What is a Combiner?

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  • Transformers Discussions Episode 25
    In almost every series, Transformers tend to merge with each other. Is every multi-part Cybertronian a combiner? If not, then what IS a a combiner anyway?
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  • @Kaspergaling
    @Kaspergaling 4 роки тому +100

    Anybody remember an episode when Optimus Prime and some other autobots disguised themselves as Stunticons, and they were also able to merge into an impostor Menasor.

    • @demonking86420
      @demonking86420 2 роки тому +16

      hehehehe amogusor

    • @optillian4182
      @optillian4182 2 роки тому +19

      @@demonking86420 Menasus

    • @brianmcclure4913
      @brianmcclure4913 2 роки тому +8

      Men-a-sore? Dude, whoa...

    • @usamazahid3882
      @usamazahid3882 2 роки тому +11

      I do. It's Masquerade. And the Decepticons were so busy in devastating the Autobots, they never bothered to examine the ruby Ironhide had sabotaged.

    • @OfficialTGUB
      @OfficialTGUB Рік тому +8

      It was my favorite episode when I was younger, I loved it.

  • @mwo79
    @mwo79 6 років тому +39

    Easiest to describe Combiners, “Individual bots who combine and their shard personalities traits form the personality of the combined mode.” Which is why Devestator is dumb compared to his individual bots, Predaking is a unrelenting killer, and Computron takes forever to compute an answer.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +8

      Pretty much the subject of part 2 which is halfway finished.

  • @Werezilla
    @Werezilla 6 років тому +132

    I'm sure we all remember this infamous line.
    THERE GONNA BUILD AN ARMY OF COMBINERS!

  • @lastgamer64
    @lastgamer64 6 років тому +212

    Devastator: HA HA IM THE MOST POWERFUL COMB- (get squashed) Metroplex: As you were saying? Im not really a combiner but im big!
    Devastator: (fires gun)
    Metroplex: *WHY DO YOU FIRE AT ME?*

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +22

      LOL!

    • @PlanetZoidstar
      @PlanetZoidstar 6 років тому +10

      LastGamer64 Last You'll find out soon enou-*BWAHAHAHAHA!!!*

    • @rocekth
      @rocekth 6 років тому +5

      Fortress Maximus crushes them both

    • @charlottewillis5738
      @charlottewillis5738 5 років тому +8

      I really wanted Metroplex when I was a kid, but got what I saw as the next best thing, Fortress Maximus.

    • @riquihess1299
      @riquihess1299 4 роки тому +1

      @@RodimusPrimal Yea lol

  • @MrSheckstr
    @MrSheckstr 6 років тому +135

    I would define a combiner as more than one sentient robot that when merged form a single entity that has its own sentience and personality. Thus any character that has drones like Primes roller is not a combiner

    • @skyjack5676
      @skyjack5676 6 років тому +12

      This is the purest explanation and the only one that fits most TF story lines in my opinion.

    • @warlordsquerk5338
      @warlordsquerk5338 5 років тому +2

      Yeah. Basically, something similar to devestator. I would add that a combiner has between 5 and 6 robots and ideally have them sized like a typical autobot or decepticon

    • @Always_on_Cue
      @Always_on_Cue 5 років тому +5

      I agree, roller counts as an extension of Optimus just like his trail. Their all the same being like Skylinx. I've heard people veiw headmaster's as combiners. I totally disagree, it's two self aware beings forming a partnership. To me I see combiners as a group of singlings that have a extra special ability to form together to make a stronger and self aware being.

    • @notch2157
      @notch2157 4 роки тому

      I just think the sparks get smacked together like
      💚💚

    • @michaelpiatkowskijr1045
      @michaelpiatkowskijr1045 Рік тому

      I wonder if Transformers like Prime and Skylinx would be split personalities. I do see the point with the master series. In a way, they are combiners as a second actual robot merges with another. On the other hand, it's either the head, gun, or a power pack of the larger robot. They are also not robots. They are an organic person in a suit that becomes apart of the main robot. With the exception of Fortress Maximus and Scorponoc, the main robot is a Transformer and has a personality. At least in the TV series, these two robots were cities that could transform. They were controlled by an organic person. In the TV series, a Transformer did make up the head of Fortress Maximus, but Spike controlled the body.
      Now, in the sense of the masters as combiners, they had to work together. During Season 4 of G1, the head masters and target masters did work together. Sometimes, the main robot did its own thing and the person was there for the ride. In the case of the head masters, the body could not stay in robot mode when the head separates. Target masters have no gun without their person. The big combiners could operate with one missing component as seen with Defensor.

  • @megatron2171
    @megatron2171 6 років тому +173

    lol i thought you and diamond bolt agreed to not speak of the BEAST

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +54

      I didn't say it's name. That was the agreement. lol

    • @megatron2171
      @megatron2171 6 років тому +13

      RodimusPrimal i wonder if you mentioned the name in the video then bolt will teleport inside your house

    • @Nothin2seehere-e4z
      @Nothin2seehere-e4z 6 років тому +3

      Jin Kwon
      I try kill it with fire, but it won't die.

