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- Before we get into the grand finale of Is #ComicsGate Wrong? I went ahead and addressed the most interesting counter-arguments sent my way. Watch to the end...I've tossed in a little hint on what the FINAL BATTLE will cover.
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Congratulations, an anime that was kind of meant to be a joke about the hero genre was deeper than anything that the American comic industry is currently managing. Way to go, folks.
No one said that a joke couldn't be deep 😉
Sucks that Japan has a habit or working their own people into early graves.
They supply the world with content others used to produce themselves, like how we used to have action cartoons but now if you want animated heroes being actual heroes you need a Crunchyroll subscription.
The best modern superhero works are both mangas. My Hero Academia and One Punch Man.
@@yagamifire7861 both are good but anime/manga culture usually overrates its media. They are excellent manga but not as good as some people claim.
That's kind of insulting to my hero aca. The person that draws the manga has great respect for the industry. Him drawing about American comics is him honoring his childhood and his adoration of those icons. Please get your facts right before you call something a joke.
With the way american comics are right now, it's no surprise that they're churning out garbage compared to eastern comics. Granted, the east got their own bloated bullshit, but last I checked, I can't read about an alien girl learning to appreciate human foods in an american comic. It's all the same shit over with the west. Christ.
This series is really good for aspiring writers. As my dad says, "You can learn as much from someone who doesn't know what they're doing to someone that does."
Sounds like a variation on "The wise learn more from fools, than fools do from the wise, for the wise shun the mistakes of the foolish, but the foolish do not imitate the successes of wisdom." Still works though.
“It is important to draw wisdom from different places. If you take it from only one place it become rigid and stale.”
-General Iroh
As for the OPM manga (Murata's not One's)
The Title is One-punch man
The very first page (cover page) is Saitama's powered-up fist.
The next page is a catastrophic explosion.
Next few pages are build-up with the destruction
Saitama Watches on the news
And then we get the iconic walk where he goes to stop the monster.
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OPM uses significantly more space, but it's all in service of something
That walk is so iconic I make that pose sometimes at work. And my coworkers recognize it.
Murata's art is also so great. He works wonders with one's story.
17:29 - 17:45 THIS is why I can't stand Carol Danvers as Captain Marvel.
When you compare her to the original Captain Marvel of Marvel Comics, Cpt. Mar-vell of the Kree, you can see that Carol doesn't even come close. What's funny is they possess similar origins: they both grew up in the military and were exceptionally talented in their fields.
But take a look at where their stories diverge: Mar-vell is commanded by his superiors to attack and sabotage the Earth space programs to prevent Earth from becoming a threat to the Kree. Mar-vell refuses, knowing full well that refusing these orders would make him an outlaw. He willingly forfeited his entire career and home to do what he knew to be the right thing. Throughout his run, Mar-vell clearly establishes that he is willing to make any personal sacrifice to do the right thing, something which made him worthy of the title "Protector of the Universe," but also sadly cost him his life, as he died of cancer after being exposed to carcinogens while fighting a villian.
Now look at Carol, particularly the run of Carol under the writing of Kelley Sue DeConnick, Carol has become an arrogant, self-righteous hero who has decided it's her responsibility to protect the universe, even if it means, in the case of Civil War II, adopting authoritarian principles. In one comic, when a news reporter asks Carol if she could tell her past self anything, what would it be, and Carol answered, "I'd tell her she's right."
Mar-vell was the story of a soldier who realized he was on the wrong side of a war and changed his ways, even when doing so meant he would give up everything he ever knew. THAT'S what made him a hero.
Carol Danvers is the story of a woman with a SERIOUS power trip trying her best to control the universe, even if it means occasionally taking away people's freedom.
Carol Danvers shouldn't be called Captain Marvel; she doesn't deserve to wear that name.
Right? I didn't read much comics but I have been watching Comics UA-cam a lot, and everything Ihave heard about Monica Rambeau made her sound 10x the Captain Marvel Carol is. Carol had her best moments as Ms. Marvel from what I hear.
Makes the MCU choice to do Danvers odd to me, after the success of Black Panther why skip on another black superhero?
Eh the first Marvel Civil War basically assassinated the characters of Tony Stark, Reed Richards, and a few others so obviously the sequel nobody asked for would stay the course.
Hell yeah! Mar-Vell squad!
I grew up reading 70s and 80s comics and I must say that the modern Captain Marvel's personality is nothing like the Carol Danvers of that time period. She was pretty cool back then, a hero who worked with other heroes and who would fight for what is right. She was obviously a feminist woman, but not this weird intersectional sjw feminism.
@@munstrumridcully the term you're looking for is "third wave feminism". The OG Carol Danvers was a second wave feminist, and rightly so.
I mean, I could postpone my sleep to watch another good Literature Devil...yeah sure, why not
Your points are, as always, beautiful angles on the topic. But I was surprised that you omitted one especific difference between other media and comics -it makes sense as you were more focused in the artistic merit, but I wanted to mention it: the binge consuming only makes sense because they are already paid for. You already paid for Netflix. It costs nothing to binge-watch it, even going through filler and mediocre episodes. But you need to buy every single comic separatedly... unless they're going just for the online readers who pay a subscription to Marvel and/or DC to read their comic-books. And that doesn't make any frigging sense.
Constructor de Críticas well either that or the graphic novels which are essentially multiple issues packed into one
The first portion of this video could be it's own separate thing: how the Netflix streaming subscription model is changing the way we digest media en masse. And that is a completely separate thing from Comics. Not complaining, I love your stuff, but you could branch out and talk about other non-comics related stuff in media and entertainment, you seem extremely intelligent and well spoken. Keep it up!
Thanks. I'm planning on doing just that after this series is over
It's not only comics, even novels lately has become so unnecessarily lengthy and without much content. I wanna cry.
It'll probably change again soon, At max a decade or two.
I've accidentally binged David Eddings's Belgariad series. But it was enjoyable and fun to read.
(Cough) Song of Ice and Fire (cough)
Seriously, though, Charles Dickens was more to the point, and look at how his novel were released...
@@ZenoDovahkiin Well, it is a massive story but every chapter offers something substantial. There are other novels that waste page after page adding nothing to the plot, the characters, or the world itself, having the depth of a fifty page story stretched over 300 just to appear more legitimate
Belagriad comment to the point. But even first book of Harry Potter -vs- last book. What an absolute change of focus. And don't get me started on SciFi, Honor Harrington series devolved from a first person perspective into a pseudo-analytical space diplomacy series with myriad of meaningless characters.
In the end, I blame the editors more then the writers.
Does...does no one realize that Saitama’s motivation for training and being a hero in the first place was because he wanted to help people?
People forget about that all the time
Wait, wasn't it about the emotion of fighting and being more and more strong every time?
They are shallow and look for straw men to support their shallow analysis.
@@DarthFhenix55 what sparked that was him instinctively saving a kid from a monster even though he was just a normal man who couldn't even find a job, it wasn't purely for the thrill of fighting, the thrill was just a bonus he helped people even before he was The One Punch Man.
Only the manga non-fans.
