SECOND TEST PREVIEW! 🏏 Nasser, Key, Atherton and Ward look ahead to the second Ashes test!
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With the second Ashes test right around the corner, Rob Key, Nasser Hussain, Michael Atherton and Ian Ward look at the most important aspects leading up to the second Ashes test in Adelaide.
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The best non-partisan pod cast currently, with great analysis , cricketing punditry and that typical British banter. Love the camaraderie between the panelists, insights and the respect these folks show for cricketers of other nationality. My only gripe is the technical aspect of this podcast. Surely Skysports can sponsor good cameras n lighting arrangement to enrich the experience. These gentlemen deserve better.
Totally agree, it’s like they’re chatting in the pub which is obviously something we do a lot here in the UK but with brilliant insight as well
Nah. Grade Cricketer is better
I like that they're just sitting at home, far more relaxed, if it was in the studio it would be something far more polished and scripted. Would lose the whole friends at the pub vibe.
Not really sure it's non partisan, clearly from an English perspective.
Sumanth prasad@ totally agree with you sky sports analysis totally unbasied they said right things all the time.
It's rubbish. Did you even watch it? Rob Key called Michael Vaughan a genius ffs 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Naseer Hussain saying "I am a bit worried. I have been thinking exactly like Rob Key in the last couple of days." 😂😂
Always loved the banter between Naseer Hussain and Rob Key.
Mann!! I can listen to Nass and Ather for hours and hours. These two are that good. Has to be the best out there.
Easily
Please don’t replace those 2 with a PC correct choice
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I always wait notification for sky pod cast, amazing cricket detail analysis by this 4. Better to watch 45 minutes here than to hear whole commentary of indian winter 🤣🤣🤣
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Amen brother...
Murli kartik, deep das, jatin sapru... 😂 Fml serioualy
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
@@anonymous.7244 Last line is true only, who will waste so much time in watching a test match, when they only play defense most of the time? Watching bits and pieces or highlights is agreeable, but watching for the full day is too much
As many folks mentioned below , Nass and Arth are a treat to listen to in the company of Key and Ward.. Awesome stuff..Loved every bit of it..
Absolutely love these pod casts. 3 guys with so much experience and love for the game. I especially enjoy Rob Key’s contributions, it was absolute joke he didn’t play more for England.
The best commentary panel going round (ever in my opinion) 🙌🙌🙌
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
Looks like U were not around during the BBC test match special on radio in 1970's and 1980's. John Arlott, Brian Johnston, Don Mowsy, Christopher Martin Jenkins, Henry Blofeld, Tony Lewis as commentators. Fred Trueman and Trevor Bailey as experts with the "Bearded wonder" Bill Frindall as statistician. Boy, that was quite a commentary panel that brought live action through sound waves on radio. Don't think any one of them except Henry Blofeld are still alive.
Have you ever heard of Richie Benaud or Tony Greig don’t be silly
@@jakehowie442 well yeah, but I was very little when they were going, so I don't remember much live. It's hard to say fully on highlights. Besides, I said IN MY OPINION
It's always a delight to watch 4 of you together...Good punditry, great thoughts with bits of Keys comics...all and all good insights...keep it up lads.
The best cricket analysis...whether pre or post absolutely spot on
Not really
The best 💯
It's awful
@@robeson1231 you sound hurt but anyways.
12:00
The selectors have backed themselves into a corner with the first test clangers. They HAVE to pick Anderson and Broad now. The wicket doesn’t matter, Leech or Bess are just going to be walloped from one end of Australia to the other.
I have no idea why they decided to keep both on the bench for the 1st test. Makes absolutely no sense. Either one or both should have played.
No matter what a Spinner must be picked, Joe Root and Dawid Malan just won't cut it.
@@christianfrost8660 yep I agree. A spinner is a must in Australia.
Ward one of the best commentators in the world...my goodness what a voice he is
Its always a treat to watch these guys, pure cricketing experience, detailed analysis
I'm an Australian but this is such high quality stuff, really enjoy this
Rowan Whittingham. As a fellow aussie, I agree, and much better than the vast majority of our pundits, whom I find to be self absorbed and/or juvenile. p.s The standards of Australian cricket commentary have "fallen of a cliff" since Ritchie Benuads' passing.
