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You picked the mug up at the end and I thought to myself "That mug is gonna be hot" ... sure enough :) Merry Christmas, thanks for the info and smiles.
The book has aged like wine in the sense that it has long since stopped functioning as remotely acceptable grape juice and has become something else entirely remarkable.
Yes, at first it seemed like a sweet, and ripe fruit; now it seems like something alcoholic, like a racist uncle who only shows up on Christmas, or the occasional football game.
“Prowling bands of savages roam throughout Maine and New Hampshire” One of the few parts of this book that is more accurate in the present than when it was written.
My grandfather was a gynecologist and used to collect old pamphlets about women's anatomy for fun. Believe me, some of the stuff in there will blow your mind
And if you zoom out and look at education quality across America you will come to realize that it’s pretty much sub-par and producing the next generation of idiots like an assembly line.
We found an ancient book for/about boy scouts at a boy scout camp. There was a section about the stalking merit badge. It’s kind of about tracking animals, but also there’s a section where you are required to stalk someone without their knowledge.
People would think that it meant tracking down escaped slaves, but if this is a book about boy scouts badges then it couldn't have been from those times since the Boy Scout Association was founded in 1910. I'm curious, did you ever learn of the purpose of that requirement?
@@Ryan.2 Baden-Powell or BP, as he is known, was a famed and very successful British army scout in the Boer wars. He felt that children would benefit from bushcraft and community skills. He founded the Scouts and Guides after the war. while it came from war, the skills were actually used in many independence conflicts, such as Poland and India, as well as the Blitz. Thus the stalking is from a survival perspective. however it could definitely be used wrongly. remember, softly softly catchy monkey!
"Eskimo" didn't only refer to the Inuit, and actually isn't a fully outdated term. Many members of groups other than the Inuit (such as the Yupik) prefer it because it prevents them being lumped in with the Inuit - like you unknowingly did here.
It's so confusing, we hear "oh you shouldn't use X term, it's offensive and outdated" but then other people will be like "actually X term is still perfectly valid and some people prefer it" so it's like, do we use the term and get branded as racists by some people because some other people prefer it? It sucks, I wish this whole language thing was easier. I did already know that certain people prefer to be called Eskimo rather than Inuit, but it's just like... language is so stupid. Like how it used to actually be an insult to call someone "queer" but now you're supposed to call people that?
That’s very interesting I never knew that! Thank you for sharing this with me I will absolutely keep my eyes peeled for that in the future. I always kind of wondered why Inuit replaced it despite still seeming like one blanket term and this shed a lot of light on that.
Rather newly described European and colonial people had been enduring them and recognizing them as something different from ordinary storms for hundreds of years at this point (since the Spanish spent their first years in the Caribbean) Hurricanes were considered especially upsetting to them because they did not resemble anything which had been described by classical authors who were at the time of early colonization regarded as authoritative sources on the natural world It is more likely that only at this time had meteorological science been applied to these phenomena which had been less formally recognized for many years And for the native people they were of course just part of the functions and structures of the universe (even with specific gods relating to them)
@@felderup A lot of storms do start off as waves off of Africa, but many form from things like cold fronts and low pressure systems. I love sharing info about Tropical Cyclones so forgive me if this is useless to you.
@@jedveilleux1463 Even to this day Hurricanes/Tropical Cyclones rarely impact Europe and when they do they've lost all tropical characteristics and are typically extratropical windstorms. Things like this are so interesting to me because of things like local folklore and early depictions of tropical cyclones. Just 75 years prior to the publishing of this book the Atlantic saw her deadliest Hurricane slam into the Lesser Antillies with recorded 200 mph gusts of wind, you have to think about how that impacted the ideas about weather in the Americas. This stuff is so crazy looking back on. Sorry for the novel, I'm planning on studying meteorology when I go to college next August so my brain is essentially fueled by discussions like this.
@@local_weather_dingus i mentioned merely from the point that the storms travel in a way that they never would have experienced, they go the wrong way.
I have a 1910 US History Book. In the last chapter they write about two brothers in Ohio invented an aeroplane. "it is a great curiosity, but will never develop into anything useful".
As a native can confirm first thing i do everyday is hunt a deer come back home grab a stick and declare war on my neighbor its quite fun dont know why you civilized folk dont do it.
It reminds me of a polish encyclopedia named "New Athens or the Academy of All Sciences" published in 1748. My favorite quote is from the chapter about animals. That's a definition of a horse: _A horse_ _Everyone can see what a horse is like._ And that's the comprehensive definition. Another one: _It's a thing worth admiration in bears' anatomy that every year they grow a new kidney. So as old they are as many kidneys they have, bound together like a bunch of grapes._
Me as an European: "I don't have enough money to buy the really old books. So, the oldest I have, is only from 1692!" Americans: "This ist a very, very old book! It's from 1855!"
@@roberth721I'm Swiss, we go one step further (pun intended): I once had a customer, who needed quite urgently some chemical product. I said, "I can order it for you now, and it will be here tomorrow, early in the morning. Or: You can drive to the next store, they have it in stock right now!" He looked at me quite puzzled and said: "What?? That store is 20 minutes (ca. 19 km / 11.8 Miles) away!! And that's just one way! I also have to drive the same way back! That's another 20 minutes! No, no! Just order it for me, I will pick it up here tomorrow!"
The point of this video is how *SHORT* a time it's been for such huge changes, and a stark reminder of things some people want to think never happened.
The book mentioned the 'cupidity' of the settlers dispossessing the indigenous peoples; cupidity means greed or craving for wealth or possessions - so there is a sense that the author perhaps wasn't completely on board with it. (Another Aussie here)
I can't speak for Australia but there was some level of resistance to the idea of native displacement in America at first. There's a famous letter exchange between George Washington and one of his cabinet during his first term discussing how they can best prevent illegal territorial transgressions of the border American land and Native land: to be clear, they were talking about how to keep _American settlers_ from grabbing Native land in defiance of the US treaties with the tribes. Unfortunately only about a generation later any remaining interest in coexisting at least relatively peacefully was stomped to bits by Andrew Jackson.
@@manyplural4265I don’t think you know what those words mean. Not trying to be mean but maybe give it a quick google. Cognitive dissonance isn’t a “mask” that doesn’t really make sense.
18:20 It's worth noting that cupidity means greed, so actually this is one place where this text fairly accurately describes things, even if it's rather abridged. "The richness of their lands provoked the greed of the whites and they were evicted." It's actually interesting to see the self awareness here, in contrast to the descriptions of basically every other conflict between Europeans and the native peoples.
Agreed - I just left a comment making the same point, and now I see others already said the same thing. I think it would be interesting to look at how older thinkers recognized the sinful motives of white people but did so without condemning the genocide as a whole. I suspect they often viewed it as a fait accompli, completed by divine providence, despite the sins of many persons involved.
It's probably because the book was written in the North, and the North and South were only a few years removed from the Civil War. Probably also why the book calls Southerners uneducated and calls them out for stealing land, while they ignore when they did the same thing in King Phillip's War
Yeah, the North has it’s own demons with there Native population. My State, in the North, has recorded the largest mass shooting/killing of civilians (*not yet recognised*) orchestrated with guns.
Also likely to do with the fact that they did appear to have assimilated, the lack of which was a justification for the removal of the native nations. Similar I suppose to how Ethiopia received sympathy from the very nations that colonized Africa.
Aussie viewer here, I actually recommended you to my archaeology professor (I’m taking it as a minor) and one of his first questions to the class was what our influence to looking into archaeology. And because he hadn’t heard of you he asked me for a link to your channel and apparently he really likes it!
Spaniard here who studied History and Archaeology at University. I don't know how I got here, but yeah, he has fans all around the world XD And yeah, reading ancient History books is weirdly amazing. We had a subjet called "Historiography", meaning History of History, and it's very interesting how Historians (and also Archaeologists) are bound to their own cultural context even when they're trying to be factual. And also, when you read some stuff, you get terrified, yep...
@@SpiderMonkeyElf the amount of times people try to use "So does it mean Americans live on stolen land?" as a gotcha to "own a lib" during twitter argument is astonishing. Like, yes. What makes them to believe they will get another answer?
@@kicunya12huh? How is that statement used as a ‘lib smack down?’ I’m failing to understand your reason in this… I’m not sure that’s EVER being used as a “gotcha to own libs…” that just doesn’t make sense… unless you have excerpts and specific instances, then I’m sorry because my head isn’t grasping this rationale. Please clear this up for me lol… TIA. 🙏🏽
@LVplumber I'm going to hazard a guess, with current international events in mind, that the original conversation likely had something to do with Isreal, and the"own" comment was to counter a statement about that conflict being rooted in land disputes. Just a guess, though. There's many other possibilities that could lead to someone using that statement as a "gotcha" style statement.
@@Michael-Archonaeus Let's do some history lessons! By 1855, the UK, Portugal, Sweden-Norway, Japan, France, Korea, Austria, Russia, Spain, Prussia, Serbia, Haiti, Malta, Denmark, Oman, Mexico, Chile, Japan, Peru, Colombia, Hawaii, Venezuela, Central America, New Zealand, Greece, Bolivia, Uruguay, the Ottoman Empire, British India, Moldova, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil had ALL outlawed slavery... this is a short list, and Vermont outlawed it in 1777, so it's not a matter of moral relativism, these people were monsters in 1855 🙃
Regarding the use of the word "country" to describe Africa, our reaction to it might be an instance of being separated by a common language. When we say country, we almost always mean a political entity. In 1855, "country" usually just meant a contiguous region of land of whatever size. This is similar to how we now say crayfish aren't fish; when we say "fish", the word describes a phylogenetic relationship. If, instead, we mean "fish" to refer to any organism that primarily inhabits the water, crayfish *are* fish. This phenomenon doesn't smooth over all the differences between ancient and modern outlooks, but a failure to pay attention to it will always exaggerate that difference. To a lesser degree, the same goes for the word "peculiar", which to our ears almost invariably means "strange". In the 19th century, it was just as easily a synonym for "particular" or "unique". I know that still makes the claim inaccurate (since Africa is so ethnically diverse), but it still has a different tone in 21st century English than it does in 19th century English. Another example is "intercourse"; in the 19th century, the word meant close interaction. It is much funnier to read it in the modern sense, though.
@@Ashley-1917 This reminds of how "ejaculated" as a synonym for "exclaimed" is used in the _children's classic,_ Harry Potter. It all depends on time and place.
"you know for someone who absolutely hates British people, I gotta say tea is pretty good" "That's was a joke. Please don't take that seriously. I don't actually like tea" 😭🤣 that was out of pocket
Yes it's always making a joke about hating on an ethnic group to appeal to a viewing demographic; where have we heard that before. How this guy gets any sponsorship I can't imagine.
@@wrong-unkim9080 I wonder if those people did anything objectionable to earn that distaste? Like maybe run a world spanning empire looting and killing millions?
@@wrong-unkim9080 A historian from New England, born in Boston, taking potshots at the British.... is confusing to ya'll? That joke has all sorts of layers you may have missed. I hope you aren't seriously upset, it's pretty hilarious to a loyalist up here in the north.
living in an Alaskan village, I can say that "Eskimo" isn't an *outdated* term, but is used more as a generalization for the separate parts of Inupiaq and Inuit communities. Similarly, Indian is used as a generalization for Athabascan, Haidan and the other inland or southeastern communities. Aleuts (from what I remember) is considered separate from both. A great book to read that I read in high school about the relations between Eskimo (more specifically Inupiaq) and Athabascan communities On the Koyukuk. It's really an autobiography but it has several stories relating to this subject. I always love nerding out about my home state lol.
I was reading some Lovecraft earlier today.. and he was talking about "degenerate devil worshipping esquimoux" and it took me a while before I realised he was talking about Eskimos. Yeah his writings are racist af at points
@@camzoman ok to be fair... A pitch black cat called el-negro? (Although having read Lovecraft I'm gonna guess homie used the N word with the hard R and all that) 10/10
Aussie perspective: The history of America and it's geology, flora, fauna, all that stuff, is WILDLY different to that of Australia and this, combined with the entertaining way you communicate such info, makes your channel very interesting to me.
