the free version of inner pitch by auburn sounds is a really good replacement for the gojira wow pedal and i find it already has a ton of artifactiness without the ringmod and chorus
Dude, I can really tell your mental health and confidence is doing good lately. Your demeaner is lively and you're smiling more. I'm really happy for you.
Between figuring out the ring mod trick and learning to add chorus for thickness on the octave shrieks, this video is like my holy grail for that nasty, chonky thall tone that I want for my guitar sections. The specificity of the whole tutorial is invaluable. Thank you!
Bro… last time i checked this channel you werent as good as this. Thats some Insaneeee improovement. Defenetly an Inspiration for me to work on my audio
I have come up with a very similar stack when trying to recreate the noise pedal that was released in Collab with alpha wolf a couple months ago. Great content! Awesome tutorial
This is awesome man. I love the gojira plugin. The mixwave spirit box ampsim is another awesome one. I love mixwave plugins. Their drum kits are phenomenal.
The Efektor Whammo plugin may be a good alternative for fairly clean pitches and not very artifact sounding unlike most whammy plugins, nevermind a ring mod we all love to use for noises we make. It is an inexpensive plugin you can get. I never knew about thall and deathcore bands using ring mods until I noticed how its done recently. Nevertheless, great demonstration and very informative!
I tried that one and it had a huge latency. Gojira works close to the real pedal, with a very slight latency. For mixing, as I said in another comment, one can use ReaPitch.
@@iamjacktaylor Yep, for live monitoring both the transpone feature in X plugins and whammy are superior to anything I tried! I set my buffer to 32 or 64 (48 khz) and it goes pretty much alright. Not perfect, but very playable. The final touch can be done in the post production phase anyway. To mention other options, there's also this Helix suite which is extremely clunky and slow, but there are many pitch-shifter options, they are good too for post production.
Awesome tutorial man. I feel like I’m being taught by a young Pedro Pascal 😅 you look and sound so similar! If pedro was into producing earth crushing metal 😂
So you are going distorted processed guitar tone into the ring mod first, then gojira wow then chorus in series right; and Automating them as needed? Also what are you doing at the fifth segment of the guitar track. Is that just a weird sounding open note? Its not a chug. Sounds super cool.
Both definitely have their uses though I think I prefer Gojira for the thall sound over the distant plugin. Though the cleans and atmosphere the distant amp can do are pretty sick, you can replicate it just as well with Gojira!
Download the demo for Hypertune by Polychrome DSP, it sounds really clean even when octave dropping from double drop C. I haven't tried to use it for screeches yet, but I'd be interested in hearing an opinion from an experienced metal musician like yourself.
I haven't tried that plugin quite yet, though I will say for the screeches they sound best when they aren't clean. If they're too clean they tend to pop out too much and can be very fatiguing to listen to. It's obviously subjective, but that's my take
For some reason, even though I played the same notes to test if it was me playing to high or something, it sounds like dog shit, I'm not sure why it's not working properly, maybe it's because I'm using FL Studio but I'm not sure what is happening
@@andallicansayis absolutely. Put it before (!) your amp sim, set the algorithm to Elastique 3.3.3 Pro, change the parameter below to either Preserve Formants (Most Pitches) or (High Pitches). Compared to Gojira or real whammy or whatever, the sound has noticeably less artifacts. Which is something one might want to make chords more readable, as the artifacts while sound cool in many cases, may also be detrimental.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the khs ring mod to sound anything like in this video, just makes a hiss and no fun squeals, I'm heartbroken!
@ Unfortunately not, I am going pitch into ring mod, then into chorus, boost, amp sim and cab. It may just be inherent to how picky ring mods are to what signal they are fed!
I would love to shoot you an email asking some questions about this and just your techniques in general, is there anywhere i can ask these questions personally? Maybe giving you some ideas for videos as well!
