The whole reason Rick wrote the book with Mark is because Rick doesn’t specialize in emotional scenes (not saying he can’t write them). So Rick focused on the humor and the writings of the characters and Mark did more of the emotional stuff.
Mark came to discuss this book with my schools book club and he told us it’s also partially because Rick (an “old straight white man”) didn’t completely feel like it was his place writing a book about two gay teens. On a side note Mark is a really great guy and he told us a lot of interesting stuff about Rick and his writing process.
@@Bubblemaster3000-uh8oe Yeah it was really cool! He came because my school won a raffle thing to get (almost) any lgbt+ author to come talk to us about their book and I convinced my Librarian to chose Mark. He was really nice and signed all of our books!
"if i wanted to read a boys love book , i wouldve bought one" what. bro thats what you did buy?? the litteraly title of the book is basicaly saying , WIll solace and Nico Di angelo. And ya know they are gay foreachtoehr , so if the title litterally has to do with them , thne im pretty sure the hwole book is practically gonna be about THEM. aka TWO BOYS IN LOVE
As a BiSexual Percy Jackson fan I will say it is a weird jump from the main series to the spin offs being more LGBTQ represented. I was like wait what Nico is GAY?! As it came out of nowhere and felt weird. Used to it now but felt forced at the moment.
@@lucasromerova6150I think Rick knew that he was gay around the first series, it's just the fact that it was written in 2005+. While the House of Hades was written around the time Gay marriage was legalized in the US.
the thing that confuses me is that there are so many hetero couples in the first few series (percy and annabeth, jason and piper, frank and hazel, silena and beckendorf, leo and calypso, the list goes on and on) and they have absolutely zero problem with it, yet as soon as ONE gay couple gets a book, it's too inappropriate and forcing an agenda. Two boys kissing is apparently the most disgusting thing in the world to some people and that's just sad.
Yeah... I'm mean, you don't like it you can pass, but I'm tired of "agenda". That not because an author want to put other couples than hetero that mean it's for agenda or anything. More, author have nobody that force them to write.
I would say it is more of the fact that u are writing a book abt something that is not natural. Just cuz someone has an urge to do something doesn't mean they should do like people that having a gay relationship is ok. Cuz it's not. It's a sinful desire and is in the same category of lust
@@LoneStarGirl15 alright honey go to a science class i beg of you. there is literally no difference between heterosexual love and homosexual love, just because the bible POSSIBLY (remember that it was written thousands of years ago and interpretations and translations might not be accurate!) said being gay will send you to hell doesn't mean gay love doesn't exist, people shouldn't have to repress their love for someone just because one verse in the bible that they might not even believe in said they can't. We can't control our "sinful desires" just like you can't control your hallway crushes. one verse in the bible isn't worth giving people literal trauma. grow up.
@enbyoftheaphroditecabin u beg of me😂? Well do murders not exist? Don't they want to unalive people? Ok so like just base question do u believe there is a God?
@@LoneStarGirl15 being gay is NOT the same as wanting to k!ll people, that’s a funny little thing we call false equivalency! Of COURSE murderers exist. But if you would just do a tiny bit of research, you would find like homosexuality IS natural. Wanting to k!ll someone is not. No, I don’t believe there is a God, but I respect people who do. However, let me tell you something. If you’re trying to convince a comment section full of gays that they’re sinners, it won’t work, because they’ve heard this exact thing a billion times. What do you think this videos about? People saying that same thing OVER AND OVER again, but we’ve just learned to not listen, because we have our own beliefs and you have yours. It’s that simple.
Even if they missed Trials of Apollo (didn’t know it existed) I don’t see how they could have missed Nico and Will in Heroes of Olympus. It’s obvious even then they’ll end up together.
When HoO was still coming out, I used to preorder the books, read them in a day, and give the copy to my best friend for him and his brother to read. When he finished BoO, I was like “and Nico moving on with will was really satisfying for his character arc” and he was like wait nico and will were into each other? So it is possible for someone to just completely miss it lmao
I was giggling when I read the last Nico chapter of BoO, Solangelo was sooooo obvious to me, I read the chapter to everyone one of my family and friends (including Gran, cousin, multiple friends), everyone saw the Solangelo immediately ❤😊
"also I am very impressed that a 9 year-old will be reading this book bc it's like 400 pages long" my past 9 year-old self DEVOURING ~600-700 Harry Potter books in the span of maximum 4 days: "What, like it's hard?" Edit: Comment: "y'all hate this book because it's too gay and I hate this book because it's poorly written and also homophobic" Me reading that comment: "My math is not math-ing..." Also great video! I appreciate the suffering you put yourself through for our entertainment ( :
6:56- One of the themes for the very book you're reviewing is about letting yourself grow and change as a person, so of course Nico is going to change as a character.
I personally think that getting specifically a queer coauthor for this book was a right move, because it touches on a lot more unique queer experiences that a straight man like Rick might not necessarily be the most qualified to comment on, like coming out and gay awakenings, and it has a lot more specific labels than most other books in that universe. Only really the second two Magnus Chase books and Tower of Nero have any specific labels at all.
You personally think that “getting specifically a queer coauthor for this book” what? I’m not trying to be rude I’m just struggling to understand what you meant 😭
"This is as bad as the musical Hadestown" an award winning musical that is fantastic. Instantly told me that this reviewer and I have completely different ideas of bad
I thought this book was actually really good. Like, what did people think was going to happen? They are literally in TARTARUS! Ofc the characters aren’t going to act how they normally would. I thought the pet names were cute 😭
9:02 The whole book is about change so of course Nico as a character is going to change, of course the Solangelo relationship is going to change and it's not even true that the we don't see struggles with Annabeth and Percy. In their pov's in Mark of Athena they both feel slightly off in there relationship, especially Percy. He feels like he's being useless to Annabeth and her quest but never says anything.
I explained the entire plot to my mum and dad before borrowing it from my public library and they were like, “okay that’s cool.” I think they know I’m homo 😂 but the point is they didn’t care
I’m a ten year old and bought this book for my self right after reading the trials of Apollo and read it in two days. I cried on chapter eight and kept crying throughout. Ioved it so much
Great but just a little tip. Please do not say your age online especially if you aren’t old enough to be on this app. I know it sucks but you probably shouldn’t have unfiltered access to the internet until at least 13 when you are actually allowed. and exposing your age can be dangerous because there are disgusting people on the internet.
@@-v3ga This and be wary of adult conversations. Your opinion on the book matters, but you have to be careful on the internet. It's best to write about your thoughts to yourself in a journal or in a google doc or even share your thoughts with the friends your age until you're 13+ like the site has intended so you can be prepared to have these conversations online.
