Fascinating. The closest analogy I can come up with is that with that 2013 Red Bull Vettel was already set up for the next corner while exiting the previous one. A slalom skier while Webber was more of a downhiller. As good as Hamilton has been in the Merc in the years since, in the fifty years watching F1 I have never seen such dominance as Vettel in that particular car in 2013, and I'm not even counting his three championship years prior. Astounding.
he breaks early , hits apex , revs and accelerate early . maybe that's what he will be his driving style since his childhood days. May be his greatest strength became his weakpoint in the turbo hybrid era
No it wasn’t. He was easily the fastest driver from 2015-2017 and the cars at the time has the most unstable rear end out of any regulations in the 21st century. He was able to challenge the most dominant Mercedes pair on pure pace and nobody else has been able to do that more than once.
no it's the exact opposite. he likes to brake as late as possible and rotate the car as early as possible mid corner to go on to the power as early as possible. this results in a lower speed mid corner but he will get a better exit than others
@@sandalphoncpu he rarely finished in front of a mercedes in terms of pure pace and bar any reliabiltiy issues/crashes... while 2015-2017 were amazing and in particular, he was fantastic in 2017. shame he didn't have the car or more specifically the engine but the following year he did have those things. a shame once again that when the car was good enough, vettel wasn't.
@@no1washerezz “rarely finished ahead of Mercedes on pure pace” is better than none like everyone else. It would’ve been more if Ferrari didn’t throw away the win in Australia and Canada 2016. What you said later was ridiculous simply because whenever he had the fastest car in 2018, he won 99% of the time. The only times he didn’t win due to his own fault was Germany. Other times he was either screwed by Verstappen and Ferrari strategies like in China, Azerbaijan, and Italy. Don’t forget he could’ve won in a much slower car that year in Hungary, Singapore, Russia, and Japan if Ferrari had the brains to give him a good strategy.
@@nandilemsweli6943 I hope Aston Martin is patient with him and develop a car that is tuned according to his driving style soon. They are really slow. The Mercedes another low rake car is still at the top despite the rule changes so Aston Martin should be at least in the top 8 every race.
Where have all these kinds of analysis went? I miss all these. Nowadays you don't see these sort of analysis anywhere, except for the Aero parts and all in the regular sky broadcast.
@@fintonmainz7845 exactly..and Rob Wilson is a whole complete package. . I am learning from both of them really.. Do remember watch his old videos too when Sebastian was dominating and when Ricciardo became his teammate
@@nandilemsweli6943 back during the V8 era, the concept of blown floors and diffuser were totally abused by Redbull. the higher you rev the engine more exhaust is created, thus more downforce generated. trail throttling basically is just ever so slightly keeping your foot the the gas pedal to ever so slightly accelerate, with the revs slightly higher than letting go of the throttle and also not spinning your wheels of course. With the SF1000 being developed around Charles Leclerc and his oversteer driving style it makes sense that Vettel had an bad time with the car
You need a very stable rear to reap the benefits of this technic. Although RB doesn't have the highest top speed during '10 to '13 Seb can drive faster during mid corners.
He likes keeping the throttle on in the corners, and the reason is because in his redbull he had the blown diffuser, and therefore exaust gasses made downforce and added speed.
By 2014, the exhaust aperture was moved into the car's centerline and nowhere near the rear diffuser, negating any bit of aero effect from the exhaust gasses. Instantly became against Seb's style.
@@nandilemsweli6943 thats true but in all those years ferrari never got stable rear just adrian said in the interview, rb had one and ferrari didnt had one
@@da5385 The problem for Vettel is that all cars have moved away from the characteristics of the blown diffuser cars, it's not just Ferrari. When you watch lap comparisons nowadays, the biggest difference is actually made in the entry of the corner by brake timing and precision. I don't think Vettel ever was the strongest in braking or corner entry, he made up for it by making the corner square and gaining time on the exit. With these modern cars you can't really gain the time back at exit once you've lost it on entry.
@@C3lloman if he was able to drive the car how the hell did he compete with Lewis and mercedes for championship. He was competing with a ferrari. So that proves he can drive the car well if he gets the changes he needed from the team. That was missing in the last year's at ferrari. At ferrari engineers are king and drivers are treated like workers they can easily replace one of the reasons they dint win a championship in recent decades. So do some research about how f1 works before spreading misinformation.
Tbh if I look at 2020 ferrari it weirds me out how different the cars looked to drive between leclerc and vettel. I doesn’t like anywhere like the same car between the pair of them
Hey Nandile! This is a great video! Do you have any similar analysis for Leclercs driving style? Also, whats different between his and Max's driving style?
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Fascinating. The closest analogy I can come up with is that with that 2013 Red Bull Vettel was already set up for the next corner while exiting the previous one. A slalom skier while Webber was more of a downhiller. As good as Hamilton has been in the Merc in the years since, in the fifty years watching F1 I have never seen such dominance as Vettel in that particular car in 2013, and I'm not even counting his three championship years prior. Astounding.
So true. Vettel and thee RB9 were just untouchable. The closest we've seen Hamilton to that is in the W10
he breaks early , hits apex , revs and accelerate early .
maybe that's what he will be his driving style since his childhood days. May be his greatest strength became his weakpoint in the turbo hybrid era
And always spin
No it wasn’t. He was easily the fastest driver from 2015-2017 and the cars at the time has the most unstable rear end out of any regulations in the 21st century. He was able to challenge the most dominant Mercedes pair on pure pace and nobody else has been able to do that more than once.
no it's the exact opposite. he likes to brake as late as possible and rotate the car as early as possible mid corner to go on to the power as early as possible. this results in a lower speed mid corner but he will get a better exit than others
@@sandalphoncpu he rarely finished in front of a mercedes in terms of pure pace and bar any reliabiltiy issues/crashes... while 2015-2017 were amazing and in particular, he was fantastic in 2017. shame he didn't have the car or more specifically the engine but the following year he did have those things. a shame once again that when the car was good enough, vettel wasn't.
