taking falling tree damage, rolling log damage, and boxing themselves in to a confined area where they can't move around very much.
Great video man as a solo player who struggled through the entire story the late stage bosses you really need to cheese the first couple times to learn I swear some of these bosses are sooooo hard.
You can get into the middle of charred fortresses by digging to the bottom of the wall as far as you can go and then angling yourself toward the middle. You may need to break some of the hard stone, but not as much as on the ground. Then dig a little more (just enough for you to fit, not all of it) and you can jump up (wearing feather cape) and get the loot. Also, they seem to be well protected from shooting lava. I have a few fortresses where I setup my non-stone portal inside the middle and they have not taken any damage, negating the need for shields.
I say troll mining isn't even cheese. It's just a good strategy. I wouldn't say the eggs are cheese either, unless you use portal cheese to get into the bottom of the tower.
If you knock down nirmal trees then ram them into oak and birch trees you can get fine wood that way. I figured this out day 1 and have been using it every playthrough. Early furniture is awsome
It's not that I disagree, but I would rather take the time to craft the proper tools than lure a troll around. Nasty despicable oafs. Sneaky devils, too.
I like to use the hoe in the meadows to level ground from below the Viking ship graves to expose the chest. It’s really quick and doesn’t require any fancy equipment.
Another trick to cutting down oak trees early on, is just rolling logs into them. This takes time and patience, but it's using the domino effect of falling trees mechanic to your advantage. Trees in Valheim aren't cut down by cutting plant fibers with a metal blade, they're cut down by beating a damage threshold.
Missed opportunity #1 (?): hauling a longship's worth of metal cargo to the base can be done in a breeze by using harpoon and PvP. Require two players though, so not for single play scenario. One player grabs fully loaded cart or, even better, fills their personal inventory with the cargo as much as number of free slots allows. Encumbered will not be a problem. It is, in fact, expected here. Both players then activate PvP. The player not being encumbered will then harpoon the first player and can, quite easily, drag the other one with him/her. The encumbered state only affects the player carrying the cargo, not the one dragging using the harpoon. Two things are likely needed in preparation for this operation: If the distance to base is covered with obstacles you might have to prepare it some in order not to get stuck while dragging (don't overdo it, but if the same distance will be used repeatedly it will be obvious if it is needed). Also, the one dragging the other might want to prepare stamina drain counter measures too - depending on distance to base etc. This technique, with or without cart, can be used to drag huge amounts silver from the mountains (hey, it's downhill...) as well as a ships heavy cargo to the base - in a single run. Word of caution: don't forget to disable PvP afterwards - at least if your team players are sneaky bastards that enjoy a friendly sucker punch or PvP kill when you're done hauling. ;)
Dvergr camps I like to clear out with soldiers, most of the camps are in really bad places for a base for me so I just have the native creatures deal with it, or I use the Dvergr to kill the ants for me. The Dvergr make good little guards so in optimal locations I like to keep them alive. And there's several ways to destroy the ward, ramming it with any mobile or rolling object works, incidental damage from Eitr works, Ants work but it's a bit finicky to get the dvergr in the right place for the ant to attack (unless you get an aoe one in there), trolls also work, but you'd have to get the dvergr attacking the ants first so they're occupied to get a troll in the base. And I'm sure with fire spread on you could lay out some flammable stuff to get it inside to damage the ward. I haven't tried just holding a torch near it yet, not sure if that actually counts as fire damage without the swinging action... In most cases, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is the best strategy. Using another creature or enemy to do your bidding is always acceptable and never cheating (we've been doing that in war since the beginning of time). I've only ever beaten the bosses once, just to see what it was like. Since the beginning of early access I've only played no-boss kill runs. It's a lot more satisfying trying to exist without relying on boss buffs or items. Unfortunately there is at least 1 item that you require from a boss (don't remember what it is) that you can't progress without. So I just transfer that item from another save like the devs intended ;)
Missed opportunity #2 (?): On PC, hitting 'r' will holster weapon immediately without animation, no need to use the switch-to-hammer-technique. Also, you don't need to beat whole sealed tower to get to the eggs. Use the same glitch mechanics mentioned in the video to transport yourself directly through the Wall and into the cellar. You have to dig a bit close to the outer wall and experiment a bit with precision/placement but with some practice you'll enter the bottom floor fast and easy without having to battle your way down. Well, Zil and Thungr you need to deal with. Don't forget to build a portal outside so you can easily get out again with the eggs, without going through the upper levels. Speaking of Zil and Thungr - you can beat them without even entering the tower (which you eventually have to do if it's the eggs and/or the loot that you're after). This technique is NOT for the impatient. Since area damage goes through walls, you can use a weapon with area damage to take down the duo from the outside. This caveat is that they need to be quite close to you on the other side of the wall. This makes this a somewhat tedious operation (you don't see them but you can hear when they get hit). You can, however, make it somewhat more efficient by bringing along a mob that is not within the same faction as Zil & Thungr. This seem to bring them close to the wall. I've successfully used wolves to accomplish this (first time accidently as I got "you're being hunted" when trying to beat Zil & Thungr from the outside). Going inside and beating them up close and personal is likely way more efficient (and not necessarily more dangerous). I see it more as a fun exercise, a way to bring some variation. :)
I take care of bonemass on risen ground. On top a portal for going home and the stagbreaker equipped. If the hammer gets low on durability I just port home, repair and return. Only damage I receive is poison which can be lowered by potions. Also you could or maybe still can do all of this in the skull itself. Just go in it with a chair, mark the outer border to not step out. But never go to the mouth of the skull. You might get stuck and need to teleport out of it
You can also use Refined Eitr to break the wards without angering the dwarves but, the cart seems much more efficient. ...once you get it in the door. 😉
Logs rammed into trees cause damage to both the log and tree, repeat until desired tree is broken. Can easily get wood types a lot earlier than you should be able to
First time in valheim i figure out that you can cut down harder trees with other trees. And you can roll trees on each other again and again to break them into wood. Without using axe(beside choping normal trees down).
