Four Of The Best Stem Separation Tools
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
- We review four of the best stem separation plugins and focus on which is the best for DJs and live remix performance. Tired of searching for vocal & instrument stems? Then this is the video for you..!
Once upon a time, if you wanted to remix a tune you needed stems supplied by the original producer to do it properly. If you just needed an acapella, you would likely be forced to brave a variety of dodgy forums and torrent sites to find the vocal you were looking for. And at the end of this escapade, you’d likely end up with a clumsily EQ’d version barely concealing the drum tracks underneath while filtering out more than half the emotion of the performance!
Now, however, thanks to recent advances in spectral analysis and machine learning, a number of tools have arrived to intuitively and impressively strip a bounced stereo audio file into separate spectral components with the click of a button.
Check out the final exports on Attack:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
PRODUCTS IN THIS VIDEO:
AudioNamix:
audionamix.com/xtrax-stems/
Ripx DeepRemix by Hit n Mix:
hitnmix.com/
Spectralyers Pro 8:
www.steinberg.net/spectralaye...
Izotope RX 8:
www.izotope.com/en/products/r...
What track did we use as an example?
Track: Storms
Artist: Cenk Esen featuring Bade and Aykan Esen
Album: It's a Family Thing
Label: Esen Productions
Release Date: 18 June 2021
Listen here: open.spotify.com/album/0Ow9me...
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I happened to come across RipX a few months ago and gave it a try. I was immediately blown away by the way it caught all the vocal effects. Previously I was using RX9 and its really not even close. RipX is thus far the best I've heard for creating stems.
boom!
just discovered it a week ago an di am APPALLED. Rx10 does not even come close anymore
thanks for the rec!
I could never get RipX to separate any song into stems. It was taking forever so I discontinued the task. I tried many times with the same outcome. I even did a two bar music file and had the same outcome.
What I’ve found so far with RipX DeepRemix is that automatic sep between vocs bass & drums plus remaining instruments as a group is pretty good but I’ve needed to go more hands on to try and isolate separate instruments sharing the mid range as well as BVs from lead voc. If I’m meticulous with culling the notes I tend to get a workable result. But one thing I really love about DeepRemix is that it’s the gateway to DeepAudio which is where hands on becomes even more rewarding in terms of fixing and creativity. I resisted the upgrade for awhile and then came to appreciate the value of it. And then there’s DeepCreate which I’ve yet to really exploit. Btw I still use Izotope for cleanup and restoration but parked at Rx7.
It's pretty amazing how deep remix is getting that reverb. that's pretty nuts tbf
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
Thanks for the demo. A new age of DSP!
RX 10 sounds amazing.I just tried it. The vocal stem came out supper clean. and it got the base line almost perfect.
Does RX 10 use AI?
Finally got the video of my work. Very easy tutorial. thanks for making this video
Glad it helped
Just FYI, In RX8 you CAN export all 4 stems automatically by pressing the < in the top right. It will collapse the files and then you export to your folder of choice and the 4 stems plus the master file will be there.
Thanks for this!!!
Excellent video, thanks for sharing this video.
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
Bought RipX. Very impressed! :)
Excellent comparison, Thanks.
Much appreciated, great comparison.
Any idea what would work best for older recordings e.g. albums ripped into wav, or 60s/70s tracks on cd ripped into Wav. AM guessing the old recording techniques are a it different and one bit of software might do a better job with muddier/less layered recordings?
This is really amazing video and interesting topic thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
enjoyed this
thank you very much! lot of information
Such a nice explanation👍
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
Great comparison. Thank you very much.
My pleasure!
I believe that in RipX you can change note values and timing right in the window without even having to export to Midi first.
It’s definitely the golden age of the digital world with possibilities never being even imagined,what was once impossible now became possible,back then you had to hunt down those stem source materials to reuse those stems for your projects,but this time now you can extra those stems from your existing recordings and use those instead,even if those stem recordings were thrown away by certain companies to make more room for other stuff ,you no longer have to cry because even a mono recording can be brokwn down again into it’s original stems and change things about it,it’s like going back in time and change things,what was once unreversible became now reversible with these incredible powerful sound tools🙏👍
Thanks ! Very useful !