England are missing that fire and agression which you need to beat Australia in Australia showcased by India in their consecutive tours.
They can't even find what they need to win at home let alone in Australia.
even if they had Archer fully fit, Aus would still be the favorites. Only have 2 class batters in the team. The 2010 team had the top7 averaging over 40.
The only reason I might push for Broad to play over Anderson at Adelaide is that if he can get it to swing in to Warner (assuming he plays) and get him out early the mind games could begin again which could prove vital if Smith doesn’t pick up his form.
Ueah thats been all ways the plan. If we could catch a bit better we could of got him cheaply twice. He's been in awful form for over a year and all of a sudden he's got a 90 under his belt at a start of an ashes series...👏 lol
That’s why they should have picked Broad in the first test. Instead we didn’t go round the wicket enough to Warner and he battled (fluked?) his way to a decent score. He will be more confident now and I don’t think he will be quite so easy for Broad to dominate. England lost the initiative when they decided to drop Broad. I am not sure they are going to get it back again.
@@skparkes1969 Yh I completely agree
Really wish you lads where covering the ashes
On that last tour, India was ahead after the first innings in Adelaide and then got bowled out for 36 and lost. But they came back to win 2 of the next 3 tests. So it is possible.
That was just a warm up tour. Australia won't be taking it as easy against a real opponent.
@@louquay nice joke 😂😂😂
I feel like am ready to hear my medical lecture,when I hear to this sky sports cricket conversations, especially Naz arthurs n Rob
Can you guys not find a way to commentate on the second test, I miss sky cricket commentary! Class as always!
Yes.. the unnecessory screaming on fox is so annoying
sky sports dont have the rights to the game.
Really enjoyed this, keep them coming. For England, losing this 2nd test is not an option!
Tragically it appears very much a significant choice on offer.
This is England's best chance to win a game with Hazlewood out. The guy alone has 32 wickets in day/night games.
Still they had to score 300 in first inning
Yes Hazelwood is a star. I’d have him in the top 4 fast bowlers in the world. Cummins, Bumrah, Rebada and Hazelwood.
Being an Aussie in Oz. I much prefer to listening to you guys. The muppets over here are way to biased and half the time straight out wrong in their theories. Keep up the good work boys and hope we have a better test to watch today.
Very kind. I've always found it amusing that people say Emgland are arrogant. No one will tear apart an English team/ player/ idea/ culture .. like the English themselves. No one will worry more or lack confidence than the English.
Watching this after day 1 of 2nd test and Nasser Hussain is spot on😅🤯🔥
incredible he called it all
The Adelaide Oval pitch has been a drop-in wicket since professional Aussie Rules returned to the ground on a permanent basis in 2013, so Athers is right - a lot of those 'traditional' characteristics of the pitch Nass referred to aren't really relevant anymore
The environment is worth a mention. This is the Gabba, Brisbane, and it is early December, it is hot, it is humid and there is only warm air drifting through and the likely event of tropical rain at any time of the 24 hour cycle. It is so hot to stand, run and field in the sun in a caldron like the Gabba where there is no breeze and when the clouds drift over it is still hot, the rain is warm and when the sun comes out again it feels like the glass ceiling just got washed. Any cricketer at the Gabba for the first time will be severely tested on staying 'ín the game'', the cricket will not be the problem for them. They will be okay when they get to the southern states where the heat is a dry one and a chance for coolish air flows. But when they get to the SCG the humidity will have reached Sydney. Enjoying the commentary immensely, nothing like a good old test match. To those who say it is slow orta get the pads on, grab a bat and get out to the crease, then will learn how fast test cricket is.
England have got to be really careful about putting too much into the pink ball. England have never won an away D/N test and Australia have won every single one they've ever played. Starc has almost 50 wickets in 8 D/N tests at 18 and Cummins's average is 16 for his 25ish wickets. The conditions may well suit England bowlers more than the usual Aussie pitches, but it'll suit the Aussie bowlers just as much! As usual the batting is the problem. If you get blown away for 150 your bowling attack is almost irrelevant.
I give this match 3 days for Australia to crush England. That terrible batting lineup won't last too long against Starc and Cummins.
Clutching at straws. We lost the last pink ball game in Australia.
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
As long as Jimmy Anderson plays and Broad should’ve played the first test
@@jakehowie442 Won't make a shred of difference.