I mean, this is great and all. I love that people are figuring these things out. ( I like all of your videos and subscribe to you, keep it up love it! ) But I have to say, how much more work is this than just beating the boss and working ahead as "normal" ? Not all, but a lot of this seems like a lot more work than even just killing the boss, or using the tools intended. They don't seem like cheating to me because I feel like I can just take a good ol' weapon or a tool (pick axe, dowsing rod) into it and have a go and while people are using all of these fancy methods I'm not sure it'd really be even quicker. Using the rod instead of pounding away with a 2H hammer all over the mountains most people could just kill the boss in that amount of time and gain more materials. My 2 cents. It's not cheating, it's wasting time imo lol.
I rushed Ashlands to get Molten Cores. Only beat Eikthyt and ran with Root Armor. It’s doable, but was super difficult. Prospecting and mine clipping for the win!
You know, you have an even less risky method than hiring a troll to get fine wood before the bronze axe: just cut down a normal tree and repeatedly roll the logs against a birch tree to take it down... 😜
Is the sledge to find silver veins really that effective. I feel like the additional time it would take checking each square inch of a mountain even if you account for the blast radius is not worth it.
I mean it's definitely slower than having the wishbone but the benefit of not killing bonemass is that you don't have to deal with wolf raids or drake raids as a result
yes thats a good one. But you need to destroy a ward to even get the thing that allows you to collect sap which is required to make eitr in the first place
Using a game mechanic to your advantage is knowledge and skill, using a bug like the chair method is cheating although it is fairplay if you are doing a speedrun - in that case everything is on the table. That being said I would like some things changed like firedamage dps on bosses being limited from sources like the campfire, corpserun being available only once after death and small things like that, but I'd say these changes aren't really neccessary
tell u right now, you learn alot of these tricks when you turn the combat difficulty up. games brutal lol xD but started to get boring without turning it up
Hitting enemies and objects through terrain with the sledges has gotten me so much mileage since valheim first dropped, super busted stratagy all around
One time i failed to use camp fires for the elder fight and had to kill it using the dense trees were the only attack possible was the range one, which the trees blocked
Just Got back at playing Valheim about a week ago. Started all over again due to my world being corrupted for not playing for years. (plain was still the last biome then) Given the brutal nature of this game. these exploits would come in handy for your survival. I might also add. if you want to level up your bow skill. Do that bonemass exploit, pop a portal connected to base to stock up on arrows, use a crude bow and wooden arrow and just hit bonemass with it. It would be grindy but it's all worth it because having a high bow skill would decrease the draw time of the bow and let you release arrows quickly. And.. Fuck that honey. Been playing for 70 hrs and haven't found any of it.
@@SpazzyjonesGaming yeah, no luck but I found huge meadows biome with multiple draugr villages. I think I'm gonna find some honey there. It is also connected with swap biome where bonemass is located, got lucky coz there was a surtling spawner at the shore, touching the waters. Saves me time to find them and do the farming exploit, plus very near is a sunken crypt where I built my out post.
@@SpazzyjonesGaming I already found beehives, I found 7 of them in the new huge meadows that I found while I was looking for a mountain biome and yes, beside the meadow there was a mountain but I don't know if it is huge.
Using Trolls to dig up copper and chop down trees is not cheating. I have done plenty of playthroughs digging out loads of copper. I do not enjoy that any longer so I'd rather have the Troll do it. He's fantastic.
The Trolls being able to destroy Beech trees and ore veins is obviously intended by the devs, otherwise their attacks wouldn't have any chop/pick damage of a high enough tier.
it could be. I dont think they expected players to deliberately use them to mine/chop resources though but it does make sense they can damage the environment around them
Debug and admin commands help get it done faster while you enjoy the games. I don't have a lot of time to play, and they help me by speeding things up in games. No cheating, just enjoying fun games
Overall, games are about having fun and that matters more than whether you are cheating or not. Here are my opinions though, Devcommands are cheats for sure, lol. A lot of this stuff is playing the game as intended though. IMO, logging out and back in would be a cheat since logging in and out to affect the game isn't part of normal game play.
Great take. I completely agree. I like to support people any way they like to play. So are these cheats? its super subjective and surely each person will have a different opinion
My take is that everyone is entitled to play single player, or coop/non-competitive multiplayer games how they want, even using glitches and exploits as long as they're not griefing. In such games, you set your own limits. But I've got absolutely zero tolerance for cheating or using exploits in games where you compete with or fight other players. A win only counts when it's fair and square.
