The secret BIG THALL doesn't want you to know | Thick Riff Thursday, Ep 45

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  • @kadensabourin2571
    @kadensabourin2571 10 місяців тому +382

    Nick BroomTHALL

  • @Blacklight_Music
    @Blacklight_Music 10 місяців тому +300

    If you’d told me in 2008 that Vildhjarta would be not only relevant, but very influential 15 years later, I’d have thought you were nuts.

    • @danieldavidson5447
      @danieldavidson5447 10 місяців тому +8

      Their new stuff has got me so hyped!!!

    • @honigdachs.
      @honigdachs. 10 місяців тому +19

      I don't know a single person in the scene who knows them, let alone is influenced by them. I think they're in this "internet nerd metal" bubble that exists, but nobody outside of it cares about.

    • @danieldavidson5447
      @danieldavidson5447 10 місяців тому +60

      @@honigdachs. Lame comment

    • @mileshurst9823
      @mileshurst9823 10 місяців тому

      i think its accurate, although unfortunate @@danieldavidson5447

    • @kylanmcnichols6525
      @kylanmcnichols6525 10 місяців тому +6

      They are the only band that each new single/album is better than the last. Other than Stoort, which Calle is also in.

  • @cylershaw7701
    @cylershaw7701 10 місяців тому +34

    You NEED to turn this into a full song! I absolutely love it!

  • @dilbophagginz
    @dilbophagginz 10 місяців тому +23

    That Saturn trick with the DI was one of the best I've seen yet. Truly the hot sauce of mixing plugins

  • @KarateGandalf.
    @KarateGandalf. 10 місяців тому +78

    I'm a simple man, I see the thall, I must have the thall

    • @lambgoat2421
      @lambgoat2421 9 місяців тому

      mfw I dont know what thall is

  • @Reapertips
    @Reapertips 10 місяців тому +16

    Thank you for these videos, Nick! Helps me so muuuch when I feel uninspired and lost. You are awesome

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      Thanks so much, man! I appreciate that!

    • @divinemental
      @divinemental 2 місяці тому

      Love when real recognize real! Would be so fired up to see you two collab.

  • @AZALEA_HG
    @AZALEA_HG 10 місяців тому +3

    The sample thing is SO REAL LMAO I’ll be making the song and be like “wait this annoying fridge actually goes so hard”

  • @kelly.householder
    @kelly.householder 10 місяців тому +30

    that trick with Saturn on the DI is sick.. I love how much clarity of that pick attack it's getting for sure. you cracked me up with sample of the room next door.

  • @bolillo5013
    @bolillo5013 10 місяців тому +15

    The Elden Ring reference was amazing. I CANNOT wait for the DLC.

  • @MOMetalProductions
    @MOMetalProductions 10 місяців тому +11

    Man, that saturn before the amp made a HUGE difference! Also: thall.

  • @Rowanexen
    @Rowanexen 10 місяців тому +96

    I showed a non-metalhead friend I have a thall song. Presumably due to the bends, they called it "weewoo music." That stuck with me 😂

    • @normannguitar
      @normannguitar 10 місяців тому +7

      perfect description

    • @xRamZx
      @xRamZx 10 місяців тому +6

      Wife calls erra/invent animate weedoleedee bands

    • @BrofUJu
      @BrofUJu 9 місяців тому +5

      When I was younger, before djent was a word, my buddy and I always called it the "gonk" and still do, lol. Like Meshuggah, early Architects, it still just sounds like a gonk to me

    • @GIANTENEMYB1RD
      @GIANTENEMYB1RD 7 місяців тому +1

      Back in the Colony/Clayman days I heard someone call In Flames "christmas metal" and it has stuck with me since.

    • @williamvancourt528
      @williamvancourt528 4 місяці тому

      In flames best era though​@@GIANTENEMYB1RD

  • @fwlipem
    @fwlipem 10 місяців тому +4

    it must come to life as a full track. i can easily imagine guys like Alessandro Zilio ripping a sick guest solo over this.
    amazing, Nick.