@@lifeisadrag7705 Very true. online safety is very important. I can think of countless times just this year of internet creeps and p3dos being caught like drake, Dr Disrespect, Ava Tyson, Cody Ko (i think i haven’t heard much in the story)
i was mad when the person said “if rick can’t write a book on his own, he shouldn’t write it” because i think it would have been worse if he wrote it on his own. Mark Oshiro is a queer author of color that uses they/them(?) pronouns, and i kinda thought that rick didn’t think it would be right for him to write a queer romance when he’s a straight white man. also not the jegulus fan fiction lmao. babes it’s 2024 why are we still homophobic?
@@adarshraj2978 DEI nonsense. to answer your question. And @RosemaryDolan "It's 2024" people should not be this stupid and still think that the LGBTQ people are sane.
@@adarshraj2978If you look at the very end of the Sun and The Star copy, it’ll have info about the authors, showing pronouns, a picture of them, their inheritance, etc.
I really hate it when people say that being LGBTQ+ is 'unnatural' or stuff like 'kids shouldn't be exposed to this stuff yet' and junk like that. I'm growing up in a family with two moms, and hearing people say these things just angers me. The thing is, some people are still not ready to accept the fact that people like my family exist. I just wish that people could just accept that you're different from them instead of making a big deal out of it. Like really, it's not your place to judge or question other people's differences.
Ok hear me out...did both your mom's create you or did it take a man somewhere to donate a sperm to make you. That makes it...not natural ...cuz it took a procedure to let your moms have kids. Meaning maybe it was not supposed to be this way. And that the only natural relationship is one man and one women in one relationship for one lifetime. Just a thought something to chew on.
Nico and Will are by far my favourite couple in the whole series so imagine my excitement when I found out there was a whole book just focusing on their relationship. Don’t get me wrong I loved the book but I don’t know if it was because it was co-written or not but there was just something off about it. The whole time it just felt like I was reading a really good fanfic.
The sun and star is a good book if you don't want a book like that then why did you buy it? If you read the back you would not have bought it and complain
TSATS wasn't my favorite book but I still appreciate it and if someone doesn't like it just because gasp there are gay characters they are being ridiculous😂
one time i was in a bookstore and i saw that the sun and the star was wrapped in plastic with a warning that said ‘unsuitable for children’….next to some of the dirtiest booktok ass smut i’ve ever seen in my life
I’m going to take a wild guess and say that the smutty Booktok books did not have the same warning label on them? Or that they were all under one “unsuitable for children” shelf?
I would say that people get mad thats a kid book. Keep sexuality out of books for kids that for the parent to talk to their kid. And for me if that was my kid I would say something AMAZING i heard the other day from a conservative speaker. There are two sexes. Gender is not a thing, it is now basically another word for personality.
I didn't even read the books I just somehow got sucked into the persassy edits but once I discovered that Nico and Will are gay for eachother I looked up some fanart and they actually looked so wholesome together idk how could someone hate them
in TSATS it says "what was one straight boy when you spent your whole life longing for the impossible?" in nicos pov٫ and he was referring to percy. i think percy is definitely bi but if its in the book its probably canon😔
The fact that im 5 minutes into this, and a 12 year old felt uncomfortable with literaly makes me wanna die. Im literaly 12 and this book helped me come out as lesbian. HOW ARE YOU SO IMMATURE TO NOT EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE OR RESPECT IT, LIKE HAVE SOME BASIC HUMAN DECENCY!(Sorry for kinda lashing out)
I would say you would have to define human decency. Also someone elses opinion should not make you wanna die. If you want to talk about being immature I would say learn to realize people have different opinions and not get upset about it.
as soon as I heard the review about not accepting genderfluid people i screamed. not to mention, my first actual crush was one of the same gender. these reviews are not helping me at all since the first time i attempted to come out, i got shoved back in.
My only problem with this book was that I thought the moments of Riordan's traditional zany humour didn't jive well with the mostly super dark and serious story they wanted to tell.
10:52 : "I am very impressed with the fact that a 9 year old will be reading this book cause it's like 400 pages long" Meanwhile, 9 year old me reading the entirety of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in 1 day. Don't underestimate kids.
10:21 RELATABLE THO-😭😭😭 I hate it when people say books “are for babies” when there’s an arbitrary age cut-off. like- adults and older teens can enjoy children’s and YA fiction too.😭
SO TRUEEE!! like I read Percy Jackson and all Rick's other books and people are like "Oh, yoU'rE reAdiNg PeRcy JaCksOn?" and I'm like "yeah, why not?" Like let us read whatever we want!! cuz ive been told so many times while reading Percy Jackson books "isn't that book for third graders?"
It feels like a lot of these people just don't know how gay the original greek myths these stories riff off already were. "In a world where a couple is a couple why do you have to make such a big deal about this couple being a couple" - for precisely the reason that so many of these reviews see any gay couple existing in literature as "political" in this world we are still at the point where making stories about a gay couple is unusual and still needs celebrating and making a point of. If (when) we get to a point where homophobia is a rare thing in the world then we can really say straight or gay makes no difference
I literally just love this book so much, there was so much character development, but people just love to complain bc they have nothing else to do in their lives🙄🙄 Also I’ve probably already read it like 20 times by now because 🖤sOLaNgeLo cuTenEsS💛✨
I don't understand why these people even bought the book. Do people just order books blindly?? Like how can you not know it's gonna be about Nico and Will? GAY Nico and GAY Will??
They were having fun with the nicknames for each other 😭 it’s a bit they have, you know people in relationships like to be cringy sometimes? Cause it’s fun and they’re not afraid to weird the other out.
@@nyxdragon5460 literally!! And first relationships! (For Nico, at least, I couldn’t remember if Will’s been with anyone, even if he had, it wouldn’t have been very serious)
Honestly I kinda agree with some of the reviews. It DID kinda feel like a fanfic. It was way too lovey for me. The plot was almost a background thing. Then again that’s just my opinion as someone who looks at published books for plot and fanfics for romance. To me I felt overwhelmed and the romance didn’t feel special anymore cuz there was too much of it. Definitely wasn’t pushing a gay agenda tho, what 😂 Edit: I also did notice the co writing. I read the description and it wasn’t what I was expecting even then. This all being said, I’m also autistic and really don’t like change, so the fact that it changed from what I was expecting could have tilted my view.
