Khabib or Jon Jones - Who is the GOAT in MMA?

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2020
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  • @tccandler
    @tccandler 3 роки тому +14130

    Jones has flaws in his resume... and drug use. Khabib has zero flaws... and no cheating allegations. Debate over.

    • @WTC-1990
      @WTC-1990 3 роки тому +709

      it's GSP or Khabib

    • @Boebuscuse
      @Boebuscuse 3 роки тому +1523

      Easy to have zero flaws when you only have 4 title defenses. GSP, Mighty Mouse, Jones, Anderson Silva > Khabib

    • @Rundvelt
      @Rundvelt 3 роки тому +154

      Exactly. This whole debate is stupid.

    • @abdoukiller1512
      @abdoukiller1512 3 роки тому +798

      @@Boebuscuse oh yeah its easy to have zero flows when u only have 29 fights/wins in the hardest devision in the ufc yeah?? If its that easy then lets see u try it tough guy.

    • @KeithChapman-hr5kx
      @KeithChapman-hr5kx 3 роки тому +76

      Names beat, and you fangirl know. It.
      Jones is a bum imo but hes beat better people. If jones runs thru heavy weight and no more ped fails. Hes the goat

  • @derbistheeternal2947
    @derbistheeternal2947 3 роки тому +4077

    Luke Thomas's breakdown of Khabib's finish of Gaetje in the beginning was great.

    • @SmearierSonjay
      @SmearierSonjay 3 роки тому +149

      Yeah he’s a great person to listen to if you want to learn more about the sport. Truly great insight.

    • @TRiXest95YO
      @TRiXest95YO 3 роки тому +13

      Amazing!

    • @jayceeinvincible
      @jayceeinvincible 3 роки тому +10

      Facts💯

    • @sheshd
      @sheshd 3 роки тому +102

      He's breakdowns are ALWAYS on point. So much better listening to him over idiots like Schaub

    • @andrewsporkelson1185
      @andrewsporkelson1185 3 роки тому +50

      How Schaub is still around amazes me. Dude is propped up by pure hate

  • @novicelifts5197
    @novicelifts5197 Рік тому +1763

    I agree Jon Jones is by far the greatest example in MMA. Won every fight clean while everyone was in steroids. Takes good care of his wife and children. And even prevented a premature baby from being born by crashing into the lady’s car.. Should win the Nobel Prize in my opinion

  • @hebt9mlk
    @hebt9mlk 2 роки тому +1251

    So it is basically like this:
    Jones = what he accomplished
    Khabib = how he accomplished

    • @grandpas_brownies8710
      @grandpas_brownies8710 2 роки тому +12

      Bingo

    • @tunisiandom9318
      @tunisiandom9318 Рік тому +57

      Khabib said it himself ... my legacy is smash. He did not care how many, he cared that he did smash them. and smash he did.

    • @mansamusa897
      @mansamusa897 Рік тому +22

      True God gifted Talent in John Jones +Better Resume
      Hard Work and Dedication + Consistent Domination in Khabib well said, Every thing is Subjective

    • @Adam.Rushing
      @Adam.Rushing Рік тому +17

      @@mansamusa897 God Gifted Talent certainly. So that makes it GGT+coke+steroids+??? = JJ! 🤣🤣

    • @john-ch3en
      @john-ch3en Рік тому +15

      @@mansamusa897 Yeah God gifted him nice fingers to pull the opponents eyeballs

  • @berzerk6950
    @berzerk6950 3 роки тому +7135

    Jones doesn't train and still beats his opponents, Khabib tells his opponents for months exactly what he's gonna do and still makes it look like they never knew what was coming.

    • @TyroneBiggums789
      @TyroneBiggums789 3 роки тому +132

      Facts

    • @rezwanislam8061
      @rezwanislam8061 3 роки тому +225

      his opponents is 5 feet when he is 6 feet😄..that's why jon doesn’t need training

    • @berzerk6950
      @berzerk6950 3 роки тому +420

      @@rezwanislam8061 LOL well I mean they're still in the same weight division, but yes Jon does have a height and reach advantage over most fighters

    • @rezwanislam8061
      @rezwanislam8061 3 роки тому +91

      Same Weight doesn’t matter much bro...if he would've fought all the fights with the same height of opponents as him, he would've lost more than one
      Rayes fight was very disputed.. But khabib didn’t lost more than maybe 1 or 2 round in his entire 29...but jones lost many of them in his 26..