Genius! You found the right ingredients and the amount for them! I tried it myself and I found adding a OTT, fresh air and black box saturation (or any saturation with an "air" know I guess) after the chain you crafted enhance the nastiness of the artifacts. In case, you want to give it a try 🩷
I'm using the tone I put together here: ua-cam.com/video/P8BB4zLVHlw/v-deo.html While I used podfarm (literal cheat code by the way) you can get very similar results with a 5150 sim
the free version of inner pitch by auburn sounds is a really good replacement for the gojira wow pedal and i find it already has a ton of artifactiness without the ringmod and chorus
The other thall God has spoken. Will take note of that, thanks for sharing your wisdom 🙏
@@mvrkosvudade5202 please don't call me a thall god
@@_rekak is there latency can i use it live?
@@Durkhead yeah there is a small amount of latency but i think it would be fine when using it live, go test it out
Been using that a lot lately. It's really good. Probably the best free pitch shifter imo
Your mixes sounded absolutely insane! Should definitely do a tutorial on how you mix if you haven’t
I have a small series dedicated to it as well as other videos showing how I do what I do! And thank you very kindly man!
the riff is indeed miraring
Dude, I can really tell your mental health and confidence is doing good lately. Your demeaner is lively and you're smiling more. I'm really happy for you.
This was honestly such a nice comment to read man.. Thank you very much 🙏
Killer tutorial man!
Between figuring out the ring mod trick and learning to add chorus for thickness on the octave shrieks, this video is like my holy grail for that nasty, chonky thall tone that I want for my guitar sections. The specificity of the whole tutorial is invaluable. Thank you!
You’re welcome! That’s what it’s all about! 😎
Bro… last time i checked this channel you werent as good as this. Thats some Insaneeee improovement. Defenetly an Inspiration for me to work on my audio
Line 6 helix native has a good pitch shifter and ring mod along with everything else that you need
Great tutorial my dude, I loved it! I guess my sound for the next demo will be taken from this video :)
This is fuggin cool!
I was literally trying to figure out how to do this and then this was the first video I see on UA-cam, godsend thank you
Sick🔥 I'm going to try this tomorrow ❤
Have you tried using a pitch shifter up half a semitone blended in 50%? Gives some crazy noise with the fatso pedal added
We need more great tutorial like this ! 🔥
You nailed it bro 🔥🔥🔥
Been wondering what i was doing wrong and i think you've just helped me crack it! thanks dude :D
Insane tutorials man, I love how thick your mixes sound. Stay awesome!
I appreciate the kind words man! 😎
@@BlakeLW Keep it up!
I have come up with a very similar stack when trying to recreate the noise pedal that was released in Collab with alpha wolf a couple months ago.
Great content! Awesome tutorial
Thank you good sir😤 Gonna go annoy the band and drop these everywhere in the track 🤘🏻
Unless I missed it in the video may I suggest specifying where u put each effect In the chain as it makes a huge difference !
Banger for sure man, I still wanna know how HLB does their guitar bends or pitch bends shits wild
For the stuff that isn't automated, they literally bend the strings
Sick tutorial, thanks for doing this!
Veery good. Gonna try this
Sounds sick; would really love to hear the guitar on its own as you add each effect as well.
Yeah I had to re record this video a few times so it slipped my mind. I'll be better about it moving forward!
This is awesome man. I love the gojira plugin. The mixwave spirit box ampsim is another awesome one. I love mixwave plugins. Their drum kits are phenomenal.
Damn your mix is good
awesome video! super helpful! perhaps in future videos like these you can solo the guitar in the mix?
Yeah I had to re record this video a few times so it slipped my mind. I'll be better about it moving forward!
The Efektor Whammo plugin may be a good alternative for fairly clean pitches and not very artifact sounding unlike most whammy plugins, nevermind a ring mod we all love to use for noises we make. It is an inexpensive plugin you can get. I never knew about thall and deathcore bands using ring mods until I noticed how its done recently. Nevertheless, great demonstration and very informative!
I tried that one and it had a huge latency. Gojira works close to the real pedal, with a very slight latency. For mixing, as I said in another comment, one can use ReaPitch.
@ I see; I just thought I’d mention the plugin. However, I agree with you on the Gojira whammy. It is my most ever used whammy emulator :)
@@iamjacktaylor Yep, for live monitoring both the transpone feature in X plugins and whammy are superior to anything I tried! I set my buffer to 32 or 64 (48 khz) and it goes pretty much alright. Not perfect, but very playable. The final touch can be done in the post production phase anyway.
