What is the Xenomorph HOMEWORLD? - Alien Romulus
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- What and where is the Xenomorph HOMEWORLD? - Alien Romulus
Xenomorph Prime was the fourth planet orbiting the star Achilles 2, located in the Achilles System.
It was the Xenomorph XX121 homeworld, but also home to several other species.
Hidden by twin binary stars, Xenomorph Prime was at least the size of Earth and possessed three major continents as well as a small ocean.
While the Xenomorph population on Xenomorph Prime was ultimately determined to not be indigenous, it was unknown how they arrived there in the first place; whether they were intentionally imported, or part of an experiment that had gotten out of control, or from a crashed ship. Regardless, the Xenomorphs made the world their own and built a number of gigantic Hives, at least one of which housed a Queen Mother.
Locked in a constant state of dusk, the climate was hot and humid, and the atmosphere was breathable for humans.
While the terrain was mostly flat, the planet was covered with shallow salty seas, swamps, and desert wastelands. The areas overrun by Xenomorphs were also covered with Hive resin.
The Xenomorphs on Xenomorph Prime were stronger and quicker than their off-world counterparts, perhaps due to the having access to different hosts.
Initially, all Xenomorphs belonged to a single hive, but after the Super Queen died, they split into two different hives which would not only compete, but were immediately hostile towards one another, and would attack on-sight.
These were the so-called “Black” and “Red” Aliens; which, in the comic books, were represented as having exoskeletons of varying hues, the comics editors have said the colouring was just there to be able to tell the factions apart, and didn't necessarily need to be taken as the second hive literally being Red in colour; likely, as a reference to Black and Red Ants.
The leaders of the entire Xenomorph species, are the rarest type of hive monarch and arguably the rarest type of Xenomorph, full stop, the Queen Mother.
While there have been many Queens, only a handful of Queen Mothers have been known to exist. As their name suggests, they are the highest caste of Xenomorph, above even the Queens.
While the planet featured very minimal vegetation, it did host indigenous animal life, with several avian, mammal or reptile-like species; however, an unnamed species was known to compete with the Xenomorphs, thus becoming their only natural predator.
These creatures most closely resemble Cynodonts, which were a predecessor to mammals, often described as “Mammal-like Reptiles”. They had pale, creamy skin, and blazing orange eyes, with clawed fingers, and quadrupedal.
They could contend with a Xenomorph in combat and were shown clawing into and biting their bodies, indicating that the Acid blood had no effect on them. Their own blood was black in colour.
Instead of being above, or below the Xenomorphs on the food chain, they seem to share the niche and compete, keeping each other's numbers in check.
For many years, the Yautja kidnapped facehuggers from Queens and took them offworld to spread on other planets in order to breed Xenomorphs for hunting. In the 2190s, an expedition led by Billie, Wilks and a synthetic of Ellen Ripley landed on the planet to abduct the Queen Mother, starting a civil war between two young Queen Mothers.
An expedition led by billionaire Daniel Grant to retrieve Royal Jelly in order to synthesise Xeno-Zip landed in the middle of this schism and nuked the Red Xenomorph hive, killing the Red Queen Mother; queenless, the rest of the Red Xenomorphs were eradicated by the opposing blacks. At some point after the events of AVP 2010, the Elite clan headed to the planet for their greatest hunt yet, followed by the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, while Specimen 6 was seen being transported off BG-386 on board a Weyland-Yutani vessel.
The validity of the Xenomorphs having a home-planet depends on whether or not you consider Prometheus and Alien Covenant to be canon. As the comicbooks featuring the planet was made before Prometheus established that David was the creator of the Xenomorph species using the Black goo pathogen, which was created by the Engineers.
Me myself personally, I like to believe that the Xenomorphs are in fact a mysterious, ancient, naturally-occuring species, as I find that to be more mysterious and thought-provoking than having them be created by David, as Prometheus and Covenant say happened.
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Canonicaly it was explained in the Prometheus/covenant novelisations that david did NOT make the xeno, just his version of it. There is a mural of a xeno in Prometheus before they encounter the pathogen. He just tried to make his own version of it.
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Canonically David, "Refined" the Pathogen.
But they say those movies aren’t cannon. Not sure why even make them if they aren’t but that’s what i heard
@@GarbearFitness Hope so.
That was a Deacon
You can see Xenomorph-like figures on the walls of the engineer ships in Prometheus. So David couldn't have created them. He just bred something that was already there. And so the AvP universe still remains plausible...
