Absolutely! Aussie commentators on Fox sound admittingly biased and gloat each time England makes a mistake. Warne is probably the nicest of the lot there.
I agree Nas and athers really compliment each other well. Could listen to their insight for ages. Also Nasser on commentary is one of the best. Wish they would do more
Just saw Alastair Cook on BT Sports saying that England faced 877 balls since September and Australia faced 3500 hence it was lack of preparation for England what type of excuse is it , nonsense England played throughout their summer while Aussies played almost a year ago Please find better excuses next time
Michael Artherton is like a professor of an University, the way he talks, the way he sounds, it's soothing to ears...he is such a gentleman...absolutely love hearing him...I could listen to him all day long...
Preparation is not an excuse. The Aussies haven't played a test in almost a year and we looked flat as anything compared to them. This is a long-term problem. England are consistently 30-4 multiple times a series. In fact you can't even call them batting "collapses" any more, that implies they're not frequent! This series is a write off and if we win a single game I'd be amazed. A major overhaul of the batting is needed in 2022. Bring in people with a solid, basic technique and a mindset to bat time, even if they haven't got amazing first class records. Poor techniques and impatience get found out very quickly at test level.
The problem is this team is full of batsmen the attention span of a goldfish. Too many t20 batsmen who don't have any batsmanship skills. It is not about technique. It is about building an innings, pacing an innings, knowing when to attack, knowing when to defend.
Where are those players though Jack? Burns and Sibley have consistently scored runs in the County Championship and yet mostly struggled when they have stepped up. Can't see where the players are going to come from.
@@firemouse3000 rob yates at Warwickshire looks promising and sibley has stayed at home for this ashes series to work on his technique so mabey in the summer they come in and hameed has looked decent in the first test, his problem is Rory burns is his opening partner, burns simply not good enough.
England have completely deserted their red ball game to win world cups in white ball. There's only one consistent batsman , the captain. Rest are hardly red ball cricketers.i don't see england changing their mindset to revive their red ball cricket
I’m glad you mentioned Cam Green. He was bowled by about the only short of a length delivery that didn’t clear the stumps. I’m a bit biased being a fellow west Aussie but this guy is a real talent. It helps that he is the fourth “seamer” who bowls consistently at 140+ kph.
He bowls 135+ like so easily. This is like serious talent. McGrath & Hazlewood bowl at similar pace. And Green's primary skill isn't even bowling🤣🤣 An absolute talent. But Aussies need to nurture him well. Absolutely exciting talent
It's not just you being from WA. I'm from nsw and I think green is the most promising allrounder we have had since watto. He has quite a bit to go but steady improvement from here and in a couple years he could be really good
As an Aussie, I can't wrap my head around why everyone in banging on about England's bowling selection and how poor leach was. England's batting needs major attention, you lost it there. The bowlers will have good and bad days but the batting was atrocious. I love this videos analysis, bloody brilliant and much better than the Aussie commentators.
Leach has been treated a bit unfairly. He’s not played any cricket really since March and then he’s asked to bowl on a pitch totally unsuitable for him, trying to defend a low score. I wouldn’t have played him until Melbourne at least. Sydney definitely.
Next game, Anderson and Broad must be played instead of Woakes and Leach & even Bairstow could also be fit in the team if the Captain wants in the place of maybe Burns
Love listening to these blokes. Although I'm a proud Aussie I think Nas and Athers have some of the best analytical minds in world cricket. I love this game and there's nothing like an Ashes series.
How did they speak for 40 minutes without mentioning the match winner Travis Head. 150 off as many balls. Game was won and lost in those couple of sessions...
It's been like that for a while now, the contributions from other batsman doesn't happen often enough to put big runs on the board. Unless Stokes shows his magic as well, then England are up against it big time.
On TMS Ian Chappell made a vey good point about Root. He’s been a captain for a long time and he’s simply not captain material. He doesn’t know how to choose his players and has no idea about grabbing those opportunities. Surely he knows he’s good enough to lead this side.
Totally agree. Great batsman, but he's not a leader of men. If Eng can sort the top order out and get some strong leadership, then they can start competing again. If Eng do get steam rollered in the ashes, Root will still probably keep the captaincy and Burns will still be opening the batting next summer 🤦♂️
I think Root is captain material. It's more structural, cultural problems. It's an unsettled team too, no one can rally a team as a solid group in that situation. If this top 6-7 play the whole series, things will get better via consistency surely? There's no one else either. Stokes can't be captain. There's too much on his plate as a key all rounder.
I think, statistically, he is our most successful captain though. Unfortunately when you have a batting line-up as poor as England's even the most astute captains will struggle to change the game.
@@Dilmahkana I wouldn’t want Stokes as captain. I agree with some of your points. Years ago I considered Buttler a better candidate for the job. He might just lead(briefly) in the future. But I agree that the current situations do not help
This test was quite similar to the 3rd Eng vs Ind test , where toss winning captain decided to bat and was bowled out cheaply then opposition made huge total , then top order fought back and then rest collapsed. Deja Vu ?
Imagine a so called 3rd rung Indian team tired after 4 tests with so many injuries defeated Aussies in Gabba and no excuses. But here Eng full of excuses lol
I think in a way it was easier for India’s 2nd team to win. They could go out and play with no pressure because nobody was expecting anything from them. That’s such a good place to be in a test match.
@@mrkipling2201 lol so english fans are expecting their team to beat australia in australia when english team lost to nz and trail india by 2 - 1 at home (almost 3-1 had there been no rain on day 5)
@@mrkipling2201 really you believe england will win these ashes i think they are much weak than india second string side in australia also what about melbourne, sydney test surely England these generation forget how to win in australia and these England side is losing even in home and your most successful test captain has just win 27 test and lose 22 and people were saying him the greatest English captain 🤦🤦🤦
@@mrkipling2201 everybody expecting them to draw that test because of rain forecast in from 16 jan to 19 jan but there was no rain in 19 jan and very small amount of rain in 18 jan also people were talking about India just geting 170+ so that they avoid follow on 😅😅 and after that match will be draw according to forecast
When it comes to broadcasting and punditry, these three are amazing. Sky Sports Cricket are in a league of their own. No agendas, no biases towards players. In particular, for those that play for their own county/state (which some Indian commentators are guilty of but obviously we can't mention them as they've won games for India). India and Australia have a lot of catching up to do with regards to their commentary and what they present to the audience. I can't speak for other nations because I don't follow their cricket as much but wow Sky Sports Cricket are just amazing. PS: ( I miss Bob and the debate show😔)
I would. Have to say that is one of the most balanced and insightful analyses I have seen. The one thing I would add is that is ridiculous to think a touring team can perform well in a test with almost no preparation in the country they are playing in. The packed playing calendar forces this and devalues test cricket. This from a passionate Aussie supporter
Smith getting out cheaply was one positive thing we can take from this game. We miss Archer so much. I think the Aussies fear him and he would have been brilliant in Australia.
