that was fun! mr blue stopped at 90 a few months back - just checked / about stroker cranks, the rod length will not make a significant difference to side loading. for example: an 84 stroker with stock rods has a side loading of 1 then 5.3,5.5,5.6 and 5.7 increase or decrease side loading by the following %'s: +2,-2,-4,-5. those %'s are essentially the same for my 76 stroke motor and are only slightly less but still round to the same %'s for a 69 stroke. you want to build a 2332? that's 94x84. good luck fitting that in the engine compartment after you've put a 5.7 rod in it for that extra 5% side wall loading reduction just because mr vacuum cleaner who didn't graduate from HS told you to. i'm done ranting for a while. i got some things cooking for mr blue. just need the weather to warm a bit and some free time. spring break is coming up in about 3 weeks.
I love the rants! They’re relevant and factual. Like I said, there’s always a need for myth busting in the VW world. Have fun when the weather warms up and thanks for those vids.
😂I I figure a few people would check! Well I started an informal “90 degree” club and you’re in it now LOL. I figure 10 degrees of variance should be allowed. Thanks Sistahs
Thanks Tony B. It was news to me. Seems legit though after reading some comments. Just don’t get too hung up on if yours lands on 90 hahaha, even though I still check mine every time 😂 not gonna lie.
Cool video man with a great piece of vw knowledge 👍. Good disclaimer on not getting caught up on the fact that it may not stop on 90 every time 😂. Mine seems to deviate from 90 the harder I run the motor and hotter it gets. I can vouch that it will make you crazy and you will lose sleep over it if you get hung up on it.
Yeah I think there are too many variables to get hung up on it, but it does appear to be a legit concept. But I still check mine every time 😂. Maybe I shouldn’t have put this info out there LOL but like you said I did warn them.
Rambus got a good run! No wind 92 is impressive for any Bus. You gotta get out like that and burn those carbon deposits off every now and then 😎 I still use the ol’ “unclogging my jets” excuse when I drive it hard.
@@campervanbug7658 I think this vid proved that we always have something to learn. Seriously, NO ONE around here knew about this except for the store owner who doesn’t even have a VW 😂. I’m gonna have to go by there and give him his props.
isnt 90n degrees when the crank rod journals are verticle?. engine switched off and the final cylinder hits the compression stroke then tries to compress but doesnt make it...90 degrees is half way up the compression stroke isnt it?
I like the normalcy of ya theory and my bug agreed 😂 I'm amazed how tight the motor is. Solid compression, no play and at 51 yrs a true 71k miles I'm only the third caretaker it's had.
That’s cool man, another member of the 90 degree club 😎. Seems like when they’re built correctly with the older quality parts that can happen. But now they’re trying to sell $6200 long blocks made with crappy parts. It’s crazy!
Is what is.. finding a good builder with a actual reputation isn't too hard but too many people got more money than brains n click till they see a price they like.
I looked inside (after the vid) and the cam lobes were all in a “relaxed” position where none of the cam lobe noses were putting any pressure on the lifters, while at 90 degrees.
@@zundfolge1432 That’s what it appears to be. It’s funny how no matter how many times or years I look inside a VW engine these little things don’t get noticed. We got it now though! 🤙🏼
As far as carb size goes it depends on your engine size. For single carb 1600 I like the Weber 40 IDF. It costs more than the Empi 40, but I haven’t met an Empi 40 yet that doesn’t leak from the galley plugs. If you do get an Empi, you have to upgrade the hardware inside of it with Weber stuff just so it’ll work right and not leak fuel into your case. If I had a single carb 1600, I’d run the Weber 40 IDF. With that being said, it wouldn’t surprise me these days if it leaked too because they just don’t make anything quality anymore. Bottom line is the Weber might not leak, the Empi certainly will. Now this is talking about 40’s. I’ve ran several Empi 34’s that never leaked. I run dual Empi 34’s right now and love them. Best setup IMO for anything under 1800cc is dual 34’s with the CSP bellcrank linkage. Plenty of power and great on gas.