And also an alien skull inside the predators space craft in the trophy room in Predator 2
The death of Weyland in AvP, on 2007, makes it NOT plausible as we saw it. That messed with the timeline too much.
@@Subpac_ww2 Weyland is a family business... He has family members. After death a Weyland in Prometheus is plausible.
Charles Bishop Weyland ( Lance Hendrickson) built Bishop - Aliens. His son Peter Leyland - (Prometheus) Which was a prequel so... Help me out here lolz! My lil brain cell can't cope 🤣🤣🤣
@@scorpsieorwin5678 i like the way your brain is working lol
I prefer the idea that the xeno is a natural creature from another world we don't understand
Same. The weapon hypothesis is lame
Absolutely
Alien should be "alien"not specifically planned.
I think the lore about xenomorph prime was built on the premier they're natural extraterrestrials and it makes them more mysterious and I like it. However, their ability to reproduce in different ways(ocomorphing, queens laying eggs, royal facehuggers praetorian-queen transformaction) and their short lifespan, at least in case of regular workers fits the weapon hypothesis. I'm not sure which one is better.
*premise *ovomorphing(eggmorphing)
@@AhsokaMorph No reason that life cycle couldn't be considered on a undiscovered world where they are an averaged strengthed creature from their world. I like the idea the engineers were studying them and they ecasped on their ship. Also I really dislike the idea the engineers created like on many worlds. They should have just been a advanced culture that got wiped out by either the alien or predators hunting them.
The original "Alien" was the scariest because the xenomorph was such a mystery with unanswered questions.
Exactly. Not every mystery needs a solution.
There is still a lot we don’t know
The strenuous backstory contortions just don't work. Part of the point of the original was the inexplicability of the beast.
The first film had a great start with excellent camera angles set the mood off brilliantly and the alien was something strange and monstrous. The second film turned them into bugs completely by accident and H.R Giger really hated it.
Prometheus was a poor imitation Giger's work but Covenant brought it back a bit.
Precisely.
That Ridley Scott didn't get this only adds to how unsuitable he was to shepherd the franchise.
Making David the creator of the xenomorph was just an impossibly dumb move.
It amounts to little more than android daddy issues.
I liked the idea that the Xenomorphs are a Natural Species who's true Home World remains unknown.
I can see them theoretically existing as a natural species on a planet where they're considered ants. So miniscule compared to the other lifeforms, this was the only thing they could extract safely
@@daytonsaragosa6790 So the xenomorphs are the lesser evil in a planet of eldritch horrors?! Please, someone make a film based on this idea! A *_decent_* film, not some money grab trashbin.
@@daytonsaragosa6790 they are very ant-like
Xenomorphs seem too virulent and destructive to be natural but then anythings possible on other planets
@@l3ftie578Муравьи трудолюбивы, а эти как трутни, только сидят и ждут когда еда забредает сама.🙄
Following the canonical themes of ALL the films, it makes perfect sense that David is not the creator. He is just another in a long line of people trying to figure out a way to use and exploit the Xenomorphs. The common thread of seeking to exploit a biological weapon still holds even if Prometheus raised a whole lot of questions (for apparently no other reason than to be mysterious).
Why don't they just use a gun? It's like the Jurassic Park problem in the later films lol
@@RussOlson-pl3kf Lol yup. And for the "perfect weapon" the Xenomorphs get their ass kicked in every film.
This is true. The events of Alien took place only 18 years after covenant. The derelict ship found by the Nostromo crew was presumably thousands or millions of years old, as the engineer pilot found in it was fossilized. This means that the original Alien could not have been David's creation. Also, the engineer that seeded Earth was likely using some permutation of the black goo billions of years ago. That is the fundamental nature of the alien: a nanite swarm intelligence that creates and recompiles DNA. It was discovered by the engineers billions of years ago, used to make their ships and seed life across the galaxy, and worshipped by them. A true cosmic horror, or maybe even a "God" that created life as we know it.
Interesting layer. David is just another failed creator like the engineers.
My headcanon is that the Xenomorph is simply a wild animal from a wildly different ecosystem, perhaps being transported on the crashed ship for a simple purpose, such as food, ecological preservation etc. But either way they are from somewhere so different that when encountering humanity they could thrive in the same way the Cane Toad had when introduced in Australia.