I can watch this conversation all day along. Best Cricket Show EVER.
It's really not
Not sure why the panel is focusing so much on the bowlers for this match . England's biggest issue is that they have only 2 proper batsmen ( Root and Stokes) . Most of the rest have very poor to average records!
Just gotta bring Jonny or Crawley for burns and Anderson and broad for leach and wood
“Defense is skill and offense is mentality” - Dustin Poirier
Who the hell is he?
@@peternagy-im4be that’s what I thought. Never heard of him.
@@peternagy-im4be UFC fighter- Merican
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
@@peternagy-im4be A UFC fighter. Never been world champ (just lost a title opportunity against a guy named Oliviera). But he's a veteran and a very tough boxer (an aspect of UFC)
35:26 "It looks like the modern concept is: if in doubt, positive"
Williamson doesn't do this, which makes him so refreshing and genius. In the 2019 ODI WC, he adapted, absorbed, then launched.
Absolutely right.Williamson is so refreshing that he became a home track bully
@@alvekarim5940 Suuure, but in NZ, a notoriously hard place to bat...especially at 3
@@alvekarim5940 nope, he peforms well outside home too, check his away stats. plus his captaincy is even better in every format.
@@11hitmanDagenius he won a series in UAE and England, other than that he was whitewashed in Australia, South Africa and India. In those tours he was struggling to get past 50. Thing is he's a good batsman and captain but he's overrated.
@@souvikbarui9387 He got 2 hundreds in a tour to Aus, that's pretty damn good these days. NZ hasn't toured SA for a while, when they did (by memory) NZ batting order was not as good-I could be wrong though. Root and Williamson haven't had a much backup in the batting order (until recently in nz's case). Kohli and Smith have had the luxury of steady players around them, that definitely comes into it. He hasn't had the away tours like the other big 3 have had so he's been left to play at home more, and he's killed it. That's not on him. Taking out his first few years in tests when he was a young bloke, he's been doing great for 6 years. No question.
The clearest thinking observers in cricket - what a team
"That ended the lesson" - Keysey's mic drop moment xD
When it is tricky to choose... you pick a team that looks most up for it!! See who is due for a match winning performance-- the best captains always have that instinct!! And, if a captain is not going to go with his instincts every now and then, without the pressure of having to explain his every decision, then all that leading from the front is not going to have much conviction!!!
Also, this English side looks a bit homesick... they need to look like they own the australian turf a bit more!!!
After bowling just 10-12 overs His speed dips down to 120s , if he maintains 130s continuously the he can be more deadly i guess... Ollie Robinson one of the greatest red ball bowler in making like Hazlewood, Mcgrath, Pollock
As an Aussie, I must say Nasser spoke correctly the whole way through.
The Adelaide pitch is still the Adelaide pitch. You need a spinner.
If you win the toss, you bat first. It'll be a tricky first hour, but then it'll flatten out and you can cash in before the evening comes. Then you have to deal with the swinging ball.
But between those times, you need a spinner. And Leach won't go for as many on this deck as he did at the GABBA. Purely because Adelaide Oval eventually turns.
The reason why Australia have won so many pink ball tests isn't because of what happens at night, but they've been well equipped with what is needed during the day.
England need to be wary of that.
Perfect commentators Such class and grace just talking cricket
Super super super , nassir and Key on defence and being positive, fantastic, can't miss those.
Two pink ball tests is encouraging as an England fan but unless the batting is in order, and I'm not talking about playing one good match and then returning to the usual again, but not suffering collapses even in losing cause, they won't win.
Pink ball=little difference. No batting means no test victories
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
By far the worst England batting lineup I have ever seen.Awful technique no backbone.
Can they score 300 against this aussie bowling?
@@kanwarpreetsinghbrar5450 depends on if Hameed, stokes, butler and Lawrence and get it together and bat around root. I didn't mention ollie pope because he needs to be replaced by Dan Lawrence. Ollie pope sucks. No matter how much he may "look like Bell" while batting.
Great work guys as always. Lyon bowls a lot of overspin so if you see anyone playing ridiculous low % shots like a reverse sweep, give them a clip behind the ears and a quick plane ride home.