    • @supersonicmario56
      @supersonicmario56 6 років тому +10

      The only "Beast" I know of are Beast Wars and Beast Machines
      though it wouldn't hurt to mention Volcanicus . . . .

    • @JohnDoe-bv5dc
      @JohnDoe-bv5dc 5 років тому +6

      wtf is that?

  • @endersage3514
    @endersage3514 6 років тому +129

    I might as well say it...
    *THEY'RE GONNA BUILD AN ARMY OF COMBINERS!*

  • @dfrankpt
    @dfrankpt 6 років тому +279

    I've never understood why some people are obsessed with seeing the dinobots combine. Part of their mythos is that they're powerful without needing to combine.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +48

      I couldn't agree more.

    • @hendrayudhapratama1027
      @hendrayudhapratama1027 5 років тому +13

      so, do they ever combine? i have a vague memory of them being a combiner, but since it didnt mention in the video (or maybe i just miss it) i though my memory just messed up.

    • @rashb3994
      @rashb3994 5 років тому +13

      @@hendrayudhapratama1027 Yes they do. I just saw it on the video The Basics of Grimlock by Chris McFeely at 11:41 mark. He shows the clip and says which series its in. I was excited because I'm one of those people that has always wanted see it.

    • @rushalias8511
      @rushalias8511 5 років тому +11

      Probably because power rangers. The rangers main robot type has always been dinosaurs and they often combine into a near unstoppable robot warrior

    • @rjc7289
      @rjc7289 5 років тому +10

      @@hendrayudhapratama1027 There is a new version of Dinobots (I think it might be the Masterpiece editions) that combine for form a super-robot called Volcanicus.

  • @halopro8958
    @halopro8958 4 роки тому +38

    Combiners are cool and all, but when there’s like 50 of them they stop being special. There should only be like 4 or 5 of them.

    • @RhetoricalGamer
      @RhetoricalGamer 3 роки тому +2

      Who would you keep?

    • @dontcaremate
      @dontcaremate 3 роки тому

      @@RhetoricalGamer id be fine with only devastator

    • @scader_shot
      @scader_shot 2 роки тому +5

      @@RhetoricalGamer If I could choose I would keep devastator, predaking, bruticus, menasor and abominus for the deception combiners and superion , defensor and computron for the autobots combiners

    • @ebransc09
      @ebransc09 2 роки тому +1

      “There can be only one”
      Devastator

    • @7ponta271
      @7ponta271 2 роки тому +5

      Meh, no, i like variaty, have a pool of many options tô chose the one that i like more is pretty good

  • @ironhorsehistorian9871
    @ironhorsehistorian9871 6 років тому +29

    My favorite Combinders
    1. Bruticus
    2. Devestator
    3. Predaking
    4. Defensor
    5. Superion

    • @검은색-c1v
      @검은색-c1v 4 роки тому

      Where manasor

    • @XeviousD
      @XeviousD 4 роки тому

      Japanese G1 Combiners:
      1. Raiden
      2. Liokaiser

    • @ironhorsehistorian9871
      @ironhorsehistorian9871 4 роки тому

      윤원인 MY favorites, not YOUR favorites:)

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 3 роки тому

      Bring in volcanicus, an official dinobot combiner

  • @Jizzlewobbwtfcus
    @Jizzlewobbwtfcus 4 роки тому +5

    This video did my head in. Not because of your intense research (seriously impressive dedication) but because how bad these companies were at coming up with new ideas.

  • @BrotherApexx
    @BrotherApexx 6 років тому +55

    Favorite Autobot combiners that I didn't see enough of: Protectobots/Defensor
    Favorite Decepticon combiners: Predacons/Predaking.
    Favorite combiner moment: "Prepare for extermination!" -- Devastator, Transformers: The Movie

    • @disposable_hero1725
      @disposable_hero1725 5 років тому

      Predaking got a Lightsaber.

    • @covanime
      @covanime 4 роки тому

      @KILLING⚡HEROS i remember seeing the movie when I was 10. It was dope as hell. Devastator Dinobot fight was Dope, Prime joining fight was dope (you got the touch....) damn I may rewatch this week.

    • @covanime
      @covanime 4 роки тому

      Yes , I think Predaking was koolest looking combiner.

  • @diegos7337
    @diegos7337 6 років тому +14

    I agree with your concept of combiners, but I think not all transformers should have that ability.

  • @ronnyclayton194
    @ronnyclayton194 4 роки тому +9

    Combiners were a great idea to make the g1 cartoons much more interesting.But from Hasbro's point of view it was a gimmick to sell more toys.The only complete combiner I owned in the mid 80s was bruticus even though I owned the leader/centerpiece to many others like silverbolt,motormaster,hotspot,and razorclaw.so I had a ton of heads,hands and feet because the centerpiece came with all the combiner açcessories.I also hate that I didn't own any contructicons because devastator was my favorite combiner in the g1 cartoon plus he was the only one that utilized 6 regular size figures.

  • @HistoMagouri
    @HistoMagouri 5 років тому +37

    "Why am I under investigation, I'm not a dinobot..."