    • @berzerk6950
      @berzerk6950 3 роки тому +82

      @@rezwanislam8061 that is a weird point to argue but I'm not comparing Khabib to be the inferior fighter to Jones here. Khabib easily the goat of his division

  • @general.kenobi
    @general.kenobi 3 роки тому +4082

    Screw the 29 wins. My man didnt even bleed in his whole career which is absolutely ridiculous!

    • @general.kenobi
      @general.kenobi 3 роки тому +258

      @James Franko every pro fighter does weight cuts and you cant compare khabibs dominance with jones'. Khabib beat up the best of the division like they owed him money lol

    • @AhiskaTurk96
      @AhiskaTurk96 3 роки тому +79

      @James Franko He walks around the same weight as Tony does....? And when he cuts water weight it is usually 15 pounds...You guys really love making excuses constantly..Its quite pathetic.

    • @AhiskaTurk96
      @AhiskaTurk96 3 роки тому +45

      @James Franko Khabib walks at 190-195 max if he is not training...Tony walks between 185-200.....Explain that buddy...Would love to hear your response 😂

    • @thedarkknightisrisingup7640
      @thedarkknightisrisingup7640 3 роки тому +42

      @James Franko All the lightweights walk around at middleweight lmao

    • @AhiskaTurk96
      @AhiskaTurk96 3 роки тому +18

      @James Franko He hasn’t missed weight since he has gotten a nutritionist......Tony is still walking at 190 mate.....Stop lying ffs its quite pathetic. Khabib said it himself and Javier Mendez stated that Khabib walks at 85-87kg....

  • @markyocum8249
    @markyocum8249 2 роки тому +833

    Khabib was also smart enough to not only go out on top, but early enough to avoid a lot of health problems later on.

    • @aka1721
      @aka1721 2 роки тому +65

      He was going to retire on his 30th fight regardless. That's what his dad's plan always was.

    • @nicholasrendon2386
      @nicholasrendon2386 2 роки тому +21

      @@aka1721 no he said he didn’t want to fight without his father in his corner

    • @aka1721
      @aka1721 2 роки тому +21

      @@nicholasrendon2386 i never said that though? I said he was going to retire the next fight anyway if he went for it.

    • @speakingfacts3931
      @speakingfacts3931 2 роки тому +1

      Thats why he’s not the goat.

    • @generalknowledge8068
      @generalknowledge8068 2 роки тому +1

      @@speakingfacts3931 because he didn't get brain damage

  • @lemongeezer1157
    @lemongeezer1157 2 роки тому +957

    Watching this after Jones became the undisputed champion of the DomesticWeight division

    • @imbaroud5273
      @imbaroud5273 2 роки тому +38

      yeah, that's so fucked up
      edit: especially front of his child

    • @jeremyroberts8822
      @jeremyroberts8822 2 роки тому +40

      @@imbaroud5273 his child was also the one who asked the security guard to call the police which fucking breaks my heart man.

    • @TTSrBronson
      @TTSrBronson 2 роки тому +4

      Oj trying to take the title back

    • @lemongeezer1157
      @lemongeezer1157 2 роки тому +2

      @@imbaroud5273 yeah fam

    • @Sombra_Azul_
      @Sombra_Azul_ 2 роки тому

      XD

  • @jacobbenham3521
    @jacobbenham3521 3 роки тому +6486

    I’ve been hurt worse at my job at McDonald’s then Khabib has in his whole ufc career

    • @unknownass666
      @unknownass666 3 роки тому +180

      *MMA career*

    • @jacobbenham3521
      @jacobbenham3521 3 роки тому +42

      Yea pretty much, he hasn’t ever really be hurt

    • @JM-cf9xy
      @JM-cf9xy 3 роки тому +76

      You must get your ass kicked a lot at mcdonalds

    • @makhtar6029
      @makhtar6029 3 роки тому +4

      @@unknownass666 it’s still UFC

    • @sayantandas2815
      @sayantandas2815 3 роки тому +28

      @@JM-cf9xy naah he is at the drive-in getting wrong fries thrown at him

  • @dominickruiz224
    @dominickruiz224 3 роки тому +2434

    Dominick Cruz: “Think Conor is trying to tire Khabib out right now.”
    Joe Rogan “ I don’t think he’s trying to do anything he just getting smashed.”

    • @healthywealthy4620
      @healthywealthy4620 3 роки тому +64

      Also Rogan: Rousey is a world class striker
      😂

    • @SSJOMI
      @SSJOMI 3 роки тому +11

      He can not make Khabib tired because he does not have any grappling or defensive skills. The lack of wrestling background got Conor smashed.

