I've been considering this video idea for a few months now. Although the subject matter could be seen as negative, please understand that I, and many others, genuinely love this game - that's why we're so frustrated. My views are fair and not intended to incite anger. I kindly ask that the comments section remain civil. Throw a *like* and *sub* if you like!
I know you’re an official partner but it’s sad you have to pander and hold back on the straight forward opinions you and many of us have. The game is a travesty at this point. I mourn the wasted potential. I am frustrated at the fact emporium gets priority over smoother gameplay, bug corrections and cheat removal. You should be able to objectively criticize Rare without fear of them retaliating. I know it’s in their nature to ban and silence people who dare suggest Rare could be doing better… but for about a year now (since HG released) I haven’t seen anything from Rare that tells me they are prioritizing the gaming experience. They are wholly incompetent. You recently made a video about Rare no longer communicating consistently with its player base. That is, in a nutshell, the crux of the issues. Promises aren’t delivered and then it’s just silence. Prioritize new players over player retention and whale chasing in the emporium rather than overall community and game health, this is where we end up. Rare is screwing up in a variety of ways. Don’t be afraid to speak your mind, you don’t have to apologize as you criticize. We love the game same as you. The developers at Rare are adults. It’s time we put the quality of the game over their feelings.
And then there is the fact that many year1 players, like me, have so much gold that they do not know what to do with it, literally. I am too empathic too and always felt my fair share of guilt when I stole from other players, especially if they were Sloopers like me. ( _I'm a "like to punch up", guy._ ) So now I am stuck with no thrill to steal at all and feel like a pure griefer when I do. The simple piratedream of amassing a teasure is gone. I already own it. And an effective goldsink does not exist. Buying dozen of recolors which will clutter my inventory to no end? No thanks. I would so love to spend it all on *allegiance* but alas... 😏 this looks like it won't happen. And just like that... I am done with everything I want. I would like the golden bones... instead of 20 million gold. The one thing I cannot get currently without feeling like a p°thet°c loser... and the other gold is stuck with me forever, ironically. Not cool.
Sadly this "subject matter" has also been the norm for a very long time, it in its self is tiering. This game will never live up to what the "community" wants EVER. I play ALOT of games and rare have been one of the biggest advocates for trying to shape the game to its playerbase, but people are never happy. The FOMO lore content was a great example of this, people hated missing out while also saying they had no reason to log in. People who advocated for this game contedict themselves soooo much. Every person now seems to want to fix the game and seem to act like they know more then the actual creators. Calling the core enjoyment people get out of this the honeymoon phase is short sighted, the honeymoon phase IS the game and for a lot of people that's enough. Content creators act like they are the voice of the community but sorry you guys play this for a job so ofc its going to get stale. I genuinely think the only negative plaguing this game is optimisation and stability, it needs to be addressed soon. I still have to give rare some credit for making a first of its kind game. Developers obviously tend to build on top of outdated software/code to keep it alive for so long, can't imagine how hard it must be. All I'm saying is I'm tired of constant negetvity. I know it is said as criticism and it gives you reasons to make videos; its all I've heard for years and yet its one of the most fun I've had in gaming.
Captaincy is what soured me on sea of thieves, I thought I'd actually get to decide what my ship looked like below deck. I thought I'd decide the layout, the furniture, etc. Instead all I got was trinkets and paintings with only a few minor changes locked behind hours or grind.
@@Kyphura same stuff with no mans sky. People need to start understanding what can and can't be done in games and you won't get hyped up about false promises. I could tell you that wouldn't be possible without a complete overhaul in design
As a 6 year veteran as well, I can't thank you enough for this video. It's exactly how I'm feeling. For such a unique experience in the gaming world, I can only hope this gets better.
this video will definitely say what the community are feeling right now and hoping the beautiful game will get back to its best,unfortunately its in a real poor state with all the bugs and delays the player count is just understandably dropping
I really like the previous assessment you made about the game needing an engine upgrade I believe it was. "My memory may be failing me," but this game really is showing its age at this point. But it can be saved. I still love this game after almost 7k hrs, but there are things that keep it in a state of mediocrity, which you covered very well. Here's to a hopeful future of Sea of Thieves. Cheers! 🍻
"Save the magic of Sea of Thieves" is such a good note to end on. It really is a magical experience, like you've been whisked away to another world, and there is so much world for you to see. Us who've been playing forever might not feel that way, but to a new player, they usually have the same reaction - utter bewilderment, and stunned with the thrill of adventure. Because of what Rare has built. They, I'm sure, recognize they have made something very special, and I'm sure, are fillled with stress, quite often, on how to continue making it something special, for everyone.
Its refreshing to see comments like these when a lot of the other stuff you read is just angry banter. For us who truly love the game we will remain vigilant but also show rare out distain for the current state of the game. Let's keep giving feedback and in the end, we'll see what Rare will do!
-Guilds up to 500 members per guild. Make it an ACTUAL community. -Make Sea Dogs into SOMETHING. A huge social area with mini games or a cool in-game trading market would be incredible. -Drop old gen support and get some better servers. Please. This will fix so many issues. -Provide new experiences like fighting sea monsters or going on quests to deliver fugitive NPCs across the seas while being hunted by players. Something genuinely new and fresh. The game is so fun but give people a reason to STAY! Edit: one more cool idea I’ve seen is the ability to DEFEND SEA FORTS a la hourglass style. Take over a fort, allow people to dive to you and try to destroy it. If you successfully defend you get a huge payout.
Guilds don’t need to be bigger. I just think you should not be allowed to be in multiple guilds. Then you take up a valuable slot in a guild, but you only participate in the most active guild you are in. Also, a better player recruitment system would go a long way.
@@rtcgaming7328 Bigger ones are needed for big communities (example: Those around youtubers), otherwise they get fragmented and get stagnated, killing reason for guild's to exist.
@@CaramelCraft from another unreal engine 4 developer, sot is nowhere need the maximum load for unreal 4. it's 90% server performance and spaghetti code creating the issues found today. hence why fixing fishing rod launches or introducing crouching to the game broke other mechanics that are completely unrelated.
The issue with Sea of Thieves is that it's a gorgeous game that feels empty. There is content, but the content is the same 3 quests over and over again with different factions to level up. You can only kill so many skeletons in an empty server until it loses its charm, no matter what context it is, either Order of Souls, Gold Hoarders, Merchant Alliance, Reapers, Athenas, Tall Tales.
I am sadly one of the players that's left this game. I have great memories of Sea of Thieves with my friends but they're not enough to bring me back, I love this game from a distance, it's why im subscribed to this channel. I love watching other people enjoy this game and seeing the new content is occasionally exciting.
I left because once I got a full time job I just did not have the time to invest into such a time demanding game while wanting to keep up with hobbies on the side. I often had to choose- Play the game and risk losing all progression to toxic sweats? or do my hobby before work? For as much as I love pirates, I do not trust Rare being capable of handling this game properly anymore. The Pirates of the Caribbean collab was it's peak and we're never getting back to that. Too many bugs, exploits and cheaters all while being an incredibly grindy, time consuming and high stakes game. This game used to be a goofy sandbox game. Now it's basically just another extraction shooter.
@@pyerackSame. I think after I got my job, it only highlighted Falcore’s point even more that aside from the major content drops which can be done in a weekend, there isn’t really much incentive for me to want to STAY in the game. Sure PvP is fun, but that also got stale after a few years
The old advice of "if it's not broke, don't fix it" speaks volumes here. The devs need to stop updating / changing things for the sake of just changing / adding things - but instead, actually fix the things that aren't working. We don't need a swath of new content / features every few months, we need what exists to be perfected. Also, we don't need more excuses to engage in PvP (like "Skull of Siren Song" voyage for example). There are plenty of opportunities to get into PvP for those who want it, and adding all of the new content just taxes the servers ---> which leads to the maximum number of ships per server being dropped ---> which leads to less players on a server ---> which ultimately leads to fewer organic PvP encounters. TL;DR: in my opinion, it's time to cut the fat and fix what's broken - do that, and players will come, and stay. P.S. It's also time text-search-filters for clothing/vanity and ship livery parts becomes a thing in the menus. Trying to put on a ship livery shouldn't take 10 min of scrolling through hundreds of parts when a filter could sort it down for you.
Yes, I agree. It seems like they are constently trying to recreate the haydays of the skelly forts when everybody were trying to server hop^and engage in a free for all for those forts. Like op said, stop trying to create excuses for forced PVP, and please, please review the respawn mechanic. I hate it when I sink a ship after 20 minutes of intense battle just to see it coming back for a rematch 5 minutes later. Winning a fight should mean something.
''We don't need a swath of new content / features every few months, we need what exists to be perfected.'' Uh yeah you do. Have you not seen the backlash of the seasons where almost nothing was added? Does every SoT fan have their head up their own ass?
@@pyerack I think it might be true short term; content updates probably bring small bumps in the players count, probably former regular players coming back for a couple weeks and then leaving again until the next update (or never), but the accumulation of unfixed problems results in a slow but steady erosion of their player base that will eventually kill the game for good. The trend has been downward for a while now, and undercooked content update won't cut it.
comments cant even agree on the problem. Half the comments say not enough PVP or content. Other Half say too much content and too much PVP. poor devs lol.
The main issue here is that Rare isn't adding any events during seasons other than community or 2x gold weekend, there needs to be some incentive for players to engage and play SOT on a regular basis, but when Rare releases seasons with very lackluster content, consistently bad stability issues and horrendous bugs/glitches, it's very hard especially for the OG SOT playerbase to keep coming back. Rare needs to make drastic changes to SOT whether it's the seasonal model or something else I don't know, but a change is needed and quick
Exactly this! Monster Hunter World will periodically revamp its pass events for old and new players to redo/do. Like when the trade routes were added, SOT had this week or two week long event of Merchant vs reaper that added higher reward with the higher risk of you participated on either side and it was one of my favorite events besides community day that I enjoyed! They absolutely need to do more events like this!
@@MingledFurball a few community addresses ago they said it was going to be a weekend thing every week. They did 2 in a row, skipped a week, did one more. Been quiet since. Devs are proving lazy imo
One of the big problems i have as an old player, is that i HATE time limited content, i cannot bring myself to come back, to try several times to do content while sweats PvP me all the time. Adventures would have been better made as Tall Tales, even if they limited them to safer seas, so anyone wanting to do them had a special instance of the server. And on that note, its stupid to not let people bring their ships to safer seas, just lock the advancement of some achivements and done, i just want to bring my own ship with my decorations.
I know it's a little bitchy of me but i can't help but say my reason for quitting as i have gotten raided three playthroughs in a row with 3 hours worth loot as i got absolutely demolished by sweats and whenever i try to comeback to the game the same exact thing happens again it just seems very gated from new players, I'm not sure if it's only me but i just wanted to say my piece.
I keep seeing people say "just dont gather loot for 3 hours without selling" like that makes a difference at all. Ignoring the fact that sometimes we get destroyed after grabbing a single chest and cant do a damn thing about it because somebody with over 100x your playtime is killing you constantly. and even if you DO learn to be pretty good, its completely unreasonable to expect a casual player to beat that person ever. to compare it to another game, one that has ONLY PvP: I play overwatch. I'm ranked high-Plat, meaning im slightly above average. Not a single person in the world would ever expect me to stand up against a Grandmaster player, much less try to learn the game against them. but it seems to me that if you bring up that sentiment when discussing SoT, those better players come out the woodwork and start calling you a baby for wanting a casual game that you can maybe sometimes fight in.
@@charlesmanary2936 What makes it worse, at least Overwatch tries to match you with an equal playing field. SoT will spawn a full galleon at the closest ports while you're on a sloop solo, regardless of their faction rankings including hourglass.
Honestly my experience is get good at the Hourglass grind. There's some great players who will sink you, but if you get some practice in Hourglass you'll get better at holding your ground and fighting ship to ship, and it gives you a skill edge over a lot of players in the high seas. Yes you can get unlucky and face sweats still in the high seas, but good Hourglass skills gives you an advantage over 80% of the players who don't fight PvP regularly, so use the mode to hone your skills. The second is just learning how to run and waste an enemy's energy and time in a chase. I've been chased by bigger crews and sailed against the wind, sailed into the Devil's Roar, into storms and ghost fleets; just any mutual hazard where a sloop can out maneuver a brig or galleon. Yes they'll call you names for running from a fight, but why take it personally? Using the environment and risks in it to escape a fight can be a great feeling to out-sail an opponent and reach safety. To your criticism though, spawn times in the game can be broken terribly. Especially on Xbox One and low end PC's, it is possible to be stuck waiting for the Ferry to load while your enemy has had a chance to turn your ship into Swiss cheese. The hit reg problems also make PvP not always a fair fight too, let alone encountering cheaters. A sudden server disconnect can decide a fight. While my tips help in a lot of cases, the game being buggy and broken can derail that still and as the video address is a core thing that needs to be fixed.
@@charlesmanary2936 whats really killed sea of thieves is the community. the honest friendly people have all been driven out. The 'get good' and 'its a pirate game' crowd have completely conquered the seas, even if rare gets off there anchor and fix 100% of the games mechanical problems.....the games still gonna be slowly dying. It will just be a well polished corpse because the community around and in the game is so blood thirsty and hostile
Played the first three years of Sea of Thieves and then got burnt out by first few seasons; just like any games with season in them I get tired of working the game to a deadline rather then playing the game at my leisure.
For me it's the sketchy devs with server alliances but mainly the forums mods are absolutely 10 year old children. Worst forum mods EVER. Still my 3rd favourite game ever published.
The forum moderators and the forums are a horrible joke. The community that's left there is a toxic nest of sycophants who dogpile anyone who renders feedback or suggestions, which the mods encourage. Even the insiders forum is utterly pointless as any feedback given by the community is pretty much always completely ignored.
This sounds like a MAAAJOR issue the devs need to adress and they should completely destroy and rebuild the forums with reliable people modding instead of childish cunts who don't love the game
lol..o.k. buddy .... devs running server alliances sounds like a thing that doesnt exist. MOre like you were told on an alliance server that you were talking to a dev and you believed it without proof? And yes, if you got banned through discord you did something catastrophically stupid...which, if the context was shown in public, everyone would be making fun of you.
Abandoning the lore for almost two years killed the game for me. I still keep playing from time to time and grind the season pass, but i'm no longer invested in any part of SoT, and it makes me so sad because i loved, and still love, this game so much.
Also, please please please, drop the season format. Do you remember what season 4 was about? What season 9 was about? No cachy names, no strengh in it. Numbered seasons are only boring numbers that often are delayed or cut short.
The biggest issue I have with the game that was not mentioned here is how people can just load into a server and go and sink a ship that has been stacking loot for hours, and if they fail and sink they lose nothing but if they succeed the other ship loses hours of work. I think there needs to be SOMETHING that makes going for PVP more of a risk
This drove away so much of the player variety, too. I remember early on in the game's life, just after release, you would encounter all sorts of people. Most ships that approached you weren't hostile, and even when they were it was never predictable, with everyone so inexperienced any strategy was on the table, making it sometimes truly enjoyable to be attacked by people with the most ridiculous of plans. But that was the smaller side - you encountered all sorts of friendly crews, people just stopping by to say hello, or the fun ones dragging you into sword duels on the rigging or their tea-collecting navy roleplay or whatever other things they'd have. But when you try to do any of that, or try to ignore interaction entirely, and you instead encounter the same crews repeatedly who just want to seek you out and kill you for no reason other than to kill people, it ruins a lot of that fun, and people leave. Then there's proportionally more people doing their endless hunt and less people buffering them from the remaining ones not doing that, and so on and so forth until they're pretty much all that's left alongside the stubborn ones who stay in spite of them. It feels so much worse to lose hours of effort and stacking than it feels good to sink someone doing that, and that's a problem the game has never escaped. At its core, it's the session-based gameplay - if you had to work up to get the weapons and ship necessary to hunt someone down, this would have basically not been a problem at the start. People would choose their battles, and fear losing their weapons if they're fought back against in the same way the people collecing money would fear losing their current haul, and in the meantime while they're continuing to gather they would gain a further weapon advantage. It would feel good to overcome a superior opponent, and you would lose your massive hauls less often. But that wasn't what Rare wanted, and this is what it got us.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 Exactly. People have limited amount of free time. They can play other games, watch Netflix, doom scroll TikTok. If they're required to invest multiple hours to finish the more interesting voyages or world events, but they can lose the loot any time to someone who isn't risking anything and just bought some resources, hopped on a ship and can (and will) come back repeatedly, people will just leave. Or they'll do Safer Seas, which has it's limits and the impact on Higher Seas population is the same as leaving.