  • @lo1bo2
    @lo1bo2 6 років тому +26

    That was a well done, informative episode. As a Transformers fan, I pity any complete newcomer who tries to comprehend all of the many series/iterations/storylines/timelines in the mythos. It's enough to make your head spin!

  • @duke2go558
    @duke2go558 6 років тому +65

    Great video. And NO all Transformers should NOT have the ability to combine... Though Hasbro seems to think differently. And thank you for not covering the monstrocity that shall not be named... 😂

    • @joachsworld6364
      @joachsworld6364 6 років тому +3

      Mike Moskway the beast

    • @olvacron22
      @olvacron22 6 років тому +2

      The beast within

    • @duke2go558
      @duke2go558 6 років тому +3

      Yeah guys, I knew what it was called... The point was to NOT name it haha

    • @Sonlirain
      @Sonlirain 5 років тому

      @Matrix29bear They can't be all winners.

    • @thegraveraptor
      @thegraveraptor 5 років тому

      I saw that thing and while I wanted to know what it was, I think I'm better off not knowing

  • @OptimusPrime-lo5ej
    @OptimusPrime-lo5ej 4 роки тому +8

    When someone asks me who is your favorite combiner besides devastator
    Me: devastator...
    Them: no besides devastator
    Me: NOTHING BEATS THE DEVASTATOR! NOTHING!!!

  • @maximalsilverlioness5633
    @maximalsilverlioness5633 6 років тому +38

    Till All Are One. ✌

  • @thataverageguy826
    @thataverageguy826 5 років тому +8

    Michael Bay ruin the combiner

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 3 роки тому +1

      But they did Infernocus right

  • @slappybio1686
    @slappybio1686 6 років тому +16

    I think combiners is a neat concept it makes you want to buy them all!!!

    • @laurentecrivain6944
      @laurentecrivain6944 6 років тому +2

      While it took some time, I have all of them that were released in the G1 series.

  • @Fenris30
    @Fenris30 4 роки тому +10

    I love that when Predaking Merges he actually mass shifts Bigger.

  • @bagsikdangal
    @bagsikdangal 6 років тому +12

    To be honest, the Beast's combining process reminded of John Carpenter's The Thing. One could say the Dinobots in that story actually fused and not really combined making the Beast more of a fusor rather than a combiner.

  • @kal0247
    @kal0247 6 років тому +21

    The best place to get Transformers news👍👍👍👏👏👏👏👏

  • @rockysolid4200
    @rockysolid4200 4 роки тому +8

    “And last but not least, is this unmentionable thing.”

  • @Grimlock1979
    @Grimlock1979 6 років тому +13

    Combiners are the coolest.
    But, as with everything: if it is overdone, it becomes lame. So should every Transformers have this ability? Hell no. That would diminish the awesomeness of the G1 combiners.
    My favorite is Predaking.
    #2 Abominus. (He's doesn't get mentioned enough and I think he's underrated)

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      Abominus doesn't get the attention he deserves.

    • @gman4736
      @gman4736 5 років тому

      @@RodimusPrimal he was the first combiner I had. I didn't have cutthroat, and I made blot, cindersaur, and battleslash Autobots

    • @fireflare908
      @fireflare908 4 роки тому

      I like abominus a lot

  • @TerryTurner
    @TerryTurner 6 років тому +16

    ...yeah, why can the Decepticons can fly? Can't wait for that video.😉

  • @DominusTecum316
    @DominusTecum316 6 років тому +13

    That is so much details that you gathered. Not even going to ask how you have possessed so much info on this combiner topic. That was to much info for me. You lost me after G1 Transformers that you mentioned. That sea combiner I never heard of it. Applause for all the work you did on this topic.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +4

      I had most of Piranicon but they are all broken and missing pieces now. Some of the post G1 combiners are awesome.

    • @cedsims7400
      @cedsims7400 4 роки тому

      Im with you i didnt know there was so many some i never even heard of and im a transformer fan from back then til now but i wished they wouldve started out the movies like the cartoons kept everything original

  • @rodimus7926
    @rodimus7926 6 років тому +12

    I have the original Devastator set, its quite a delicate but awesome figure

    • @Shockfactor22
      @Shockfactor22 6 років тому

      Rodimus just to be curious, why is the G1 combiner toys so delicate? I dont own any so I am curious.

    • @rodimus7926
      @rodimus7926 6 років тому +1

      Lets just say you have to treat it like a baby

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +2

      G1 toys were very intricate and detailed. They hadn't yet learned what works and what didn't. This led to kids using their imaginations on action poses. The combining with Devastator would lose how well it stayed together with normal wear and tear on the toy. I'm sure this is why they came up with how they fell apart in fiction.

    • @donnadotson2591
      @donnadotson2591 6 років тому +2

      Rodimus, why u get Optimus prime killed, when Optimus freaking prime tells you to get the frag out of the way, you get the frag out of the way!

    • @rodimus7926
      @rodimus7926 6 років тому +3

      And when you have a clear shot you take it, you don´t have to talked about itt

  • @jaysilverhood1264
    @jaysilverhood1264 6 років тому +5

    Ive always called the Drone Combiners as well... "Drone Combiners" or "Singular Combiners" besides that great work and insight as always Primal.

