You just don’t know how to properly shoot a red dot and aren’t being target focused. I wear prescription glasses for astigmatism and shoot red dots without glasses with zero issues
@@kyleling1909 it’s not a red dot it’s a holographic. The mechanisms are two different things. Try it on a holographic and lmk if you can see it clearly without your glasses.
@@edwardvasquez7640different operating method but exact same concept. You aren’t supposed to look at the dot/reticle when shooting. Put a piece of masking tape over the front of your lens and aim at something. If you can’t see the target, you aren’t target you aren’t shooting target focused. You should see the dot on target regardless if the tape is there. You cannot shoot dots and holos effectively with one eye closed
@@Budget_operator homie you have 30 followers all psa stuff, and olights. humble yourself lmao, if you think 250 is expensive you're mistaken or you don't shoot further than 300 yards lol and don't understand why clairity, eyebox and durability is important lmao. humble yourself lmao. shit you probably don't even realize why having a magnifier infront of the optic is a horrible idea that hasn't been tested beyond maybe 20 yards.
Way too many companies make optics with the most convoluted, horrendous reticles I’ve ever seen. I just want a dot. I don’t need lines and ticks scattered within my sight picture.
I like the holosun ones where you have a dot and a circle around it for close up stuff or can turn off the circle to just have the single dot for long range.
You definitely CAN magnify a 1x prism from Behind. You just have to match the focus on the prism and the magnifier (it works up to a 3x magnifier). Just get the 1x looking good with the diopter, then adjust the magnifier accordingly. Done this with several magnifiers and primary arms 1x micro prisms
To expand on @@nijoe70 comment about the resultant first focal plane scope from magnifying in front of a prism scope, the reticle and BDC etchings get bigger at the same magnification as the image, so the ballistics still work. Holds for 300 and 400yds still… um… hold.
@@JeremyElliott My point exactly. I have a Vector 1x prism in front of Holosun 3x magnifier. It works well enough, I just wish there was a 1xprism with BDC, as far as I know, only Swampfox Raider has something of the sort.
@@auggiedabandit what I did was zoom out the focus on both to the maximum and then first adjust my prism apone to a clear picture and no more. Then you do the same with the magnifier while it is cowitnessing the prism and fine tune more focus in until you have a clear picture. You will have to adjust the windage and elevation on the magnifier to perfectly alig the prism reticle. Keep in mind I have not been able to get the 3x clear up to 10 yd in this configuration but you're not going to be using the 3x magnifier within that range anyway. Hope this helps out brother!
I love making jams. Conveniently placed right over your ejection port, also real easy for your left hand to get to. 😂 you sure you did order one for a wrong handed rifle???
@@hammychez9792😂yeaa ok Meanwhile I dropped mine down a mountain face in vegas picked up my aero and continued shooting mountain top to mountain top 😅 Glass is actually one of the clearest I've shot thru and mills is true to distance 😅 I'm on my 2 lvpo 😅 Maybe try and research stuff yourself rather then letting people tell you what flavor of ice cream not to try
@@lofton9959 if your guns stay in the safe, I'd agree, but none of this airsoft grade stuff has any place on a gun your trusting your life and the lives of loved ones to.
This guy knows. Unless you have eye problems EOTECH is the best solution overall. Unless for some reason you think having to replace a $5 battery more than once a year is a problem. There is literally nothing going on directly in-between the eye side and front side windows, the entire optical train is above or below it except for the reticle hologram which is completely transparent and sealed in the eye side window.
No no it’s much more like a red dot / magnifier, but instead of an LED bouncing off mirrors for Your reticle, you have an etched reticle that can either stay pitch black (good for lots of scenarios in bright daylight) or illuminate red, and the primary arms cyclops gen 2 , aka the slx 1x microprism, gets red dot bright, but with a consistency due to nature of the illumination such that the same brightness that works in the daytime / against white walls with bright white light, also works in low light / complete darkness. It’s really and impressive thing, if the elcan didn’t exist I would consider running one permanently
The biggest downside is that you can't place the prism all the way forward on your upper receiver. The red dot has the advantage in that. Especially if you have to put the magnifier in front of the optic, you definitely cannot take advantage of scooting the red dot further towards the front. Main reason that's important is field of vision. The more forward your optic, the more field of vision you can see around your optic.
how does that make sense ? a 2 piece combo for a crappy 1x with eyebox/eye relief and a 2x mag ? lmao I'll keep my 510c and vortex 6x magnifier thank you
Agreed. 2x isn't enough of an improvement over 1x to bother with a magnifier. I can't think of a single application where 1x wasn't good enough, but 2x solved the problem. Usually need 4x if I can't manage with 1x.
