Even as a khabib fan that bothered me, I believe Khabib is the GOAT for reasons other people wouldn't care about. But if you consider just resume alone and that tends to be the biggest thing people consider in this subjective debate, GSP is at least number 2 and Jones would be number 1.
Losing to John Jones has got to be one of the worst feelings ever. Because when you fight him, your at your best, and he'll smash you with ease at his worst.
Totally disagree about this vid. Even though I like the guy because he's trying to do good. His legacy will always be tarnished with cheating, dirty tactics and behaviour outside of the ring. You can never be goat with those hanging over you. FACTS 👍
I used to spar with Anthony Pettis way back in the day before he was even close to good. I quit following ufc for a while and saw him in there like wtf is he doing there!!! I'm not hating amd good for him but I actually didn't like him then and don't like him now. What is mighty like?
I love when he talks about Cormier… i used to eat dinner with Daniel all the time at the athletes dorm at Oklahoma St. Daniel came to a lot of my baseball games and gladly gave up his extra meal credits since he was always cutting weight lol! Great guy and he ended up being even more famous and he was already on top of his sport in College
I was a huge Jon Jones fan for years before I heard about DC leading up to his move to UFC. Now I'm a bigger fan of DC than Jon overall. DC is the coolest guy with a big heart. And one of the best ever
Tell the truth, you bullied DC and stole his lunch, daily. You knew exactly what you were doing when you came from LA. Poor Daniel didn’t stand a chance. 😢
Alright alright I believed everything you were saying until the part about him giving up his meal credits. Try to do a little more research on DC before you make up stories 😉
The only opponent to beat Jon was Jon. Joe summed it up He's a bad guy trying to be a good guy. Jon's physicality, skills and mindset can't be debated he has to kill his demons
@@jayjacob6855Joe Rogan does his own thing dumb a**. The man owns the biggest podcast in the world. He’s saying what we all know. Jon is the greatest fighter ever. Not George. I know you hate it but it is what it is. Gsp isn’t the goat. Get over it.
I think what the guest was trying to highlight, was the fact that he might have came off as the villain because of the PR around him being the champ. I know of the allegations of PEDs and all that, but Jones has been busted more than Usman so I'd imagine its just rumours more than anything.
I thought Jon Jones was the greatest ever anyway. When you look at who he's beaten and how young he was through a lot of his career it's just insane. He's only really looked troubled in a few fights and his one loss was purely down to a horrific refereeing decision. However, I think the only way he kills the debate is if he beats Stipe. I would also say Ngannou should also have been on his hit-list, but it's not going to happen, which sucks.
He looks different than from his early knockouts he had no fear but now his legs are bad and Jon is known to fuck up legs too so it’s just going to be real hard to over come when someone has something with range that can take u out the game
🤣 🤦♂️ you ever see a turtle on its back all the heavy weights got nothing on the ground why do you think Jon moved up easy fights give him khamzat I bet you that guy would give him a fight but the UFC’s light heavy weight and heavy weight there’s nothing special about any of them they just brawl Jones n dc where the only 2 that wrestled
Jon would dismantle Francis. All you have to do is avoid those bombs from Francis for a couple rounds, then he’ll be out of gas and slow down. Then you can take him to the ground and finish him.
The Jon Jones fight when he choked out Lyoto Machida was the craziest thing I ever saw. I couldn’t believe at the time you could do that to someone standing up. Jones is the goat 🐐
@Max It was a car accident. You're making it seem like he intentionally rammed a pregnant woman. And there is no proof that he beat his wide, he was never convicted.
I wish I have someone in my life like Joe talks about Jon. Well people who wondering if I accomplished something well I am chef, train grappling and volunteer for food bank and soup kitchen.
Demetrius was the true stylebender, Jon inspires fear and violence with his style whereas DJ instills awe and beauty. Jon is more awkward but he's just faced harder competition and always found a way to win
Since DJ ain't here, Jones is the only guy in his prime and beating top contenders in the biggest organisation for the old fans of MMA to this day so he got that nostalgia factor to root for.
I'm not an MMA fan, but I watch all of Jon's fights. He is UNBELIEVABLE. You have to be crazy to step in the ring with him. Stipe better be ready. I think Jon will take him out too. God bless them both. 🙏
Yea, there's all kinds of talk for the years (lol) in between his fights, but sure enough when he steps back in the octagon everyone is quickly reminded how good he actually is
@@jakekunz5168cmon jake what’re you talking about 😂… he said he’s a casual fan while STATING he watched all his fights, therefore never saw him him lose a fight, he got disqualified but beat the shit out of him. Therefore, why in the fuck do you think he assumes someone he sees only win would win again ….. and what the fuck did his comment have to do with Tom Brady ….. use your head kid
@@RNTV yeah remember Jon is the guy that hid under a octagon for hours and pissed in his pants to get away from a USADA drug test. Can’t support a “goat” that failed the most drug tests in the UFC.
@@RNTV the rule change that i believe youre referring to is actually for whats coming with fight pass and bjj the ufc is currently being rivaled by One Championship as its growing larger on a global scale not just an american scale in an attempt to combat Ones growth the ufc is attempting to overtake flograppling as the main host of bjj events which are known notoriously for athletes being on gear but cute little just throw out the first thing that pops into your head take though
Imma be real with you, I watched the fight live wanting Jones to win but I thought there was no way. I knew a knockout/submission would happen but I thought Ciryl would’ve been the one to do it. Broke my expectations in the best way. I thought jones might be washed but turns out I didn’t have faith in the GOAT
@@ireviewdopesht7216 nah he just a goofy villian he tries to do trashtalk but always fails, he footstomps you like a lil b and he has used steroids without beeing busted
Someone educate me, why doesn't Joe ever talk about Randy Couture? not trying to say he deserves GOAT status but what he did at his age was downright amazing. I listen to a lot of Joe Rogan podcasts in my life and I always wondered why I never hear him talk about Randy.