  • @iamtheomnimonkey
    @iamtheomnimonkey 6 років тому +5

    A combiner is when 2 or more Transformers, (each with 3 modes, robot/beast + alt mode/beast + combine mode), merge to create a gestalt entity.
    The gestalt entity has its own unique name, its own unique personality, (which is the result of the individual personalities merging), and the gestalt is more powerful than the sum of its parts.
    Sky Lynx is not a combiner because he is 1 mind, 1 personality, that is shared between 2 bodies.
    Reflector is not a combiner because the 3 bots only have 2 modes, and there is no evidence of their minds merging.

  • @darthcoconut
    @darthcoconut 5 років тому +2

    On the subject of combiners, do you have any idea as to how Optimus Prime knew the exact weak spot to Devastator that then made him split up in to his sextet constructicon components? I'm guessing Teletraan 1 did a technical analysis. Its funny this has never been touched upon again in any media or nobody has never questioned it, regardless if the answer was obviously Teletraan 1.

  • @unstoppableExodia
    @unstoppableExodia 6 років тому +10

    Hooray another high quality transformers discussion video from rodimus primal.
    I loved the combiners when I was a kid watching G1. They were really well animated, shame the toys couldn't match the look and range of movements shown in the animated series but that just meant I had to use my imagination to fill it in when playing with them. I had a devastator set as a kid and it was really delicate. Too much for the sort of rough and tumble play that kids would subject it to. But in the animation it was good that they gave the combiners a weakness that would see them fall apart when hit in the right spot as that was useful for kids playing with a combiner as it worked well with the delicate bonds between the combiners. It's funny how I remember playing with transformers made me feel more like a director than anything as I was in my mind scripting the action in line with the rules set out by the show so there had to be a reason for conflict (couldn't just be I feel like shooting up some deceptions today, hur hur hur), characters couldn't swap factions at will without some sort of logical explanation and any crossovers with other toys would need some sort of logical explanation too. In fact the more that I recall this, the more that I realize that this is probably one big reason why folks who grew up watching G1 absolutely despise bayformers (for the most part). When I watched revenge of the fallen and saw that garbage heap that Bay passed off as devastator my reaction was the same as how my younger self would have reacted if some cynical jackass had glued some trash together and tried to pass it off as devastator when playing transformers.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +4

      unstoppableExodia I agree that using our imagination back then went so far for toys with less posability. I still love the combining as a gimmick, I just wish that it remained special for certain teams.

  • @Superion247
    @Superion247 6 років тому +8

    Thanks for the information, I've always wanted to know more about gestalts. And I think that the constructions should be rivals of the aerialbots. Since superion and devastator make good rivals.

  • @nitrisprime8963
    @nitrisprime8963 6 років тому +8

    I loved it when you showed a picture of the thing that will not be named, for a second I thought I was watching a Diamond Bolt video

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      He and I agreed not to say it by name. See my Dinobots video for details.

  • @mikejohnson8304
    @mikejohnson8304 6 років тому +6

    I was waiting for this video for a long time thank you very much I’m glad the next episode you are doing is more in depth about the origin I’m really looking forward for protecorbot and The bots starscreen made

  • @superroboted
    @superroboted 6 років тому +6

    Great video!! Informative!! I cant wait to see what else you will add!!

  • @PurpleRanger
    @PurpleRanger 4 роки тому +1

    I've been coming up with combiner teams for over 25 years! Many inspired by Power Rangers Zord formations! With some additions that have the teams consist of 9 instead of 5 members. Sometimes the zords' names are good enough for the Autobot name, too! Like Thunder Loader, Star Racer, Pyro Rescue & Med Rescue.

  • @moonwatcher4047
    @moonwatcher4047 4 роки тому +5

    Am I the only one who realized he forgot about Safegard? Aka Jetfire and Jetstorm from Transformers Animated? 🤔 I love those bois XD.

    • @edseaman5282
      @edseaman5282 4 роки тому

      Also forgot about Omega Prime from Transformers RID.

  • @vinniemoreno704
    @vinniemoreno704 5 років тому +2

    My buddy from school had these in 4th grade.Made up for not having a Dad.

  • @Usagi2380
    @Usagi2380 6 років тому +9

    Magnaboss was in beastwars 2 and was made by combining Lio Junior, Skywarp and Santon

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      Cool. Different names than the one released here in the US. Still an interesting toy.

    • @Usagi2380
      @Usagi2380 6 років тому +1

      Yes Lio Junior is Lio Convoy's son and Skywarp and Santon are Lio Junior's guardians

  • @BladeCrossEXE
    @BladeCrossEXE 5 років тому +2

    You know it's bad when Ask Vector Prime denies you even exist. Why did they think The Beast was a good idea?

  • @CRocketSlim
    @CRocketSlim 6 років тому +6

    As a G1 fanboy, I'm a bit opposed to the Dinobots being combiners etc., but now that I have the PotP figs, I can't help but love how well they pulled off Volcanicus. Guess that's another vid

    • @laurentecrivain6944
      @laurentecrivain6944 6 років тому +1

      I agree, they are a bit unstable and uncontrollable as individuals, I can't imagine combining all five of their personalities together, even if their combined body would likely be unstopplable.

