Thanks for the video! I'm not sure I understand the bit at the beginning about Python? Is that something I need to install as well? I downloaded the "asset" for the CUDA version, unzipped it, ran the exe file and it seems to work. I didn't pre-install any Pyhton stuff though and am worried I may have missed something. Thanks again!
Hey Jim. No, what you've downloaded does all the Python stuff in the background, so you don't have to worry about it. You didn't miss anything, and if it's working, you're all good.
WOW! the timing of this is just perfect! My spectralayers 30 day demo is almost finished and the cost of the full program is like buying another DAW! This is pure gold for me...THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU!
THANK YOU for Demucs GUI recommendation. Fast, free, easy and I got my stems. Amazed at remixing with complete separation of bass, drums, guitar and vocals. The size, the price and bigness of SpectralLayers scared me off. Demucs GUI...Done deal for free. Got near perfect drums from favorite songs to now jam to and extract MIDI from. Saved me money !
Thanks. I followed this and installed the cuda variant on my pc. I was really pleasantly surprised. It takes literally 2-3 seconds to split anything I have thrown at it into 6 stems and the results are all very impressive.
So, as I understand by usiing this program one can produce a high quality caraoke music from an e.g. mp3 song? I tried some online services, but there are always some artefacts left in the instrumental part
I found Demucus last year when my teenage daughter asked me if I can make her some backing tracks for practicing a few of her audition songs 😎 I’ve been using it for a lot of projects ever since 😂❤
I've been struggling to find your comment my comment on my comment which said that the bass on Isithombe Sami came out with the organ on the channel with nothing on the bass. Yes, I tried the 6s which was in fact worse because the other track was not nearly as clear, with the fading in and out that you can get with splitters. I can't say what else I tried because they're named like passwords. But Voice AI couldn't do it either. It's not that the bass is particularly high, so I don't understand. The 4 track was nice and clear, can't say the sale the six, but it's a great tool to have to have the vocals to make name arrangements. I can play all the other parts but can't sing. But not being able to subtract bass parts is a pain because it's usually the first part I replace and obviously easier to write my own with no bassline in the music.
It's fine for modern music. I'm hoping for the ability to split out lead instruments from instrumental tracks, like a flute solo, or some Chinese instruments (Dizi, Hulusi). I haven't heard of anything that can do that yet.
¡No he probado todos los modelos, así que lamento no poder ser más específico! (I haven't tested all the models out, so I'm sorry I can't be more specific!)
Odd I have no audio in my files? Using the most recent version for Win 11, starts seperation and writes files, but there is no audio in file. Any help? ***Got it to work had to use version 1.2
I've seen a couple of people mention this; I've not had any issues with it, and it's also not flagged by Malwarebytes on either Windows or macOS (the one AV/AM solution that I trust), so I'm not aware of any actual issues with it; a lot of it is either easy-to-check Python or stuff like pytorch which is generally possible to check for having been messed with.
Has anyone encountered a model that is able to separate snare or kick? If yes that will be a gating game changer. (Fadr+ and Spectralayers can do it - and maybe there's some obscurely named model out there for Demucs that can do it as well.)
@@musictechtuition@musictechtuition I did download 7-zip, and tried a different unzipping program, but I couldn't get 7-zip as an option, and the other one unzipped it within itself, but I couldn't find where it stored it. I'll try again later, but I spent over an hour on it, downloading it twice, and that was enough time and data spent on it at the time. I have some old recordings of my band, so being able to separate them rather just remaster would be great. I'll see if that link is any different to what I used, thanks.
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn If you're on windows, you should be able to right-click the file, and then from there pick 7-Zip > Extract To (folder name) and you should be good?
@@musictechtuitionI haven't got back to it, but that's what I was asking, I'm on Windows 10, and I'm not getting that option, so I wondered if I needed to do something to have that on the menu. I'll try again later today though.