He has talked about him in his old episodes, your gonna have to rewind somewhere around 300-600, I don’t remember which episodes cause it’s a while back.
Joe has his patter about Jones and Silva, and never mentions GSP as the GOAT either. Literally never. To me GSP or Cormier are the clean GOATs, and Jon is undeniably the Dirty GOAT.
I admire Jon’s ability as well as Khabib’s ability and character. Full disclosure, I’m a GSP guy. To me Khabib was truly a welterweight. He missed weight at 55 several times as a pro and he seems to walk around every bit as heavy as GSP. I respect his early retirement. He made a commitment and has stuck to it. I don’t believe he says he is the GOAT but lots of other people do. To me the GOAT should try for gold in another division especially the division he should already be in.
They’ve been saying this for years, Jon is the goat, who is above him? Only ppl u could argue are khabib and gsp, and Jon imo and many others is better, I lit predicted that he would beat gane fairly easily and his entire career has made him the goat not just one fight
@polyseed12 along with Usman,Anderson Silva, GSP, Daniel Cormier, khabib and Stipe lol I mean I get it he's trying to promote the fights a little but come on now
@Silk Sonic 15-0 in title fight And you tell me that jon escaping a fight made by ufc? Stop it just name one fighter in mma who can make 15-0 in title fight i wait
I'm not even a hater but Jon Jones has made a career off of fighting guys that would be at 170lb weight class nowadays whenever he fought someone with a similar frame he struggled and if Gane had an ounce of wrestling that would of been a long day for Jones he looked very stiff and very slow I'm not sure why everyone is just looking past that.
Gsp is the goat...he crushed his only 2 loss, cleaned his division 2 times...retired came back 1 divison higher won the belt. All of that without being suspended for steroids or hitting pregnant woman in cars or multiple other arrrest. He is the ultimate role model!!!
I think Luke is slightly right about Kamaru in the sense that we all loved his reaction when he beat Woodley for the title & he was emotional, celebrating with his daughter.. But over time a lot of fans defintely developed a disdain for him..
What would have settled the GOAT debate was if UFC made Anderson Silva fought both GSP (GSP wasn't willing to move up in weight to fight Anderson) and Jon Jones right after Jon finished Machida with that nasty guillotine choke. This would have been a few months after Anderson front kicked Vitor in the face (changed everyone's thinking of the front kick in mma) knocked him out silly then finished Yushin Okami. So it would have been a perfect time. GSP was boring and I feel like you should be able to finish your opponents to be considered p4p.
Jon Jones, DJ and GSP are the only guys who can be in the GOAT convo IMO. Anderson's skillset and resume don't compare to these guys, even Aldo is far superior to Anderson in this regard.
It’s crazy how disrespected Anderson is, he’s the most skilled of them all and has shown the best longevity by a god damn country mile 😂 The real list imo is 1. JJ 2. Fedor 3. Silva 4.GSP 5. MM Then you got the rest of the pack Jose Aldo does not have a better resume than Anderson, Anderson stopping Henderson in 2 rounds is better than almost anything Jose has done just for starters, and Jose was one of my heroes.
No one is moving UP weight classes and not getting mauled to death by bones. Esp at that time, that was his prime. On top of being ridiculously skilled he was a really big 205'er. Love silva & would not of wanted to watch that. Would've ended with Jon on top of him reigning down the most cringe inducing sharp elbows ever.
@@silkyjohnson3785 First off that wasnt Anderson. That was Johnny Hendricks and GSP trying to force him to do both USADA and VADA testing. GSPs excuse was always "if I fight at 185 pounds it'll be permanent so I'm not ready to fight there yet". When asked about Anderson Silva. You also are acting like GSP was a clean fighter which he could have easily not been when drug testing was a joke in that era.
It's a real shame we never got to see Jones vs Johnson. It seemed like they were heading towards a collision, but it never happened. Now it never will.
@@xensonar9652 what? Is Jones fighting Brendan Schaub next? SHIT….so much for being undefeated. Oh well it was fun while it lasted but there’s always someone tougher.
It's true that Khabib is one of the if not the most dominant ever, but it is not true that he is one of the greatest! Why? Because of his lack of resumè!
What made him so great is he never took any noticeable damage. He always came out looking like he went in and doing it in the best division in the UFC.
@Gerald Tone move the goalposts. If goalposts is metaphorical for the apponents Jon faced, then yes, they will probably find another apponent. If you're implying he gets favors/special treatment, I have some tissue for your bitch tears!
I do get what you are saying, jon and mike have a viciousness about their opponents, where you feel like they genuinely want to hurt them, and GSP is more of a sport-s mentality kind of person. I would argue that when the cage door closes they have a more similar mindset then outside of the cage preparing mentally for a fight. You better believe GSP wants to hurt you when he "switches it on" before a fight, and neither jon or mike want you to die in the ring so they are similar in that way too.
@@kichmadev Thats why GSP is a straight up T1000. If he ever moved up to fight someone like Jon, he'd definitely give him a challenge he'll never forget.
I like Joe's confidence. With the same confidence he said Ronda would whoop her male counterparts and that she would beat up Floyd. His confidence is admirable though.
Jon had better comp and GSP was in pre usada era beating guys on juice just like Jon was. If you beat a trained fighter on roids, chances are, you are on roids too. There is no goat of mma if everyone is on something.
@@themadman6667 - give me a break , GSP offered not only to pay for private testing for himself but also for Hendricks , comparing doping to bringing a knife into the ring . Hendricks' career went into the gutter after usada , but GSP came back to crush Bisping . Some people have always done it right and obviously some people are still gaming .
@@themadman6667 GSP was the guy asking for USADA and not getting it and volunteering for it before UFC brought them in. He was a natural competing among cheats.
