How to Diagnose a BAD BMW E38 E39 ABS light anti-lock brake module pump problems
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How to Diagnose a BAD BMW E38E39 ABS light anti-lock brake module pump.in this video i will show where the abs pump is located and replacement tips for your e39 abs light problems
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Anybody asking where to get your ABS module repaired in December 2020, I had my module reoaired by a company in Van Nuys, Calif., called Module Repair Pro. They did a great job, it works perfectly and no more annoying ABS or BRAKE display messages on your cluster. They charged me $140.00, in February 2020 dollars. Since this video was created, the prices have gone up (obviously).
In closing, I highly recommend the company, Module Repair Pro, for your ABS module work.
Informative and no waffle . . . NICE WORK !!!
Love your videos man they help me a lot
Thank you for the tip!
Hi, I'm from South Africa. I had to have mine fixed two times in the 4 years I had my 2002 E39 525i. You would think a company like BMW would know not to put that module near the exhaust. I see on the other model BMWs like the E46 for example, they actually make the ABS module part of the brake master cylinder. The last time I had mine fixed was about 4 years ago just before I sold the car and it cost like R4000 or about $260.
Gr8 video. Nat.
Awesome video again..any links for company’s that rebuild? As our ABS pump won’t turn off! Even when the car is switched off at the ignition.
Could you do a video on how to properly bleed the brakes on an e39?
Thanks. From Sweden e53 3,0i
Thank you
Nathan!! Wouldn’t it be a good idea to wrap the ABS module in heat tape or equivalent?
Thank you for your response.
hello nat, I was wondering if I bought a new one on eBay, can I program it my self using 1.4 software? and can you instruct me how if it could be done that way?
Need help with 2008 BMW 328i E90. Is there an easy way to take off the module since mine is not faced like yours? Thanks.
the name of the video is how to diagnose a bad abs module... man, you didn't say a shit about how to diagnose
Andriy Selezen fuck you bitch
Andriy Selezen I’ll spit on your face
Andriy Selezen and slap you
BlUntszz why so butthurt? 🙄
What’s up Nathan ! I been watching your videos for a while now since the e39 with the blown hg. Anyways are you saying if this module is bad it’ll throw a p500 and ABs dsc ?
hey boss I have a 2003 BMW 745li and its kicking out all the abs park break lights an not letting the car show the rpm any help
Hi Nathan..
Can i use abs module of 2005 bmw x5 in my 2003 x5?
Hi Nath, i had change the Madule controller and my speedometer is working now, but the Abs and traction Control still on, i tried to clear theme buy using the Creator c310+ but no luck the codes is : transversal acceleration sensor/ pressure sensor line/ rotation rate sensor rate sensor line, any idea what they are and how to clear the codes?
I had my abs rebuilt and replaced all the sensors on a e38 740il when reinstalled it the lights went out but when I start to drive it the abs comes back on" I noticed on the driver side next to the frame that the insulation is exposed I'll make repairs to see if it's culprit " any suggestions . Thanks DANA.
Hi Nathan, would you recommend a rebuilder? I sent mine to autoecu and they fixed the speedometer problem with my module but still have no power coming out for the front wheel speed sensors. So still no ABS, DSC or cruise control. I’ve messaged them many times and if I get a response is vague but now no communication at all. Thanks for all your helpful videos!!
How would I know if it's the precharge pump vs abs module? When I brake, front wheels lock, feels like the rear are not engaging
Noticed on the "parts car" in the video is what appears to be an heatsheild below the abs. Is that custom or is that factory?
good info. thanks.
+frank aranda Thanks for watching hopefully this video will save people some $$$
nathan can i drive my e39 when i send my module to get rebuild
E39 M54 2002 were is the proportion valve or break pressure regulator
Is there any idea how to protect the abs pump from the heat ?
Is this the same for 2006 highlander hybrid 3.3l
Do you have a link to a reliable website or place to rebuild the module?