Why was my comment removed? I like your videos and am curious as to why you don't mention Ultimate Vocal Remover, which is similar to Demucs Gui. Cheers
Your comment wasn't removed - I'm not sure what you're referring to; I've only removed (I think!) 5 comments in the entire decade I've been on YT, and they were pretty clear candidates for deletion! I didn't mention UVR5 as I wasn't aware it did splitting (only removal), and made reference to this in another comment on the other video on spltting comparisons, but as it uses demucs I think the results would be largely the same (although I have found it to be slower than demucs-gui). Not sure how to reference a link to a comment, but on the other video you'll see I responded to louminati4318's comment on UVR5.
UA-cam probably removed it. They don't allow (in most cases) posting of web links, etc. Maybe you triggered one of their "forbidden" words. It's really awful these days...completely innocuous comments get deleted with no explanation.
I did a pretty in-depth comparison here - ua-cam.com/video/d-_IkE8siLo/v-deo.html - and generally it was similar to RipX (as I think it uses the same algorithm), but I also found that it varies considerably depending on the source material.
Have a look at the comparison video linked in the description; generally I found it to be on a par with SL10 and RipX (both of which use demucs), but it can be model and source dependent, so it's difficult to give a defininitive answer.
@@rldivide Absolutely. There's a lot more to Spectralayers than stem splitting, and no more to demucs-GUI than stem splitting - they're very different in that respect.
I can't get it to work at all, I downloaded the latest version, says I needed to install another file which download, but came with no instructions where to install it, I think I figured it out but the program just froze and did nothing :(
@@musictechtuition I'm on windows 11, I followed your install process. Your video shows 3 options for download but now there's only 2 for me. After installation I got a pop up message about the GPU needing to download another file which I did but was unsure where I was supposed to place it afterwards.
I think this comparison will be obsolete again in just a few months. Things are moving quickly in the AI world. My guess is that GANs will be the next step: As an experienced musician I know what a hihat should sound and what drummers typically play on a hihat, my brain adds frequencies and hits back if I try to isolate the hihat in my brain, even if they are not in the recording anymore. GANs (Generative Adversarial Networks) could do exactly that. Then you would reconstruct a believable sounding stem, that contains more information than your original recording (but these were only "guessed" based on the typical sound and playing of an instrument).
I think it probably will be semi-obsolote, but I'm not sure about GANs replacing these sort of tools any time soon. I actually think you're onto something with that, and I've thought that would be a good way for video 'restoration' for a long time (I think it was about 8 years ago during a long classroom discussion I first brought this up). But the main problem with GANs at the moment is a lack of control over the process, and also they will still create audio which is generated via ML, so it's probably going to sound like AI music generation tools (where in my experience things like kick drums don't have the attack and power than a fresh, clean sample will do).
@@-Deena.Yes, it was in there - in the summary it's one of two solutions I suggest to use (along with ai-lyd.no if you want top quality) precisely because it works around as well as SL10 and RipX but is much faster (and no extra cost if you don't own the other two).
I haven't had any issues with it on Windows or macOS (otherwise I wouldn't have made the video), and Malwarebytes doesn't see any issues with it. What is the actual report for this in Kaspersky?
Demucs works great and fast here. But a header seriously claiming that it is as good as Spectralayers and RipX is a completely misleading overstatment from my view. Both of the latter offer a lot of functionality that Demucs does not have, from more than just four stems up to vast analyzing and editing functions, in complete song overview. I wouldn't consider replacing Rip-X or Spectralayers by Demucs on my system, not for a second! Only in cases, when I want only the four stems get done fast, and nothing else, I use Demucs.
I don't think the title claims that - It says that the stem splitting is as good as RipX and Spectralayers, and I think it is from the testing I did in a previous video. In the summary of that video I also say that both RipX and Spectralayers offer a lot of editing potential not present in Demucs GUI, but that if you're only using the stem splitting capability (and most of my clients who have either piece of software are primarily or solely using them for that function alone) then demucs GUI is a better option in terms of speed, workflow and cost (if you've not bought SL or RipX yet).