I really don't understand why people are treating this last fight as such a huge deal. I had no doubt in my mind Jones stomps out Gane. I don't even have any issues with Gane, I think he's good, I think he's even better than good, hes a great fighter especially for the movement he's got at heavyweight. All that being said , Jones is such a wild card, he's not that old as some people are saying, and him moving up to heavy only meant one thing to me. More power, more weight to throw around, on that same agile and unorthodox frame of movement
Jon has fought the baddest men that fought in the ufc - same with Mighty Mouse baby goat. Well said Joe! These people needs to watch jon jones greatest hits
Still would love to see that Francis vs Jones fight to really settle, I don't think Jones would be able to do the same thing to Francis who's wrestling has only gotten better as we've seen against Stipe.
@Jaden They certainly always move the goal post. There are multiple 250 pound athletes that couldn't stop gane. Jon does it in 2 minutes, and now gane was an "easy" opponent. If it was easy it was because jon made it easy.
My guy, if you wanna argue against his goat status based on ped use.. we can argue that.. but that's the only legitimate argument against Jon Jones being the Greatest fighter to ever live.. It may have even been arguable before Gane , but in my opinion, even then he had it.. Ciryl gane was touted as the future.. the new age heavyweight. Supposed to be the worst matchup for Jon outside Francis.. at least half the community had ciryl winning.. then Jon ran through him and all of a sudden it's not Jon is great. It's Gane isn't great.. You guys blow me with that. I do respect your take on stipe. I always stipe is Jon's toughest fight at heavyweight. Assuming stipe is healthy and in his prime still.... But when Jon beat Cyril Gane, a highly touted, futuristic heavyweight that held an interim title and went five close rounds with the most dangerous puncher in MMA, that clinched the greatest argument for me. Even if stipe flatlines Jon Jones, Jon will still be the overall goat of the sport.. if stipe beats Jon he will be the greatest heavyweight to ever live.. but for overall p4p the only logical choice is Jon Jones unless you wanna argue failed drug test.
@@HeroicEvil13 I agree; Jones is one of a kind fighter. But that fight was a pretty easy fight for a fighter of his caliber and experience. The Goat should go against the best otherwise it's just child's play.
Jon Jones whoops everyone in human history in a 1 on 1 hand to hand fight to the death. Those gladiators and vikings had no knowledge on MMA (the most effective fight technique by a huge margin) and today's MMA fighters are nowhere near as smart as Jon.
Umm NO. There's a weight class for a reason. Some of them Vikings would make Jones look like a midget. Maybe make your point without being so hyperbolic.
@@peptalk7658 you think the Vikings running around 1000 years ago were pushing 250+ lbs with no knowledge of nutrition and less readily available food? interesting take. Not to mention that the average viking was 2-3 inches shorter than the average male nowadays....
Absolutely not. There has been over 100 billion people in history. Theres easily over 1,000 people throughout history that would absolutely ragdoll Jon. Monsters in every sense of the word.
@@jonv1776 come on man, Jon did look all little awkward.. the thing is Jon being awkward and covered in ring rust is still likely the greatest fighter to ever live..
The fact Khabib was mentioned but not GSP is heartbreaking
bro thinks coming back and fighting career speed bump ciryl gane makes him the goat
Even as a khabib fan that bothered me, I believe Khabib is the GOAT for reasons other people wouldn't care about. But if you consider just resume alone and that tends to be the biggest thing people consider in this subjective debate, GSP is at least number 2 and Jones would be number 1.
@@nickweber1388 Jon would kill khabib and gsp
GSP is the king
@@alihassoun101 Khabib 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe needs to get Jon back on the podcast ASAP
True
No
And do some coke
@@mikemichaels2914 and still be the goat 😂
Yes
Losing to John Jones has got to be one of the worst feelings ever. Because when you fight him, your at your best, and he'll smash you with ease at his worst.
What about Jon Jones
Totally disagree about this vid. Even though I like the guy because he's trying to do good. His legacy will always be tarnished with cheating, dirty tactics and behaviour outside of the ring. You can never be goat with those hanging over you. FACTS 👍
@@rayromano6249 weird. Because 90% of MMA fans and pretty much every fighter has said he’s the GOAT.
@@rayromano6249 for you yes
@@usa5439 Even worse😂
You can tell Luke's a casual. He's talking about the greatest UFC fighter of all time, and he didn't mention GSP or Brendan Schaub.
Brendan schaub?
@@m.a.z4329 he was being sarastic
Or CM Punk !!!
@@m.a.z4329 dont vote
@@GreenGenerationTV lol
Joe Rogan describing Jon as a Psychopathic Berserker is equal parts hilarious and awesome
Let's be realistic here Jon Jones is the greatest athlete who use steroids MMA. Greatest of all-time steroid user not the greatest of all time
@@Bringmeoneofthosechickens learn english before you hate on the🐐
Cry
@@alculzar man get off Jon Jones nuts dude it's kinda weird
@@Bringmeoneofthosechickens hes definitely the goat. What he got "popped" for wouldn't even be a violation today. Keep crying
I went to high school with Mighty Mouse. Dude is an absolute animal. Watched every one of his UFC fights. Glad to hear he is so high on your list Joe!
Stop lying. You went to GED school with Brendan Schaub
I used to spar with Anthony Pettis way back in the day before he was even close to good. I quit following ufc for a while and saw him in there like wtf is he doing there!!! I'm not hating amd good for him but I actually didn't like him then and don't like him now. What is mighty like?