THANK YOU for finally speaking up to say things that needed to be said. Too often-almost all the time, really-content creators, whether videos or podcasts, want to stay on everyone’s good side and try to “keep it positive,” which tends to be even more irritating as it gives the impression that they’re serving Rare rather than the community by avoiding certain topics with the excuse that “yeah, but everyone already knows that, so there’s no point in talking about it.” It’s not a dead game, but its soul is certainly dying when, as a player, you feel that the community loves this game more than its creators do, judging by the promises made/kept/not kept. The feeling of betrayal started with the seasons; the video where they assured us we’d still get as much content as with monthly updates but condensed into three months. Nonsense. We’re getting less and less, and of worsening quality; sometimes you wonder if they even play the game, the proposals are so out of sync with player expectations. And to top it off, with the captaincy, you’re asked to start all over again, with minor tweaks, even if you’ve already maxed out things you don’t want to redo. The narrative world makes no sense-not talking about the “mysteries” here, just basic writing flaws that even a simple ChatGPT prompt could fix. Adventures promised to fill this lack of storytelling but were once again started and then abandoned as if by amateurs, and so on. I get that, yes, it’s a “free” live service, but no, we buy the game with the promise of a live service experience, with the promise of evolving for the better. All we do in Sea of Thieves is hope, season after season, to get content for the players and not content that checks a box for the studio like, “that’s done, we’ve provided a season.” I buy as much as possible in the emporium, not even out of love for the cosmetics but to support Rare in its model. If none of this is working, it’s time to change strategy. In fact, I think we’re all waiting for this-a wake-up call and some transparency. For someone to speak up and say, “We’ve heard you, we understand, give us some time to show you that we’re still here.” And honestly, the little “mysteries” like “we can’t talk about what’s coming, but it’s going to be amazing” worked for a few years; now we’ve understood that generally there’s NOTHING. Stop building hype around what’s not there and start building hype around what actually is. That would be a first step. I also have to add, to this feeling of lost trust, the overall management of the game’s image. Banning a player and setting up resources to repeatedly track and block them or harm them as a content creator raises huge questions about “content exploitation” in their game for creators. There are also extremely questionable waves of bans against which players can do nothing, leaving me hesitant even to try in PvP, just in case my lag gets mistaken for teleporting, etc. Or getting a ban (which isn’t even an actual ban), at the same time as a bunch of other players on Twitch, without ever receiving any explanation, context, or apology. There’s a massive loss of trust in their ability to manage, envision, and deliver. It’s unfortunate, but that’s why this video is valuable-now they know it’s gotten to the point where even Captain Falcore is addressing it on his channel. The time has come to take action.
Oh and don't get me started on content creators gifts with the horrible "serpent sails" when we had beatiful sets in the beginning. Yeah, sorry for the long message.
The feeling of betrayal and broken promises is older than that. I remember days just after launch, when they added the sloop and said they would not make concessions to solo players, that if you chose to play a game intended for a minimum of four alone then you would deal with challenges made for a minimum of four, alone. The game's life has quite a few such long-forgotten statements, but that is the simplest one to put into words.
Rare cannot get the balance right between too easy and too grindy: Skull of siren song commendations are way to easy to complete, so all dedicated players are already done with them. Guilds and Hourglass don't offer enough rewards for the long grind one has to do. Thus many players don't bother with it. (Season 13 has helped the servant faction a fair bit in that regard, but I feel like there should be some reward every 20 to 50 levels. Not every 100 to 200). For the skull of siren song rare needs to 1. Make the voyage spawn less often, so it's more like a FoF in rarety. 2. Make new rewards so player play it again. 3. Make the voyage despawn after a certain timer, so it doesn't stay active forever
While the soss quest was way too easy for my crew and I (who love pvp), it was frustrating how the achievements were built around it: turn in 20 skulls, then unlock 30 chests, and then dig up key/chest 40 times.
I’ve been grinding it out as the title and mask are both for character bits. The turn in 30 skulls with open 40 chests just doesn’t make any sense. Not to mention outside of that title there is 0 incentive to go for it. Heck rare needs to make it cost 200k+ in gold. Make it worth the same as a world event, give it anymore incentive to do. I’ve been doing the quest on and off for over the last month. Have only been contested once out of probably 20 soss’.
Tbf Skull of Siren Song was 100% relying on enticing pvp to function as it's challenge. Problem is that the hardcore players chewed through that on the first week and once they were done there was few people who cared enough to contest you.
This is so perfectly said. Bravo. My only fear is it's too late. Speed and commitment outside of apology videos haven't been in rares book for a long time.
This video really hits - I’ve never commented on one of your videos but this one captures the melancholy many of us must feel. As someone who has over 5k hours in the game, I am saddened by the unrealised promise of SoT. The game used to be my go-to but over the last 2 years, I would be lucky to average 1 session every other month. I really do hope the devs take your feedback to heart. It clearly came from a place of respect and admiration for the game many of us love and want to see prosper. Thanks Captain Falcore for this video and for being a voice for the community.
youre disappointed in a game that gave you 5000 hours of enjoyment. i cant imagine the word you use to describe a game you quit in an under an hour. expectations for game devs are insane.
Honestly while I enjoy the pve with my other half in SoT we are terrible at pvp. Meaning we just don't play the game. Really wish you could play without the pvp.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but adding Safer Seas, made me come back to SoT and this time with my wife! What a joy! But not being able to customize your own ship, which you in the end, is the only one who enjoys decorating, is a missed opportunity. I hope the developers will cater more to us, who don't like to fight other players but love what you mentioned, the magical world (and looks and atmosphere) of SoT.
In my opinion, the two biggest issues with this game are the lack of kernel-level anti-cheat and the absence of meaningful PvE content. I was never really drawn to the PvP aspect-not because I couldn't perform well, but because I just couldn't bring myself to care enough to stay invested. I found myself wanting to log out instead. What I really wish for is more challenging PvE content with worthwhile rewards; that would make all the difference for me.
rares #1 issue is that they somehow dont learn. they just keep repeating their mistakes. arena died just for them to show the same lack of care for hourglass, which is now just as dead as arena. and the same thing can be applied to basically anything and everything else that people are complaining about.
@@EddieTheBear It is true! No it isn't! Yes it is! No it isn't! Yes it is! It's not true, you smell! It is true, you smell more! ^ This is how it sounds when you make a statement without offering any kind of supporting argument.
@@Kittari13 just because the hg lfg posts are common in the discord, it doesn't mean hourglass is directly more popular than arena was. if you look around for comments, you'll see how many people want arena back, and i've personally never seen someone talk about how "great" hourglass is, because it is mostly the same thing every fight
i couldnt agree more, pve servers or private servers realistically wont hurt the game at all, just cause u spend hours grinding a skelly ship achivent in live doesnt mean u did anyless grinding in a pve setting , and let be honest what is so bad with players having choices on how they want to play and expeinace the game, havent the deves said for years its a pvpve open world sandbox were players choose how to play, well how can they choose with pvp shoved down the throat. , heck my last major play was during the one adventure and had ppl role up on me calling me names and telling me i was only a slave how is that fun for ppl
@@SennaTheSamurai Simply no. Private servers will hurt a game that's about risk. If you got the same rewards as the high seas, there would be no reason to play the normal mode. As corny this sounds, it wouldn't be a sea of thieves. The toxicity is a different story, but technically, that isn't the games problem. My best advice is to mute other toxic crews.
Why does this video sound like 50 ways to avoid saying what I said before: There is no vision for what this game is supposed to be at Rare. You are being too nice and/or too naive.
What honestly gets me is the fact I boot up the game, try to play solo on a sloop, have a galleon spawn next to me with four players the second I dig up a chest. If I last more than an hour I'll have cleaned one island of loot with a sizable haul only for me to be ganged up on and stuck in a spawn loop being killed while in the spawn animation. To then spend another hour clearing a combat shrine only to be killed after finishing the boss by a group of players and spawn camped by the statue unable to warp to my ship because they can knock me off the hold interact to warp, and they spawn faster than I can fight them off. I'm at the point where I can't earn anything from Safer Seas except reduced gold, but if I try to play the game, the game always spawns me out numbered, out skilled, and down hours of time spent for no reward.
I literally left the game for a long Time for the exact reasons you said many people leave for. And a lot of my friends did as well. You said it way better then anyone of us could have. Hopefully they listen to you. Thanks for being such an amazing guy
I know a few partners who speak up about it on their streams but don't make videos on youtube. Falcore if def not the first one but he is one of the few people who belongs in the list who speaks up about it.
@@mantiemo-8541 that's why I said he is one of the first to do it. The partners that do it on stream don't reach as big of an audience. UA-cam vids about it reach more people
I was an avid player of SoT since the Open Beta. When the game launched I'd recently left an 11-year stint working on a historical replica tall ship quite similar to SoT's galleons. While obviously simplified, I could apply my actual sailing skills and training to the game and be effective. Essentially SoT became my "methadone," easing me off the nautical life I *still* miss now. I soon had a regular group of friends to sail with, but I poured untold hundreds of hours into solo slooping. I just loved sailing around, sightseeing while scoping out beaches for "shinies," and even just hanging out by the rail and watching the waves. My friends have all long, long since moved on -- one of them primarily due to disenchantment with the in-game store- - and I haven't reached 100 Renown for three seasons running. At heart, I'm a solo slooper, and over the years my "squirrel" style of play -- avoiding conflict, rigorous attention to my surroundings, making alliances, and, yes, skillful sailing to escape or frustrate pursuers -- have been *systematically* whittled away. Between inescapable brigandines, hostile players potentially emerging from portals or--even worse--popping out out of the sea right offshore, and the loss of the ultimate denial of satisfaction to enemies--sailing your treasure into the red sea, everything, EVERYTHING is constantly pushing toward confrontation. And if you retreat to Safe Seas, you take a massive hit in rewards, lose out on events, and can't even enjoy, much less improve, your captaincy! Until the Shrouded Ghost entered the game, I obsessively collected every commendation and every possible doubloon. In hindsight, I begrudgingly appreciate the impossibility of finding the Ghost for breaking the game's spell over me. That's when I started drifting away. The game does not *want* me anymore. It wants the toxic "sweatlords," and it's harder and harder to overcome that.
but you point this out to the toxic sweats and they say "GeT GoOd" or "ItS SeA oF ThIeVeS NoT SeA oF FrIeNdS" and call us entitled a-holes when we refuse to be there punching bags
You typed this ... "and the loss of the ultimate denial of satisfaction to enemies--sailing your treasure into the red sea, everything, EVERYTHING is constantly pushing toward confrontation." and you think this is the kind of gameplay content you think Rare wants shown in youtube videos? Youre the kind of player that makes the game look unappealing and boring. How is 'red sea-ing' your loot This post is so telling. You want the experience of safer seas while in High seas and the problem youre having is due to the raw influx of new players.
@ Out of curiosity, which part of “I don’t like engaging the toxic players” and “I don’t think the game wants me as a player anymore” do you feel you’re arguing against here?
Bro wtf are u talking about, as a once insanely competitive sot player I can tell u they hate us. Stop using us as a scapegoat and blame the dev team that continues to fail this amazing game
@@eggwardfr No, it really doesn't hate us. Most of the updates center around finding new ways to steal from people. I get really tired of needing to steal from people (most of the people I find take hours to finish easy tasks, or they give up halfway through), but every time I have a half hour to an hour of free time to play, if I try and do world events or fish inevitably someone comes along and attacks me. Sometimes successfully, usually not. But it's annoying to have a game that focuses on stealing and being stolen from with little to no alternatives.
As a Vanguard who stopped playing a few months ago, thank you for this video. This game above any was my heart. I seemingly lived on this game at times. I have children who were raised playing it. The aim in the start of the game was a Pirate world where we were pushed to get along and meet new people. I met more people on this game than any I can recall in those times. There was a clear focus to PvP. I have no beef with PvP. It helped the game grow. But the players who didn't enjoy it were abandoned. There were story modes and even safer seas that were designed and offered some good content. They had very harsh penalties for anyone who was not going to sail open seas. Open seas became the place where PvP players who were good but not part of the cheaters or top 10 percent in ranking went to PvP. The new game destroyed solo slooping for most. Again, please understand, I like PvP. I just do not like it all the time. If I want to play the game with my 12 year old, I do not want to have to be on a sloop and face 2 Gallys and 2 Brigs in a server who are just seeking PvP, if I wish to try out different new events. I love this game. My experience is not exclusive. I have a list of at minimum 20 plus friends who were daily players and cannot jump on without a 3-4 person crew without being mobbed before completing 1 new event, or even an old one. I love watching PvP. I loved Arena. If we look at this like a sport, 8 out of 10 of the referees calls in the last few years were for PvP modes and incentives. I used to enjoy PvP. Now it is all there is. The content was never expanded because all resources were being applied to matchmaking and regulating PvP scenarios. A good story was forgotten and left behind for streaming views to hype up new events that die after a week or so. And now, PvP is the only streaming content or game modes. Safer Seas was just an expanded tutorial. If PvP is that immensely popular and the PvE, story loving, family folk are that outnumbered, then why not give a full version of safer seas and leave the open seas to the blood thirsty lot? I will tell you why. The story loving, explorative, outgoing, friendly people who have always loved this game are just Chum for the sharks now. The Devs need to chum the waters or PvP modes will continue to die because this game was never enjoyed by the CoD fans until the loyal fans were turned to chum for views and new modes. I have watched this channel and the stream for years. I have never seen Cptn Falcore make fun of someone, spawn camp, be malicious, exploit, or PvP in an unsportsman manner. Thanks for always representing all the players Captain. The lack of meaty content led to PvP being the only reasonable solution to boredom for many. Please do not take this as bitching about the PvP community. I love that base as well. I just wanna see some balance again and maybe some updates that focus on something besides sneaking and murdering eachother. I know pirates are pirates. I expect some skullduggery. But I do miss this game when it was balanced and fun for all. Mad love to all players and I hope your sessions are long, fruitful, and without crashes. May the wind be with ya.
I thought that for a while too, Rare needs to pick a lane. I remember when captaincy was added with captain quests just for captain quests to very quickly be removed in favor of the new quest system that's missing half of the options we had previously. Rare, why did you remove the mercenary voyages when Guilds are the perfect emissary for doing them
I came back after a long long break and was honestly disheartened by the new voyage system, no more chapters, no more diverse loot pools or island variation, if it's a high level voyage it's big islands, low level, small islands, it lost a lot of character I feel, but it was all towards the effort of speeding the process up which is kind of nice
I'm surprised yall are still playing this game. Even though it looks visually spectacular, and believe me this game has one the best graphics to date still. But the problem for me is in the game's core gameplay loop. As the Actman once said, "All you're doing is taking a chest from island A and then sailing it to island B to get some cosmetics. That's it's
Could they bring back the arena but using the hourglass/portal mechanics? You vote for arena but continue playing the game, once 5 crews are matched you all dive for a 20 minute PVP battle, once it over you all sink and respawn on new maps…… gold being paid out to the winner
@@Tjerty I could be wrong, but I'm not sure you're understanding their suggestion. They're not saying vote for arena and immediately dive into queue like hourglass. They're trying to say that you could vote to play arena and continue sailing until there are enough players for an arena fight. Personally, I think it's better than the current hourglass queue, but it would also be really frustrating if you were in the middle of a fight or an event when your arena queue went off, and you lost everything. I'm sure there are flaws with this idea too, but I think the original idea of putting everyone into the sea dog tavern is still the best idea, but I think (much like ships) it needs some minigames (cards or a board game or something) to keep people entertained.
@@laserbeamblock8169in that case, suggestion is even worse and would never work. being able to sail normally while in queue would cause so many problems and would ruin both queue time and normal adventure mode.
And I'll add to this saying they could also have A deathmatch mode where you don't use your boats A map designed for people to run around and shoot each other on so many people enjoy that aspect of the game and want other people to do it. But this would be a way for them to partake in what they want without bothering people trying to fish
I'd only want one thing in this game: having the option to choose to avoid random, unwanted, forced pvp. In other words, being able to have the full experience and full features & rewards in Safer Seas. That's all I'd ask for.
@@Hadeks_Marow hell, servers where the only PvP is hourglass. sort of a 'defacto PvE server' where PvP is opt-in only. (perhaps make that adventure mode, and make the current "PvP enabled all the time" into 'elite mode' or something. so you can do solo/single group play in safer seas, go multiplayer with optional PvP matching for adventure, or full risk on Elite maps.)
@@glitterboy2098 Nah, the biggest problem with PvE players is that they don't think they are good at PvP and that they can't get good at PvP so it's not worth bothering. And then thusly hate it when it's forced upon them. Often times the line between "i don't enjoy the PvP" and "I'm not good at the PvP" is muddied and blurred. One confused for the other, or the other assumed due to the former. The fact of the matter is most players don't have a place to "become" better. A structured environment for "practice", "learning" and "improvement". I think 50% of the players who currently despise PvP won't have such an issue against it if they had room to grow at it. Trust me, you can get good at it and still hate it (I'm one of them), but ultimately majority of the time alot of the hate comes from having no control over your own play session. I think because there is that blurred line of "don't enjoy" vs "not good at", it's not exactly appropriate to fix the game for the "don't enjoy" until we bolden that line to better make it clear on who is who. That means making entering the PvP space more accessible/approachable to the newer and more skittish pirates out there. That's why safer seas where you could have friends teach you in privet would be such a good thing. It'd be a controlled environment with people you trust. That's the goal. To give players every assistance to not be bad before they write things off entirely.
@Hadeks_Marow any system where I can lose hours of grinding to a dude who just logged on with a better internet connection ain't for me I already work full time but at least I get a check to show for it at the end of the week for that reason I un-installed
My biggest issue is that griefers have seemed to get worse. I didnt even leave the tavern before getting shot in the back, multiple times. This isnt GTA or RDR2. Its getting annoying.
agreed, thats why i never really got into the game 9 times out of ten i get killed before i can even get some cannon balls or food off the starting island and get to my ship, the other one time i get sunk by people camping the outpost.
All due respect the game is pve/pvp. It says so from the start ajd the name even implies it. They are not "griefers". They are just playing the game. Not saying it is not annoying but it is how the game was meant to be.
I agree with the sentiment, there are plenty of things to do, but for people that have played for years, we have nothing, and when something new is added, we finish it soon and then we are with nothing new to do again. Plus there are events and prizes that leave out many countries as we're not able to participate :( I really hope they find a steady course. Oh, and I really miss when you had to actually DO something to earn the rewards in some events (grogmanay, halloween, etc.), now you just have to login to get them.
Sorry brother, it was barely used by the player base and was a huge drain on server resources. Unfortunately, it's not worth it, unless they find a way to make it much smaller/simpler
Literally me today, I was working on Cursed Rogue as a solo and a brig rolled up on me just after I got to the island with the chest. No emissary flag yet they figured I had Fort Knox chilling below deck. Most who want the PvP don't want the challenge of PvP, they just want to steam roll someone who is chilling minding their own business. It's why I wish Rare would just give us proper private servers that we the community can run and lock behind passwords so only friends can join in.