Thanks for the video! I'm not sure I understand the bit at the beginning about Python? Is that something I need to install as well? I downloaded the "asset" for the CUDA version, unzipped it, ran the exe file and it seems to work. I didn't pre-install any Pyhton stuff though and am worried I may have missed something. Thanks again!
Hey Jim. No, what you've downloaded does all the Python stuff in the background, so you don't have to worry about it. You didn't miss anything, and if it's working, you're all good.
@@musictechtuition can this seperate drum into its seperate instruments, like kick, snare, high hat, shaker etc?
@@PowerRedBullTypologyIt doesn’t, but you can do that as another step in a DAW. Most of them will slice the audio file up into single hits for you
WOW! the timing of this is just perfect! My spectralayers 30 day demo is almost finished and the cost of the full program is like buying another DAW! This is pure gold for me...THANKYOU! THANKYOU! THANKYOU!
No worries, glad it was useful!
THANK YOU for Demucs GUI recommendation. Fast, free, easy and I got my stems. Amazed at remixing with complete separation of bass, drums, guitar and vocals. The size, the price and bigness of SpectralLayers scared me off. Demucs GUI...Done deal for free. Got near perfect drums from favorite songs to now jam to and extract MIDI from. Saved me money !
Thanks. I followed this and installed the cuda variant on my pc. I was really pleasantly surprised. It takes literally 2-3 seconds to split anything I have thrown at it into 6 stems and the results are all very impressive.
So, as I understand by usiing this program one can produce a high quality caraoke music from an e.g. mp3 song? I tried some online services, but there are always some artefacts left in the instrumental part
Watched the comparison video tried to get this software, but ran away in terror when I saw the download process so really appreciate this video. 🎉
Thanks Ben, glad it was useful (and I suspected it would have put people off!)
Thank you - just the right amount of detail - no fuss. Much appreciated.
I found Demucus last year when my teenage daughter asked me if I can make her some backing tracks for practicing a few of her audition songs 😎 I’ve been using it for a lot of projects ever since 😂❤
Brilliant. Thank you for sharing your time and expertise with us. Much appreciated.
nice tannoys , ive got the blue ones. they sound great after all the years
Wow thanks man for the heads up, very rad tool!
Great...thanks for the info!
Amazing! Thanks so much for introducing me to this.
Glad it's been useful!
Perfect walkthrough thanks!
"The overlap of programmers and music producers are quite a narrow one"
Progressive rock/metal musicians: "Are we a joke to you???"
Thank you! This is really interesting!
Thank you for your reply, anyway.
awesome, thanks for this
I've been struggling to find your comment my comment on my comment which said that the bass on Isithombe Sami came out with the organ on the channel with nothing on the bass. Yes, I tried the 6s which was in fact worse because the other track was not nearly as clear, with the fading in and out that you can get with splitters. I can't say what else I tried because they're named like passwords. But Voice AI couldn't do it either. It's not that the bass is particularly high, so I don't understand. The 4 track was nice and clear, can't say the sale the six, but it's a great tool to have to have the vocals to make name arrangements. I can play all the other parts but can't sing. But not being able to subtract bass parts is a pain because it's usually the first part I replace and obviously easier to write my own with no bassline in the music.
Nice monitors! What are they? Look a bit like Swans, but maybe higher end.
Thank You So Much!!!
It's fine for modern music. I'm hoping for the ability to split out lead instruments from instrumental tracks, like a flute solo, or some Chinese instruments (Dizi, Hulusi). I haven't heard of anything that can do that yet.
Superb vid. Well done sir. Thks.
Thank you, much appreciated!
Hola, cual es el mejor modelo que me recomendas usar ? Saludos muy buen video!!!!!!!!
¡No he probado todos los modelos, así que lamento no poder ser más específico! (I haven't tested all the models out, so I'm sorry I can't be more specific!)
Great tutorial. What if I dont want Other but guitar and synths apart ?