    • @roselynalejandrino4724
      @roselynalejandrino4724 3 роки тому +1

      @@yjaydenl we do not speak of that abomination.

  • @cronocomics
    @cronocomics 5 років тому +2

    It is one of the most complete videos i have seen about combiners. Great job!

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  5 років тому +2

      Thanks! I made a part 2 as well with the mind of a Combiner.

    • @cronocomics
      @cronocomics 5 років тому +1

      Thank you, I am checking it right now.

  • @tstevens90
    @tstevens90 4 роки тому +3

    Cool video. Most of those "combiners" came after my time but it looks like they got carried away and a bit lame. The real combiners were the teams and not the mix of any/everyone. Decepticons had the coolest; Predaking, Bruticus, and gotta show love to the original Devastator. Those "power-up duo" types are not combiners at all. From all the sets shown it looks like they were trying to milk the idea pretty badly and looks like they were losing their cool factor.

  • @JUSLOFI
    @JUSLOFI 6 років тому +11

    Transformers RID Fire Convoy and Ultra Magnus... Combiner or Not Combiner?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +5

      Combiner, even if only one made of 2.

    • @lightdragoon88
      @lightdragoon88 6 років тому +1

      RodimusPrimal wouldn't combiner of 2 bots be a power link?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +3

      Yes, but it depends. If they merge in both body AND mind (even if slightly broken like Menasor) then its a combiner. The Powerlink of Energon is a gray area I may cover next time.

    • @PrimusProductions
      @PrimusProductions 6 років тому +1

      +RodimusPrimal So you consider powerups that involve more than one individual to be a combiner?

    • @HouseholdWheel
      @HouseholdWheel 6 років тому +1

      so would Cybertron Optimus savage claw mode be a combiner? even though leobreaker is still sentient?

  • @bennylaser
    @bennylaser 6 років тому +4

    Great and complete description of the combiners' team along many section of the entire TF series
    10+

  • @notch2157
    @notch2157 4 роки тому +2

    Jet pants shoulder optimus prime that’s hilarious!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @jerrybeckettdd
    @jerrybeckettdd 4 роки тому +4

    The Combaticons are my favorite. So far I've only collected 3 of them, Vortex, Swindle and Blast Off. I still need Onslaught and Brawl.

    • @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
      @jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 Рік тому +1

      I hear ya. I've had every Protectobot except Groove for years. But even if I get him or a replacement I don't have any of the hardware that came with them.

  • @thehenrymig7411
    @thehenrymig7411 6 років тому +8

    Brilliant video as always

  • @MichaelAlexKawa
    @MichaelAlexKawa 6 років тому +3

    Awesome and informative video, and no I don't think all Transformers should be able to combine, cause if they could the series should just be called Voltron. lol
    As for what I consider a combiner, I guess it would be a larger robot made by two or more separate robots, and for me they would also have to have a different head in the combined form, so the Powerlink bots from Energon would not count, nor would Optimus using Jetfire's body from ROTF.

  • @crustypaladin
    @crustypaladin 6 років тому +6

    Fantastic video! More discussions please!

  • @5crownsoutreach
    @5crownsoutreach 4 роки тому +3

    this is very thorough and a great analysis too. I've been a fan since their start, but even I wasn't aware of all these combiner robots and their variations. Well done here. I would say the need for a combiner really came out of the smashing success of guys like Voltron which came out in 1984, which sort of passed up the interest of any single transforming robot. So I would say that mold set the quintessence of the genre, and from there lesser versions of that theme popped up like super versions, and double robot modes, etc. These cartoons basically set the mold of what a fantastic cartoon should look like for the rest of time.

  • @NOWrunAMOK
    @NOWrunAMOK 4 роки тому +3

    Combiners should be a team, with a theme, with alt modes that merge into one entity........the rest should be called “Link Mode” transformers if they can merge with anyone

  • @Getloose360
    @Getloose360 6 років тому +8

    This video is excellent. Back in 84 when I saw the constructicons merge I was in awe. Vehicles that transform into Robots that combine together. The play value was and is just epic. Takara Tomy 👏🏾👏🏾👊🏿👊🏿

  • @dombee4396
    @dombee4396 6 років тому +2

    Who else thought diamond bolt would appear when rodimus started to talk about the beast

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      We agreed not to mention that thing by name.

  • @larryalmeida3267
    @larryalmeida3267 6 років тому +4

    Great video I did not know that they made more combiner robots after the original G1 series was over , thank you .

    • @GladDestronger
      @GladDestronger 6 років тому +1

      in g1 besides the ones in the g1 cartoon there's piranhacon (seacon combiner), monstructor (pretender monsters combiner), raiden (trainbots combiner), dinoking (dinoforce combiner), and many more.

  • @justagundam
    @justagundam 6 років тому +12

    3:45
    That's just funny.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +2

      You mean Rumble takes it. Love that episode!

    • @justagundam
      @justagundam 6 років тому +1

      RodimusPrimal I would like to see a Dinobot combiner, but change it to where they don't make a huge humanoid robot. Rather a giant kaiju like robot like Trypticon, but an Autobot.