@@pedrokoto hardly a difference anymore tbh lmao
@@brandondrew4914 i was the coach and i agree
Washington patriots baby 253
I love when he talks about Cormier… i used to eat dinner with Daniel all the time at the athletes dorm at Oklahoma St. Daniel came to a lot of my baseball games and gladly gave up his extra meal credits since he was always cutting weight lol! Great guy and he ended up being even more famous and he was already on top of his sport in College
I was a huge Jon Jones fan for years before I heard about DC leading up to his move to UFC. Now I'm a bigger fan of DC than Jon overall. DC is the coolest guy with a big heart. And one of the best ever
Tell the truth, you bullied DC and stole his lunch, daily.
You knew exactly what you were doing when you came from LA.
Poor Daniel didn’t stand a chance. 😢
Alright alright I believed everything you were saying until the part about him giving up his meal credits. Try to do a little more research on DC before you make up stories 😉
People are gullible morons
That’s an awesome story your lucky to have known one of the greats!!!
Joe is such a gifted orator. His ability to describe people, concepts and things on the spot is incredible.
He truly is.
ur mom is a gifted orator
@@Brahski_Bro she is actually. U may want to google the definition. Or go to college. 🤷🏽♂️
I very much concur.
Shut up
Didn't Khabib's Dad sort of say Jon Is the GOAT without saying. He said he had God given abilities
Jones is goat in khabib's list as well
The only opponent to beat Jon was Jon. Joe summed it up He's a bad guy trying to be a good guy. Jon's physicality, skills and mindset can't be debated he has to kill his demons
as he said that, I went fuck yeah that is absolutely precise describsion of Jon, everything he said was spot on and deep
Trying to be a good guy? When like while cameras are rolling and he lies? Cuz when cameras aren't rolling he's human garbage
I want to know what percentage of UFC fighters are on PEDs, because if it’s as high as I suspect there’s no debate. Jones is the best ever
He is a great fighter but a terrible human. Domestic violence, DUIs, drug possession charges, popped for using PEDs.
Steroids!!!
This is a love letter to Jon Jones' legacy.
As it should be
Really surprising that a company guy declares the guy who is still in the company as the goat:)
@@jayjacob6855Joe Rogan does his own thing dumb a**. The man owns the biggest podcast in the world. He’s saying what we all know. Jon is the greatest fighter ever. Not George. I know you hate it but it is what it is. Gsp isn’t the goat. Get over it.
The legacy of his cycle, maybe.
@@jayjacob6855 well Jon is the goat lmao
The fact Khabib and DJ we’re mentioned in the GOAT conversation but not CM Punk or Artem Lobov is criminal…
So ur just gonna forget about dillon danis?
Usman was 100% a villain at one point for a lot of people
I think what the guest was trying to highlight, was the fact that he might have came off as the villain because of the PR around him being the champ. I know of the allegations of PEDs and all that, but Jones has been busted more than Usman so I'd imagine its just rumours more than anything.
Hes a good dude who's unfairly hated on for no real reason
@@daebak7370 it’s because the online mma fan base is filled with angry white nerds
Just sending a message to the competition to fear him
Villain isn’t the word - Usman was disliked (for no good reason). UFC fans are known for being fickle assh*oles.
jon should be on jre again
I thought Jon Jones was the greatest ever anyway. When you look at who he's beaten and how young he was through a lot of his career it's just insane. He's only really looked troubled in a few fights and his one loss was purely down to a horrific refereeing decision.
However, I think the only way he kills the debate is if he beats Stipe. I would also say Ngannou should also have been on his hit-list, but it's not going to happen, which sucks.
We all want Bones and Francis. Excellence vs one Nuclear shot that ends the fight.
😊
He looks different than from his early knockouts he had no fear but now his legs are bad and Jon is known to fuck up legs too so it’s just going to be real hard to over come when someone has something with range that can take u out the game
Francis will never fight again…if he does he was be washed and lose.
🤣 🤦♂️ you ever see a turtle on its back all the heavy weights got nothing on the ground why do you think Jon moved up easy fights give him khamzat I bet you that guy would give him a fight but the UFC’s light heavy weight and heavy weight there’s nothing special about any of them they just brawl Jones n dc where the only 2 that wrestled
Jon would dismantle Francis. All you have to do is avoid those bombs from Francis for a couple rounds, then he’ll be out of gas and slow down. Then you can take him to the ground and finish him.
The Jon Jones fight when he choked out Lyoto Machida was the craziest thing I ever saw. I couldn’t believe at the time you could do that to someone standing up. Jones is the goat 🐐
The way he threw him down was disrespectful
@@lakeconroehouse to me he dropped him, not threw him.
most badass submission i've ever seen
That submission was cold blooded
Lyoto had skills but all things even Jon dwarfed him in physical attributes. Shogun beat Lyoto with 2 bum knees. That is how steroids help you btw.
saying jones is hated because of his greatness is so dumb. He beat up his wife in front of his kids ffs.
People have been hating him way before that.
Yea lotta people just want to forget about that
@@geraldtone5914 yes, maybe because of crashing his car into a pregnant women and then running away.
@@MaxMW1 😂 it's almost unbelievable
@Max It was a car accident. You're making it seem like he intentionally rammed a pregnant woman. And there is no proof that he beat his wide, he was never convicted.
I wish I have someone in my life like Joe talks about Jon.
Well people who wondering if I accomplished something well I am chef, train grappling and volunteer for food bank and soup kitchen.
he doesnt wanna get on his bad side 😂
Then go accomplish something.. obviously you haven't been using your time here the same as him ...
Dedicate yourself at something with the depth jon Jones has. And you will
This dude making a joke but his english isn't perfect and yall freaking out about his life choices. lmao
Wasn't real a fight was it ? Gane shit his pants and took a tap
This is on par with when Joe was describing Brock Lesnar as a Viking enslaving people thousands of years ago I love it
Lesnar should've gone to the MMA route instead of WWE, he would've been one of the goats imo.
DJ is still the greatest mixed martial artist I've ever seen.