Hes talking about eye relief, if he doesnt even have space to put on on the back of the rail. If he moved the prism more forward for a magnifier to fit then his sight picture would be terrible
It’s easy to shoot inside of 50 yards with a 3x Prism. Especially if you zero for 50/200 putting a magnifier on is dumb. In my unprofessional opinion it would be more efficient to run a magnified prism with a red dot. Or better still a 1-6x LPVO. It would weight the same as that silly set up
I feel like your magnifier is way too close to your optic. I have the Ghost and the Marksman and I believe they say it needs a 1/2” clearance between. But if it works- whatever 😂
I dont need this though, I dont have any reason as to why owning a gun, I live in a safe area, the most dangerous thing is my crazy neighbour and some burglars a few months/ a year ago that stole gas from cars. So why is youtube recommending this? Like, I already knew magnifiers existed
For anyone that’s wondering, EOTEC’s optics are supposed to look blurry. The reason being is so you can see your target through the optic. Also if you get a magnifier it basically takes away the blur. Just a standard infantry cat here but EOTECH has been in use with the military for a long time and is truly battle tested and proven. EOTECH, please sponsor me so I can buy more of your products lol.
Prism won’t flare if you have astigmatism, that all I run is etched prism scopes. For that reason. A red dot becomes a giant blur for me.
I noticed this the other day when looking through my eotech holographic. I was like why does it look like that. Then I put my glasses on😂
Oh WORD?!
You just don’t know how to properly shoot a red dot and aren’t being target focused. I wear prescription glasses for astigmatism and shoot red dots without glasses with zero issues
@@kyleling1909 it’s not a red dot it’s a holographic. The mechanisms are two different things. Try it on a holographic and lmk if you can see it clearly without your glasses.
@@edwardvasquez7640different operating method but exact same concept. You aren’t supposed to look at the dot/reticle when shooting. Put a piece of masking tape over the front of your lens and aim at something. If you can’t see the target, you aren’t target you aren’t shooting target focused. You should see the dot on target regardless if the tape is there. You cannot shoot dots and holos effectively with one eye closed
OR you just run a 3X micro prism from Primary Arms and call it a day. 😎
I got a 5x cyborg from monstrum and it works amazing.
Yep, and the primary arms, micro-prism won't break whenever you trip and drop your rifle in the creek.
Yup they rock
Does a 1x with a 2x magnifier make a 3x or a 2x
@@sagenbabin8786 it makes it a 3x, you might as well just get a 3x-5x prism and save weight.
Primary Arms Microprism with a 3x magnifier BEHIND it works. Don't cheap out with airsoft optics
Couldn't agree more. They are made in China but PA optics have a much better track record of reliability
Well looks like we found the gear queers 👏🏾
@@Budget_operator homie you have 30 followers all psa stuff, and olights. humble yourself lmao, if you think 250 is expensive you're mistaken or you don't shoot further than 300 yards lol and don't understand why clairity, eyebox and durability is important lmao. humble yourself lmao.
shit you probably don't even realize why having a magnifier infront of the optic is a horrible idea that hasn't been tested beyond maybe 20 yards.
@@Budget_operatorqueer isn’t an insult anymore, grandpa
@@vmpere2637 Of course it is, nobody wants to be queer after all
Way too many companies make optics with the most convoluted, horrendous reticles I’ve ever seen. I just want a dot. I don’t need lines and ticks scattered within my sight picture.
I like the holosun ones where you have a dot and a circle around it for close up stuff or can turn off the circle to just have the single dot for long range.
Kinda sounds like you have astigmatism. All those UI elements on the reticles would make the sight convoluted and blurry.
You're saying a Holosun/Eotech circle dot is convoluted and cluttered?