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Just got RipX and love it, previously was using RX9 but since i did try new RipX it just amazed me. better separations of Vocals, very clean and usable for remixes, also i do like MIDI option.
Thanks for your review and comparison with other software, greetings from Melbourne :-)
Try using rip x for a vocal and then clean up the background noise with rx9....I get really good results like that
Do you find that you get a get result when importing with different formats? If so, what is the best format to use on imported files? Thanks!
I didn't find the talk-over distracting; I was able to hear enough of the track content, and the comments were generally useful. Perhaps a bit less of the "good", "incredible" etc. Apart from that it was very well-paced. As a SpectraLayers user, I found the RipX vocal extract to be the most musical here.
Thanks for sharing these comparations.
In your opinion, which is the best to separate the guitars (or Others)? More focused on someone that transcribe guitars tracks
Great video
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
I can't wait to try some of these on death metal or thrash. They are some of the most sonically complex landscapes in music and I haven't had too much good luck in isolating instruments.
I used the RipX on some thrash metal to some varying degrees of success. Some of them came out quite good and was honestly surprising.
@@punishthedead so a lot has happened in 2 weeks. i've put it to the test and was very impressed. I even erased Megadeth's original guitars and put in my own ua-cam.com/video/bqN80DTJfMo/v-deo.html and got great results. I am currently making a review video with cooperation from the company. Last night I was up till 2 in the morning remixing Testmament's Souls of Black and I was really happy the way it came out. can't stop playing with this new toy!!!!
yeah because its just pure noise with no separation 🤣 you have just as much luck as if you tried to separate white noise
@@obliviox Trolling?
Helpful video.
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
Really good and thorough. Deep Remix sounds pretty dam good and will save me loads of hours looking for torrents haha
Don't use torrents!
Use torrents!
What torrents?
You can grab it with a 50% discount if you're a student
@Luis Felipe defo
What do you guys think of ReGroover? Yay or Nay? Or stick to one of these 4 suggestions?
RX10 is the endgame. Based on personal preference you may find something comparable but you will not find a program better at stem separation. Not only that but very high quality vocal stems, meaning after the surrounding elements are stripped away, you’re left with a vocal that won’t need a ton of eq to get a high quality vocal stem.
Can you recommend a software for piano sound extraction?
As i see, the RIPX is not the best in piano separation...
Nice video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
RIPX to go cause it provides everything in a note which i need.
Definitely going to buy it
Thank you for this video!! Just tried all of these on my own with some heavy metal and RipX is easily the best for stemming. Ive had it since the first verison and theyre constantly improving the algo. Separating high gain guitars (pink noise) and cymbals (also pink noise) is almost impossible but somehow theyve done it the best out of any other system. Obviously some of these tools are not custom-built for the job like they are but that doesnt change my opinion. Results are results.
Hi,I have rip x to and I use it for backing tracks but some songs are 2 instrum on the guitar section and I don't know how to delete them or is and other way to do it..
@@Nicolae8607 When you say "2 instrum on the guitar section" do you mean that other instruments are included in the guitar stem? If so, I dont really know how to further separate them. Maybe try reaching out to HitNMix and ask their support guys. Ive seen it where RipX will separate things further for me, sometimes pulling out a violin stem as well. When it comes to cinematic sounds or keyboards, there are nearly infinite possibilities on what those sounds are made of so I dont know if the machine learning is going to be smart enough to separate all of that on its own. Who knows, maybe the support guys at HitNMix can tell you more. :)
@@Nicolae8607 oi tem como eu separar uma música e depois colocar todos os instrumentos musicais em uma seção só ?
@Luis Felipe em fim alguém que pode me ajudar, como ? E se eu fizer isso poderei evitar a separação das stems
@@jasonzdora I'm pretty sure Nicolae means there's rhythm guitar playing simultaneously with the solo guitar and he wants to separate those two guitars. I face this issue too but I'm sometimes able to clean the solo guitar notes out of the rhythm guitar.