Totally agree mate. Would have spiced this series up so much if Archer was there. Also a decent spinner is something they're really missing. I don't rate Leach too highly I'm sorry to say. Maybe on subcontinent tours but not in Australia.
@@Teeps1921 it's a whole other problem lol. I don't think the bowlers did too well either. Only Wood and Robinson looked like getting a wicket the whole time.
@@shahmianas8512 Leach is very good in Sri Lanka and even India where he came back well after being smacked around by Pant. He would be good in somewhere like Sydney as well where it normally turns later on but the Gabba wasn’t the right pitch for him. Should have picked Broad.
@@Teeps1921 Archer would have got them out quicker I think which helps our batsmen. I didn’t say it for his batting obviously. One helps the other though.
It's more psychological for England...I don't believe they have the belief in themselves that they could win in Australia. Teams know that when they play England if you get one wicket the rest will crumble.
Spot on. Any rational England supporter watching this team over the past 4/5 years knows that the batting is far too feeble. You can’t trust this team to win at home against this AUS team let alone down under.
I just love, how hindsight becomes so important in cricket. All the chances Eng squandered to remove Warner early and could have been a different game.
You're spot on Nas about England being too concerned about future matches overlooking current needs, I mean it was a terrible decision to leave out both Anderson and Broad keeping the Day-nighter Test in mind. They should have gone in with at least either of them. A similar blunder was made before the Ahmedabad Daynighter against India.
I don’t think leaving out Broad & Anderson was not the issue as it does not matter who you have as bowlers if you cannot occupy the crease and bat for runs and at the same time but you have to bat for time because if you don’t then you are gifting a major advantage to your opponents I hope that England can bounce back and at least provide a good contest and put themselves in a place to win. As an Australian the Ashes is my favourite time of the cricket year and I absolutely do not like it becoming such a one sided contest and in turn Test Cricket as a format is being tarnished. The format of T20 cricket should not be the leading format of cricket ever.Test cricket is the best format and the original and still the best.
Well said. The unfortunate thing is that we aren’t bouncing back at all. It’ll be 5-0. 4-0 at least to Australia. We aren’t good enough at batting or fielding. Plus we seem to have rotten luck as well. England have landed in Australia and gone into the series without any cricket beforehand in Australia like you said though. In the last Ashes series in England, Australia were able to play warmup games and get used to the conditions. It does help.
The best line by Mike Arth -- I know what's it's to face the first ball of an Ashes Series and Nas you perhaps know what's it's like to face the second ball 😂😂😂 (20:26)
I do miss Sky having the rights to show the ashes. The cast is so much better than BT and the most annoying aspect of BT is they do not show what the Aussie commentators are reviewing. We end up seeing someone’s boot. As for the game, typical England. When they have a bad session(s) it is a match defining session(s). England have been so poor with the bat for a substantial period of time. As soon as the focus turned to white ball cricket the red ball team dropped in standard. England will not win any overseas tour against decent opposition because they simply cannot bat long. As for the next test, we saw it in the previous Ashes tour, we assumed the pink ball would benefit us and we still got beat and quite comfortably in the end, I do not see any difference this time round even with Jimmy and Broad back.
As an Aussie, I can't get around why the only Aussies opinion they seem to mention is Warne. Theres this English obsession with Warne that seems baffling
@@JunaidKhan-pd1sp Key scored a double hundred against the West Indies at Lords. It was his only Test century, but he has a higher Test best score than Hussain or Atherton so he wasn't that bad as an opener.
3:44 Nasser: "The problem with the English batting lineup in those conditions on Day 1, green dampish pitch, cloudy skies and the australian bowling lineup". Me: Just replace it with "Brown turning tracks, clear skies and the Indian bowling lineup". The one constant in both sentences is "The problem with the English batting lineup".
@@varunsuresh9737 yeah it shows Joe is the real 'Root' of team England if opponent got him out easily the results would be in their favours, n innings in past headingly from stokes was once in a blue moon
I think the experts have not watched the India Australia Series 20-21 1) The Indian Team did not take unnecessary risks against Green when he bowled the few overs with Old ball 70-80 over period, thus increasing the workload for other Australian quicks when Starc Potency start to reduce after 1st 2 Tests . Green did not any wicket in that series. 2) To Labuchagne and Smith, they exploited their tendency to flick balls on off stump in the air by keeping men behind sqaure and Mid wicket. I think if England use 2 tactics it will help them in the rest of the 4 tests, dont take unnecessary risks against Green and keep a lid on Smith and Labuschagne scoring.
The selectors need to be ruthless and ambitious with changing things up. Burns is in very poor form with his head over at nearly second slip when the bowl is delivered - I'd replace him despite him basically being one of the the top 3 batters in the last year. Give Crawley a second chance as an opener. Give Pope a shot at 3 if you want him to be the future of the team, have Root and Malan to anchor the innings at 4 and 5, and play Stokes at 7 to play and counter-attack with the tail. A right handed spinner is a good change to left handers. Controversial maybe but just try something a bit left field. Hameed, Crawley, Pope, Root (c), Malan, Buttler (wk), Stokes, Bess, Wood, Robinson, Anderson
Bro honestly the main problem is your bowling. I would somehow go with 5 bowlers + stokes. Else it will very difficult for England to bowl out Aus as they baf very deep and pretty well in Australian conditions.
@@mallikarjunroyal6878 Bairstow needs a technique change to an opener. His bat pad gap is a cavern. Number 5-6 is great for him. If they had good openers it'd be help him greatly too.
NZ and England getting routed in series after series in Australia tells you how big an achievement it is for India to win back to back test series there ...South Africa is another team which has given good fight to the Australians ....Tells you only one thing, Batsmen are the key to winning in Australia... Good Bowling is a given but you need good batsmen to build innings there... England's current batting line up is so fragile ...
