How to control probes far away in space with relays - Kerbal Space Program 1.2
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2016
- So how do these newfangled relays work in KSP 1.2? Here's a short tutorial for you.
Sorry about the weird audio stuff at around 8:00 ... no idea what happened there :(
Matt Lowne's geostationary tutorial: • KSP 1.2: How To Create...
Kerbal Wiki for synchronous orbit numbers: wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wi...
More Info about the entire telemetry feature: docs.google.com/document/d/1T...
Music:
"Rocket Power", "Jarvic 8", "Your Call" and "Hypnothis" © Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0
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Great video man, and thanks for the shout out :)
Also, major kudos for pronouncing my surname correctly, most people thinks it rhymes with "cone" :P
HI MATT LOWNE!
Matt Lowne oh yea Matt lowne
You could also say people think it rhymes with "loan"...
Oh silly me I thought your name rhymed with alligator
Hey matt loan
There are some serious soundbugs at 7:30 until 9:00
yeah, no idea what happened there. It's even in my video editing software, so there must be a deeper problem than just a glitch during encoding :(
this must be the power of the kraken!
The Kraken has learned to get out of the KSP, someone kill it before it spreads outside of the game!!
What do you use to edit?
kinda relieved others heard that too, thought i was going mad
You ever consider building massive refueling stations around the Mun or Minmus? Possibly even Duna or Dres. Places for small probes or maybe even bigger manned missions to refuel or even perform crew transfers. Could even have landers built into cargo bays for missions to pickup and drop off again mid mission to save fuel
+Astronomer1994 actually I have. Watch my "Operation Moonsucker" series, where I set up a mining and refuel base on and around Minmus: Operation Moonsucker: ua-cam.com/play/PLLGqKphkhc2CyJ-K-PSUtje1-zrw7aUz8.html For Dres I would recommend using the asteroid belt as a source for fuel
The best way to find geosynchronous orbit is to be in circular orbit with an orbital period of 6 hours, 00minutes, 00seconds. I use the orbit info window in mechjeb to find the orbital period.
I'm loving these frequent videos! Keep up with the good work!
+SporessauroAstro thanks! Not sure if I can keep up this frequency.
I found that whilst building my moon base, My sections became disconnected in orbit due to connection loss. I fixed the issue by launching two separate relays in high polar orbit of the moon, Giving me consistent 24hour connection.
Thanks for the thorough tutorial!
Thank you for your genuinely handy video! You just got a sub.
How are you opening the dishes up with no signal?
illuminati confirmed
Limited control allows you to toggle parts
i find that higher polar orbits ar better in maintaining connection to a probe. also having two satelites roughly opposite each other helps keeping connection.
ive tried setting up relays and have quite a few, even with green lines and 100% communication as soon as im behind the mun i have no control over the probe... is there something i need to enable to allow for bounced signal relay control?
Could you do a guide on what antennas give the greatest science boost for different distances from Kerbin?
Love it, thanks :D
How do the Dmagic Oversize Signals Intelligence Satellites fit in for the calculations?
I like making really elliptical orbits but the min and minmus get me so I make them polar
Im using the big Communitron one at minmus and it still says Im not not connected. I cant even make it to orbit without needing an antenna, any help would be greatly appreciated.
i guess my sun orbiting mpl will be out of service for awhile sorry Kerbals no direct TV for you for a while, sorry
I have no probe control despite having proper comms even around Kerbin. Plus the existing links around kerbin are white rather than green for some reason...Please help
Great video once again ShadowZone .. The document you linked to in the description is no longer available :0(
how does it work when you put things into orbit around the sun? I put a satellite into orbit around the sun and had no control so I put a relay satellite in the same orbit which had signal back to kerbin but the other satellite still has no control. This network stuff confuses the hell out of me lol
My probe loses all control in between Mun and Minmus orbit I have batteries and the big folding relay in the video idk what the problem is
Thanks for the video. Have you tried a probe with multiple small antennas extended to see if that works better? I ask because I see the word (combinable) on the description and am just wondering if that can boost range.
Also, I've heard of being able to have a pilot in a craft with a relay antenna act as a ground station for control. Have you been able to do anything like that or is that not a feature?
yes it works
How do I find out how much battery to put on a relay when used with the
lab and the Survey Scanner ? The RA-2 spec says it uses 24 charge/Mit.
But how do I figure out how much data the science lab (full of 500
science) and the Survey Scanner will transmit through the relay ? I see nothing about this in the wiki.
just put loads of battery and solar power
In the newest kerbal, would stock work for deep space relays or comms or would a mod be needed?
Stock works for that since 1.2 I think. I made a video about that back then: ua-cam.com/video/95W6NpEeI2I/v-deo.html
You did not consider were the planets in there orbits were in relationship to Kerban. Close or far, make a huge difference.
i cant click annotation on my phone, can you use youtube editor?
When I go to the moon and I have a bunch of satellites near and all the other satellites have connection but then it says no probe control?!
so can you use any Antena and or satellite as a relay I need to now I play career and science mode on ksp more than sandbox
+one-stop killing nope, the HG-5 and all RA series antennae are capable of bouncing signals, the rest can just communicate with the next hop in a network.
you did the right thing, instead of making a whole new video, just show another persons good video.
do you need a special type of antenna for this to work or can it just be any?
+something unorigonal the antennas have to be relay capable. If you check the part description in the VAB it takes you which ones are.
hi i play on carier mode and i dont have this panel on the top left next to time.
u succ then
tnx so much i couldnt control my duna rover even with lots of relays
Trying to do this with extra ground stations turned off but it appears not to be possible. Does anyone have a way to setup a relay network wit just having the KSC as a ground station?
you just have to have geostanary
or a bunch of sattelites
Can i control probes from planetary bases without connection to the KSC?