Among these pieces of software, how many stems can you pull out of a song? I have seen 4 to 5. Is 5 the best they can do or can this be done with multiple tracks so 30 from one song? Because everyone wants to be a DJ and what i want is just to break the song down from regular CD and master it.
ok neural mix pro costs 49.90 to buy and own so it looks like the best deal out there. Can anyone say that it lacks in anything (noticeable to the human ear obv..) comapred to anything else on the list?
What’s better in your option? AI stem splitter or using dedicated software?
Very useful, informative video. Keep up the good work, I'm interested to know if any or all of the above will work with older tracks pre-millennium that were produced using different mixing and mastering methods?
Perhaps this and other comments we can cover in a future video?
thank you!
Are all these programs cloud based, or are some independently on the computer without needing connection all the time?
RX8 -- Wonky on the drums! And the "Other". For this test, it seems like Spectralayers 8 for the win of the computer-based options. Why did you rate RX8 better for sound quality?
Can Any Separate Main Vocals from Baking Vocals?
Have you tried spleeter? No fanzy gui but basically does the job
Whats best to separate vocals and lead on wonderful tonight 1980 version? Anybody can help give me link
I'd love it if you made this kind of video for the best vocal extraction tool you can find. And by that i mean extracting clean vocals without reverb and other effects overlaid on the voice.
We could perhaps do a follow up vid focusing ONLY on vocals? Would that be of interest?
@@attackmag Incredibly useful.Yes please.
@@encapsulatio we've added it to the list !
I'd suggest extracting the vocals on rip x and then de-reverb on rx9, amazing results
@@attackmag I am still waiting.
I have a video, the person is talking in the video. The video also has music in the background as the person is talking. The background music is rather loud and it is hard to concentrate on what the person is saying. I like to remove the background music in the video but keep the audio of the person that is talking. Is there any free programs, that I can use that will remove the the background music, but keep the audio of the person talking? Thank you.
Xtrax Stems, Audionamics and Music Rebalance seem to use the same open source library at the backend. RipX seems to be the only providing something different.
Can any of these programs extract more than 15 tracks? Or orchestra?
Is this a one time payment software?!
Or subscription based?!
i would like one to extract piano and wind instrument parts
more best than Izotope RX? what do you think?
Does RipX use macOS dGPU if available?
Awsome music
Thanks for watching. You can see all the stems here:
www.attackmagazine.com/review...
Great video thank you so much. Two questions; 1) How would you rate the extraction quality of xtrax-stems versus the web based Moises Track Extractor. 2) Is there an extraction program that can isolate 2 vocals that are harmonizing (Think Enter Sandman's chorus "Sleep with One Open, ect") or are harmonized vocals to close in frequency to separate post production? Thank you in advance.
Good question!
I tried moises on wonderful tonight 1980 version no it didn't removed lead at all if u removed lead it gets crappy
Personally i use Serato for audio separation, does a great job of audio splitting
Good morning
I tried lalalai and moises and other AI but the result was not good especially for the keyboard
could you give me a test with gay moore (the messiah will come live again at montreux) and if positive I will buy this software
Thanks a lot
yo is ripx safe? i tried doing a background check on it and like, nothing showed up. lmao 😂😂
also is there a stem separation tool for 8bit music?
And the tech will only get better and better.
Absolutely and we'll be here covering it...!
Did creating stems change/improve in RX9 Standard?
i was using RX8 for a year then updated to RX9 , honestly it was no difference, i think they updated only functions and options,
it was a good stem extractor at list for me and there was no better at that time,
But week ago i moved on to RIPX Audio and i can tell You so far best extractor, RipX just went another lever up from other software, clean vocal, proper base and very good drums, also midi option is very useful, it doesn't matter extracting old songs or new one all working fine here, so at the moment staying with RipX till something better comes along. Aha extracting takes much longer then other software but you will here better extraction, normal song takes anything from 4 to 6 min. hope this helps my friend :-)
that RipX showcase is probably the most insane thing I have seen
I tried it recently and finally I was able to extract the bass from a song that I couldn't with Adobe Audition, definitely AI is something else!