Well they had little to no practice heading into the match, broad said it himself they're probably the worst prepared side to ever play ashes. But the problem that eng encountered wasn't necessarily due to lack of practice, this is something that had hints in 2018-19 and really has come to a head in the last two years....the collapses. So many times....sometimes from the very first wicket, other after root is dismissed. Unless other english batsmen step up, you can play every swing and pace bowler under the sun and it still won't be enough. It's always root and one other guy, it needs to be root and atleast 4 other guys. Only then will England be able to consistently win 3 or 4 days of a test match, thus winning the test.
@@madjik2517 Australia came in at the back of Sheffield shield games....England had intra squad matches washed out and no practice matches due to covid restrictions.
No Masala..No unnecessary drama.. no bgm..straight to the point with cricketing reasons..thats what makes these analysis different from what we get to see on Indian cricket shows
Wood averages 50, he isn’t very good. Stokes is a fifth bowler and is injured. Leech is bowling throw downs on hard flat wickets. WOakes is a gentle medium pacer, useful In England, not here. It’s not that difficult to find someone to replace Nasser. Edit; none of this matters anyway when you only have one batsman
What about getting Vince in from the Big Bash in that top order? He's technically pretty sound, reasurred, experienced and had a decent tour last time round. Maybe even consider getting in Sam Billings (again, technically sound) in the middle order if Ollie Pope doesn't get going. He seems like a better option than Dan Lawrence.
Sam Billing and Vince are better white ball players. Pope hopefully will come good he is to good for first class cricket but just hasn't done it for England.
England's batsmen are always going to struggle against the extra pace and bounce of the Aussie quicks. Our bowlers lack penetration on hard flat pitches.
Talking from a neutral view point.. do you guys think England have a settled batting order ..I mean the top 7 barring the openers and root they keep coming at different numbers in diff games .. for the shorter form that may be great .. for tests does it make sense .. really thot butler and stokes would come out and make something happen
I dont mind the toss, i still think Joe made a good decision batting first but team selection was very poor. Why are we picking stokes who hasnt played much cricket for a while. Why wasn't either jimmy or broad in the team ? I dont understand, Bracey has been good this year, why was he left out ?
How people expect England to beat Australia is beyond my understanding... They are 2-1 down to india at home and England almost lost the 1st test as well, not for the rain to save them on final day .. It's clear they are poor with bat and cannot beat a class side if they play to their potential... England should start finding some good batters
How can you call Anderson great bowler when he always plays on pitch and conditions which suits him...!!!!! Great bowlers don't do that. Remember guy called Dale steyn who succeeded wherever he played that's called the greatness..!!!
The batting line up must be one of the worst England have ever had, in this day and age to only have 1 batsman with an average over 40 how on earth do you think you can possibly rack up solid totals. It's actually even worse than that as with the exception of Stokes the rest aren't even sniffing 35 at test match level-terrible.
I rate the English pace attack. Warner especially looked uncomfortable against them. Starc is rubbish for Australia. The weak link of the Australian pace attack. England middle order let it down.
Should’ve had the X factor spinner Adil rashid in the side, next game I’d go crawley in for burns and bairstow in for pope (burns and pope just aren’t top level batsmen) and broad or Anderson in for woakes
As an Aussie viewer honestly I didn't think Leach bowled many bad balls across the test. I can recall about 3 or 4 genuine pies that deserved to disappear. But the Aussies were absolutely committed to making sure he had an economy of 6 and over, forget 4 and over. Marnus basically sacrificed his wicket to try and put his foot on the gas unnecessarily. Sure he had a bad game but he needs to realise that the Aussies are gonna be coming like freight trains at his bowling. They don't want him to Swann them down like he did in '10/'11.
Enjoyed the commentary guys. Nasser can and should laugh off the Gabba "we'll have a bowl" call. Len Hutton did it and dont forget another fine captain Ponting lost Glenn McGrath just before the Edgbaston 2nd test in 05 but won the toss and did the same...that didnt work out well either. Claimed it was his worst mistake. Similar to an attacking declaration chasing a win then losing...anything can happen on the day. Ordinary decisions are over-analysed with hindsight, but the good ones you make are simply glossed over and forgotten.
The biggest problem is that England can’t soak up pressure spells when they are batting. The best teams can ride and wave off tough spells of bowling, which this England side simply can’t (and that does include Root himself). Against a top bowling unit like the Aussies, it will be all about England being able to counter the spells and pile on the runs where the Aussies aren’t at their best, but given how effective and well rounded their bowling attack is, it won’t be an assured scenario. Malan and Root’s partnerships are England’s only hope, and we just have to hope Stokes builds up enough confidence through the series and hope he delivers 2-3 special innings through the remainder of the tour, as I highly doubt Pope and Buttler will offer much support other than their pretty 20-30s (as per their test averages) and kick on once they are set.
England middle order is fragile and ineffective...You can’t win test matches just coz of Root ..Undoubtedly he’s best in business but can’t get u over the line every single time he goes out to bat…!
I think even not selecting James Anderson was big mistake. None of English bowlers are even closed to the nature of swing he offers. In the last series against India he was the one who destroyed or say to least troubled Indian batting. Keeping that aside, they need proper test batsman who has good temperament and class batting. As of now except none seems to there.
As wonderful as it is to hear these guys, they’re probably being a bit too soft here. Taking the example of the recent India series, there are many things which are way too lenient at the international. Hameed scores two twenties, but it’s fine because it’s his first test in Australia. Gill made his debut after the team was bowled out for 36, and then he hit a match winning innings in the 4th innings at the Gabba. Leach’s job is just to hold up an end and give the pacers a break? That’s too negative a mindset. You can never tell Ashwin to hold up an end. Let’s forget Ashwin, his quality is just way too good. Washington Sundar picked up Smith as his first test wicket on his debut. You can’t just back off in Australia. You have to be at it all the time. And lastly, a particular moment setting up the tone for the entire series? You’ve gotta fight it out in Australia. We got bowled out for 36, won the next test in a bit over 3 days. Australia needed 5 wickets to win with the new ball, Ashwin and Vihari battled it out in pain(both missed the next test). We scored 324 on day 5 at the “Gabbatoir” . We were 180-6 in the first innings at the Gabba, ended up scoring 336. Whenever we were behind, we came back. Ponting had said after day 4 of the last test that India’s resolve will break down tomorrow, and it didn’t. We were in a clearly losing position at Lord’s, won that match by bowling England out in less than 2 sessions. You’ve always got to take the fight to them in Australia, you can’t show weaknesses or negative mindset. Can’t go in saying that a draw at the Gabba would be a good result. England’s mentality under Root is very poor
England have treated Sam Hain, northeast, Robson pretty badly, Tom westley is s much better player than Lawrence, Crawley, hameed etc, far to long there has been bias selection in English cricket and sadly now they are far off from playing their best 11, hildreth wasted for far lesser players like Morgan, bopara etc.