Shut your mouth if I want your opinion I'll give it to you
Demetrius was the true stylebender, Jon inspires fear and violence with his style whereas DJ instills awe and beauty. Jon is more awkward but he's just faced harder competition and always found a way to win
Since DJ ain't here, Jones is the only guy in his prime and beating top contenders in the biggest organisation for the old fans of MMA to this day so he got that nostalgia factor to root for.
He was the truth. And everone knows it.
DJ never popped hot btw so it’s a no brainer
I'm not an MMA fan, but I watch all of Jon's fights. He is UNBELIEVABLE. You have to be crazy to step in the ring with him. Stipe better be ready. I think Jon will take him out too. God bless them both. 🙏
so i’m guessing you were also like a Tom Brady fan too 🙄 Imagine talking trash when you admit you don’t watch anyone else.
Yea, there's all kinds of talk for the years (lol) in between his fights, but sure enough when he steps back in the octagon everyone is quickly reminded how good he actually is
@@jakekunz5168 Stipe's getting choked out too
@@jakekunz5168 Who cares, man. It’s ok to be a casual fan, don’t be a gatekeeper
@@jakekunz5168cmon jake what’re you talking about 😂… he said he’s a casual fan while STATING he watched all his fights, therefore never saw him him lose a fight, he got disqualified but beat the shit out of him. Therefore, why in the fuck do you think he assumes someone he sees only win would win again ….. and what the fuck did his comment have to do with Tom Brady ….. use your head kid
I’ve never been the biggest Jon jones fan but he is undeniably the goat.
Dc could’ve beaten Cyril 2 weeks ago
GSP Still has a better Resume
@@RNTV yeah remember Jon is the guy that hid under a octagon for hours and pissed in his pants to get away from a USADA drug test. Can’t support a “goat” that failed the most drug tests in the UFC.
@@frosty2.010 No lol
@@RNTV the rule change that i believe youre referring to is actually for whats coming with fight pass and bjj the ufc is currently being rivaled by One Championship as its growing larger on a global scale not just an american scale in an attempt to combat Ones growth the ufc is attempting to overtake flograppling as the main host of bjj events which are known notoriously for athletes being on gear but cute little just throw out the first thing that pops into your head take though
Imma be real with you, I watched the fight live wanting Jones to win but I thought there was no way. I knew a knockout/submission would happen but I thought Ciryl would’ve been the one to do it. Broke my expectations in the best way. I thought jones might be washed but turns out I didn’t have faith in the GOAT
1 heavyweight win ever. He’s getting kod this year.
Interesting, you’re the only person I heard with that take.
@@chitoes1707 he beat the 2nd best heavyweight at the moment and the best is not in the ufc
Reading that you knew a submission would win, but you thought it would be Ciryl, is one of the most casual fan sentences ever written lmao
@@jaingarvit2621 👍 yeah so jones isn’t close to a goat status yet.
I noticed the full video isn't on spotify???
"Even when he was doing coke a week before the fight and not training" lmao Joe loves Jon
He was doing more than coke, I can assure you of that
He was also on Peds
Who cares!? Stop hating! Have you done coke before? It really ain't shit. The media and squares like you guys have no clue!
@@nabilshafec7169 you mean blue meth? lol
I wouldn’t say anything bad about Jon either to be fair
Jon is his prime could beat any human ever in a fight 😭💯🐐
Let’s hope his prime lasts a bit longer.
Apart from Ngannou.
Shaq? Prime Shaq would be too big, fast, and strong for Jones to fight.
@@gagejernigan5277 what? Lol
@@yonchrr John would fuck him up lol anywhere the fight goes jon winnning
Why aren’t these on Spotify???
joe rogan is a necessity to this world, i can listen to this man speak for hours.
Why is this episode STILL not on Spotify? It's been hours.
They do upload on spotify first🤔
Still not on spotify
How does joe not know that everyone hates kamaru and sees him as a villian?😂😂
He's not a villain, just unlikable
He's a villain to casual fans only
@@ireviewdopesht7216 Piss of with that gatekeeping. His personality varies between bland and cringe
@@ireviewdopesht7216 nah he just a goofy villian he tries to do trashtalk but always fails, he footstomps you like a lil b and he has used steroids without beeing busted
@@dangdoe1564 And ...he's...black too right ?
Someone educate me, why doesn't Joe ever talk about Randy Couture? not trying to say he deserves GOAT status but what he did at his age was downright amazing. I listen to a lot of Joe Rogan podcasts in my life and I always wondered why I never hear him talk about Randy.
Dana hates randy couture, so joe probably avoids that topic
Dana pays Joe + Dana hates Randy = joe not talking about Randy
Randy is the true 🐐
He has talked about him in his old episodes, your gonna have to rewind somewhere around 300-600, I don’t remember which episodes cause it’s a while back.
Joe has his patter about Jones and Silva, and never mentions GSP as the GOAT either. Literally never. To me GSP or Cormier are the clean GOATs, and Jon is undeniably the Dirty GOAT.
Feel like I’ve watched every fight Jon was in
It’s undeniable
He is the most complete fighter we have ever seen
For sure and there's only a handful that even come close. And for me that would be volk, gsp, cejudo, Aldo, and anderson.
Yup, eye pokes and knee kicks included! He’s the full package!
@@ghostrecon3834cry harder
@@da-chosan-wan cope harder
@@ghostrecon3834 guy is using tiktoker slang thinking he’s funny lmfao ur the one complaining about jon jones buddy
Much respect to Luke, he's representing the greatest outlaw country artist of all time... Waylon Jennings
I was looking for your comment. Shout to Luke......and shout out to Waylon Jennings
I admire Jon’s ability as well as Khabib’s ability and character. Full disclosure, I’m a GSP guy. To me Khabib was truly a welterweight. He missed weight at 55 several times as a pro and he seems to walk around every bit as heavy as GSP. I respect his early retirement. He made a commitment and has stuck to it. I don’t believe he says he is the GOAT but lots of other people do. To me the GOAT should try for gold in another division especially the division he should already be in.