Thanks so much. One comment would be that if you'd have chosen a track with actual instruments like real guitars, acoustic, electric maybe some more defined drums and perc and lead and harmony vocals not the nebulous ultra reverb drenched vocal on the track and with other background vocals this may have been a more defined demonstration. Even that bass, no telling if it's an electric bass guitar, an acoustic, a keyboard, or some computer generated wave, but again this was a difficult song choice. That said making it difficult one for AI to separate stems does add some insight on which program is better. I'd like to extract/unmix more than the four stems but separate the different guitars the keys, strings, synths and lead vox from harmonies and bgv's et cetera. Again Thanks.
P.S. With the purchase/upgrade of Magix Samplitude Pro X Suite you get both the iZotope and SpectraLayers Pro versions included (and Sound Forge Pro). You'd have the power of a complete digital audio/video workstation recording and editing studio with this suite of programs. For sure that's overkill for what a DJ job requires though.
You forgot to mention Acoustica by Acon Digital. They integrated "Spleezer" by Deezer and it actually outperforms at least RX8 in generating stems...
Also forgot Neural Mix from Algoriddim which does stem separating in real-time!
Do you think it works with complex tracks like Burial ones?
It's something we can look into..!
Rip x works with heavy bass music like hardcore/jungle/dnb
which ones of these can MUTE OUT an instrument like a Saxophone??
What would you say is the best for a samples based producer?
RipX!
Easily rip x, rx9 for clean up/restore
Does Rip do midi ?
which plugin can extract a guitar such as vocal or bass guitar extracts
RipX can
Rip x
Acon Acoustica also does stem separation
Maybe we can add into a future video..!
I might be wrong, but they must all be based on spleeter
this App keeps crashinhg on my mac help
Thnx for the video. I was particularly interested in the RipX bass track but you talked over it : (
Ripx is a monster of bass isolating, even the slap part.
fl studio 21 is surprising clean with it's stem separation ☺
Yup. FL has done a good job with stem seperation.
And there is no analog equipment for this purpose?
FRIEND MAKE A VIDEO OF CLEANING THE INSTRUMENTAL OBTAINED REMOVED THE VOICE SEPARATION BY INSTRUMENTS BECAUSE THE VOICE IS FILTERED. THANK YOU
Let's see what we can rustle up :)
RX Izo & UVR5 are among the best
Spectralayers Hint: after separation you can manually move parts from stem to stem to get a more precise separation.
Can you clarify: What do you mean by moving parts from stem to stem?
@@chaddonal4331 Example: Spectralayer seperates the mix into drums, bass, vocals and the rest. Next I want to polish it further. I can see (and hear) that in the voice stem some details belonging to another stem. I can mark them and move them to the stem where they belong.
Please excuse my bad english.
@@obecojb Ah, I understand now. Thank you for the expanded explanation. I will look at the tutorials for how to do this (how to mark and move portions from one stem to another).
@@chaddonal4331 ua-cam.com/video/bymnTWpvO7g/v-deo.html
You can also re-assign notes and unpitched sounds to other separated layers in similar ways, using the arrows in RipX
I bought RipX and I don’t like it. I’m trying to figure the guitar parts from an existing song. RipX ALWAYS places the guitar with keyboards. Tech support said I could click on each colored mark that is the guitar and save it by itself. You ca’ even recognize which is the piano and which is the guitar half of the time. Each of those colors are not notes. They’re a portion of a note. They’re digital noises that don’t make any sense when you click on one to try to listen to it. It’s a mess to try to collect all the guitar parts, especially when chords are being played. One chord can be several parts or colors. Not to mention after the software gets ahold of a song it adds wobble and odd effects to the song and to all the individual parts. It sounds like it’s being played underwater.
Yeah the guitar mixing with keyboard is quite annoying.
Goot to know!
I am searching for the best stem extraction software for piano sounds.
Which software do you recommend for me?