I like to believe the xenos to be naturally occurring and studied/ weaponized by engineers.
i like that too
Yes most likely
Same. I also think it's a misconception that the xenomorph is the "true" form of the alien. I think the true nature of the alien is more akin to the black goo or the aerosolized swarm in covenant. It's a nanite swarm intelligence that adapts to it's environment by amalgamating the DNA of creatures it encounters. In most cases it encounters dangerous creatures or ones that wish to exploit it, so it takes the form of an even more hostile creature.
I read the Dark Horse graphic novels when I was younger, before the later movies, and through those publications came to understand that the xenomorph occurred naturally somewhere and that their homeworld likely included other, equally deadly predators to keep the ecosystem in balance.
I still have those dark Horse comics
name of the comics pls
@@MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER The first book I read and owned was called “Aliens: Book One” (1990) by Mark Verheiden and Mark A. Nelson. There was a follow up edition whose cover featured Aliens w individual numbers on them; an attempt to weaponise by some warped military general type I think.
@@MRROLLOSUSHINBURGUER By Dark Horse......Title Aliens vs Predator. Or Just the Alien series.
I want to see a movie of that!
I think the captain of the Prometheus ship was correct in his hypothisis that the outpost they found was military and they found their bioweapons, used to create biological WMD's, AKA, The Xenomorphs
I think both concepts are interesting.
I like the bioweapon angle because it allows for there to be deeper lore that expands the universe, but I also think it's a very romantic idea to have the Xeno being something that has evolved over millennia and is waiting out there to be discovered.
One thing I do wish was delved deeper into, which was touched on in Alien Resurrection, is making the Xeno's more intelligent, and modified via their hosts.
I've always been intrigued by Ridley's original concept to make the Xeno win at the end of Alien and speak with Ripley's voice into the flight log, so that a salvage crew would find the escape pod and be attacked. I find that concept to be really shocking and terrifying that something so ALIEN could replicate human speech and intelligence.
I read that old xenomorph origins comic. It was good, or at least adequate and made sense. Much better than an android inventing them about 20 minutes ago, despite the fact that the original derelict had been there for thousands of years and xenomorph murals being present at the black goo factory.
There's the first xeno queen, she as view as a god for the engineers. He just died of old age and they're trying to clone he's DNA. That's just it. But every xeno just turner into evil beast.
The first one as Smart, could interact and just exist without anything. Just a PRIME form of life.
I think David simply, "Re-created", the xenomorphs. They pre-existed his, "Research". Great video.
I like to think the Aliens are a natural form of life, that the Engineers wanted to re-create in order to be able to control them. With their own mindless and controllable drones they could then use them a sort of elite army to do the dirty work. But of course their experiments to re-create ended up biting them in the rear. *Literally* lol
Aliens are hyperinvasive, parasitic, predatory, hive-social species with overwhelming physical power. Any population suitable to become breeding hosts will be exterminated by them to the last. Such instincts are highly unnatural for parasitic lifeforms which clearly proves that Xenomorphs are constructed bioweapon.
In Alien Bloodlines it’s heavily insinuated they are a primordial and ancient race or bio weapon that is continually discovered and researched by young species leading to their destruction. Alien Dark Descent kinda reinforces this in my opinion when you find the ancient alien city. To top it off the nature of the Engineers and the Black Goo Pathogen makes me believe (and this is just my theory here) that the neomorph creatures that result are just a terraforming mechanism. Mankind would see it as a bio weapon because of how it procreated and it’s behavior but… I think the engineers see it as a tool given they look down on humans as inferior. All David did was continue the trend. I don’t think the ship in the first movie had anything to do with him I think that was the actual “militarized” original strand instead of the terraforming one we see in Prometheus and Covenant.
The amount of vocal fry
Never heard a dude sound so much like a valley girl before.
The unknown is way more scary than man made.
I like to think that the xenomorphs are from a planet that orbits around multiple stars in a star cluster. With an ecosystem so hostile that everything will try to kill anything that moves.
I prefer Xenomorph origin to be an unknown creatures from unknown world because it fit the most basic kind of fear, fear of the unknown. Sometimes less is more, this is one of the case for me
Much better than the Prometheus Line, Aliens and AvP from the Comics had so much RPG potential for a Game, to sad the Project was canceled.
AvP and AvP2 were amazing games! (for their time) - following a single predator, a crew of humans, insane androids working for Weyland and even the whole life cycle of an alien, from a facehugger to eating your way out through someones chest- were there other projects planned?