He missed weight only once check it out
Khabib is the most dominant fighter ever but not the goat. The longevity was not there.
@@FaisalAlhilalii wasn't it twice ?
Trujillo or however you say his name, tony once.
Or twice
khabib also only had like 3 title defenses, cant be anywhere near being the goat if u dont defend that belt like jon and mighty mouse and gsp
GSP fought 80% average fighters. Only a few marquee names rest were pretty ass IMO. And I like GSP.
When is it up on Spotify
Can't wait to listen to the full podcast tomorrow at work
I’ll never forget Jon Jones absolutely destroying Shogun 😳 I think he broke his orbital bone in that fight unless I’m thinking of someone else
Your'e thinking about the Brendan Vera fight.
Why isn’t this one on spotify?
Seems like everybody’s the goat after their last win.
No, just jon.
They’ve been saying this for years, Jon is the goat, who is above him? Only ppl u could argue are khabib and gsp, and Jon imo and many others is better, I lit predicted that he would beat gane fairly easily and his entire career has made him the goat not just one fight
Also when you have more title fights than fights and have never been knocked out
Gsp is a legend and jon Jones has beaten legends again and again from day 1
Nope
Why is this not on Spotify yet??
Michael Jordan of MMA. Someday there could be “Bones” shoes with the icon of him crawling lol
I was thinking clothing too maybe some sportswear but he’ll probably have to do it on his own
More like the LT of mma .
@@Aquamatiic You can't really do sportswear "on your own".
*He's already had his own shoes than fucked up the deal being a shit head.*
Nah his logo would be him throwing a spinning elbow.
Feel like GOAT is thrown around way too much. I've heard Joe call like 9 different fighters the goat
not anymore because now is no doubt jon is the goat no one can deny it
Actually Joe Rogan has consistently called Jon Jones the GOAT for several years now.
@polyseed12 along with Usman,Anderson Silva, GSP, Daniel Cormier, khabib and Stipe lol I mean I get it he's trying to promote the fights a little but come on now
@Silk Sonic 15-0 in title fight And you tell me that jon escaping a fight made by ufc? Stop it just name one fighter in mma who can make 15-0 in title fight i wait
I'm not even a hater but Jon Jones has made a career off of fighting guys that would be at 170lb weight class nowadays whenever he fought someone with a similar frame he struggled and if Gane had an ounce of wrestling that would of been a long day for Jones he looked very stiff and very slow I'm not sure why everyone is just looking past that.
Is there a fight companion stream for the fight this weekend
John Juice never looses
Everybody is on the juice.
I laughed hard af
@@spitfirez89 not me
Jon* Loses*
Luke combs seems like the most down to earth he talks about other celebrities like he isn't one, it's so cool
Why isn't this episode showing up on Spotify?
The resume of Bones speaks for itself. I like Khabib but there is a wide chasm between the two when it comes to the goat discussion
Khabibs father told him Jon is the best
@@stephenacrisius5831 And Khabib ranks Jon Jones #1 on his all time MMA great top 15 list. Tied with Fedor.
Gsp is the goat...he crushed his only 2 loss, cleaned his division 2 times...retired came back 1 divison higher won the belt. All of that without being suspended for steroids or hitting pregnant woman in cars or multiple other arrrest. He is the ultimate role model!!!
Clown 🤣 🤣 🤣
@@ivotenotocensorship5247 next level comment well done!
@@yourilabelle8540 🤡 🤡 LMFAOOOOOOO
Outside the cage has nothing to do with it. Also, do you think GSP wasn't on steroids?😂
@@brueski2249 it has everything to do with it and no. Just trowing falsehood to score some point on this argument just shows you have no points.
Is this on Spotify yet
Damn I thought Joe was going to have to take a break and rub one out after talking about Jon like that lol.
Biggest gripe about UFC is that the term "GOAT" gets dropped way too often to way too many fighters.
Why can't I see this on Spotify?
gane lost his soul in that fight, it was so ridiculous
he's french. they're know to surrender quickly :)
He needs to fight aspinal next or spivak maybe romanov
Jon was already the GOAT before the Gane fight!
Can’t see this on Spotify
I think Luke is slightly right about Kamaru in the sense that we all loved his reaction when he beat Woodley for the title & he was emotional, celebrating with his daughter.. But over time a lot of fans defintely developed a disdain for him..
The khabib hype is by far the most overblown record. Gsp, Silva, and might mouse have all had better championship runs and careers
Anyone else not getting the new episodes on Spotify
Jon jones is the Michael Jordan of mixed martial arts
Some people think kobe is better, some even say Wilt Chamberlin. Nobody says anyone is better than Jones
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What would have settled the GOAT debate was if UFC made Anderson Silva fought both GSP (GSP wasn't willing to move up in weight to fight Anderson) and Jon Jones right after Jon finished Machida with that nasty guillotine choke. This would have been a few months after Anderson front kicked Vitor in the face (changed everyone's thinking of the front kick in mma) knocked him out silly then finished Yushin Okami. So it would have been a perfect time. GSP was boring and I feel like you should be able to finish your opponents to be considered p4p.
GSP would've came up but Silva wouldn't agree to drug testing. USADA wasn't on the scene when that fight was proposed.
Jon Jones, DJ and GSP are the only guys who can be in the GOAT convo IMO. Anderson's skillset and resume don't compare to these guys, even Aldo is far superior to Anderson in this regard.
It’s crazy how disrespected Anderson is, he’s the most skilled of them all and has shown the best longevity by a god damn country mile 😂
The real list imo is
1. JJ
2. Fedor
3. Silva
4.GSP
5. MM
Then you got the rest of the pack
Jose Aldo does not have a better resume than Anderson, Anderson stopping Henderson in 2 rounds is better than almost anything Jose has done just for starters, and Jose was one of my heroes.