Could it be the booster or master cylinder check before?
why does the abs and traction light on my 2000 e 39 come on and sometimes turns off can you help
My friend a have to ask.... i have e39 520i 1996 .... asc isnt working ..... i put it on scan it says the module....the abs is working fine but asc isnt working .....any ideas ....i put it on scan to find out which sensor it is....but fault is found in abs module thanks
Im sure mine has gone bad. My breaks were locking up while driving! Whenever it locked up, the triangles would light up on my dash as well. I had disconnected the plug infront of the module and it never locked up again. Was about to purchase one on ebay but now i'm having second thoughts seeing how u said u cant just swap them out from car to car. Any pointers? Also do u know any good place that would rebuild the module at a reasonable price? Thanks
Hi guys, Nathan has been helping me out with an ABS issue on our 520i.
This ABS problem has driven us crazy and even with a scanner, we were unable
to positively point out the real hassle. In the end, it turned out to be this module
and we tried to replace it with a donor module and believe it or not, it worked.
So far so good. However for people in the States, your best bet is to do as Nathan
suggests and that is to get your own module serviced locally.
We are in New Zealand and the repair would've cost us a small fortune in overall
shipping, return shipping, insurance and service charges.
Hey, we got lucky, that's all I can say...
Hey Antonio, Im in New Zealand as well, Been quoted $395 to have the module repaired, What did you pay for a donor module to try solve it that way?
How do I fix mine if the brake fluid is leaking by the plastic caps on the hydraulic rear portion of the pump itself ? I can’t find anyone who rebuilds that back portion. Have you ever resealed one of these yourself Nathan?
Will this cause the transmission to go into limp mode ?
thanks for sharing .... great video ..... lord bless you ..
My abs module stays on all the time and will not turn off do I have to replace it only time it turns off is if I disconnect the battery
I have a e38 01 & I got a abs light before it $top going in gear what going on?
Nate I have a 01 530i and it's pretty clean. can you make a short vid on how it could be just a potential wheel sensor as apposed to replacing the entire abs under the hood? my orange brake light and DSC are on
Swap the front sensors amd clean the hub. If still bad its the module.
How, exactly, does one "make sure the ABS module is bad before you replace it?" What are the testing procedures to confirm the module is in need of replacement. One of the wheel speed sensors ("pulse generators" as BMW calls them) can also throw the generic code P0500 and ABS dash warning light. Thanks for all your excellent videos Nathan. Looking forward to your reply.
The first thing to do is get a Bi- directional Scan tool. You need to pull the codes from the specific module in question. In your case- the ABS Module. Then go from there. The codes only give you a starting point- they are not absolute. It could be the following: Bad Precharge Pump- Bad ABS Pump- Bad Wheel Speed Sensors- or Bad ABS Module.
Better off just sending it out....went thru 4 rebuilt units and we couldnt get the old codes out......sent it out to a rebuild place, good as new.
Hi thanks for your video. if I replace from Ebay or amazon. do I still need to reprogram it?
YES, the controller part get paired with the car for life. you either need to get a new one and get it paired or replace your controller module with the used one and basically replace just the pump, that should work as well.
Typically in the E65 the ABS Control Module goes bad and has to be sent out to be repaired. It can happen in with the E38/E39 car but not as common. Usually one of the wheel speed sensor wire deteriorate and has to be replaced but it wont throw a CEL code you can pull with a universal code reader. You would get a triangle (traction control) and ABS amber light come on in this case. If the brake light also comes on also then more than likely the ABS module is at fault. I have owned and or repaired E21, E23, E28, E30, E32, E34, E36, E38, E39, and E65 cars.
DaytonCarCare would an abs fault cause a lock up mode with the transmission?
@@larryjohnson8168 I have been told it sends the transmission into limp mode. Where by, you'd have to switch off the car, wait a minute, then start the car again and that should take it off limp mode. It does that as a bmw safety function. Have you been able to confirm and sort it out?