I like the idea of the Xenomorphs being a naturally evolved species that acts as the galaxy's equalizer. They are the Fermi's paradox incarnate.
I think the author is right having David be the creator of the Xenomorph does kind of cheapen the story. Something so lethal created by human means. Would have made more sense if it was a species of its own or found by the Engineers. I am curious about Alien Romulus if it is supposed to take place between the original 2 films. I like the idea of using a more industrial future on the ships rather than CGI bright and shiny.
That's not what happened though David reversed engineered them. He couldn't have made the ones we see in the original movie that had been sitting there for centuries. Not to mention the ones we see in avp.
Bro Romulus looks like a generic alien movie where a group of people are stuck in a spaceship while being hunted down by the xenos, from what i have seen from the trailer it doesn't impress me at all.
It's the same thing we already saw hundreds of times.
Xenomorphs are an analogy for the unknowns of space. That is why the films are simply called Alien, because the xenomorphs represent every fear that lurks in the depths of the universe that goes beyond human comprehension. Therefore they should remain a mystery, such as other famous fictional characters like the Joker. They’re more of a force of nature than an alien species to be studied and understood
They’re basically extraterrestrial werewolves. No one’s ever asked the question, “where do werewolf’s originate?” because we know that’s not important. They’re paranormal creatures that not supposed to be understood.
I think that the best origin for the Xenomorphs would be to have them be a heavily genetically modified version of a similar naturally occurring creature. Maybe make it so that the Engineers found a species that evolved a way adapt to any new environment by incorporating the DNA of the local fauna into it's genome and then they experimented with it to turn it into a biological weapon by making its blood acidic and making it resistant to the vacuum of space.
I wish there was an undo button for Prometheus and Covenant...
Undo undo undo, to late now were stuck with those crap movies, I think Ridley Scott should be kept at least 100 meters for any alien movies from now on, a kind of intellectual restraining order, its for his own good
He's a drunk I saw an interview with him and the bloke who played David Ripley was shit faced he had no idea what was going on
And resurrection.
Undo humanity. Undo life
Both were shite
3:45 this should’ve been reworded 😭
😂 my exact thoughts
Its good as it is dont be soo sensitive its about aliens not nicks.
@@galax-zee3080 I ain't being sensitive like saying "KYS" or any of that just just worded so wrong bro.
@@galax-zee3080 alright sir, you wouldn’t say that in real life to any black man
@@DistortedDebaser why is it worded soo wrong because it hurts you? Because the first thing when you hear blacks means racism.
Therapist: “Describe your nightmares”
Me:
They blew it up in the books
And im all for that
100% agree, as a Xenomorph fan the species is far better as evolution than created by some other race.
Could be a analogy for invasive species, taked from a coutry to another, with the engineers taking them to use as a bio weapon.
I prefer the theory of artificial lifeform *but* not Prometheus/Covenant style because those two movies were so stupid it hurts.
Rather I present the idea that the creator of the Xenomorph species took inspiration from various insect life like Jewel Wasps and so forth. I'm a huge proponent of 'Egg Morphing', I find that far more terrifying in conjunction with the Chestburster or the way AvP on Atari Jaguar proposes, that Egg Morphing results in an fully grown alien. In either case it's all terrifying. Imagine feeling your body slowly being broken down, painfully presumably, to become an egg.
Thanks for this video on this planet
I think the Xenomorphs being bioengineered and being a rare naturally occuring species aren't mutually exclusive.
There still is a lot of mystery surrounding the Black Goo, and I think it's plausible that David didn't fully create the Xenomorph species entirely from scratch by himself. If you think about it that would be redicolous, as bioengineering is usually very time consuming and even in sci-fi takes decades of research of likely multiple scientist teams and/or university-like research facilities. That means David doing all that by himself is hereby declared nonsense by me. The next question is what did David do then? A complicated question indeed, because he clearly did something and it's not made clear in the movies. The Black Goo is very complicated, even if we take for granted that it's a bioweapon created by the engineers, beyond that it's still a mysterious substance of increadible properties.
There are more questions than answers, I like to think that the Xenomorph used to be a species very different from now and the engineers took parts of their DNA to create the Black Goo bioweapon. I used to think the Xenomorph cannot be a naturally occuring species because too much about them seems to be artifically engineered, now I do see everything around either or being mysterious as well so why not both: a mix of naturally occuring species and bioengineered.