This Trio Is Simply The Best When It Comes To Cricket 🏏 Analysis. So Soothing To Ears With Deep Knowledge Of Cricket And On The Other Hand Just Look At Indian Jokers Analysts. But Let's Come To Cricket I Was Expecting A Fight From England In 2nd Inning But They Couldn't Capitalised On Yestrday Score. Really It's Very Difficult To Beat Australia In Australia, So Hat's Off To Indian Team They Did Twice .
Broad is record at the gabba and mcg is very good . Anderson's record at adelaide mcg and scg is very good . Perth lets them both down but time in Australia
It’s the worst batting line up , and England have had some stinkers these last 30 years, take out root,and stokes is our next best batsman,stokes should never bat at 5 ,to high, he’s played over 70 test matches and only averages mid 30s, capable of great innings , but they are once in a blue moon
The point I can’t understand about the toss is that you can’t lose a game bowling first. You can obviously make it hard to keep in the game, but you can certainly lose the game batting first. Plus all of the ceremonies and speeches before the first ball doesn’t give the batsmen time to get settled in their minds.
I still believe moeen Ali should have retired after this series..... He would have been a far better bowler than leach and handy lower order batsman as well..
Cant agree with you more - excellent point. England who plan for future than the present should have talked to Moeen to retire after the ashes. At least with his bowling could have kept warner and carey (the lefties) in check. He likse ball coming on to the bat and as a batter could have thrived in these conditions.
How you would not play either one of the two - Broad or Anderson is just ridiculous. Forget the pitch, the wealth of experience they bring is essential on tours like these.
This trio is unbelievably good.
I miss them for this series they the best
Honestly they are superb
Absolutely! Aussie commentators on Fox sound admittingly biased and gloat each time England makes a mistake. Warne is probably the nicest of the lot there.
wish they were commentating!!
I agree
Nas and athers really compliment each other well. Could listen to their insight for ages.
Also Nasser on commentary is one of the best.
Wish they would do more
Just saw Alastair Cook on BT Sports saying that England faced 877 balls since September and Australia faced 3500 hence it was lack of preparation for England what type of excuse is it , nonsense
England played throughout their summer while Aussies played almost a year ago
Please find better excuses next time
Omg..... Lol 😂 shame always the case..... Its 2-0 buddy
England just knows how to make excuses. They are good for nothing.
@@ghanigallant7739 Did you notice they finally admitted England lost to India in England. :D
Didnt watch BT Sports coverage, but if thats what Cooke said its a very stupid statement.
Michael Artherton is like a professor of an University, the way he talks, the way he sounds, it's soothing to ears...he is such a gentleman...absolutely love hearing him...I could listen to him all day long...
So true...has great knowledge of the game a great commentator. Always love listening to his comments
He's bright
Waste
without doubt one of the best commentators in cricket.
Preparation is not an excuse. The Aussies haven't played a test in almost a year and we looked flat as anything compared to them. This is a long-term problem. England are consistently 30-4 multiple times a series. In fact you can't even call them batting "collapses" any more, that implies they're not frequent! This series is a write off and if we win a single game I'd be amazed. A major overhaul of the batting is needed in 2022. Bring in people with a solid, basic technique and a mindset to bat time, even if they haven't got amazing first class records. Poor techniques and impatience get found out very quickly at test level.
The problem is this team is full of batsmen the attention span of a goldfish. Too many t20 batsmen who don't have any batsmanship skills. It is not about technique. It is about building an innings, pacing an innings, knowing when to attack, knowing when to defend.
Problem is there aren’t any in county cricket either
Where are those players though Jack? Burns and Sibley have consistently scored runs in the County Championship and yet mostly struggled when they have stepped up. Can't see where the players are going to come from.
@@firemouse3000 rob yates at Warwickshire looks promising and sibley has stayed at home for this ashes series to work on his technique so mabey in the summer they come in and hameed has looked decent in the first test, his problem is Rory burns is his opening partner, burns simply not good enough.
England have completely deserted their red ball game to win world cups in white ball. There's only one consistent batsman , the captain. Rest are hardly red ball cricketers.i don't see england changing their mindset to revive their red ball cricket
As a proud Aussie I’d just like to say that this vlog was totally enjoyable and very honest. Thank you 👍🏻🇦🇺
I’m glad you mentioned Cam Green. He was bowled by about the only short of a length delivery that didn’t clear the stumps. I’m a bit biased being a fellow west Aussie but this guy is a real talent. It helps that he is the fourth “seamer” who bowls consistently at 140+ kph.
He bowls 135+ like so easily.
This is like serious talent.
McGrath & Hazlewood bowl at similar pace.
And Green's primary skill isn't even bowling🤣🤣
An absolute talent.
But Aussies need to nurture him well. Absolutely exciting talent
Green is going to get better and better. Hopefully he'll build up to bowling more in the series to take the load off the premier quicks.
It's not just you being from WA. I'm from nsw and I think green is the most promising allrounder we have had since watto. He has quite a bit to go but steady improvement from here and in a couple years he could be really good
Green and Gill are going to shine going into the future.
Loving the banter amongst these greats. Best of luck for the next test from a cricket loving Aussie.
Please sky, more of this.
Yes definitely, even if there's no series just get these guys talking, it's amazing to listen to.
As an Aussie, I can't wrap my head around why everyone in banging on about England's bowling selection and how poor leach was. England's batting needs major attention, you lost it there. The bowlers will have good and bad days but the batting was atrocious.
I love this videos analysis, bloody brilliant and much better than the Aussie commentators.
Leach has been treated a bit unfairly. He’s not played any cricket really since March and then he’s asked to bowl on a pitch totally unsuitable for him, trying to defend a low score. I wouldn’t have played him until Melbourne at least. Sydney definitely.