I cannot believe i didnt see a single proper sweep shot to Lyon in Brisbane. That wicket was playing true in Englands 2nd dig with very little irregularity of bounce, yet for some strange reason right hand bats were more keen to attempt reverse sweeps against the spin than trying to pierce the field on the leg side. Absolute stupidity when quick runs arnt required. If there's a gap at 3rd man with Lyon bowling it will be deliberate. Late cut a shorter ball or angle your bat, but dont bring 25 added forms of dismissal into play trying to reverse sweep a spinner that relies on bounce and overspin.
Both Buttler and Robinson tried it. Do they think it will impress someone ? All that happens if you hit it well is that it sponsors you to try it again. The end result is inevitable and if Oz see it they will deliberately leave a titanic sized gap backward of square hoping you do it again. Thats a mini-battle you will lose.
I think bounce makes it difficult to sweep.
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
As a batsmen there could be 3 issues for a batting fail: issue 1- a poor technique has creeped into your game and that has been called out by the bowlers or 2- you have gotten unlucky or have got out to some brilliant deliveries which no batsman can handle or 3- you are batting in a style that doesn't suit you. I think with the English this is problem no 3. Butler chose to play a half shot in both innings outside off stump which is not his method. pope chose to cut a spinner when he is poor at reading a spinners length and trajectory. 3. Malan chose to come down the track to a spinner when he is clearly.more comfortable playing in the back of his crease.
For me England need to make a bold decision...I would have brought in Liam Livingstone and told him to play his game..
He can be the KP of this generation , only way you win in Australia is by taken the game to them
Its amazing to think several years a go the ECB said to KP that the team is going in a different direction and you're part of it lol. We didn't have that luxury and just think he could of helped out these batsmen bed in towards the twighlight of his career. Dont even get me started on the pressure on Cook towards the end of his career. They also treated Thorpe in the same way!
Best England Seam bowler/ medium pacer in the squad.
Robinson and Wood (and Root)are the first names on my team list at the moment to try and face a superior Aussie team.
Anderson, Robinson, Woakes, Wood, Stokes. Bring Leach back in MCG, SCG.
Mark Wood needs a rest.
They just look so miserable and uptight
The Ozzies and Kiwis seem so much more relaxed and as if they're enjoying themselves
If their national teams were in such a state I'm pretty sure they would be miserable too.
@@christianfrost8660 Nah, I see all the time with England, whether its rugby, cricket or football
Over trained, too heavy expectations, too serious, too much staff, playing with fear
Seriously think they'd do better if they just turned up, had a few nights out, and picked the best team for the conditions the night before
Something Rob Key mentioned in minute 12:00 about Giles is not exactly accurate. He had ordinary ashes series whenever he played even in 2005 when England one. Australia went after him. Only Swann has ever done well against Australia as a spinner. And let's face it, touring teams who have won in Australia in the last 10 years have won with a quality spinner in the side. Swann in 2010-11, Jadeja and Kuldeep in 2018, Ashwin in 2020 are prime examples. Even in 2016-17 when south Africa were in Australia they had Keshav Maharaj debut in Perth and was instrumental in winning the test and series for them.
A few points here that are all sort of connected. O Robinson is a good bowler. Hes very accurate with excellent variation which is crucial on these flat pitches. He reminds me off Glen McGrath a bit but can also bat and certainly at number 8. Unfortunately for O.R he is in a generation of English bowlers where we have an embarrassment of Riches. I'm not overly keen on these bits and pieces players and especially bowlers that can bat a bit as oppose to a jaque kallis(yeah we wish lol). In contrast to the above our Batting is the worst I've seen in my lifetime. Even Atherton/Nasser Era we had players that could get stuck in, with likes of Nasser and Butcher complimenting world class shot makers like Thorpe,Stewart and then later on Trescothick, Vaughan and the very underrated Paul Collingwood. This England side have very poor openers and a middle order thats constantly under pressure when we are 4 down for a couple of dozen runs. These days we don't have a Collingwood or a Thorpe to steer the tail and if Roots goes cheaply we will very rarely post 300 let alone 400. Stokes average is mid 30s and he bats at 5 and he is considered one of our premium batsmen. Dont get me wrong anyone who has 250 against South Africa in South Africa all be it with no D.Steyn in the attack is no mug. He just doesn't have the consistency. I think Wokes is a brilliant Cricketer and he could play at 7 and Stokes at 6 and butler at 5 so he's not batting with the tail to squeeze in a 4-5 seam attack with O Robinson at 8 Wood 9 Broad 10 Anderson 11.