There's so much that strikes me as mechanical about the appearance of a fully grown xenomorph that I've always just assumed that they were intentionally bioengineered to be what they are - perhaps taking a naturally occurring species and modifying them or, if the engineers created humans, using humans as the basis of the first xenomorphs. Another possibility I'd always considered but never seriously entertained was if the xenomorphs are a branch of human evolution from an unimaginably distant time in the future that got timewarped. Whatever the case, I felt quite dissatisfied with the answers that Prometheus/Covenant offered.
David didn’t create them he just created his perfect version of them .
Well given that engineers showed signs of "chest burst". What David did wasn't really create the xenomorphs but modified them IMO.
I prefer the idea of them being engineered on a unknown planet and them just taking over
I like the idea that xenos are naturally occuring things that lay eggs, attach to a host and parasitically bond with a creature to gestate their offspring into a xeno creature that bursts out of the host, but David took that and "perfected" it into it's "human" form which is what we are most familiar with.
The "black goo" is just like the most basic form of the xeno. Starts out as a bacteria or virus or whatever and can effect things like worms or snakes, which is what we first saw in Prometheus with the snakelike facehugger.
I had the comics years ago, sure the Queens had a special group protecting them. Yes remember the lizards eating them, face hugger erupted and was promptly eaten. So good seeing the comic drawing on here. 🙂
It was my understanding that the Xenomorphs where bioweapons created by the Engineers, to be used against the Yautcha.
No to be used for the Yautja to hunt as they wanted the ultimate prey.
@@Tracks2008 or maybe both
The Deacon Alien was a distantly related creature. A creature born when the trilobite impregnated an Engineer. We saw its creation & birth in Prometheus. Its a being that was also derived from the black goo. It (or something very similar) was also depicted on the mural in Prometheus. And yes the Protomorph is David's creation. There's also something called an Ultramorph. It was supposed to appear in Ridley Scott's modern Alien spin off films. They would've been like Deacons with eyes and very Xeno-like features. They would've been pretty huge & very dangerous. With a similar but likely also different life cycle. The way that they were actually created was different than the Xenos we now know of.
It came into existence being born from an Engineer. By means of one being infected or impregnated. At which point the massive being would be born from its host. That could be what was actually depicted in the mural. We don't know for sure. We just know it was something of that nature. Ultramorphs probably predate modern Xenomorphs. Since Engineers apparently created modern humans and all. The Ultramorphs were even more like a large Xenomorph than even the Deacon. Engineers were like 9-10 feet tall. Just imagine how big an Ultramorph born from one would be. Human spawned Xenos are bigger than humans. Yautja spawned Predaliens are larger than Yautja. Just imagine how big an Engineer spawned Ultramorph would be fully grown.
I like the idea xenos were already on another planet & Engineers & Predators took some to other places!
Thus creating weaker strains of their former selves. A Pure Xenomorph would be interesting to eventually see!
The concept has always been so cool! Predators & Engineers too!
Natural species for sure, bc that allows for all the layers of culture, incl. motive, history (what were they like way back when?),etc.
I think David recreated the xenomorph. In Prometheus, we see wall art of creatures disturbingly similar to xenomorphs from ships that are many eons old.
David just made his own version experimenting to make them based on what he knew. Also, that the Deacon could randomly appear so similar but not identical implies a larger and older connection between Engineers and xenomorphs…
As soon as you mentioned the ants I knew that you knew what you were talking about
Ants were a huge inspiration towards the xenomorph as was the moray eel with "Two mouths"
Appreciate people like you pulling the lore together because whilst the movies are awesome they kind of ignore most of the comics and it's just "relatable human + scary alien"
They even gave prometheus the same treatment after talking for so long about how it was going to explain everything lmfao
Like I said, the movies are good and I love them but they've always been going in the wrong direction
Man,people take this shit far to effing serious.
Agree 😂
they really do. The whole lore of this franchise is so confusing i dont know how people get that deep into it?
I like both ideas, tbh. Like reinventing the wheel, except this wheel can decimate planets. At least they were mostly contained on their homeworld.
I think its something like Blindsight, but the xenomorphs were originally sentient but evolved into a sort of hivemind later on after fully integrating technology into themselves
the idea of the xenomorph having a natural predator could be an interesting movie plot point.
Basically you’re asking if we prefer Ridley Scott’s version over Joss Whedon. It’s Joss’s universe all day every day.