  • @o.phillips2522
    @o.phillips2522 10 місяців тому +14

    The whammy has a really aggressive high cut filter to mask the digital artifacts it introduces

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому +5

      Oh interesting! That makes sense. I definitely want to look into it a little more just to know exactly what it does. Still my fav pedal tho 🧡

  • @buricaliskan
    @buricaliskan 10 місяців тому +1

    Nick, these videos are unbelievably inspiring!! Without a doubt, my favorite weekly youtube series 😀
    Cheers

  • @binzianer
    @binzianer Місяць тому

    sounds so clean! awesome production!

  • @PROGRESORAS
    @PROGRESORAS Місяць тому

    You make it look so easy haha. Awesome riff man!

  • @emilblvck5580
    @emilblvck5580 10 місяців тому +61

    The Elden Ring edit as introduction to the video was clean AF

    • @shane_wallace
      @shane_wallace 10 місяців тому +2

      I laughed out loud lmfaooo

  • @alexbing1391
    @alexbing1391 10 місяців тому +4

    dude I hope your channel blows up. youre really talented!

  • @diabolicwaste
    @diabolicwaste 10 місяців тому

    so thall sick riff dude

  • @ctwilson25
    @ctwilson25 10 місяців тому +14

    Thall 🤘

  • @vinnilopiccolo9333
    @vinnilopiccolo9333 6 місяців тому

    Your workflow and process is awesome. Thank you for making these!! Thall Thursday 🤘🏼

  • @alvarg
    @alvarg 10 місяців тому +1

    you don't have enough subs my dude. this is some professional level quality you are making.

  • @kevinthompsonmusic1435
    @kevinthompsonmusic1435 10 місяців тому

    This was so fucking great to watch, man you’ve got such a talent. The next door drill section and automating it into an intro piece was so good lmao. Bravo man

  • @quocbinh6674
    @quocbinh6674 5 місяців тому

    SAMPLE OUT OF NO WHERE IS TOP TIER BLESSINGGGGGGGG

  • @Morrizxn
    @Morrizxn 10 місяців тому +1

    by far the best episode!! in my opinion, just because its completely my music taste. keep going

  • @MidwestSadbois
    @MidwestSadbois 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely need a full version of this one

  • @SavoryShredZ
    @SavoryShredZ 3 місяці тому

    This is sick! Thanks for sharing!

  • @lucascrain035
    @lucascrain035 10 місяців тому +9

    saturn trick is goated with the sauce, thank you for the knowledge 🙏

    • @eliteextremophile8895
      @eliteextremophile8895 10 місяців тому +2

      I've been using Saturn and later on Saturn 2 for years pretty much every time I wanted to shape the tone. Not just guitar or bass tone, literally every tone. Vocals, drums, woodwind etc. etc. It's my most used plugin ever.

  • @m_butlermusic
    @m_butlermusic 3 місяці тому

    Yes! Love it dude, sounds great!!

  • @pattysmusic524
    @pattysmusic524 10 місяців тому +1

    This was a fun one! I like how creative this episode got. Using a lot of different elements. The end product kind of made me think of Termina. Sounds sick!

  • @mattkiser3997
    @mattkiser3997 10 місяців тому

    I love watching you make riffs. Wish I could learn.

  • @rossward7801
    @rossward7801 10 місяців тому

    You absolutely nailed the style, here.

  • @Danzan_YT
    @Danzan_YT 4 місяці тому

    You just gained a new subscriber. Loved it man!!

  • @twicebetrayed5650
    @twicebetrayed5650 10 місяців тому

    Watching you work is so incredible lol the creativity is super admirable and on top of it you’re really skilled!

  • @numbersabcdefg
    @numbersabcdefg 10 місяців тому

    that intro melody from yesterday that you started with also sounds very ALLUVIAL

  • @CarlMcCann2214
    @CarlMcCann2214 10 місяців тому

    That video was very eye opening for me. Gr8 job dude.
    THALL

  • @LimitlessPotential12
    @LimitlessPotential12 10 місяців тому

    You can`t help but just respect Thall...Great job man

  • @shoyei
    @shoyei 10 місяців тому +7

    Bro the Elden Ring item overlay had me dying. 😂
    Subscribed.