-Trolls as free labor: I'm so proud of folks for figuring this one out; pretty sure I was one of the earliest pioneers after Valheim's release. Trolls are our friends! -Dumb deer: Meh, honestly I don't find deer hunting to be all that bad. If you're looking and listening for them, hitting them isn't all that hard; just make sure you're not downhill so you're not fighting gravity and the terrain. -Hammers: yep, this one works just fine, though I rarely use hammers myself. -Build in combat: nah, I prefer the excitement of actual fighting, but go for it. -Secret weapon: ehhhhhh, fires don't do THAT much damage unless you can keep the enemy burning for a good while. Not worth carrying around all the extra stuff, IMHO. -Hammer sheathing: yeah this one works but with some experience you can prevent the need altogether. -Abom hitboxes: LOL yeah, I've done this plenty of times. Eventually you develop the timing and confidence to just dodge or block but this definitely bridges the gap. -Chairs: I knew about the crypt but the rock? Yeah, that one is a LITTLE cheaty at least... -Cutscenes: didn't know about this one. Does feel kinda cheap but sometimes the game deserves a middle finger. I'LL ALLOW IT! -Swamp boss cheese: well the name says it all, doesn't it? the multi-tombstone hack is clever but yeah, I'm gonna say a big ol "QUESOOOOOOOO!" to this one, especially since you're throwing away a ton of XP in your skills to do this. -Hoe is OP: yes. Yes it is. I never leave home without it. -Moder/yag cheese: yeah this one's an old trick. A little lame but a valid use of the terrain I suppose. Not much fun though. -"early" egg: the sealed tower is still in the plains so I wouldn't call that very "early" but whatever works. -Dvergr houses: Interesting! Never thought to try cart ramming. -Avoid damage with logout: okay now THIS one really IS just cheating. That's not even using a game mechanic; that's stepping outside the game. That's what roleplayers would call "metagaming" and it's lame. The fact that you lose buffs seems fair punishment for this cheese. Haven't played into the Ashlands yet so I'll stop there for now; I still want to actually discover some things myself. Lots of interesting tidbits though.
After spending about four frustrating hours one night doing blind parkour around three continents of mistlands looking for a giant skull, I decided it wasn't worth playing fair. I went back to base and used devcommands to spawn a few hundred soft tissue. And while I appreciate the toughness of a survival game and having to sneak back to regain your stuff when you die. I just don't have that kind of time. I can hit F5 and type god, ghost, and fly and get it done in a couple minutes.
So why would you want to skip Bonemass when he yields the absolute best Forsaken Power. being able to take reduced physical damage is a such a game changer allowing you take fights you normally wouldnt risk. like say taking on a 2* Fuling Berserker. To this day, i dont think ive encountered a 2* berserker, encountered numerous 1* but that 2* has been elusive.
In answer to your pinned comment: No! None of these are cheats or cheese, until you open dev-commands. Everything else in this video is a TACTIC. Tactics are what gaming is about. Why should anyone play a game "the way the developer intended"?? A good dev, like a good DM, wants you to play the game your way.
Dude, killing yourself for the tomb stone corpsrun buff is a Great way to lose All of your level progress. You know that you lose 5% of all your levels every time you die right?
I always struggle with the timing of the trolls that carry logs. I always seem to get hit by their attacks compared to the ones without logs who cannot hit me at all.
Let me know what you think. Do you consider any of these cheating!?
I consider it as cheesing the game
@@lhucas11 fair
These are the kind of tricks you learn before you appear in a Valheim anime world after you tragically died and Odin gives you his blessings...
@@SpazzyjonesGaming isnt that rather exploiting than cheating? some dev commands are definately cheats tho.^^
anyways i hope irongate fixes the bosses :\ idk how to play the game atm - i feel stupid not to use strats like that, but at the same time its not immersive and fun for me to kill bosses like that.
@@MikeGrau0hr i don't disagree. they're primarily speedrunning strategies and I would only use them in that setting. otherwise its way more fun to fight them straight up
Trollstav is not a cheat. It is industrial excavator for early game materials. I used trollmeteor to obtain incredible amount of cooper, for reinforcement all of my buildings with dvergr ornate walls.
Hell ya! I'm with ya man
so technically its a nice mining tool unless you die from your own summon?
In dvergr structures, you can toss balls of refined eitr against the wards and move out of radiation range and allow those to destroy the ward without aggroing the dvergar (pick them up afterwards!). If you need to kill dvergar without getting aggro, toss pufferfish around them, as the dvergr runs into the pufferfish, the poison kills them, leaving you looking innocent..
good tips
the perfect crime
I've used trolls fo farm early game resources so much that they just can't hit me anymore. Their growl sfx are ingrained into my brain as an audio cue to dodge. Best laborers ever!
same! the best laborers
8:30 you can damage a ward with a weapon without causing them to attack you. It is only when you destroy it that they will get mad. So you can use a weapon to bash the ward down to super low health, and then start hitting it with the cart. Saves you a TON of time
oh wow. is that true?
@@SpazzyjonesGaming yeah it's how I took over one of the dvergr bases in my game. Another good one is digging down a tiny bit and placing a campfire, then using the hoe to raise the ground which covers the fire pit. Campfires prevent monster spawning within a certain distance, but monster will attack them. But they can't attack it underground. Great way to create a large monster free zone.
Dude makes a video about cheesing the game but then proceeds to fight Bonemass with a sword😭
Geez can't get anything passed you guys 😅
@@SpazzyjonesGaming past*
I thought that was the point. That even if you were cheesing or speedrunning etc. if you only had a sword bonemass would eventually die.
@@Yamaazaka that is the point haha
Spirited weapon good to fight. f.exp. silver sword
I would say that I knew 95% of the Cheats/exploits provided in this video, HOWEVER - the video is really well created, with most important points, good sound quality and easy explanation. I would recommend this video to my friends in future. a Huge like from me - good job!