That's one reason why I find pre history so amazing. Everything is different here due to the isolation Australia has from the rest of the world, but everything is also different for the rest of the world. Its just delightfully interesting!
Bro, legit came to say the same thing 😂 He's a really entertaining presenter and the scripts he writes (if it isn't completely off the cuff?) are fire 🔥 Plus, a lot of Aussie education focuses on world histories since our own country's history is so recent so I don't think these topics are really anything new to us.
@@JackyBoBacky666 In my experience all we have been taught about is history class is the gold rush or federation for every single term of history we had. We had like 4 weeks on European history and that’s it.
And yet colonisation was much the same on both continents - treat the local people as animals who had no right to be there and how dare they fight back as their land was invaded. By the time they got to Aus the Brits had refined things to the point of legislating that the Aborigines were fauna and therefore did not have the rights of humans to defend their lands or families, to feel, to vote. That only changed in the 1950s.
@@hadgeron9556 in Victoria in the 80s we did ancient civilisations (Sumer, Egypt, Greece) in year 7, year 8 was entirely English (William the conqueror to Elizabeth I), year 9 was Australia from Captain Cook onwards, although taught badly and I don't remember much other than the attitude that it was "terra nullis" and how dare the Aborigines defend themselves, year 10 was Asian history 1/3 of the year on each of India, China, and Japan. In the last few years my kids have all done medieval history in year 8, but mixed through a more general sociology subject, so far less in depth than any of the histories I learnt.
Just a super quick note for 26:05 The term 'Hottentot' is an old Dutch/Afrikaans word for the Khoi people of southern Africa, and is today generally seen as a slur. Just the more you know :)
"The fine lands of these Indians provoked the cupidity of the whites and after various difficulties, they were all removed to the Indian Territory." Modern translation: "The natives were so successful, and their land was so prosperous, that the white men got super jealous, forcibly rounded them all up and moved them to the Rez."
If history has taught me anything, the 1500s-1900s were basically a multiplayer nation building game where Europe just blitzed the tech tree, got toxic, and took over almost all of the server.
@@KincaidCalder-vn6bo well Europe wasn't a single entity; it's more like a group of really sweaty gamers that started getting really competitive with each other and then blitzed the tech tree and took over most of the server just to one-up each other
Yeah the whites were no different than the natives. The natives were doing the same thing until the white man came with better weapons and did unto them.
I don’t get why people are complaining about the quote. He literally just said it as it is. He never claimed what happened was good or bad or whatever.
A while ago, i found an old dictionnary in a cabin i rented,one without electricity or any kind of signal. It was missing many of the front and back pages, and we wanted to know what year it was. When we found "the great war" we all stared at each other and said: oh no... a very fun evening, going back and forth in the book, with historical event in mind to find the closest year. We ended un calling it between 1935 and 39.
I have a 19th century Stephen Foster song book. The lyrics are frankly shocking. It's why we rarely hear his songs anymore, even though he was the most popular song writer of his time. The most shocking part is that he was abolitionist and considered very progressive...
I think that soon after WWI ended it was already being called "The World War" which is presumably why "World War II" became the dominant name for the second one. I believe that your dictionary has "The Great War" though just because one term took over doesn't mean the other one was gone yet.
25:01 Hi, Scottish person here to explain! The Clyde would be in reference to the River Clyde in the West of Scotland which passes through Glasgow before eventually flowing into the sea as rivers are wont to do. The Firth of Clyde is the coastal inlet around where the Clyde and the sea meet, "firth" being etymologically related to the word "fjord". The Antonine Wall was a smaller and lesser known Roman fortification than the larger, older and better preserved Hadrian's Wall in northern England. The Antonine Wall was a construction of stone foundations and turf that stretched from The Firth of Clyde in the west to the Firth of Forth on the opposite coast.
Black viewer here! Recently been slooooowly enjoying your content and I think you talked about this history's wonderfully. It's shifty all this happened, but it happened! And I love how you put emphasis on saying something along the lines of yeah we as individuals didn't cause slavery but we are dealing with the repercussions of those actions. And it's true. The sooner we learn to understand the past and acknowledge it it becomes waaaaaaay easier to talk about and even bond. Many people don't realize this. You also make learning abput my history much more digestible for me. I don't always want to hear hoe my family was hurt in extremely gruesome detail, but your still able to talk about the topic without saying much of that at all and it feels healing to someone who had great grandparents who suffered under american slavery. Thank you! You are a doll!
@@colinsteeley we absolutely do not and should not. We should remember it happened and acknowledge it for the sake of not repeating it, but we shouldn't let it be definitive of our past, and carry on with our lives.
I wonder why he didn't want to read where it said negroes. I've heard that term a long time ago. I wonder where the word derived from. It's Latin for black people? Then why didn't he read it? Weird
@@AngryNegativeHistoryProject it can be a slur in different places of the world. Overall ot really depends where you come from but often times it's better to be safe then sorry. The origins of the word in alot places does derive from negative connotations
@@koolaidblack7697 and that's ok. It is part of my past. My great grandpa was a slave. That is always going to be part of me because it is all the information I hav3 on that side of my family. Every day I wish I knew them more then that but it's what they have been stripped down to. I don't have a choice to remember him as an accountant or a bakery. He never had that chance because he wasnt given that chance. It was taken from him. So it's very much important to remember it.
If you're into this kind of stuff I ogtta recommend cooking books from pre 1920's. At some point the become "housecare" books, and they are fascinating. Gives you a look into not only diet and fads, but also general cultural stuff: how should kids be raised, what should be cleaned (whats important), what men and women do, and so much more. Cooking books are really fascinating from a historians persoective
My mom has this collection of cookbooks she loves called the "southern heritage cookbook", and it's got a bit of that too. It explains the why's of cooking, not just the how's, and I think it has the history of some of the dishes too.
Omg I LOVE those books! I recently found an eggnog recipe from 1895 and I made it for my husband and he said it was the best eggnog he's ever had. He said it was so good it shouldn't even be considered eggnog it tastes so much better than store bought. He said the store version tastes like it's extremely watered down with hardly any flavor. Highly recommend making some for yourself
This style of 'cookbook' is 1000's of years old, some of the earliest texts from the Middle East, Turkey etc, were all about how to live and what to eat. They were medicinal cookbooks too, its really fascinating. I was really surprised how complex they were too, thank you for my course on Archaeology or I'd never have gotten the assignment that led me to finding out. I think it was a presentation on the use of medicinal plants in ancient history. That was a wild ride of research I tell ya, LOL, and the 2nd presentation where I went way overtime and the lecturer didn't notice cos she was so into it. Still lost the time points tho.
2:15 Since you've gone out to the woodpile, let me tell you this: My great grandfather was trained as a shipbuilder but sustained a knee injury so turned to building outhouses to make his living, in the 19th century it was a good business to go into. One thing I learned was the placement of the privy was essential, never too close to your well or water source~ that would be bad, but also just always on the far side of the wood pile~ an arm full of wood was considered the pee tax, everyone brought sticks of wood back from the privy, to fail to do so (even by a house guest) was an insult to the home, but doing so kept the house warm. (Just a historical footnote I thought you'd all enjoy)
As an Australian, I can safely say I know why you are so popular down here. You freakin' awesome and you do all the cool stuff I used to be interested in as a kid.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia I was trying to think of an intelligent way of saying that Milo has a very Australian style of humour and you hit the nail on the head
13:12 Wow, the passive voice is sure doing a lot of heavy lifting there… “The Indians, recently numerous, are nearly all removed to the Indian territory.” Who removed them?? No one knows! Impossible to say!! 🤷♀️
@@FellsApprentice This is def true. We've gotten to where life is TOO easy. Now the #1 cause of death in the US is due to fckin OVEREATING. How insane is that? For most of human history most people lived on the edge of barely having enough food to survive, and now we have so much that we kill ourselves by eating too much. I also think there's a major flaw to the "we've failed as a species" mentality. Humans put themselves on a pedestal, believing that our superior intellect makes us better than everything else on the planet. In reality, deep down we're no different than many animals. We've invented this idea of morality and we use it to judge each other. I get the reason why, the only way for us to have the advanced, civil society that we do is if we have laws and morals to keep people in check and working together. We're conditioned from childhood to act in a "civil" manner, and while this conditioning makes it to where we have a great deal of control over our primal instincts and impulses, its def not perfect, and we still give in from time to time. With all of that being said though, there is more death, pain, and suffering that occurs in the animal kingdom on a daily basis than humans create in a decade.
I think the reason why us Aussies love the channel so much is that despite it being less talked about, the way colonisers treated our indigenous population (and how they're treated now) is incredibly similar to how native americans were/are treated in the usa. Plus your enthusiasm and passion for every topic is v aussie haha
@@someguycalledCh0wdah They get the most benefits and have gotten some of the best deals ever just because of their heritage. They are given far more than say, people of European descent.
That picture of the earth from the moon is pretty freaking close for having been made from somebody's imagination more than a century before we had the real thing.
@@velazquezarmouries prehistory is a term for a period in human history, while history is both the following period and also the umbrella concept that includes both, and no historian would say prehistory (the period) is not history (the study of past events, particularly in human affairs). Patagonia has been inhabited by humans since at least 10.000 b.C. That's thousands of years of human evolution, interaction and conflict, that is *history* . A history that, besides milenia of indigenous history , includes at least the colonization by the Spanish, or the Conquest of the Desert, those 2 being some of the darkest episodes in the Modern Era in Argentina.
Now that we know you have a large Aussie viewer count, we gotta demand some Australian based videos. First Nations people have some incredible history that barely anyone seems to know about.
Its super interesting that Australia wouldn’t be called Australia for another 46 years when this book was written. Its just above Africa in the unfortunate zoom early in the video as New Holland. Indigenous people are notably missing from the description however with how the rest of the book seems to be they’ve probably been lumped in with the “unique wildlife” 🤢🤢🤢🤢
@@Ramikin Well, no. Australia has offcially been called Australia since 1824, when the British Admirality formally adopted the name. As for the indigenous people being listed under "unique wildlife", I doubt it. There's several long standing myths about the early treatment and recognition of our Indigenous people. They were never classified as fauna, and George III expressly ordered that they were to be treated fairly and with respect. British and Aboriginal relations were actually very cordial in Botany Bay until an influenza outbreak about 6 months after settlement caused the Eora to become hostile. There were other settlements along the East coast that were far more friendly with the local population, for a much longer time.
I have an archaeology book from 1914, *The Antiquity of Man in Europe*, and other than a few uses of a particular word for racial categories, it's aged surprisingly well. While their understanding of prehistory is limited, and it predates the widespread use of the term "Mesolithic", the understanding of stratigraphy, flintknapping and art actually hold up pretty well
Hello and happy holidays from Aotearoa New Zealand! You were surprised about your demographic, but yes, I can confirm at least one person in the southern hemisphere loves your archaeology, history and anthropology content. Your channel is actually what inspired me to finally take the leap into adding anthropology into my science major :)
Us Aussies like your sense of humour & sarcasm. Your blatant ability to tell it like it is & we love how you point out the blatant stupidity of the vast majority of conspiracy theories.
And we Americans point and laugh at you because you lost a war against birds. Which still isn't as embarrassing as us nearly losing a war against ourselves. And letting Trump get in the White House. And like half of the things the U.S. has done.
To answer your question about why Aussies watch you: You have similar humour to what we are used to (satire, sarcasm and stupid jokes) and we love learning about history and archaeology as we are a touch limited on that topic (being an island and sorta small... sorta 🤣)
What above said and also the fast pace of his words and ideas. I usually find Americans difficult to listen to (because they bore me) they stop to summarise constantly like we can't follow two articles in a whole paragraph lol it's excrutiating
I mean, there are so few high quality, well researched, historical content creators to begin with. Practically none talk about Australian topics except in passing (and it's always the bloody emu war!). There is a gap in the domestic market here, and those of us that are curious are forced to sate that desire abroad with unfamiliar topics and locales. It is completely unsurprising to me that Australians make up such a high percentage of viewer demographics.
I want more of this series: "Papa Milo Reads:" The production quality, the background noise of the fire, the cat on the piano.... It all comes together into something that makes me nostalgic for when I was a kid. A gripe: You should not have gathered the wood. You should have made US do that, and then yelled at us when we left the door open.