@@mauricesthomas2399 the abs acts like there is a sensor out, i have replaced the front bearing hubs with AM auto ones, you think that could be it? i have a scanner and it says "long term scatter". Abs and brake light come on everytime i drive it.
@@larryjohnson8168 I don't think changing the hubs should cause that. Have you cleaned the abs sensors, inspected the wires or looked into the box which holds the connector?.
@@mauricesthomas2399 yes, I did it for all 4.
Thanks for all the info. My E39 caught fire right near the abs module. Its kinda melted. Can i get one off another car and have it rebuilt to my vin????
No there coded to the vin# where it came outta they rebuild the components
ok ..thanks
i had the same problem on my e39 but it gave me the transmission malfunction . on my e60 only gives me abs and the brake pedal its very hard sometimes..
you will need a scanner to see what is going on, i use the $40 creator c310 off ebay, it will do anything you need as far as abs srs and trans codes along with all engine and chassis codes and functions
The 2 rubber dsc brake hoses (about 3 inches long) are leaking that are in between the hard lines . Right next to windshield washer reservoir and valve cover. Its about 12 inches behind dsc unit. Can I just unscrew the rubber hoses and reinstall new lines? Will all the brake fluid be pushed out or just a little. Do I need to bleed the brakes after this. Scary to drive the pedal goes to the floor, slowly stops. I want to replace rubber hoses before moving the car. Part # 34321162616 and #34321162612. Thanks.
hello and thank you for your time my name is donte I have a e 38 BMW 2001 740il and I cant get my car alarm to stop sounding while I drive sum times is it something I can do to refuse it if so what?
There is a sensor on the hood that goes bad. I had that happen to me on my 99 740il, mine was under warranty, at the time. It is very irritating but that was the fix.
Nathan, hope you can help with even a single word answer. You mention that one cannot swap the ABS module around from car to car due to the VIN specific coding. Is that true of the pump side of it as well? Is there any electronic component to the pump, in other words? If one replaces a defective ABS pump on an e39 with a good used one from another car, while retaining the original ABS module, is there going to be a compatibility issue?
Francis Powell that should work
I have a 98 E38 and my traction control light just came on but I have no CEL. My ELM 327 mini and torque pro find no faults. My brake fluid light is on but I'm sure that's because the brake sensor because it's time for brakes. Any suggestions
you have to read abs codes from the round port under the hood, the adapter is $5 off ebay, I would buy the creator c310 and that will read everything , they are around $40
Any advice on diagnosing if the wheel speed sensor or ABS module is bad on my 98 740iL? I have replaced all 4 wheel speed sensors in the last 3 years but the DSC and ABS lights came back on. The ABS control module on my car is behind the glovebox.
Is there any way of testing or fixing the circuit board? Can the car run without the ABS module if I have it rebuilt?
+Timothy Holmes How i tell is when you scan the abs system and it shows 4 or 5 different codes for different things, or it will say abs pump failure, or cannot connect with the abs module, the car will run and drive without the module.
+Nathan's DIY Garage Thank you for your quick reply!
Can you recommend a website for the rebuild of the abs
A company on eBay was doing it for $100
Nathan's BMW Workshop do you know the name of it by any chance?
Where can I find a place to rebuild my abs module?
companies on ebay do it for $99
Nathan's DIY Garage do you have any names?
Sorry for the 4 year delay but I had my module reoaired by a company in Van Nuys, Calif., called Module Repair Pro. They did a great job, works perfectly and no more ABS or BRAKE display messages on your cluster. They charged me $140.00 . Since this video was created, the prices have gone up (obviously).
I highly recommend Module Repair Pro for your ABS module work.
HOW TO CHECK FROM RING TO SENSOR TO MODULE??piece by piece????
I used autel 708 Computer to reset the car
My 1998 523i Euro specs is not showing the ABS or ASC lights on instrument cluster, could a bad module cause this or is it a cluster problem? Also my service engine light is not on. I scanned the cluster and get code "2B,02,00,BE no found" what does this codes mean? Usually the problem is getting rid of lights, my case is vice versa. Thank you.