Sometimes when I play I just sit at an outpost watching the beauty of this game and thinking about anything and everything, something I can only do in this specific game.
I know the server issues arent the main part of why sea of thieves is the way it is right now, but they do impact my gameplay quite significantly. I started the grind for the skeleton curse and ive had my boat randomly jump, saw things on the enemy ship that werent there (for example a broken mast, or the enemy ship being turned a different way), or even saw players seemingly teleport onto my ship
I played Sea of thieves for a bit with a friend, but it just lacked a depth that we were both looking for. We love our long progression based live-service games, and all the content in Sea of Thieves felt like it had this... lack of depth? A lot of content starts and ends really quickly, while not having a lot of connecting tissue between them. Plus the rewards just being gold doesn't feel that great because you just buy cosmetics with them. Now I understand that's a design choice by the developers, that a 1 hour player and a 500 hour player functionally have no difference, but it really was a turn off to have a big, tense voyage with all of our loot, only to cash it in for... what felt like nothing?
I usually get into the game for a few weeks about once a year these days. Been playing since 2018. Last time playing was October of 2023. Getting back into it in December 2024 it's absolutely wild the difference. The lag. The plethora of bugs. The completely dead game unable to break 10k congruent players in steam. Good thing they keep prioritizing micro transactions! Soon their play base will be so negligent nothing they can do will bring it back. The focus on the ancient coins store was the downfall of this game. They stopped caring about a decent game when they started adding the pets. They ONLY WANTED TO MILK US FOR OUR MONEY LIKE CATTLE.
I’d argue that the performance has started reaching a tipping point for a large portion of the dedicated player base. Look at how many of the community enjoyed Sand in its completely bug riddled state just because we are used to it. Even opening up crates and barrels has become a slog, I’m not even worried about hit reg, but there was a time where the water wasn’t even working….in a boat game.
I wish gold had more use than just cosmetics. Maybe they could add the ability to sacrifice speed for more armor, sacrifice armor for more fire power etc. Kinda like call of duty classes where you have a certain amount of slots you can fill with different equipment. Also more sea creatures to hunt. And a social hub in game would be cool.
I feel with SoT 2 Rare can take inspiration from Bungie with Destiny expansions. I know many don’t like Destiny, but with destiny we knew exactly what we’re getting and what to be excited about whether it be new raids or dungeons and open worlds. SoT as an open world game could easily benefit from this and have events that change the map from season to season with story implications.
As a veteran, it breaks my heart to see what was once my favorite game become unplayable. So many factors have ruined this game for me and all of my friends. R.I.P SoT 😔
I agree, I left recently because I was sick of the game and the game at least right now is NOT fun anymore and it breaks my heart because I loved this game and knowing Rare, they are stubborn to the bitter end.
I can’t even play sea of thieves anymore. I took a week break from sot to finish red dead II(best story game I’ve ever played.) and try cod bo6. Playing a fps like cod after playing sot is like going from a hand-me-down rinky-dink tricycle to a lambo. I can’t even describe my recent experiences with sot. Moving around the environment becomes a task with sot. The gun play is completely nonsensical with the whole delay between weapon switching. I have taken many breaks in my time with sot but I don’t think I’ll be returning from this one and it’s not like I wanted to take a break. The game has just whittled away to unplayable and the devs can’t help but make it worse every single update. I’ve accomplished most of my goals in sot and just trying to play it for fun isn’t the same anymore. I used to blame it on my Xbox one but even with my series x I realize it really is just not worth any time. It kinda hurts to say that too because I love sot and for the longest time that was the game that I could always fall on if another game got boring. Now it’s just nothing. I don’t even know what they need to do but whatever it is they have to do it quick because if they don’t, people will stop playing and Microsoft will kill it. Sot has unlimited potential and they seriously should capitalize on it because right now it is still just a concept.
I just started a few days ago and yes, I’m not noticing any of the issues yet, but finding out only 5 ships are ever around at one time made it feel kinda empty and closed instead of this vast, sprawling sea filled with pirates of all types. There’s also the experienced players jumping the newer ones here and there, but I found that didn’t upset me as much, especially since I had no more than the starting resources lol
problem with sot is that Rare wont accept anything and the person that makes most of the key decisions about the game likely doesent even play it. Sea of Thieves needs Reform.
Truely hope they can bring the excitement of exploration back. The unknown was what it did for me, however I now know every pebble on every beach after years of playing.
I am playing twice a week, since the launch. In the beginning almost daily, but other games exist. And honestly, I am pretty happy right now with the general content delivery. The sandbox has enough content for anyone, even veterans like me, to do. I am still missing some veil voyages, Siren Song can be done while traveling to other means, just like any bottled quests who are actually worth the effort now, same goes for the shipwrecks. The meg is attacking again (I remember times when it almost never showed up for months) and holds loot worth the effort, although we usually ignore it because we are on the way to even better means most of the time. The new weapons are fun to use and shake up the meta, just as intended, the harpoon gun is a fun a fast travel item on islands. Session 14 brought enough new content even after disabling the tuck emotes and traps, and if these are delivered ongoing troughout the session, that is an even better release circle than one big bang once every 3 months. Yes, sometimes the game lags at the moment, but what games doesn't? They come, they go, that is a circle troughout the years. A patch fixes many lags, a new session brings new lags, a patch fixes them. Common live service game routine. It happened more often than usual, but that's why they are building a whole new team just for that. And that takes time to take effect, that team needs to learn first. Do not expect any big impacts in the first 6 months. I play this game twice a week for some years now, and I never really felt like the game is more unstable or less playable than any other game. I still prefer it over most other multiplayer games in this genre with the friends I play it with. It is the perfect game for our crew still.
I agree. I can only imagine that the views in the video are only true for those who play hours and hours every day of their lives. Of course you're going to get bored or disappointed after all that time. Playing twice a week or so (which actually seems like a lot to me) is going to keep the "honeymoon period" going for longer. I've been playing about that amount (sometimes more) since 2020, and I still have fun with the game. I feel like there's always stuff to do, old and new. I'm amazed that this game that I only had to buy *once* four years ago (for less than the price of only one night at the movies with the family) keeps re-inventing itself and becoming a new game every few months, while also maintaining the same essential feel it originally did, the world of Sea of Thieves that I first fell in love with. I dunno. I'm just some dude. My first game video game to play was Pong in the 1970s, and I thought Zelda II was the end-all of video games when it came out in 1987. That a game like Sea of Thieves even exists blows my mind. It's the only game that made me watch videos about it and become fans of Falcore, Fuzzy, Hitbo, Kraken, and the rest. I feel like I'm both the audience for these videos (since I enjoy them so much) but also absolutely not the audience for these videos (since they often confuse me).
I got the game a year ago. I've already stopped playing. The instability goes far deeper than new season lags. I've been stuttering and rubberbanding since shortly after I started playing.
As a casual player myself, I can see both sides. But for me, like you, there are tons for me to do. I've been grinding OOS since 2022 and absolutely loving it. Since my laptop died, I haven't been playing since mid season 12 so I cannot say anything about the instability. And the new and added quests was a much needed refresh, the trinkets you get from skeleton lords (the voodoo dolls and the gally ship toys) are some of my favorite loot along with the orbs. There is still tons for us casuals to do. But I understand that those who are able to play this game religiously can feel like they're forgotten (complete all 5 It's a Pirates Life and accomodations within one day for example) but I think that's why when Captaincy came out the grind was so high and ludicrous for us casuals was to keep the hardcore religious players happy bc the grind is higher. As for gilds, I'm not sure how to fix that. I have like 3-4 friends that I occasionally play with so we have our own gold that's mixed with a SOT community and my own. So the 25 player limit isn't even full. But I get that there are sub sot communities that are larger than that. I know Rare won't do it, but if there was a way to like have 2 ships of the same guild on servers (like brig sloop or gally and sloop) could add some insensitive. Like 6 ships on the server 3 different guilds at max on the server. (Duly noted idk the max server size of player ships and types rn). How this would work, is probably like dives in Hourglass. Like you go to the captain table and a little pop up on the captains book will say like "Another ship on your guild is currently playing, dive to join them?" And you can either accept for deny. If you accept, dive like normal and you pop up in the server several squares away from the other guild ship that way either you can team up to do world events or other voyages. But I do agree that they need to bring back the little events like community day back. Like when the trade routes were introduced and they had extra rewards and xp if you were a merchant or a reaper. That was fun. Do more of those!
@@FlorianOellerich no one’s arguing about the content being low. Theres lot to do for casual players, but you are delusional if you don’t see any bugs every session. The waves desync infront of you all the time, PvP is more inconsistent than ever and the amount of game breaking bugs forced rare to rollback the entire update
As someone who bought sea of thieves 3 days ago, I already love the game a lot but I can definitely see its flaws. For me it feels slightly lacking in content due to the unique progression style of the game, but the biggest problem I can think of for me is the guns not firing and the black screening. The hourglass game mode is full of sweats who destroy me and my friends, but when we go to the normal mode my friends get bored because we can’t find people. Whenever I do find people I’m solo slooping and get boarded and sunk super easily (partly due to my lack of skill and also partly due to the fighting mechanics). The ability to one shot with the blunderbuss is cool but I can never get it off due to the gun not shooting or my aim being trash. Yet when I don’t get sweats in my lobby trying to kill me, I can get all the treasure I want without a challenge (which makes it feel invaluable), but then it doesn’t mean much due to the uselessness of gold apart from cosmetics. I understand why they allow everyone the same weapons, but I also feel like it is one of the reasons why gold doesn’t feel as valuable as it should. Moral of the story is that I like the game and want to play it with friends, but the bugs are frustrating and my friends aren’t fans of the progression style so they don’t play often.
Don't have an opinion if you're a new player Thats how we got here in the first place Keep your mouth shut until you have at least 100 days played of pure pvp Than have an opinion
@@FederalEmployee Don't have an opinion based on pure PvP. New player input is important, they see what the new player experience is, and if that experience is bad, then all the new players leave and the game gets doomed for good. The game is intended to be a mixture of PvP and PvE, a big world where simple systems can clash and tangle, and while playing it purely as PvP is plenty valid, sections of the playerbase alienating the rest of them without a view of the bigger picture is how we _actually_ got here. Sea of Thieves has not been beginner-friendly for quite some time, unfortunately, and as much as a big part is the gameplay, another big part of that is its community.
Thank you, Falcore. I am finding less joy as time progresses with this game and I had not fully connected until you summarized it so well. My son and I would pay a couple or times a week. It now feels like we play a couple times a month. He is very sensitive to the lack of continuity and bugginess of game, which then turns me off since I'm looking to just play and have fun with him. For me, I hate spending a few hours playing to be as worried about a glitch as being attached by some random player. At times I wish we could back in time...
In my opinion they should delay updates until they are ready but if its the xbox one that is holding the game back I'm am a xbox one user and i love the game and if the xbox one is the problem it needs to be discontinued so everyone else can enjoy the game i know some people would be mad hell I'll be sad but its the best for the game and the player base
It's alright Falcore, there's no need to worry about this video being a little sombre, sometimes we just need a moment of sadness to let the bad flow so we can move on with our lives. And you're video certainly has done that for me. I've been playing for so many years, grinding commendations with fellow pirates, trying new things with each update, but my favourite thing about this game was exploring the lore and world changes with YOU and so many other chroniclers. Thank you for being my inspiration to play this game, every step of the way. Here's hoping the future will be brighter for this game and even if it doesn't, it won't take away the good memories we all had. p.s. since everyone else is suggesting their ideas for what they want, so I'll suggest mine. But not here, I'll post my idea in a reply to this comment.
Alright, my idea for the game. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'd like adventures to come back. I think they switched things up between seasons, but I have to agree, the time-limited/monthly system didn't help adventures last long, so I suggest they make them event based: say an event rolls up introducing a world change, one or two even three adventures could be added to explain why said world change is occurring and maybe add some lore. This could alternate between main story tie-ins events the would be replayed later on and random reoccurring events that would pop up occasional to keep the game, you could even have seasonal event tied to events like Festival of the Damned, Giving, fight night and more. But how would your replay some adventures? Umbra, she would have met other chronicles who've set up shop on every outpost and you can visit them replay a previous adventure, either by gaining temporary access to the Sea of the Damned to experience the events for yourself, the Sea of the Damned being a land of memories after all or they're give you a ferryman's lantern to visit the islands and relive the events without too much of the hassle. If they won't make new adventures, they could at least use this method to bring back the old ones so newcomers can experience and understand the story. But that's just my idea. Think what you will of it.
I played Sea Of Thieves regularly since launch. It was great seeing it evolve and expand over the years, and it was even better enjoying those experiences with friends. But there was only so much I could take dealing with progressively worse performance and entire sessions wasted engaged with other crews who'd never fully commit to a fight. I lost interest about two or three months ago, and I have no intention of going back any time soon, if at all.
My friends and I played this game CONSTANTLY for 2 weeks when it hit PS5, but the fact that you can ONLY spend your gold on cosmetics felt crap. We gave up on the game. Let us customise/upgrade our ship - add more cannons, move the harpoons around, etc.
I realy like the idea of Sea of thieves, and come back to it a few times a year. But overall, it seems like nothing realy matters in the game. Specially when I'm doing something solo. Hell.. I'm playing Elite Dangerous and there thing I do on my own seem to have more impact... Grind Dangerous! has this! So then when friends join it's double the fun. While Sea of Thieves is mostly only "fun" with friends
Captain Falcore The Movie Episode 7 “Don’t worry, I have connections” Mr. Falcore said. Captain Falcore flew away to old faithful island (his favorite island). There he found strange inhabitants. They were beautiful, and they were buccaneers. “Perfect” caption falcy said as he kissed their moist belly buttons. “Come with me” he said. They walked to the water, but suddenly, fishstick (from Fortnite) grabbed one of the buccaneers from the water and dragged him down. His screams of agony ceased as his lungs filled with water, ripping the life from his now cold, limp body. “Oh no!” The falcon man said! “Everyone hide in your sea of thieves season 14 chest disguises!” It didn’t work. The Fortnite was getting closer. Captain Falcore must use a dark power, one he swore never to use again. Captain falcon cranked 90s. He thought he was winning, but the Fortnite was a dexterous adversary. He too was building. Soon the build battle encompassed the entirety of old faithful island. The Falconman had no choice but to detonate the nuclear bomb on old faithful island. Old faithful was destroyed, and symbolically destroying the mob’s faith in the falcon man. They wanted their money back, and they wanted it back now.
I know a lot of people say that they are making a Sea of Thieves 2 but I don’t think that would work due to the fact lots of people have put money and time into the current game. They will probably start to add a new version of the game in which you can spend gold to get better/more powerful items. Making there a better reason to make gold rather than just cosmetics
Quit back when the Disney PoTC update released and never looked back. My main problem was as a pvp game, the pvp mechanics sucked ass. The ship Combat was great when it happened but the 1.5 hours of chasing a random sloop to engage combat the first place was annoying. The game and devs heavily favored camping and toxic behaviors that literally any other game out there were against
they mass banned hundreds of players in 2020 over a single on-stream spawn camping incident, simply not true from you. they needed to up ships per server cap, put a cooldown on server hopping, and shut down alliance servers. all kinda irrelevant tho since its inevitable, the devs changed their vision of the game halfway through and polarized their playerbase while trying to give the game a story and not expanding on the risk/reward looting and retention incentives like world events and unique encounters
what the game needs is dedicated pve servers. there's far too big a divide between those who love pvp, and those who wanna play this game as an island-hopping, pirate adventure game. the combat is buggy as all hell, and if you ask me, isn't even that good a system in the first place.
For me it is cheaters. Nothing is done to combat them. I remember doing hourglass, and right after we matched but before the surfacing, enemy clown spawns directly on my ship and start running and killing us while we are still immobile. Peak gaming
Ive been playing this game for 6 years, watching this game slowly wither away hurts me because I love this game. The only reason Ive played for so many years, through all the problems and let downs, is because this game has a soul, it offers an experience that no other game can ever offer. But the final straw was when they rolled back this last season. I was excited, I wanted to use these new tools, and then half didnt make it into live, and the other were pulled, leaving us with worse performance, and nothing new. I will be retiring my sea legs until rare does meaningful fixes to not only the game, but their development cycle. Something I have little hope for.
I’m seeing a lot of people talking about g about arena, I didn’t have the game during arena days, but I feel like an easy solution would be to make it similar to hourglass, but imagine a system where you get a bigger circle than hourglass pvp, but you also get different mini game modes (capture the flag, but it’s a skull or something, naval TDM, on foot TDM) with just a set timer before the game switches, you can use the “scuttle and change seas” to get back to adventure, and make it so new players are constantly able to join, so the smaller a server is, say 6 galleons worth of players max, you’re still part of your crew, but it divides teams to make them as fair as possible, and the fewer players on a server, the higher priority it has to get more players to join. TLDR: So it’s just a constant rotation of games with balanced teams and the ability for anyone to join at any time, and their ship will just pop up like it’s hourglass, leaving using a crew vote
Thank you SOT!! I had an incredible addiction to your game. I had 140+days invested. Got so frustrated I lost interest. I couldn’t find another game to take its place. I started walking after work back in the spring. I have lost nearly 35 pounds over the summer. This past weekend I summited three peaks in Acadia National Park. I admired the actual sea. Not being a smart ass. Genuinely thankful.