Thanks so much! I try to deliver quality
@@maximvolchek6187 I totally agree. Well done vid!
Everyone says use the cooking station to trap deer but tossing a spear or the bow is absolutely easier and less aggravating
i agree. cooking station is tricky to execute
@SpazzyjonesGaming almost a silly idea
@@MTKRAILROAD spear is the way
In all servers I had with friends, we always use the Trolls for getting resources! We like to say we are hiring them for a day's work, and we even give them reviews ans stuff lol
Another quick way of getting finewood in early game it's with other trees! If you are cutting nearby tress and make them fall on top of a fine wood tree, the fine wood tree will take damage. It usually takes a little longer than it will if you would use Trolls for hire, but it's a good way to do so if you're a little too scared of Trolls and don't want to deal with the consecuences of hiring one.
If the are no trees neabry, you can always cut one out and then roll the chunk of tree that falls when you cut it (but before you cut it into wood) and just slam it onto the fine wood tree. Beware: You can also take damage from this, so remember to jump a lot.
nice! really good tips! have you seen people using doors to help break birch logs on the ground? basically you can place a door and keep opening/closing it to push it into other logs slowly breaking it
@@SpazzyjonesGaming omg, I haven't heard about that one! I just updated the game so I can test the new beta so I def will be trying this one out lol
tnks for the tip!!
lmao I do the falling/rolling logs to birch trees trick the first time I played the game. That's how I got a finewood bow early game.
About tip 20: U can do it without fire hazard. Drop a portal in ashalnds. Whenever comet hits the ground and starts small fire just put wood stacks in that place.
yes 100%
Ad abomination. Utilize natural spawning fire geysers to deal massive amounts of dmg (relative to your bronze/iron age weapons) while kiting the thing around. It's a bit situational but also very effective.
Ad geysers. Be sure to hoe or pickaxe ground around them so that there is very shallow water around. When surtlings spawn they will nearly insta die leaving you a very efficient surt. core/coal/trophy farm.
100% very good tip. the flame geyers absolutely wreck abominations.
And the second... the poor surtlings lolol
@@SpazzyjonesGaming Huge deal for getting loads of coal with no work. Once I have my first access to swamp surtlings I build a portal nearby and
my coal needs are met for the rest of the game. The water doesn't need to be deep so just dig slightly (one or two taps of the pick) then stand in it and lower all the
surrounding area - presto, loads and LOADS of never ending coal.
@@WanderAbroad-pq5ph yessir thats a good one. The only thing I don't like about this is you need to be nearby for the surtlings to spawn
a quick note about campfires. They also prevent enemy spawns *inside* dungeons, which is super useful for gathering royal jelly.
good point!
I like to use the Obliterator to get coal. The item to coal ratio is 1:1 for trophies, 5:1 for most woods, 20:1 for arrows, and 10:1 for everything else.
By far the most space-efficient gifts to Thor are coins, which come in stacks of 999. The Obliterator has 21 inventory slots, and coal comes in stacks of 50. To completely fill up the Obliterator with coal in one shot, you only need 10,500 coins. That’s 10 full stacks of 999, plus another stack of 510. When you pull that lever, every slot will be filled with a full stack of coal, or 1,050 units.
That's a good one. Especially since coins become useless after a certain point
If the ration is 5:1 for wood then its not that worth, no ?
It’s a real question
@@Sacdecaca17 Exactly, it’s not worth it to put wood in the Obliterator. It’s quick, but it’s wasteful. A full stack of 50 wood in the obliterator only gets you 10 coal back. You’re better off putting that wood in a kiln, since the ratio is 1:1. It’s slower, but a full stack of wood in a kiln always produces a full stack of coal.
@@FoxyGekkerson ok nice I still can do maths 😂
The problem with those "cheats" (more like bug abuse tbh) is that they're either super fun (like killing Eikthyr with campfire), or super boring (like killing Bonemass on the top of a plateform. It's better to have the thrill of actually being in danger and threatened to kill, much more dopamine
Yep. Nobody has to do them if they don't want to
Finding silver do not just run around and smash the ground. Your elevation has to be at least as high as there's obsidian. Then look for flat ground or near golems for some of them are guarding silver veins.
facts
Offing yourself multiple times for the corpse run buff is, in no way, useful enough to warrant lowering all of your skills several levels. Unless you're going to outright cheat and devcommand your skills back up, and at that point, why not full cheat whatever you were going to use this cheese on. It's strictly bad advice lol
You lose them once, you have the Merciful Gods status when you just died. Besides, it is peak speedrunning advice for speedruns too.
its primarily only used for speedrunning purposes when you are essentially forced to fight the boss with underleveled equipment. So aside from that niche use case. I completely agree haha
@@SpazzyjonesGaming Ah, makes sense.
you only lose skills when you don't have the "no skill loss" buff
after your first death, you don't lose skill until that falls off
@@traugdor facts
I hadn't seen the battering ram or troll stave methods of breaking plain's stone pillars, that's brilliant. The cooking station trick inside tombs is new to me too. I'll probably pass on the other hacks since they feel like they're just too far outside what the devs intended.
totally fair. The tips in this video definitely vary in how 'cheaty' they really are
@@SpazzyjonesGaming Great information regardless, thanks!
@@circleofowls any time!
Arguable whether or not this is a cheat, but plains islands are definitely OP for farming plains resources completely safely. Find a plains biome island that's got a full ocean block between it and the nearest continent, clear out all enemies and structures, terraform it to a flat surface, cultivate and workbench it, and other than flying raids you are completely covered.
agreed, great idea
the trick with the chair... is just insane :)
glad you enjoyed!