Don't like what Brayshaw is dishing up? Hard to believe...
Next game, Anderson and Broad must be played instead of Woakes and Leach & even Bairstow could also be fit in the team if the Captain wants in the place of maybe Burns
@@biologyontips010 yeah
@@mrkipling2201 yeah
Love listening to these blokes. Although I'm a proud Aussie I think Nas and Athers have some of the best analytical minds in world cricket. I love this game and there's nothing like an Ashes series.
How did they speak for 40 minutes without mentioning the match winner Travis Head. 150 off as many balls. Game was won and lost in those couple of sessions...
Nice to see these guys slightly more relaxed :) especially Atherton
England Batting looks timid except Root.
If you expect Root to score 200 every match the burden of expectations will affect his Batting too
It's been like that for a while now, the contributions from other batsman doesn't happen often enough to put big runs on the board. Unless Stokes shows his magic as well, then England are up against it big time.
On TMS Ian Chappell made a vey good point about Root. He’s been a captain for a long time and he’s simply not captain material. He doesn’t know how to choose his players and has no idea about grabbing those opportunities. Surely he knows he’s good enough to lead this side.
Totally agree. Great batsman, but he's not a leader of men. If Eng can sort the top order out and get some strong leadership, then they can start competing again. If Eng do get steam rollered in the ashes, Root will still probably keep the captaincy and Burns will still be opening the batting next summer 🤦♂️
I think Root is captain material. It's more structural, cultural problems. It's an unsettled team too, no one can rally a team as a solid group in that situation. If this top 6-7 play the whole series, things will get better via consistency surely?
There's no one else either. Stokes can't be captain. There's too much on his plate as a key all rounder.
I think, statistically, he is our most successful captain though. Unfortunately when you have a batting line-up as poor as England's even the most astute captains will struggle to change the game.
@@guymulry6168 I think Root may step down after this series, which leaves Burns position uncertain.
@@Dilmahkana I wouldn’t want Stokes as captain. I agree with some of your points. Years ago I considered Buttler a better candidate for the job. He might just lead(briefly) in the future. But I agree that the current situations do not help
This test was quite similar to the 3rd Eng vs Ind test , where toss winning captain decided to bat and was bowled out cheaply then opposition made huge total , then top order fought back and then rest collapsed. Deja Vu ?
This happens most of the times tbh
Yeah I also thought of it
@@GauravYadav-bf7qj There you have it England finally admit they lost to India in England. :D :D :D
@@rishabdhar6900 what?
Yeah
Imagine a so called 3rd rung Indian team tired after 4 tests with so many injuries defeated Aussies in Gabba and no excuses. But here Eng full of excuses lol
I think in a way it was easier for India’s 2nd team to win. They could go out and play with no pressure because nobody was expecting anything from them. That’s such a good place to be in a test match.
@@mrkipling2201 lol so english fans are expecting their team to beat australia in australia when english team lost to nz
and trail india by 2 - 1 at home (almost 3-1 had there been no rain on day 5)
@@mrkipling2201 really you believe england will win these ashes i think they are much weak than india second string side in australia also what about melbourne, sydney test surely England these generation forget how to win in australia and these England side is losing even in home and your most successful test captain has just win 27 test and lose 22 and people were saying him the greatest English captain 🤦🤦🤦
@@mrkipling2201 everybody expecting them to draw that test because of rain forecast in from 16 jan to 19 jan but there was no rain in 19 jan and very small amount of rain in 18 jan also people were talking about India just geting 170+ so that they avoid follow on 😅😅 and after that match will be draw according to forecast
@@Mukul_Solanki Its the biggest rivalry in cricket of course there is pressure
When it comes to broadcasting and punditry, these three are amazing. Sky Sports Cricket are in a league of their own. No agendas, no biases towards players. In particular, for those that play for their own county/state (which some Indian commentators are guilty of but obviously we can't mention them as they've won games for India). India and Australia have a lot of catching up to do with regards to their commentary and what they present to the audience. I can't speak for other nations because I don't follow their cricket as much but wow Sky Sports Cricket are just amazing.
PS: ( I miss Bob and the debate show😔)
Nope they are bias and cheerlead to a degree. They are losing son its easy to be humble and impartial
Aussie commentary is brilliant
@@hulk8384 except Shane Warne
@@imviiku no, mark Howard, Kerry o Keefe, warne, Gilchrist all are great for me.
@@imviiku even the female commentator, I forgot her name
I would. Have to say that is one of the most balanced and insightful analyses I have seen. The one thing I would add is that is ridiculous to think a touring team can perform well in a test with almost no preparation in the country they are playing in. The packed playing calendar forces this and devalues test cricket. This from a passionate Aussie supporter
Rob key is absolutely gun .. love him absolutely on his frankness
Smith getting out cheaply was one positive thing we can take from this game. We miss Archer so much. I think the Aussies fear him and he would have been brilliant in Australia.
Totally agree mate. Would have spiced this series up so much if Archer was there. Also a decent spinner is something they're really missing. I don't rate Leach too highly I'm sorry to say. Maybe on subcontinent tours but not in Australia.
Archer wouldn’t have affected englands batting would he? The batting is the problem
@@Teeps1921 it's a whole other problem lol. I don't think the bowlers did too well either. Only Wood and Robinson looked like getting a wicket the whole time.
@@shahmianas8512 Leach is very good in Sri Lanka and even India where he came back well after being smacked around by Pant. He would be good in somewhere like Sydney as well where it normally turns later on but the Gabba wasn’t the right pitch for him. Should have picked Broad.
@@Teeps1921 Archer would have got them out quicker I think which helps our batsmen. I didn’t say it for his batting obviously. One helps the other though.
Aussies played really well. England must figure Out what to do with that fragile Middle Order.
how did Australia play very well ?? England played very bad cricket 🏏 all due credit to Head labuschayne
England was gifting them wickets
We had the best lower/middle order in world cricket, Ed Smith destroyed it with his Buttler vanity project.
It's more psychological for England...I don't believe they have the belief in themselves that they could win in Australia. Teams know that when they play England if you get one wicket the rest will crumble.
Yes Technically England hasn’t won a test match in Australia after 2010/2011 series.
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Spot on. Any rational England supporter watching this team over the past 4/5 years knows that the batting is far too feeble. You can’t trust this team to win at home against this AUS team let alone down under.