Interesting to see just how hurricane season has changed in the time since this book was released, typically August to October is considered the peak season while hurricane season as a whole lasts from June to November. Meteorological history is so damn fascinating to me.
@@fanaticaltechpriest1002 I agree! It's mostly due to climate change and the warming of our oceans providing more time for tropical development, but we've also had more La Nina years recently (warmer waters in the Atlantic Basin, colder in the Pacific) which contributes to that.
8:09 That's accurate. Actually, that doctor was one of the best of the Victorian era. This is because at the time operations were performed in theaters, and because he was so fast, his operations left little time for the patients to be exposed to the open icky victorian air.
I laughed along with you at a lot of the absurdities and blatant ignorance in the book, but it also made me think about how people will look at _our_ books and ideas in the future. Perhaps my great great grandchildren will be laughing at me and finding my thinking horrific too.
the belief of "being the most advanced and illuminated culture that ever was" has always been a thing, we saw it since the late mesopotamians, calling themselves better than their forefathers, and today kids have no respect since plato the problem comes that, in this age of archives immediately accessible to pretty much everyone, people will blindly believe whatever, and the documents are wrong, even if is one of their books that hasn't been touched in decades , and they themselves where the latter who did
This is why I think it's important for us to look at the way we look at previous generations and remember it. Then when the time comes that new generations find some of our current views this way we don't try to punish them for it but remember that they have everything we knew and more.
I have no basis for thinking it, but I've always thought people in the future would look back at our industrialization process and gross mistreatment of animals in factory farms and the like with a similar level of disgust. To us it's a normal part of every day life, but we are still causing untold levels of suffering to other creatures for our own benefit. Not trying to tell anyone they should be vegan, I'm certainly not one. Just a normal participant in a society that I know there are ethical issues with.
I mean we are living at the precipice of another dark ages. Our people are constantly putting out the dumbest things right now and they will absolutely be laughed at and scoffed at in the future. Looking at you, Republicans...
Interesting point about the Raccoon Mountain entry: Wikipedia claims the Raccoon Mountain Caverns network was only discovered in the 1920s, while a "Nickajack Cave" doesn't seem to be part of the larger network you showed an image of, and is listed as only having been flooded in the 1960s after previously being a saltpeter mine through the first half of the 19th century (no mention of pre-existing water), and the "original" size of the opening is listed as much larger. It may just be another cave which took the name later. This book may contradict that and be worth citing for some updates if anybody is interested in doing so, assuming it's actually reliable. It's specific mention here almost feels like it was just somewhere the author had visited and thought was neat.
I'm from Argentina and have a flu right now, hearing the part about Argentina made me laugh so hard I had a cough attack. Thanks, Milo xD The part about the welsh colony is really cool and interesting, they even have a cool metal dragon that spits fire protecting the town. It's called Trevelin (Spanish pronunciation: [tɾeˈβelin]; Welsh: Trefelin) in case y'all wanna look it up ;D
Right?? My editor added that part in there as he is from Argentina and I thought it was fascinating! Argentina is not the top of my list of guesses when trying to find Welsh colonies. Best holiday wishes and I hope you get well soon!
Late to the party but, as a British person. the part about being 'racist' to British people made me laugh so much my yellowed crooked teeth wobbled a great deal, as I gave a hearty bellowing chuckle
Fun Fact about Nickajack Cave! The cave is home to nearly a quarter million bats that leave each night to hunt mosquitos and the like. It is an amazing sight to see, and there are many caves to spelunk(with permission) Source: I've cannoed there myself with my local scout troop a few years back before aging out.
Less fun fact: going caving in places that have many bats is a pretty bad thing given the pandemic of fungus in the process of wiping bats out entirely. It's spread between caves primarily by people going exploring, and if people *keep* going spelunking there indefinitely, pretty soon Nickajack is going to be home to a quarter of a bat.
@@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 you can’t go spelunking in nickajack for this very reason, the cave is fenced off and only accessible by boat. People canoe or kayak close to the entrance and watch the bats fly out around dusk. Sorry if my first comment wasn’t clear enough. :) Edit: the cave may only be accessed by authorized state personnel
As someone of the British persuasion I bloody laughed my ass off at that tea joke 🤣. Going through the uncomfortable history of the US in this book is like a minefield xD. Love your content buddy ❤️. Merry Christmas and Happy Yule everyone 🥰
@@Asterion_Mol0c Oh yeah I know, I was talking about the phrasing and things like that... I fully understand that Britain is an older country with 1000s of years on the states. It's just all the issues we had in those years are compressed for America. As someone who has been through US and British schooling, I can tell you that in the UK you are taught that we haven't always been the "good" guys. In the US I realised that you're not taught much about the darker history points, or much world history for that matter. Anyway I hope that you have a brilliant holiday and that you are able to spend time with your loved ones ❤️
@DarkAngel99FTW really? Because I'm from the UK and history about the British empire was very much whitewashed. Not entirely, they definitely talked about slavery and stuff and they didn't really lie about it, it's more that they left out a lot of the more brutal moments of the British imperial history and focused more on other periods.
@@robokill387 I wouldn't say whitewashed per say but I would say that they tried to teach it from an unbiased point of view. Especially recent things such as Northern Ireland and the operations there. If I look for it I could probably find my school history book xD Sorry if my point was misconstrued but I originally mentioned that in the UK you are taught unbiased (as much as can be) history. Also another thing is that I'm grateful that in the UK I was taught world history and not just US history like when I lived in MT & IN.
Found your channel while watching a ArtofKickz compilation of your one minute reactions to conspiracies on tiktok and what not. It's crazy you saying you're just out of college. You have a serious gift of being able to speak with humor and facts at the same time and i have learned a lot just watching i think 3 of of your videos so far. I have a top 5 list of youtube channels that's been mostly the same for a while now and you pretty much instantly moved into the top 3 or 4. I like watching compilation videos probably because after years of let's say abusing certain things it's hard to hold my attention for very long but your videos are different it's like 2am and i took my sleep med and still i'll prolly watch a few more videos. Only other channel that's been able to hold my attention is MrBallen especially at night. I probably learned more in the last couple hours than i have the last couple months.
"Prowling bands of savages roam throughout Maine and New Hampshire" As somebody from Maine I can confirm this fact remains true to this day. I wake up at 6:00, get my prowling coat on, head outside, join up with the rest of my fellow savage prowlers, and we go to prowl until 12:00 (lunch break), after that it's back to prowling until about 5:00, at which point we all go home.
Some of the vocabulary used in that textbook needs a little explanation too. For example, the natives of Patagonia's "Intercourse" with the Spanish means simply interaction or exchange (in this case of ideas). And when the Esquimaux (sic) were described as "Rude" it didn't mean impolite, it meant "simple", or primitive. That doesn't exactly make it nicer but it's important to understand what was being said. Also, to put a slightly positive spin on things, the fact that we can read this today and be appalled by the racial attitudes of this era *is* a sign that we have advanced. That's not to say we don't still have an incredible amount of further work to do, but change begins with understanding, and we've advanced quite far in that area at least.
The way the book makes such casual and cordial reference to the Trail of Tears and the relocation of the First Nations to Western Territories that Colonists would illegally take from them a couple of decades later is insane. Side note if you could ever find journals from Cope or Marsh during the Bone Wars that would be interesting to see considering they where some of the American Colonists that were technically illegally entering the Western Territories that had been given to the Natives they were just more tolerated by some of the tribes that camped in the badlands since they weren't there to settle and didn't pose an active threat to the Natives.
As an Oklahoma native there currently stands a *truly horrific* plaque in our very capital calling the trail of tears a “relocation convoy to stop the warring of these tribes” tragically, while most spoken word and history classes tell it as it is, official texts and textbooks still tend to gloss over it as much as possible.
@@montymints I learnt here in school (not in the USA) that the indians were moved because the colonists wanted to kill them, but they were killed in their way to Oklahoma anyway.
@inutamer365 The whole point of the relocation was because the European Settlers later American's and Canadian's where like "Okay you live out there in the West that's yours... here's some papers saying that is your land" then over the next 4 decades they kept finding Gold and other valuable resources out west so they kind of just backed out on that. Mount Rushmore itself is on land that was deeded to the Natives by the American Government to later have that same Government (different administration) ignore said deed. That's what I mean by illegal.
Your videos got me back into geology and archeology, a subject I haven't touched since I was 10 and picked up an Anthropology book. It's always nice to see somebody who thinks that the social sciences are real science.
@@BrandonBrown-wl3xy yeah the one thing I will say about milo is that he’s super dramatic, and VERY arrogant. That’s why I’m happy to hear him say stuff along the lines of respecting people’s theories and evidence as if it were their own.
“I have no idea what you [Australian] people are doing watching me.” Archeology is global. We all share this planet, so our oldest ancestor’s practices appeal to everyone. 💕
There's another book that I noticed had, uncannily, "aged like a fine wine", like few if any can and that was the classic Alexis DeToqueville's - Democracy in America, written during the first years of the United States. It turned out to be the best social scientific analysis of a new country, culture and people that I have ever read, before and since. After enjoying reading it in my history and political science classes, I reread it again after 40 years and found it more new, interesting, relevant and revealing about what is going on today then today's reporting. How can that happen? But as you read it, the surprises are in every page; still quite accurate and astoundingly true about 230 years later! You'll thank me for the recommendation, I assure you.
Oh that book! I actually read it for my government class in high school (I mostly read primary sources for the time) its fascinating to read about early America from an outsiders perspective
@@luthientinuviel3883 But the part I was talking about is 1) Democracy In America describes Americans as a people for the first time and brand new American democratic political, social and economic developments that 2) STILL hold true today; describing new things first and thoroughly described by him LIKE NO OTHER before or since. Actually, that he was French, a foreigner, an "outsider", as you say may have aided in his being objective, but his origin or nationality is really irrelevant as to what he found important to report. He is, I think actually an early social scientist, specifically, a political scientist or anthropologist, practicing science before these disciplines were formally known in reporting new and interesting phenomena of his time. He could easily lecture on such subjects today, imho.
@@luthientinuviel3883 THAT'S what I meant! It'll shock ya how this guy knew us up and down like nobody else. As a historian, I remind you that the French then had the stability and luxury time to be just about at THE most liberal humanist progressive western culture/civilization of the Eurpoean Enlightenment; that even set the standard and themes of Constitution SOOO French political values, concerns, issues are mutual concerns with this new outgrowth in a democratically accountable republic federation of States and a wholly new type of people not united by anything other than devotion to each other, the land and it's humanist, egalitarian, liberty lifestyle. D in A is remarkably timeless.
It's fascinating what people "knew" and what they believed not so long ago. My great-great-grandparents were among the first non-Native settlers in Oklahoma, and they were so excited about getting some land - even if the Native tribes had already been promised all the land there in perpetuity. Colonizers sounds like an appropriate label there. Someone in my family still owns that original farm.
To me this seems more the government's fault than individual settlers though. Settlers were like modern day migrants only they went to the emptiest land they could find as opposed to the densest cities, but the purpose was the same: have a better life. If the natives had already been promised that land by the government when it moved them from somewhere else it was on them to make sure they got it and not grant that land to other people who didn't necessarily know what was going on.
@@Altrantisman, people need to stop treating active wrongdoing as simply silly mistakes. People aren’t stupid. It was well known what was happening to indigenous people.
@@arturintete2461 Well known means something very different in the 1850s than today. You don't know that those colonists could read. That doesn't make it right, but perspective, you know?
Just remember that colonialism was a good thing performed at great risk by courageous people. It tamed the land and spread civilization. The bad press it gets today is revisionism by neomarxist ideologues.
I heard your colours were similar to ours but can you explain the meaning behind them? For us, yellow is for the sun because it's bloody hot, red is for our blood and our land, black is for our skin and the night sky. We don't use white.
Pre-Columbian History is fascinating to me, but land rights have made archaeology a bit of nightmare. I have heard rumors of a Mississippian Culture near me, but we are considered "too far north."
@@angelawossname The medicine wheel has many meanings and teachings but I mainly think of it as a calender for the seasons and for the stages of life. But teachings are hard to find and remember, off the top of my head I'm not entirely sure what some of the meanings for white are.