I've often found... well, when boss fight areas are choked full of trees, that going around and cutting every tree to within one hit of falling in the surrounding area to be a HIGHLY effective strategy before triggering the boss battle, as the boss will almost definitely trigger a chain reaction of falling trees taking falling tree damage, rolling log damage, and boxing themselves in to a confined area where they can't move around very much.
thats a good proactive measure
Great video man as a solo player who struggled through the entire story the late stage bosses you really need to cheese the first couple times to learn I swear some of these bosses are sooooo hard.
glad you enjoyed it!
You can get into the middle of charred fortresses by digging to the bottom of the wall as far as you can go and then angling yourself toward the middle. You may need to break some of the hard stone, but not as much as on the ground. Then dig a little more (just enough for you to fit, not all of it) and you can jump up (wearing feather cape) and get the loot.
Also, they seem to be well protected from shooting lava. I have a few fortresses where I setup my non-stone portal inside the middle and they have not taken any damage, negating the need for shields.
nice! i haven't tried digging that deeply! interesting
I say troll mining isn't even cheese. It's just a good strategy. I wouldn't say the eggs are cheese either, unless you use portal cheese to get into the bottom of the tower.
Agreed. Ooh what is this portal cheese to the bottom? That's news to me
@@SpazzyjonesGaming Firespark has a video about it.
If you knock down nirmal trees then ram them into oak and birch trees you can get fine wood that way. I figured this out day 1 and have been using it every playthrough. Early furniture is awsome
niccce
It's not that I disagree, but I would rather take the time to craft the proper tools than lure a troll around. Nasty despicable oafs. Sneaky devils, too.
totally fair
I like to use the hoe in the meadows to level ground from below the Viking ship graves to expose the chest. It’s really quick and doesn’t require any fancy equipment.
thats pretty cool. I've never tried that
Another trick to cutting down oak trees early on, is just rolling logs into them. This takes time and patience, but it's using the domino effect of falling trees mechanic to your advantage. Trees in Valheim aren't cut down by cutting plant fibers with a metal blade, they're cut down by beating a damage threshold.
Yeah, Valheim's physics are pretty wild.
That coal trick is awesome. Thank you!
You're welcome!
Missed opportunity #1 (?): hauling a longship's worth of metal cargo to the base can be done in a breeze by using harpoon and PvP. Require two players though, so not for single play scenario. One player grabs fully loaded cart or, even better, fills their personal inventory with the cargo as much as number of free slots allows. Encumbered will not be a problem. It is, in fact, expected here. Both players then activate PvP. The player not being encumbered will then harpoon the first player and can, quite easily, drag the other one with him/her. The encumbered state only affects the player carrying the cargo, not the one dragging using the harpoon.
Two things are likely needed in preparation for this operation: If the distance to base is covered with obstacles you might have to prepare it some in order not to get stuck while dragging (don't overdo it, but if the same distance will be used repeatedly it will be obvious if it is needed).
Also, the one dragging the other might want to prepare stamina drain counter measures too - depending on distance to base etc.
This technique, with or without cart, can be used to drag huge amounts silver from the mountains (hey, it's downhill...) as well as a ships heavy cargo to the base - in a single run.
Word of caution: don't forget to disable PvP afterwards - at least if your team players are sneaky bastards that enjoy a friendly sucker punch or PvP kill when you're done hauling. ;)
great tip!
Dvergr camps I like to clear out with soldiers, most of the camps are in really bad places for a base for me so I just have the native creatures deal with it, or I use the Dvergr to kill the ants for me. The Dvergr make good little guards so in optimal locations I like to keep them alive. And there's several ways to destroy the ward, ramming it with any mobile or rolling object works, incidental damage from Eitr works, Ants work but it's a bit finicky to get the dvergr in the right place for the ant to attack (unless you get an aoe one in there), trolls also work, but you'd have to get the dvergr attacking the ants first so they're occupied to get a troll in the base. And I'm sure with fire spread on you could lay out some flammable stuff to get it inside to damage the ward. I haven't tried just holding a torch near it yet, not sure if that actually counts as fire damage without the swinging action...
In most cases, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" is the best strategy. Using another creature or enemy to do your bidding is always acceptable and never cheating (we've been doing that in war since the beginning of time).
I've only ever beaten the bosses once, just to see what it was like. Since the beginning of early access I've only played no-boss kill runs. It's a lot more satisfying trying to exist without relying on boss buffs or items. Unfortunately there is at least 1 item that you require from a boss (don't remember what it is) that you can't progress without. So I just transfer that item from another save like the devs intended ;)
agreed with everything you said!
This video is how prehistoric humans hunted mamooths and other big animals: exploit their primitive AI and use game (life) physics to your advantage
facts
I started rolling trees into the harder trees (birch and oak) pretty much from day 1. That's how I've always gotten fine wood very early on.
totally worth it
Missed opportunity #2 (?): On PC, hitting 'r' will holster weapon immediately without animation, no need to use the switch-to-hammer-technique.
Also, you don't need to beat whole sealed tower to get to the eggs. Use the same glitch mechanics mentioned in the video to transport yourself directly through the Wall and into the cellar. You have to dig a bit close to the outer wall and experiment a bit with precision/placement but with some practice you'll enter the bottom floor fast and easy without having to battle your way down. Well, Zil and Thungr you need to deal with. Don't forget to build a portal outside so you can easily get out again with the eggs, without going through the upper levels.