Arena could be a PVP area around Sea Dog Tavern and have it a king of the Hill type capture and hold mechanic. Not a separated instanced thing like the Arena used to be. Make it worth more for smaller ships to hold and have seasonal rewards alongside the Plunder Pass to make it fresh. People not as savvy with PVP can avoid it and it may also make Reaper's Hideout a little more spicy to turn in at too. The entire center of the map would become PVP focused yet still an open sandbox as a whole. And please Rare, do something with The Devil's Roar. Make it worthwhile to go there again. Ashen Chest of Fortune or something at Molten Sands. Make it player activated like FotD (maybe with a cooldown so it can't be stacked/farmed)
I personally don't usually comment or even express my opinion, but I truly want to speak up in regards to the whole situation. Personally I'm dreadfully bored of the map, it's the same points of interests, the same waves, the same slow boring wind. It's my second favorite game of all time right behind dayz. Come to think of it now... imagine Sea Of Thieves + modding community...endless possibilities
One interesting things about SOT and other lore following games in how the story changes and evolves over time, which then updates the world. You then have new and returning players who miss that more simplistic original story and mechanics which made it accessible and engaging. I come back every few months and have to get up to speed with everything, where I'd rather continue tall tales etc.
I have NEVER met a SINGLE person who isn't a content creator or isn't a die-hard SoT player who actually likes talltales. They are boring, require the player to engage in "reading" and "puzzle solving". The pacing is slow. The story is uninteresting. The actual "cinematics" are only cool in a vacuum, which we don't live in and are very small/nothing special when compared to most other games cinematics/set-pieces (mostly referring to single player games). To the casual player, there is nothing enjoyable about talltales. People hear "pirate game" and they come for swashbuckling and ship battles. And then they join just to find out it's just a First-Person Shooter with in-your-face gunplay _(worst kind of gunplay)_ where the shootouts might as well be in a school hallway (cause the ships are small and no cover/room for movement). The biggest problem is SoT has an identity crisis. That's why it doesn't have anything really to do. It wants to be a Pirate Game but its pirate combat might as well be CoD/CoD zombies. It wants to be a PvP game but the PvP scares players off because the combat mechanics are annoying so rare disincentifies it by PvE events and making the ships annoying to stock supplies with and have only 5 ships per server max. It wants to be a PvE game but has no sense of progression because they don't want to make the game unbalanced for PvP so all reward are cosmetics, regardless of if you already locked in the look for everything or not. It wants to be a sandbox but the sandbox is kinda just. . . underwhelming where most you can actually do to effect the world is just "loot" and "kill very VERY basic AI programming". All of this combined with commendations that are designed to be tedious because the one thing this game ACTUALLY wants to be is a games-as-a-service/live-service title, which, itself, isn't an actual form of "identity".
@@ninjagrayfox166 Yeah, but that's not the same as engaging with the main game. It's the equivalent of only playing minecraft when it has cross-over tie-in events on bedrock with ben 10, transformers or mario. You aren't legitimately playing minecraft at that point as it simply isn't what the game is about if that's the only medium you engage by. This topic is referring to actual players of the game. "Single Person" refers to "of the core playerbase". A non-statistical datapoint; not part of the topic.
@@Hadeks_Marow When I was playing i bought the season pass & several skin packs, so I was contributing to the game. Keep gatekeeping your dying game, we'll see how that goes for ya.
As they said in one of the previous videos, they do not care about fixing the game it doesn't bring new players, old fashion players like us are completely forgotten by the devs and shows how they give a shit about their community, Removing arena was till this day the shittiest decision they took
i hop in every few months, get sunk while doing some quest then wait for a different pirate game better suited to what i want, it never arrives and the cycle continues
I quit playing when I was being attacked by a player ship, the Kraken spawned around us and pulled every crew member off the ship, and a ghost ship and Meg spawned, all within 30 seconds.
The community and rare are the most disconnected after, found that out today on reddit -_-. The hard way. When we ask lore we get server mess, and we we ask server improvement dear are deaf it seems like, time to play nice is over... let show theam we real Pirates!
Truth. I'm starting to lose faith that they will add good content. They've spent sooo much time on now dead things. I feel like we're going backwards. How sad is it that the skeleton thrones are more impactful than 50% of what they've added since then.... It's bad, real bad
I’m a day one player and sadly I don’t play anymore. 😢 the magic of the game is gone. I rarely have an interaction with anyone. It takes 45 minutes of diving to find anyone doing anything. I miss the old sot
this is my only problem. if i could at least just hop in and see a thriving sever filled with people, id actually want to try and avoid people or maybe fight them but atm the choice is gone. you sail around for so long its not a choice or other players choices its just there is a fight finally and you have been waiting to see anyone for 30 minutes
I started playing SoT around August of 2020. Everyone was locked in and my friends had told me about it, so I bought it and began playing with them. I was very quickly whisked away by the wonders of this world, having the insane experience of being shown the Pirate Legend hideout on day one, by a guy who was still wearing sailor clothes. It took me a while to pick up on the ways of the world beneath the simple-seeming voyages, but once I had figured it out the game kept me for about three years. I've poured hundreds of hours into the game, and while I wasn't ever the best and missed out on plenty of major events, I still felt like I had a place. Once the seasons were added, with captaincy, and even the newer collaboration tall tales, the game started to lose its charm. I'm still enamored with the original world, the four regions with the pirate lord tall tales, the deep sea exploration of uncharted islands like k-9 and whatever the other one was. Hell, I had the entire map memorized for a good while, being able to tell what an island was from a good distance. I loved sailing around, even though it became tedious. Now that diving exists? I feel like it takes away from the world I once knew. That was something only shown off by skeleton ships, vessels of the dead surfacing to tear you and your ship a new one. But now it was as simple as penning a destination down on your table? It feels wrong, looking at all the new things. I wasn't excited for the newer weapons either. The core four weapons felt like a solid foundation that didn't and shouldn't need expansion. (That part is just my opinion, as is all of this, but I'm truly not fond of the expansion on weapons even though I love weapon variety in other games). I uninstalled the game October of this year, once I saw that they added what to me looked like stealth emotes, where you could move around in a chest or barrel. It felt wrong already having the ability to dress in all black and lay down in a tiny nook on a ship, but to me that seemed like a different level of just... unsavory gameplay. I'm out of touch now, for the most part, with Sea of Thieves, but occasionally gameplay pops up in my feeds. It just looks so different from what I used to know. Especially with whatever the grappling harpoon is. I loved this game a lot. I still love its world. But it feels bloated now. Even things that should be considered part of the game, such as the expansions on the reapers hideout and legend hideout seem odd, the hourglass parts of it at least. The game feels barred to me, especially as a solo player. I'm not good with combat, never have been with this game, but it feels as though those who didn't experience arena with friends or do bloodlusted voyages got left behind when it comes to pvp. Or I'm just bad, which is probably the case, but it doesn't help that pvp was only pushed and pushed and pushed into the game more and more with all the quality of life editions that made things faster. It seemed as though Rare wanted people to enjoy less of the scenery and world and instead they wanted people to just fight. I think the true death of my love for the game itself was the Monkey Island tall tale series. Linear stories in games is something I love, I've replayed plenty of stories and campaigns because I enjoyed the singleplayer aspect and world building most provide. But those tall tales shattered me. And only a portion of it was due to the content. I think the actual activities were fine, but I found the overall tall tales to feel soulless and draining to play through. It didn't feel like I was playing a game with them. Those left the worst taste in my mouth before I departed, due to how unfinished they felt compared to the rest of the game, especially the tall tale series that came before. Anyway, if you've taken the time to read all that, thank you. I would like to tack on a reminder that I still love the world of SoT. It's beautiful, it has and hopefully always will be, but the game is starting to get bloated. I missed out on many things, and perhaps that's why I can't bring myself to stick around like other veterans of the game, even if I'm only a veteran by time and not skill. But the world and concepts have stuck with me, and will stick with me. Rare made an amazing world, a truly unique experience that I will be hard pressed to see replicated on the seas in a similar format. I don't want it to die out, so I thank those of the old community, the only real lifeblood the game has in its playerbase. You folks are those that keep this ship afloat, even if our captains are a little misguided now.
I started played in 2020 and stopped in 2024. Got tired of the constant lies about improved performance and bug squashes. Didn't like the fact that Rare started pandering to the ADHD, PVE only crowd instead of the players who kept them afloat for years. Don't expect improvements, they're not coming.
"ADHD crowd" that's the perfect way of summing them up. Whenever I go into open crew I can tell who only plays pvp, because they will endlessly sprint around the ship or run around and shoot you, and I just want to ask them, how's that ADHD doing ya?
SoT was Rare's attempt to defy the image of your typical GaaS game. I think for the most part they've always made it stand out and showed passion in ways that felt unique. Those first 3-4 years felt really special but I just don't think games like this, published in an industry such as the one we have right now, have a net positive effect on its dev studio. I genuinely don't know if SoT is good for Rare anymore. I don't know if the GaaS model is good for Rare anymore. All of this feels like a short sighted model that doesn't benefit generation spanning support from a single developer, who used to have a reputation for their vast and diverse catalogue of colorful games. Every pirate emporium update feels like a last resort effort to keep their doors open and to keep Xbox at bay for another year. Every season feels like an entire team of people struggling to re-invent support for the foundation of something that already exists, when that same time could've been spend creating something new and special. I miss the old Rare. I don't miss it the way that old Banjo or DKC fans miss it. I miss it for the sake of those developers that have so much potential and shouldn't be confined to an online game that hasn't felt unique since roughly 10 fotm like Lethal Company. I don't even need a new Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong Country, Viva Pinata or Grabbed By The Ghoulies. I don't even need Yooka-Laylee. I just want Rare to make "Rareware". I wanna see the passion and diversity of this studio again.
i'm gonna be honest, i disagree with most of your points (as usual). you say the playerbase aren't the ones getting bored, the developers are, then turn around and say the updates are shallow and don't bring enough content to the game. this game has SO MUCH content already - there is NOTHING stopping ANYONE from playing and enjoying the content for literal YEARS. the ONLY thing to be worried about with SoT are the performance issues and bugs/delays with majour updates - both of which could be easily fixed by shifting majour content updates away from being synced with Season releases. keep Seasons around, and monthly patches with Emporium and Outpost drops, but release the actual content updates whenever they're ready instead of tying it directly to seasons
Mate you are delusional, many voyages are just copy paste, many world events are a cake walk, towards end game the only real viable thing to do is fotd and honestly the community is full of arseholes just out there to ruin other people their days
Thing is that the content isn't very meaningful. All activities like Sea Forts or Treasure Vaults are pretty shallow and locked behind easy to solve puzzles. Not to mention that a lot of activitiws feel samey
Its 113 GB now. And you dont feel it. 6 years and I finally pulled the plug and uninstalled. The state of the game is terrible. New features and shit they add are meaningless if the servers suck and you're stuttering around and not enjoying the experience. We're still locked at 5 (or 6 is it? They change this constantly without telling) ships per server. They even lowered the spawning so you cant get full galleons anymore. It will be a mix of mostly sloops and maybe a brig or galley if you're lucky. They overpowered the sloop and made the multi-crew Galleon a slog. I dunno. Imo, Id rather pay for or have them launch Sea of Thieves 2: -UE 5.5 -Bigger world. -Better ships. -Better ship customization -A social hub where players can dock their ships, play games (poker/dice - gamble), form crews, socialize, advertise for guilds. -Bigger guilds (wtf were they thinking at a 24 player cap or whatever? My guild has to run 3 just to keep people in). -Guild only activities. Drop the low-gen support. The old xbox prolly wont run this game as well anyways. The biggest problem they made for themselves was water physics. Its why everything is bottlenecked. And its a shame. Hope UE 5.5 upgrade could help them with that.. But they wont do it. Cause I guess Microsoft doesnt care?
I'm sorry, but all I am hearing is: "I'm a veteran of the game, I have poured thousands of hours into the game, but now I am bored and you haven't put in anything new for me so I am sad."
Right, no game can stand up to people who literally make it their job to play it every day for years upon years. The solution is to touch grass. That's not what this video is about though, it's more about Rare not sticking to a lane
I put 5k+ hours into the game between 2019 and 2022 however over the past couple years but I've completely stopped playing because I grew tired of the lack of performance based fixes (hit reg), gradual removal of skill gap in PvP and their handling of Arena. Saw this come across my recommended and I'm glad a prominent figure is trying to raise some of these issues and more that have plagued the game for years. Often see posts come across my twitter feed about the deteriorating state of the game and it's really sad not much has changed since I stopped playing. I hope they manage to turn things around but I lost any faith in Rare a long time ago and have just accepted the game will never fulfil it's potential.
Here’s the REAL PROBLEM: “We will never make a PvE only option” *Rare hires DEI team* “Safer Seas will be a great way to include EVERYONE”. Meanwhile, the seas are emptier than ever. *Rare makes every previous exclusive cosmetic available to everyone*. Players feel completely betrayed in a game where cosmetics are everything. *Rare’s new DEI hires and initiatives allow under qualified devs to make spaghetti code even more broken instead of hiring highly capable and experienced devs to make the game better. All in the name of “equality”. Crazy. Just make a good game like you did when you had different priorities. Don’t push other agendas.
I miss Sea of Thieves, but either my computer is crap (possible - it was good when I built it in 2020, but technology marches on), or instability/performance issues is affecting me more than anything, because trying to sail makes me feel something akin to seasickness because of the flickering frames of the sea. I miss when the sea was smooth and beautiful for me.
I really appreciate YOU. Captain! One of the biggest OGs in the game. I just ranted to chap about this. So thankful to hear you bring up the veterans, we need something! The majority hasn't felt the appreciation that we used to. This is our favorite game and will always be bugs and all. It's just not the same as it used to be.
Man o man, I literally was almost going to cry with this one Captain Falcore, as you hit the nail on the head, and with that background music it was perfect. I feel exactly the same with everything you mentioned for a game which I have loved for the past almost 7 years and still adore until this day! I for one will not give up on SOT, but hope the developers take your feedback and many others to heart and fix their game once and for all....
The fact that someone can say "quality of life update" like it's an insult is revolting to me. That's my favorite kind of update! I'd much rather have all those tiny annoyances relieved, little details reworked and improved, and overall feel upgraded than the big flashy bullshit that doesn't even work half the time or simply doesn't fit my preferences/playstyle, making me sit on the sidelines abandoned with my cozy little content while everyone's drooling over the new stuff, simply because it's new.
Played at launch, noticed the Monkey Island-esque world and loved it. I was a big Monkey Island fan in the early 90's. Grew tired pretty quickly and didn't play for years. Now my Son is about to turn 8 and saw "this cool pirate game" and would you believe it there's a Monkey Island homage expansion. I am in! It's breathed a whole new lease of life into the game, particularly watching my Son enjoy a game, kind of, I adored as a kid. So I fall once again into the new player bracket and I love it.
I've been considering this video idea for a few months now. Although the subject matter could be seen as negative, please understand that I, and many others, genuinely love this game - that's why we're so frustrated. My views are fair and not intended to incite anger. I kindly ask that the comments section remain civil.
Throw a *like* and *sub* if you like!
thx,this is exactly why i left for a unknown period of time
I know you’re an official partner but it’s sad you have to pander and hold back on the straight forward opinions you and many of us have. The game is a travesty at this point. I mourn the wasted potential. I am frustrated at the fact emporium gets priority over smoother gameplay, bug corrections and cheat removal.
You should be able to objectively criticize Rare without fear of them retaliating. I know it’s in their nature to ban and silence people who dare suggest Rare could be doing better… but for about a year now (since HG released) I haven’t seen anything from Rare that tells me they are prioritizing the gaming experience. They are wholly incompetent.
You recently made a video about Rare no longer communicating consistently with its player base. That is, in a nutshell, the crux of the issues. Promises aren’t delivered and then it’s just silence.
Prioritize new players over player retention and whale chasing in the emporium rather than overall community and game health, this is where we end up.
Rare is screwing up in a variety of ways. Don’t be afraid to speak your mind, you don’t have to apologize as you criticize. We love the game same as you. The developers at Rare are adults. It’s time we put the quality of the game over their feelings.
There is nothing negative about wanting a game you like to improve
And then there is the fact that many year1 players, like me, have so much gold that they do not know what to do with it, literally. I am too empathic too and always felt my fair share of guilt when I stole from other players, especially if they were Sloopers like me. ( _I'm a "like to punch up", guy._ )
So now I am stuck with no thrill to steal at all and feel like a pure griefer when I do. The simple piratedream of amassing a teasure is gone. I already own it.
And an effective goldsink does not exist. Buying dozen of recolors which will clutter my inventory to no end? No thanks. I would so love to spend it all on *allegiance* but alas... 😏 this looks like it won't happen.
And just like that... I am done with everything I want. I would like the golden bones... instead of 20 million gold.
The one thing I cannot get currently without feeling like a p°thet°c loser... and the other gold is stuck with me forever, ironically.
Not cool.
Sadly this "subject matter" has also been the norm for a very long time, it in its self is tiering. This game will never live up to what the "community" wants EVER. I play ALOT of games and rare have been one of the biggest advocates for trying to shape the game to its playerbase, but people are never happy. The FOMO lore content was a great example of this, people hated missing out while also saying they had no reason to log in. People who advocated for this game contedict themselves soooo much. Every person now seems to want to fix the game and seem to act like they know more then the actual creators. Calling the core enjoyment people get out of this the honeymoon phase is short sighted, the honeymoon phase IS the game and for a lot of people that's enough. Content creators act like they are the voice of the community but sorry you guys play this for a job so ofc its going to get stale. I genuinely think the only negative plaguing this game is optimisation and stability, it needs to be addressed soon. I still have to give rare some credit for making a first of its kind game. Developers obviously tend to build on top of outdated software/code to keep it alive for so long, can't imagine how hard it must be.
All I'm saying is I'm tired of constant negetvity. I know it is said as criticism and it gives you reasons to make videos; its all I've heard for years and yet its one of the most fun I've had in gaming.