Wow. You hit all the things I like with one video: historical perspective, common sense politics, oddly relevant topic, and a really old book. Plus a bonus research term definition reminder. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Literally every single nation on the planet is on stolen land. Saying "you're on stolen land" is meaningless and only serves to incite hatred. #commonsensepolitics
Me, thinking: damn, 1855... what did people in what is now history think of even further back in history? Milo: it contains some views of the world that will make you go "wow that was the most horrible thing I've ever heard in my entire life" Me: ohhhh, _that_ kind of history 😳
raccoon mountain is near chattanooga, it is so weird to hear something about a destination so close to home that is kind of morphed into purely a tourist destination. Last time i went there i was probably all of 13-14 and there are rock formations that hang from the roof of the cave (stalagmites or stalagtites, i dont recall) but i have always seen them looking like melted wax. This is one of the few places that i have been to that fueled my adventurous side. looking back on it most of the places that made me want to learn more were basically tourist spots or just readily available, crazy how my idea of these place changed so much with time
It honestly makes me so sad that there's just so much history we are never taught in school. I would've love to have a class just on old texts and been able to discuss them. I think some of the charts and population statistics definitely should be included in modern teaching of history. It really brings so much into perspective.
Funfact: I still have my grandpa's book called "The Standard Dictionary of Facts" that's from, (last time i checked) 1960! like you said, it's always fun to look through old books and see what's become outdated
Your video has renewed my faith in humanity and is honestly the best I have watched in weeks. Love your candor and info/comedic delivery! Bravo, Sir! 😊
I think this might have been one of first, if not the first, video I watched. I've been cleaning a building all day and listening to your videos, and now I'm finally settling in to watch a video rather than just listening, and it's a nice change to see visuals for this one. As I was going through my day with your videos, I found the rewatchablility of them delightful! A lot of the jokes still hit even when I know what happens, the bits of the stories I've forgotten are great to brush up on, the sound cues that signaled a chapter/topic change really helpful to prevent getting lost in the longer narratives, and the questions and comments that arose on my (re) watches of these still engage my brain in a way that makes the work of scrubbing showers less of a labor. You have an amazing way of connecting to audiences (I love the talk recording from VTech you posted, it was a really cool way to see you 'in-person', virtually) that comes across as both open and knowledgeable- you remind me of a younger version of my beloved, Mt. Dew-guzzling geology professor Andy. I think you two would get along, but you'd probably talk each other hoarse. Anyway, basically I really appreciate the effort that you and your team
Even now the new ones are already aging like milk especially here in Texas. Our 7th grade kids have to take "history of Texas", and I assure you, about 80% of the "information" is poorly disguised propaganda. Like, a quick Google search away from debunking kind of propaganda.
All in all, good modern history books seem relatively future proof imo. Unless we get an actual communist revolution and "wage slavery" becomes mainstream terminology.
Coming back to this video after learning the history of Palestine really puts things into perspective, especially the section regarding the colonization of the North American continent and the displacement and genocide of the indigenous people.
As a northern transplant in the south, I've had someone literally tell me that their husband is a confederate war historian and that the civil war "had nothing to do with slavery." Meanwhile, the "reasons for cessation" from every state went on and on about how the North was taking away their slaves.
@@scipocelah6677 A historian who says "x has nothing to do with y" in any case has oversimplified something. History is complicated and everything affects everything
This just came into my recommended a year after the fact lol, but I was shocked to hear the term "torrid zone" at 22:03! The term "torrid zone" is an idea from antiquity: a geographical concept that held that the tropical zone of the earth was effectively an impassable wasteland incapable of hosting life - which now that I'm thinking of it kind of makes sense when your primary geographic scope of reference tells you that every territory south of the Mediterranean ultimately transitions into a hot, arid desert. The term was still in use well into the 16th century, after the beginning of settler colonialism in the Americas, but I would have assumed that by the 1850s a massively improved understanding of global geography would have nipped it in the bud.
i'm relieved to see a large creator who isn't afraid to tell the worst of their audience to GTFO instead of trying to cater to them. i know there's a place for making educational content that reaches reactionaries, but you don't have to be that person. too often, when creators i like try to host communities that are welcoming to reactionaries in an attempt to bridge the gap, they end up making communication in their comments/pages/servers unwelcoming to everyone else because it's just an endless deluge of bigotry and dogwhistles and "just asking questions" about fundamental rights. it's even worse when the creator's livelihood is dependent on a few high-paying members who happen to be reactionaries, because the problem members won't get booted no matter what they say, even when they're running off dozens of other community members with their long-winded rants about how certain marginalized groups are a drain on society or whatever. i wish more creators understood that fostering well moderated communities is more valuable to growth and loyalty.
@@connor3284 yes connor. not wanting to be subjected to yet another fascist's rant about how me and mine should be imprisoned or euthanized is so *conformist* of me. my desire to not be verbally assaulted with threats to my existence is totally not based out of any philosophical or ethical principles i hold. astute observation. /s
@@58209 Well, realpolitik friend/enemy power struggle and raw survival is one of the few logical ethical systems that can come from a secular/atheistic worldview, which you presumably hold, so I will concede that argument, but in your original post you made universalist claims like "fundamental rights" which you have no basis for unless you believe in a divinely inspired objective morality separate from human subjectivity.
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Were you at the foals concert at the roadrunner last week
The book has aged like wine in the sense that it has long since stopped functioning as remotely acceptable grape juice and has become something else entirely remarkable.
Ah yes, the foul taste of vinegar
It aged like wine. To be specific, prison toilet wine made from Gatorade and orange juice and has bred more Clostridium botulinum than yeast.
More like it aged like Arsenic-tainted wine.
Yes, at first it seemed like a sweet, and ripe fruit; now it seems like something alcoholic, like a racist uncle who only shows up on Christmas, or the occasional football game.
Wine was never grape juice tho, it becomes wine when it becomes wine, it's not wine before lol
“Prowling bands of savages roam throughout Maine and New Hampshire”
One of the few parts of this book that is more accurate in the present than when it was written.
Heyyyy… well….. it’s actually accurate nevermind
Dont forget Massivetwoshits. Those Mass holes actually think of it like a badge of honor.
It was accurate back then, too. It just wasn't true of the native populations, but instead it was true of the invaders.
Accurate for different reasons yet still applicable.
i hear they call them WASPs
My grandfather was a gynecologist and used to collect old pamphlets about women's anatomy for fun. Believe me, some of the stuff in there will blow your mind
lol im guessing some stuff was wildy innacurate
@@APotatoMan some is generous
dont you hate when you get histeria and your uterus just goes for a walk all over your body? 🤣
dude even TODAY there’s tons of misinformation floating around about female anatomy. imagine what it read like back then
Any women in here; listen to me.
DO NOT go on a train! Your uterus will fall out.
Thank me later
"education has recieved little attention in the southern states" - well that went south real quick
🥁💥
It's almost as if everyone started on the east coast🧐
And if you zoom out and look at education quality across America you will come to realize that it’s pretty much sub-par and producing the next generation of idiots like an assembly line.
Not much has changed in that department..
Unlike education, that really went south
We found an ancient book for/about boy scouts at a boy scout camp. There was a section about the stalking merit badge. It’s kind of about tracking animals, but also there’s a section where you are required to stalk someone without their knowledge.
People would think that it meant tracking down escaped slaves, but if this is a book about boy scouts badges then it couldn't have been from those times since the Boy Scout Association was founded in 1910. I'm curious, did you ever learn of the purpose of that requirement?
lol "ancient"
@@Ryan.2 Baden-Powell or BP, as he is known, was a famed and very successful British army scout in the Boer wars. He felt that children would benefit from bushcraft and community skills. He founded the Scouts and Guides after the war. while it came from war, the skills were actually used in many independence conflicts, such as Poland and India, as well as the Blitz. Thus the stalking is from a survival perspective. however it could definitely be used wrongly. remember, softly softly catchy monkey!
Yup, that's... Something 😬.
And there are people who still believe that America hasn't completely fuked itself by being America.
"Eskimo" didn't only refer to the Inuit, and actually isn't a fully outdated term. Many members of groups other than the Inuit (such as the Yupik) prefer it because it prevents them being lumped in with the Inuit - like you unknowingly did here.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the self-righteousness of progressives is always laughable.
This is a great fact and I wish you many up votes.
Got'eem.
It's so confusing, we hear "oh you shouldn't use X term, it's offensive and outdated" but then other people will be like "actually X term is still perfectly valid and some people prefer it" so it's like, do we use the term and get branded as racists by some people because some other people prefer it? It sucks, I wish this whole language thing was easier. I did already know that certain people prefer to be called Eskimo rather than Inuit, but it's just like... language is so stupid. Like how it used to actually be an insult to call someone "queer" but now you're supposed to call people that?
That’s very interesting I never knew that! Thank you for sharing this with me I will absolutely keep my eyes peeled for that in the future. I always kind of wondered why Inuit replaced it despite still seeming like one blanket term and this shed a lot of light on that.
The thought that a hurricane was a newly discovered phenomena at that time is very interesting.
Rather newly described
European and colonial people had been enduring them and recognizing them as something different from ordinary storms for hundreds of years at this point (since the Spanish spent their first years in the Caribbean)
Hurricanes were considered especially upsetting to them because they did not resemble anything which had been described by classical authors who were at the time of early colonization regarded as authoritative sources on the natural world
It is more likely that only at this time had meteorological science been applied to these phenomena which had been less formally recognized for many years
And for the native people they were of course just part of the functions and structures of the universe (even with specific gods relating to them)
they apparently start as dust devils in africa and join in the ocean.
@@felderup A lot of storms do start off as waves off of Africa, but many form from things like cold fronts and low pressure systems. I love sharing info about Tropical Cyclones so forgive me if this is useless to you.
@@jedveilleux1463 Even to this day Hurricanes/Tropical Cyclones rarely impact Europe and when they do they've lost all tropical characteristics and are typically extratropical windstorms.
Things like this are so interesting to me because of things like local folklore and early depictions of tropical cyclones. Just 75 years prior to the publishing of this book the Atlantic saw her deadliest Hurricane slam into the Lesser Antillies with recorded 200 mph gusts of wind, you have to think about how that impacted the ideas about weather in the Americas. This stuff is so crazy looking back on.
Sorry for the novel, I'm planning on studying meteorology when I go to college next August so my brain is essentially fueled by discussions like this.
@@local_weather_dingus i mentioned merely from the point that the storms travel in a way that they never would have experienced, they go the wrong way.
I have a 1910 US History Book. In the last chapter they write about two brothers in Ohio invented an aeroplane. "it is a great curiosity, but will never develop into anything useful".
What's the book called?
weren't the wright brothers from north carolina?
@@billciphergirl6049 US History
I bet you 10 dollars it doesn't say that.
No matter how uncomfortable these books are, we need to keep them around to remind us of how we have progressed. Learn from the past don't hide it.
We have to say this 🤦🏻♂️ it hurts my mind that was forced to learn to read early and started with philosophy psychology and physiology
This, I don’t like this growing opinion that we should bury the past as the only way to move into the future. The past is always going to be relevant
Cant wait for people 200 years from now read what we’ve got
@@ultragear207 I just hope they are more competent than us and the government actually cares for the people.
@@ultragear207 how will they read the ashes of your computer hard drive
As a native can confirm first thing i do everyday is hunt a deer come back home grab a stick and declare war on my neighbor its quite fun dont know why you civilized folk dont do it.
That sounds so fun I'm a little jealous
Awesome! 😂
Instructions unclear, i am now a libertarian
I, too, collect scalps for my *_headdress_*
At the time it was likely for natives to do that more than now in the age of technology, I mean look at you commenting on UA-cam.
It reminds me of a polish encyclopedia named "New Athens or the Academy of All Sciences" published in 1748.
My favorite quote is from the chapter about animals. That's a definition of a horse:
_A horse_
_Everyone can see what a horse is like._
And that's the comprehensive definition.
Another one:
_It's a thing worth admiration in bears' anatomy that every year they grow a new kidney. So as old they are as many kidneys they have, bound together like a bunch of grapes._
Like bro how dumb you have to be a horse is a horse i love ancient historians🤣🤣💀💀
Based
It didn't want to deal with the philosophical implications lol
Only in poland i tell you
XD
Me as an European: "I don't have enough money to buy the really old books. So, the oldest I have, is only from 1692!"