14:18 Well I remember Nico saying “And having a crush on a straight boy embarrassing” something like that when he was talking about him liking Percy I think
Hey Unclaimed, you should try out Elise Kova's air awakens universe I think that you will enjoy it as it is also a massive connected universe spanning several book series and although it has elements of romance it is also mainly fantasy series and has some LGBT representation
These are the best videos 🏳️🌈 Edit: I’m half way through 9:57 and I can’t with these Amazon reviews anymore 💀 Edit: 14:32 Percy had this guy named Jason, he didn’t look too straight
I'm 12 and when I read the book it was completely fine not inappropriate, I loved it. And I hate how people (my friends parents) don't approve of LGBTQ+, THEY ARE STILL PEOPLE. over all I loved the sun and the star book and a recamned it to everone.
pls don’t expose your age in the internet if you are a minor tho. i am older than you and still wouldn’t say my age. tho i do think that this page is less dangerous than others i would still be careful
Yaaaay Friday post!! I find these so funny, like it is no mystery this is and LGBTQ+ book, if you don’t feel “comfortable” why do you read it 😂 ( also I’m a huge wolfstar and jilly shipper too :D)
I can see why some people might not like this book, in the sense that it's not what they read Percy Jackson for, but I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was, maybe in part because I like emotional stories. It also got me invested in Nico and Will's relationship in a way that their appearances in Trials of Apollo didn't. I felt like Trials of Apollo showed them bickering more than it showed them actually being a loving couple, and it didn't really feel like they were in love, so I liked that this book added some depth to their relationship and actually showed them being a loving couple.
It's kind of wild to me how having a lot of queer rep in a book is seen as 'pushing' representation, but as far as I can tell, unless explicitly stated otherwise, most people assume that every character in every book is cis/hetero 😅
Percy Jackson books are generally for 4th graders and yes I did read this when I was 9, when you genuinely like a book it feels so short and you binge read it in one night
IF I WAS HOMOPHOBIC (I AM NOT SO DONT COME FOR ME) I would use this book as a teaching moment for my kids and tell them that if they choose gayness then they will get thrown into hell and won’t live through it because they aren’t demigods 😭😭
listen, I don't like TSaTS, but honestly some of these comments were ridiculous. though I will not deny that I agree with some of them. SPOILERS I think my main problem with the entire book was how Nico did not feel like Nico, and how Will (I apologize to all the Will Solace stans out there) felt like a jerk. I know that Nico is in a relationship, he's learning and changing, but I can't really see how he would go from grumpy, snappy, defensive and with a touch aversion to sappy, 'my boyfriend is the sun and he is awesome and beautiful and-' in from what I recall, a year or less. and Will? don't even get me started on Will. I really liked his character in ToA. he was interesting, loved his dynamic with Nico, and generally a great character. What this book gave me was a guy who kept complaining about the Underworld his entire trip, told his boyfriend Persephone (his stepmother!) was beautiful in front of his face then promptly asked said stepmother how you love someone from the underworld, was sickly throughout the entire trip until he worked together with Nico at the very end to defeat a primordial that even Zeus fears with the power of friendship and love. then there was me thinking: alright, so what happened to Jason? What happened to the 'where's Jason's soul' problem? how is the entire camp empty other than our main characters and activities director? so campers can just leave anytime they want to now? why would hades send his son to Tartarus, he loves his son, why send him on a trauma trip to 'the place where even gods don't venture'? Tartarus feels completely watered down, why? how did Percy and annabeth just... forget, about bob??? nico just thinks of Percy and annabeth as 'percabeth' now, I guess....? and how the absolute frick does nico get to see Bianca and Maria's ghosts when one of them is unreachable and the other reincarnated? then the ultimate thing that pushed me over the edge: you know how disturbing it is for a millennia lady says to a fourteen year old, "these are our children." and the child just going, alright, I hate you, I'm killing you (what a divorce!), and I'm taking the kids then promptly naming them the Cocoa Puffs... hey, that sounds like a band name?" it was just plain weird, and honestly, I can get some parent for thinking this part wasn't suitable to children. nyx felt like a stalker and a creep throughout the whole book really, zeus level. and rick didn't even go that far in writing zeus the way nyx was written. basically, this book had me jumping ship to Jasico and binging an entire 800K fanfic over the span of three days about that very ship on ao3. right, now that I got my rant out of the way (SORRY ABOUT THAT I REALLY AM TO TSATS LOVERS), I will admit there are some good parts of the book, but honestly a lot that made me question my knowledge of Nico's character and whether or not I actually understood or remembered anything from the books I read about phycology and whether or not relationships are toxic. if you liked this book, I'm happy for you, but I hope some of you can understand that there are people who found this book uncharacteristic and similar to some alright-fanfictions. we don't want to be haters, and we aren't trying to be haters. we just want to point out what this book could've improved, and expressed some thought that we hope rick would find helpful. fan feedback for the book released specifically for Solangelo fans, after all.
I think the people in the reviews compared it to jegulus bc they're generally also using a lot of light/dark opposites attract tropes/themes in those fics. In that case Nico would be Regulus and James would be Will.
@@Unclaimeddemigod also I forgot to mention ppl often compare James to the sun bc he has an extroverted sunny personality and Regulus is named after a star so we often see fanart or fics with them literally being the sun and the star. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Solangelo and Jegulus are the same but they’d appeal to the same audience
This is literally a tribute lol and off topic 😭👍 As someone who literally loves these books and these books inspired me to make my own series (i may or may not never) publish...these made me laugh. Because its mainly *because* of the represenation of these characters i'm even semi-able to write queer characters but i cant ever fully confirm because of where i live. Literally, the main mc of my book is kinda like nico, the person hes paired up with is similar to will, the other two main mcs are literally kinda like piper and shel, these damn books have influenced a lot of my story writing. Its even the fact will and nico are a thing that i ended making my ocs for my book who literally hace the same care and yes, those two are guys! Hell, if it wasn't for the writing in rick riodarn's stories, i wouldve never noticed how gay i made them 😭
I LOVED that book so much and my friend has read it 17 times. These reviews are making me angry. Homophobic people don't get it. Also this book was so great so I don't get the "Its so poorly written" like what?
It’s my second favorite book in the whole world and I was super excited about it, I screamed, laughed , almost cried and just absolutely adored it. I do understand that it can feel a little too forced with the explicit queerness for example the chat between Piper and Nico, but I really really loved it and in my opinion is almost perfect
Okay I've never read anything in the Percy Jackson universe but like, surely you're not just buying the book without reading the summary right? I'd have to imagine the summary says that they're in a relationship if it's a main part of the story
8:14 Imma trauma dump on a fanfic I found once. So, it was on Wattpad bc I didn’t feel like going on Ao3, and what I was looking for was js some random story, maybe not even pjo related, about the gods as mortals. I clicked one that looked decent and started reading it. The Olympians were made mortal teenagers and sent to Goode High school, where apparently every Demigod ever goes to school (Thalia, Nico, Annabeth, Percy, Travis, Katie were the ones there I think). Zeus tries to build this (fatherly) relationship with Thalia, and it fails MISERABLY, not to mention she’s a hunter of Artemis and is for some reason still in school? Also, Thalia has these romantic feelings for Nico. Huh?? Demeter and Hermes are out here desperately trying to keep Travis and Katie from dating. And…Nico…took Artemis….on a date…which was sabotaged…by Apollo and Aphrodite…like…what….And Artemis somehow ended up in this dumpster (thanks Apollo and Aphrodite?) and then she hated Nico, and then we find our Thalia is self harming and I’m JUST SO LOST and when I got to Thalia doing sh I just gave up because that author did Thalia dirty in that fic. Also did Nico and Artemis dirty, their characters did it deserve such treatment
14:33 in the Sun in the star Nico mentions how he fell in love with a straight boy in regards to Percy but that doesn't mean that Percy actually is straight that just means Nico thinks he's straight he could be bi and just Nico does not know that but Nico does call Percy a straight boy in this book
Uhhhh people are so annoying the sun and the star was a good book it had its pro and cons but still enjoyable. I disagree with those one star reviews. But u know what I realized my first video I had ever watched from u was a couple years ago when u released the reading homophobic reviews of TTOA series lol.