Captaincy is what soured me on sea of thieves, I thought I'd actually get to decide what my ship looked like below deck. I thought I'd decide the layout, the furniture, etc. Instead all I got was trinkets and paintings with only a few minor changes locked behind hours or grind.
Lol, what made you think that was going to be possible? Were you just letting your imagination run wild? Cause that is wild that you thought that
@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon That's how they made it sound.
@@Kyphura same stuff with no mans sky. People need to start understanding what can and can't be done in games and you won't get hyped up about false promises. I could tell you that wouldn't be possible without a complete overhaul in design
@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon No shit, I'm aware, but I'm just stating how the studio made it sound.
@@Kyphura that's good. It's a message to everyone. Don't believe it if it doesn't seem possible within the limitations we know exist
As a 6 year veteran as well, I can't thank you enough for this video. It's exactly how I'm feeling. For such a unique experience in the gaming world, I can only hope this gets better.
Agreed too here, 100% Veteran here too from Beta, with 900 days played literally, and own almost everything lol.
this video will definitely say what the community are feeling right now and hoping the beautiful game will get back to its best,unfortunately its in a real poor state with all the bugs and delays the player count is just understandably dropping
We need sea of thieves 2
I really like the previous assessment you made about the game needing an engine upgrade I believe it was. "My memory may be failing me," but this game really is showing its age at this point. But it can be saved. I still love this game after almost 7k hrs, but there are things that keep it in a state of mediocrity, which you covered very well. Here's to a hopeful future of Sea of Thieves. Cheers! 🍻
The daily player is a lot (80k) the problema are athers
@@UndertakerFromWWE SOT 2 won't change anything if the on-going mentality continues
@@aMazeInGPros not really on-going mentality consider it is and still is the game engine problem for not holding up
"Save the magic of Sea of Thieves" is such a good note to end on. It really is a magical experience, like you've been whisked away to another world, and there is so much world for you to see. Us who've been playing forever might not feel that way, but to a new player, they usually have the same reaction - utter bewilderment, and stunned with the thrill of adventure. Because of what Rare has built. They, I'm sure, recognize they have made something very special, and I'm sure, are fillled with stress, quite often, on how to continue making it something special, for everyone.
Its refreshing to see comments like these when a lot of the other stuff you read is just angry banter.
For us who truly love the game we will remain vigilant but also show rare out distain for the current state of the game.
Let's keep giving feedback and in the end, we'll see what Rare will do!
-Guilds up to 500 members per guild. Make it an ACTUAL community.
-Make Sea Dogs into SOMETHING. A huge social area with mini games or a cool in-game trading market would be incredible.
-Drop old gen support and get some better servers. Please. This will fix so many issues.
-Provide new experiences like fighting sea monsters or going on quests to deliver fugitive NPCs across the seas while being hunted by players. Something genuinely new and fresh.
The game is so fun but give people a reason to STAY!
Edit: one more cool idea I’ve seen is the ability to DEFEND SEA FORTS a la hourglass style. Take over a fort, allow people to dive to you and try to destroy it. If you successfully defend you get a huge payout.
Please this, i NEED guilds to be bigger lol
Guilds don’t need to be bigger. I just think you should not be allowed to be in multiple guilds. Then you take up a valuable slot in a guild, but you only participate in the most active guild you are in. Also, a better player recruitment system would go a long way.
@@rtcgaming7328 Bigger ones are needed for big communities (example: Those around youtubers), otherwise they get fragmented and get stagnated, killing reason for guild's to exist.
Definitely need a next gen update to unreal engine 5
@@CaramelCraft from another unreal engine 4 developer, sot is nowhere need the maximum load for unreal 4. it's 90% server performance and spaghetti code creating the issues found today. hence why fixing fishing rod launches or introducing crouching to the game broke other mechanics that are completely unrelated.
The issue with Sea of Thieves is that it's a gorgeous game that feels empty.
There is content, but the content is the same 3 quests over and over again with different factions to level up.
You can only kill so many skeletons in an empty server until it loses its charm, no matter what context it is, either Order of Souls, Gold Hoarders, Merchant Alliance, Reapers, Athenas, Tall Tales.
Exactly this is the biggest issue.
I am sadly one of the players that's left this game. I have great memories of Sea of Thieves with my friends but they're not enough to bring me back, I love this game from a distance, it's why im subscribed to this channel. I love watching other people enjoy this game and seeing the new content is occasionally exciting.
I left because once I got a full time job I just did not have the time to invest into such a time demanding game while wanting to keep up with hobbies on the side.
I often had to choose- Play the game and risk losing all progression to toxic sweats? or do my hobby before work?
For as much as I love pirates, I do not trust Rare being capable of handling this game properly anymore. The Pirates of the Caribbean collab was it's peak and we're never getting back to that. Too many bugs, exploits and cheaters all while being an incredibly grindy, time consuming and high stakes game.
This game used to be a goofy sandbox game. Now it's basically just another extraction shooter.
@@pyerackSame. I think after I got my job, it only highlighted Falcore’s point even more that aside from the major content drops which can be done in a weekend, there isn’t really much incentive for me to want to STAY in the game. Sure PvP is fun, but that also got stale after a few years
I don't think it's negative to point out issues and how they are affecting players.
The old advice of "if it's not broke, don't fix it" speaks volumes here. The devs need to stop updating / changing things for the sake of just changing / adding things - but instead, actually fix the things that aren't working. We don't need a swath of new content / features every few months, we need what exists to be perfected.
Also, we don't need more excuses to engage in PvP (like "Skull of Siren Song" voyage for example). There are plenty of opportunities to get into PvP for those who want it, and adding all of the new content just taxes the servers ---> which leads to the maximum number of ships per server being dropped ---> which leads to less players on a server ---> which ultimately leads to fewer organic PvP encounters.
TL;DR: in my opinion, it's time to cut the fat and fix what's broken - do that, and players will come, and stay.
P.S. It's also time text-search-filters for clothing/vanity and ship livery parts becomes a thing in the menus. Trying to put on a ship livery shouldn't take 10 min of scrolling through hundreds of parts when a filter could sort it down for you.
Yes, I agree. It seems like they are constently trying to recreate the haydays of the skelly forts when everybody were trying to server hop^and engage in a free for all for those forts. Like op said, stop trying to create excuses for forced PVP, and please, please review the respawn mechanic. I hate it when I sink a ship after 20 minutes of intense battle just to see it coming back for a rematch 5 minutes later. Winning a fight should mean something.
Sadly the devs have straight up told us they believe that if they stop pumping out content and focus on fixing the game it would not be profitable
''We don't need a swath of new content / features every few months, we need what exists to be perfected.'' Uh yeah you do. Have you not seen the backlash of the seasons where almost nothing was added? Does every SoT fan have their head up their own ass?
@@pyerack I think it might be true short term; content updates probably bring small bumps in the players count, probably former regular players coming back for a couple weeks and then leaving again until the next update (or never), but the accumulation of unfixed problems results in a slow but steady erosion of their player base that will eventually kill the game for good.
The trend has been downward for a while now, and undercooked content update won't cut it.
comments cant even agree on the problem. Half the comments say not enough PVP or content. Other Half say too much content and too much PVP. poor devs lol.
The main issue here is that Rare isn't adding any events during seasons other than community or 2x gold weekend, there needs to be some incentive for players to engage and play SOT on a regular basis, but when Rare releases seasons with very lackluster content, consistently bad stability issues and horrendous bugs/glitches, it's very hard especially for the OG SOT playerbase to keep coming back. Rare needs to make drastic changes to SOT whether it's the seasonal model or something else I don't know, but a change is needed and quick
Exactly this! Monster Hunter World will periodically revamp its pass events for old and new players to redo/do. Like when the trade routes were added, SOT had this week or two week long event of Merchant vs reaper that added higher reward with the higher risk of you participated on either side and it was one of my favorite events besides community day that I enjoyed! They absolutely need to do more events like this!
@@MingledFurball a few community addresses ago they said it was going to be a weekend thing every week. They did 2 in a row, skipped a week, did one more. Been quiet since. Devs are proving lazy imo
One of the big problems i have as an old player, is that i HATE time limited content, i cannot bring myself to come back, to try several times to do content while sweats PvP me all the time. Adventures would have been better made as Tall Tales, even if they limited them to safer seas, so anyone wanting to do them had a special instance of the server.
And on that note, its stupid to not let people bring their ships to safer seas, just lock the advancement of some achivements and done, i just want to bring my own ship with my decorations.
I know it's a little bitchy of me but i can't help but say my reason for quitting as i have gotten raided three playthroughs in a row with 3 hours worth loot as i got absolutely demolished by sweats and whenever i try to comeback to the game the same exact thing happens again it just seems very gated from new players, I'm not sure if it's only me but i just wanted to say my piece.
I keep seeing people say "just dont gather loot for 3 hours without selling" like that makes a difference at all. Ignoring the fact that sometimes we get destroyed after grabbing a single chest and cant do a damn thing about it because somebody with over 100x your playtime is killing you constantly. and even if you DO learn to be pretty good, its completely unreasonable to expect a casual player to beat that person ever. to compare it to another game, one that has ONLY PvP: I play overwatch. I'm ranked high-Plat, meaning im slightly above average. Not a single person in the world would ever expect me to stand up against a Grandmaster player, much less try to learn the game against them. but it seems to me that if you bring up that sentiment when discussing SoT, those better players come out the woodwork and start calling you a baby for wanting a casual game that you can maybe sometimes fight in.
@@charlesmanary2936 What makes it worse, at least Overwatch tries to match you with an equal playing field. SoT will spawn a full galleon at the closest ports while you're on a sloop solo, regardless of their faction rankings including hourglass.
Honestly my experience is get good at the Hourglass grind. There's some great players who will sink you, but if you get some practice in Hourglass you'll get better at holding your ground and fighting ship to ship, and it gives you a skill edge over a lot of players in the high seas. Yes you can get unlucky and face sweats still in the high seas, but good Hourglass skills gives you an advantage over 80% of the players who don't fight PvP regularly, so use the mode to hone your skills.
The second is just learning how to run and waste an enemy's energy and time in a chase. I've been chased by bigger crews and sailed against the wind, sailed into the Devil's Roar, into storms and ghost fleets; just any mutual hazard where a sloop can out maneuver a brig or galleon. Yes they'll call you names for running from a fight, but why take it personally? Using the environment and risks in it to escape a fight can be a great feeling to out-sail an opponent and reach safety.
To your criticism though, spawn times in the game can be broken terribly. Especially on Xbox One and low end PC's, it is possible to be stuck waiting for the Ferry to load while your enemy has had a chance to turn your ship into Swiss cheese. The hit reg problems also make PvP not always a fair fight too, let alone encountering cheaters. A sudden server disconnect can decide a fight. While my tips help in a lot of cases, the game being buggy and broken can derail that still and as the video address is a core thing that needs to be fixed.
@@charlesmanary2936 whats really killed sea of thieves is the community. the honest friendly people have all been driven out. The 'get good' and 'its a pirate game' crowd have completely conquered the seas, even if rare gets off there anchor and fix 100% of the games mechanical problems.....the games still gonna be slowly dying. It will just be a well polished corpse because the community around and in the game is so blood thirsty and hostile
You have a legitimate concern. No matter if you have a lot of gold or none, there are pirates out there that just go online to sink ships.
Played the first three years of Sea of Thieves and then got burnt out by first few seasons; just like any games with season in them I get tired of working the game to a deadline rather then playing the game at my leisure.
Entirely well said, and it needed to come from people with a megaphone. Thank you.
For me it's the sketchy devs with server alliances but mainly the forums mods are absolutely 10 year old children.
Worst forum mods EVER.
Still my 3rd favourite game ever published.
Definitely, I got muted from the discord by a moderator for saying "This is a Free Country 🇺🇸🗽" These discord mods are a joke
The forum moderators and the forums are a horrible joke. The community that's left there is a toxic nest of sycophants who dogpile anyone who renders feedback or suggestions, which the mods encourage. Even the insiders forum is utterly pointless as any feedback given by the community is pretty much always completely ignored.
Yeah forums banned me years ago. For complaining in advance for all the issues to come. Now here we are 😂😂
This sounds like a MAAAJOR issue the devs need to adress and they should completely destroy and rebuild the forums with reliable people modding instead of childish cunts who don't love the game
lol..o.k. buddy .... devs running server alliances sounds like a thing that doesnt exist. MOre like you were told on an alliance server that you were talking to a dev and you believed it without proof?
And yes, if you got banned through discord you did something catastrophically stupid...which, if the context was shown in public, everyone would be making fun of you.
Abandoning the lore for almost two years killed the game for me.
I still keep playing from time to time and grind the season pass, but i'm no longer invested in any part of SoT, and it makes me so sad because i loved, and still love, this game so much.
Also, please please please, drop the season format.
Do you remember what season 4 was about? What season 9 was about? No cachy names, no strengh in it. Numbered seasons are only boring numbers that often are delayed or cut short.
@@EneruMit feels more like Rare doing seasons just to chase trends
The fact the servers literally stop you from enjoying the game and it's been years the problem has continued to exist
The biggest issue I have with the game that was not mentioned here is how people can just load into a server and go and sink a ship that has been stacking loot for hours, and if they fail and sink they lose nothing but if they succeed the other ship loses hours of work. I think there needs to be SOMETHING that makes going for PVP more of a risk
This drove away so much of the player variety, too. I remember early on in the game's life, just after release, you would encounter all sorts of people. Most ships that approached you weren't hostile, and even when they were it was never predictable, with everyone so inexperienced any strategy was on the table, making it sometimes truly enjoyable to be attacked by people with the most ridiculous of plans. But that was the smaller side - you encountered all sorts of friendly crews, people just stopping by to say hello, or the fun ones dragging you into sword duels on the rigging or their tea-collecting navy roleplay or whatever other things they'd have. But when you try to do any of that, or try to ignore interaction entirely, and you instead encounter the same crews repeatedly who just want to seek you out and kill you for no reason other than to kill people, it ruins a lot of that fun, and people leave. Then there's proportionally more people doing their endless hunt and less people buffering them from the remaining ones not doing that, and so on and so forth until they're pretty much all that's left alongside the stubborn ones who stay in spite of them. It feels so much worse to lose hours of effort and stacking than it feels good to sink someone doing that, and that's a problem the game has never escaped.
At its core, it's the session-based gameplay - if you had to work up to get the weapons and ship necessary to hunt someone down, this would have basically not been a problem at the start. People would choose their battles, and fear losing their weapons if they're fought back against in the same way the people collecing money would fear losing their current haul, and in the meantime while they're continuing to gather they would gain a further weapon advantage. It would feel good to overcome a superior opponent, and you would lose your massive hauls less often. But that wasn't what Rare wanted, and this is what it got us.
@@ultmateragnarok8376 Exactly. People have limited amount of free time. They can play other games, watch Netflix, doom scroll TikTok. If they're required to invest multiple hours to finish the more interesting voyages or world events, but they can lose the loot any time to someone who isn't risking anything and just bought some resources, hopped on a ship and can (and will) come back repeatedly, people will just leave. Or they'll do Safer Seas, which has it's limits and the impact on Higher Seas population is the same as leaving.
Spot on. And yet yo u have people telling us, that the PvP players "loses time and may not know if your boat has loot"
The majority of players nowadays are toxic cunts who won't quit till they sink you just for the reason of sinking you
thats the point of the game lol
THANK YOU for finally speaking up to say things that needed to be said. Too often-almost all the time, really-content creators, whether videos or podcasts, want to stay on everyone’s good side and try to “keep it positive,” which tends to be even more irritating as it gives the impression that they’re serving Rare rather than the community by avoiding certain topics with the excuse that “yeah, but everyone already knows that, so there’s no point in talking about it.” It’s not a dead game, but its soul is certainly dying when, as a player, you feel that the community loves this game more than its creators do, judging by the promises made/kept/not kept. The feeling of betrayal started with the seasons; the video where they assured us we’d still get as much content as with monthly updates but condensed into three months. Nonsense. We’re getting less and less, and of worsening quality; sometimes you wonder if they even play the game, the proposals are so out of sync with player expectations. And to top it off, with the captaincy, you’re asked to start all over again, with minor tweaks, even if you’ve already maxed out things you don’t want to redo. The narrative world makes no sense-not talking about the “mysteries” here, just basic writing flaws that even a simple ChatGPT prompt could fix. Adventures promised to fill this lack of storytelling but were once again started and then abandoned as if by amateurs, and so on. I get that, yes, it’s a “free” live service, but no, we buy the game with the promise of a live service experience, with the promise of evolving for the better. All we do in Sea of Thieves is hope, season after season, to get content for the players and not content that checks a box for the studio like, “that’s done, we’ve provided a season.” I buy as much as possible in the emporium, not even out of love for the cosmetics but to support Rare in its model. If none of this is working, it’s time to change strategy. In fact, I think we’re all waiting for this-a wake-up call and some transparency. For someone to speak up and say, “We’ve heard you, we understand, give us some time to show you that we’re still here.” And honestly, the little “mysteries” like “we can’t talk about what’s coming, but it’s going to be amazing” worked for a few years; now we’ve understood that generally there’s NOTHING. Stop building hype around what’s not there and start building hype around what actually is. That would be a first step. I also have to add, to this feeling of lost trust, the overall management of the game’s image. Banning a player and setting up resources to repeatedly track and block them or harm them as a content creator raises huge questions about “content exploitation” in their game for creators. There are also extremely questionable waves of bans against which players can do nothing, leaving me hesitant even to try in PvP, just in case my lag gets mistaken for teleporting, etc. Or getting a ban (which isn’t even an actual ban), at the same time as a bunch of other players on Twitch, without ever receiving any explanation, context, or apology. There’s a massive loss of trust in their ability to manage, envision, and deliver. It’s unfortunate, but that’s why this video is valuable-now they know it’s gotten to the point where even Captain Falcore is addressing it on his channel. The time has come to take action.