Americans: "This ist a very, very old book! It's from 1855!"
Americans think 200 years is a long time and Europeans think 200 miles (321.9 km) is a long way.
@@roberth721I'm Swiss, we go one step further (pun intended):
I once had a customer, who needed quite urgently some chemical product. I said, "I can order it for you now, and it will be here tomorrow, early in the morning. Or: You can drive to the next store, they have it in stock right now!"
He looked at me quite puzzled and said: "What?? That store is 20 minutes (ca. 19 km / 11.8 Miles) away!! And that's just one way! I also have to drive the same way back! That's another 20 minutes! No, no! Just order it for me, I will pick it up here tomorrow!"
I mean...before 200 years they were British-origin settlers. Let's give a bit of leeway.@@roberth721
The point of this video is how *SHORT* a time it's been for such huge changes, and a stark reminder of things some people want to think never happened.
@@roberth721 As a European... real.
The book mentioned the 'cupidity' of the settlers dispossessing the indigenous peoples; cupidity means greed or craving for wealth or possessions - so there is a sense that the author perhaps wasn't completely on board with it.
(Another Aussie here)
The way I read it is he has a "They were kind of dicks but oh well what you gonna do."
or the cognitive dissonance mask slipped for ONE second
I can't speak for Australia but there was some level of resistance to the idea of native displacement in America at first. There's a famous letter exchange between George Washington and one of his cabinet during his first term discussing how they can best prevent illegal territorial transgressions of the border American land and Native land: to be clear, they were talking about how to keep _American settlers_ from grabbing Native land in defiance of the US treaties with the tribes.
Unfortunately only about a generation later any remaining interest in coexisting at least relatively peacefully was stomped to bits by Andrew Jackson.
@@manyplural4265I don’t think you know what those words mean. Not trying to be mean but maybe give it a quick google. Cognitive dissonance isn’t a “mask” that doesn’t really make sense.
@@stoneagealienz874 just using an analogy, but admittedly a bad one, i know it doesn't work like that :)
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It's worth noting that cupidity means greed, so actually this is one place where this text fairly accurately describes things, even if it's rather abridged. "The richness of their lands provoked the greed of the whites and they were evicted." It's actually interesting to see the self awareness here, in contrast to the descriptions of basically every other conflict between Europeans and the native peoples.
Agreed - I just left a comment making the same point, and now I see others already said the same thing. I think it would be interesting to look at how older thinkers recognized the sinful motives of white people but did so without condemning the genocide as a whole. I suspect they often viewed it as a fait accompli, completed by divine providence, despite the sins of many persons involved.
Taking someone else's land is one of the oldest injustices, easy to relate to and sympathize with even if you think the other people are inferior.
It's probably because the book was written in the North, and the North and South were only a few years removed from the Civil War. Probably also why the book calls Southerners uneducated and calls them out for stealing land, while they ignore when they did the same thing in King Phillip's War
Yeah, the North has it’s own demons with there Native population. My State, in the North, has recorded the largest mass shooting/killing of civilians (*not yet recognised*) orchestrated with guns.
Also likely to do with the fact that they did appear to have assimilated, the lack of which was a justification for the removal of the native nations. Similar I suppose to how Ethiopia received sympathy from the very nations that colonized Africa.
Aussie viewer here, I actually recommended you to my archaeology professor (I’m taking it as a minor) and one of his first questions to the class was what our influence to looking into archaeology. And because he hadn’t heard of you he asked me for a link to your channel and apparently he really likes it!
I'm an Aussie too, looks like Milo is very popular and I know exactly why. We love left leaning orators who cut down tall "poppies".
I am a Nordic archaeologist and i love Milo too! :D
Another Aussie here! I'm not really into archaeology or history but I do like science and he's hot 😂😂
I is a simp... simple girl 😅
@@steviefordranger198 It’s really silly to follow educational UA-camrs for their political views. That’s just wholly unscientific.
Spaniard here who studied History and Archaeology at University. I don't know how I got here, but yeah, he has fans all around the world XD
And yeah, reading ancient History books is weirdly amazing. We had a subjet called "Historiography", meaning History of History, and it's very interesting how Historians (and also Archaeologists) are bound to their own cultural context even when they're trying to be factual. And also, when you read some stuff, you get terrified, yep...
my dumbass history teacher said there was no large genocide of native americans despite him just talking about the trail of tears
Too common, unfortunately
@@SpiderMonkeyElf the amount of times people try to use "So does it mean Americans live on stolen land?" as a gotcha to "own a lib" during twitter argument is astonishing. Like, yes. What makes them to believe they will get another answer?
@@kicunya12huh? How is that statement used as a ‘lib smack down?’ I’m failing to understand your reason in this… I’m not sure that’s EVER being used as a “gotcha to own libs…” that just doesn’t make sense… unless you have excerpts and specific instances, then I’m sorry because my head isn’t grasping this rationale. Please clear this up for me lol… TIA. 🙏🏽
@LVplumber I'm going to hazard a guess, with current international events in mind, that the original conversation likely had something to do with Isreal, and the"own" comment was to counter a statement about that conflict being rooted in land disputes. Just a guess, though. There's many other possibilities that could lead to someone using that statement as a "gotcha" style statement.
@@AmosIrontree Israel also, but encountered it before recent escalation, in conversations that have to do with colonialism
"This is way more depressing than I thought it be" is something I frequently said when I first started reading about US history when I was younger.
You think that's depressing? Try reading about the rest of the world!
@@Michael-Archonaeus oh my god michael it's not a fucking competition.
@@58209 It's a race to the bottom, that's how social justice works!
@@Michael-Archonaeus Let's do some history lessons! By 1855, the UK, Portugal, Sweden-Norway, Japan, France, Korea, Austria, Russia, Spain, Prussia, Serbia, Haiti, Malta, Denmark, Oman, Mexico, Chile, Japan, Peru, Colombia, Hawaii, Venezuela, Central America, New Zealand, Greece, Bolivia, Uruguay, the Ottoman Empire, British India, Moldova, Ecuador, Argentina, Brazil had ALL outlawed slavery... this is a short list, and Vermont outlawed it in 1777, so it's not a matter of moral relativism, these people were monsters in 1855 🙃
@@noahbarnhartandit2365 The most lovely part is we still have a few people trying to figure out slavery is wrong today.
Regarding the use of the word "country" to describe Africa, our reaction to it might be an instance of being separated by a common language. When we say country, we almost always mean a political entity. In 1855, "country" usually just meant a contiguous region of land of whatever size. This is similar to how we now say crayfish aren't fish; when we say "fish", the word describes a phylogenetic relationship. If, instead, we mean "fish" to refer to any organism that primarily inhabits the water, crayfish *are* fish. This phenomenon doesn't smooth over all the differences between ancient and modern outlooks, but a failure to pay attention to it will always exaggerate that difference.
To a lesser degree, the same goes for the word "peculiar", which to our ears almost invariably means "strange". In the 19th century, it was just as easily a synonym for "particular" or "unique". I know that still makes the claim inaccurate (since Africa is so ethnically diverse), but it still has a different tone in 21st century English than it does in 19th century English.
Another example is "intercourse"; in the 19th century, the word meant close interaction. It is much funnier to read it in the modern sense, though.
"So then they met the Spanish and damn, they all started boning! Like we're talking some extensive intercourse here!"
I feel like intercourse is still used in this way fairly often
@@Ashley-1917 no
@@Ashley-1917 This reminds of how "ejaculated" as a synonym for "exclaimed" is used in the _children's classic,_ Harry Potter. It all depends on time and place.
Interesting!
Aged like a fine wine…. That was left in a car trunk over a blistering hot summer.
"you know for someone who absolutely hates British people, I gotta say tea is pretty good"
"That's was a joke. Please don't take that seriously. I don't actually like tea" 😭🤣 that was out of pocket
It was funny though 🤣
Yes it's always making a joke about hating on an ethnic group to appeal to a viewing demographic; where have we heard that before. How this guy gets any sponsorship I can't imagine.
@@wrong-unkim9080 I wonder if those people did anything objectionable to earn that distaste?
Like maybe run a world spanning empire looting and killing millions?
@@antediluvianatheist5262 which, of corse the USA have never done 😂… I wonder what the indigenous people of America feel about that 🤷♂️
@@wrong-unkim9080 A historian from New England, born in Boston, taking potshots at the British.... is confusing to ya'll? That joke has all sorts of layers you may have missed. I hope you aren't seriously upset, it's pretty hilarious to a loyalist up here in the north.
living in an Alaskan village, I can say that "Eskimo" isn't an *outdated* term, but is used more as a generalization for the separate parts of Inupiaq and Inuit communities. Similarly, Indian is used as a generalization for Athabascan, Haidan and the other inland or southeastern communities. Aleuts (from what I remember) is considered separate from both. A great book to read that I read in high school about the relations between Eskimo (more specifically Inupiaq) and Athabascan communities On the Koyukuk. It's really an autobiography but it has several stories relating to this subject. I always love nerding out about my home state lol.
I was reading some Lovecraft earlier today.. and he was talking about "degenerate devil worshipping esquimoux" and it took me a while before I realised he was talking about Eskimos.
Yeah his writings are racist af at points
@@godofchaoskhorne5043 Dude named his cat the N Word.
@@camzoman ok to be fair... A pitch black cat called el-negro? (Although having read Lovecraft I'm gonna guess homie used the N word with the hard R and all that)
10/10
book name?
@@theq4602 oops lol. I forgot the name. Its _Shadows Over the Koyukuk_
The writers brother also made a book following a similar path. Great reads.
I made eye contact with my sphynx cat right when he said "there's the sphynx"
Aussie perspective: The history of America and it's geology, flora, fauna, all that stuff, is WILDLY different to that of Australia and this, combined with the entertaining way you communicate such info, makes your channel very interesting to me.
That's one reason why I find pre history so amazing. Everything is different here due to the isolation Australia has from the rest of the world, but everything is also different for the rest of the world. Its just delightfully interesting!
Bro, legit came to say the same thing 😂
He's a really entertaining presenter and the scripts he writes (if it isn't completely off the cuff?) are fire 🔥
Plus, a lot of Aussie education focuses on world histories since our own country's history is so recent so I don't think these topics are really anything new to us.
@@JackyBoBacky666 In my experience all we have been taught about is history class is the gold rush or federation for every single term of history we had. We had like 4 weeks on European history and that’s it.
And yet colonisation was much the same on both continents - treat the local people as animals who had no right to be there and how dare they fight back as their land was invaded.
By the time they got to Aus the Brits had refined things to the point of legislating that the Aborigines were fauna and therefore did not have the rights of humans to defend their lands or families, to feel, to vote. That only changed in the 1950s.
@@hadgeron9556 in Victoria in the 80s we did ancient civilisations (Sumer, Egypt, Greece) in year 7, year 8 was entirely English (William the conqueror to Elizabeth I), year 9 was Australia from Captain Cook onwards, although taught badly and I don't remember much other than the attitude that it was "terra nullis" and how dare the Aborigines defend themselves, year 10 was Asian history 1/3 of the year on each of India, China, and Japan.
In the last few years my kids have all done medieval history in year 8, but mixed through a more general sociology subject, so far less in depth than any of the histories I learnt.
Just a super quick note for 26:05
The term 'Hottentot' is an old Dutch/Afrikaans word for the Khoi people of southern Africa, and is today generally seen as a slur. Just the more you know :)
Bump
To be fair, everything is seen as a slur nowadays. Also, nen Hittentit is Urbanus ;-)
@@hq4287 New slur aquiared, thanks.
@@SpookyScaryGangRapingSkeleton yet another for the collection
Hottentottententententoonstelling (f)
"The fine lands of these Indians provoked the cupidity of the whites and after various difficulties, they were all removed to the Indian Territory."
Modern translation: "The natives were so successful, and their land was so prosperous, that the white men got super jealous, forcibly rounded them all up and moved them to the Rez."
If history has taught me anything, the 1500s-1900s were basically a multiplayer nation building game where Europe just blitzed the tech tree, got toxic, and took over almost all of the server.