29:06 So I recently rewatched the first season of Doctor Who, and until then I didn't realize why I loved Eccleston so much. It's because every episode connects to the overarching plot. They can stand on their own, but the whole season is constantly building to a final showdown in the last episode. Early on it introduces characters and relationships that show up down the line, but more impressive than all of they is how they all connect to the Doctor. He's just traveling around the universe doing his thing. But the events of each episode are either setting up for that showdown, or they're a consequence of the time war. Even when it wasn't entirely caused by the time war you see the Doctor's nature as a Time Lord come up if the war itself doesn't.
So that's why the first season of Doctor Who is so good, it makes a good first impression and uses everything it has to build a satisfying story.
The Answer to the riddle.
Characters.
I was actually going to say "meaning".
Even more important: characters we can respect even if we don't agree with what they're doing.
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No, it's called doing market research on the people you intend to make money off of. Editors would surely help too to corral the writers.
Nah, I actually agree with @RufroX9. It comes down to Occam's razor.
Names have different applications in different circumstances, but the one thing they all have in common is a desire to convey meaning of some sort. In addition, they may mean different things to different people.
There used to be a rule of thumb in writing - the first 5 pages should give you a feel for whether you want to read the book or not. If this can hold for a "cinematic style plot" of a novel, then why shouldn't this hold for comics?
I could use that for going through my comic collection. Got a longbox and a half of issues to read.
As a publisher and a writer I can tell you If a story doesn't work in the first 3-5 pages you're not getting a sale. Sadly most of today's comic writers don't understand this.
Hell, the Three Episode rule for Anime is the same for me. If you can't at least make me interested in SOMETHING from your show, I'm out. It doesn't have to be great, but you need to make me care or intrigued in some way.
Since you already mentioned One Punch Man.... just look at manga.... A huge number of them are serialized issues, a few pages published every week. While every issue doesn't need to have a fresh new story every time, it does need some kind of hook or story development to keep the reader (and by extension the magazine) interested.... And still manga artists know about the importance of a good introduction and a solid first issue.
Manga artists are pressured into delivering good chapters right at the start, of the series, reason being because if the series doesnt get popular quick at the start it´ll get axed. In the West most comic book artists have been losing this sense of pressure to deliver good writting so they deliver bad stuff, their work environment probably doesnt help them delivering a great writting work either with SJWtard nonsense going on at some of the places.
They need to stop bringing real life politics into their works like this it ruins the comic industry.
You don't have to take it as far as rotten fruit. If someone promises you a Birthday cake and give you a delicious tart you might still be disappointed and at least ask about it. The response to that question is the telling thing. :) "Sorry. I ran out of ingredients and time. Hope you like the tart and I'll make a cake later. Okay?" versus "HOW DARE YOU! @&#^%*#^#!" lol
The punisher's logic seems reasonable enough.
If you are powerful and skilled enough to kill all the criminals in the city, the only one with sin, the only criminal left, is yourself.
So long as you stay alive, sane and firmly maintain your principles, the overworld will remain safe.
Until you have nothing more left to punish and you suffer a dilemma.
Punisher is kinda out for revenge mostly. I dont think he believes that he can kill all the criminals. I dont think he has this idea that he can clean it all up.
Either he subconsciously knows he will never be done and so he figures his eventual death is a clear stopping point, (He has done all he can, so he is absolved of responsibility from that point forward.) or he doesn't stop long enough to consider that. (Because doing so ends his momentum to keep going, to keep living, and forces him to actually try to process what happened.) The Punisher has always been an interesting character archetype to me. Especially since in some cultures (ancient ones mostly, and a majority of them by the full measure of history) he would indisputably be a hero. But of course in the modern world he is a problem, since he undermines rule of law by his actions. For 'action hero kills the criminals' as a basic idea, the writers have done a lot with it.
I've noticed a theme among many "diversity" characters produced by Marvel in recent years related to the lack of heroism. In order to be heroic, the protagonist needs not only a compelling antagonist but a villain. Certainly there is conflict in those stories, but there is something essential lacking. Why would any reader care about Spider-Man, Iron Man, or the Punisher without Venom, the Kingpin, Whiplash, the Mandarin, Jigsaw, or Ma Gnucci? The lack of conflict or challenge is a problem for Saitama because the readers don't have to be told that a hero cannot be heroic without a villain who is a mortal threat. Otherwise, how heroic is the protagonist if the Call to Adventure is against a minor annoyance? This problem is similar to the response about video game "reviewer" who beat Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice by using cheats, except the critique will substitute gameplay for storytelling:
You cheated not only the reader, but your hero.
Your hero didn't grow.
Your hero didn't improve.
Your hero took a shortcut and gained nothing.
Your hero experienced a hollow victory.
Nothing was risked and nothing was gained.
It's sad that you don't know what a hero is.
Perhaps it is a more specific critique against a Mary Sue, but the Marvel writers of Ms Marvel and Ironheart cheated the hero out of fighting a villain. As it is, Ms Marvel and Ironheart were the the source of their own conflicts. Kamala Kahn and Riri Williams are their own villains and Marvels have cheated their heroes out of their Hero's Journey. Would I care if Luke Skywalker had a lightsabre if there were no Darth Vader? Would I care if Frodo had a magic ring if there was no Sauron? Marvel's heroes have been cheated out of their Hero's Journey and any reason that I would care about them.
Superhero stories require a good amount of Eastern duality in their heroes and villains.
@@kulturkriget Only thing I don't see with real conflict is those episodic slice of life comic strips, usually aiming to turn every day things into a joke. But those aren't meant to be drawn out, they're just supposed to be like one page of a certain amount of panels. [you also need to know how to tell a funny story]
They are the easiest thing to make and usually what people do when starting off on Tapastic by what I've seen.
I suppose part of the problem is the lack of identifiable evil, they don't define good or evil but just state things or people are evil without manifesting that evil into motivations or traits.
Conversely there is a lack of identifiable good, people are just good without identifiable virtues.
I think the authors ascribe to a shallow idea of morality, where a cause or fight is good as opposed to the ends of that fight with the cause and movement being a means to an end rather than an identity.
They see the civil liberties movement as the good rather than the tool to achieve virtuous ends.
Thus it's all hollow and superficial, looking like what they think is good rather than being good.
In Saitama's case, Saitama proves that he has what it takes to be a hero despite the villains being very weak to him. Going back to the first episode, we see that Saitama is willing to put his life on the line to pursue heroism before he developed his powers, and that he still fights villains despite how monotonous and unrewarding it all is to him. The heroism doesn't stem from the villains themselves in Saitama's case, but how despite how unrewarding being a hero is to him, he'd still rather be the world's hero for fun.
@@Lethargy514 Saitama desperately wanted to recapture that feeling of triumph later and dreamed about facing foes that were a match for him. Without that element of a mortal threat from a villain, he feels disappointed - even when he’s doing all of the things a hero ought to do. When there are no enemies around, what does he do? Watch TV, clip coupons, etc. Even if they are weak, he wants and needs villains to be a hero - even for fun.
I would argue superhero stories are unique because they have to be about the character. Ang Lee's Hulk used the Hulk to tell an interesting story, and it failed, because he didn't understand that he needed to tell a Hulk story.