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I just love, how hindsight becomes so important in cricket. All the chances Eng squandered to remove Warner early and could have been a different game.
I am really missing The test team of Alastair cook that had Kp, Trott, Prior, Anderson, Broad, Bell
You must be the only person in the world who could miss Cook, Trott and Bell lol
@@CountMackula No, lots of people loved watching Bell bat. He was great to watch - very elegant.
@@CountMackula bro they were the best and that team was the team to beat ....I do also miss those time and that cricketers
Haseeb hameed and Rory Burns compared to Cook and Strauss tells you all you need to know about England’s batting.
When is Nasser gonna talk about the blood stains on his wall?
You're spot on Nas about England being too concerned about future matches overlooking current needs, I mean it was a terrible decision to leave out both Anderson and Broad keeping the Day-nighter Test in mind. They should have gone in with at least either of them. A similar blunder was made before the Ahmedabad Daynighter against India.
Which was worse this selection or ahemdabad day and night or fourth test in india where they picked 3 bowlers
@@Sahil_bhatia506 All of them tbh.
@@VS-ho6rb yeah
I don’t think leaving out Broad & Anderson was not the issue as it does not matter who you have as bowlers if you cannot occupy the crease and bat for runs and at the same time but you have to bat for time because if you don’t then you are gifting a major advantage to your opponents I hope that England can bounce back and at least provide a good contest and put themselves in a place to win.
As an Australian the Ashes is my favourite time of the cricket year and I absolutely do not like it becoming such a one sided contest and in turn Test Cricket as a format is being tarnished. The format of T20 cricket should not be the leading format of cricket ever.Test cricket is the best format and the original and still the best.
Well said. The unfortunate thing is that we aren’t bouncing back at all. It’ll be 5-0. 4-0 at least to Australia. We aren’t good enough at batting or fielding. Plus we seem to have rotten luck as well. England have landed in Australia and gone into the series without any cricket beforehand in Australia like you said though. In the last Ashes series in England, Australia were able to play warmup games and get used to the conditions. It does help.
The best line by Mike Arth -- I know what's it's to face the first ball of an Ashes Series and Nas you perhaps know what's it's like to face the second ball 😂😂😂 (20:26)
I do miss Sky having the rights to show the ashes. The cast is so much better than BT and the most annoying aspect of BT is they do not show what the Aussie commentators are reviewing. We end up seeing someone’s boot.
As for the game, typical England. When they have a bad session(s) it is a match defining session(s). England have been so poor with the bat for a substantial period of time. As soon as the focus turned to white ball cricket the red ball team dropped in standard. England will not win any overseas tour against decent opposition because they simply cannot bat long. As for the next test, we saw it in the previous Ashes tour, we assumed the pink ball would benefit us and we still got beat and quite comfortably in the end, I do not see any difference this time round even with Jimmy and Broad back.
As an Aussie, I can't get around why the only Aussies opinion they seem to mention is Warne. Theres this English obsession with Warne that seems baffling
3 of my favourites.... Lovd when they played cricket , love when they talk cricket 😊
Rob key?? Really 🤣🤣when did he play cricket.
@@JunaidKhan-pd1sp Key scored a double hundred against the West Indies at Lords. It was his only Test century, but he has a higher Test best score than Hussain or Atherton so he wasn't that bad as an opener.
Joe Root is better spinner than Jack Leach any day any time.
No chance
Haha
3:44
Nasser: "The problem with the English batting lineup in those conditions on Day 1, green dampish pitch, cloudy skies and the australian bowling lineup".
Me: Just replace it with "Brown turning tracks, clear skies and the Indian bowling lineup".
The one constant in both sentences is "The problem with the English batting lineup".
when i woke up this morning the match was over🤣🤣🤣
😂😂 I went to check cricbuzz to see root and malan baby hundred
Same thing happened to the english team - before they woke up the game was over :-)
@@varunsuresh9737 yeah it shows Joe is the real 'Root' of team England if opponent got him out easily the results would be in their favours, n innings in past headingly from stokes was once in a blue moon
I think the experts have not watched the India Australia Series 20-21
1) The Indian Team did not take unnecessary risks against Green when he bowled the few overs with Old ball 70-80 over period, thus increasing the workload for other Australian quicks when Starc Potency start to reduce after 1st 2 Tests . Green did not any wicket in that series.
2) To Labuchagne and Smith, they exploited their tendency to flick balls on off stump in the air by keeping men behind sqaure and Mid wicket.
I think if England use 2 tactics it will help them in the rest of the 4 tests, dont take unnecessary risks against Green and keep a lid on Smith and Labuschagne scoring.
I love watching and listening to Arterton. He is absolutely fantastic to hear. As Indians we were told what Oxford English is, he is a proof for it.
The selectors need to be ruthless and ambitious with changing things up. Burns is in very poor form with his head over at nearly second slip when the bowl is delivered - I'd replace him despite him basically being one of the the top 3 batters in the last year. Give Crawley a second chance as an opener. Give Pope a shot at 3 if you want him to be the future of the team, have Root and Malan to anchor the innings at 4 and 5, and play Stokes at 7 to play and counter-attack with the tail. A right handed spinner is a good change to left handers. Controversial maybe but just try something a bit left field.
Hameed, Crawley, Pope, Root (c), Malan, Buttler (wk), Stokes, Bess, Wood, Robinson, Anderson
Why not Bairstow try him as opener he may succeed as Rohit r Rahul
Perfect..only one change ...Stokes should come before Butler i guess...they should try for an attacking opener , Jason Roy or Johnny B
Bro honestly the main problem is your bowling. I would somehow go with 5 bowlers + stokes. Else it will very difficult for England to bowl out Aus as they baf very deep and pretty well in Australian conditions.
@@mallikarjunroyal6878 Bairstow needs a technique change to an opener. His bat pad gap is a cavern. Number 5-6 is great for him. If they had good openers it'd be help him greatly too.
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Atherton and Nassir! I can listen to them all day
Even if it's Australia, you need a world-class spinner to win a test there. India had Ashwin, who dominated Smith most of the time last year.
You guys are the best! I love hearing your analysis as much as watching Cricket. Humble and to the point covering all perspectives
Joe Root's chronic condition of getting out early after making a big score the day before! So irritating!