Anytime you add humans to the lore it makes it instantly shit....Alien was great because this species was Alien and scary af....the whole point of Alien was WTF is this thing? Back storying it especioally with humans made it crap, and then including Predators.....just no....
That's not what happened though David reversed engineered them. He couldn't have made the ones we see in the original movie that had been sitting there for centuries. Not to mention the ones we see in avp.
Yes, it was a bad choice to make David the creator of the Xenomorphs...it makes a better story them having a home world/point of origin.
I don't think David created the Xenos. I think he tapped into the dna altering pathogen from the viles in the engineer ships which already had the base template dna for them. I like to think David just piggy backed off of the engineer's work. For me this still leaves the question open to whether or not the engineer's are the creators of the Xenos.
So on the topic of David I like to think he didn’t necessarily create the xenomorph rather got ahold of the goo and made several new breeds of his own. He more so expanded on the breeds already present rather than having created them entirely. But maybe I’m missing some stuff
Playing Dark Descent right now and the added lore is making me lean more on the bioweapon angle, since it explains that even their nests are living beings on their own that can absorb organic matter of all kinds (even plantlife). In top of that in one event the marines can get sick with some sort of xenomorph virus/bacteria, which isn't lethal and will only make them more tired. They are presented like some sort of ultimate terraforming ecosystem, even WY is studying them to create better medicine and terraforming tech.
Ha that's what they want you to think. They just want to make weapons.
David didn't create the xenos, he was just the catalyst
Personally i like both ideas. They are the perfect organism, so on one remote hostile world they naturally evolved, but will also be inevitable if you seek to create the perfect organism yourself.
The idea that xenomorphs come from the real depths of space like the Tyranids in 40K is so much more interesting than David being the creator of them.
Like Genestealers (imho a complete ripoff of xenomorph drones) they travel with space wrecks or trading or even pirate ships to other planets.
The Space Jockey in Alien had an open chest right? It was all there in plain sight. He crashed on LV895 Hadley's Hope when it was still a Titan like moon. The premise of Prometheus that it looked like Canada turned into wasteland and was terraformed again was pure waste of potential.
I like the idea they are a naturally occurring critter
Like others have pointed out, David created Protomorphs, imperfect versions of the Xenomorphs.
My personal take from the movies was that the black goo could have been used to create xenomorphs or it could have been a product of engineer science, analyzing and taking samples from the xenomorphs as the Engineers have never rlly seemed shocked or interested by xenomorphs, humans or yautja.
So my personal canon was always more of aliens being a mix of bio-mechanics.
A chicken and the egg situation, I mean after all they adapt to any environment perfectly by taking traits of their hosts.
The xenomorphs could be "The perfect lifeform" or they could be a biomechanical weapon.
Either way, how I see it, it does not matter.
One way or another they are free roaming in the universe now and its everybodies problem.
Whether naturally occuring or a weapon that got out of control, they are here and they are hungry.
I prefer the direction that Prometheus pushed them towards. The precursors to the xenomorph were quite plastic and several factors/events have pushed them to the iconic forms we see in the original alien movies.
I believe that the AVP game released during the ps3 and 360 era ends with the predator heading towars the Xenomorph homeworld..
The Engineers themselves created the Xenomorphs or Serpents as the Yautja call them. They are a bioweapon mean to wipe out anything the Engineers want to wipe out. They were never a natural species as they are bio-machinal. However the Engineers encountered difficulties with their creations and some of their ships would crash on other worlds. The foolish android merely found the blueprints for the Serpents and made an attempt to re-create them but he was ultimately off the mark. You could tell from the very first film they were not ever going to be a natural species.
Like the comic explanation but I’ve always thought of them as a weapon species whether bred or engineered.
If you no other choice but had to choose between being dropped in 1 Yautja Prime or 2 Xenomorph even though we’re screwed either way which one would you go with ?
Man I hope we get to see some red aliens in the big screen someday, the concept of an internal xenomorph war it’s very interesting.
My theory is xenomorphs were naturally created. The engineers were fascinated by its ability to alter its DNA and reversed engineered its biology to create a black goo that would allow things to evolve through DNA mutations. The black goo would be the start and end of life as it would allow DNA to mutate upon being absorbed by a creature and kill off the original inhabitants. However, the black goo will end up recreating the xenomorph eventually. I don’t think David created the xenomorph, but rather he simply recreated them.