    • @aleronhawk
      @aleronhawk 6 років тому +1

      I cant unsee that afterwards

    • @anywaywhatever5153
      @anywaywhatever5153 4 роки тому

      ArcticKaiju that should be a gif

  • @RaptorofRex07
    @RaptorofRex07 6 років тому +6

    Awsome video

  • @Benjamin0119
    @Benjamin0119 2 роки тому +2

    This is a great video! Oh man, combiners are awesome! I have Devastator, Superion, Menasor, Defensor and Bruticus, but my Defensor doesn't have all his comininer armor parts, just the hands and feet.
    Those teams are definitely combiners. Drone commanders aren't, and others helping Optimus get a rocket pack or cannons etc is just teaming up to assist Optimus, not a combiner, per se. No not all Transformers should have this ability.
    11:18 And what the hell is this?! Damn it, Japan! You can't leave robots alone either?!

  • @alphaprime8880
    @alphaprime8880 6 років тому +7

    Love ur vids bud

  • @TransKingFormers
    @TransKingFormers 6 років тому +4

    great video like always my friend combiners are one of my favorites in transformers and i have been collecting all the combiners wars and titan return combiners

    • @TransKingFormers
      @TransKingFormers 6 років тому +1

      also this a combiner video i made many years ago i hope you enjoy ua-cam.com/video/yqbKzc0KEYE/v-deo.html

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      I always loved this video. Thanks again!

    • @TransKingFormers
      @TransKingFormers 6 років тому +1

      your welcome :)

  • @hobgib9741
    @hobgib9741 6 років тому +3

    I hope in the future the combiners can transform, like: Devastator can transform into a wrecking ball and crane, Menasor into monster truck, Superion into space shuttle, and Bruticus (sorry for misspelling) into battleship, and etc.

  • @DavidSamuelBl10
    @DavidSamuelBl10 6 років тому +2

    I'm a big mild-autistic fan of Transformers G1, & G.I. Joe (📺 Series):When i was 4 back in NYC on Ch. 11 WPIX, If any y'all asked me personally.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      WPIX was like the channel to watch for cool stuff back in the day. Remember the 2 day Godzilla - thon?

    • @DavidSamuelBl10
      @DavidSamuelBl10 6 років тому

      RodimusPrimal Only Godzilla Bash 1994 on TNT in Miami, Fl, to tell the Truth.

  • @akadayo
    @akadayo 6 років тому +4

    "Bruticus...Devastate...Devastator..."
    REKT

  • @MrSammersELsoho
    @MrSammersELsoho 5 років тому +4

    Ahhh the beastwars combiners haha good ol days

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 4 роки тому +3

    For me Combiners/Ghestalts only 'count' as such instead of 'multi-part units' if each part could function as its own unit with its own alt mode. So units like skylinx or that one dinobot with drones don't count because they simply have added parts (ditto omega suprime.)
    That camera doens't count because all of the parts seem to be a group mind that happen to form parts of an alt mode instead of each functioning as their own person.
    Favorite decepticon combiner: Predaking
    Favorite Autobot combiner: ... I honestly never liked the autobot combiners.
    As for... THAT... Monstorsity
    No. Just. No. I don't care if it is in a comic IT DOES NOT ExiST.

  • @gazuhiramiller
    @gazuhiramiller 5 років тому +2

    Defensor: i can make a force field
    me: BECAUSE YOUR NAME IS DEFENSOR HAHAHAHAHA

  • @brobot500
    @brobot500 6 років тому +3

    Ah, a video I’ve been waiting for a lil bit!
    Much thanks Rodimus!

  • @jenniferphipps2012
    @jenniferphipps2012 5 років тому +3

    Four Common Teams:
    * Combaticons*
    *Protectobots*
    *Stunticons*
    *Aerialbots*

  • @Cha1bs
    @Cha1bs 6 років тому +4

    This channel really is amazing! The citations, references and examples - absolute gold!

  • @thefreddyshow9144
    @thefreddyshow9144 5 років тому +4

    “What is a combiner?” A transformer that dances with chickens

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse 5 років тому +3

    Who is your favorite combiner? Mine are Devastator and Menasor.
    Anyway, my take on combiners is the definition and bias shown to them in recent toons and books. One of the few modern concepts I enjoy. it makes sense to fear the merging of autonomous robotic organisms. Machines without consciousness would be no big deal to merge. However, they have individualism feared to be lost and corrupted by merging. A "sickness" of wanting to combine into a greater whole. Bloody brilliant.