Buttler at 5 imo looks like a disaster waiting to happen, i would keep him with the tail
@@chrislosd162 I think he feels he needs to be aggressive because of that. Shot wise he's our most talented.
What does anyone think of this as a starting line up: burns, hameed, malan, root, lawrence, stokes, buttler, woakes, robinson, Broad, Anderson. 5 seamers, root and lawrence to offer occasional slower bowling. ENgland’s strength is their bowling. So why not just accept that playing a stronger bowling line up is the key.
Can’t drop pope
Wood must play .was their best bowler in Brisbane
Red Ball = Stay up late
Pink Ball = Get up early
Sky Sports cricket team is consistently the best set of analysts in British sport, and have been for decades. They should win an award. I could listen to Rob Key, Nasser Hussain and Michael Atherton all day. In fact, I'm sure they'd make better football pundits than the banal ex-pros the BBC and ITV put out.
Nassir still has the indian way of pulling the leg in a discussion. Superb.
Can listen to these fab 4 all day.....
Very good conversation and analysis. Keep up the good work
Totally agree with Rob keys . Batsman have to step up!
What a podcast ! Wow.. can listen to these folks everyday . Simply so natural yet intriguing👍
It's overrated
AB devillers is a genius in any format infact one of the goat .how can you say that he has done exceptionally well in all the formats.and technically he is way above than most of the England all time players.
This virtual pod style might actually beat the TV setup. No suits and ties , just 4 lads chatting about the cricket
I am banging the drum for Liam Livingston... He must be given a chance . Too many single runs scorers in the team need more power players . Aussies not scared to bowl to the likes of Crawley, Rory burns, Hameed. Downbeat already , give me some excitement England !
I would love to hear the panel discuss the option of changing the England team setup ... currently they play 6 batters, a wk and 4 specialist bowlers ... I would suggest England would be better served playing 5 batters, 1 wk, 1 allrounder and 4 specialist bowlers ... I would solve the problems of falling a bowler short if one of them breaks down with injury or on gets hit out of the attack (like Leach last match), as well as it would take the pressure of Stokes as he would not be needed to bowl (if the knee is an issue)... It might leave the team somewhat short on batting, but you get that feeling anyway in the current set up...
The team they picked for Brisbane had 5 batsmen and stokes as the all rounder, giving them 5 bowlers. And really, Woakes is a bowling allrounder too. To my mind in Australia that is an unbalanced team. 3 quicks, 1 spinner and 6 batsman is the best method, at least down under. Australian teams have generally gone this way and it works pretty well.
@@Superfly1503 I certainly do not disagree with that, but Stokes clearly was not fit enough to play as an allrounder .... So effectively England played with 6 bats, 1 wk and 1 allrounder and 3 bowlers .. and that seems unbalanced to me...
@@Superfly1503 And I would like to add to that, that if you only play 4 bowlers, none of them can break down or be hit out of the attack, because that leaves you with 2 bowlers and an allrounders, which certainly is completely unbalanced.... even Australia now play an allrounder in Green ....
@@feck1582 for me it looks like one too many bowlers. At least one too many of the same bowler. I take your point about bowlers breaking down but to me as a non Englishman that seems like negative thinking. If you’re picking a fifth bowler because you’re worried about breaking down then there are other issues at play.
Having said that, if they continue to bowl such negative lines then they could pick 8 bowlers and not create enough chances. Pitch it up, aim at the stumps and make the batsmen take a risk to score. I know Buttler dropped 2 catches but they’re the only chances they’ve had. Lots of plays and misses but those balls weren’t close enough to the stumps. At 2/221 the English are in trouble.
@@Superfly1503 Off course ..you are absolutely right ... in general 4 bowlers and an allrounder is plenty and breaking down should not be a part of the thought proces and I certainly would not advocate my 5-1-1-4 option for Australia (although India and NZ quite often use that setup), but recent past would suggest England are in a different position to Aus. With the loss of Archer and Stone (and even Carse) they lost 66% of their 90 mph potential, leaving them with limited bowling options (not so much in numbers, but very much in variation).. My suggestion would allow for them to pick an extra bowler and may be think outside the box a bit.. The only reason they have not picked Wood in this current match, is because they are afraid he breaks down and they are left with no pace whatsoever.. My option would have allowed space to include him and use him in really short 2 or 3 over spells, with limited risk of him getting injured, but still retain some variation in the attack..