Oh and don't get me started on content creators gifts with the horrible "serpent sails" when we had beatiful sets in the beginning. Yeah, sorry for the long message.
It is not a “free” live service game I bought it for $40 and also pay for game pass ultimate every month just for SoT.
The feeling of betrayal and broken promises is older than that. I remember days just after launch, when they added the sloop and said they would not make concessions to solo players, that if you chose to play a game intended for a minimum of four alone then you would deal with challenges made for a minimum of four, alone. The game's life has quite a few such long-forgotten statements, but that is the simplest one to put into words.
@@CaramelCraft If you were already paying for GP why the fuck did you buy it
Rare cannot get the balance right between too easy and too grindy:
Skull of siren song commendations are way to easy to complete, so all dedicated players are already done with them.
Guilds and Hourglass don't offer enough rewards for the long grind one has to do. Thus many players don't bother with it. (Season 13 has helped the servant faction a fair bit in that regard, but I feel like there should be some reward every 20 to 50 levels. Not every 100 to 200).
For the skull of siren song rare needs to
1. Make the voyage spawn less often, so it's more like a FoF in rarety.
2. Make new rewards so player play it again.
3. Make the voyage despawn after a certain timer, so it doesn't stay active forever
skull of sirens song was way too easy but way too boring since you'd get 1 boat max there to fight for it after the first day
While the soss quest was way too easy for my crew and I (who love pvp), it was frustrating how the achievements were built around it: turn in 20 skulls, then unlock 30 chests, and then dig up key/chest 40 times.
Hourglass is just terribly designed
I’ve been grinding it out as the title and mask are both for character bits. The turn in 30 skulls with open 40 chests just doesn’t make any sense. Not to mention outside of that title there is 0 incentive to go for it. Heck rare needs to make it cost 200k+ in gold. Make it worth the same as a world event, give it anymore incentive to do. I’ve been doing the quest on and off for over the last month. Have only been contested once out of probably 20 soss’.
Tbf Skull of Siren Song was 100% relying on enticing pvp to function as it's challenge. Problem is that the hardcore players chewed through that on the first week and once they were done there was few people who cared enough to contest you.
This is so perfectly said. Bravo.
My only fear is it's too late.
Speed and commitment outside of apology videos haven't been in rares book for a long time.
This video really hits - I’ve never commented on one of your videos but this one captures the melancholy many of us must feel. As someone who has over 5k hours in the game, I am saddened by the unrealised promise of SoT. The game used to be my go-to but over the last 2 years, I would be lucky to average 1 session every other month. I really do hope the devs take your feedback to heart. It clearly came from a place of respect and admiration for the game many of us love and want to see prosper. Thanks Captain Falcore for this video and for being a voice for the community.
youre disappointed in a game that gave you 5000 hours of enjoyment. i cant imagine the word you use to describe a game you quit in an under an hour. expectations for game devs are insane.
Honestly while I enjoy the pve with my other half in SoT we are terrible at pvp. Meaning we just don't play the game. Really wish you could play without the pvp.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but adding Safer Seas, made me come back to SoT and this time with my wife! What a joy! But not being able to customize your own ship, which you in the end, is the only one who enjoys decorating, is a missed opportunity.
I hope the developers will cater more to us, who don't like to fight other players but love what you mentioned, the magical world (and looks and atmosphere) of SoT.
In my opinion, the two biggest issues with this game are the lack of kernel-level anti-cheat and the absence of meaningful PvE content. I was never really drawn to the PvP aspect-not because I couldn't perform well, but because I just couldn't bring myself to care enough to stay invested. I found myself wanting to log out instead. What I really wish for is more challenging PvE content with worthwhile rewards; that would make all the difference for me.
rares #1 issue is that they somehow dont learn. they just keep repeating their mistakes. arena died just for them to show the same lack of care for hourglass, which is now just as dead as arena. and the same thing can be applied to basically anything and everything else that people are complaining about.
It's so frustrating Rare keeps adding new hourglass rewards, but they haven't touched hourglass itself since it launched
You saying that "they somehow don't learn" simply isn't true, sorry.
@@EddieTheBear It is true! No it isn't! Yes it is! No it isn't! Yes it is! It's not true, you smell! It is true, you smell more!
^ This is how it sounds when you make a statement without offering any kind of supporting argument.
@@Kittari13 hahahahahaha
@@Kittari13 just because the hg lfg posts are common in the discord, it doesn't mean hourglass is directly more popular than arena was. if you look around for comments, you'll see how many people want arena back, and i've personally never seen someone talk about how "great" hourglass is, because it is mostly the same thing every fight
I don’t want to see this game die 🥹
the number one reason myself and all my friends left was the toxicitisity, i know youve heard it, but PVE
i couldnt agree more, pve servers or private servers realistically wont hurt the game at all, just cause u spend hours grinding a skelly ship achivent in live doesnt mean u did anyless grinding in a pve setting , and let be honest what is so bad with players having choices on how they want to play and expeinace the game, havent the deves said for years its a pvpve open world sandbox were players choose how to play, well how can they choose with pvp shoved down the throat. , heck my last major play was during the one adventure and had ppl role up on me calling me names and telling me i was only a slave how is that fun for ppl
@@SennaTheSamurai Simply no. Private servers will hurt a game that's about risk. If you got the same rewards as the high seas, there would be no reason to play the normal mode. As corny this sounds, it wouldn't be a sea of thieves. The toxicity is a different story, but technically, that isn't the games problem. My best advice is to mute other toxic crews.
@@PigOnASkewer
Simply wrong. GTA Online gives you PvE servers with the same rewards as well and guess what, the game is still alive and growing.
PVE servers already exist. I don't know why people keep bringing it up...
@@EneruMbecause safer seas sucks
Why does this video sound like 50 ways to avoid saying what I said before: There is no vision for what this game is supposed to be at Rare. You are being too nice and/or too naive.
What honestly gets me is the fact I boot up the game, try to play solo on a sloop, have a galleon spawn next to me with four players the second I dig up a chest. If I last more than an hour I'll have cleaned one island of loot with a sizable haul only for me to be ganged up on and stuck in a spawn loop being killed while in the spawn animation. To then spend another hour clearing a combat shrine only to be killed after finishing the boss by a group of players and spawn camped by the statue unable to warp to my ship because they can knock me off the hold interact to warp, and they spawn faster than I can fight them off. I'm at the point where I can't earn anything from Safer Seas except reduced gold, but if I try to play the game, the game always spawns me out numbered, out skilled, and down hours of time spent for no reward.
I literally left the game for a long Time for the exact reasons you said many people leave for. And a lot of my friends did as well. You said it way better then anyone of us could have. Hopefully they listen to you. Thanks for being such an amazing guy
THANK YOU!!!! You are one of the first SoT Partners to actually address the issues that a lot of players have been feeling for so long.
Many sot partners don't dare speak scared they'll lose their pathetic status
Real all of them just go along with whatever comes out and never talk about the game
I know a few partners who speak up about it on their streams but don't make videos on youtube. Falcore if def not the first one but he is one of the few people who belongs in the list who speaks up about it.
@@mantiemo-8541 that's why I said he is one of the first to do it. The partners that do it on stream don't reach as big of an audience. UA-cam vids about it reach more people
I was an avid player of SoT since the Open Beta. When the game launched I'd recently left an 11-year stint working on a historical replica tall ship quite similar to SoT's galleons. While obviously simplified, I could apply my actual sailing skills and training to the game and be effective. Essentially SoT became my "methadone," easing me off the nautical life I *still* miss now. I soon had a regular group of friends to sail with, but I poured untold hundreds of hours into solo slooping. I just loved sailing around, sightseeing while scoping out beaches for "shinies," and even just hanging out by the rail and watching the waves. My friends have all long, long since moved on -- one of them primarily due to disenchantment with the in-game store- - and I haven't reached 100 Renown for three seasons running. At heart, I'm a solo slooper, and over the years my "squirrel" style of play -- avoiding conflict, rigorous attention to my surroundings, making alliances, and, yes, skillful sailing to escape or frustrate pursuers -- have been *systematically* whittled away. Between inescapable brigandines, hostile players potentially emerging from portals or--even worse--popping out out of the sea right offshore, and the loss of the ultimate denial of satisfaction to enemies--sailing your treasure into the red sea, everything, EVERYTHING is constantly pushing toward confrontation. And if you retreat to Safe Seas, you take a massive hit in rewards, lose out on events, and can't even enjoy, much less improve, your captaincy! Until the Shrouded Ghost entered the game, I obsessively collected every commendation and every possible doubloon. In hindsight, I begrudgingly appreciate the impossibility of finding the Ghost for breaking the game's spell over me. That's when I started drifting away. The game does not *want* me anymore. It wants the toxic "sweatlords," and it's harder and harder to overcome that.
but you point this out to the toxic sweats and they say
"GeT GoOd" or "ItS SeA oF ThIeVeS NoT SeA oF FrIeNdS" and call us entitled a-holes when we refuse to be there punching bags
You typed this ...
"and the loss of the ultimate denial of satisfaction to enemies--sailing your treasure into the red sea, everything, EVERYTHING is constantly pushing toward confrontation."
and you think this is the kind of gameplay content you think Rare wants shown in youtube videos? Youre the kind of player that makes the game look unappealing and boring. How is 'red sea-ing' your loot
This post is so telling. You want the experience of safer seas while in High seas and the problem youre having is due to the raw influx of new players.
@ Out of curiosity, which part of “I don’t like engaging the toxic players” and “I don’t think the game wants me as a player anymore” do you feel you’re arguing against here?
Bro wtf are u talking about, as a once insanely competitive sot player I can tell u they hate us. Stop using us as a scapegoat and blame the dev team that continues to fail this amazing game
@@eggwardfr No, it really doesn't hate us. Most of the updates center around finding new ways to steal from people. I get really tired of needing to steal from people (most of the people I find take hours to finish easy tasks, or they give up halfway through), but every time I have a half hour to an hour of free time to play, if I try and do world events or fish inevitably someone comes along and attacks me. Sometimes successfully, usually not. But it's annoying to have a game that focuses on stealing and being stolen from with little to no alternatives.
As a Vanguard who stopped playing a few months ago, thank you for this video. This game above any was my heart. I seemingly lived on this game at times. I have children who were raised playing it. The aim in the start of the game was a Pirate world where we were pushed to get along and meet new people. I met more people on this game than any I can recall in those times. There was a clear focus to PvP. I have no beef with PvP. It helped the game grow. But the players who didn't enjoy it were abandoned. There were story modes and even safer seas that were designed and offered some good content. They had very harsh penalties for anyone who was not going to sail open seas. Open seas became the place where PvP players who were good but not part of the cheaters or top 10 percent in ranking went to PvP. The new game destroyed solo slooping for most. Again, please understand, I like PvP. I just do not like it all the time. If I want to play the game with my 12 year old, I do not want to have to be on a sloop and face 2 Gallys and 2 Brigs in a server who are just seeking PvP, if I wish to try out different new events. I love this game. My experience is not exclusive. I have a list of at minimum 20 plus friends who were daily players and cannot jump on without a 3-4 person crew without being mobbed before completing 1 new event, or even an old one. I love watching PvP. I loved Arena. If we look at this like a sport, 8 out of 10 of the referees calls in the last few years were for PvP modes and incentives. I used to enjoy PvP. Now it is all there is. The content was never expanded because all resources were being applied to matchmaking and regulating PvP scenarios. A good story was forgotten and left behind for streaming views to hype up new events that die after a week or so. And now, PvP is the only streaming content or game modes. Safer Seas was just an expanded tutorial. If PvP is that immensely popular and the PvE, story loving, family folk are that outnumbered, then why not give a full version of safer seas and leave the open seas to the blood thirsty lot? I will tell you why. The story loving, explorative, outgoing, friendly people who have always loved this game are just Chum for the sharks now. The Devs need to chum the waters or PvP modes will continue to die because this game was never enjoyed by the CoD fans until the loyal fans were turned to chum for views and new modes. I have watched this channel and the stream for years. I have never seen Cptn Falcore make fun of someone, spawn camp, be malicious, exploit, or PvP in an unsportsman manner. Thanks for always representing all the players Captain. The lack of meaty content led to PvP being the only reasonable solution to boredom for many. Please do not take this as bitching about the PvP community. I love that base as well. I just wanna see some balance again and maybe some updates that focus on something besides sneaking and murdering eachother. I know pirates are pirates. I expect some skullduggery. But I do miss this game when it was balanced and fun for all. Mad love to all players and I hope your sessions are long, fruitful, and without crashes. May the wind be with ya.
I thought that for a while too, Rare needs to pick a lane.
I remember when captaincy was added with captain quests just for captain quests to very quickly be removed in favor of the new quest system that's missing half of the options we had previously.
Rare, why did you remove the mercenary voyages when Guilds are the perfect emissary for doing them
I came back after a long long break and was honestly disheartened by the new voyage system, no more chapters, no more diverse loot pools or island variation, if it's a high level voyage it's big islands, low level, small islands, it lost a lot of character I feel, but it was all towards the effort of speeding the process up which is kind of nice
I'm surprised yall are still playing this game. Even though it looks visually spectacular, and believe me this game has one the best graphics to date still. But the problem for me is in the game's core gameplay loop. As the Actman once said, "All you're doing is taking a chest from island A and then sailing it to island B to get some cosmetics. That's it's
Could they bring back the arena but using the hourglass/portal mechanics? You vote for arena but continue playing the game, once 5 crews are matched you all dive for a 20 minute PVP battle, once it over you all sink and respawn on new maps…… gold being paid out to the winner
The point is that it still takes up a server slot. This was the original reason arena was removed, so this wouldn’t work
You would get tired of the queue times and the feature would become dead. Sorry but it's just a terrible suggestion.
@@Tjerty I could be wrong, but I'm not sure you're understanding their suggestion. They're not saying vote for arena and immediately dive into queue like hourglass. They're trying to say that you could vote to play arena and continue sailing until there are enough players for an arena fight. Personally, I think it's better than the current hourglass queue, but it would also be really frustrating if you were in the middle of a fight or an event when your arena queue went off, and you lost everything. I'm sure there are flaws with this idea too, but I think the original idea of putting everyone into the sea dog tavern is still the best idea, but I think (much like ships) it needs some minigames (cards or a board game or something) to keep people entertained.
@@laserbeamblock8169in that case, suggestion is even worse and would never work. being able to sail normally while in queue would cause so many problems and would ruin both queue time and normal adventure mode.
And I'll add to this saying they could also have A deathmatch mode where you don't use your boats
A map designed for people to run around and shoot each other on so many people enjoy that aspect of the game and want other people to do it. But this would be a way for them to partake in what they want without bothering people trying to fish
I'd only want one thing in this game: having the option to choose to avoid random, unwanted, forced pvp. In other words, being able to have the full experience and full features & rewards in Safer Seas. That's all I'd ask for.
I just want "controlled" PvP in safer seas. As in, invite-only. So I could practice getting better as a solo slooper with a friend.
@@Hadeks_Marow hell, servers where the only PvP is hourglass. sort of a 'defacto PvE server' where PvP is opt-in only. (perhaps make that adventure mode, and make the current "PvP enabled all the time" into 'elite mode' or something. so you can do solo/single group play in safer seas, go multiplayer with optional PvP matching for adventure, or full risk on Elite maps.)
@@glitterboy2098 Nah, the biggest problem with PvE players is that they don't think they are good at PvP and that they can't get good at PvP so it's not worth bothering. And then thusly hate it when it's forced upon them.
Often times the line between "i don't enjoy the PvP" and "I'm not good at the PvP" is muddied and blurred. One confused for the other, or the other assumed due to the former.
The fact of the matter is most players don't have a place to "become" better. A structured environment for "practice", "learning" and "improvement". I think 50% of the players who currently despise PvP won't have such an issue against it if they had room to grow at it. Trust me, you can get good at it and still hate it (I'm one of them), but ultimately majority of the time alot of the hate comes from having no control over your own play session.
I think because there is that blurred line of "don't enjoy" vs "not good at", it's not exactly appropriate to fix the game for the "don't enjoy" until we bolden that line to better make it clear on who is who. That means making entering the PvP space more accessible/approachable to the newer and more skittish pirates out there. That's why safer seas where you could have friends teach you in privet would be such a good thing. It'd be a controlled environment with people you trust. That's the goal. To give players every assistance to not be bad before they write things off entirely.
@Hadeks_Marow any system where I can lose hours of grinding to a dude who just logged on with a better internet connection ain't for me I already work full time but at least I get a check to show for it at the end of the week for that reason I un-installed
@@The-Mad-Doctor Are you sure it's "just" the internets fault you lost that fight?
My biggest issue is that griefers have seemed to get worse. I didnt even leave the tavern before getting shot in the back, multiple times. This isnt GTA or RDR2. Its getting annoying.
agreed, thats why i never really got into the game 9 times out of ten i get killed before i can even get some cannon balls or food off the starting island and get to my ship, the other one time i get sunk by people camping the outpost.
All due respect the game is pve/pvp. It says so from the start ajd the name even implies it. They are not "griefers". They are just playing the game. Not saying it is not annoying but it is how the game was meant to be.
I agree with the sentiment, there are plenty of things to do, but for people that have played for years, we have nothing, and when something new is added, we finish it soon and then we are with nothing new to do again. Plus there are events and prizes that leave out many countries as we're not able to participate :( I really hope they find a steady course. Oh, and I really miss when you had to actually DO something to earn the rewards in some events (grogmanay, halloween, etc.), now you just have to login to get them.