@@KincaidCalder-vn6bo well Europe wasn't a single entity; it's more like a group of really sweaty gamers that started getting really competitive with each other and then blitzed the tech tree and took over most of the server just to one-up each other
@@YayaFeiLong True. Then the Berlin conference was them making a clan,
Yeah the whites were no different than the natives. The natives were doing the same thing until the white man came with better weapons and did unto them.
I don’t get why people are complaining about the quote. He literally just said it as it is. He never claimed what happened was good or bad or whatever.
A while ago, i found an old dictionnary in a cabin i rented,one without electricity or any kind of signal. It was missing many of the front and back pages, and we wanted to know what year it was. When we found "the great war" we all stared at each other and said: oh no... a very fun evening, going back and forth in the book, with historical event in mind to find the closest year. We ended un calling it between 1935 and 39.
Imagine if you saw contradictory information, like they still call it the great war but some grammatical rules are post ww2
I have a 19th century Stephen Foster song book. The lyrics are frankly shocking. It's why we rarely hear his songs anymore, even though he was the most popular song writer of his time. The most shocking part is that he was abolitionist and considered very progressive...
@@drewharrison6433 what's the name of the song?
@@airplanes_aren.t_real It's a whole book of songs. I haven't looked at it in a couple of years. Just search "Stephan Foster song lyrics".
I think that soon after WWI ended it was already being called "The World War" which is presumably why "World War II" became the dominant name for the second one.
I believe that your dictionary has "The Great War" though just because one term took over doesn't mean the other one was gone yet.
Thoroughly enjoyed this. I'd be down for more "reads antique books, and yells about awful history" videos
Oi, give my name back
For sure!
@@quinn6160 that’s so fracked up man, I’m sorry you got your name stolen
@@ashtray3860 I know, its a real tragedy
You be careful what you wish for because it just might happen!
25:01 Hi, Scottish person here to explain! The Clyde would be in reference to the River Clyde in the West of Scotland which passes through Glasgow before eventually flowing into the sea as rivers are wont to do. The Firth of Clyde is the coastal inlet around where the Clyde and the sea meet, "firth" being etymologically related to the word "fjord".
The Antonine Wall was a smaller and lesser known Roman fortification than the larger, older and better preserved Hadrian's Wall in northern England. The Antonine Wall was a construction of stone foundations and turf that stretched from The Firth of Clyde in the west to the Firth of Forth on the opposite coast.
Thanks for taking the time to fill in these details.
What would the towers near Perth be?
7:56 hunting and war being chief pursuits sound more to me like a British nobleman than an indigenous American
Black viewer here! Recently been slooooowly enjoying your content and I think you talked about this history's wonderfully. It's shifty all this happened, but it happened! And I love how you put emphasis on saying something along the lines of yeah we as individuals didn't cause slavery but we are dealing with the repercussions of those actions. And it's true. The sooner we learn to understand the past and acknowledge it it becomes waaaaaaay easier to talk about and even bond. Many people don't realize this. You also make learning abput my history much more digestible for me. I don't always want to hear hoe my family was hurt in extremely gruesome detail, but your still able to talk about the topic without saying much of that at all and it feels healing to someone who had great grandparents who suffered under american slavery. Thank you! You are a doll!
@@colinsteeley we absolutely do not and should not. We should remember it happened and acknowledge it for the sake of not repeating it, but we shouldn't let it be definitive of our past, and carry on with our lives.
@@selenagamya1612 the "let it be definitive of our past" is exactly what's been happening though.
I wonder why he didn't want to read where it said negroes. I've heard that term a long time ago. I wonder where the word derived from. It's Latin for black people? Then why didn't he read it? Weird
@@AngryNegativeHistoryProject it can be a slur in different places of the world. Overall ot really depends where you come from but often times it's better to be safe then sorry. The origins of the word in alot places does derive from negative connotations
@@koolaidblack7697 and that's ok. It is part of my past. My great grandpa was a slave. That is always going to be part of me because it is all the information I hav3 on that side of my family. Every day I wish I knew them more then that but it's what they have been stripped down to. I don't have a choice to remember him as an accountant or a bakery. He never had that chance because he wasnt given that chance. It was taken from him. So it's very much important to remember it.
If you're into this kind of stuff I ogtta recommend cooking books from pre 1920's. At some point the become "housecare" books, and they are fascinating. Gives you a look into not only diet and fads, but also general cultural stuff: how should kids be raised, what should be cleaned (whats important), what men and women do, and so much more. Cooking books are really fascinating from a historians persoective
Max Miller collab? Yes please.
My mom has this collection of cookbooks she loves called the "southern heritage cookbook", and it's got a bit of that too. It explains the why's of cooking, not just the how's, and I think it has the history of some of the dishes too.
Might want to look into Catos Farming Guide too, if you want to go back a thousand years or two.
Omg I LOVE those books! I recently found an eggnog recipe from 1895 and I made it for my husband and he said it was the best eggnog he's ever had. He said it was so good it shouldn't even be considered eggnog it tastes so much better than store bought. He said the store version tastes like it's extremely watered down with hardly any flavor. Highly recommend making some for yourself
This style of 'cookbook' is 1000's of years old, some of the earliest texts from the Middle East, Turkey etc, were all about how to live and what to eat. They were medicinal cookbooks too, its really fascinating. I was really surprised how complex they were too, thank you for my course on Archaeology or I'd never have gotten the assignment that led me to finding out. I think it was a presentation on the use of medicinal plants in ancient history. That was a wild ride of research I tell ya, LOL, and the 2nd presentation where I went way overtime and the lecturer didn't notice cos she was so into it. Still lost the time points tho.
The 'palpable frustration' part of this video was honestly so well said. Thank you for that.
2:15 Since you've gone out to the woodpile, let me tell you this:
My great grandfather was trained as a shipbuilder but sustained a knee injury so turned to building outhouses to make his living, in the 19th century it was a good business to go into. One thing I learned was the placement of the privy was essential, never too close to your well or water source~ that would be bad, but also just always on the far side of the wood pile~ an arm full of wood was considered the pee tax, everyone brought sticks of wood back from the privy, to fail to do so (even by a house guest) was an insult to the home, but doing so kept the house warm.
(Just a historical footnote I thought you'd all enjoy)
As an Australian, I can safely say I know why you are so popular down here. You freakin' awesome and you do all the cool stuff I used to be interested in as a kid.
Also his humour is very Australia-friendly.
As an Aussie, I completely agree 🙂
Aussie's have dry sarcasm laced liberally with profanity, and this guy has it in spades.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia I was trying to think of an intelligent way of saying that Milo has a very Australian style of humour and you hit the nail on the head
Another Aussie here to
13:12 Wow, the passive voice is sure doing a lot of heavy lifting there…
“The Indians, recently numerous, are nearly all removed to the Indian territory.” Who removed them?? No one knows! Impossible to say!! 🤷♀️
"We have failed as a species" is my new motto.
#EnjoyYourApocalypse is mine.
New? You haven't been on Earth long, I take it.
No, if anything we're just way, way too successful for our own good.
@@FellsApprentice This is def true. We've gotten to where life is TOO easy. Now the #1 cause of death in the US is due to fckin OVEREATING. How insane is that?
For most of human history most people lived on the edge of barely having enough food to survive, and now we have so much that we kill ourselves by eating too much.
I also think there's a major flaw to the "we've failed as a species" mentality. Humans put themselves on a pedestal, believing that our superior intellect makes us better than everything else on the planet.
In reality, deep down we're no different than many animals. We've invented this idea of morality and we use it to judge each other. I get the reason why, the only way for us to have the advanced, civil society that we do is if we have laws and morals to keep people in check and working together. We're conditioned from childhood to act in a "civil" manner, and while this conditioning makes it to where we have a great deal of control over our primal instincts and impulses, its def not perfect, and we still give in from time to time.
With all of that being said though, there is more death, pain, and suffering that occurs in the animal kingdom on a daily basis than humans create in a decade.
I think the reason why us Aussies love the channel so much is that despite it being less talked about, the way colonisers treated our indigenous population (and how they're treated now) is incredibly similar to how native americans were/are treated in the usa. Plus your enthusiasm and passion for every topic is v aussie haha
You say that as if native Americans are treated poorly currently in America.
@@SpookyScaryGangRapingSkeleton I mean they are.
@@someguycalledCh0wdah They get the most benefits and have gotten some of the best deals ever just because of their heritage. They are given far more than say, people of European descent.
@@SpookyScaryGangRapingSkeleton Found the racist
@@SpookyScaryGangRapingSkeleton 🤡
I love how casual Milo is, it sounds like me explaining history and mythology to my friends
Stakuyi vibes almost
That picture of the earth from the moon is pretty freaking close for having been made from somebody's imagination more than a century before we had the real thing.
"Patagonia can hardly be said to have history". As an Argentinian citizen may i say based and I agree completely
Native people have thousands of years of oral history
@@letkwu yes but that's part of prehistory no writing
@@velazquezarmouries prehistory is a term for a period in human history, while history is both the following period and also the umbrella concept that includes both, and no historian would say prehistory (the period) is not history (the study of past events, particularly in human affairs). Patagonia has been inhabited by humans since at least 10.000 b.C. That's thousands of years of human evolution, interaction and conflict, that is *history* . A history that, besides milenia of indigenous history , includes at least the colonization by the Spanish, or the Conquest of the Desert, those 2 being some of the darkest episodes in the Modern Era in Argentina.
@@agentwrench chatgpt?
El porteño menos ignorante:
Now that we know you have a large Aussie viewer count, we gotta demand some Australian based videos. First Nations people have some incredible history that barely anyone seems to know about.
More people should know about the fucking intense age of the oral histories! Some of them are older than the great barrier reef
Its super interesting that Australia wouldn’t be called Australia for another 46 years when this book was written. Its just above Africa in the unfortunate zoom early in the video as New Holland. Indigenous people are notably missing from the description however with how the rest of the book seems to be they’ve probably been lumped in with the “unique wildlife” 🤢🤢🤢🤢
this channel makes me want to build the first aboriginal casino
@@Ramikin Well, no. Australia has offcially been called Australia since 1824, when the British Admirality formally adopted the name.
As for the indigenous people being listed under "unique wildlife", I doubt it. There's several long standing myths about the early treatment and recognition of our Indigenous people. They were never classified as fauna, and George III expressly ordered that they were to be treated fairly and with respect. British and Aboriginal relations were actually very cordial in Botany Bay until an influenza outbreak about 6 months after settlement caused the Eora to become hostile. There were other settlements along the East coast that were far more friendly with the local population, for a much longer time.
@no wind resistance! You really don't. UA-cam comments don't like links, but the ABC has a pretty succinct article debunking the "we wuz fauna" myth.
I have an archaeology book from 1914, *The Antiquity of Man in Europe*, and other than a few uses of a particular word for racial categories, it's aged surprisingly well. While their understanding of prehistory is limited, and it predates the widespread use of the term "Mesolithic", the understanding of stratigraphy, flintknapping and art actually hold up pretty well
Tell me you know nothing about anthropology without telling me you know nothing about anthropology
@@lucygrey37 ??? I'm an archaeologist so my knowledge of anthropology is only tangential but I'm not sure what you mean by this
@@lucygrey37 Please elaborate for us people who know nothing about anthropology.
@@lucygrey37 Elaborate please
I guess there's only so much you can learn about rocks.
Aussie here, I can confirm your sense of humour resonates deeply with us. ❤
Hello and happy holidays from Aotearoa New Zealand! You were surprised about your demographic, but yes, I can confirm at least one person in the southern hemisphere loves your archaeology, history and anthropology content. Your channel is actually what inspired me to finally take the leap into adding anthropology into my science major :)
Make that two in the southern hemisphere, although in the country some people don’t think exist, AKA Australia.
@@um9876 make that 3, also Aus haha
hey fellow kiwi
Kiwis really showing out on this video aren’t we
@@constantine3348 Indeed we are, it seems.
Us Aussies like your sense of humour & sarcasm. Your blatant ability to tell it like it is & we love how you point out the blatant stupidity of the vast majority of conspiracy theories.
And we Americans point and laugh at you because you lost a war against birds.
Which still isn't as embarrassing as us nearly losing a war against ourselves. And letting Trump get in the White House. And like half of the things the U.S. has done.