This is called analysis keep it up guys from 🇳🇵
Mike Atherton is so underrated
Him and Nasser I think there the best.
1. Nasser
2. Artherton
3. Rob key
4. Ian
I went with that order because I love hearing all of them but Nasser and atherton are so great to hear. U can make a case for rob in the top 2 but i just edged him to third. Ian bless him he’s good but not as good as the others but very underrated
@@bobmarley7544 Ian Healy? Ian Smith?
He is perfectly rated
@@aryanjain5000 both are extremely good commentators. Atherton is a no nonsense guy, speaks what is needed and to the point. Gavaskar on the other hand is very nice to hear
@@bobmarley7544 Sunil ain't good but he's so much better than Shane Warne's Drivel, lol he's a nuclear grade weapon
I was waiting for the post match analysis for the first test
I wonder what the chances are that England will be 30-odd for 3 at some point?
They should play Matt Parkinson
I'm an Australian and i like these guys better than the Aussie commentators these guys talk about the issues and they don't come across as bias keep up the good work gents and ty
Don’t be so hard on the Aussies.. I can listen to Ian Chappell talk for years.
Good convo. Appreciate the expert views. Also, sounds like the Poms going down 0-2 in a few days. We could be heading towards a whitewash. You heard it here, first.
I still can't understand why Matt Parkinson isn't in the squad, England's best spinner, yes not a great batsman however he's a wicket taker and that's what England need from there spinner
I think he'll be there in the squad from 3rd test onwards
Superb analysis. Always eagerly waiting for this podcast. Even fox cricket hosted by Brendon julian was good alongwith 9 sports Matt Thompson, Mark Taylor and Ian chappel. Awesome, Amazing..
Calm down
@@robeson1231 no you calm down
I would play Anderson only. I would keep Leach in the team. He’s a better bowler than what was shown in Brisbane. The conditions in the first test were unsuitable for him. Broad should have played instead of him. I would play Anderson, Robinson, Wood and Leach with Stokes as another bowler along with Root. It’s not so much of an issue if the rest of the batsmen make some bloody runs!!
You can select Bumrah, Cummins, Rabada and Ashwin, you still will end up losing this test with that batting line-up, it's probably the poorest English batting line-up I've seen in my life time.
Hope you guys pull it off though, want to see an interesting series.
The conditions seemed to suit Nathan Lyon.
@@peternagy-im4be that’s because he wasn’t trying to defend a paltry total from his batsmen.
@@PJ-cm8ix definitely, Root excluded.
Bring in Anderson for the clearly injured Stokes-who is going to totally break down if they pick him.
I hope somebody was watching Ben Stokes's front foot while he was bowling in the nets.
England doin perfect thing resting wood for pink ball test as he'll be more useful on flat conditions which they'll get in 3rd n 4th test
The way England overthink the game, they wont pick 5 seamers coz they'll be more concerned with the horrible over rates and not getting paid.
Woakes, Wood, Robinson and Stokes is surely enough quick stuff. Why would you pick another one?
For a change Key is right...as long as the mindset is positive..even a leave or block has more intent
nice. Atherton is great. Nasser very good too.
What about playing the extra batsman with Root as the spinner. Amazed no one mentioned this.
I enjoyed the Leonard Cohen reference, personally..😄
I love this . Such great analysis ❤️🔥👍 . Sky sports please post all such podcasts on this UA-cam channel . We love it ❤️
Ian's a good vodcaster
I don't agree with Nas, nor with Rob. You don't just decide beforehand to play defensive, nor aggressive. You play the situation and then adapt. Marginalizing the errors is important, not pre-meditating.
i thought having plan means pre meditation? England dont have the batting technique to defend nor the ability to attack?
@@brenthargreaves7085 meant the cricket shots, not the actual preparation.