  • @maskedriderweaver4122
    @maskedriderweaver4122 6 років тому +2

    Ok, first I love this video, but this is a topic I am a bit...passionate about, so I apologize in advance if I come off hot blooded or rude, and also if I get long winded. The problem is the difference between combining and merging. In the G1 series, the term combinatics was created and referred to the Gestalt Combiners: Devastator, the Scramble City Combiners, and so on. These teams MERGED into not only a single machine but a single individual mind. Therefore the Combiners are machines with their own unique minds. Optimus, Reflector, and the city or otherwise giant Transformers were single minds that could control forms composed of multiple parts or smaller machines. By this definition, they are NOT Combiners. In the case of the Masters (Head, Target, and Power), these are what I like to call the first example of Power Linking (yes, that is referencing the Mini-Cons of Armada AND the Aubotbot combos in Energon). With Power Linking, one being combines with another physically but not necessarily mentally, and one being is clearly dominate over the other. The Head Masters of the cartoon worked WITH their Transformer partners, they didn't MERGE to become a new single mind. The Mini-Cons of Armada were often forced to bond with other Transformers, whether directly or out of necessity, and had little to no say as to how their powers were used. Even the Star Saber, Skyboom Shield, and Requiem Blaster, each composed of a team would answer to the one holding them usually, regardless of their own feelings. The Autobot combos of Energon likewise had one Autobot bolstering the power of another, but the combo was not a merging into a single being, one was clearly shown mentally dominate. With this in mind, it is difficult to call the combined Transformers of Animated true Combiners. Despite their various combination, many times it appears that the component Transformers are simply working together, and are not a combined mentality. However, I am sure other people have their own interpretations and I would like to hear them, so please let me know what you think.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому

      I for the most part agree. Though, the Mini-Cons of Armada merging did so with a single mind of being used by whomever holds them still constitutes a Combiner, but Powerlinking to an Autobot or Decepticon does not count. I kind of agree with you on the Energon bit though it is a gray area there. My next video will talk about the gestalt mind in addition so I am doing research for it now.

    • @maskedriderweaver4122
      @maskedriderweaver4122 6 років тому

      I'm glad we agree, and that I wasn't too much of a jerk about it. This is a topic that I have strong feeling about, and sometimes I come off far more opinionated than I mean to. If I may suggest some things for your next video, the gestalt one, I have some data about some of them you may wish to use or perhaps verify. First, about the Seacons and their combined form Piranhacon (hope that's spelled right, too tired to go look at my old notes). According to the Marvel comics that had bios about the Transformers, every one of the components could assume not only arm or leg form, but that each one also became a different weapon for the gestalt to wield. Second, Piranhacon is not the only Target Master gestalt. When the Action Masters were first released, there was a normal size Devastator figure among them. I remember reading somewhere online that after becoming Action Master, the Constructicons found that they could no longer form Devastator so were actually building an Action Master clone of him, which would help explain the figure. Its been so long that I have forgotten where I read that so you may wish to verify that. Btw, when were the Action Masters renamed or reclassified as Target Masters, and does that include the ones with vehicles.
      Oh, one last question, where did you get that pic of the four gestalts with the mixed up components shaking hands? I want to get a copy so I can use on my desktop! lol

  • @totallynotanfbiagent-3078
    @totallynotanfbiagent-3078 5 років тому +3

    0:22 when your friend takes off their glasses

  • @CC0292
    @CC0292 Рік тому +2

    I'd say for a transformer to be considered a combiner the combine form must have its own identity seperate from the individuals used to make up the combiner body. Rather than a single speaking transformer with four drones.
    And to answer the question about if all transformers should have the ability to combine: no. I've always viewed combiners as a specialised team of a collective theme such as Bruticus being comprised of military vehicles, Defensor of first response vehicles, Devastator of construction vehicles and Superion of air vehicles. Having a large amount of transformers having the ability to combine just seems like it'd just be a pointless power up move to help shift the tide of battle.

  • @IamMarkSmith
    @IamMarkSmith 5 років тому +3

    This was well done. Very informative. For me I stopped watching TF after G1 Season 4 with the Targetmasters and Headmasters. I feel Hasbro has gotten in the way of great lore and storytelling trying to sell toys and ends up ruining great concepts by overdoing them in the name of sales. I also wish the U.S. and Japanese storytelling cannon were more consistent. It seems like we missed out on a lot of cool stories and characters never introduced in the U.S. and Canada. That was a missed opportunity for them. Also them not following the original comic book lore or taking bits and pieces from it made things a bit confusing. Marvel Productions and Hasbro had so much more they could have done after Optimus Prime’s return at the end of G1 Season 3. Keep up the great work!

  • @VinzUnhackableYT
    @VinzUnhackableYT 5 років тому +1

    Cog + Sideswipe is a combiner Rodimus Primal. Well I am Ultra Rodimus Primal

  • @Mokiemomo
    @Mokiemomo 6 років тому +6

    Hi rodimus. Great video

  • @OISIMONE1
    @OISIMONE1 2 роки тому +2

    11:20 "...always provided a lot of Fun and playability..."
    well I'm seeing the "fun" you like friend ಠ ͜ʖ ಠ

  • @stephencastro4723
    @stephencastro4723 6 років тому +3

    Yeah! Thanks for this one! i really love the Combiners!