Speaking of Zil and Thungr - you can beat them without even entering the tower (which you eventually have to do if it's the eggs and/or the loot that you're after).
This technique is NOT for the impatient. Since area damage goes through walls, you can use a weapon with area damage to take down the duo from the outside. This caveat is that they need to be quite close to you on the other side of the wall. This makes this a somewhat tedious operation (you don't see them but you can hear when they get hit).
You can, however, make it somewhat more efficient by bringing along a mob that is not within the same faction as Zil & Thungr. This seem to bring them close to the wall. I've successfully used wolves to accomplish this (first time accidently as I got "you're being hunted" when trying to beat Zil & Thungr from the outside).
Going inside and beating them up close and personal is likely way more efficient (and not necessarily more dangerous). I see it more as a fun exercise, a way to bring some variation. :)
good tips except I don't think hitting 'r' holsters without an animation, I think that one is false. I'd have to confirm it next time i hop in game
I take care of bonemass on risen ground. On top a portal for going home and the stagbreaker equipped. If the hammer gets low on durability I just port home, repair and return. Only damage I receive is poison which can be lowered by potions.
Also you could or maybe still can do all of this in the skull itself. Just go in it with a chair, mark the outer border to not step out. But never go to the mouth of the skull. You might get stuck and need to teleport out of it
Oh interesting I have never tried using the chair trick on a skill. Great idea!
@@SpazzyjonesGaming You can also use them on the big tress around. That can make your live in the first hours of the swamp pretty easy🤘🏻
The absolute chaos by cooking station and bonfire in the dungeons 😂😂
is it ever
Im almost not a cheater
After you've played a couple of thousand hours, you're going to get really bored with the wood chopping game.
me neither
100%
The comment is corrected now
You can also use Refined Eitr to break the wards without angering the dwarves but, the cart seems much more efficient. ...once you get it in the door. 😉
correct
Logs rammed into trees cause damage to both the log and tree, repeat until desired tree is broken. Can easily get wood types a lot earlier than you should be able to
yes! it just takes SO long
First time in valheim i figure out that you can cut down harder trees with other trees. And you can roll trees on each other again and again to break them into wood. Without using axe(beside choping normal trees down).
you sure can!
Regarding birch trees you can also fell and break down birch by rolling logs into them.
Absolutely. Good one
cool spazzy, ill implement and experiment them in my other world, just letting you know, im almost at ashlands.
nice! good luck, definitely some cool tricks to mess around with in here
@@SpazzyjonesGaming cheating is pretty cool tho... for me only when im bored playing in the casual way
@@ghoulhahahaj legit
You can also make coal by hitting log pile with a torch
that works too. Still assuming you have the fire hazard setting enabled
It doesn't work in vr
@@GIVEMEACID for real?
I mean, this is great and all. I love that people are figuring these things out. ( I like all of your videos and subscribe to you, keep it up love it! ) But I have to say, how much more work is this than just beating the boss and working ahead as "normal" ? Not all, but a lot of this seems like a lot more work than even just killing the boss, or using the tools intended. They don't seem like cheating to me because I feel like I can just take a good ol' weapon or a tool (pick axe, dowsing rod) into it and have a go and while people are using all of these fancy methods I'm not sure it'd really be even quicker. Using the rod instead of pounding away with a 2H hammer all over the mountains most people could just kill the boss in that amount of time and gain more materials. My 2 cents. It's not cheating, it's wasting time imo lol.
Fair. The main reason for skipping bonemass is you avoid moders raids like the wolf and drake raids which can be nice. Especially the wolf raid
I rushed Ashlands to get Molten Cores. Only beat Eikthyt and ran with Root Armor. It’s doable, but was super difficult. Prospecting and mine clipping for the win!
man that sounds TOUGH
@@SpazzyjonesGaming it was hair raising. But now, it’s super easy to move resources :) Can now make my ultimate base.
@@CrayZtwin1 lets go!
You know, you have an even less risky method than hiring a troll to get fine wood before the bronze axe: just cut down a normal tree and repeatedly roll the logs against a birch tree to take it down... 😜
yeah it just takes wayy too long IMO
Is the sledge to find silver veins really that effective. I feel like the additional time it would take checking each square inch of a mountain even if you account for the blast radius is not worth it.
I mean it's definitely slower than having the wishbone but the benefit of not killing bonemass is that you don't have to deal with wolf raids or drake raids as a result
its really useful. it basically lets you skip the iron age i got enough iron for a pick and a new boat then went and got full silver gear
a better alternative for breaking dvergr wards later in is dropping refined eitr next to them and just wait
yes thats a good one. But you need to destroy a ward to even get the thing that allows you to collect sap which is required to make eitr in the first place
Using a game mechanic to your advantage is knowledge and skill, using a bug like the chair method is cheating although it is fairplay if you are doing a speedrun - in that case everything is on the table.
That being said I would like some things changed like firedamage dps on bosses being limited from sources like the campfire, corpserun being available only once after death and small things like that, but I'd say these changes aren't really neccessary
really good takes. I pretty well agree with you across the board
I first learned to use campfires as weapons in the mountains against wolves by accident. 😂
haha nice! its a good one
tell u right now, you learn alot of these tricks when you turn the combat difficulty up. games brutal lol xD but started to get boring without turning it up
so true. Many of these i learned from doing exactly that
Battering ram is gamechanger for black marble mining in mistlands. Very effective,
Much faster no doubt
Great stuff!
glad you liked it!