NZ and England getting routed in series after series in Australia tells you how big an achievement it is for India to win back to back test series there ...South Africa is another team which has given good fight to the Australians ....Tells you only one thing, Batsmen are the key to winning in Australia... Good Bowling is a given but you need good batsmen to build innings there... England's current batting line up is so fragile ...
Well they had little to no practice heading into the match, broad said it himself they're probably the worst prepared side to ever play ashes. But the problem that eng encountered wasn't necessarily due to lack of practice, this is something that had hints in 2018-19 and really has come to a head in the last two years....the collapses. So many times....sometimes from the very first wicket, other after root is dismissed. Unless other english batsmen step up, you can play every swing and pace bowler under the sun and it still won't be enough. It's always root and one other guy, it needs to be root and atleast 4 other guys. Only then will England be able to consistently win 3 or 4 days of a test match, thus winning the test.
Well said. been a 1 man batting lineup for a long long time
Australia had no preparation either
Spot on. Ever since cook retired the writings been on the wall.
Dude Aus hasn't played a test in a year 🤦♂️
@@madjik2517 Australia came in at the back of Sheffield shield games....England had intra squad matches washed out and no practice matches due to covid restrictions.
No Masala..No unnecessary drama.. no bgm..straight to the point with cricketing reasons..thats what makes these analysis different from what we get to see on Indian cricket shows
Wood averages 50, he isn’t very good. Stokes is a fifth bowler and is injured. Leech is bowling throw downs on hard flat wickets. WOakes is a gentle medium pacer, useful
In England, not here. It’s not that difficult to find someone to replace Nasser.
Edit; none of this matters anyway when you only have one batsman
What about getting Vince in from the Big Bash in that top order? He's technically pretty sound, reasurred, experienced and had a decent tour last time round. Maybe even consider getting in Sam Billings (again, technically sound) in the middle order if Ollie Pope doesn't get going. He seems like a better option than Dan Lawrence.
Sam Billing and Vince are better white ball players. Pope hopefully will come good he is to good for first class cricket but just hasn't done it for England.
England need bowlers like bumrah or Archer on australian pitches not like 125 - 130 km speed bowlers.
They also bat well like cook and Kevin did in Australia
What you talking about. Wood bowled 150k.
@@madjik2517 but not lethal as Archer and Bumrah are
I don't think England are going to win a Single Test Match in Australia. It has been almost 11 Years when England won a Test Match in Australia
Always great listening to Nass and Athers
England's batsmen are always going to struggle against the extra pace and bounce of the Aussie quicks. Our bowlers lack penetration on hard flat pitches.
Same thing applies to new Zealand also, it's always going to be a question of adapting to the spin of Asia and bounce of Australia
Brilliant, good to see the three of them in such good form !
These 3 are the best in analyzing. No more arguments
How do you spend 40 mins talking about the Test and not once mention Travis Head? 😂
Anderson and broad have been carrying England for years. Once they go, England will be bang average. The batting line up is a mess too
England haven't developed a good full time test bowler since Anderson and Broad
@@mosinqureshi2745 Apart from Woakes, Robinson, Wood, Archer, Curran, Finn, Bresnan, Tremlett, Sidebottom, Stokes and Overton
@@firemouse3000 Considering Archer and Robinson, rest are bits and pieces
@@mosinqureshi2745 Not really. The rest have about 700 wickets between them
Ind never gave excuses instead of losing premiere players they beat aus at gabba
Still lostwc test final.
Big mistake not taking Darren Stevens.
Talking from a neutral view point.. do you guys think England have a settled batting order ..I mean the top 7 barring the openers and root they keep coming at different numbers in diff games .. for the shorter form that may be great .. for tests does it make sense .. really thot butler and stokes would come out and make something happen
England need some players like Pujara and Vihari and ashwin who can anchor on the pitch
Root is a better spinner than leach and bess
I dont mind the toss, i still think Joe made a good decision batting first but team selection was very poor. Why are we picking stokes who hasnt played much cricket for a while. Why wasn't either jimmy or broad in the team ? I dont understand, Bracey has been good this year, why was he left out ?
10:00 Key spot on as it turned out in the 2nd test.
How people expect England to beat Australia is beyond my understanding...
They are 2-1 down to india at home and England almost lost the 1st test as well, not for the rain to save them on final day ..
It's clear they are poor with bat and cannot beat a class side if they play to their potential...
England should start finding some good batters
Lost 2-0 to New Zealand at Home.
@@KshitijBhambri1 true... They are not a class unit currently
Worst english team ever
Please please PLEASE bring in Foakes as wicketkeeper. Maybe keep Buttler as an aggressive batsman but Foakes has to be in.
Feel more proud for the back to back series win by India seeing how other teams hardly find sucess in Australia
How can you call Anderson great bowler when he always plays on pitch and conditions which suits him...!!!!! Great bowlers don't do that. Remember guy called Dale steyn who succeeded wherever he played that's called the greatness..!!!
The batting line up must be one of the worst England have ever had, in this day and age to only have 1 batsman with an average over 40 how on earth do you think you can possibly rack up solid totals. It's actually even worse than that as with the exception of Stokes the rest aren't even sniffing 35 at test match level-terrible.
Naser hussain is es ever commentrator and analyst ..i love him
Good honest appraisal lads cheers from Brisbane....
Nasser is such a good sport. Kudos to him.
The fact remains that England is a very ordinary team.
Such a treat to listen to you guys as a cricket fan.
Really three wise men of sport of this sport for sure
These 3 are simply amazing !!!
I rate the English pace attack. Warner especially looked uncomfortable against them. Starc is rubbish for Australia. The weak link of the Australian pace attack. England middle order let it down.
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England don't have any up-and-coming fast bowlers if they did! Anderson who is 40 years old is England best bowler! You would kill for Starc
Should’ve had the X factor spinner Adil rashid in the side, next game I’d go crawley in for burns and bairstow in for pope (burns and pope just aren’t top level batsmen) and broad or Anderson in for woakes
England always over think things an end up messing up big time
Bairstow should keep.......
As an Aussie viewer honestly I didn't think Leach bowled many bad balls across the test. I can recall about 3 or 4 genuine pies that deserved to disappear.
But the Aussies were absolutely committed to making sure he had an economy of 6 and over, forget 4 and over. Marnus basically sacrificed his wicket to try and put his foot on the gas unnecessarily.