  • @PeterCleff
    @PeterCleff 10 місяців тому

    Some of the heaviest riffage I've heard in a good long while. Solid!

  • @quandaledingle4659
    @quandaledingle4659 10 місяців тому +4

    Learned so much on this one video.
    1. Never knew they reversed one guitar for that ambient sound. Immediately going to incorporate that.
    2. That triplet scratch that you did. Never knew you could do that.
    3. I’m new to logic and never was able to figure out how to do takes. So I always recorded and then immediately deleted to redo the take which takes for ever.
    4. Definitely going to get Saturn now.
    5. I never thought about using the keyboard to input the bass notes. My dumbass always put it in using the mouse for each individual note. Which also takes ages.
    Thank you. I’ll be referring to this video for a while. Instant sub.

  • @SvenBout
    @SvenBout 10 місяців тому

    Need a full version of this on spotify

  • @divinemental
    @divinemental 2 місяці тому

    What could be happening with your whammy is that it is providing a buffer to your signal which adds clarity to the DI. I saw a video years back about doing this with any old Boss pedal and the results imo are worth having even just a boss tuner in line before you hit the preamp.

  • @BrendonKPadjasek
    @BrendonKPadjasek 10 місяців тому +1

    I have the same issue with the Whammy every time I use it as well. That Saturn trick was cool, I might steal it haha. Cool stuff man, keep it up!

    • @MarkDatines
      @MarkDatines 10 місяців тому +1

      WH4 isn’t true bypass. Try WH5 or DT

    • @BrendonKPadjasek
      @BrendonKPadjasek 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MarkDatines makes sense. Thanks for the tip!

    • @MarkDatines
      @MarkDatines 10 місяців тому

      @@BrendonKPadjasek or you can turn your WH4 true bypass easily. Lot of DIY on web. Me I used the EHX killswitch (named chill switch now) to loop my WH4 in a true bypass way.

  • @leihnusz2455
    @leihnusz2455 10 місяців тому +4

    Thall Thursday didn't disappoint! Awesome stuff Nick! Could you imagine doing a Video on your processing some day? Especially on the guitar bus and the master bus chain. I can't get my Archetype Nolly to sound anything as close to that good to be honest.

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому +7

      Definitely! I have a Tutorial Tuesday video in mind for that.

    • @leihnusz2455
      @leihnusz2455 10 місяців тому

      @@nickbroomhallmusic Really looking forward to it! Have a nice day and greetings from Hamburg, Germany! \m/

    • @TempleGuitars
      @TempleGuitars 10 місяців тому

      I am pumped for this.@@nickbroomhallmusic

  • @JoshuaMRichard
    @JoshuaMRichard 10 місяців тому +1

    Damn son, that riff was thick

  • @Karenagy
    @Karenagy 10 місяців тому +5

    Dude... THALL + Elden Ring + Power Drill!! is it possible to not be PERFECT??

  • @kfiotek2384
    @kfiotek2384 10 місяців тому +5

    Nick's last breath

  • @JUNK_ZONE
    @JUNK_ZONE 10 місяців тому

    Love what you do, man. Also, it seems I've run into the same problem with my Whammy so, thanks for that.

  • @bradeversole4081
    @bradeversole4081 10 місяців тому

    I love to see phenomenal stuff coming out of just a regular looking dude. You’re the musical equivalent of a sleeper car.

  • @nathancorrao8570
    @nathancorrao8570 10 місяців тому

    For drop pedals, I use the virtual Jeff pro and with the buffer bypass, and it works amazingly well! You should give it a look.

  • @Genociv
    @Genociv 10 місяців тому +1

    These Milton cleans sound fuckin epic dude. I'm not that into Thall but that sounded great.
    Keep up the amazing work!

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому +1

      Thanks so much! I had no idea this specific sound of clean guitars had a name until now 😂

    • @Genociv
      @Genociv 10 місяців тому

      @@nickbroomhallmusic John Browne did a video about these clean sounds from early Fellsilent, Monuments and stuff. They used to dial these on Pod XT Live. Great stuff, check it out!