Rick intentionally doesn't write in a timeline, his books pretty much are always set in the time he's writing them. Another obvious example is Chalice of the Gods, there's so much stuff in there that wouldn't have existed back in the timeline. As far as I remember, he wants to appeal to the current middle school generation more than to force an early 2000s and 2010s story. I just really can't remember which interview or video that was.
Okay, the fact that one of them slandered Hadestown 16:02 is bad. Hadestown is a musical about Orpheus and Eurydice and it’s actually pretty good. I can’t say I love all the songs but I have my favorites and know people that are huge fans of the musical.
If you like Percy Jackson you should check out Lockwood and Co by Jonathan Stroud. It even got turned into a tv show. It's about these kids who fight ghost in London.
@Unclaimeddemigod I highly recommend it! It's got Percy Jackson's vibes, and Rick Riordan himself has left a review and love it! You should totally check it out.
i feel like a lot of people just don’t read the synopsis of the books they read bc it literally says in the synopsis of this book that their “relationship is tested to the core” what did people expect???
I've seen a GoodReads response from him in which he says that he doesn't see Percy as queer in any shape or form, but fans are welcome to headcannon him as such if they think it makes sense.
I liked the book. But, the nonlinear timeline mixed with the dream parts was very confusing. I couldn’t tell you what happened or was a dream. I would say 3 stars. Also, Rick seems to be losing the art of subtlety. It has been an issue since Heroes of Olympus and is just getting worse. Mainly this issue was with Piper and left her character inverted within the fandom. It feels like Rick doesn’t trust his fandom to figure things out. If all a character thinks about is that they don’t think of something, then it’s all they think about. If the trend continues, we are going to have another DC Icons on our hands and nobody needs more DC Icons
My family is all Christian but the same time they don’t really care that it’s like has gay in it, but to be completely fair half of my family has only read the original five books where there’s not a lot shown and then I and my mom and dad are currently trying to read the rest of it
did those people just compare rick's book to the fucking fanfics? i dont care what those are but are they in their right effing mind? the reason rick chose mark to cowrote was because rick felt he couldn't justify the queer representation enough because he is not queer, hence deciding on mark as he is queer and a fantastic writer in his own way to establish more authenticity with the characters. I personally found it very endearing and responsible and respectful of him towards the characters. They say they are solangelo fans but they can't respect the books more cause it has an additional author ...............than the fanfics? it's not the authors' problem if you're talking with your last two braincells and destroyed the rest while reading fanfics, like bro, PICK a struggle.
My Nana literally didn't care that it was gay, she just really enjoyed the fact that I was wanting to read a book, lol
Omg my parents didn't care either although now I have an obsession
@@Da_one_and_only_da_fishyMy Nana has written books WITH Gay characters in them 😭
@@NovaNoah._.Studios oh she's an author that's cool I'd like to be an author also I have an unhealthy obsession with percy jackson
My Gran loves the gay acceptance and I read it more than three times (I love reading) and even read some of the fluff to her❤❤❤
W nana
The whole reason Rick wrote the book with Mark is because Rick doesn’t specialize in emotional scenes (not saying he can’t write them). So Rick focused on the humor and the writings of the characters and Mark did more of the emotional stuff.
I mean, he CAN write emotional stuff, but it usually includes killings someone :v
Thank you, Mark, for making this book my favorite
Mark came to discuss this book with my schools book club and he told us it’s also partially because Rick (an “old straight white man”) didn’t completely feel like it was his place writing a book about two gay teens. On a side note Mark is a really great guy and he told us a lot of interesting stuff about Rick and his writing process.
@@Amber-d6o YOU GOT TO MEET HIM?!?!?!?!?! LUCKY😭😭😭
@@Bubblemaster3000-uh8oe Yeah it was really cool! He came because my school won a raffle thing to get (almost) any lgbt+ author to come talk to us about their book and I convinced my Librarian to chose Mark. He was really nice and signed all of our books!
"if i wanted to read a boys love book , i wouldve bought one" what. bro thats what you did buy?? the litteraly title of the book is basicaly saying , WIll solace and Nico Di angelo. And ya know they are gay foreachtoehr , so if the title litterally has to do with them , thne im pretty sure the hwole book is practically gonna be about THEM. aka TWO BOYS IN LOVE
As a BiSexual Percy Jackson fan I will say it is a weird jump from the main series to the spin offs being more LGBTQ represented. I was like wait what Nico is GAY?! As it came out of nowhere and felt weird. Used to it now but felt forced at the moment.
Yeah I mean all they had to do was look at the cover and read the blurb on the back!
@@lucasromerova6150I think Rick knew that he was gay around the first series, it's just the fact that it was written in 2005+. While the House of Hades was written around the time Gay marriage was legalized in the US.
@@NovaNoah._.Studios Rick has indeed confirmed that he knew what Nico's sexuality was in the last couple of books in PJO.
@@TheBlindRat oh my gosh YOPPIE😍😍
they dont read the resume before buying a book ??😭
"its not appropriate for kids" kids dies and see horrible stuffs every book but its ok👍
They should read the sample before buying the book
No I'm 10 and read it without any uncomfortable to what do they mean 🤔
I mean so
@@F8ibtetffuu I know right
I literally started reading spice at 11
@@Someone-d2y weird
the thing that confuses me is that there are so many hetero couples in the first few series (percy and annabeth, jason and piper, frank and hazel, silena and beckendorf, leo and calypso, the list goes on and on) and they have absolutely zero problem with it, yet as soon as ONE gay couple gets a book, it's too inappropriate and forcing an agenda. Two boys kissing is apparently the most disgusting thing in the world to some people and that's just sad.
Yeah... I'm mean, you don't like it you can pass, but I'm tired of "agenda". That not because an author want to put other couples than hetero that mean it's for agenda or anything. More, author have nobody that force them to write.