Yes. I’m not afraid of the Empi 34’s WITH REDLINE HARDWARE ONLY. Maybe I got lucky but I’ve seen six different 34’s NOT leak, while I saw 3 Empi 40’s leak in that same time frame. Maybe it’s luck of the draw. But if you’re just trying to get up and running then the Empi 34 with redline hardware should do well enough for a 1600
Great observation and thinking outside the box ! Subscribed
Much appreciated. As I’ve been learning about VW’s this was a cool one for sure.
It goes to show you're never too old to learn something new
I just went to school today👍🇩🇪
Me too! I knew nothing about it hahaha. Kind of embarrassing at my age but I’ll take the hit if it solves this mystery LOL
Man thats interesting. I gotta go check mine now haha. Love your channel content and youtube U.
Thanks Tecate. Let me know when it lands and we’ll add you to the 90 degree club 😂
that was fun! mr blue stopped at 90 a few months back - just checked / about stroker cranks, the rod length will not make a significant difference to side loading. for example: an 84 stroker with stock rods has a side loading of 1 then 5.3,5.5,5.6 and 5.7 increase or decrease side loading by the following %'s: +2,-2,-4,-5. those %'s are essentially the same for my 76 stroke motor and are only slightly less but still round to the same %'s for a 69 stroke. you want to build a 2332? that's 94x84. good luck fitting that in the engine compartment after you've put a 5.7 rod in it for that extra 5% side wall loading reduction just because mr vacuum cleaner who didn't graduate from HS told you to. i'm done ranting for a while. i got some things cooking for mr blue. just need the weather to warm a bit and some free time. spring break is coming up in about 3 weeks.
I love the rants! They’re relevant and factual. Like I said, there’s always a need for myth busting in the VW world. Have fun when the weather warms up and thanks for those vids.
You had me run out and check mines and I'm on 90 degrees. AWESOME info.
😂I I figure a few people would check! Well I started an informal “90 degree” club and you’re in it now LOL. I figure 10 degrees of variance should be allowed. Thanks Sistahs
Saw this vid when first released but my engine wasn’t installed. Well, got it back in and running and sure nuff it’s a thing…..90deg BTDC
Another member into the 90 degree club. Glad you’re up and running!
Very interesting, good info, thanks 😊
My gosh you made me go look. After weeks of resistance. And yes my first build passes the 90° test 😊
Turns out that the 90 degree club is a thing, and you’re in it. Congrats for a first build! 💪🏼
Very interesting. This is all new to me.👍
Thanks Tony B. It was news to me. Seems legit though after reading some comments. Just don’t get too hung up on if yours lands on 90 hahaha, even though I still check mine every time 😂 not gonna lie.
Cool video man with a great piece of vw knowledge 👍. Good disclaimer on not getting caught up on the fact that it may not stop on 90 every time 😂. Mine seems to deviate from 90 the harder I run the motor and hotter it gets. I can vouch that it will make you crazy and you will lose sleep over it if you get hung up on it.
Yeah I think there are too many variables to get hung up on it, but it does appear to be a legit concept. But I still check mine every time 😂. Maybe I shouldn’t have put this info out there LOL but like you said I did warn them.
Hey Mike ! I took Rambus out on a county rd. and checked the mph and with no wind it got to 92 mph .
Rambus got a good run! No wind 92 is impressive for any Bus. You gotta get out like that and burn those carbon deposits off every now and then 😎
I still use the ol’ “unclogging my jets” excuse when I drive it hard.
Thats probably were a VW engine clacks at . Every once in a while there's one that is internally quite but not that often .
Yes, if I didn’t hear a clack I’d be suspicious of what wrong, like if it didn’t drip oil 😂
I was today years old when I first heard of this 🤔
HBD 🎉🎉!!!