"Each character is their own genre." I think you have identified what makes superhero stories what they are.
I like this comment.
"Each character is their own genre" isn't only a concept, we can *see* it in action thanks to the DC cinematic universe. A lot of people are upset at the universe not being anything like the iconic characters, built up through comics, shows, other movies, etc.
I myself complain about DCEU's Batman being way too trigger-happy and killing people left and right, so this point really struck home.
@@SoftisNelaris Grant Morrison introduced an idea called Hypertime, where (if I understand him correctly) each hero sort of existed in their own separate bubble that occasionally connected with other "bubbles" of hypertime. That's why earth shaking events in the Justice League rarely had any impact on, say, Blue Beetle in New Mexico.
@@SoftisNelaris Also, isn't interesting we can have steampunk Batman, Batman of the future, even that 60's retro-camp Batman show, and they're all somehow *Batman* ... in a way that the trigger happy murder Batman wasn't.
(The 60's Batman was the one that blew my mind. The archetype can comfortable stretch into THAT? Yes. Yes it can.)
I was waiting for a gum joke when Trident popped up!
Terrible that all of this needs explaining step-by-step when the message is simple and self-explanatory.
- Don't waste the audience's time (and your company's money) on pages that don't contribute to the story.
- Audiences want likable characters and interesting stories that involve them doing cool stuff.
may be just me but these new comics with "inclusive" agenda are quite exclusive.
Holder of power through hardship and loss from the old comics, vs **rightfully owner** of power through right of birth and being, from these new comics.
Spiderman, Superman, Batman, etc. people losing someone or everything not succumbing to their human nature and seeking vengeance, but learning and powering through grief, promising themselves to work hard so nobody else has to endure the same, that is timeless writing to me and something that as an average Joe can sympathize with.
Becoming a superhero because i'm a super genius living in a nice household with all my family unconditionally loving me and each other and on top of that bored, excuse me but that doesn't make me like him, makes me despise him. And how about those empty vessels whose only purpose is to carry the tags "black, gay, strong woman, minority, independent, bi, etc" how do you sympathize with a trait based on preference? i'm mexican and it rustles my scrotum every time people forgets who i am as a person in favor of "what" i am, and if i see that reflected in media as well, i just say fuck it i don't care for these people
You have substance, it sounds like. Remind me to buy you a drink if we ever meet.
To me it has a lot to do with hope they tell the story.
There's a good amount of anime that uses the argument of "the chosen one", but they make it work.
Mexican here, que onda
I also find it hilarious that these are the same people that yell out against 'stereotypical' characters and yet that's all they can create.
@@deepcut7788 They are exclusive by nature, white people are also inclusive to others and can support diversity, but the SJWtards twisted the whites into meanies in their comics.
@@deepcut7788 because the main lead of Moonlight was a complex character with conflicts, he was a person before a preference
If I was a movie director or producer I would pick you to be one of the screenwriters.
This is why I believe Captain Marvel was a success at box office. Everyone watch it because it is a piece of the End Game story line. Even though it was basically a remake of DC's Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds.
Yeah, everyone who saw the movie, know was going to be filler... but since was filler for such an important movie like endgame we have to watch it anyway... even if it was very boring
@@jeffblacklight104 Keep in mind as well that Disney basically did EVERYTHING THEY COULD to protect Captain Marvel. it wasn't just that it was stuck before Endgame, but it was also all the endless shill articles, forcing Rotten Tomatoes to change, and of course parading around Brie Larson everywhere.
Dont forget to add in the Anti-sjws who told they were boycotting the movie and still went to watch for views and subs.
I love that intro. Also I am a very big fan of your work as it makes me think about comics in a light different that what I usually do.
Look at Deku in My Hero Academia. He starts off with no powers, yet the hero All Might, sees that Deku is a hero. His feet carry to save others, even when he cannot save himself.
The Japanese writers understand this essence of heroism. Superman epitomizes it. So does Batman.
It doesn't matter how powerful you are. It matters what you fight for.
Superman could be in a situation where he experiences no challenge at all. He's Superman, a god among men, but he cares about people and protects them. Likewise he will face threats like Darkseid who could actually kill him, and he does so for that same reason, because he cares about people and protects them. He fights so others don't have to, and because they can't.
Ultimately if your characters don't care, your readers won't either.
I think the irony of the idea is that modern comics are meant to binged is that even TV Pilots for series that are heavily serialized tend to have more content than either Mrs. Marvel or Ironheart #1. I think a good example would be the pilot of Breaking Bad in the first few minutes before the credits we get so much. We have driving an RV in his underwear who uses a camcorder but insist that the recording is not a confession (Establishing that the fact he does not regret anything he does) and that man has a family and is about to attempt suicide by cop. Then by the end of story, we have a plot, a conflict, a main character, and a supporting cast. The thing about pilots also is that they need to be complete enough to see if the story can be successful. If the network thinks a pilot can't work they don't bother pouring money into a series based on that pilot. That is problem with modern Marvel comics they green-light pretty much everything without properly reviewing it first.
Arrow is also a great example of a pilot.
To expand on a point from the beginning. Marvel, and really the entire entertainment industry, don't just feel entitled to your attention and time, but your praise. They basically EXPECT praise and more important than that, expect money. Because Marvel may be comics, but it is far more than that. I'm going to just set aside whether or not the entertainment industry actually BELIEVES in all this nonsense they spout so often, and look at it from a more logical, business-like POV:
To start, most (keyword *most* ) people at least in Western society are in fact, perfectly fine with diversity. To say they are not, is to basically assume 'guilt'. That the audience is, from the beginning, in the 'wrong' and they need to be told that they are wrong, so that they can be shown the 'correct' way. How does this work from a business angle? Well, it's about setting themselves up as the ones to show the 'correct' way. If they portray whatever they are making as being 'inclusive' and 'diverse', then that is the perfect line to use against anyone who would offer critique to what they are making.
Marvel, knows they are Marvel, and knows the brand recognition that brings in. Marvel is not simply comics. It is, to quote Yogurt, "Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising! Where da real money from da movie is made!" Comics are important, certainly, but they are only one cog in the machine of the Marvel entity. Because from there you can sell everything 'around' the comics. Action figures and other toys, video games, birthday party supplies, Halloween costumes, and really a million other things you could list off.
So, then we have things like the 'diverse' Marvel now. Which knows it is Marvel, but now also seems to believe that it is 'too big to fail'. They believe they're entitled to the same if not more profits as before and now have a useful tool with which to shut down criticism in the form of simply paying to have articles written (and yes, those endless shill/access media articles ARE bought and paid for, even indirectly) to declare everyone things like racists, sexists, 'alt-right trolls', 'Russian bots' and so on and so forth.