I want to have arena back so bad!!! :'(((
Id play the game again if they brought back arena
Just don't post anything in the SoT forums, or you get the thread insta locked. Such a toxic moderation system.
Yup, arena was great
@@Thamb0 the rare CSMs and moderators are power-tripping egomaniacs.
Sorry brother, it was barely used by the player base and was a huge drain on server resources. Unfortunately, it's not worth it, unless they find a way to make it much smaller/simpler
Problem with SoT is PvP players dont play PvP content (arenA, hourglass, etc)
They just go for dudes chilling doing tall tales.
Literally me today, I was working on Cursed Rogue as a solo and a brig rolled up on me just after I got to the island with the chest. No emissary flag yet they figured I had Fort Knox chilling below deck. Most who want the PvP don't want the challenge of PvP, they just want to steam roll someone who is chilling minding their own business. It's why I wish Rare would just give us proper private servers that we the community can run and lock behind passwords so only friends can join in.
Sometimes when I play I just sit at an outpost watching the beauty of this game and thinking about anything and everything, something I can only do in this specific game.
It sure is a piece of art 🖼
I know the server issues arent the main part of why sea of thieves is the way it is right now, but they do impact my gameplay quite significantly.
I started the grind for the skeleton curse and ive had my boat randomly jump, saw things on the enemy ship that werent there (for example a broken mast, or the enemy ship being turned a different way), or even saw players seemingly teleport onto my ship
Been Playing SoT since 2017 and I always dreamed of a proper PVE mode that wouldn't cap your progress but rather give you new options on what to do.
I played Sea of thieves for a bit with a friend, but it just lacked a depth that we were both looking for. We love our long progression based live-service games, and all the content in Sea of Thieves felt like it had this... lack of depth? A lot of content starts and ends really quickly, while not having a lot of connecting tissue between them. Plus the rewards just being gold doesn't feel that great because you just buy cosmetics with them. Now I understand that's a design choice by the developers, that a 1 hour player and a 500 hour player functionally have no difference, but it really was a turn off to have a big, tense voyage with all of our loot, only to cash it in for... what felt like nothing?
4:42 The developers grow bored, not the player base. Yes! I agree with this assessment.
I usually get into the game for a few weeks about once a year these days. Been playing since 2018. Last time playing was October of 2023. Getting back into it in December 2024 it's absolutely wild the difference. The lag. The plethora of bugs. The completely dead game unable to break 10k congruent players in steam. Good thing they keep prioritizing micro transactions! Soon their play base will be so negligent nothing they can do will bring it back. The focus on the ancient coins store was the downfall of this game. They stopped caring about a decent game when they started adding the pets. They ONLY WANTED TO MILK US FOR OUR MONEY LIKE CATTLE.
I’d argue that the performance has started reaching a tipping point for a large portion of the dedicated player base. Look at how many of the community enjoyed Sand in its completely bug riddled state just because we are used to it. Even opening up crates and barrels has become a slog, I’m not even worried about hit reg, but there was a time where the water wasn’t even working….in a boat game.
I’m literally lagging while just SAILING.
I wish gold had more use than just cosmetics. Maybe they could add the ability to sacrifice speed for more armor, sacrifice armor for more fire power etc. Kinda like call of duty classes where you have a certain amount of slots you can fill with different equipment. Also more sea creatures to hunt. And a social hub in game would be cool.
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I feel with SoT 2 Rare can take inspiration from Bungie with Destiny expansions. I know many don’t like Destiny, but with destiny we knew exactly what we’re getting and what to be excited about whether it be new raids or dungeons and open worlds. SoT as an open world game could easily benefit from this and have events that change the map from season to season with story implications.
As a veteran, it breaks my heart to see what was once my favorite game become unplayable. So many factors have ruined this game for me and all of my friends. R.I.P SoT 😔
I can't agree that it's "unplayable".
There a issues, yes, but its not unplayable.
I agree, I left recently because I was sick of the game and the game at least right now is NOT fun anymore and it breaks my heart because I loved this game and knowing Rare, they are stubborn to the bitter end.
@@EddieTheBear Watching them ruin a game that was near perfect is intolerable
I was playing last night and me and my crew had multiple crashes each in the same sessions. Really hope they fix it soon.
I can’t even play sea of thieves anymore. I took a week break from sot to finish red dead II(best story game I’ve ever played.) and try cod bo6. Playing a fps like cod after playing sot is like going from a hand-me-down rinky-dink tricycle to a lambo. I can’t even describe my recent experiences with sot. Moving around the environment becomes a task with sot. The gun play is completely nonsensical with the whole delay between weapon switching. I have taken many breaks in my time with sot but I don’t think I’ll be returning from this one and it’s not like I wanted to take a break. The game has just whittled away to unplayable and the devs can’t help but make it worse every single update. I’ve accomplished most of my goals in sot and just trying to play it for fun isn’t the same anymore. I used to blame it on my Xbox one but even with my series x I realize it really is just not worth any time. It kinda hurts to say that too because I love sot and for the longest time that was the game that I could always fall on if another game got boring. Now it’s just nothing. I don’t even know what they need to do but whatever it is they have to do it quick because if they don’t, people will stop playing and Microsoft will kill it. Sot has unlimited potential and they seriously should capitalize on it because right now it is still just a concept.
I just started a few days ago and yes, I’m not noticing any of the issues yet, but finding out only 5 ships are ever around at one time made it feel kinda empty and closed instead of this vast, sprawling sea filled with pirates of all types.
There’s also the experienced players jumping the newer ones here and there, but I found that didn’t upset me as much, especially since I had no more than the starting resources lol
problem with sot is that Rare wont accept anything and the person that makes most of the key decisions about the game likely doesent even play it.
Sea of Thieves needs Reform.
Agreed! Leadership needs to change! If that doesnt change, I don't expect anything changing at all from this. The current team is not up for the task.
It really sucks that they keep seeing the most passionate people as 'a small minority'
Truely hope they can bring the excitement of exploration back. The unknown was what it did for me, however I now know every pebble on every beach after years of playing.
I am playing twice a week, since the launch. In the beginning almost daily, but other games exist. And honestly, I am pretty happy right now with the general content delivery. The sandbox has enough content for anyone, even veterans like me, to do. I am still missing some veil voyages, Siren Song can be done while traveling to other means, just like any bottled quests who are actually worth the effort now, same goes for the shipwrecks. The meg is attacking again (I remember times when it almost never showed up for months) and holds loot worth the effort, although we usually ignore it because we are on the way to even better means most of the time. The new weapons are fun to use and shake up the meta, just as intended, the harpoon gun is a fun a fast travel item on islands. Session 14 brought enough new content even after disabling the tuck emotes and traps, and if these are delivered ongoing troughout the session, that is an even better release circle than one big bang once every 3 months.
Yes, sometimes the game lags at the moment, but what games doesn't? They come, they go, that is a circle troughout the years. A patch fixes many lags, a new session brings new lags, a patch fixes them. Common live service game routine. It happened more often than usual, but that's why they are building a whole new team just for that. And that takes time to take effect, that team needs to learn first. Do not expect any big impacts in the first 6 months.
I play this game twice a week for some years now, and I never really felt like the game is more unstable or less playable than any other game. I still prefer it over most other multiplayer games in this genre with the friends I play it with. It is the perfect game for our crew still.
Rage bait used to be believable
I agree. I can only imagine that the views in the video are only true for those who play hours and hours every day of their lives. Of course you're going to get bored or disappointed after all that time. Playing twice a week or so (which actually seems like a lot to me) is going to keep the "honeymoon period" going for longer. I've been playing about that amount (sometimes more) since 2020, and I still have fun with the game. I feel like there's always stuff to do, old and new. I'm amazed that this game that I only had to buy *once* four years ago (for less than the price of only one night at the movies with the family) keeps re-inventing itself and becoming a new game every few months, while also maintaining the same essential feel it originally did, the world of Sea of Thieves that I first fell in love with.
I dunno. I'm just some dude. My first game video game to play was Pong in the 1970s, and I thought Zelda II was the end-all of video games when it came out in 1987. That a game like Sea of Thieves even exists blows my mind. It's the only game that made me watch videos about it and become fans of Falcore, Fuzzy, Hitbo, Kraken, and the rest. I feel like I'm both the audience for these videos (since I enjoy them so much) but also absolutely not the audience for these videos (since they often confuse me).
I got the game a year ago. I've already stopped playing. The instability goes far deeper than new season lags. I've been stuttering and rubberbanding since shortly after I started playing.
As a casual player myself, I can see both sides. But for me, like you, there are tons for me to do. I've been grinding OOS since 2022 and absolutely loving it. Since my laptop died, I haven't been playing since mid season 12 so I cannot say anything about the instability. And the new and added quests was a much needed refresh, the trinkets you get from skeleton lords (the voodoo dolls and the gally ship toys) are some of my favorite loot along with the orbs. There is still tons for us casuals to do. But I understand that those who are able to play this game religiously can feel like they're forgotten (complete all 5 It's a Pirates Life and accomodations within one day for example) but I think that's why when Captaincy came out the grind was so high and ludicrous for us casuals was to keep the hardcore religious players happy bc the grind is higher.
As for gilds, I'm not sure how to fix that. I have like 3-4 friends that I occasionally play with so we have our own gold that's mixed with a SOT community and my own. So the 25 player limit isn't even full. But I get that there are sub sot communities that are larger than that. I know Rare won't do it, but if there was a way to like have 2 ships of the same guild on servers (like brig sloop or gally and sloop) could add some insensitive. Like 6 ships on the server 3 different guilds at max on the server. (Duly noted idk the max server size of player ships and types rn). How this would work, is probably like dives in Hourglass. Like you go to the captain table and a little pop up on the captains book will say like "Another ship on your guild is currently playing, dive to join them?" And you can either accept for deny. If you accept, dive like normal and you pop up in the server several squares away from the other guild ship that way either you can team up to do world events or other voyages.
But I do agree that they need to bring back the little events like community day back. Like when the trade routes were introduced and they had extra rewards and xp if you were a merchant or a reaper. That was fun. Do more of those!
@@FlorianOellerich no one’s arguing about the content being low. Theres lot to do for casual players, but you are delusional if you don’t see any bugs every session. The waves desync infront of you all the time, PvP is more inconsistent than ever and the amount of game breaking bugs forced rare to rollback the entire update
As someone who bought sea of thieves 3 days ago, I already love the game a lot but I can definitely see its flaws. For me it feels slightly lacking in content due to the unique progression style of the game, but the biggest problem I can think of for me is the guns not firing and the black screening. The hourglass game mode is full of sweats who destroy me and my friends, but when we go to the normal mode my friends get bored because we can’t find people. Whenever I do find people I’m solo slooping and get boarded and sunk super easily (partly due to my lack of skill and also partly due to the fighting mechanics). The ability to one shot with the blunderbuss is cool but I can never get it off due to the gun not shooting or my aim being trash. Yet when I don’t get sweats in my lobby trying to kill me, I can get all the treasure I want without a challenge (which makes it feel invaluable), but then it doesn’t mean much due to the uselessness of gold apart from cosmetics. I understand why they allow everyone the same weapons, but I also feel like it is one of the reasons why gold doesn’t feel as valuable as it should. Moral of the story is that I like the game and want to play it with friends, but the bugs are frustrating and my friends aren’t fans of the progression style so they don’t play often.
Don't have an opinion if you're a new player
Thats how we got here in the first place
Keep your mouth shut until you have at least 100 days played of pure pvp
Than have an opinion
@@FederalEmployee Don't have an opinion based on pure PvP. New player input is important, they see what the new player experience is, and if that experience is bad, then all the new players leave and the game gets doomed for good. The game is intended to be a mixture of PvP and PvE, a big world where simple systems can clash and tangle, and while playing it purely as PvP is plenty valid, sections of the playerbase alienating the rest of them without a view of the bigger picture is how we _actually_ got here.
Sea of Thieves has not been beginner-friendly for quite some time, unfortunately, and as much as a big part is the gameplay, another big part of that is its community.
Don't have an opinion if all you've done is pvp, because you've not even touched the whole game.
@@FederalEmployeewhy would I need more time in pvp to have a more valid opinion when I already am experiencing issues in the first days
@@garchompenthusiast ? I’ve done tall tales, pvp, and the normal game mode for the majority wdym
Thank you, Falcore. I am finding less joy as time progresses with this game and I had not fully connected until you summarized it so well. My son and I would pay a couple or times a week. It now feels like we play a couple times a month. He is very sensitive to the lack of continuity and bugginess of game, which then turns me off since I'm looking to just play and have fun with him. For me, I hate spending a few hours playing to be as worried about a glitch as being attached by some random player. At times I wish we could back in time...
In my opinion they should delay updates until they are ready but if its the xbox one that is holding the game back I'm am a xbox one user and i love the game and if the xbox one is the problem it needs to be discontinued so everyone else can enjoy the game i know some people would be mad hell I'll be sad but its the best for the game and the player base
It's alright Falcore, there's no need to worry about this video being a little sombre, sometimes we just need a moment of sadness to let the bad flow so we can move on with our lives. And you're video certainly has done that for me. I've been playing for so many years, grinding commendations with fellow pirates, trying new things with each update, but my favourite thing about this game was exploring the lore and world changes with YOU and so many other chroniclers. Thank you for being my inspiration to play this game, every step of the way. Here's hoping the future will be brighter for this game and even if it doesn't, it won't take away the good memories we all had.
p.s. since everyone else is suggesting their ideas for what they want, so I'll suggest mine. But not here, I'll post my idea in a reply to this comment.
Alright, my idea for the game. I know it's an unpopular opinion, but I'd like adventures to come back. I think they switched things up between seasons, but I have to agree, the time-limited/monthly system didn't help adventures last long, so I suggest they make them event based: say an event rolls up introducing a world change, one or two even three adventures could be added to explain why said world change is occurring and maybe add some lore. This could alternate between main story tie-ins events the would be replayed later on and random reoccurring events that would pop up occasional to keep the game, you could even have seasonal event tied to events like Festival of the Damned, Giving, fight night and more. But how would your replay some adventures? Umbra, she would have met other chronicles who've set up shop on every outpost and you can visit them replay a previous adventure, either by gaining temporary access to the Sea of the Damned to experience the events for yourself, the Sea of the Damned being a land of memories after all or they're give you a ferryman's lantern to visit the islands and relive the events without too much of the hassle. If they won't make new adventures, they could at least use this method to bring back the old ones so newcomers can experience and understand the story.
But that's just my idea. Think what you will of it.
new players actually continuing to play?
new players get bullied into getting refunds by trolls.
I played Sea Of Thieves regularly since launch. It was great seeing it evolve and expand over the years, and it was even better enjoying those experiences with friends. But there was only so much I could take dealing with progressively worse performance and entire sessions wasted engaged with other crews who'd never fully commit to a fight. I lost interest about two or three months ago, and I have no intention of going back any time soon, if at all.
My friends and I played this game CONSTANTLY for 2 weeks when it hit PS5, but the fact that you can ONLY spend your gold on cosmetics felt crap. We gave up on the game.
Let us customise/upgrade our ship - add more cannons, move the harpoons around, etc.
I realy like the idea of Sea of thieves, and come back to it a few times a year.
But overall, it seems like nothing realy matters in the game. Specially when I'm doing something solo.
Hell.. I'm playing Elite Dangerous and there thing I do on my own seem to have more impact... Grind Dangerous! has this!
So then when friends join it's double the fun.
While Sea of Thieves is mostly only "fun" with friends
Captain Falcore The Movie
Episode 7
“Don’t worry, I have connections” Mr. Falcore said.
Captain Falcore flew away to old faithful island (his favorite island). There he found strange inhabitants. They were beautiful, and they were buccaneers. “Perfect” caption falcy said as he kissed their moist belly buttons. “Come with me” he said. They walked to the water, but suddenly, fishstick (from Fortnite) grabbed one of the buccaneers from the water and dragged him down. His screams of agony ceased as his lungs filled with water, ripping the life from his now cold, limp body.
“Oh no!” The falcon man said! “Everyone hide in your sea of thieves season 14 chest disguises!”
It didn’t work. The Fortnite was getting closer. Captain Falcore must use a dark power, one he swore never to use again.
Captain falcon cranked 90s. He thought he was winning, but the Fortnite was a dexterous adversary. He too was building. Soon the build battle encompassed the entirety of old faithful island. The Falconman had no choice but to detonate the nuclear bomb on old faithful island. Old faithful was destroyed, and symbolically destroying the mob’s faith in the falcon man. They wanted their money back, and they wanted it back now.
I know a lot of people say that they are making a Sea of Thieves 2 but I don’t think that would work due to the fact lots of people have put money and time into the current game. They will probably start to add a new version of the game in which you can spend gold to get better/more powerful items. Making there a better reason to make gold rather than just cosmetics
Quit back when the Disney PoTC update released and never looked back. My main problem was as a pvp game, the pvp mechanics sucked ass. The ship
Combat was great when it happened but the 1.5 hours of chasing a random sloop to engage combat the first place was annoying.
The game and devs heavily favored camping and toxic behaviors that literally any other game out there were against
they mass banned hundreds of players in 2020 over a single on-stream spawn camping incident, simply not true from you.
they needed to up ships per server cap, put a cooldown on server hopping, and shut down alliance servers.
all kinda irrelevant tho since its inevitable, the devs changed their vision of the game halfway through and polarized their playerbase while trying to give the game a story and not expanding on the risk/reward looting and retention incentives like world events and unique encounters
what the game needs is dedicated pve servers. there's far too big a divide between those who love pvp, and those who wanna play this game as an island-hopping, pirate adventure game. the combat is buggy as all hell, and if you ask me, isn't even that good a system in the first place.