Don't worry, when he's done slagging the Brits it will be your turn!
Except we like British people more than Americans and the sheer number of video cuts nearly gives me epilepsy.
As an aussie living in America (Boston) it brings a nice sense of home and New England cultural bits I get
@@Cool-Vest the great emu was incredibly embarrassing. Just glad it wasn't cassowary's instead
Our history will be lost when our hard drives fail.
To answer your question about why Aussies watch you: You have similar humour to what we are used to (satire, sarcasm and stupid jokes) and we love learning about history and archaeology as we are a touch limited on that topic (being an island and sorta small... sorta 🤣)
I figured it was the drinking
What above said and also the fast pace of his words and ideas. I usually find Americans difficult to listen to (because they bore me) they stop to summarise constantly like we can't follow two articles in a whole paragraph lol it's excrutiating
@@stealthwarrior5768 better than where? Lmao you don't even learn the metric system.
I mean, there are so few high quality, well researched, historical content creators to begin with. Practically none talk about Australian topics except in passing (and it's always the bloody emu war!).
There is a gap in the domestic market here, and those of us that are curious are forced to sate that desire abroad with unfamiliar topics and locales. It is completely unsurprising to me that Australians make up such a high percentage of viewer demographics.
how is australia lacking in history and archaeological sites of interest???? wtf!
Mini can make the seemingly most boring stuff and make it the most interesting video you've watched all day through sheer personality/
I want more of this series: "Papa Milo Reads:"
The production quality, the background noise of the fire, the cat on the piano.... It all comes together into something that makes me nostalgic for when I was a kid.
A gripe: You should not have gathered the wood. You should have made US do that, and then yelled at us when we left the door open.
i know right!
this was so great to watch and i'd love to see more
24:35 me when that little dog that helps around the farm pops up on my fyp
Interesting to see just how hurricane season has changed in the time since this book was released, typically August to October is considered the peak season while hurricane season as a whole lasts from June to November. Meteorological history is so damn fascinating to me.
Frankly that sounds like something to be concerned about
@@fanaticaltechpriest1002 I agree! It's mostly due to climate change and the warming of our oceans providing more time for tropical development, but we've also had more La Nina years recently (warmer waters in the Atlantic Basin, colder in the Pacific) which contributes to that.
My favorite moment so far, "If I do need to convince you of that, get the F*** off my channel!".
8:09 That's accurate. Actually, that doctor was one of the best of the Victorian era. This is because at the time operations were performed in theaters, and because he was so fast, his operations left little time for the patients to be exposed to the open icky victorian air.
Well apparently not even 25 seconds is quick enough to avoid sepsis... 🙁
I laughed along with you at a lot of the absurdities and blatant ignorance in the book, but it also made me think about how people will look at _our_ books and ideas in the future. Perhaps my great great grandchildren will be laughing at me and finding my thinking horrific too.
Kindly write me up I have something for you 💢
the belief of "being the most advanced and illuminated culture that ever was" has always been a thing, we saw it since the late mesopotamians, calling themselves better than their forefathers, and today kids have no respect since plato
the problem comes that, in this age of archives immediately accessible to pretty much everyone, people will blindly believe whatever, and the documents are wrong, even if is one of their books that hasn't been touched in decades , and they themselves where the latter who did
This is why I think it's important for us to look at the way we look at previous generations and remember it. Then when the time comes that new generations find some of our current views this way we don't try to punish them for it but remember that they have everything we knew and more.
I have no basis for thinking it, but I've always thought people in the future would look back at our industrialization process and gross mistreatment of animals in factory farms and the like with a similar level of disgust. To us it's a normal part of every day life, but we are still causing untold levels of suffering to other creatures for our own benefit.
Not trying to tell anyone they should be vegan, I'm certainly not one. Just a normal participant in a society that I know there are ethical issues with.
I mean we are living at the precipice of another dark ages. Our people are constantly putting out the dumbest things right now and they will absolutely be laughed at and scoffed at in the future. Looking at you, Republicans...
Interesting point about the Raccoon Mountain entry: Wikipedia claims the Raccoon Mountain Caverns network was only discovered in the 1920s, while a "Nickajack Cave" doesn't seem to be part of the larger network you showed an image of, and is listed as only having been flooded in the 1960s after previously being a saltpeter mine through the first half of the 19th century (no mention of pre-existing water), and the "original" size of the opening is listed as much larger. It may just be another cave which took the name later. This book may contradict that and be worth citing for some updates if anybody is interested in doing so, assuming it's actually reliable. It's specific mention here almost feels like it was just somewhere the author had visited and thought was neat.
Hello
What is the brand of the firewood tote you used in the beginning of this video. It looked rather solid!
Thank You
I'm from Argentina and have a flu right now, hearing the part about Argentina made me laugh so hard I had a cough attack. Thanks, Milo xD
The part about the welsh colony is really cool and interesting, they even have a cool metal dragon that spits fire protecting the town. It's called Trevelin (Spanish pronunciation: [tɾeˈβelin]; Welsh: Trefelin) in case y'all wanna look it up ;D
trefelin = town/ place of thewmill (tref said tre) and felin for a mill said velin - as Welsh letter f is spoken as a v is in english)
vamo campeon jajaja
somos campeon mundial aguante argentina viva messi viva latino americAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Siempre quize ver Trevelin. Mi viejo fue una vez pero nunca viajo mucho.
Right?? My editor added that part in there as he is from Argentina and I thought it was fascinating! Argentina is not the top of my list of guesses when trying to find Welsh colonies. Best holiday wishes and I hope you get well soon!
Late to the party but, as a British person. the part about being 'racist' to British people made me laugh so much my yellowed crooked teeth wobbled a great deal, as I gave a hearty bellowing chuckle
Slavery and genocide are maybe not great - - hitting us with the spicy takes.
Fun Fact about Nickajack Cave!
The cave is home to nearly a quarter million bats that leave each night to hunt mosquitos and the like.
It is an amazing sight to see, and there are many caves to spelunk(with permission)
Source: I've cannoed there myself with my local scout troop a few years back before aging out.
Less fun fact: going caving in places that have many bats is a pretty bad thing given the pandemic of fungus in the process of wiping bats out entirely. It's spread between caves primarily by people going exploring, and if people *keep* going spelunking there indefinitely, pretty soon Nickajack is going to be home to a quarter of a bat.
@@iusethisnameformygoogleacc1013 you can’t go spelunking in nickajack for this very reason, the cave is fenced off and only accessible by boat. People canoe or kayak close to the entrance and watch the bats fly out around dusk. Sorry if my first comment wasn’t clear enough. :)
Edit: the cave may only be accessed by authorized state personnel
I think it's also the setting for one of the oldest text based adventure games.
Hell yes, bats are great!
As someone of the British persuasion I bloody laughed my ass off at that tea joke 🤣. Going through the uncomfortable history of the US in this book is like a minefield xD.
Love your content buddy ❤️.
Merry Christmas and Happy Yule everyone 🥰
Shut up Britain you've done. Worse
@@Asterion_Mol0c Oh yeah I know, I was talking about the phrasing and things like that...
I fully understand that Britain is an older country with 1000s of years on the states.
It's just all the issues we had in those years are compressed for America.
As someone who has been through US and British schooling, I can tell you that in the UK you are taught that we haven't always been the "good" guys. In the US I realised that you're not taught much about the darker history points, or much world history for that matter.
Anyway I hope that you have a brilliant holiday and that you are able to spend time with your loved ones ❤️
@DarkAngel99FTW really? Because I'm from the UK and history about the British empire was very much whitewashed. Not entirely, they definitely talked about slavery and stuff and they didn't really lie about it, it's more that they left out a lot of the more brutal moments of the British imperial history and focused more on other periods.
@@robokill387 I wouldn't say whitewashed per say but I would say that they tried to teach it from an unbiased point of view. Especially recent things such as Northern Ireland and the operations there. If I look for it I could probably find my school history book xD
Sorry if my point was misconstrued but I originally mentioned that in the UK you are taught unbiased (as much as can be) history.
Also another thing is that I'm grateful that in the UK I was taught world history and not just US history like when I lived in MT & IN.
@@OverdosedToast because we won’t the war lmao some American
Found your channel while watching a ArtofKickz compilation of your one minute reactions to conspiracies on tiktok and what not. It's crazy you saying you're just out of college. You have a serious gift of being able to speak with humor and facts at the same time and i have learned a lot just watching i think 3 of of your videos so far. I have a top 5 list of youtube channels that's been mostly the same for a while now and you pretty much instantly moved into the top 3 or 4. I like watching compilation videos probably because after years of let's say abusing certain things it's hard to hold my attention for very long but your videos are different it's like 2am and i took my sleep med and still i'll prolly watch a few more videos. Only other channel that's been able to hold my attention is MrBallen especially at night. I probably learned more in the last couple hours than i have the last couple months.
"Prowling bands of savages roam throughout Maine and New Hampshire"
As somebody from Maine I can confirm this fact remains true to this day. I wake up at 6:00, get my prowling coat on, head outside, join up with the rest of my fellow savage prowlers, and we go to prowl until 12:00 (lunch break), after that it's back to prowling until about 5:00, at which point we all go home.
Some of the vocabulary used in that textbook needs a little explanation too. For example, the natives of Patagonia's "Intercourse" with the Spanish means simply interaction or exchange (in this case of ideas). And when the Esquimaux (sic) were described as "Rude" it didn't mean impolite, it meant "simple", or primitive. That doesn't exactly make it nicer but it's important to understand what was being said.
Also, to put a slightly positive spin on things, the fact that we can read this today and be appalled by the racial attitudes of this era *is* a sign that we have advanced. That's not to say we don't still have an incredible amount of further work to do, but change begins with understanding, and we've advanced quite far in that area at least.
The way the book makes such casual and cordial reference to the Trail of Tears and the relocation of the First Nations to Western Territories that Colonists would illegally take from them a couple of decades later is insane. Side note if you could ever find journals from Cope or Marsh during the Bone Wars that would be interesting to see considering they where some of the American Colonists that were technically illegally entering the Western Territories that had been given to the Natives they were just more tolerated by some of the tribes that camped in the badlands since they weren't there to settle and didn't pose an active threat to the Natives.
As an Oklahoma native there currently stands a *truly horrific* plaque in our very capital calling the trail of tears a “relocation convoy to stop the warring of these tribes” tragically, while most spoken word and history classes tell it as it is, official texts and textbooks still tend to gloss over it as much as possible.
All these thoughtful comments and I'm neerding about the MST3K ref @6:48. 😂
@@montymints I learnt here in school (not in the USA) that the indians were moved because the colonists wanted to kill them, but they were killed in their way to Oklahoma anyway.
@inutamer365 The whole point of the relocation was because the European Settlers later American's and Canadian's where like "Okay you live out there in the West that's yours... here's some papers saying that is your land" then over the next 4 decades they kept finding Gold and other valuable resources out west so they kind of just backed out on that. Mount Rushmore itself is on land that was deeded to the Natives by the American Government to later have that same Government (different administration) ignore said deed. That's what I mean by illegal.
@montymints that's genuinely one of the craziest, funniest, and saddest things I've ever heard of
13:55 my joke is "They forgot to count slaves. Could've boasted highest level of education in the entire US if they did"
Your videos got me back into geology and archeology, a subject I haven't touched since I was 10 and picked up an Anthropology book. It's always nice to see somebody who thinks that the social sciences are real science.
''We have failed as a species'' is now my favorite quote of your whole channel.
Agree 100%
It's the dumbest thing he's ever said. To be angry at people being ignorant 150 years ago is completely unreasonable.
@@BrandonBrown-wl3xy but the funneh
@@BrandonBrown-wl3xy yeah the one thing I will say about milo is that he’s super dramatic, and VERY arrogant. That’s why I’m happy to hear him say stuff along the lines of respecting people’s theories and evidence as if it were their own.
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“I have no idea what you [Australian] people are doing watching me.” Archeology is global. We all share this planet, so our oldest ancestor’s practices appeal to everyone. 💕
I like to believe that it's primarily the shared hatred of the English
@@user-svqmbiv as an Irish-American... aye...
this video made me want to speak to my ancestors souly to tell them that they sucked.