If I remember correctly, the base needs a command module with 2 pilots and/or a large probe core and a relay antenna to work. It's been a while since I did this.
Do the new signal features only work in career mode? They don't seem to work in my science save from 1.1...
I haven't tried old savegames yet. But all the footage in this video is from a new sandbox save.
Doesn't have to be career mode, but it is one of the difficulty settings and is set to off by default for old saves. You should still be able to go back to the settings and turn it on though.
SkyrimHod ShadowZone Figured it out already by making a new save, but thanks for the help anyways! :D
Has anyone been able to power the large Oversized Signal Intelligent Satellite? They take a massive amount of power (687.5/s) but their range is HUGE 1.58Tm
Wait, how do you access the cheat menu?
Techno ctrl+m?
what means the percentage value of the signal strength and are there any disadvantages if its below 100
as long as you have at least 1%, you have full control. It's basically an early warning system to make you aware that you are about to leave signal range.
And you only get (when you signal strengh is 1%) 1% science if you transmit it.
Hi Shadow Zone I've need your help pls pls reply, I totally loved this 1.2 update and the communications really made probes as probes, but I've been using KSP 0.90 and it works well without lagging on my pc of 2gb RAM, 2.40 Ghz Processor and 256mb Video Memory, but when I downloaded 1.0.4 and 1.0+ versions there was a texture issue, I opened Space Centre and some of the buildings were little bit blacker and when I went to VAB some parts were having incomplete textures while other parts were completely black. I dont know whats happening, but someone told me try the 1.2 update, so can I try it on my PC, and also I tried reducing graphics settings in 1.0+ versions way too low, but still it doesnt work. It might be a software issue. But PLEASE HELP ME I NEED YOUR HELP
sorry, not really sure what is going on with your game. Have you tried the Squad support or the support forum? I am afraid I cannot really help you there.
ShadowZone I tried contacting the Squad support but no reply came anyways thanks for your reply and I love your videos keep up the good work
i was wondering why my probes did not work after a while thanks
a slightly more efficient way toget signal behind the mun would be to put a relay at the first Lagrange point which is like 15 - 20 degrees beginf the mun in its orbit or some shit
+shazbot322 as far as I know, since KSP doesn't support n body physics, there are no Lagrange points
+ShadowZone Not technically, no, but in a way this makes it easier: just put a satellite anywhere in the same orbit as the Mun around Kerbin and it can stay there indefinitely (with minor corrections from time to time).
Have you done it ? It seems to me (but I'm not a rocket scientist..) that the Lagrange point would be inside the SOI of Kerbin, meaning that Kerbin would just pull it in.
do we need to have a geostationary orbit for relays to work?
nvm
+GamingWithJose Not really. If you but at least three satellites in an orbit where they are spread out as shown in the video, it will work as well.
ShadowZone thx! I figured it out anyways earlier. Thx anyways! Awesome vids m8!
1.2 isn't on the ksp website. Is this video from the future?
there's a pre-release version ( = beta) available for all existing customers.
This is not working for me.
What version of the game are you using? X86 or X64?
KSP v1.9
Isn't this (also) called a geostationary orbit?
indeed it is.
So has 1.2 released to the public or is it still in prerelease testing?
still in pre-release, public can play it though, on steam
it was released months ago!
fix your audio bro!
you sound like scott manley but if he was german
Hmm.... What fore a pc you have.. I think you should upgrade it
Say somthing to linustechtips you can make there your own pc ! He can make views en you ! Perfect..
Right now hes using the experimental verson when yo leave the solar system for example you get from 60 fps down to 3 fps its happening to everyone but the bugs are gonna get fixed soon
+Hardrive33 oooohhh... Thank you
Oh god I'm already bad enough at the game RIP me
Wagon this can be turned off on difficulty settings.
Ach komm schon
ich hör doch an deinem Akzent dass du deutsch bist ;)
Soweit ich weiß, kommt er aus Österreich
You dont really explain how it works... You just say "bigger antenna, works further out!"
Well it IS a game and I seriously have no idea about communication
technology or the mathematics behind that. That's also the reason why I
mentioned Matt's video since he explains it properly. In the game,
basically you have to look at the "G" value of an antenna to see how
powerful it is. The biggest antennae have "100G", the smaller ones
around 5G or so. The bigger the "G" the better the range ;)
3:10 ;)
First
Isn't this (also) called a geostationary orbit?
geo = earth. So it's not the general term for that.
Geostationary orbit = Will always be on the same spot in the sky, night or day, 24/7 (only achievable at equator).
(Hint as agent_b said, geo means earth)
Geo-synchronous orbit = Will always be at the same spot at a specific time on earth. Earth has a rotation of 24 hours (actually a bit less: Thats why we have a leap year). So it means a satellite will have an orbit that lasts 24 hours.
Synchronous orbit = Just an orbit that is at the exact same spot, at the exact same time compared to it's celestial body. For an example the moon. The satellites orbit MUST take as long time as it takes the moon to rotate once.
A geostationary orbit is also geosynchronous orbit, but a geosynchronous orbit is not always geostationary orbit.
Isn't this (also) called a geostationary orbit?
Geo being the prefix for Earth, only Earth Synchronous orbits are Geostationary.
What about "Kerb-eostationary orbit"? :)
(But I'm pretty sure than in Kerbol's world, geo refers to their homeplanet)
EDIT: We see at 2:35 "Keostationary" which is even more easy to say than what I planned.