No one is moving UP weight classes and not getting mauled to death by bones. Esp at that time, that was his prime. On top of being ridiculously skilled he was a really big 205'er. Love silva & would not of wanted to watch that. Would've ended with Jon on top of him reigning down the most cringe inducing sharp elbows ever.
@@silkyjohnson3785 First off that wasnt Anderson. That was Johnny Hendricks and GSP trying to force him to do both USADA and VADA testing. GSPs excuse was always "if I fight at 185 pounds it'll be permanent so I'm not ready to fight there yet". When asked about Anderson Silva. You also are acting like GSP was a clean fighter which he could have easily not been when drug testing was a joke in that era.
It's a real shame we never got to see Jones vs Johnson. It seemed like they were heading towards a collision, but it never happened. Now it never will.
Jones keeps him at bay and takes him down later rounds and gnp win
Never say never
@@pedrokoto I've got some bad news for you
@@xensonar9652 what? Is Jones fighting Brendan Schaub next? SHIT….so much for being undefeated. Oh well it was fun while it lasted but there’s always someone tougher.
For a second I thought you were talking about Demetrious and I was confused af 😂
This episode hasn’t been put on Spotify yet
It's true that Khabib is one of the if not the most dominant ever, but it is not true that he is one of the greatest! Why? Because of his lack of resumè!
What made him so great is he never took any noticeable damage. He always came out looking like he went in and doing it in the best division in the UFC.
Never lost a round.
Cleared the division convincingly, except prime tony. That fight never came to be 😒
@@jsmith9024 dude, he beat 3 people of importance, Justin, dustin, conor, that's it! Mike Johnson and edson were never even title contenders.
@@andrewhagan7788 once again RESUMÈ!!!!
Didn't Joe claim Rhonda to be the GOAT at one point in time?
LOL, goat of what? Wwe?
He did. Lol
Compared her to Ali, in fact.
Joe says a lot of silly things
In the sense, connor and khabib are goats when it comes to the attention they brought to the sport, rhonda was a big deal for women divisions
I'm glad Joe mentioned mighty mouse in the GOAT conversation. He absolutely belongs there! 💪
How does Joe have derek from mpmd expose Jon Jones testosterone levels and still say he’s the goat?
Khabib, gsp and silva were all juiced. Dj is your only options of probably clean fighters if that’s your rule
@@shel-op9tl I mean……. DJ is still a pretty good choice. Dudes a beast.
Talking about his credentials as a fighter damn almost all of them are juicing
@@shel-op9tl "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan. DON"T MAKE SHIT UP. Khabib and GSP were never busted for PEDs.
@@alihassoun101 gsp played in the most roided era ever bffr
nothing on spotify?
I think Stipe will beat Jones when they fight next.
Ты шутишь бро
And if he doesn't, people will move the goalposts again for jon.
@Gerald Tone move the goalposts. If goalposts is metaphorical for the apponents Jon faced, then yes, they will probably find another apponent. If you're implying he gets favors/special treatment, I have some tissue for your bitch tears!
@@geraldtone5914 Джон Джонс Г.О.А.Т
@@geraldtone5914 я не понимаю твой английский
Well said by Joe. Jon coming back after 3 years and smashing Gane reminded me of Jordan's 2nd threepeat
Please leave Jordan Petersons sex life out of this
I love how many big mainstream celebrity fans the UFC has. Shows how much it is growing
I don’t think GSP is the same type of man Jon Jones or Mike Tyson are but he’s still a GOAT
I do get what you are saying, jon and mike have a viciousness about their opponents, where you feel like they genuinely want to hurt them, and GSP is more of a sport-s mentality kind of person.
I would argue that when the cage door closes they have a more similar mindset then outside of the cage preparing mentally for a fight. You better believe GSP wants to hurt you when he "switches it on" before a fight, and neither jon or mike want you to die in the ring so they are similar in that way too.
@@kichmadev I definitely can agree with that!
I guess the only thing that separates him from Jones & Tyson is the ability to turn it on and off.
@@kichmadev Thats why GSP is a straight up T1000. If he ever moved up to fight someone like Jon, he'd definitely give him a challenge he'll never forget.
@@thephilosopher7173 Huge GSP fan, but If he ever moved up to HW Jon would give him a bigger beating than Pre-USADA Johnny Hendricks gave him lol.
Jon reminds me of Homelander 😅😅😅
Who the fook is Homelander?
@@frankcadillac1456 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷♂️
I like Joe's confidence.
With the same confidence he said Ronda would whoop her male counterparts and that she would beat up Floyd.
His confidence is admirable though.
Who else was waiting on joes reaction to the fight 😂
GOAT List:
1: Jon
2: Bones
3: Jones
🫡🐐🐐🐐🐐
100%
Where is this full episode?
LONG NECK ICE COLD BEER never broke my heart, but Jon Jones broke every bone in my body
The 🐐 POINT BLANK PERIOD 💯
Why cant i find this on Spotify!?
Jon Jones is so damn great that there is only 1 man alive that can beat Jon… and that 1 guy is Jon Jones.
He'll still have to do 23 fights clean to be the GOAT. GSP is the GOAT unless Jon does that.
based and true
Hater
Jon had better comp and GSP was in pre usada era beating guys on juice just like Jon was. If you beat a trained fighter on roids, chances are, you are on roids too. There is no goat of mma if everyone is on something.
@@themadman6667 - give me a break , GSP offered not only to pay for private testing for himself but also for Hendricks , comparing doping to bringing a knife into the ring . Hendricks' career went into the gutter after usada , but GSP came back to crush Bisping . Some people have always done it right and obviously some people are still gaming .