For me it is cheaters. Nothing is done to combat them. I remember doing hourglass, and right after we matched but before the surfacing, enemy clown spawns directly on my ship and start running and killing us while we are still immobile. Peak gaming
Ive been playing this game for 6 years, watching this game slowly wither away hurts me because I love this game. The only reason Ive played for so many years, through all the problems and let downs, is because this game has a soul, it offers an experience that no other game can ever offer. But the final straw was when they rolled back this last season. I was excited, I wanted to use these new tools, and then half didnt make it into live, and the other were pulled, leaving us with worse performance, and nothing new. I will be retiring my sea legs until rare does meaningful fixes to not only the game, but their development cycle. Something I have little hope for.
I’m seeing a lot of people talking about g about arena, I didn’t have the game during arena days, but I feel like an easy solution would be to make it similar to hourglass, but imagine a system where you get a bigger circle than hourglass pvp, but you also get different mini game modes (capture the flag, but it’s a skull or something, naval TDM, on foot TDM) with just a set timer before the game switches, you can use the “scuttle and change seas” to get back to adventure, and make it so new players are constantly able to join, so the smaller a server is, say 6 galleons worth of players max, you’re still part of your crew, but it divides teams to make them as fair as possible, and the fewer players on a server, the higher priority it has to get more players to join.
TLDR: So it’s just a constant rotation of games with balanced teams and the ability for anyone to join at any time, and their ship will just pop up like it’s hourglass, leaving using a crew vote
Thank you SOT!! I had an incredible addiction to your game. I had 140+days invested. Got so frustrated I lost interest. I couldn’t find another game to take its place.
I started walking after work back in the spring. I have lost nearly 35 pounds over the summer. This past weekend I summited three peaks in Acadia National Park. I admired the actual sea.
Not being a smart ass. Genuinely thankful.
Naaaah you can be a little bit a smartass over it! That is incredible mate, in a way them royally fucking up has helped you so much!
Arena could be a PVP area around Sea Dog Tavern and have it a king of the Hill type capture and hold mechanic. Not a separated instanced thing like the Arena used to be. Make it worth more for smaller ships to hold and have seasonal rewards alongside the Plunder Pass to make it fresh. People not as savvy with PVP can avoid it and it may also make Reaper's Hideout a little more spicy to turn in at too. The entire center of the map would become PVP focused yet still an open sandbox as a whole.
And please Rare, do something with The Devil's Roar. Make it worthwhile to go there again. Ashen Chest of Fortune or something at Molten Sands. Make it player activated like FotD (maybe with a cooldown so it can't be stacked/farmed)
I personally don't usually comment or even express my opinion, but I truly want to speak up in regards to the whole situation. Personally I'm dreadfully bored of the map, it's the same points of interests, the same waves, the same slow boring wind. It's my second favorite game of all time right behind dayz. Come to think of it now... imagine Sea Of Thieves + modding community...endless possibilities
Well said
One interesting things about SOT and other lore following games in how the story changes and evolves over time, which then updates the world. You then have new and returning players who miss that more simplistic original story and mechanics which made it accessible and engaging. I come back every few months and have to get up to speed with everything, where I'd rather continue tall tales etc.
I have NEVER met a SINGLE person who isn't a content creator or isn't a die-hard SoT player who actually likes talltales. They are boring, require the player to engage in "reading" and "puzzle solving". The pacing is slow. The story is uninteresting. The actual "cinematics" are only cool in a vacuum, which we don't live in and are very small/nothing special when compared to most other games cinematics/set-pieces (mostly referring to single player games).
To the casual player, there is nothing enjoyable about talltales. People hear "pirate game" and they come for swashbuckling and ship battles. And then they join just to find out it's just a First-Person Shooter with in-your-face gunplay _(worst kind of gunplay)_ where the shootouts might as well be in a school hallway (cause the ships are small and no cover/room for movement).
The biggest problem is SoT has an identity crisis. That's why it doesn't have anything really to do. It wants to be a Pirate Game but its pirate combat might as well be CoD/CoD zombies. It wants to be a PvP game but the PvP scares players off because the combat mechanics are annoying so rare disincentifies it by PvE events and making the ships annoying to stock supplies with and have only 5 ships per server max. It wants to be a PvE game but has no sense of progression because they don't want to make the game unbalanced for PvP so all reward are cosmetics, regardless of if you already locked in the look for everything or not. It wants to be a sandbox but the sandbox is kinda just. . . underwhelming where most you can actually do to effect the world is just "loot" and "kill very VERY basic AI programming". All of this combined with commendations that are designed to be tedious because the one thing this game ACTUALLY wants to be is a games-as-a-service/live-service title, which, itself, isn't an actual form of "identity".
I played through all the talltales & loved them. New talltales are the only thing that I would come back & play the game for.
@@ninjagrayfox166 Well then you ain't a SoT player. :/
You want a different game entirely.
@@Hadeks_Marow I wan more talltales, thought I made that pretty clear.
@@ninjagrayfox166 Yeah, but that's not the same as engaging with the main game. It's the equivalent of only playing minecraft when it has cross-over tie-in events on bedrock with ben 10, transformers or mario. You aren't legitimately playing minecraft at that point as it simply isn't what the game is about if that's the only medium you engage by.
This topic is referring to actual players of the game. "Single Person" refers to "of the core playerbase". A non-statistical datapoint; not part of the topic.
@@Hadeks_Marow When I was playing i bought the season pass & several skin packs, so I was contributing to the game. Keep gatekeeping your dying game, we'll see how that goes for ya.
As they said in one of the previous videos, they do not care about fixing the game it doesn't bring new players, old fashion players like us are completely forgotten by the devs and shows how they give a shit about their community, Removing arena was till this day the shittiest decision they took
i hop in every few months, get sunk while doing some quest then wait for a different pirate game better suited to what i want, it never arrives and the cycle continues
I quit playing when I was being attacked by a player ship, the Kraken spawned around us and pulled every crew member off the ship, and a ghost ship and Meg spawned, all within 30 seconds.
The community and rare are the most disconnected after, found that out today on reddit -_-. The hard way.
When we ask lore we get server mess, and we we ask server improvement dear are deaf it seems like, time to play nice is over... let show theam we real Pirates!
The Sea of thieves subreddit is a terrifying echo chamber. For your health, avoid it.
this is a very sad time mateys
all we can do is remember
remember the brotherhood
remember the sails
godspeed, pirates.
Can't have a dynamic, alive, evolving world, while also axing time limited content. No FOMO results in a more static game world, it is what it is
Truth. I'm starting to lose faith that they will add good content. They've spent sooo much time on now dead things. I feel like we're going backwards. How sad is it that the skeleton thrones are more impactful than 50% of what they've added since then.... It's bad, real bad
I’m a day one player and sadly I don’t play anymore. 😢 the magic of the game is gone. I rarely have an interaction with anyone. It takes 45 minutes of diving to find anyone doing anything. I miss the old sot
this is my only problem. if i could at least just hop in and see a thriving sever filled with people, id actually want to try and avoid people or maybe fight them but atm the choice is gone. you sail around for so long its not a choice or other players choices its just there is a fight finally and you have been waiting to see anyone for 30 minutes
That's the main reason me and my crew stopped playing, cruising an empty server isn't fun at all.
I started playing SoT around August of 2020. Everyone was locked in and my friends had told me about it, so I bought it and began playing with them. I was very quickly whisked away by the wonders of this world, having the insane experience of being shown the Pirate Legend hideout on day one, by a guy who was still wearing sailor clothes. It took me a while to pick up on the ways of the world beneath the simple-seeming voyages, but once I had figured it out the game kept me for about three years. I've poured hundreds of hours into the game, and while I wasn't ever the best and missed out on plenty of major events, I still felt like I had a place. Once the seasons were added, with captaincy, and even the newer collaboration tall tales, the game started to lose its charm. I'm still enamored with the original world, the four regions with the pirate lord tall tales, the deep sea exploration of uncharted islands like k-9 and whatever the other one was. Hell, I had the entire map memorized for a good while, being able to tell what an island was from a good distance. I loved sailing around, even though it became tedious. Now that diving exists? I feel like it takes away from the world I once knew. That was something only shown off by skeleton ships, vessels of the dead surfacing to tear you and your ship a new one. But now it was as simple as penning a destination down on your table? It feels wrong, looking at all the new things. I wasn't excited for the newer weapons either. The core four weapons felt like a solid foundation that didn't and shouldn't need expansion. (That part is just my opinion, as is all of this, but I'm truly not fond of the expansion on weapons even though I love weapon variety in other games). I uninstalled the game October of this year, once I saw that they added what to me looked like stealth emotes, where you could move around in a chest or barrel. It felt wrong already having the ability to dress in all black and lay down in a tiny nook on a ship, but to me that seemed like a different level of just... unsavory gameplay. I'm out of touch now, for the most part, with Sea of Thieves, but occasionally gameplay pops up in my feeds. It just looks so different from what I used to know. Especially with whatever the grappling harpoon is.
I loved this game a lot. I still love its world. But it feels bloated now. Even things that should be considered part of the game, such as the expansions on the reapers hideout and legend hideout seem odd, the hourglass parts of it at least. The game feels barred to me, especially as a solo player. I'm not good with combat, never have been with this game, but it feels as though those who didn't experience arena with friends or do bloodlusted voyages got left behind when it comes to pvp. Or I'm just bad, which is probably the case, but it doesn't help that pvp was only pushed and pushed and pushed into the game more and more with all the quality of life editions that made things faster. It seemed as though Rare wanted people to enjoy less of the scenery and world and instead they wanted people to just fight.
I think the true death of my love for the game itself was the Monkey Island tall tale series. Linear stories in games is something I love, I've replayed plenty of stories and campaigns because I enjoyed the singleplayer aspect and world building most provide. But those tall tales shattered me. And only a portion of it was due to the content. I think the actual activities were fine, but I found the overall tall tales to feel soulless and draining to play through. It didn't feel like I was playing a game with them. Those left the worst taste in my mouth before I departed, due to how unfinished they felt compared to the rest of the game, especially the tall tale series that came before.
Anyway, if you've taken the time to read all that, thank you. I would like to tack on a reminder that I still love the world of SoT. It's beautiful, it has and hopefully always will be, but the game is starting to get bloated. I missed out on many things, and perhaps that's why I can't bring myself to stick around like other veterans of the game, even if I'm only a veteran by time and not skill. But the world and concepts have stuck with me, and will stick with me. Rare made an amazing world, a truly unique experience that I will be hard pressed to see replicated on the seas in a similar format. I don't want it to die out, so I thank those of the old community, the only real lifeblood the game has in its playerbase. You folks are those that keep this ship afloat, even if our captains are a little misguided now.
I started played in 2020 and stopped in 2024. Got tired of the constant lies about improved performance and bug squashes. Didn't like the fact that Rare started pandering to the ADHD, PVE only crowd instead of the players who kept them afloat for years. Don't expect improvements, they're not coming.
This.
"ADHD crowd" that's the perfect way of summing them up. Whenever I go into open crew I can tell who only plays pvp, because they will endlessly sprint around the ship or run around and shoot you, and I just want to ask them, how's that ADHD doing ya?
SoT was Rare's attempt to defy the image of your typical GaaS game.
I think for the most part they've always made it stand out and showed passion in ways that felt unique.
Those first 3-4 years felt really special but I just don't think games like this, published in an industry such as the one we have right now, have a net positive effect on its dev studio.
I genuinely don't know if SoT is good for Rare anymore. I don't know if the GaaS model is good for Rare anymore.
All of this feels like a short sighted model that doesn't benefit generation spanning support from a single developer,
who used to have a reputation for their vast and diverse catalogue of colorful games.
Every pirate emporium update feels like a last resort effort to keep their doors open and to keep Xbox at bay for another year.
Every season feels like an entire team of people struggling to re-invent support for the foundation of something that already exists,
when that same time could've been spend creating something new and special.
I miss the old Rare. I don't miss it the way that old Banjo or DKC fans miss it.
I miss it for the sake of those developers that have so much potential and shouldn't be confined to an online game that hasn't felt unique since roughly 10 fotm like Lethal Company.
I don't even need a new Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong Country, Viva Pinata or Grabbed By The Ghoulies. I don't even need Yooka-Laylee.
I just want Rare to make "Rareware". I wanna see the passion and diversity of this studio again.
i'm gonna be honest, i disagree with most of your points (as usual). you say the playerbase aren't the ones getting bored, the developers are, then turn around and say the updates are shallow and don't bring enough content to the game. this game has SO MUCH content already - there is NOTHING stopping ANYONE from playing and enjoying the content for literal YEARS. the ONLY thing to be worried about with SoT are the performance issues and bugs/delays with majour updates - both of which could be easily fixed by shifting majour content updates away from being synced with Season releases. keep Seasons around, and monthly patches with Emporium and Outpost drops, but release the actual content updates whenever they're ready instead of tying it directly to seasons
Mate you are delusional, many voyages are just copy paste, many world events are a cake walk, towards end game the only real viable thing to do is fotd and honestly the community is full of arseholes just out there to ruin other people their days
Thing is that the content isn't very meaningful. All activities like Sea Forts or Treasure Vaults are pretty shallow and locked behind easy to solve puzzles.
Not to mention that a lot of activitiws feel samey
Its 113 GB now. And you dont feel it.
6 years and I finally pulled the plug and uninstalled. The state of the game is terrible. New features and shit they add are meaningless if the servers suck and you're stuttering around and not enjoying the experience.
We're still locked at 5 (or 6 is it? They change this constantly without telling) ships per server. They even lowered the spawning so you cant get full galleons anymore. It will be a mix of mostly sloops and maybe a brig or galley if you're lucky.
They overpowered the sloop and made the multi-crew Galleon a slog.
I dunno. Imo, Id rather pay for or have them launch Sea of Thieves 2:
-UE 5.5
-Bigger world.
-Better ships.
-Better ship customization
-A social hub where players can dock their ships, play games (poker/dice - gamble), form crews, socialize, advertise for guilds.
-Bigger guilds (wtf were they thinking at a 24 player cap or whatever? My guild has to run 3 just to keep people in).
-Guild only activities.
Drop the low-gen support. The old xbox prolly wont run this game as well anyways.
The biggest problem they made for themselves was water physics. Its why everything is bottlenecked. And its a shame. Hope UE 5.5 upgrade could help them with that..
But they wont do it. Cause I guess Microsoft doesnt care?
I'm sorry, but all I am hearing is: "I'm a veteran of the game, I have poured thousands of hours into the game, but now I am bored and you haven't put in anything new for me so I am sad."
What is wrong with content for veteran players? It is a live service game
I want you to reread your comment but slowly… Because how can you contradict yourself this badly.
Right, no game can stand up to people who literally make it their job to play it every day for years upon years. The solution is to touch grass.
That's not what this video is about though, it's more about Rare not sticking to a lane
I put 5k+ hours into the game between 2019 and 2022 however over the past couple years but I've completely stopped playing because I grew tired of the lack of performance based fixes (hit reg), gradual removal of skill gap in PvP and their handling of Arena. Saw this come across my recommended and I'm glad a prominent figure is trying to raise some of these issues and more that have plagued the game for years. Often see posts come across my twitter feed about the deteriorating state of the game and it's really sad not much has changed since I stopped playing. I hope they manage to turn things around but I lost any faith in Rare a long time ago and have just accepted the game will never fulfil it's potential.
Here’s the REAL PROBLEM: “We will never make a PvE only option” *Rare hires DEI team* “Safer Seas will be a great way to include EVERYONE”. Meanwhile, the seas are emptier than ever. *Rare makes every previous exclusive cosmetic available to everyone*. Players feel completely betrayed in a game where cosmetics are everything. *Rare’s new DEI hires and initiatives allow under qualified devs to make spaghetti code even more broken instead of hiring highly capable and experienced devs to make the game better. All in the name of “equality”. Crazy. Just make a good game like you did when you had different priorities. Don’t push other agendas.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
The moment you mentioned DEI I stopped listening, shut up man
Ooooooo the agendaaaasss they are lurkinnnnng and eating the dooooogs that are theeere 👻👻👻👻
I miss Sea of Thieves, but either my computer is crap (possible - it was good when I built it in 2020, but technology marches on), or instability/performance issues is affecting me more than anything, because trying to sail makes me feel something akin to seasickness because of the flickering frames of the sea. I miss when the sea was smooth and beautiful for me.
I really appreciate YOU. Captain! One of the biggest OGs in the game. I just ranted to chap about this. So thankful to hear you bring up the veterans, we need something! The majority hasn't felt the appreciation that we used to. This is our favorite game and will always be bugs and all. It's just not the same as it used to be.
Man o man, I literally was almost going to cry with this one Captain Falcore, as you hit the nail on the head, and with that background music it was perfect. I feel exactly the same with everything you mentioned for a game which I have loved for the past almost 7 years and still adore until this day! I for one will not give up on SOT, but hope the developers take your feedback and many others to heart and fix their game once and for all....
The fact that someone can say "quality of life update" like it's an insult is revolting to me. That's my favorite kind of update! I'd much rather have all those tiny annoyances relieved, little details reworked and improved, and overall feel upgraded than the big flashy bullshit that doesn't even work half the time or simply doesn't fit my preferences/playstyle, making me sit on the sidelines abandoned with my cozy little content while everyone's drooling over the new stuff, simply because it's new.
I was a day 1 player. I stopped playing 2 years ago. This upload is needed, Rare hope you are hearing this
Played at launch, noticed the Monkey Island-esque world and loved it. I was a big Monkey Island fan in the early 90's. Grew tired pretty quickly and didn't play for years. Now my Son is about to turn 8 and saw "this cool pirate game" and would you believe it there's a Monkey Island homage expansion. I am in! It's breathed a whole new lease of life into the game, particularly watching my Son enjoy a game, kind of, I adored as a kid. So I fall once again into the new player bracket and I love it.