I would say it is more of the fact that u are writing a book abt something that is not natural. Just cuz someone has an urge to do something doesn't mean they should do like people that having a gay relationship is ok. Cuz it's not. It's a sinful desire and is in the same category of lust
@@LoneStarGirl15 alright honey go to a science class i beg of you. there is literally no difference between heterosexual love and homosexual love, just because the bible POSSIBLY (remember that it was written thousands of years ago and interpretations and translations might not be accurate!) said being gay will send you to hell doesn't mean gay love doesn't exist, people shouldn't have to repress their love for someone just because one verse in the bible that they might not even believe in said they can't. We can't control our "sinful desires" just like you can't control your hallway crushes.
one verse in the bible isn't worth giving people literal trauma. grow up.
@enbyoftheaphroditecabin u beg of me😂? Well do murders not exist? Don't they want to unalive people? Ok so like just base question do u believe there is a God?
@@LoneStarGirl15 being gay is NOT the same as wanting to k!ll people, that’s a funny little thing we call false equivalency! Of COURSE murderers exist. But if you would just do a tiny bit of research, you would find like homosexuality IS natural. Wanting to k!ll someone is not.
No, I don’t believe there is a God, but I respect people who do. However, let me tell you something. If you’re trying to convince a comment section full of gays that they’re sinners, it won’t work, because they’ve heard this exact thing a billion times. What do you think this videos about? People saying that same thing OVER AND OVER again, but we’ve just learned to not listen, because we have our own beliefs and you have yours. It’s that simple.
Even if they missed Trials of Apollo (didn’t know it existed) I don’t see how they could have missed Nico and Will in Heroes of Olympus. It’s obvious even then they’ll end up together.
When HoO was still coming out, I used to preorder the books, read them in a day, and give the copy to my best friend for him and his brother to read. When he finished BoO, I was like “and Nico moving on with will was really satisfying for his character arc” and he was like wait nico and will were into each other? So it is possible for someone to just completely miss it lmao
I was giggling when I read the last Nico chapter of BoO, Solangelo was sooooo obvious to me, I read the chapter to everyone one of my family and friends (including Gran, cousin, multiple friends), everyone saw the Solangelo immediately ❤😊
"also I am very impressed that a 9 year-old will be reading this book bc it's like 400 pages long"
my past 9 year-old self DEVOURING ~600-700 Harry Potter books in the span of maximum 4 days: "What, like it's hard?"
Edit:
Comment: "y'all hate this book because it's too gay and I hate this book because it's poorly written and also homophobic"
Me reading that comment: "My math is not math-ing..."
Also great video! I appreciate the suffering you put yourself through for our entertainment ( :
Sameee I started reading Harry Potter in first grade and everyone thought I was crazy lol
Same I read sorcerers stone in kindergarten, then gave up, then finished it in 4th grade.
Same
I'm right it's not that hard to read the HP series in 3 to 4 days! I did it myself too
yeah exactly! I did read full Harry Potter,KOTLC up to flashback and The Inheritance cycle (which the main series is only 4 books but who cares lol)
6:56- One of the themes for the very book you're reviewing is about letting yourself grow and change as a person, so of course Nico is going to change as a character.
I personally think that getting specifically a queer coauthor for this book was a right move, because it touches on a lot more unique queer experiences that a straight man like Rick might not necessarily be the most qualified to comment on, like coming out and gay awakenings, and it has a lot more specific labels than most other books in that universe. Only really the second two Magnus Chase books and Tower of Nero have any specific labels at all.
You personally think that “getting specifically a queer coauthor for this book” what? I’m not trying to be rude I’m just struggling to understand what you meant 😭
@@raineatscheese
Oh I meant it was good
"This is as bad as the musical Hadestown" an award winning musical that is fantastic. Instantly told me that this reviewer and I have completely different ideas of bad
as _bad_ as the musical *hadestown?* i think the reviewer is on something tbh. that musical is a masterpiece
I thought this book was actually really good. Like, what did people think was going to happen? They are literally in TARTARUS! Ofc the characters aren’t going to act how they normally would. I thought the pet names were cute 😭
They were cute! And also absolutely matching the fact that they're 15.
Bro I loved this book before all those comments and now I am questioning everything 😭😭😭
@@AidenTheBeardie Ikr 😭
9:02 The whole book is about change so of course Nico as a character is going to change, of course the Solangelo relationship is going to change and it's not even true that the we don't see struggles with Annabeth and Percy. In their pov's in Mark of Athena they both feel slightly off in there relationship, especially Percy. He feels like he's being useless to Annabeth and her quest but never says anything.
I explained the entire plot to my mum and dad before borrowing it from my public library and they were like, “okay that’s cool.” I think they know I’m homo 😂 but the point is they didn’t care
I’m a ten year old and bought this book for my self right after reading the trials of Apollo and read it in two days. I cried on chapter eight and kept crying throughout. Ioved it so much
Great but just a little tip. Please do not say your age online especially if you aren’t old enough to be on this app. I know it sucks but you probably shouldn’t have unfiltered access to the internet until at least 13 when you are actually allowed. and exposing your age can be dangerous because there are disgusting people on the internet.
@@-v3ga This and be wary of adult conversations. Your opinion on the book matters, but you have to be careful on the internet. It's best to write about your thoughts to yourself in a journal or in a google doc or even share your thoughts with the friends your age until you're 13+ like the site has intended so you can be prepared to have these conversations online.
@@lifeisadrag7705 Very true. online safety is very important. I can think of countless times just this year of internet creeps and p3dos being caught like drake, Dr Disrespect, Ava Tyson, Cody Ko (i think i haven’t heard much in the story)
i was mad when the person said “if rick can’t write a book on his own, he shouldn’t write it” because i think it would have been worse if he wrote it on his own. Mark Oshiro is a queer author of color that uses they/them(?) pronouns, and i kinda thought that rick didn’t think it would be right for him to write a queer romance when he’s a straight white man. also not the jegulus fan fiction lmao. babes it’s 2024 why are we still homophobic?
"babes it’s 2024" that's what I'm saying!
Where did the color and pronouns come from?
@@adarshraj2978 DEI nonsense. to answer your question. And @RosemaryDolan "It's 2024" people should not be this stupid and still think that the LGBTQ people are sane.
@@adarshraj2978If you look at the very end of the Sun and The Star copy, it’ll have info about the authors, showing pronouns, a picture of them, their inheritance, etc.
I really hate it when people say that being LGBTQ+ is 'unnatural' or stuff like 'kids shouldn't be exposed to this stuff yet' and junk like that. I'm growing up in a family with two moms, and hearing people say these things just angers me. The thing is, some people are still not ready to accept the fact that people like my family exist. I just wish that people could just accept that you're different from them instead of making a big deal out of it. Like really, it's not your place to judge or question other people's differences.
Ok hear me out...did both your mom's create you or did it take a man somewhere to donate a sperm to make you. That makes it...not natural ...cuz it took a procedure to let your moms have kids. Meaning maybe it was not supposed to be this way. And that the only natural relationship is one man and one women in one relationship for one lifetime. Just a thought something to chew on.