Hitting enemies and objects through terrain with the sledges has gotten me so much mileage since valheim first dropped, super busted stratagy all around
Absolutely. It's hella strong
I started using dev commands for food. Making good food is far to time consuming in the late game and it should last longer.
thats fair
In the words of The Fat Electrician "the militaries motto is: if you're not cheating you're not trying"
Word to live by
I'll have to upgrade to the trolcavator, I'm still using ye'old treeroller that my friends and I came up with on launch.
yes! its much faster
The firt person mod for this game is AMAZING
I did try that briefly! I'd like to get back to it
One time i failed to use camp fires for the elder fight and had to kill it using the dense trees were the only attack possible was the range one, which the trees blocked
adapt, improvise, overcome!
You can also use other logs to chop fine wood
yes just slow
Oh yeah
In the early game, i always hire a troll to do my dirty work😂
you gotta!
Just Got back at playing Valheim about a week ago. Started all over again due to my world being corrupted for not playing for years. (plain was still the last biome then) Given the brutal nature of this game. these exploits would come in handy for your survival. I might also add. if you want to level up your bow skill. Do that bonemass exploit, pop a portal connected to base to stock up on arrows, use a crude bow and wooden arrow and just hit bonemass with it. It would be grindy but it's all worth it because having a high bow skill would decrease the draw time of the bow and let you release arrows quickly. And.. Fuck that honey. Been playing for 70 hrs and haven't found any of it.
you haven't found honey? thats wild
@@SpazzyjonesGaming yeah, no luck but I found huge meadows biome with multiple draugr villages. I think I'm gonna find some honey there. It is also connected with swap biome where bonemass is located, got lucky coz there was a surtling spawner at the shore, touching the waters. Saves me time to find them and do the farming exploit, plus very near is a sunken crypt where I built my out post.
@@SonRedd wild. honey is uncommon but not THAT rare.
@@SpazzyjonesGaming I already found beehives, I found 7 of them in the new huge meadows that I found while I was looking for a mountain biome and yes, beside the meadow there was a mountain but I don't know if it is huge.
@@SonRedd W
Using Trolls to dig up copper and chop down trees is not cheating. I have done plenty of playthroughs digging out loads of copper. I do not enjoy that any longer so I'd rather have the Troll do it. He's fantastic.
agreed. it is the way!
This is not cheating, it is just knowledge. how and were u use it defines if it is cheating. tks for the vid, will share :)
i agree. Spread the word!
The Trolls being able to destroy Beech trees and ore veins is obviously intended by the devs, otherwise their attacks wouldn't have any chop/pick damage of a high enough tier.
it could be. I dont think they expected players to deliberately use them to mine/chop resources though but it does make sense they can damage the environment around them
UNREAL!!! Some of these are F(&((&^ GENIUS! Amazing video. Building the base inside a huge boulder is insane! LMAO!!!!
I'm subbing....great video
Glad you enjoyed man!
Glad you liked it my dude
I love summoning overpowered creatures and making them fight to the death
It's fun to watch!
Debug and admin commands help get it done faster while you enjoy the games. I don't have a lot of time to play, and they help me by speeding things up in games. No cheating, just enjoying fun games
I completely understand. If you have limited time absolutely use devcommands
Had you left out the devcommands, you could have gone with a fancier title, like "I am a fromage connoisseur."
Missed opportunity
Overall, games are about having fun and that matters more than whether you are cheating or not.
Here are my opinions though, Devcommands are cheats for sure, lol. A lot of this stuff is playing the game as intended though. IMO, logging out and back in would be a cheat since logging in and out to affect the game isn't part of normal game play.
Great take. I completely agree. I like to support people any way they like to play.
So are these cheats? its super subjective and surely each person will have a different opinion
My take is that everyone is entitled to play single player, or coop/non-competitive multiplayer games how they want, even using glitches and exploits as long as they're not griefing. In such games, you set your own limits.
But I've got absolutely zero tolerance for cheating or using exploits in games where you compete with or fight other players. A win only counts when it's fair and square.
-Trolls as free labor: I'm so proud of folks for figuring this one out; pretty sure I was one of the earliest pioneers after Valheim's release. Trolls are our friends!
-Dumb deer: Meh, honestly I don't find deer hunting to be all that bad. If you're looking and listening for them, hitting them isn't all that hard; just make sure you're not downhill so you're not fighting gravity and the terrain.
-Hammers: yep, this one works just fine, though I rarely use hammers myself.
-Build in combat: nah, I prefer the excitement of actual fighting, but go for it.
-Secret weapon: ehhhhhh, fires don't do THAT much damage unless you can keep the enemy burning for a good while. Not worth carrying around all the extra stuff, IMHO.
-Hammer sheathing: yeah this one works but with some experience you can prevent the need altogether.
-Abom hitboxes: LOL yeah, I've done this plenty of times. Eventually you develop the timing and confidence to just dodge or block but this definitely bridges the gap.
-Chairs: I knew about the crypt but the rock? Yeah, that one is a LITTLE cheaty at least...
-Cutscenes: didn't know about this one. Does feel kinda cheap but sometimes the game deserves a middle finger. I'LL ALLOW IT!
-Swamp boss cheese: well the name says it all, doesn't it? the multi-tombstone hack is clever but yeah, I'm gonna say a big ol "QUESOOOOOOOO!" to this one, especially since you're throwing away a ton of XP in your skills to do this.
-Hoe is OP: yes. Yes it is. I never leave home without it.