I can't find an information on the various models included. Any idea what the different versions do or focus on?
the cpu version just crashes and does not load on my pc. how can i fix it?
The log file should give you some idea of what's happening - it should be in your home folder (I think it's hidden on Windows).
Is the default save location "Downloads" on mac? I can't seem to find my stems but the GUI indicates that my files have been saved?
Can´t find the downloadable GUI files, they are not clickable in the link?
Odd I have no audio in my files? Using the most recent version for Win 11, starts seperation and writes files, but there is no audio in file. Any help? ***Got it to work had to use version 1.2
Holy shit this is the nuts.
Was looking forward to using this but Norton flagged every file/dll as a problem so wouldn't load.
I've seen a couple of people mention this; I've not had any issues with it, and it's also not flagged by Malwarebytes on either Windows or macOS (the one AV/AM solution that I trust), so I'm not aware of any actual issues with it; a lot of it is either easy-to-check Python or stuff like pytorch which is generally possible to check for having been messed with.
is there no way to choose mp3?
Can Demucs GUI create click tracks?
Has anyone encountered a model that is able to separate snare or kick? If yes that will be a gating game changer. (Fadr+ and Spectralayers can do it - and maybe there's some obscurely named model out there for Demucs that can do it as well.)
I've no idea how to unzip the file. If I click open with, the option is the 7 zip installer. How do you get using 7 zip as an option?
Download 7-zip here - 7-zip.org/ - then once that's installed you should be good to unzip and use demucs GUI.
@@musictechtuition@musictechtuition I did download 7-zip, and tried a different unzipping program, but I couldn't get 7-zip as an option, and the other one unzipped it within itself, but I couldn't find where it stored it. I'll try again later, but I spent over an hour on it, downloading it twice, and that was enough time and data spent on it at the time.
I have some old recordings of my band, so being able to separate them rather just remaster would be great. I'll see if that link is any different to what I used, thanks.
@@Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn If you're on windows, you should be able to right-click the file, and then from there pick 7-Zip > Extract To (folder name) and you should be good?
@@musictechtuitionI haven't got back to it, but that's what I was asking, I'm on Windows 10, and I'm not getting that option, so I wondered if I needed to do something to have that on the menu. I'll try again later today though.
Why was my comment removed? I like your videos and am curious as to why you don't mention Ultimate Vocal Remover, which is similar to Demucs Gui. Cheers
Your comment wasn't removed - I'm not sure what you're referring to; I've only removed (I think!) 5 comments in the entire decade I've been on YT, and they were pretty clear candidates for deletion!
I didn't mention UVR5 as I wasn't aware it did splitting (only removal), and made reference to this in another comment on the other video on spltting comparisons, but as it uses demucs I think the results would be largely the same (although I have found it to be slower than demucs-gui). Not sure how to reference a link to a comment, but on the other video you'll see I responded to louminati4318's comment on UVR5.
thanks for your reply@@musictechtuition
UA-cam probably removed it. They don't allow (in most cases) posting of web links, etc. Maybe you triggered one of their "forbidden" words. It's really awful these days...completely innocuous comments get deleted with no explanation.
RipX as I have it and Spleeter destroy bass tone-overtones giving a muddy phasey mess - does this one do better?
I did a pretty in-depth comparison here - ua-cam.com/video/d-_IkE8siLo/v-deo.html - and generally it was similar to RipX (as I think it uses the same algorithm), but I also found that it varies considerably depending on the source material.
great!! thanks
Does this work as well as Spectral Layers10 ??
Marginally better than SL10.
Have a look at the comparison video linked in the description; generally I found it to be on a par with SL10 and RipX (both of which use demucs), but it can be model and source dependent, so it's difficult to give a defininitive answer.
You can run two different algo's after one another and get marginally better results than the commercial apps. At no cost.
Note that Demucs GUI won't allow you to do post-fixing/rebalancing after the AI has been applied.
@@rldivide Absolutely. There's a lot more to Spectralayers than stem splitting, and no more to demucs-GUI than stem splitting - they're very different in that respect.