Ahhh monstrum… the brand you buy when you thought you were done dropping triple and quad 0s for parts…
In my opinion, 2x isn't worth the extra weight of adding a magnifier. If you're going to add that Wright and bulk, it should be 3x or 4x
I have a 4x prism with 2x magnifier from monstrum and I'm really impressed
@@danielsnell6349 I should have specified that a 2x wouldn't be worth it for a 1x optic
Unclear why you’d run a prism/magnifier and not just use an Lpvo…
@PitPwny originally bought the prism as a poor man's acog. Then figured why not get the magnifier to add some reach
@@danielsnell6349 fair enough.
This guy said. Monstrum tactical
Yeah it's the same as Primary Arms...😅
You definitely CAN magnify a 1x prism from
Behind. You just have to match the focus on the prism and the magnifier (it works up to a 3x magnifier). Just get the 1x looking good with the diopter, then adjust the magnifier accordingly. Done this with several magnifiers and primary arms 1x micro prisms
The problem with this is it magnifies the reticle since it’s etched making it larger than if the magnifying is in front .
@@MiamiMidwest So, you basically have a 1-3x ffp scope, then.
To expand on @@nijoe70 comment about the resultant first focal plane scope from magnifying in front of a prism scope, the reticle and BDC etchings get bigger at the same magnification as the image, so the ballistics still work. Holds for 300 and 400yds still… um… hold.
@@JeremyElliott My point exactly. I have a Vector 1x prism in front of Holosun 3x magnifier. It works well enough, I just wish there was a 1xprism with BDC, as far as I know, only Swampfox Raider has something of the sort.
I have Vortex Spitfire Prism with Vortex 6x behind it. Works perfect. :)
please just get a primary arms micro prism instead.
If you are new to firearms go find a new channel. Dont fall for this
Or you just run a Holosun 3x magnifier behind your 510c. Works great.
That's the set up I have. It does work great.
You lost me at “Monstrum”
You can run a magnifier with a 1x prism with some particular tuning. I run a 1X primary arms prism and a 3x magnifier for primary arms
Thank you. I try telling this to people all the time, and they ask how can I be sure …. BECAUSE IVE DONE IT. lol. A magnifier is just a fixed prism
A fixed *magnification* prism with no reticle.
please explain more
@@victordogemancan you explain how please?
@@auggiedabandit what I did was zoom out the focus on both to the maximum and then first adjust my prism apone to a clear picture and no more. Then you do the same with the magnifier while it is cowitnessing the prism and fine tune more focus in until you have a clear picture. You will have to adjust the windage and elevation on the magnifier to perfectly alig the prism reticle. Keep in mind I have not been able to get the 3x clear up to 10 yd in this configuration but you're not going to be using the 3x magnifier within that range anyway. Hope this helps out brother!
I love making jams. Conveniently placed right over your ejection port, also real easy for your left hand to get to. 😂 you sure you did order one for a wrong handed rifle???
Monstrum are airsoft optics.
Majority of "tactical" youtubers are just shills lol
😂😂since when cause they not over priced
@@kjay8125 i mean if youre just mag dumping into trash they work fine, they're not good quality, bad glass, light transmission, not durable etc
@@hammychez9792😂yeaa ok
Meanwhile I dropped mine down a mountain face in vegas picked up my aero and continued shooting mountain top to mountain top 😅
Glass is actually one of the clearest I've shot thru and mills is true to distance 😅 I'm on my 2 lvpo 😅
Maybe try and research stuff yourself rather then letting people tell you what flavor of ice cream not to try
@@kjay8125 i literally have some of their optics lmfao, im comparing it to other budget options too
Monstrum tactical aka Airsoft garbage
Nah they have solid products
@@lofton9959that is incorrect sir. I wouldn’t use them on an airsoft gun even
@@gage-moneywhy you say that? Bad experience?
@@ghilliemanreviewsstripped screws, mount snapping, shit glass (all within 10 minutes of a friends optic)
@@lofton9959 if your guns stay in the safe, I'd agree, but none of this airsoft grade stuff has any place on a gun your trusting your life and the lives of loved ones to.
2X is pointless
3x on top
True, 3x actually makes sense or just get a 1-6 or 1-8.