-Moder/yag cheese: yeah this one's an old trick. A little lame but a valid use of the terrain I suppose. Not much fun though.
-"early" egg: the sealed tower is still in the plains so I wouldn't call that very "early" but whatever works.
-Dvergr houses: Interesting! Never thought to try cart ramming.
-Avoid damage with logout: okay now THIS one really IS just cheating. That's not even using a game mechanic; that's stepping outside the game. That's what roleplayers would call "metagaming" and it's lame. The fact that you lose buffs seems fair punishment for this cheese.
Haven't played into the Ashlands yet so I'll stop there for now; I still want to actually discover some things myself. Lots of interesting tidbits though.
thanks!
You can use fire and bang trees together too. Lot safer
fire? do you use a torch? i have knocked them together but haven't tried using fire much
Just spawnedth 'em w/ console - the game starts on Plains anyways, until then base size is unknown/impossible to layout.
i don't blame ya
1,386 hours play time. No way he knows something I don't... The deer trick.
Heck ya ! Glad I could share one new thing
What is that portal at 4:56
stone portal im assuming? new item from the ashlands
Yeah i cannot remember the name but yes you can get that from ashlands hardest biome.
I play over 100h on release, is there enough new stuff to play again?
100% they have added two new biomes and a bunch of changes to the food system and more
@@ericsilva7430 1300 hours and counting. 🤣
21 cheese strats to make your game less full filling. Some are stupid but hey we're here to make video's.
oh yeah. I never do most of these
After spending about four frustrating hours one night doing blind parkour around three continents of mistlands looking for a giant skull, I decided it wasn't worth playing fair. I went back to base and used devcommands to spawn a few hundred soft tissue. And while I appreciate the toughness of a survival game and having to sneak back to regain your stuff when you die. I just don't have that kind of time. I can hit F5 and type god, ghost, and fly and get it done in a couple minutes.
Totally fair
Using the stagbreaker on the mountains for silver is such a cheat it needs to be patched.
maybe so
trollstaff can take out an entire copper vein in 1 shot including the stuff underground. have not tested silver but probably yes.
Yeah trollatav is fantastic for digging
So why would you want to skip Bonemass when he yields the absolute best Forsaken Power. being able to take reduced physical damage is a such a game changer allowing you take fights you normally wouldnt risk. like say taking on a 2* Fuling Berserker. To this day, i dont think ive encountered a 2* berserker, encountered numerous 1* but that 2* has been elusive.
The main reason is to avoid the wolf raid. If you never bear bonemass you never enable that and the drake raids
@@SpazzyjonesGaming This one is actually such a good idea. Especially for no death runs. Thanks Spazzy.
Hammer has a sheathing abimatuon for me o.O
it should work. can be a little tricky to figure out at first
does campfire and bonfire work to make coal aswell?
I believe it does. like if you place a wood stack next to a bonfire/campfire it will eventually catchfire and turn to coal
that battering ram cheese is clever as hell. copper, here i come
Oh heck ya!
dying on purpose is not a good strat as you lose 5% off all skills when you die.
Skills are key to survival
that is true
you dont even need a troll for finewood just use physic mechanics of the game
faster with troll IMO
You mention a "low" hit box while standing higher than the mob and attacking them... 🤔
yes I am above their low hitbox
I can’t watch the rest of the video but I don’t think any of the stuff is cheating, I just think it is an easier way of playing.
devcommand is a cheat. The rest are just what's normally labeled exploits.
totally fair take
In answer to your pinned comment: No! None of these are cheats or cheese, until you open dev-commands. Everything else in this video is a TACTIC. Tactics are what gaming is about. Why should anyone play a game "the way the developer intended"?? A good dev, like a good DM, wants you to play the game your way.
I totally agree with you
I personally don't see it as cheating. As you stated, you are using game mechanics advantageously.
Heck ya. I find some are more cheaty than others
@@SpazzyjonesGaming True, but there is worse cheese.
Bone mass is one of the easiest bosses? Why cheese it, lol.
I agree
My thoughts as well, just get the thing to pin point silver why bother.
Because you can! >.
Você pode quebrar o tronco de betula usando outro tronco ao empurrá-lo diversas vezes contra a árvore e depois contra o tronco
correct!
You still can't mine silver without a iron pickaxe so you can't really skip the swamp
true. You can skip bonemass but still need the iron
‘21 mods we should be using’ video when
You might force my hand soon enough I think ill have to first do some modded streams
Dude, killing yourself for the tomb stone corpsrun buff is a Great way to lose All of your level progress. You know that you lose 5% of all your levels every time you die right?
of course I know
You forgot one of the best and funniest tricks. Taming a few grox is effortless and 2-3 are capable of stomping every boss in game in seconds.
true. your tames are powerful!
Is it just me or does bonemass seem waaaaaaay easier compared to a year ago??
not sure. don't think they have changed it at all
а как же дюп с помощью смерти и возвращения лута путём отката сохранений персонажа?) и у тебя остался и в трупике на земле удвоился)
sorry I don't speak the language
I always struggle with the timing of the trolls that carry logs. I always seem to get hit by their attacks compared to the ones without logs who cannot hit me at all.
oh man. the troll logs are WAYY worse than those without IMO
Log trolls require i-frames to dodge a lot of times. It was either their left or right swing that was basically unavoidable except through rolling.
Man never heard the term "glitches and exploits"
ohhhkaaayy
You have never used the YAG cheese! 😂
What do you mean!?
@@SpazzyjonesGaming yagluth prob