The Key to great cricket analysis on Hussain and who’s not so sane, depends At her ton of experience to move you forWard
Drop Leach and Woakes for both Broad and Anderson. Play to their strength which is a 5 seam attack. If needed Root can roll his arm over for 15 overs an innings. Leach offers little more coz he's red rag to a bull...they luv to punish and grind a bowler into the dirt and Leach has a target on his back. Get rid of the weakness.
I cannot believe the lack of attention that the Hazlewood injury has brought. It is a massive blow to the Aussies. He was superb in Brisbane and has a fine record in Adelaide. England should and will pepper Smith with short stuff. He looked very very comfy in Brisbane during his short knock...he looks due.
Bull's are colour blind and Leach can still take wickets whether he goes at 1 and over or 10 an over.
@Tom Martyr Leach is not useless, he did well in the previous Ashes and very well in the Subcontinent.
Bating is the main problem for England not bowling, but one more thing about bowling that fitness is always a main problem for English bowlers in last 15 years.
Darren Stevens should be touring with England.
The best chance to win in Adelaide is by winning the toss and getting big first innings total
So in England's case no chance whatsoever..
Always excellent and incisive analysis from this crew. So much better than Warne/O'Keefe/Mark Waugh hipster drivel - and I'm an Aussie. If it doesn't work out for Rob Key, he can always do voiceovers for Tom Hardy on Peaky Blinders.
It's ashes only when Australia is visiting England, with home advantage we see England compete and ashes is even.
It's literally no competition when England tours Australia. No Cummins, no Hazlewood yet I am writing this comment when England is 170/6. Root reminds me of the era of indian cricket when Sachin always use to come at 10/2 or 20/2 , feel bad for him, forget winning in Australia, try to complete first of all.
and this is why this group continually repeats prior series mistakes. They never analyse and identify the reason for their failure and work at not repeating the mistakes. Instead they collectively "move on" from it and treat it like its some sort of one time event not to be talked about again.
Ath is bang on regarding batting being an individual process. Team tactics are so overrated! 😎🎸🤘
at 25:13 , england fast bowling being outstanding is a myth in australia . that bowling lineup hasn't been good enough to take 10 wickets regularly whether it is in 2013 or 2017 but nasser and other english pundits ignorantly keep repeating that
34:30- 35:54 This is so true and that's why only Test Cricket is real Cricket and ODIs and t20is are just for entertainment and monetary purposes as large chunk of cricket audience doesn't understand Test Cricket or don't wanna invest so much time in following tests
@varun , bro they keep doing that, i asia they say you guys prepare spin friendly wickets, i aus their pacers get smacking of lyf yet they are world class fast bowlers just bowling well in england and in NZ. But. If any spinner bowl well there or anywhere they come well he has played so many tests so bound to perform bla bla.
There was nothing wrong with Chris Woakes, Ollie Robinson or Mark Wood in the first test. They all bowled just as well as Australia's bowlers.
Good one..!
29:20 true but also mcgrath stepping on the ball changed the series
For English batting to improve they must stop using the Dukes ball at home as it makes batting extremely difficult and saps batsmen's confidence. It also exaggerates the skills of their swing and seam bowlers - for all his greatness just look at Anderson's record on the true pitches in Australia and the kookaburra ball
I couldn't agree with you more.
I don’t know why we aren’t giving Parkinson a chance. We’ve needed a leg spinner for a long, long time and he looks decent from what I’ve seen of him.
Australia will bloody destroy him. Take him apart he would never play again.
I meant before this series. He could have played in Sri Lanka earlier this year at least. India as well instead of Bess.
mason crane was similar, he did nothing after making his debut in Aus 4 years ago
@@richardoshea2071 don’t know why they didn’t give him more of a chance.
@@mrkipling2201 Chris Silverwood doesn't rate spinners in England.
Fantastic podcast
is there a dukes pink ball
England should play 5 seamers. While.i understand the argument around wicket getting dry and spin coming in handy, england does not have good enough spinners to scare the Aussie batsmen. Go with your best players and match winners rather than optimizing for possible pitch conditions on day 5 by selecting subpar players. Try to win on day 1-3 then day 5 needs won't matter
I wrote the comment below during the 20 odd minutes discussion about the bowling attack.
Remember india got bowled out for 36 in Adelaide when the sun was out. There’s enough in the wicket for the quicks even during the day. They leave more grass on the Adelaide pitch these days- it’s not the absolute road it used to be. Can England last 2 sessions?