Ikr why carry and extra lb of scope on your gun for 2x magnification 😂
Steyr were ahead of the curve in 1977 with their integral 1.5x scope. They solved all of this nearly half a century ago. Catch up.
Modern Warfare 3 . The First Generation if u know what i mean…. This guy lives in the past
Canted Red Dot Sights on RSASS. How old is that game :(
Monstrum is also very budget friendly ☺️
So they suck is what you’re saying?
@@calebhammonds6338thats not what budget means dipshit
Dropped mine so many times to test it and it runs flawlessly, dont get stuck in popular name brands that’ll run you $300+ just for the name.
@@calebhammonds6338don’t listen to them they suck…
Holosun optic, monstrum magnifier.
I'll be sticking with Eotech products. Ppl always try to reinvent the wheel and it always comes out a square.
This guy knows. Unless you have eye problems EOTECH is the best solution overall. Unless for some reason you think having to replace a $5 battery more than once a year is a problem. There is literally nothing going on directly in-between the eye side and front side windows, the entire optical train is above or below it except for the reticle hologram which is completely transparent and sealed in the eye side window.
Dead on accurate! Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and repent of your sins :)
Ill do all that with iron sites
I prefer prism. Much clearer and you’ll always have a reticle, battery or no battery
Magnifiers do work behind magnified optics, you just have to get the spacing right. It will look weird though.
Monstrum anything is a joke do not waste your money
Sweet!! Thanks for showing us….. wait? Lol 😂🤷♂️
So basically an LVPO
This is exactly what I was gonna say😂
But with few extra steps.
No no it’s much more like a red dot / magnifier, but instead of an LED bouncing off mirrors for
Your reticle, you have an etched reticle that can either stay pitch black (good for lots of scenarios in bright daylight) or illuminate red, and the primary arms cyclops gen 2 , aka the slx 1x microprism, gets red dot bright, but with a consistency due to nature of the illumination such that the same brightness that works in the daytime / against white walls with bright white light, also works in low light / complete darkness. It’s really and impressive thing, if the elcan didn’t exist I would consider running one permanently
2x isn’t doing anything for you
With much more durability.
The biggest downside is that you can't place the prism all the way forward on your upper receiver. The red dot has the advantage in that. Especially if you have to put the magnifier in front of the optic, you definitely cannot take advantage of scooting the red dot further towards the front. Main reason that's important is field of vision. The more forward your optic, the more field of vision you can see around your optic.
how does that make sense ? a 2 piece combo for a crappy 1x with eyebox/eye relief and a 2x mag ? lmao I'll keep my 510c and vortex 6x magnifier thank you
Agreed. 2x isn't enough of an improvement over 1x to bother with a magnifier. I can't think of a single application where 1x wasn't good enough, but 2x solved the problem. Usually need 4x if I can't manage with 1x.
Sounds like the red dot is best
So that's above the chamber, will that cause ejecting rounds to possibly jam the gun?
Lpvo crushes all
Little fast for the newb. Red dot looked more manageable, other looked more pia.
Scope: look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power
Lol 2x ain't worth it
I've been reviewing the ghost post optic magnifier for a while now, I have a new 6x ruckus prism on its way now for review
This guy really just said that Monstrum and Holosun are "innovative". Lmao, what a clown.
We’re just making spicy magnifying glasses 😭 (the optic is awesome btw)
Andrew Santino dropping facts
You can run a normal magnifier behind any 1x prism lol good gun slop
Hes talking about eye relief, if he doesnt even have space to put on on the back of the rail. If he moved the prism more forward for a magnifier to fit then his sight picture would be terrible
I guess if u dont mind the sight picture it wont matter🤷♂️
I run a magnifier behind a prism. Works perfectly. Just need a diopter.
Putting optics ontop of removable carry handles is fucking cringy.
this is not only false but just... stupid... wha... i feel stupider now, am i more autistic now?
I'm a Vortex guy...but I genuinely love my Holosun 510c.
This is dumb ash, all that parallax and dicking around for a sight picture for 2x…. Bro 2x is hardly any different from unmagnified
Solid informative video, what type of rifle is that?