Imagine someone cutting up sheet music from a song and that person tried to piece together the song without knowing any music theory or even hearing the song in its original form. What it is pieced together it may not be original song. In fact it might sound terrible or it might sound better than its original format. However, what David did was he took those pieces and arranged them to its original form. He didn’t create the song; he simply rediscovered it.
If Xenomorphs have their own planet , how would they breed? I mean would facehugger lay eggs inside it’s own species?
The Alien movies are a guilty pleasure for me. I know they're bad, but I still eat it up. I wish we could get some good ones though.
Well, the first 2 were really good.
Went downhill after that, but I actually enjoyed the AvP films. Not great films, but a respectable twist on the 2 franchises.
Prometheus being canon? Hah! Good one!
Of course the Xeno is more mysterious and interesting as a truly alien creature with its own world and all.
That wouldn't contradict.
I think David just made his own Zeno but not the true Zeno we all know
I always thought the xenomorphs were made by the predator species designed as the "ultimate hunting" species. As the Xeno's combine with the hosts DNA, this gives the predators a new challenge for each planet. Which explains why they are found dumped in ships on random planets, awaiting to be discovered by whatever species is capable enough to explore the ships.
I read this story or one very much like it in one of those early Alien paperbacks
apparently no one (quite a few) has watched Prometheus, it is very obvious that Xenomorph is just a product of different gene mixed/stimulated by the weapons that are created by our "Ancestors"
Fun Fact!
The Movie Pitch Black was supposed to be Cannon within the Alien Franchise. It was supposed to be set on the home planet of the Xenomorph and showcased their natural environment and why they're "blind" and the creatures were meant to be Xenos
I agree the natural idea vs the david creating the theory of the later movies, which to me were already less special, the lost the magical thing about alien, sure they had fancy graphics, but in the first movies, the aliens embodied fear, in the 2 mentioned movies they tried to show this through gore, but that's also exactly why zombie movies aren't "scary".
Trying to show everything takes all the mystery away as well, while before our own minds filled in the blanks with much more powerful theories and thoughts.
Also the Engineers did not create the black goo. But they were able to replicate it.
I'd rather not know where they came from, the mystery and speculation of where they came from is more interesting than any answers they can give.
David didn't actually created xeno race, they already existed way before as it's shown in the Prometheus murals as someone already mentioned.
He created a more superior variant of the xenos, a stronger species of it if you want.
We still don't know the origins of the aliens and probably we never will, the mistery of it is what makes xenomorphs so interesting, although the theory that the Engineers created xenos as some kind of biological weapon to erase civilizations is very interesting to me.
Well, Alien Romulus established that the xenomorphs contain black goo in their DNA, and that's their real value to WeyYu
Wait, so if xenomorphs already had natural predators/competition, and they wiped out the red clan on their own, wouldn't that mean that their competitor would have an easy time wiping them out as a whole?
If I remember correctly there was a tomb like structure in Prometheus that already had a Xenomorph depicted on the wall when David arrived on that planet. The mountain also depicted a skull of a Xeno or some way a Xeno that had been grown uncontrollably so I don't think it was ever hinted that David created them. Maybe he revived or reinvented a strain researching the black goo but not really inventing the wheel.
They'd need an endless supply of hosts, and we'd need to know their lifespan.
I think David making the alien is one of the biggest things In the entire franchise. If you watch the movies you realize it's about hating your creator because your creator doesn't see you as equal so we want to destroy that that created us. The same goes for Androids, this is why David made them. To break this cycle.
Planet of the apes, matrix, and alien all have the same premise just at different points In that premise.
Since the first movie Androids always new what was up with the aliens.
I'm just curious, are the Yautja in the novels or comics?
I like to think they did evolve over thousands of years and that planet may or may not be their original homeworld. I think there are two timelines 1.Alien movies with covenant and Alien movies with AVP movies as prequels.
I don’t know how any ecosystem could support Xenos, because they would eventually run out of hosts. Having them be manufactured kind of answers questions like that. I think both concepts are attractive, but I have too many questions about how any kind of world would support an incredibly invasive species, since the reproduction cycle is SO fast
It makes more sense that the xenomorphs are a weapon, not a natural species. They breed rapidly and adapt to exterminate all animal life available, from the largest to the smallest, and when all their prey is converted to facehugger eggs or tiny pods their "soldier" forms appear to quickly die off. I don't think it's ever stated how long the eggs remain viable, but given the age of the Space Jockey's ship in the first film it might be many millenia. Not a terribly viable species when they so rapidly wipe out their prey and then become dormant when no other life remains to create more prey.