  • @malcolmrff
    @malcolmrff 10 місяців тому

    That was sick. I’m gonna have to check out the saturn plugin.

  • @smeemusic
    @smeemusic 10 місяців тому

    First time seeing the channel. I’m recognizing your whammy issue here. I went through this and found a rock solid solution. I ended up trying the electro harmonix pitchfork + with my mission engineering expression pedal. Problem 100% solved. The pitchfork + isn’t quite as plug and play friendly as the whammy but once you get it setup you’ll be blown away. I now wonder why everyone raves about the whammy when the pitchfork does it so much better. I found the whammy having a sort of ripping sound sometimes. The pitchfork is way smoother sounding. Worth checking out

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому +1

      Honestly I though of just doing it all digitally with Archetype Gojira 🤷‍♂️ I’m still happy with the Whammy though, doesn’t bother me too much. I never have it engaged unless I’m actively using it.

  • @metalband
    @metalband 3 місяці тому

    Learned so much, thanks for being visible on youtube

  • @Groteploscky
    @Groteploscky 10 місяців тому

    Incredible! ♥

  • @SamBrockmann
    @SamBrockmann 10 місяців тому +5

    Don't let Big Thall win!

  • @aangovan
    @aangovan 10 місяців тому

    Saturn is powerful, thank man, great idea!

  • @justevan877
    @justevan877 10 місяців тому

    been messing with that pre amp multi band saturation for a few months now and it's really just the best thing ever, it's basically letting you make a custom overdrive pedal

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      100%, I kinda want FabFilter to turn Saturn into a guitar pedal

  • @matenorth
    @matenorth 10 місяців тому

    I've been messing with pre distortion di treatment for a long time (mostly weird eq curves) but never though of saturation before. This is great.

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      EQ before the amp is also nice. I'm kinda getting the same effect with Saturn but with Saturn I can also saturate

  • @j6shy
    @j6shy 10 місяців тому

    this is my favorite one so far

  • @thevishyfishy
    @thevishyfishy 10 місяців тому

    I've been making thall style stuff for the last couple years, its so fun

  • @jasonkadyk
    @jasonkadyk 10 місяців тому

    Damn bro lol, that was sick. Love the drill edit 😅

  • @johnmcintyre2123
    @johnmcintyre2123 10 місяців тому

    First time finding your channel. Sounds awesome. You got the sauce. Subscribed.

  • @itspravus
    @itspravus 10 місяців тому +1

    As if i wasn't already using Saturn on almost every track on my projects 😂
    Man i love Fabfilter Saturn so much! Thanks for the tip man!

  • @zoltanfonagy339
    @zoltanfonagy339 10 місяців тому

    This was a crazy good episode

  • @chuckfranco8889
    @chuckfranco8889 10 місяців тому

    brother these are usually fantastic but this one is FUCKING SICK

  • @nicholay_mix
    @nicholay_mix 10 місяців тому

    I've been doing almost the same thing but with the ozone exciter before the amp sim. I definitely should try using the saturn though.

  • @elbow333
    @elbow333 10 місяців тому

    Using saturn as a preamp/boost pedal is so smart, im gonna start doing that!

  • @crazyfrets07
    @crazyfrets07 10 місяців тому +1

    The drill sample was a fun touch. haha

  • @Panda_SMM
    @Panda_SMM 6 місяців тому

    man I love rock music

  • @andallicansayis
    @andallicansayis 10 місяців тому +1

    тнаааLL

  • @nowhereweareagain
    @nowhereweareagain 10 місяців тому

    I loved the drill sample

  • @fitzlikegerald
    @fitzlikegerald 10 місяців тому

    SICK!

  • @Heartilla
    @Heartilla Місяць тому +2

    I know Calle from Vildhjärta, we skated together when we were young kids. Time flies. It’s incredible that people know about Vildhjärta.

  • @ScratchBashing
    @ScratchBashing 3 місяці тому

    15:00 c'mon man... that rules!