Nico and Will are by far my favourite couple in the whole series so imagine my excitement when I found out there was a whole book just focusing on their relationship. Don’t get me wrong I loved the book but I don’t know if it was because it was co-written or not but there was just something off about it. The whole time it just felt like I was reading a really good fanfic.
honestly, I don't understand how some people can hate such a masterpiece!! love your videos, keep up the great work!!!!!!! :D
I enjoy each new Greek book, but I do agree that the Kanes and Magnus should have gotten more than just a trilogy and a couple companion books each.
The sun and star is a good book if you don't want a book like that then why did you buy it? If you read the back you would not have bought it and complain
Their kids wanted them to read LGBT stuff
TSATS wasn't my favorite book but I still appreciate it and if someone doesn't like it just because gasp there are gay characters they are being ridiculous😂
one time i was in a bookstore and i saw that the sun and the star was wrapped in plastic with a warning that said ‘unsuitable for children’….next to some of the dirtiest booktok ass smut i’ve ever seen in my life
I’m going to take a wild guess and say that the smutty Booktok books did not have the same warning label on them? Or that they were all under one “unsuitable for children” shelf?
I would say that people get mad thats a kid book. Keep sexuality out of books for kids that for the parent to talk to their kid. And for me if that was my kid I would say something AMAZING i heard the other day from a conservative speaker. There are two sexes. Gender is not a thing, it is now basically another word for personality.
‘Not in this house’ 5:14
Certainly not in the big house either
Also if you buy a romance book THERE WILL BE FUCKING ROMANCE.
I didn't even read the books I just somehow got sucked into the persassy edits but once I discovered that Nico and Will are gay for eachother I looked up some fanart and they actually looked so wholesome together idk how could someone hate them
in TSATS it says "what was one straight boy when you spent your whole life longing for the impossible?" in nicos pov٫ and he was referring to percy. i think percy is definitely bi but if its in the book its probably canon😔
I mean, that could just be what Nico thinks
It is canon
PERCY ISNT BI!!!!! HE HAS NEVER SHOWN ROMANTIC INTEREST FOR A MALE *EVER* SO UNTIL HE DOES HE IS STRAIGHT
The fact that im 5 minutes into this, and a 12 year old felt uncomfortable with literaly makes me wanna die. Im literaly 12 and this book helped me come out as lesbian. HOW ARE YOU SO IMMATURE TO NOT EVEN FEEL COMFORTABLE OR RESPECT IT, LIKE HAVE SOME BASIC HUMAN DECENCY!(Sorry for kinda lashing out)
IKRRRR
I would say you would have to define human decency. Also someone elses opinion should not make you wanna die. If you want to talk about being immature I would say learn to realize people have different opinions and not get upset about it.
as soon as I heard the review about not accepting genderfluid people i screamed. not to mention, my first actual crush was one of the same gender. these reviews are not helping me at all since the first time i attempted to come out, i got shoved back in.
My only problem with this book was that I thought the moments of Riordan's traditional zany humour didn't jive well with the mostly super dark and serious story they wanted to tell.
10:52 : "I am very impressed with the fact that a 9 year old will be reading this book cause it's like 400 pages long"
Meanwhile, 9 year old me reading the entirety of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix in 1 day. Don't underestimate kids.
I’ve been a kid! And I wasn’t reading 400 page books at 9 years old I was barely reading Geronimo Stilton 😂
10:21 RELATABLE THO-😭😭😭
I hate it when people say books “are for babies” when there’s an arbitrary age cut-off.
like- adults and older teens can enjoy children’s and YA fiction too.😭
AGREED
SO TRUEEE!! like I read Percy Jackson and all Rick's other books and people are like "Oh, yoU'rE reAdiNg PeRcy JaCksOn?" and I'm like "yeah, why not?" Like let us read whatever we want!! cuz ive been told so many times while reading Percy Jackson books "isn't that book for third graders?"
@@RandomApolloKid I feel that so much-😭
It feels like a lot of these people just don't know how gay the original greek myths these stories riff off already were.
"In a world where a couple is a couple why do you have to make such a big deal about this couple being a couple" - for precisely the reason that so many of these reviews see any gay couple existing in literature as "political" in this world we are still at the point where making stories about a gay couple is unusual and still needs celebrating and making a point of. If (when) we get to a point where homophobia is a rare thing in the world then we can really say straight or gay makes no difference
I literally just love this book so much, there was so much character development, but people just love to complain bc they have nothing else to do in their lives🙄🙄
Also I’ve probably already read it like 20 times by now because 🖤sOLaNgeLo cuTenEsS💛✨
Not the reviewssss I cantttt I read most of these already….. 💀
I don't understand why these people even bought the book. Do people just order books blindly?? Like how can you not know it's gonna be about Nico and Will? GAY Nico and GAY Will??
My only problem with TSATS is that Rick and Mark made my mom the Villian.☹️
1:51 page 29 is chapter 4… they stopped in the middle of Nico’s dream and didn’t even get to the prophecy yet…
That is the most chaotic title ever
They were having fun with the nicknames for each other 😭 it’s a bit they have, you know people in relationships like to be cringy sometimes? Cause it’s fun and they’re not afraid to weird the other out.
also they’re 15 years old they’re allowed to be cringe !!!
@@nyxdragon5460 literally!! And first relationships! (For Nico, at least, I couldn’t remember if Will’s been with anyone, even if he had, it wouldn’t have been very serious)
At 12 i wouldn't have minded some characters are gay i would have been like "ooooh its cute " (like every couple in the universe of percy jackson )
Honestly I kinda agree with some of the reviews. It DID kinda feel like a fanfic. It was way too lovey for me. The plot was almost a background thing.
Then again that’s just my opinion as someone who looks at published books for plot and fanfics for romance.
To me I felt overwhelmed and the romance didn’t feel special anymore cuz there was too much of it.
Definitely wasn’t pushing a gay agenda tho, what 😂
Edit: I also did notice the co writing. I read the description and it wasn’t what I was expecting even then.
This all being said, I’m also autistic and really don’t like change, so the fact that it changed from what I was expecting could have tilted my view.
me laughing because my school is caltholic and they have theses books like do they know? I love solangelo
"as bad as the musical hadestown" made me actually want to scream. im a hadestown lover till the day i die istg
10:45 YOU ARE SPEAKING FACTS!!
Yeah!
in the titans curse he is a ball of happiness
14:18 Well I remember Nico saying “And having a crush on a straight boy embarrassing” something like that when he was talking about him liking Percy I think
Hey Unclaimed, you should try out Elise Kova's air awakens universe I think that you will enjoy it as it is also a massive connected universe spanning several book series and although it has elements of romance it is also mainly fantasy series and has some LGBT representation
These are the best videos 🏳️🌈
Edit: I’m half way through 9:57 and I can’t with these Amazon reviews anymore 💀
Edit: 14:32 Percy had this guy named Jason, he didn’t look too straight
Percy didn't look too straight around Luke either.