As for the employees of Marvel, well they've been roped into this whole thing, whether they want it or not. If they actually believe in the 'progressive' politics Marvel is putting out, well, then they're useful, and VERY expendable fall-people for them, as the moment that these politics are considered more of a risk rather than a reward, Marvel (assuming it lives that long, mind) will simply dump them out to have a 'new face' for Marvel. If they DO NOT believe in them, well, then Marvel probably put the 'Sword of Damocles' over their heads by threatening to fire them anyways if they did not fall in line (and on top of that may have made them sign an NDA to boot) to push these 'progressive' ideas (or at the very least, not counter them in any way), then they may yet still probably fire these people again for the same reason as before.
As an example...do you know the executive board members of Marvel off the top of your head? Don't look it up, but do you? Well, do you know who Mark Waid is? If not, no problem, but I suspect many people who DO know that name, know who he is and what he's involved in. He's just an employee of Marvel. Doesn't matter whether or not he believes in any of what he's pushed, the fact is, he may have used his connections to hurt someone else, probably with Marvel's weight backing him up. But the moment he is too much work or a risk, he will be fired.
Marvel (and any big corporation) are never the allies nor friends of any customer nor employee, at least not in the modern world. They will do whatever they feel is logical, and so long as it is legal, it will be done, no matter how many may otherwise be hurt in the process, no matter what else must be done, they will do it. However the problem is that large companies as I said above, believe they are 'too big to fail', that they cannot be brought down, and think that they can do as they wish without the general public. And to a degree they are correct, however, they have also forgotten that age-old adage of:
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time."
More fools they. Even if "too big to fail" is a real thing, it only applies to things that are in some sense necessities. We need banks, the petrochemical industry, utilities, the military-industrial complex, and maybe even pharmaceuticals. They can get bailouts. No one thinks that a comics or film industry collapse can bring down the economy or threaten national defense or the integrity of the healthcare system.
Now, the topic of expectations of new heroes under a well known legacy name is an interesting one.
Now I kinda want to see a good comparison and disection to show the major differences between the empty succession of the newer Marvel to an excellent example of a new hero taking on an old title. Like perhaps looking at the case of Terry McGinnis, the one who succeeded Bruce Wayne in the DCAU series Batman Beyond, and what he did right as a successor to the Batman label as opposed to the newer Marvel heroes and their respective legacies?
I would argue DC is a little better at making interesting successors over the years for characters that don't stay at the top. Alan Scott->Hal Jordan ->John Stewart->Kyle Raynor, Jay Garrick->Barry Allen->Wally West->Bart Allen, Johnny->Jonni Thunder, ALL the Robins, and so on.
I think the litmus test for any successors to a legacy names is, "Would this character be just as compelling without the legacy name?" That question probably includes copying a legacy character's powers. What if Terry McGinnis isn't the new Batman, but some other vigilante superhero? If Terry doesn't have access to Batman's "wonderful toys" is he still interesting? I think he probably is. It might take time for his new title to gain traction, but i.e. "The Night Stalker" would eventually attract the same audience that likes shadowy vigilante-types. Is the same true for the new Ms. Marvel, Iron Man, or Lady Thor? Change their names and divorce them from the parent backstory and you have a title that won't even make it to print. The descendant characters are forever dependent upon the legacy story. They can never have a life of their own.
In addition, most interesting characters are defined by how they are different from their the "identities", not how they represent them. Batman is not about a rich, white playboy looking for adventure. It's about a emotionally scarred dark knight that hides his heroic escapades behind a rich, white playboy mask. Superman may be a strange visitor from another planet, but he really just wants to be part of human society. If I'm writing a fantasy story and I introduce an elf character the most interesting elements of the character concept are not how much like an elf she is, but why she's different from all the other elves. If you wan to create characters with diverse backgrounds you should be ready to show why the gay character rejects the LGBT community, why the rape victim rolls her eyes at MeToo, and how the devote Muslim falls in love with an equally observant Jew. Now those character description aren't just window dressing. They are critical to the character's storyline. It's not much of a story to see the straight character reject LGBT, a sexist guy roll his eyes at MeToo, or even an irreverent Muslim loving a non-observant Jew.
@@niche0boven Also, Bruce Wayne -> Dick Grayson -> Damian Wayne -> Terry McGuiness
Wow I've watched about 3 videos and was surprised that this wasnt a hate filled video like most I've seen. Actually giving some good insight and arguments.
If you want to see hate , check the twitter of the Marvel pros. .Trust me ,some of them are insane.
As a wrier and a publisher I know from experience I only get one shot to make a first impression. In novels if my first three pages can't get the reader into the story, I'm not getting a sale. I understand that the audience's time is precious and money is valuable. With people having more entertainment options that give them a higher entertainment value per dollar like streaming services writers have less than ten seconds to get the reader's attention.
I write serialized stories and novels, with the entire story told in one volume whether it be 6 pages or 600. I give readers the good stuff from page one and try to leave them satisfied by the end of the book. My goal is to give the reader a satisfying reading experience so they can pick up the next book or the back books in the series.
Marvel's writers don't understand this. And that's why they can't make money selling comics. Marvel's writers take the audience for granted and doesn't appreciate their customers money. When an entire first issue is nothing but exposition the customer isn't spending their precious time or valuable money on your comics.
They think we will come back because of the brand, oh boy they are wrong. The brand means nothing if the product doesn't represent what the brand is know for. You won't go to McDonalds to get health food, if you go there and they give you that you probably won't come back.
What ever happened to having pilot episodes that contained the entirety of the plot, premise and characters that had to grip the audience before it ever got a consideration for a series?
Kwanza vs our boi Zach is the final battle?! Oh man, that little bell is now officially clicked, I'm hyped!
I watch your videos with my pad next to the keyboard while taking notes. Super interesting content and advices.
That's really cool! Glad you're getting something out of the videos
to summarize the whole video; show don't tell
[Harvey Weinstein has entered the chat...2 years late]
Oh I hope My Hero Academia vs X Men NPC edition is going to happen.
Hero aca is just another example of the same shitty millenial entitlement that makes modern comics shitty.
@Ruldolphmaker While I’m not exactly a fan of Hero Aca, I certainly have to disagree on your stance that it’s “shitty millennial entitlement.”
Izuku is a powerless child, but he cares so much about being a hero that he dedicates his life to getting into the school of his dreams, risks his life for someone who looks down on him, and researches as much as possible about being a Hero, despite the world telling him it’s impossible.
Even after All Might agrees to give him One for All, (which is probably where your belief of shitty millennial entitlement originates from, believing that the weak should just be given everything. But that’s simply not the case. Even after risking his life, it’s still not enough, Izuku’s body is too weak, so he spends 10 months of his life training to prepare his body for One for All. Even after all that training, his body is still prone to being damaged just by using his power recklessly.
Sure at the end of the day you can argue that it’s an underdog story and we already know he’ll eventually become the world’s greatest hero so it’s entitlement believing that no matter who you are you’ll be able to be the best.
But if someone watches the show, they’ll quickly realize that there’s a lot more to it than that. Because imagine if Izuku didn’t latch himself onto All Might, then his only opportunity to be a hero would’ve vanished forever.
Hero Aca shows that if you want to reach your dreams, you need to take risks, put in much effort, do your absolute best, and even with all of that, you will still get hurt and face obstacles, but if you stay true to your virtues and never give up even in the face of opposition, you may just be able to make the world a better place.