Sure he had a bad game but he needs to realise that the Aussies are gonna be coming like freight trains at his bowling. They don't want him to Swann them down like he did in '10/'11.
Was rob key praising warner's attacking style at 1:30 ?
Anderson should've played Brisbane, Adelaide, Hobart.
1st test match always sets up the tone for the series.
Enjoyed the commentary guys.
Nasser can and should laugh off the Gabba "we'll have a bowl" call. Len Hutton did it and dont forget another fine captain Ponting lost Glenn McGrath just before the Edgbaston 2nd test in 05 but won the toss and did the same...that didnt work out well either. Claimed it was his worst mistake. Similar to an attacking declaration chasing a win then losing...anything can happen on the day. Ordinary decisions are over-analysed with hindsight, but the good ones you make are simply glossed over and forgotten.
The biggest problem is that England can’t soak up pressure spells when they are batting. The best teams can ride and wave off tough spells of bowling, which this England side simply can’t (and that does include Root himself). Against a top bowling unit like the Aussies, it will be all about England being able to counter the spells and pile on the runs where the Aussies aren’t at their best, but given how effective and well rounded their bowling attack is, it won’t be an assured scenario. Malan and Root’s partnerships are England’s only hope, and we just have to hope Stokes builds up enough confidence through the series and hope he delivers 2-3 special innings through the remainder of the tour, as I highly doubt Pope and Buttler will offer much support other than their pretty 20-30s (as per their test averages) and kick on once they are set.
England middle order is fragile and ineffective...You can’t win test matches just coz of Root ..Undoubtedly he’s best in business but can’t get u over the line every single time he goes out to bat…!
Jest watched Nassar's captain in Gabba. Feeling so funny 😸
India vs England, Anderson bowled too many overs. Australia vs England, Anderson has no match practice. Does anyone see the contradiction?
I think even not selecting James Anderson was big mistake. None of English bowlers are even closed to the nature of swing he offers. In the last series against India he was the one who destroyed or say to least troubled Indian batting.
Keeping that aside, they need proper test batsman who has good temperament and class batting. As of now except none seems to there.
This series will possibly also highlight how important Pujaras role in grinding the pace bowlers was when India played. Playing time is a lost art
As wonderful as it is to hear these guys, they’re probably being a bit too soft here. Taking the example of the recent India series, there are many things which are way too lenient at the international.
Hameed scores two twenties, but it’s fine because it’s his first test in Australia. Gill made his debut after the team was bowled out for 36, and then he hit a match winning innings in the 4th innings at the Gabba.
Leach’s job is just to hold up an end and give the pacers a break? That’s too negative a mindset. You can never tell Ashwin to hold up an end. Let’s forget Ashwin, his quality is just way too good. Washington Sundar picked up Smith as his first test wicket on his debut. You can’t just back off in Australia. You have to be at it all the time.
And lastly, a particular moment setting up the tone for the entire series? You’ve gotta fight it out in Australia. We got bowled out for 36, won the next test in a bit over 3 days. Australia needed 5 wickets to win with the new ball, Ashwin and Vihari battled it out in pain(both missed the next test). We scored 324 on day 5 at the “Gabbatoir” . We were 180-6 in the first innings at the Gabba, ended up scoring 336. Whenever we were behind, we came back. Ponting had said after day 4 of the last test that India’s resolve will break down tomorrow, and it didn’t. We were in a clearly losing position at Lord’s, won that match by bowling England out in less than 2 sessions. You’ve always got to take the fight to them in Australia, you can’t show weaknesses or negative mindset. Can’t go in saying that a draw at the Gabba would be a good result. England’s mentality under Root is very poor
They ain't soft... They just know the fact that quality under England's disposal is too mediocre
England have treated Sam Hain, northeast, Robson pretty badly, Tom westley is s much better player than Lawrence, Crawley, hameed etc, far to long there has been bias selection in English cricket and sadly now they are far off from playing their best 11, hildreth wasted for far lesser players like Morgan, bopara etc.
Australian here.
You blokes are way better than current Aussie commentator/analysts.
Richie, where are you?
Very good listen that, thoroughly enjoyed it!
This Trio Is Simply The Best When It Comes To Cricket 🏏 Analysis. So Soothing To Ears With Deep Knowledge Of Cricket And On The Other Hand Just Look At Indian Jokers Analysts. But Let's Come To Cricket I Was Expecting A Fight From England In 2nd Inning But They Couldn't Capitalised On Yestrday Score. Really It's Very Difficult To Beat Australia In Australia, So Hat's Off To Indian Team They Did Twice .
Really enjoyed all podcasts. Thank you.
Does key and others know broad's and anderson's average in australia ?.
Broad is record at the gabba and mcg is very good . Anderson's record at adelaide mcg and scg is very good . Perth lets them both down but time in Australia
It’s the worst batting line up , and England have had some stinkers these last 30 years, take out root,and stokes is our next best batsman,stokes should never bat at 5 ,to high, he’s played over 70 test matches and only averages mid 30s, capable of great innings , but they are once in a blue moon
Just phenomenal analysis, what a trio this is
The point I can’t understand about the toss is that you can’t lose a game bowling first. You can obviously make it hard to keep in the game, but you can certainly lose the game batting first. Plus all of the ceremonies and speeches before the first ball doesn’t give the batsmen time to get settled in their minds.
Yes, you can. By deciding to bowl on an absolute belter beaut like Hussain in 2003.
I still believe moeen Ali should have retired after this series..... He would have been a far better bowler than leach and handy lower order batsman as well..
Cant agree with you more - excellent point. England who plan for future than the present should have talked to Moeen to retire after the ashes. At least with his bowling could have kept warner and carey (the lefties) in check. He likse ball coming on to the bat and as a batter could have thrived in these conditions.
How you would not play either one of the two - Broad or Anderson is just ridiculous. Forget the pitch, the wealth of experience they bring is essential on tours like these.
Lovely to hear these 3 men. M Atherton my best
Stats of the pundits:
Rob Key: 15 Tests, average 31.0
Nasser Hussain: 96 Tests, average 37.2
Michael Atherton: 115 Tests, average 37.7
And?
@@peternagy-im4be what more do you want?
@@andygarrod5611 pundit playing stats mean absolutely nothing mate
@@peternagy-im4be so ignore them and move on with your life.
What are your stats?