@@themadman6667 GSP was the guy asking for USADA and not getting it and volunteering for it before UFC brought them in. He was a natural competing among cheats.
Great conversation! Can't wait for the full episode
He was on coke and partying all the time but was also on roids so when does that come into play in the goat conversation, but “everyone on roids”
Lol there all on roids, any competitive advantage there all going to take it
Anyone who thinks testing positive for PEDs matters has never competed in sports at a high level lol
@Mikko how so?
I see juiced to the gills guys get tapped by some tech nerd at the boxing/mma gym all the time.
If y'all bozos think GSP was 100 percent natural and clean then please give me the directions to lala land because you're living in it.
I mean u can still whoop somebody on roids and coke u see body builders on roids get whooped all the time
Let’s see what happens when Jon fights an aggressive heavyweight
Let's see what happens when you bend over and take it.
Stipe is next, gunna be a banger
This episode not showing up on my Spotify
I really don't understand why people are treating this last fight as such a huge deal. I had no doubt in my mind Jones stomps out Gane. I don't even have any issues with Gane, I think he's good, I think he's even better than good, hes a great fighter especially for the movement he's got at heavyweight. All that being said , Jones is such a wild card, he's not that old as some people are saying, and him moving up to heavy only meant one thing to me. More power, more weight to throw around, on that same agile and unorthodox frame of movement
Nobody expected it to be so quick that's the narrative lala
Jon has fought the baddest men that fought in the ufc - same with Mighty Mouse baby goat. Well said Joe! These people needs to watch jon jones greatest hits
Still would love to see that Francis vs Jones fight to really settle, I don't think Jones would be able to do the same thing to Francis who's wrestling has only gotten better as we've seen against Stipe.
A lot of hater’s on here mad at the GOAT 🐐 😂 Jon Bones Jones
“You can’t accidentally beat Jones” 😂😂😂😂😂 no but you sure could accidentally get that ass whooped 😂
Can't bean Jones by accident? Sure can, you just wait till he gets busted cheating again.
Matt Hamil did exactly that
That wasn't a difficult fight(especially on the ground) for Jones if we're being honest; his next fights will confirm or not that Goat title.
Even before Gane he objectively had the best resume, you're like 4 years behind
people always move the goal posts. he had a 3 year layoff, moved up a weight class, and beat a top 5 heavyweight. he’s the GOAT
@Jaden They certainly always move the goal post. There are multiple 250 pound athletes that couldn't stop gane. Jon does it in 2 minutes, and now gane was an "easy" opponent. If it was easy it was because jon made it easy.
My guy, if you wanna argue against his goat status based on ped use.. we can argue that.. but that's the only legitimate argument against Jon Jones being the Greatest fighter to ever live..
It may have even been arguable before Gane , but in my opinion, even then he had it..
Ciryl gane was touted as the future.. the new age heavyweight. Supposed to be the worst matchup for Jon outside Francis.. at least half the community had ciryl winning.. then Jon ran through him and all of a sudden it's not Jon is great. It's Gane isn't great..
You guys blow me with that.
I do respect your take on stipe. I always stipe is Jon's toughest fight at heavyweight. Assuming stipe is healthy and in his prime still.... But when Jon beat Cyril Gane, a highly touted, futuristic heavyweight that held an interim title and went five close rounds with the most dangerous puncher in MMA, that clinched the greatest argument for me.
Even if stipe flatlines Jon Jones, Jon will still be the overall goat of the sport.. if stipe beats Jon he will be the greatest heavyweight to ever live.. but for overall p4p the only logical choice is Jon Jones unless you wanna argue failed drug test.
@@HeroicEvil13 I agree; Jones is one of a kind fighter. But that fight was a pretty easy fight for a fighter of his caliber and experience. The Goat should go against the best otherwise it's just child's play.
They are fighters, they don’t get into turmoil, they are the turmoil.
Jon Jones whoops everyone in human history in a 1 on 1 hand to hand fight to the death. Those gladiators and vikings had no knowledge on MMA (the most effective fight technique by a huge margin) and today's MMA fighters are nowhere near as smart as Jon.
It's crazy to think of it that way but you're absolutely right
Umm NO. There's a weight class for a reason. Some of them Vikings would make Jones look like a midget. Maybe make your point without being so hyperbolic.
@@peptalk7658 you think the Vikings running around 1000 years ago were pushing 250+ lbs with no knowledge of nutrition and less readily available food? interesting take. Not to mention that the average viking was 2-3 inches shorter than the average male nowadays....
@@peptalk7658 Lol stop the average Viking was short. And the biggest Vikings couldn't fight for shit 😂
Absolutely not. There has been over 100 billion people in history. Theres easily over 1,000 people throughout history that would absolutely ragdoll Jon. Monsters in every sense of the word.
Watching that fight a couple times, he didn't look all that great, I'm interested to see how he performs now that the ring rust was shaken off.
lol He didn't look that great in all of the two minutes it took for him to end the fight?
He even admitted he felt awkward in the striking department, who knows if that was enough cage time to fully shake the rust off
@@jonv1776 come on man, Jon did look all little awkward.. the thing is Jon being awkward and covered in ring rust is still likely the greatest fighter to ever live..
@jonv1776 he indeed finish the fight quickly but he did not look fluid in that short time by any means.
@@TheRealSwampOperator agree
Anyone else not see any new episodes cause Spotify isn't showing them !! Had no idea the last 3 guests have been on till I seen it on UA-cam smfh
He was already the GOAT, IMO
Where is this pod at? Don’t see it on Spotify.
Cheating disqualifies one from attaining GOAT status.
Jon doesn't cheat.
@@geraldtone5914
LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!! Sure thing Pal.
@@NotSure723 Where is the proof that jon cheated?
@@geraldtone5914
He failed multiple drug tests. Get a clue.
@@NotSure723 - One could almost say he failed the GOAT exam ! 😆