@@jackbenimble4903 well to be honest my reason for choosing SJW X Men vs MHA is because of how one succeeds in making superpowers mundane yet fun to explore.
@@Ruldolphmaker man Hero aca was a last-ditch effort because if it did fail, the author would give up making manga as a whole. The author grew up on American comics and mix it with Japanese manga culture. If you look at most manga, the idea is often the power of friendship, while Marvel's is trial and grown. The author mixes it in where teamwork is a key point as well as self-improvement.
Want teamwork? Then read World Trigger. Gatchaman, Saint Seiya etc. Want self improvement? read *EVERY POST-DRAGON BALL SHONEN MANGA IN EXISTENCE.* If you think Deku the one-man show gary stu protagonist of hero aca is indicative of anything resembling teamwork, then...... well I'm sorry to tell you you've been fooled.
I can also tell you don;t read much manga. If you think the power of friendship is the "idea"
I read a LOOOOOOOT of manga. "the power of friendship" is a memy trope mostly found in bad dubs and as jokes online more than it is a reality. Just because Yugioh and Fairy Tail do it, dont mean it's the norm. Most manga the theme is some form of self-actualization. Most American comic heroes are people who stumble into powers. with a couple exceptions. Most Japanese heroes specifically shonen heroes have to earn their powers.
I'd be interested to see a comparison between Netflix's new series She-ra and Dragon Prince. Both series are obsessed with "diversity" and LGBT representation.
But She-ra was marketed specifically on being about girl-power diversity and LGBT representation and was really pretty lack-luster. The series featured generally weak, stereotypical characters, with relatively un-villainous villains and fairly whiny heroes. In the end, the Evil Horde seems neither very evil, or that much of a horde, while the Princesses seem neither noble, beautiful, or good (since one of the main goals of the creators seems to be about changing the princess trope and society's definitions of beauty), and the title hero, though powerful, doesn't come across as very heroic.
Dragon Prince was marketed as being a really cool fantasy story about dragons and magic, and it was a pretty cool fantasy story about dragons and magic with black characters, purple characters, gay characters, deaf characters, strong female heroes and villains (and strong male heroes and villains) who you could see the reasons, good and bad, why they made the choices they made, both good and bad (and the villains make good choices sometimes, and the heroes make bad choices sometimes).
Summary: the makers of She-ra knew it wasn't a good story with good characters, so they marketed the diversity; Dragon Prince was a good story, so they marketed the good story and let viewers discover the diversity while watching it.
In the end, it seems fairly apparent that the New Marvel writers don't get Superheroes. They think what makes superheroes are super powers, not being heroic. Kamala Kahn gets super powers so, as far as Ms. Wilson and Ms. Amanat are concerned, she's a super hero. Fighting villains or saving people is merely icing on the cake, not the point.
The Dragon Prince turned out to be a pretty interesting show. The characters are treated like people, and no one is put down so someone else can look good. Everyone has their own part to play.
My only problem with the Dragon Prince is that they push to much the "strong woman" thing and adheres to the SJW trope of man being idiots and incompetent while woman are the only virtuous one's. The scene with the kings where the teenager princess knew more than the bumbling fools man (there is a adult queen but she isn't show to be as idiot as the men) was the pinnacle of this, together with the flashback of the all woman queen sacrificing while the cowards men run away from dangers. But it is all over the story like the sons of the villain, the girl is smart and competent and the boy is a complete moron.
I don't have problem with having a idiot bumbling moron male character nor a woman that is smart and competent, but the overwhelming dis-balance really takes me out of the story. The show works much better when focusing in the trio of protagonist where things are much more balanced and subtle. I really hope they tone down the "girl power" a bit or at least introduce not idiotic male characters or have the idiotic grow so things get more balanced and less with feminist fanfic like tone.
Another good diversity-focused comic is ShootAround. None of the Characters are superheroes, just kids trying to survivie in a zombie apocalypse. But the entire set is made of teens from different countries, races, backgrounds, economic levels, sexualities, etc.
Yet its good, because while those things *are* considered an important part of the character and how they relate to one another, they focus more on how those difference *affect* their relationships to one another, while at the same time keeping the characters focused on the goal of surviving. It's a character-related drama and action comic. But at the same time, those "differences" arent just related to what they are, but also their inner workings, their personalities. I often point to it when describing how a trait can be important to a character (like being a lesbian and/or Japanese woman) but not letting that trait encompass the character and everything they do, and how to balance these "diverse" traits that don't take attention from other characters who also exist in this diverse universe.
@@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa I gotta necro this comment to kind of disagree. Like I see what you're referencing and what you're saying but when watching it I didn't notice it and it didn't phase me because there are SO many male characters that, to me, are interesting and not bumbling fools. The protagonist, the dead king, the villain advisor, and the elf in the mirror, etc. Then you have Reyla who's the worst character I've ever seen and is a female who just makes awful decisions apparently and whines about it.
When I enjoy a piece of work that /happens/ to have several overtly 'flawed' female characters, and many more competent male characters, I generally don't think it's fair to call it misogynistic because to me you have to try to see it from that perspective to get there, and I think the reverse is also true for Dragon Prince.
@@VitorHugoOliveiraSousa not to mention that the smart princess was somehow the daughter of two queens. It's a kids show. I'm sorry, but two queens can't have a baby without some *ahem* dark magic getting involved.
Another great overarching story that had a compelling start was Knightfall. Prelude taught us about Bane, gave us his plan, and showed the making of a great story arc.
Great vid LD. Personally, while I agree that style of storyline telling has changed (moving from packed single issue stories to a more drawn out, serialized format, aka the "Netflix Style") this does not explain, nor excuse, why modern comic writers, or hell, modern entertainment writers in general, have forsaken the core elements of storytelling, such as character arcs, character development, The transformative effects of The Hero's Journey, having a "moral center" for the story, etc.
Agreed even these so-called Netflix Style have more complete pilots because they have to show them to their executives first and if it isn't complete there is no way they will make a series out of it.
The issue isn't that they've ditched core elements of storytelling so much as what they're replacing them with is inferior.
@@christophershafer5401 I read and review comics, and I read books on storytelling. Believe me, the current comic industry has completely abandoned core storytelling elements.
@@jeangentry6656 To clarify my point, I mean that you can break the rules if you have an inspirational idea or innovation. What I've been seeing is contrarianism combined with lazyness.
Funny thing is is that manga has been doing the serialized format for almost as long as it's been around and they tend to pull it off no problem. If the modern Western comicbook writers could emulate that, then something good might come out.
30:52 - 31:03 you know a video is good when you pause it and take a few seconds to reflect on what was said.
You are another reason out of few that makes me want to become an animator of traditional means.
Go for it!
i found your channel from the "why are so many SJW characters mary sues" video and I've been watching all your stuff now :D
Awesome! Glad you're liking the videos
Wow. Same actually! XD
I think Manga tend to do a better job of pacing for an arc. Most (good) shonen manga will try to grab you on the first chapter before it jumps into the building of the eventual arc. Not to mention that many of them will do a few episodic chapters before the actual multi-chapter arc begins to help establish the characters. It's only after a few shorter story lines that they move on to the big, year-long arcs or even multi-arc sagas.