@@cayladettra7218 HA
don’t mind me I’m just dying laughing 🤣
Percy is straight don't ruin him pls.
@@adarshraj2978 he’s bi, Rick Riordan said it
@@Fandomerr percy himself said that he doesn't look at guys that way twice and nico called him straight too
my daughter read all of the books by rick Riordan at the age of six she is obsessed
impressive
Impressive indeed
“I’m just very impressed by the fact that a 9 year old will be reading this book.”
Tysm! 😊I’m 9 years old and I HAVE read all the books
please don’t release your age on the internet
YOU MEAN UNLUCKY ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW ANY JEGULUS
fr tho I know the ship is insane but I love them, and this review sent me
I'm 12 and when I read the book it was completely fine not inappropriate, I loved it. And I hate how people (my friends parents) don't approve of LGBTQ+, THEY ARE STILL PEOPLE. over all I loved the sun and the star book and a recamned it to everone.
you are more competent at 12 than most adults
pls don’t expose your age in the internet if you are a minor tho. i am older than you and still wouldn’t say my age. tho i do think that this page is less dangerous than others i would still be careful
Same 😭😭
AGREEDDDD like this book is such a masterpieceeeee I love it :D
Yaaaay Friday post!! I find these so funny, like it is no mystery this is and LGBTQ+ book, if you don’t feel “comfortable” why do you read it 😂 ( also I’m a huge wolfstar and jilly shipper too :D)
I can see why some people might not like this book, in the sense that it's not what they read Percy Jackson for, but I thoroughly enjoyed it for what it was, maybe in part because I like emotional stories. It also got me invested in Nico and Will's relationship in a way that their appearances in Trials of Apollo didn't. I felt like Trials of Apollo showed them bickering more than it showed them actually being a loving couple, and it didn't really feel like they were in love, so I liked that this book added some depth to their relationship and actually showed them being a loving couple.
I love these pjo vids keep it up!
sure TSATS wasn’t as good as rick’s other novels but i didn’t even think it was that bad? 😭
I actually really liked this book! Nico and Will are so cute and it was just a nice read overall.
It's kind of wild to me how having a lot of queer rep in a book is seen as 'pushing' representation, but as far as I can tell, unless explicitly stated otherwise, most people assume that every character in every book is cis/hetero 😅
Percy Jackson books are generally for 4th graders and yes I did read this when I was 9, when you genuinely like a book it feels so short and you binge read it in one night
10:58 im actually offended because I read most if the PJO books at 6+😭😭😭
IF I WAS HOMOPHOBIC (I AM NOT SO DONT COME FOR ME) I would use this book as a teaching moment for my kids and tell them that if they choose gayness then they will get thrown into hell and won’t live through it because they aren’t demigods 😭😭
You are a menace to society 😂🙌🏼
listen, I don't like TSaTS, but honestly some of these comments were ridiculous. though I will not deny that I agree with some of them.
SPOILERS
I think my main problem with the entire book was how Nico did not feel like Nico, and how Will (I apologize to all the Will Solace stans out there) felt like a jerk. I know that Nico is in a relationship, he's learning and changing, but I can't really see how he would go from grumpy, snappy, defensive and with a touch aversion to sappy, 'my boyfriend is the sun and he is awesome and beautiful and-' in from what I recall, a year or less. and Will? don't even get me started on Will. I really liked his character in ToA. he was interesting, loved his dynamic with Nico, and generally a great character. What this book gave me was a guy who kept complaining about the Underworld his entire trip, told his boyfriend Persephone (his stepmother!) was beautiful in front of his face then promptly asked said stepmother how you love someone from the underworld, was sickly throughout the entire trip until he worked together with Nico at the very end to defeat a primordial that even Zeus fears with the power of friendship and love.
then there was me thinking: alright, so what happened to Jason? What happened to the 'where's Jason's soul' problem? how is the entire camp empty other than our main characters and activities director? so campers can just leave anytime they want to now? why would hades send his son to Tartarus, he loves his son, why send him on a trauma trip to 'the place where even gods don't venture'? Tartarus feels completely watered down, why? how did Percy and annabeth just... forget, about bob??? nico just thinks of Percy and annabeth as 'percabeth' now, I guess....? and how the absolute frick does nico get to see Bianca and Maria's ghosts when one of them is unreachable and the other reincarnated?
then the ultimate thing that pushed me over the edge: you know how disturbing it is for a millennia lady says to a fourteen year old, "these are our children." and the child just going, alright, I hate you, I'm killing you (what a divorce!), and I'm taking the kids then promptly naming them the Cocoa Puffs... hey, that sounds like a band name?" it was just plain weird, and honestly, I can get some parent for thinking this part wasn't suitable to children. nyx felt like a stalker and a creep throughout the whole book really, zeus level. and rick didn't even go that far in writing zeus the way nyx was written.
basically, this book had me jumping ship to Jasico and binging an entire 800K fanfic over the span of three days about that very ship on ao3.
right, now that I got my rant out of the way (SORRY ABOUT THAT I REALLY AM TO TSATS LOVERS), I will admit there are some good parts of the book, but honestly a lot that made me question my knowledge of Nico's character and whether or not I actually understood or remembered anything from the books I read about phycology and whether or not relationships are toxic. if you liked this book, I'm happy for you, but I hope some of you can understand that there are people who found this book uncharacteristic and similar to some alright-fanfictions. we don't want to be haters, and we aren't trying to be haters. we just want to point out what this book could've improved, and expressed some thought that we hope rick would find helpful. fan feedback for the book released specifically for Solangelo fans, after all.
The jegulus comparisons took me out😭
SAME
Inappropriate im 11 and ive read preety much every percy jackson book and i personally loved the sun and the star
I'm 11 as well and The Sun And The Star is one of my top 3 favorite books in the riordanverse.
@@The_cool_book_nerd agreed
Hey so I love you're Chanel and I would love to see a video on what age you read each book and which where you're fav if it's not too much to ask😊
Thanks for the video idea, I'll keep it in mind!
Ngl why hate on the book for having representation when it’s very much in the title. Have they read trials of Apollo or even heroes of Olympus💀
I think the people in the reviews compared it to jegulus bc they're generally also using a lot of light/dark opposites attract tropes/themes in those fics. In that case Nico would be Regulus and James would be Will.
fair, but still a bit of a reach I think
@@Unclaimeddemigod also I forgot to mention ppl often compare James to the sun bc he has an extroverted sunny personality and Regulus is named after a star so we often see fanart or fics with them literally being the sun and the star. I wouldn’t go so far as to say that Solangelo and Jegulus are the same but they’d appeal to the same audience
WOOH POSTING FRIDAY
This is literally a tribute lol and off topic 😭👍
As someone who literally loves these books and these books inspired me to make my own series (i may or may not never) publish...these made me laugh. Because its mainly *because* of the represenation of these characters i'm even semi-able to write queer characters but i cant ever fully confirm because of where i live. Literally, the main mc of my book is kinda like nico, the person hes paired up with is similar to will, the other two main mcs are literally kinda like piper and shel, these damn books have influenced a lot of my story writing. Its even the fact will and nico are a thing that i ended making my ocs for my book who literally hace the same care and yes, those two are guys! Hell, if it wasn't for the writing in rick riodarn's stories, i wouldve never noticed how gay i made them 😭
Thank you!