Is the red dot on infront of the milage? These cars are common to get the cluster swapped since alot of them have failing led's
+Nathan's DIY Garage No, theres no dot present. I do heard that back in time people some how damaged or disable the warning lights to pass inspection. I will try another cluster and see what happens. Thanks.
+Nathan's DIY Garage I replaced the cluster and had it programmed with VIN and actual mileage, now ABS light and ASC are lit, replaced the ABS pump as well but lights still on. Speed sensors are good. Im getting code 40 "Long term scatter" on my scanner. Do you know what that means? Could a bad MAF cause this? Thank you.
have you done a cbs reset?
+Nathan's DIY Garage I did try today, but I think scanner needs update, it gave me an error message telling feature was not available. I will update and try again. Thanks.
X5 video up yet ?
The power wire connect to the module is burnt up
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How to???
Yes
+rami sami i will have to try that
Nathan did you ever give this CBS reset a go to validate?
I had an issue with my traction control on my 540I and it turned out to be this module. There is a company called ASI and they repair these modules for $90 you just take yours off and send it in. And you can drive your car if you have to without the module installed.
i have a 1998 bmw 528i and my problem is that the abs light is on i scan it and it was a rear abs sensor and the abs valve relay .. i replace all 4 sensor two times and the abs relay 3 times and the light still there and my car wont go more then 50mpg i was thinking it was module so i replace it but the problem still there is there anything else i can try
+Joshua Acevedo dos the abs come on at 50mph or is the trans stuck in 1 gear?
+Nathan's DIY Garage. is stuck on 3 gear
the abs lights its always on.
if you reset the trans safe mode light does it shift correctly?the not going over 50mph is a trans problem not a abs problem
for the tranny. it got the speed sensor code. . right now the only thing it show in the scanner for the abs is relay but have put 3 different relay but still nothing. and my odometer doesn't work to
Doesn't need to program Just pick the right number
+rami sami I have already been down that road and that does not work the car will not reconize it
Can this cause my car into trans safe mode
My 2000 e38 728i has done exactly the same. Module rebuilt. All 4 abs sensors replaced. Still got the trifecta of warning lights plus the trans fail safe warning. I assume another module (DME) is damaged?
Did you fix?
is that the same for a e60??
E60 does not have this problem usually
Will thi$ cau$e the car not to move i to gear when you $hift
I am BMW mechanic and I just replace buy the number and reset the car and go from there
+rami sami So you are saying that a CBS reset will let the car see it?
@@NathansBMWWorkshop what is a CBS reset
All E39 have the same ABS module ant they are interchangeble, there is no need to reprograme it.
+zizovrag They are mostly the same, some have different part numbers, if you switch the module from a different car your car will NOT recognize it.
+Nathan's DIY Garage I have been told that ASC units are the same for all E39, they have 001 number at the end and they can be changed with no problems, DSC units have to be reprogramed and they have 002 number at the end and I think there is more than one type of them. I have a problem with my E39 525iA, ABS, ASC and brakes lights are on despite changing front ABS sensor that was shown as bad. I will try to fix, or my friend that knows what electricity is will try to fix conections in the unit. If we make it I can report. Sorry for a bit broken english :)
I have just went through this and i assure you they are not interchangeable even with the same part number
Hey .. just saw your post , I too have problem with my 2000 E39 535i however what happens is the brakes actually apply themselves to the point where the car will no longer move !! thankfully it happens gradually and allows me to get off the road ... its happened a couple times now .. first time it was fine after a half hr .. second after a few days ... in all the posts I've read , it seems no one has experienced the system just randomly deciding to pull the reins ... any thoughts ?
Who in the world!!! A module right next to the exhaust manifold..come on..
nope, there is a way ot replace it by another equal, without reprogram, just be sure is same tham yours, proved!!!!
This did not state in any way how to “diagnose if it’s bad” :/ you just stated if* it’s bad. … anyone want to fill this gap?