I always look forward to another episode from you. You always inspire me to grow and learn how to write a hero correctly
Answer to the riddle. "Letters."
And here I was wondering if it meant something like "a goal".
I call my son "conqueror" and send him off to wipe nations. That kind of thing.
@JRPGFan20000 what... you got hacker parents or something?
The answer is *Characters*
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"Who needs a quote when you have a number in your name?"
- Le'4che Henry
If it's fair to compare these guys with Saitama, compare these characters with another anime/manga character.
I vote Guts
I vote Ladios Sopp or Alita.
Deku or All Might for my vote
Fuck, compare them to the classic: Astro Boy.
Just compare Riri to Naruto, both inherently talented and start off without powers, by the end of the first chapter, you not only know why Naruto is an orphan, you see how that affected his life, what he wants to do with his life, and how despite all the reasons he has to not want to help the village, he'll still kick the shit out of traitors. No idea who Marvel lines up with.
I vote Megumi Fushigiro from Jujutsu Kaisen and Alphonse from Fullmetal Alchemist.
I love your videos. You destroy all Woke SJW nonsense with facts and logic.
I am just gonna say, there is a lot of disdain for binge watching, and I don't think it is deserved. People have always enjoyed media that critics consider mediocre. What this means isn't that people have low expectations. It means critics expectations are out of step with what people actually enjoy. How do I know they enjoy it? Because that is what they consume and, by and large, praise. If you set high expectations, expect to be met with mediocrity, only because producers of art will produce output concordant with what the average person expects.
I'm so glad I subscribed to this channel because every video gets me thinking and makes me feel somewhat smarter for just watching.
Very good and interesting video but I feel one final thing you should do is compare a newer super hero that actually worked at giving what was promised and establishing what the story is all about and compare it to the ones that didn't. So far I think the new Ghost Rider as well as the original series of the third Blue Beetle may do this. From what I recall from both, they establish the heroes struggle, give them heroic traits, show their powers and show what they will be doing in the story. I could be wrong as I haven't seen the first issues of either but from videos of each, it seems like they get to the point and its not just "Jaime is latino, and he's latino" or "Robbie is a bored street racer who is bored". I think another thing that works in their favor as opposed to Riri and Khamala Khan is that the names they are taking are legacy names where as Ms Marvel was strictly Carol's name until recently and I don't believe anyone else was Iron Man with maybe Rhodey acting as him for a time but otherwise its basically Tony Stark. There were two Blue Beetles before Jaime and there were countless Ghost Riders besides Robbie so them having the name works because they are legacy names and the characters have powers similar to the originals as well as connections to them, not just being a random special snowflake who magically gets senpai's attention. I am curious how you'd feel about these two as well as more modern new super heroes who actually work, since with this video, one could argue "Oh, Punisher is an established hero so we already know what he is all about." but with Jaime and Robbie, we don't, we just know they are going to be connected to a previously established hero, like Ms Marvel and Iron Heart.
The answer to the riddle is Me.
Consumer: I'll tell you the problem with the power your writers have for these comics that you're using here: It didn't require any discipline to obtain it. You know, you've read what others had done, and you've took the next step! You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could. And before you even knew what you had, you patten it, and packaged it, slap it on every shelf in every comic book shop and now, you're selling it! You're selling it! Well...
Marvel Comics: I don't think you've given us our due credit. Our writers are doing things which no other comic industry has done before.
Consumer: Yeah, but your writers were so preoccupied with whether or not if they could they haven't stopped to think if they should!
It's kind of like inheriting mommy and daddy's money and playing it off like you earned it all yourself.
The short answer, No it isn't. You can have all the black, female, gay, trans characters you want, just make them three dimensional and compelling and the stories good. The reason why people hate these comics is that they suck and the SJWs use the Diversity label to cover up the fact that they are no talent ass clowns. Why is this so hard to understand, and why are people falling for it?
Huh.. i forgot that Riri and Kamala were different people in the time between videos.
But honestly, if they were combined into one then they'd atleast have more personality.
Are you certain anout that the only change would be nothing
It is a sad truth that story writing is gone. Not just in the comics we once loved, but you can see it in shows and even movies. I wonder if things will ever turn for the better.
darkdartsful They will eventually. I mean, they’ve got to, right?
@@smugalice6206 Not necessarily, media transforms to something else at times. That is the whole thing with netflix. We will have to wait and see if the pendulum swings away from sjw virtue signaling and back to stories of value.
This is because writers have lost touch with their audience. If you want to write, then you better know how to people well. We always see writers as these hermit introverts who wish to hide behind closed doors and will pull a shot gun on you if you disturb them. Well, no. First off, you don't need to be an introvert to be a writer. It certainly doesn't mean you're shut up and avoiding all human contact. And if you really dislike people that much, then I wouldn't suggest writing as a career choice.
I might do that for a month if I have a really amazing story idea that I really want to focus on. But 80% of my time, I'm out socializing with other human beings in one form or another.
When you don't people very well, you won't know how to reach your readers. Then you're just slamming themes down their throat and scratching your head why your readers are annoyed with you. "But I'm including diverse characters. I'm being anti racist." Great, SJW. I'm glad to know you're just anti racist and not doing anything because you genuinely love people.
With print on demand and the low cost of publishing ebooks, I believe there are more writers earning money than ever before. SJWs may control most of the big publishing houses, but independents don't have to be PC. Sturgeon's law is very true, a vast majority is crap. Finding the good stuff will be a new skill.
A video that makes you think, has social commentary; a nice pace and it's educative (especially for aspiring writers). This is high quality content indeed
"Valiant hero"
>puts Goblin slayer
I see someone else also enjoys the adventures of GS. 👌
I wonder if GS will be used at one point
I wouldn't say the Goblin Slayer is much of a hero. He doesn't slay Goblins because he alone recognizes their threat to Humanity. He doesn't slay goblins to save the lives of others. He slays goblins solely because goblins raped and murdered his family and now he really hates goblins. A character motivated purely by a simplistic sense of revenge doesn't qualify as a "hero" in the traditional sense.
Absolutely
gantzisballs I agree, but he does take up goblin slaying jobs that others at his rank don't. That is usually left to the newbie adventurers that may or may not survive the job, as what happened ep 1 or Vol 1 depending on your preference.
And due to this, this causes a cycle where new adventurers end up dying and the job ends up not being completed until a group finally manages to Survive and complete it.
Then enter Goblin slayer. He takes up the jobs as he has the efficient gear and the experience to deal with them. While he primarily does it for revenge, his actions end up saving potential new adventurers lives and rids villages of their goblin problem. And it's actually due to this that he even got promoted to silver rank to start with. Hell, the "Actual Heroine" of his world wouldn't have grown up to well, do what she does if it wasn't for GS taking care of goblins that was near her village.
I guess what I'm saying is that yes, Goblin slayer isn't a hero in sense of like Batman or Spider-Man,etc. But I guess more of a Hero of the People type of hero, since at the end of ep 2, there was the bard who sang the tale about Goblin slayer. And he isn't even the "Main Hero" of his world. He's just a guy who *really* hates goblin and possibly mental issues due to what happened to cause him to hate goblins to the point of wanting to commit genocide.