Most, if not all, of these tools are using the same open source algorithms to do the splitting. You can even get free versions that work on your phone. The algorithms were originally designed to split vocals from "the rest", but later iterations could do vocals, bass, drums, and "other". Newer versions may be able to separate the "other" section into piano, synths, or guitars, or whatever, but it's a really complicated process. The technology is moving fast though. Stem-splitters from a year ago are almost obsolete already, but I don't know which AI is currently the best.
Thanks for sharing this!
I've been using RX10 and so far, it's been the best to analyze guitars despise it includes the keys or piano in the same track so I'll stay with it
Moises it's a good and free option too
Demucs is free and maybe better :D
I have a specific question, please?
Sure - what’s up?
@@attackmag - OK, thanks! Well I have a (CD) big-band (ie. jazz) recording of which I require the Brass Section to be 'isolated'. This means I need to remove/mute the: Guitar, Bass, and Drum tracks. And so, which 'AI' software do you think will be the most successful in achieving the aforementioned, please? I did try Moises but there was a significant amount of aliasing present on the finished product. Many thanks, Paul
@@monsterjazzlicks try Ripx DeepRemix, a lot of people seem to have gotten successful results from it..
@@omarhabib7411 cheers man.
Moises is excellent and runs on your phone.
Thanks for sharing!
Ripx was by far the best
Rx 👊
You mean Multi Tracks !
Just got a torrent for RipX. Thanks! I found this video while I was trying to figure out what Stem X from Audio Splitter was lol
Torrent from where
@@enriquer556 audionews i think? i can't remember
Do a video , how , fix wha - Wha - wha , at voices Stems...
The problem with all this cloud AI instead of doing it, perhaps slower, on the GFX card... is that they can end support and force you to pay for a new version - or the model can change in ways that you don't like or which ruins your usage case. Remember : You don't own it, you'll never own it. And that really sucks : /
Sorry, Ripx wins, hands down. Separates each sound better. Allows manipulation of each sound better. All around, Ripx is better. Glad I chose that program. And can't beat it for 100 bucks!
Xtrax is subscription only. That's a total rip off. Just like all subscription only products
In my tests RX10 is best
You totally ignored: 1) Ripx failed to extract snares (the Drums track was completely silent and Percussion contained some remnants of hihats), 2) The initial sensitivity settings in SpectraLayers (you should have gone back and retest them high and low). And despite that you comment on the quality of the extraction. Bad half-assed review.
YOU TALK through so much of what we're trying to listen to lol..
Something for us to think about in future videos. If you want to check the results you can hear them at the bottom of this article:
www.attackmagazine.com/reviews/the-best/four-of-the-best-stem-separation-tools/
Hope that helps and thanks for the feedback! 🙏 Make sure to subscribe for more!
Let's give the AI stem separation 4-5 years. Not good enough to me yet.
Previous lifetime license owners of stem 2. Got kicked out. Audionamix says servers have retired. They then decided to strip customers off their lifetime license and offer a 1 year free subscription. that is a complete ripoff cos now you slammed with an app that you don't own so they can keep milking money off you 😢.
Didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.
Same here. Terrible company!
It would have been nice to have a straight up multi piece example rather than some dude in his bedroom making EDM
Whoo no have internet cnexxion?. Jajajaj
Ripass!!!
ha
Xtrax Stems separation is horrible compared to Stem Roller and Lalalai AI.
Stemroller suits my purposes best (it's free and you can do the process locally instead of online) but there are a lot of tools now all using the same (open source?) algorithms. I can't remember if Stemroller or LaLa both use Demucs or something else, but I think they produce essentially the same result as the version of Rx used in this video. Unless the software uses a proprietary algorithm that does the splitting to an even more advanced level, I think people are just paying for flashy front ends to what's really just the same algorithm you can use for free.
This video is twice as long as it needs to be. Half of what you say is totally unnecessary… ex: instead of just clicking RIP, you tell everyone that you are going to click on rip with all of the current settings *then* you click rip. Just click rip. Don’t talk about the fact that you are just about to click it….
In film the rule is: NEVER say something that you can simply show.
Hey man, you've been chattering too much about music, and we can't listen to the vocals, we can't hear them, shouldn't you be silent when the vocals or music play!...
That song is a terrible example to use. You need to use a song with actual instruments.