  • @davediaz9230
    @davediaz9230 6 років тому +1

    OK have a few things to point out
    According to the G1 cartoon, It is pronounced “Hun g-ARE” not “ Hunger”
    I do not believe it’s for fans to say what can be considered a combiner, if Hasbro says something is a combiner and labels the item a combiner then it is a combiner, and apparently that includes nameless drones
    I cannot believe you completely forgot the micro master combiners, two robots that would form a single vehicle… Which in my opinion is very similar to reflector, So if the MM combiners were considered combiners by Hasbro I cannot see why reflector would not be
    And if the mini cons that form weapons or Shields Canby call combiners then again I do not see a logical argument against reflector
    And in my opinion anything that utilizes combiner technology and is formed by separate characters then it should be called a combiner
    I think the real issue here is that combiner is confused with Gestalt

  • @aviatordanz
    @aviatordanz 6 років тому +5

    Combatacons are my favorite

  • @chrisfugate3503
    @chrisfugate3503 4 роки тому +2

    I know this is an old video but I love the combiners too.
    I'm about to mention a team that has only appeared in a japanese sequel to g1...the 6 trainbots the actual rival to the constructions

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  4 роки тому +1

      They merge into Raiden. I'd love to see them get updated and not just their announced MPs.

  • @williamtaylor1855
    @williamtaylor1855 4 роки тому +2

    What about omega prime when ultra magnus and optimus prime combine in Transformers robots in disguise 2011 are they considered a combiner

  • @AnonEyeMouse
    @AnonEyeMouse 6 років тому +1

    When I look at the later versions of the combiners... I begin to see where the Bayformers came from.

  • @dragonx3711
    @dragonx3711 6 років тому +5

    #NOTMYGRIMLOCK (Old rid)

  • @pathofthedragon
    @pathofthedragon 5 років тому +3

    My favorite combiners were the Seacons and Technobots. The Seacons were cool in the comics.

  • @magicmariotv7772
    @magicmariotv7772 5 років тому +3

    18:01 Diamondbolt approved

  • @ZZtheDark
    @ZZtheDark 6 років тому +1

    Images of stylized robots in the first few minutes starting with the 2:31 courtesy of Shinya Ohira (yes,that Shinya Ohira of that one scene in Howl's Moving Castle with those dancing colors) and 2:53 courtesy of Go Nonaka who would go on to design everything for Zyuranger which would then become MMPR Season 1,both veterans of Studio OX.
    We could talk about Studio OX in a discussion video too.

  • @rodimus7926
    @rodimus7926 6 років тому +5

    If only Hasbro make a reboot of the G1 cartoon with the combiners instead of the Cyberverse

  • @theimperialcombine
    @theimperialcombine 6 років тому +3

    So Rodimus I'm not sure if there is an answer to this but how did the Combaticons went from WW2 vehicles into post war vehicles? Like brawl went from a Sherman tank into "According to the wiki" a Leopard 1

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      I think Starscream had something to do with it.

    • @edwarddeguzman3258
      @edwarddeguzman3258 5 років тому

      In the episode, they just morphed into the new versions, but to give a techno babble response, the forms could have been loaded into the memory of the modified vehicles so that when the "sparks" , for lack of a better term, were loaded in they were morphed into a new form, much the same way Rodimus got a trailer when he got the matrix or when Optimus Primal became Optimal Optimus with the matrix, just not as powerful

  • @patroclusilliad233
    @patroclusilliad233 6 років тому +8

    Didn't you know Primal, according to Ask Vector Sigma, that...unmentionable thing's universe/timeline was consumed by Unicron...it doesn't exist anymore...technically it never did.

  • @drextube3841
    @drextube3841 3 роки тому +2

    18:00 "Is THIS. UNMENTIONABLE. THING!!!!" XD

  • @georgelea4297
    @georgelea4297 6 років тому +3

    Awesome video as always Rodimus keep up the amazing work

  • @MarkDemeo
    @MarkDemeo 6 років тому +2

    It seems to me that the whole combiner idea was maybe over used a bit. When new teams are constantly being made,it makes the whole idea less special. I don't think all transformers should have this ability,wasn't this something that was done recently where autobots that weren't normally part of a combiner team were made a combiner?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +1

      Pretty much with the Prime Wars Trilogy, they made almost EVERYONE a combiner. I agree, and it might be something the next video will cover.

  • @Kieran_JSL
    @Kieran_JSL 6 років тому +38

    11:20 wtf is your problem Japan?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  6 років тому +8

      I almost spit out my water reading that and seeing what you were referring to laughing so hard.

    • @davediaz9230
      @davediaz9230 6 років тому +1

      May I ask what you’re talking about?

    • @ijn4438
      @ijn4438 6 років тому +1

      Femme Decepticon Combiner Team it seems like. I also had the same reaction.

    • @Clankatron
      @Clankatron 6 років тому +3

      I see no problem with this

    • @YarugumaSou
      @YarugumaSou 6 років тому +1

      Galvatron1026 Same.

  • @jetsilveravenger
    @jetsilveravenger 4 роки тому +2

    I've owned the Generation One Snaptrap since I was a kid and he's still in great condition. I'd love to be able to track down the rest of the Seacons.

  • @dannyvestal299
    @dannyvestal299 6 років тому +3

    Thanks Roddy..nice video

  • @joelbaldwin4051
    @joelbaldwin4051 5 років тому +1

    I like how Swindle sold the other Stunticons for used parts in the episode "B.O.T.". That was hilarious.