I guess He could also be a anti hero but idk about that tbh. But he's like the professional Goblin exterminator at the core who's actions is appreciated by everyone even if the jobs he does are considered "newbie quest".
Good quote that I found in a video about GS that oddly fits,
"The World doesn't need a hero, it needs a professional." From The Witcher 3 if I remember correctly.
I don't know what made me type this at 4:30am in the morning.
@@gantzisballs If you really want to go into the traditional sense of hero then you start going the Greco-roman sense. Which is closer to "A person who does amazing deeds and changes the world in the way they wanted by doing so." Technically speaking the hero as a self-sacrificing person is actually a later change from the old meaning. So Goblin slayer wouldn't count as a super-hero version of a hero but he likely would count as a hero in the classical sense of being a man who though pure talent and fate does amazing deeds.
I love this episode, and I loved the call to one punch man, in fact I don't think anyone in the anime community has talked about the noble aspects of Santana.
Nice catch!!!!!
Thanks. To me, One-Punch Man is all about the essence of heroism. You have dangerous villains on one side, and self-absorbed, self-serving "heroes" on the other. That puts people like Saitama, Genos, and Muman Rider in the middle.
@@LiteratureDevil Yea Mumen Rider is actually my favorite character in the show, and you can guess my favorite fight with that information. #TrueHero
For some reason this video made me remember the Eragon series. The first three books, though not perfect, had established a level of expectation for the fourth, however the fourth book quickly lost my attention and I was unable to finish it. To an extent I still want to know how the story ends, but not enough for me to pick the book up again.
I wasn't immediately in agreement with you, but you made a very good argument. Bravo
Man, that OPM segment felt like a teaser for "Eastern versus Western storytelling".
You could say that lol. I've been prepping in the background for that video too.
Yet another great video from a criminally undeerrated UA-cam channel, good work LD, also regarding your riddle i can't come up with an answer, all i can think of is "wearing me out" from Shinedown.
Once the word "unfair" is tossed into the conversation, reason is poisoned, shot, beaten, strangled, castrated, and drowned.
This is the first video of yours I've seen about ComicsGate and it's so well self contained that I learnt much of it alone. Thank you.
I suppose I'll have to be very careful if I want to write for the long run.
In other words, the modern Marvel writers has failed to make their so called *"Diversity"* character, interesting.
The description you made of these shows written to be binge-watched, and how they blur together leaving us with happy memories because of the few good parts, reminds me so much of Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles. Man, how I (sorta) loved that show! It was doing so much right, and had so many moments of brilliant writing! But it was also awash with so much tedium and pointless pieces that served no purpose but to pad out the story unnecessarily. I noticed all this happening while I was watching it, because as an adult I've unintentionally trained myself to study stories more, to help me in my own story-telling hobbies. (Which is why I have enjoyed many of your videos for their focus on explaining important aspects of writing that people seem to be neglecting today in favor of ...other things.) And while I am overall very grateful for the shift in focus that this binge-style watching has done to the writing of television shows, I still can't stomach many of these shows because they reek of pointless fillers just trying to pad the run time until they get to that one morsel of good writing in that episode's one hook.
As I mentioned in previous video, boredom is a good starting motivation for _villains._ maybe they should make standalone villain series instead.
These writers are writing like it's for a binge consumer but they are leaving out the most important thing. It has to come out all at once. Shows that come out in bulk usually get passes that other shows don't get because the viewer has a week to think about one single episode instead of the whole story. One bad episode can sink a network show while binging you just move on to the next one and hope it gets better. The farther you step back the less imperfections you see. You can't write like it's for binging and then be episodic. Especially in comics. If I gave someone money for a comic that bored me I'm not about to shell out for episode 2 as I no longer care. It shows they aren't writing comics to write comics. They are writing an expensive storyboard to sell the tv rights.
Plus, if you want me to binge eat/watch anything, there had better have some good taste to it. That's where these writers fail. There is nothing in either Ironheart or Ms. Marvel that makes me want to consume it. Its bland and tasteless.
They miss the main point, a tv show is passive in that once an episode plays, it doesn't require you to press play at the end of each scene and in theory shows you everything you need to understand the story and can afford to slack a bit on writing as great actors can turn mediocre characters into amazing characters that you won't forget.
A comic requires you to give voice to characters and fill in the gaps of movement betweeb panels and be entertaining enough to keep you turning the page and also entice you to make the effort to acquire the next issue, even if you get it shipped to you, thats still more time and effort than pressing a button for the next episode of a tv show.
This has to be one of the best UA-cam videos I've seen in a long while.
This breaks down everything wrong with most modern storytelling.
There are a few that are getting it right (most of them are on UA-cam surprisingly - see "If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device" and "Satellite City" as stellar examples) but the mainstream are getting it SO wrong!
Thanks for pointing this out in your series. Comics? Hell, the whole *Western* mainstream entertainment industry seems to be creatively bankrupt right now.
And you've seem to hit on the root cause in this video.
Even chapters of a good novel are usually entertaining stories when standing alone.
Yup. Any well-written book will have each chapter be meaningful in some way.
LD... Your content exemplifies itself.
Lessons on the importance of making every paragraph of a story interesting... Told in a concise format that instantly grabs viewer interest and maintains it by merit.
“Trident: A movie about the love-triangle between three powerful leaders who have the potential to forge a better future, but whose rivalry threatens that future” paraphrasing, but I would absolutely watch that movie...
I was wondering recently why I enjoy a 2 or 3 hour movie but find myself struggling to watch more than 3 episodes of a TV series, even if I liked it. You have helped me understand why with this video. The movie is self-contained and can't be built on promises for a pay off in a later episode or season (promises which, by the way, are often not kept and it's almost as if they want me to forget about it by cramming 12 episodes in between). The film is one succinct powerful emotion driver; a story or collection of themes that make a rewarding experience. It really doesn't help having experienced the immortal disaster that was the end of Game of Thrones. I struggle to devote 50 plus hours to a TV series.
Absolutlely loved this series. I could listen to you compare and contrast New Marvel and Old Marvel all day long.
You talk about the stories not allowing their characters to display their virtues. I feel this kinda makes sense when you consider that to some of these "Diversity" writers, the mere existence of the character is a virtue. Why should they display any "heroic" traits in that context? Not saying they are correct for doing that, only that their failure to comprehend a hero's basic structure makes a lot more sense when viewed this way. They seem to think that the inherent quality of a hero lies in something else (what I'm not sure tbh), not in heroic actions, or the drive to act in a heroic way, even and especially when it's detrimental to the character's own safety.
EDIt: Aw I got the riddle wrong - I said "Nothing and Everything."
Bringing Anime/Manga into a comic book conversation is like a reverse nuking. Yes - Marvel, DC and other western comics have done a lot, but anime and manga industries just tramples them.