There's another book that I noticed had, uncannily, "aged like a fine wine", like few if any can and that was the classic Alexis DeToqueville's - Democracy in America, written during the first years of the United States. It turned out to be the best social scientific analysis of a new country, culture and people that I have ever read, before and since. After enjoying reading it in my history and political science classes, I reread it again after 40 years and found it more new, interesting, relevant and revealing about what is going on today then today's reporting. How can that happen? But as you read it, the surprises are in every page; still quite accurate and astoundingly true about 230 years later! You'll thank me for the recommendation, I assure you.
Oh that book! I actually read it for my government class in high school (I mostly read primary sources for the time) its fascinating to read about early America from an outsiders perspective
@@luthientinuviel3883 But the part I was talking about is 1) Democracy In America describes Americans as a people for the first time and brand new American democratic political, social and economic developments that 2) STILL hold true today; describing new things first and thoroughly described by him LIKE NO OTHER before or since. Actually, that he was French, a foreigner, an "outsider", as you say may have aided in his being objective, but his origin or nationality is really irrelevant as to what he found important to report. He is, I think actually an early social scientist, specifically, a political scientist or anthropologist, practicing science before these disciplines were formally known in reporting new and interesting phenomena of his time. He could easily lecture on such subjects today, imho.
@@jeffwalther3935 well as I said I read it in freshman year in high school so the memories a bit foggy but totally! Maybe I should give it a reread
@@luthientinuviel3883 THAT'S what I meant! It'll shock ya how this guy knew us up and down like nobody else. As a historian, I remind you that the French then had the stability and luxury time to be just about at THE most liberal humanist progressive western culture/civilization of the Eurpoean Enlightenment; that even set the standard and themes of Constitution SOOO French political values, concerns, issues are mutual concerns with this new outgrowth in a democratically accountable republic federation of States and a wholly new type of people not united by anything other than devotion to each other, the land and it's humanist, egalitarian, liberty lifestyle. D in A is remarkably timeless.
It's fascinating what people "knew" and what they believed not so long ago. My great-great-grandparents were among the first non-Native settlers in Oklahoma, and they were so excited about getting some land - even if the Native tribes had already been promised all the land there in perpetuity. Colonizers sounds like an appropriate label there. Someone in my family still owns that original farm.
To me this seems more the government's fault than individual settlers though. Settlers were like modern day migrants only they went to the emptiest land they could find as opposed to the densest cities, but the purpose was the same: have a better life. If the natives had already been promised that land by the government when it moved them from somewhere else it was on them to make sure they got it and not grant that land to other people who didn't necessarily know what was going on.
@@Altrantisman, people need to stop treating active wrongdoing as simply silly mistakes. People aren’t stupid. It was well known what was happening to indigenous people.
@@arturintete2461 Well known means something very different in the 1850s than today. You don't know that those colonists could read. That doesn't make it right, but perspective, you know?
@@Poldovico I cant tell if this is a joke or not lmfao
Just remember that colonialism was a good thing performed at great risk by courageous people. It tamed the land and spread civilization.
The bad press it gets today is revisionism by neomarxist ideologues.
“That looked like it hurt.” Cut the music AAANNNDDD TRANSITION.
Can we all give a round of applause to whoever did the editing ? That was beautiful
Aussie here, not much to say but we love it when we’re mentioned
You have a large Aussie viewership because you have an Aussie sense of humor. 👍
That's it exactly!
As a fellow Aussie I agree 👍 💯 %
Consigning that as another fellow Aussie
I'm an aussie too! It's crazy to think how many Aussies watch this guy despite how large the population of Americans are. It's pretty cool.
Absolutely agreed
I feel very noticed as First Nations and great respect for my history, your respect and love will not be unnoticed. Your videos are a blessing.
I heard your colours were similar to ours but can you explain the meaning behind them? For us, yellow is for the sun because it's bloody hot, red is for our blood and our land, black is for our skin and the night sky. We don't use white.
@@angelawossname gday :)
Pre-Columbian History is fascinating to me, but land rights have made archaeology a bit of nightmare.
I have heard rumors of a Mississippian Culture near me, but we are considered "too far north."
@@angelawossname The medicine wheel has many meanings and teachings but I mainly think of it as a calender for the seasons and for the stages of life. But teachings are hard to find and remember, off the top of my head I'm not entirely sure what some of the meanings for white are.
oh are you maya or am i getting my flags mixed up again
Wow. You hit all the things I like with one video: historical perspective, common sense politics, oddly relevant topic, and a really old book. Plus a bonus research term definition reminder. Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Literally every single nation on the planet is on stolen land. Saying "you're on stolen land" is meaningless and only serves to incite hatred. #commonsensepolitics
@@kayliw.3086 the fact he understands how important history is so we don't repeat those mistakes.
@@kayliw.3086 So you don't think not liking slavery and genocides is common sense?
@Kayli W. correction, he doesn't read much propaganda. What he reads is history, not the blatant propaganda you like to call history.
@@CherryBotV2 ''everything that hurts my feelings is propaganda''
A bald man with man many UA-cam channels often says, "The past was the worst." This book is one of many ways to prove he is correct.
Milos style is such an enigma. Sometimes he looks like a cowboy, sometimes a skater, sometimes a Victorian business man, but always Milo.
"Milotic (non-Pokemon)"
"Our textbooks are so old that they refer to the Women's Suffrage movement as 'trouble ahead'!"
Me, thinking: damn, 1855... what did people in what is now history think of even further back in history?
Milo: it contains some views of the world that will make you go "wow that was the most horrible thing I've ever heard in my entire life"
Me: ohhhh, _that_ kind of history 😳
For all the horrible stuff, the modern world is noticeably less racist.
@@antediluvianatheist5262 no, it isnt. It has just become socially advantageous to pretend that you arent.
@@nathanmorgan3647 Oh B.S. The average white American really has no ill feelings towards minorities
raccoon mountain is near chattanooga, it is so weird to hear something about a destination so close to home that is kind of morphed into purely a tourist destination. Last time i went there i was probably all of 13-14 and there are rock formations that hang from the roof of the cave (stalagmites or stalagtites, i dont recall) but i have always seen them looking like melted wax. This is one of the few places that i have been to that fueled my adventurous side. looking back on it most of the places that made me want to learn more were basically tourist spots or just readily available, crazy how my idea of these place changed so much with time
Stalactites hang from the ceiling. They hold on tight.
Stalacmites grow from the ground. Full of pride and moght.
@@Shadowdaddy87 Stalactitties, easily remembered for the hanging part.
It honestly makes me so sad that there's just so much history we are never taught in school. I would've love to have a class just on old texts and been able to discuss them. I think some of the charts and population statistics definitely should be included in modern teaching of history. It really brings so much into perspective.
Funfact: I still have my grandpa's book called "The Standard Dictionary of Facts" that's from, (last time i checked) 1960! like you said, it's always fun to look through old books and see what's become outdated
Your video has renewed my faith in humanity and is honestly the best I have watched in weeks. Love your candor and info/comedic delivery! Bravo, Sir! 😊
I think this might have been one of first, if not the first, video I watched. I've been cleaning a building all day and listening to your videos, and now I'm finally settling in to watch a video rather than just listening, and it's a nice change to see visuals for this one.
As I was going through my day with your videos, I found the rewatchablility of them delightful! A lot of the jokes still hit even when I know what happens, the bits of the stories I've forgotten are great to brush up on, the sound cues that signaled a chapter/topic change really helpful to prevent getting lost in the longer narratives, and the questions and comments that arose on my (re) watches of these still engage my brain in a way that makes the work of scrubbing showers less of a labor. You have an amazing way of connecting to audiences (I love the talk recording from VTech you posted, it was a really cool way to see you 'in-person', virtually) that comes across as both open and knowledgeable- you remind me of a younger version of my beloved, Mt. Dew-guzzling geology professor Andy. I think you two would get along, but you'd probably talk each other hoarse. Anyway, basically I really appreciate the effort that you and your team
Imagine what our history books will seem like to people in a 100 years
Even now the new ones are already aging like milk especially here in Texas. Our 7th grade kids have to take "history of Texas", and I assure you, about 80% of the "information" is poorly disguised propaganda. Like, a quick Google search away from debunking kind of propaganda.
All in all, good modern history books seem relatively future proof imo.
Unless we get an actual communist revolution and "wage slavery" becomes mainstream terminology.
Their already outdated now
Some of them are basically this book.
When I was in school in the 2010s we hadn't gotten new history books since the 80s, so probably pretty bad 😭
Coming back to this video after learning the history of Palestine really puts things into perspective, especially the section regarding the colonization of the North American continent and the displacement and genocide of the indigenous people.
As an Australian, the reason why I listen to you is because of the casual swearing and chill attitude. You sound like someone I'd go to the pub with
Milo absolutely passes the pub test
as someone from the south, we historically have indeed been required to be told Slavery was bad
As a northern transplant in the south, I've had someone literally tell me that their husband is a confederate war historian and that the civil war "had nothing to do with slavery." Meanwhile, the "reasons for cessation" from every state went on and on about how the North was taking away their slaves.
@@scipocelah6677 A historian who says "x has nothing to do with y" in any case has oversimplified something. History is complicated and everything affects everything
See, this book is a fine wine in the sense that it is no longer wine and is actually vinegar
This just came into my recommended a year after the fact lol, but I was shocked to hear the term "torrid zone" at 22:03! The term "torrid zone" is an idea from antiquity: a geographical concept that held that the tropical zone of the earth was effectively an impassable wasteland incapable of hosting life - which now that I'm thinking of it kind of makes sense when your primary geographic scope of reference tells you that every territory south of the Mediterranean ultimately transitions into a hot, arid desert. The term was still in use well into the 16th century, after the beginning of settler colonialism in the Americas, but I would have assumed that by the 1850s a massively improved understanding of global geography would have nipped it in the bud.
i'm relieved to see a large creator who isn't afraid to tell the worst of their audience to GTFO instead of trying to cater to them. i know there's a place for making educational content that reaches reactionaries, but you don't have to be that person.
too often, when creators i like try to host communities that are welcoming to reactionaries in an attempt to bridge the gap, they end up making communication in their comments/pages/servers unwelcoming to everyone else because it's just an endless deluge of bigotry and dogwhistles and "just asking questions" about fundamental rights. it's even worse when the creator's livelihood is dependent on a few high-paying members who happen to be reactionaries, because the problem members won't get booted no matter what they say, even when they're running off dozens of other community members with their long-winded rants about how certain marginalized groups are a drain on society or whatever.
i wish more creators understood that fostering well moderated communities is more valuable to growth and loyalty.
And that's how you get siloed. 🙄 It's funny because as a queer pro-2A hardliner, I always confuse the algorithm 😂
Your beliefs are motivated solely by social conformity, not by any underlying coherent philosophical principles.
@@connor3284 yes connor. not wanting to be subjected to yet another fascist's rant about how me and mine should be imprisoned or euthanized is so *conformist* of me. my desire to not be verbally assaulted with threats to my existence is totally not based out of any philosophical or ethical principles i hold. astute observation. /s
@@58209 Well, realpolitik friend/enemy power struggle and raw survival is one of the few logical ethical systems that can come from a secular/atheistic worldview, which you presumably hold, so I will concede that argument, but in your original post you made universalist claims like "fundamental rights" which you have no basis for unless you believe in a divinely inspired objective morality separate from human subjectivity.
@@connor3284 god i pitty the people who have to suffer your presence offline
14:46 *ben shapiro sadly leaves the chat to cry onto his pillow*
I'm from Argentina and we dictated that every newborn of a slave will be free in 1813 and abolish slavery in our constitution of 1853.
I write this before listen to what this book said about Argentina. How is that we don't have any "remarkable bays"?? Insane!
I clicked so friggin fast, this is a great christmas gift from you, Milo!
I come with good tidings and questionable books.
“If we’re gonna do this right, we’re gonna make a fire”
My sassy ass right back: “Oh yes we are”
It’s the little things that make your videos so great, like at 1:49 when the camera falls over and instead of doing another take you roll with it and turn walking over the camera into an awesome transition 👏
What's interesting is that australians seem to be all over the internet, either that or I have the same tastes as every one else in my country
We are legion.
We are one