To mention other options, there's also this Helix suite which is extremely clunky and slow, but there are many pitch-shifter options, they are good too for post production.
Let's goooo!🔥🔥
Uses Reaper, Does thall, holy crap i found thall jesus
I'm but a servant 🙏
Sick!
banger!
Awesome tutorial man. I feel like I’m being taught by a young Pedro Pascal 😅 you look and sound so similar!
If pedro was into producing earth crushing metal 😂
I’ll have to get a spear to decorate my background now lmao thank you man 🙏
YEET. 🔥🦖🤘
So you are going distorted processed guitar tone into the ring mod first, then gojira wow then chorus in series right; and Automating them as needed?
Also what are you doing at the fifth segment of the guitar track. Is that just a weird sounding open note? Its not a chug. Sounds super cool.
would've been also great to hear just the isolated guitar stem. Good video tho, thanks!
So its basically like using a dt whammy like pantera?
Yes, Vildhjarta also use it
notifications squad make some noiseeee
THALL
Gojira x or Distant plugin for thall? Im debating the 2 lol
Both definitely have their uses though I think I prefer Gojira for the thall sound over the distant plugin. Though the cleans and atmosphere the distant amp can do are pretty sick, you can replicate it just as well with Gojira!
This was super helpful. I had an idea that couldn't use any other sound than this. Appreciate the unlock 🫡
So do you put the Whammy, Ring Mod and Chorus before or after your AmpSim?
All the effects I had before the amp sim, sorry I should have clarified!
i would just add a track with a frequency shift
Download the demo for Hypertune by Polychrome DSP, it sounds really clean even when octave dropping from double drop C. I haven't tried to use it for screeches yet, but I'd be interested in hearing an opinion from an experienced metal musician like yourself.
I haven't tried that plugin quite yet, though I will say for the screeches they sound best when they aren't clean. If they're too clean they tend to pop out too much and can be very fatiguing to listen to. It's obviously subjective, but that's my take
For some reason, even though I played the same notes to test if it was me playing to high or something, it sounds like dog shit, I'm not sure why it's not working properly, maybe it's because I'm using FL Studio but I'm not sure what is happening
If anyone is having this problem, I got triggered by the name "Guitar Bus" and I used those plugins in my Guitar Bus instead of my DI Bus, my bad!!
Gojira's pedal is nice, low latency, decent sound, but when mixing, you can use ReaPitch. It sounds noticeably better.
is it? which settings do you use?
@@andallicansayis absolutely. Put it before (!) your amp sim, set the algorithm to Elastique 3.3.3 Pro, change the parameter below to either Preserve Formants (Most Pitches) or (High Pitches). Compared to Gojira or real whammy or whatever, the sound has noticeably less artifacts. Which is something one might want to make chords more readable, as the artifacts while sound cool in many cases, may also be detrimental.
I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the khs ring mod to sound anything like in this video, just makes a hiss and no fun squeals, I'm heartbroken!
Are you by chance putting the ringmod after the amp sim?
@ Unfortunately not, I am going pitch into ring mod, then into chorus, boost, amp sim and cab. It may just be inherent to how picky ring mods are to what signal they are fed!
I would love to shoot you an email asking some questions about this and just your techniques in general, is there anywhere i can ask these questions personally? Maybe giving you some ideas for videos as well!
Yeah of course! While I don't think UA-cam would allow me to put emails in comments, you can find me on instagram or view my email on my page directly
@ i sent you a dm
Genius! You found the right ingredients and the amount for them!
I tried it myself and I found adding a OTT, fresh air and black box saturation (or any saturation with an "air" know I guess) after the chain you crafted enhance the nastiness of the artifacts. In case, you want to give it a try 🩷
Honestly I am more curious about how you made that TONE
I'm using the tone I put together here:
ua-cam.com/video/P8BB4zLVHlw/v-deo.html
While I used podfarm (literal cheat code by the way) you can get very similar results with a 5150 sim
we're so back
Pod farm bender 🤌🏻
@2:45
Me: Damn, solid riff. Sounds pretty sick as is.
Blake: Yeah, so this is probably the lamest riff in existence.
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The curse of being too picky 😅