@@no1washerezz “rarely finished ahead of Mercedes on pure pace” is better than none like everyone else. It would’ve been more if Ferrari didn’t throw away the win in Australia and Canada 2016. What you said later was ridiculous simply because whenever he had the fastest car in 2018, he won 99% of the time. The only times he didn’t win due to his own fault was Germany. Other times he was either screwed by Verstappen and Ferrari strategies like in China, Azerbaijan, and Italy. Don’t forget he could’ve won in a much slower car that year in Hungary, Singapore, Russia, and Japan if Ferrari had the brains to give him a good strategy.
Agreed, great video Nandile!!! :) Seb needs a specific car to win. So does many other drivers, like Kimi.
Yes. it made him untouchable at Red Bull. I haven't heard of another driver that drives with a similar technique
No. Rotating the car is a technique. That doesn't mean he cannot be good with other cars. But he prefers to rotate the car very early.
@@nandilemsweli6943 Jacques Lafitte, Mark Surer.
@@nandilemsweli6943 I hope Aston Martin is patient with him and develop a car that is tuned according to his driving style soon. They are really slow. The Mercedes another low rake car is still at the top despite the rule changes so Aston Martin should be at least in the top 8 every race.
schumi was the same way
Where have all these kinds of analysis went? I miss all these. Nowadays you don't see these sort of analysis anywhere, except for the Aero parts and all in the regular sky broadcast.
I agree. We miss out on so much information
Check out Peter Windsor.
Because we have to look beyond traditional sources... And have to dig a bit deeper...
@@fintonmainz7845 exactly..and Rob Wilson is a whole complete package.
. I am learning from both of them really..
Do remember watch his old videos too when Sebastian was dominating and when Ricciardo became his teammate
Sebastian likes trail throttling mid corner. Its a habit he created back in his Red Bull Days
That's interesting, I've never heard of trail throttling, please explain
@@nandilemsweli6943 back during the V8 era, the concept of blown floors and diffuser were totally abused by Redbull. the higher you rev the engine more exhaust is created, thus more downforce generated. trail throttling basically is just ever so slightly keeping your foot the the gas pedal to ever so slightly accelerate, with the revs slightly higher than letting go of the throttle and also not spinning your wheels of course. With the SF1000 being developed around Charles Leclerc and his oversteer driving style it makes sense that Vettel had an bad time with the car
Basically vettel mastered the blown diffuser technique
@@thelegendformula6695 absolutely
You need a very stable rear to reap the benefits of this technic. Although RB doesn't have the highest top speed during '10 to '13 Seb can drive faster during mid corners.
He likes keeping the throttle on in the corners, and the reason is because in his redbull he had the blown diffuser, and therefore exaust gasses made downforce and added speed.
It's almost as if his biggest strength became his greatest weakness
@@nandilemsweli6943 That is actually true. I miss Sebs prime :(
By 2014, the exhaust aperture was moved into the car's centerline and nowhere near the rear diffuser, negating any bit of aero effect from the exhaust gasses. Instantly became against Seb's style.
Me too!
Definitely. The rule changes affected both him and RedBull
best video i've seen about seb's driving style. ( here after monaco 2021😃)
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video
@For Others 😎😜
He still drives like he's driving a blown car that's the issue. He can't deal with an oversteering car.
True his driving style was perfect for that Era
@@nandilemsweli6943 thats true but in all those years ferrari never got stable rear just adrian said in the interview, rb had one and ferrari didnt had one
@@da5385 The problem for Vettel is that all cars have moved away from the characteristics of the blown diffuser cars, it's not just Ferrari. When you watch lap comparisons nowadays, the biggest difference is actually made in the entry of the corner by brake timing and precision. I don't think Vettel ever was the strongest in braking or corner entry, he made up for it by making the corner square and gaining time on the exit. With these modern cars you can't really gain the time back at exit once you've lost it on entry.
True and the Sf90 and SF1000 were very unstable on corner entry
@@C3lloman if he was able to drive the car how the hell did he compete with Lewis and mercedes for championship. He was competing with a ferrari. So that proves he can drive the car well if he gets the changes he needed from the team. That was missing in the last year's at ferrari. At ferrari engineers are king and drivers are treated like workers they can easily replace one of the reasons they dint win a championship in recent decades. So do some research about how f1 works before spreading misinformation.
Brake, Point, Accelerate.
Tbh if I look at 2020 ferrari it weirds me out how different the cars looked to drive between leclerc and vettel. I doesn’t like anywhere like the same car between the pair of them
Great video much needed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Such a brilliant video, learned and enjoyed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
thx for uploading
No problem
Hey Nandile! This is a great video! Do you have any similar analysis for Leclercs driving style?
Also, whats different between his and Max's driving style?
This seems to be a redbull driver thing even max has a similar technique of early breaking and high exit speed
How Seb drives his car?
3 words: FWD
0 confidence in the sf1000.
Agreed, the rear was too weak
He was bad in his last year at Redbull.
@@fintonmainz7845 yeaup. He was wayy too comfortable with his car in 2013. Sudden change in the car characteristic caught him bad.
7:40 siren sounds like an animal dying
That's a bird lol
That ferrari had such an unstable ass
Better than Hamilton and verstappen
Yeah at spinning.
3:05 the lady watching from the back creepy af
Yes
Eesh! Perhaps that is her spot in that room in the office and her computer screen is located in a way there.
😅
ferrari is a shitbox
Washed