Thanks bro
I can't get it to work at all, I downloaded the latest version, says I needed to install another file which download, but came with no instructions where to install it, I think I figured it out but the program just froze and did nothing :(
Are you on macOS or Windows? How far through the process do you get?
@@musictechtuition I'm on windows 11, I followed your install process. Your video shows 3 options for download but now there's only 2 for me. After installation I got a pop up message about the GPU needing to download another file which I did but was unsure where I was supposed to place it afterwards.
@@NIGH.NE. What was the other file?
@@musictechtuition it was a dll file, something about intel GPU, I think it was to do with AOT or something like that!
@@musictechtuition I figured it out, it was asking if I wanted to download the AOT version because it had detected Intel GPU acceleration :)
interesting.. why none examples?
In depth comparison of multiple stem splitting software here - ua-cam.com/video/d-_IkE8siLo/v-deo.html
I think this comparison will be obsolete again in just a few months. Things are moving quickly in the AI world. My guess is that GANs will be the next step: As an experienced musician I know what a hihat should sound and what drummers typically play on a hihat, my brain adds frequencies and hits back if I try to isolate the hihat in my brain, even if they are not in the recording anymore. GANs (Generative Adversarial Networks) could do exactly that. Then you would reconstruct a believable sounding stem, that contains more information than your original recording (but these were only "guessed" based on the typical sound and playing of an instrument).
I think it probably will be semi-obsolote, but I'm not sure about GANs replacing these sort of tools any time soon. I actually think you're onto something with that, and I've thought that would be a good way for video 'restoration' for a long time (I think it was about 8 years ago during a long classroom discussion I first brought this up). But the main problem with GANs at the moment is a lack of control over the process, and also they will still create audio which is generated via ML, so it's probably going to sound like AI music generation tools (where in my experience things like kick drums don't have the attack and power than a fresh, clean sample will do).
✔️ Promo sm
Wot. No demo? 😒
In depth comparison of multiple stem splitting software here - ua-cam.com/video/d-_IkE8siLo/v-deo.html
@@musictechtuition Watched it already. 🧡This wasn't one of them?
@@-Deena.Yes, it was in there - in the summary it's one of two solutions I suggest to use (along with ai-lyd.no if you want top quality) precisely because it works around as well as SL10 and RipX but is much faster (and no extra cost if you don't own the other two).
@@musictechtuition How did I miss it! Thank you 🧡
Very comprehensive explanation's and walkthrough's helpful for all from beginners to pro's alike. Thank you so much. x
Kaspersky detects demux GUI as a malware ! Definitely not recommend, seems dodgy... don't know if other users had the samedi experience
I haven't had any issues with it on Windows or macOS (otherwise I wouldn't have made the video), and Malwarebytes doesn't see any issues with it. What is the actual report for this in Kaspersky?
Worked fine here, but I'm using Windows Security. Some of the commercial and even free Antivirus tools are just too sensitive.
Kaspersky is now banned is the USA , lol. The malware alert is bogus.
Demucs works great and fast here. But a header seriously claiming that it is as good as Spectralayers and RipX is a completely misleading overstatment from my view. Both of the latter offer a lot of functionality that Demucs does not have, from more than just four stems up to vast analyzing and editing functions, in complete song overview. I wouldn't consider replacing Rip-X or Spectralayers by Demucs on my system, not for a second! Only in cases, when I want only the four stems get done fast, and nothing else, I use Demucs.
I don't think the title claims that - It says that the stem splitting is as good as RipX and Spectralayers, and I think it is from the testing I did in a previous video. In the summary of that video I also say that both RipX and Spectralayers offer a lot of editing potential not present in Demucs GUI, but that if you're only using the stem splitting capability (and most of my clients who have either piece of software are primarily or solely using them for that function alone) then demucs GUI is a better option in terms of speed, workflow and cost (if you've not bought SL or RipX yet).
this was useful, thank you!