Red dot in front of Ghost, cos I ain't no sniper😂
It’s easy to shoot inside of 50 yards with a 3x Prism. Especially if you zero for 50/200 putting a magnifier on is dumb. In my unprofessional opinion it would be more efficient to run a magnified prism with a red dot. Or better still a 1-6x LPVO. It would weight the same as that silly set up
Isn't monstrum really cheap Chinese trash? Last monstrum optic i saw was pretty bad.
I feel like your magnifier is way too close to your optic. I have the Ghost and the Marksman and I believe they say it needs a 1/2” clearance between. But if it works- whatever 😂
I just fire more bullets instead of aiming. That way I don't need any sights at all. (Sarcasm for the simple.)
Lol, Monstrum?
I'll stick with my SLX from Primary Arms.
It was probably if not almost certainly a thing before-but that’s literally the black ops 2 hybrid sight, just with a better form factor.
Sick
Monstrum isn’t what I would call a quality manufacturer of optics
I dont need this though, I dont have any reason as to why owning a gun, I live in a safe area, the most dangerous thing is my crazy neighbour and some burglars a few months/ a year ago that stole gas from cars.
So why is youtube recommending this? Like, I already knew magnifiers existed
I use this 2x magnifier in front of my lpvo, giving it 12x magnification, and it works great.
To say the words Monstrom and solved the same sentence…smh. Quit peddling this amazon garbage
For anyone that’s wondering, EOTEC’s optics are supposed to look blurry. The reason being is so you can see your target through the optic. Also if you get a magnifier it basically takes away the blur. Just a standard infantry cat here but EOTECH has been in use with the military for a long time and is truly battle tested and proven.
EOTECH, please sponsor me so I can buy more of your products lol.
Oh, thank God they made a 2x magnifier for the 1x prism optic. I'm glad I can finally see that extra 30 feet 💀
I have a terrible astigmatism and most magnifiers I’ve used actually make the dot a fine little point instead of a starburst
Lmao Im still baffled as to how this dude makes content 😂 and who lets him literally constantly speaks nonsense
Bruh it’s supposed to go infront it of it? And I thought my monstrum was just shit cuz it’s cheap
I emailed vortex to see if they could make a long eye relief 5x micro prism for bolt actions. No reply
I have a prism with an etched sight. So if my battery dies, I still have a black dot to aid.
Not a big fan of red dot. I love holographic but prism intrigues me now 🤔
*Firearm World: Just slap “TACTICAL” on everything.*
If only there was some kind of variable optic that was low power.
monstrum glass is perfectly paired on a rifle with white furniture.
Monstrum or however you spell it that’s some Amazon shii right there
All this just to get killed by a 70 year old with iron sights, or a 22 year old with an airsoft red dot
I'm wondering if this is an airsoft gun or a real gun? Can't tell the difference.
Get literally any other optic like a Lpvo and you don’t have any of the nonsense bs in your way
How do I stop UA-cam from showing me this guys crap
Uh oh, dude mentions "budget" brand. . I can smell the hate comments
Why do yall white guys gotta talk so fast when it’s not even a timer 😅. I guess to make them sound like they know 😂
2X is cool but I would like 4x really. If they do that it's a win.
What is it with every low brow shill hawking this exact setup this week?
Garbage glass. Spend that money on ammo
Or just don't buy cheap shitty optics
People will do anything except buy an LPVO.
Because it’s too heavy and expensive for some.
Because you don’t need it 🤷🏾♂️
just sell 2 of the 6 anderson lower builds you have and get an elcan
Just run irons and make your eyes zoom in lol
Still feels weird having a magnifier in front of the optic.
so it's kinda like an inverted VCOG without the V?
Still prefer my Eotech Holo and Magnifier
Notice how he isn’t showing down the sight with the magnifier..
Or buy an already magnified prism optic
Thats a reflex vs prism, wheres a standard red-dot?
I have a monstrum but the battery compartment is messed up
Just get the PA slx 1x. Same eye relief as a red dot.
“Radder than”
My soviet version acog stil better, never overprice
what sunglasses do you have? 🙇🏻♂️
2x magnifier is practically useless
So it's like an LPVO but worse
А не лучше просто взять загонный прицел? Зачем эти магниферы?
fr fr ong i need an 80x scope
Oh yea because the cheap fuck optics are great
and a 2x sized crosshair? no thanks.