😂me too. Hopefully this video can get to the bottom of this subject once and for all because I’m still not 100% sure it’s true
A healthy engine stops at 90. Nice information. Very true. 👍
Thanks vipergreen! I’m glad to hear that from you because I know you know the VDubs 🤙🏼
@@bomberobus
I'm still learning, just like you.
Every time for me also
Thanks for the comment because it strengthens the argument that it’s an important indicator of engine health.
Just got back from picking up parts for me bug and seen you're notification👍
Cool man thanks! Come to think of it , I’ve never asked to turn notifications on…I’m still a YT rookie 😂. So thanks again!
@@bomberobus I just got a good phone and downloaded an editing app, I'm gonna give this stuff a try and see what happens 😅
@@campervanbug7658 I do it ALL from a phone. YT is the best for VDubbers to share! The old school knowledge needs to be preserved 😎
@Bombero Bus VW I'm a green student with a huge grin when it comes to the v dubs
@@campervanbug7658 I think this vid proved that we always have something to learn. Seriously, NO ONE around here knew about this except for the store owner who doesn’t even have a VW 😂. I’m gonna have to go by there and give him his props.
isnt 90n degrees when the crank rod journals are verticle?. engine switched off and the final cylinder hits the compression stroke then tries to compress but doesnt make it...90 degrees is half way up the compression stroke isnt it?
Yes I’m pretty sure that’s the “mid-stroke” position. I’m glad I had that case to look inside!
I like the normalcy of ya theory and my bug agreed 😂 I'm amazed how tight the motor is. Solid compression, no play and at 51 yrs a true 71k miles I'm only the third caretaker it's had.
That’s cool man, another member of the 90 degree club 😎. Seems like when they’re built correctly with the older quality parts that can happen. But now they’re trying to sell $6200 long blocks made with crappy parts. It’s crazy!
Is what is.. finding a good builder with a actual reputation isn't too hard but too many people got more money than brains n click till they see a price they like.
Love the dog
Thanks David. That’s my Maui Girl. She makes sure she’s in every video and does NOT miss a ride in the VW’s.
Dog is in its 90* relaxed state!
the stoppage point could also be the cam installed as well...duration?
I looked inside (after the vid) and the cam lobes were all in a “relaxed” position where none of the cam lobe noses were putting any pressure on the lifters, while at 90 degrees.
compression usually stops it. guessing 90 is the last half stroke
@@zundfolge1432 That’s what it appears to be. It’s funny how no matter how many times or years I look inside a VW engine these little things don’t get noticed. We got it now though! 🤙🏼
Any recommendations on a replacement single carburetor?
As far as carb size goes it depends on your engine size. For single carb 1600 I like the Weber 40 IDF. It costs more than the
Empi 40, but I haven’t met an Empi 40 yet that doesn’t leak from the galley plugs. If you do get an Empi, you have to upgrade the hardware inside of it with Weber stuff just so it’ll work right and not leak fuel into your case. If I had a single carb 1600, I’d run the Weber 40 IDF. With that being said, it wouldn’t surprise me these days if it leaked too because they just don’t make anything quality anymore. Bottom line is the Weber might not leak, the Empi certainly will. Now this is talking about 40’s. I’ve ran several Empi 34’s that never leaked. I run dual Empi 34’s right now and love them. Best setup IMO for anything under 1800cc is dual 34’s with the CSP bellcrank linkage. Plenty of power and great on gas.
This is great info! I think to keep it simple and cost effective for now is to go with a Redline 34pict 3 carb and just get my bug running right
Did you go with the dual empi instead of the Weber because of the price and the fact that you can just upgrade it yourself with the redline kit?
That’ll be a good start for sure. Redline hardware is on my Empi 34’s. The redline stuff is awesome.
Yes. I’m not afraid of the Empi 34’s WITH REDLINE HARDWARE ONLY. Maybe I got lucky but I’ve seen six different 34’s NOT leak, while I saw 3 Empi 40’s leak in that same time frame. Maybe it’s luck of the draw. But if you’re just trying to get up and running then the Empi 34 with redline hardware should do well enough for a 1600
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