If we completely disregard the trainwreck that was Alien Covenant, something that has always fascinated me about the xenomorph is that it is, at least partially, parasitic. We can't help but imagine the xenomorph as an apex predator, due to the ease with which it is able to hunt and kill humans, intelligent predators in our own right, but apex predators, in almost every observed ecosystem here on Earth, rely overwhelmingly on strength, agility, or physicality in other ways. While many species identified as apex predators, namely crocodiles, big cats, and orcas utilize ambush tactics, many more predators that we consider relatively low on the food chain also engage in ambush tactics, like many reptile species, spiders, and prey birds. The half-parasitic, half-ambush tactics of the xenomorph lead me to believe, that in its natural habitat (Assuming that all presumed 'homeworlds' depicted thus far in Alien canon are simply outbreaks rather than their real origin), it would NOT be the apex predator of its planet. The xenomorph seems like it would be more akin to a scavenger species, with eggs that can go dormant until suitable prey enters its surroundings, then establishing a hive when enough resources are acquired. The 'perfect predator' might be the equivalent of a mosquito, tick, or other parasitic disease vector like here on Earth, and their homeworld could be filled with horrors beyond human comprehension. A true 'homeworld' for the xenomorph is equally something I would be DESPERATE to see realized, in a kind of repulsive perversion of the type of living world James Cameron created with Avatar. But also, I pray they never do it, because at this point, I wouldn't trust Fox to write a single word of an Alien script without butchering the franchise even further...
I like the idea of the Xenomorphs being natural creatures in the universe but some were modified by the engineers to see what they could create. And that David only made a variant of them that resembled the ones that the Yautja ended with when they used face huggers on other beings.
Mi piace pensare che gli xeno siano stati creati dagli stessi ingegneri e che fossero destinati all'umanità per estinguerla visto che erano molto delusi della loro creazione. Poi la situazione è sfuggita di mano!! è dal momento che viene trovata la nave degli ingegneri
Su LV426 la storia ricomincia ma gli xeno sono indomabili. Ciao.
David recreated the xenomirphs he reverse engineered them. The original alien film featured a juggernaut that had been destitute for 2000 years and it was filled with xenomorph eggs meaning David couldn’t have been responsible for that off shoot.
I believe that xenomorphs are natural, David just found a way to get the a species that already exist in the universe. Like breeding wolves to get dogs today, but dogs already exist.
I just see them like the Burmese pythons we have in Florida or better yet fire ants. In their home ecosystems they were held in check, but when other species like Space Jockeys took them out they just went crazy because their natural predators were gone.
Just curious as to what comics and/or novels follow the first three alien films as well as Alien: colonial marines and the AVP game from 2010. Kinda want to dive headfirst into this universe
This isn't Alien: Romulus lore. This lore may be canon to the AVP movies, but niether the comics nor the AVP movies are canon, or even congruent with, the Alien movie canon.
As far ad the movies' canon goes there IS no alien homeworld. Before Covenant, classic-traditional Xenomorphs didn't even exist. Even after Covenant, they still didn't exist. Sometime between Covenant and Alien 1 they came to exist. Thats why I'm so bummed we're never going to get an (on screen) end to David's story, which would have surely included the final step in transforming his creations into the xenomorphs we know and love. But he was close. His final creation just needs the addition of some kind of bio-mechanical functionality. I've seen speculation that, in the end, the bio mech features and metal teeth may have come from a face hugger attaching itself to David himself, and then Weyland mass producing the resultant xenomorph. But it seems most fans find that idea lame. And since that was probably Ridley's whole plan- he's just not gonna make that movie.
Now all of this is not to say that sometime between Covenant and Resurrection, the aliens may have eventually CONQUERED a world. Or two. But as their origin spans several planets across hundreds of years of combining with different life forms and being bio engineered and so on- how can you say the aliens (FROM THE MOVIE CANON) have a singular home planet?
I like your idea that they are a natural species!
Nice video mate:)
I can't wait for another full retcon on the origins of the XenomorphS....I hope they explain it all extremely vague for the sake of mystery
I tend to take the Prometheus version simply because it makes more sense, give ntaht the Xenomorph as presented seems so ultra-perfect and hard to kill that htey could not naturally evolve or exist, especially given their seeming lack of a function in any ecosystem