  • @perrtown
    @perrtown 10 місяців тому

    More please!

  • @hanskasperstorhaug8504
    @hanskasperstorhaug8504 10 місяців тому

    Loved this! 😄

  • @Coffmaestro
    @Coffmaestro 10 місяців тому

    As a Swede, I approve of this dip into dark heaviness

  • @JacobraRecords
    @JacobraRecords 7 місяців тому

    10:23 you have to wait for the loop to finish recording before hitting stop

  • @thenoisewizard174
    @thenoisewizard174 10 місяців тому

    Saturn before sims is amazing. I use SSL Saturation X currently too and it’s just as insane although it’s broadband, it’s still very cool!

  • @BeClayBorn
    @BeClayBorn 10 місяців тому

    Lotsa big brain moves on this one 😎

  • @brandongullion6353
    @brandongullion6353 10 місяців тому

    The face I made when you did the mastering chain playthrough and everything comes in.... good god.

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      It alway hits different when we put the chain on 🙌

  • @selfsatisfiedred
    @selfsatisfiedred 10 місяців тому +4

    +Härdrôck+ (sorry I had to lmfao)

  • @declanwhite
    @declanwhite 9 місяців тому

    lol I do the saturn thing for low tuning stuff too. accidentally copied my saturn bass tone preset onto the guitar DI and it did something for me

  • @JommerMan
    @JommerMan 4 місяці тому

    Hughie, we need sick Thall riffs to drop the homelanda

  • @Grugslybugg666
    @Grugslybugg666 8 місяців тому +1

    This riff is double drop C# would sound THICK

  • @rickjames5684
    @rickjames5684 10 місяців тому

    In all seriousness though, there is very little thall tutorials out there other than Andrew and Johnnys tutorial and would absolutely love to see a tutorial or even just another thall thursday here and there would be so cool. I hope to one day do a one on one sesh with you Nick. I feel like you have infinite knowledge to teach.

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for the kind words! Yeah I might continue this idea on TRT so there may be more thall to come 🤔

  • @MilesTippett
    @MilesTippett 10 місяців тому

    If you have a Whammy V, the CLASSIC mode saves your tone more, but is less polyphonic, the CHORDS mode, not only degrades your signal more, there is a bit of noticable latency.

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому +1

      Oh good catch, I didn't even think about what mode I had it on!

  • @randallismyhandle
    @randallismyhandle 5 місяців тому

    THE BEES OH GOD NOT THE BEES

  • @RiffGrimez
    @RiffGrimez 6 місяців тому

    THICK RIFF THURSDAY HUH?…. SUBSCRIBED !

  • @mattynes
    @mattynes Місяць тому

    Must do a THALL riff once per quarter

  • @zxkevkop
    @zxkevkop 10 місяців тому +1

    Today, Nick finds out that running a signal thru a circuit, affects the signal.

  • @nikolauselsner2564
    @nikolauselsner2564 10 місяців тому

    if you play cleans with whammy pedal you hear sound changes pretty good

  • @drewtheclear
    @drewtheclear 9 місяців тому

    how did you make you drum sound dude , it's so perfect !

  • @davidmuller3140
    @davidmuller3140 10 місяців тому

    How did you achieve this drum sound? For me that's the definition of a perfect drum sound!

  • @e_corky
    @e_corky 10 місяців тому

    I have a whammy pedal as well and I noticed that whenever I used it my sound would be slightly different, I always just thought it was me.

  • @carazy123_
    @carazy123_ 10 місяців тому +1

    WOOOOO
    next up is Mick Broomhall??

  • @ll1521
    @ll1521 10 місяців тому

    That tone… really spot on! will this nolly preset be in your shop?

    • @nickbroomhallmusic
      @nickbroomhallmusic  10 місяців тому

      Not yet but I plan to put it up soon along with other tones I’ve made on TRT!

  • @awdlee
    @awdlee 10 місяців тому

    that shit actually went hard

  • @kettnsaeg
    @kettnsaeg 10 місяців тому

    that one is a really awesome