I LOVED that book so much and my friend has read it 17 times. These reviews are making me angry. Homophobic people don't get it. Also this book was so great so I don't get the "Its so poorly written" like what?
It’s my second favorite book in the whole world and I was super excited about it, I screamed, laughed , almost cried and just absolutely adored it. I do understand that it can feel a little too forced with the explicit queerness for example the chat between Piper and Nico, but I really really loved it and in my opinion is almost perfect
CARRY ON IN THE BACKGROUND
The GoodReads reviews were so true! I loved the book at first, but it got worst after a while. I will just read solangelo fanfic to make feel better.
Okay I've never read anything in the Percy Jackson universe but like, surely you're not just buying the book without reading the summary right? I'd have to imagine the summary says that they're in a relationship if it's a main part of the story
people just love to complain
Apparently, I was not a normal nine year old, because I was reading Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, and basically any other books like that I could find.
Just watched this whole video..
Now I’m gonna reared TSATS for the 4th time ☺️
8:14 Imma trauma dump on a fanfic I found once. So, it was on Wattpad bc I didn’t feel like going on Ao3, and what I was looking for was js some random story, maybe not even pjo related, about the gods as mortals. I clicked one that looked decent and started reading it. The Olympians were made mortal teenagers and sent to Goode High school, where apparently every Demigod ever goes to school (Thalia, Nico, Annabeth, Percy, Travis, Katie were the ones there I think). Zeus tries to build this (fatherly) relationship with Thalia, and it fails MISERABLY, not to mention she’s a hunter of Artemis and is for some reason still in school? Also, Thalia has these romantic feelings for Nico. Huh?? Demeter and Hermes are out here desperately trying to keep Travis and Katie from dating. And…Nico…took Artemis….on a date…which was sabotaged…by Apollo and Aphrodite…like…what….And Artemis somehow ended up in this dumpster (thanks Apollo and Aphrodite?) and then she hated Nico, and then we find our Thalia is self harming and I’m JUST SO LOST and when I got to Thalia doing sh I just gave up because that author did Thalia dirty in that fic. Also did Nico and Artemis dirty, their characters did it deserve such treatment
14:33 in the Sun in the star Nico mentions how he fell in love with a straight boy in regards to Percy but that doesn't mean that Percy actually is straight that just means Nico thinks he's straight he could be bi and just Nico does not know that but Nico does call Percy a straight boy in this book
I’m sry but wdym Hadestown the musical is bad…
Hadestown is amazing, a work of art
Prove. Me. Wrong.
Uhhhh people are so annoying the sun and the star was a good book it had its pro and cons but still enjoyable. I disagree with those one star reviews. But u know what I realized my first video I had ever watched from u was a couple years ago when u released the reading homophobic reviews of TTOA series lol.
Rick intentionally doesn't write in a timeline, his books pretty much are always set in the time he's writing them. Another obvious example is Chalice of the Gods, there's so much stuff in there that wouldn't have existed back in the timeline. As far as I remember, he wants to appeal to the current middle school generation more than to force an early 2000s and 2010s story. I just really can't remember which interview or video that was.
Okay, the fact that one of them slandered Hadestown 16:02 is bad. Hadestown is a musical about Orpheus and Eurydice and it’s actually pretty good. I can’t say I love all the songs but I have my favorites and know people that are huge fans of the musical.
I love The Sun and the Star
If you like Percy Jackson you should check out Lockwood and Co by Jonathan Stroud. It even got turned into a tv show. It's about these kids who fight ghost in London.
I have seen it around before and it does look interesting
@Unclaimeddemigod I highly recommend it! It's got Percy Jackson's vibes, and Rick Riordan himself has left a review and love it! You should totally check it out.
5:02 It makes meh sad as a trans male 😔
i feel like a lot of people just don’t read the synopsis of the books they read bc it literally says in the synopsis of this book that their “relationship is tested to the core” what did people expect???
I just never let my parents see the cover when I borrowed it from the library they didn't know anything about the gayness
14:19 uncle Rick never said water boy was straight, but on twitter he said that Percy was pan
I've seen a GoodReads response from him in which he says that he doesn't see Percy as queer in any shape or form, but fans are welcome to headcannon him as such if they think it makes sense.
Percy is canonically straight
@@adarshraj2978 ig but Rick posted on twitter that he is pan
Have you ever read this book called 5 feet apart
I hate this book it was just so cringey and uch. Idk I loved their relationship and this book ruined it for me.
WHY AM I JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS BOOK?!?!
IDK GO READ IT (if you read the books of pjo before it :3)
As a Nico hater I think automatically hating a book because of and LGBTQIA+ relationship is in it is the dumbest thing I’ve heard
3:13 Fun Fact; the Magnus Chase series introduced me to the concept of people being genderfluid.
Same
me too
Love the video
thanks!
I have to hide my books from my familly, bc they have problem with LGBT comunity. God help me.
I liked the book. But, the nonlinear timeline mixed with the dream parts was very confusing. I couldn’t tell you what happened or was a dream. I would say 3 stars.
Also, Rick seems to be losing the art of subtlety. It has been an issue since Heroes of Olympus and is just getting worse. Mainly this issue was with Piper and left her character inverted within the fandom. It feels like Rick doesn’t trust his fandom to figure things out. If all a character thinks about is that they don’t think of something, then it’s all they think about. If the trend continues, we are going to have another DC Icons on our hands and nobody needs more DC Icons
❤
My family is all Christian but the same time they don’t really care that it’s like has gay in it, but to be completely fair half of my family has only read the original five books where there’s not a lot shown and then I and my mom and dad are currently trying to read the rest of it
No way its been 2 yrs
did those people just compare rick's book to the fucking fanfics? i dont care what those are but are they in their right effing mind?
the reason rick chose mark to cowrote was because rick felt he couldn't justify the queer representation enough because he is not queer, hence deciding on mark as he is queer and a fantastic writer in his own way to establish more authenticity with the characters. I personally found it very endearing and responsible and respectful of him towards the characters.
They say they are solangelo fans but they can't respect the books more cause it has an additional author ...............than the fanfics? it's not the authors' problem if you're talking with your last two braincells and destroyed the rest while reading fanfics, like bro, PICK a struggle.
Percy is straight. It was mentioned in a couple of books