You mean how bad and predictable they have gotten. Where there are two generations of Mangas that take the piss on those Animé manga tropes, while still using them and generally being mostly strange or depraved these days. Not like an actual story that was painted with the necessities of giving it weight. Where Battle Angel alita( and last order) explores some darker topics. Or Heads, Priest etc. So e of the best Mangas of late 1999 -2003
@@theblackbaron4119 There are still pretty awesome current manga with meaningful and/or disturbing topics, like Promised Neverland. And there were pretty shitty manga back then...... like Escaflowne ;-P
Japans manga industry is huge and manga cover pretty much any topic there is, so there is bound to be a lot of shit to be published..... it's comparable to games on steam.
also, last order was shit!
Yes, but, western comics entered this fight after the near collapse of the industry in the 80's and 90's from the collector's bubble. So they came into the fight beaten up pretty badly. And even back then there was a push to make comics "more relevant" Green Arrow/Green Lantern is an example. This situation has slowly gathered steam and it really cut loose in the early 2000's.
Manga came into the contest fresh and well rested from a country that had none of the handicaps the west had. So comparing the two industries is not really fair. Western comics aren't being killed by Manga. Western comics committed suicide.
Anime and Manga dont trample over Star Wars Legends though, the Yuuzhan Vong War is the pinnacle of the sequels many long running anime and manga wished they could get to that level and the SWTOR games are unrivaled.
It feels like a lot of opinions fly by without checking up with a basic google search.
The manga industry did not show up in the late 90's, the manga as we know it today can be traced down to Post WW2 Japan. The globalization became in the late 90's, but guess what - the same can be said for western comics. The world is not only USA.
Considering the quality and quantity - it is silly to state that modern Manga does not cover dark topics (like Alita did) - because it does. If you look up only Shounen Manga, do not be surprised to find only this type.
And finally about the Star Wars and other legacy projects - The manga industry focuses more on diversity over long running projects, but such projects are present - be it one story like Berserk/One piece, or the various iterations of Pokemon, Digimon and such.
With all said and done, the two styles are barely comparable, outside of the medium they use.
That was perfect, it all makes sense and Watchmen have been mentioned...just briliant!
"Get a haircut" lol, I liked this line.
This was a particularly good one, really enjoyed watching it.
I'm subbing to you.
As a startup Writer myself I really got a shitload of lessons starting from your first video in your channel. I love every single video you made, it gives me a lot of lessons that I sometimes repeat myself by rewatching your works.
Bottom line, Thank You. I look forward for your Next Video and by that extent, your Next Lesson as well.
As an artist, this concept is something I grapple with all the time. My audience has decided to give me their attention for a brief moment and I am obligated to give them the best possible experience I can every second they spend with me. To pass off shallow, uninspired writing, drawing, or music because it satisfies some weird moralization is, like, an affront to artistry.
But, we are about to watch the pendulum swing back very soon. We are gonna raise artists who want to contribute complex, meaningful expression because we had to wade through mediocre content.
New guy here, I am enjoying your videos, not only because of how you bring about your point, but I am also learning a lot for my book! Seriously, thank you for uploading these!
Big pink.
"It pinkens your teeth while you chew."
It's crazy how more availability leads to settling for less.
It's the opposite of that should happen.
But it becomes harder to find what's really good, so convenience just becomes the dominate deciding factor.
Watch all the video and still don't know if Kamala Khan is islam. The comic keeping suggesting it but she doesn't act like a islam.
I missed your appearance on Friday Night Tights. But at the end of the show they mentioned you. So I decided to check out your channel. Very good stuff. I enjoy your videos and learn a lot from them. 👍👍👍
I love you videos, since day one they've been such a major role to me since I am aiming for writing/animating. Of course, it's not the exact same as comics, but these videos have given me an idea of what should be expected in the beginning of a story: Characters, setting, conflict, tone, etc. . . Thank you so much!
I honestly can't answer these riddles man. They're as hard as your content is good (you know what I mean, keep bein' awesome Lit)
never know about -sandman- but when i hear the premise about it, suddenly i remember tiger and bunny.
a superhero story about people capitalise superhero as advertisment and the heroes do that for living.
pretty interesting take on superhero show IMO.
edit: i mean watchmen not sandman
32:02 A fight of the century! I need to prepare popcorn XD
The moment Saitama was brought up as a counter argument for Riri's motivation, I internally smacked my forehead and said 'NOOOOO!' His boredom was the result of working to become the superhero he wanted to be, aka. the one that can defeat anyone and anything in one punch. His motivation to be a superhero, however, has nothing to do with boredom, but rather to do with Saitama at his core being a noble character. For all his issues trying to feel something other than complete and utter boredom from his invulnerability, the man is willing to take ridicule and allow others to take credit for his deeds just because it's the right thing. The Crablante fight revealed his desire to be a superhero, and as we see through the course of the series, that desire to be a superhero never faded. You didn't even need to explain the idea of keeping a promise to the reader based on name; neither one were even comparable in the first place, thus it was ridiculous to bring up OPM as a counter.
Three princesses tavern hoping does sound like a interesting concept.
How dare they compare Iron Heart to One sensei's genius work of One Punch Man?! Those people really need to start thinking for themselves if they are saying that.
Being a comic-artist i decided to get on to writing myself, and instead of go ahead first and make shit up i decided to go on what i wanna se and also try to understand how to make a narrative interesting your videos are good way to make me self reflect on my own writing to not fall in bad writing trends.
I absolutely LOVE your videos! Your take on these things is not only fascinating, but inspiring as well.
And I'm so happy your brought up Gaiman's Sandman! Even after all these years of reading comics, Sandman is still (and probably always will be) my absolute favorite.
You should do an episode where you talk about Hellblazer. That'd be amazing.
Awesome! Thanks. Reading the first volume of Hellblazer right now, actually lol
I've binged watched your channel out of boredom.
Thanks? lol
@@LiteratureDevil I thought you would say "Listen here you little shit"
@@LiteratureDevil I am quarantined at the moment.
Ran out of stuff?
It's important to make a good impression on the first chapter. If the first chapter is boring, then less people will read the next chapter. I believe manga gets it right in that field, if it starts really weak and no-one reads the next chapters, it gets dropped. That way, you get good and interesting stories that people wanna read instead of boring trash.
I love this series you're doing! For someone like me who is brainstorming out their own comic that they'd like to put out there for the world one day, the way you have meticulously pulled apart all of these elements of what makes a good character and a good superhero story has been invaluable advice. A lot of the things you've been talking about, I've known in my gut already but to hear it put into words brings extra clarity. Thank you very much for the series, and I can't wait to see the "final bout"!
Ben Grimm is Jewish, but it was never the focal point of his character,
A good choice. Mainly because when creators add in the "X Character" it's usually a character who's just a pile of stereotypes.
Good gravy, the first three proposals for Trident were better than the plots of every movie since the age of COVID started. How far we have fallen and how imaginative LD is.
These videos are such a great way to get recommendations for well written comics
The first bite of the taco is nothing but... bread?
What kind of tacos are you eating!?
There are soft AND crunchy tacos.
@@LiteratureDevil did you put taco mix on Peta bread? If you try that get the garlic and sage seasoned ones next time.