    • @bobby9458
      @bobby9458 3 роки тому +6

      @@healthywealthy4620 I think dom saying that was insinuating Conor couldn’t do anything, he just worded it that way, he’s trying to tire him out cause he doesn’t think he has any other options

    • @ahorse7884
      @ahorse7884 2 роки тому +1

      Cruz’s point was just that if Conor is in a position where he is reletively safe (by repetively safe I mean covering up) and he has no where to go, then he might as well just try and tire Khabib out.

    • @dr.strange1945
      @dr.strange1945 2 роки тому +3

      @@ahorse7884 that doesn't mean he's trying to gas Khabib out, that means he's defending himself. Gasing out is something you do on purpose and I hardly believe that conor put himself into that situation so that Khabib gets tired. That's ridiculous

  • @doml998
    @doml998 2 роки тому +504

    How people forget Anderson Silva's reign is really beyond me. The highlight reel ko's over and over vs very good competition AND he wasn't afraid to fight at LHW. Making very good fighters look novice. Not to mention the short notice fight after his prime vs a prime DC who wanted absolutely nothing to do with Silva's standup. Also his recent success in a totally different discipline (boxing) vs a former legitimate prize fighter. Still holds the record for most consecutive title defenses and the manner in which he did it.

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 2 роки тому +13

      @Amadeus its less damaging then someone like Jon Jones, a large portion of his prime was in the steroid era of MMA

    • @user-tl2cs6wv8b
      @user-tl2cs6wv8b 2 роки тому +53

      Yeah but Anderson Silva lost his shine as soon as he got knocked out by Weidman then lost again to him then went on to lose to Adesanya, DC, Cannonier, Bisping, Hall & even got popped for steroids after the Diaz fight. Finished his mma career with 11 losses. Khabib is perfect at 29-0, NEVER failed a drug test, NEVER lost a fight!

    • @dravendfr
      @dravendfr 2 роки тому +20

      @@coreygolphenee9633 Not only that, but Jones and his eye pokes not being called out is absurd.

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому +2

      yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

    • @aka1721
      @aka1721 2 роки тому

      Not sure about you but the majority of the mma community is disappointed with him after he popped for steroids. Also it of course makes you think that since most of his dominance was pre-USADA, it's easy to say that he was most probably roided during those times as well. It's also why people forget about GSP as well (the running away from big rig didn't do him any favors either).

  • @hdrgb
    @hdrgb Рік тому +31

    I love when two knowledgeable wrestling/bjj people get together and break things down piece by piece like they did here.

  • @fxj___
    @fxj___ 3 роки тому +1784

    "didn't train for a fight" would be the worst excuse ever for a professional fighter

    • @jasonluv2000
      @jasonluv2000 3 роки тому +152

      He has openly admitted that a big part of him not training for fights was to be able to tell himself if he were to lose that it was because he didn’t train

    • @abdellaali305
      @abdellaali305 3 роки тому +7

      Jason Luv he must not train for fights no more then 😂

    • @fernandoaguero2814
      @fernandoaguero2814 3 роки тому +43

      But imagine to be able to do that and get away with it!

    • @dfeliz83
      @dfeliz83 3 роки тому +10

      Mike tyson knows about that. All the major fights he lost he didnt train for or was under a bad influence whether it be the influence of a other person or a drug. If he ever lost his way... he never would have lost until much later in his career.

    • @RevenantCheetosx
      @RevenantCheetosx 3 роки тому +1

      Nate Diaz and McGregor was so close that Nate got 2m vs his 50k ish usual payouts

  • @jessiejoy1703
    @jessiejoy1703 3 роки тому +1724

    Dude what khabib did to Gaethje made him literally look invincible

    • @ramzichouk4080
      @ramzichouk4080 3 роки тому +194

      the only fighter in MMA history to win all his fights without a single scratch on his face from the start to retirement no blood , no injury ,nothing !!! the only one to do it , the true GOAT KHabib the eagle

    • @amir-bz2he
      @amir-bz2he 3 роки тому +9

      gaethje did clip khabib tho

    • @ctc1996
      @ctc1996 3 роки тому +6

      Not really lol. Poirier and Eddie Alvarez starched gaethje and it’s a known fact Justin only a white belt in jiu jitsu. Lmfaooo he’s a c+ fighter at best. Conor would have rearranged his facial structure. People gas Justin cuz he beat up Tony who has zero boxing skills pretty much and uses a wing Chung dummy to train. Tony just stood there with no head movement and a granite chin. Justin is alright. He loses to poirier , mcgregor, Khabib , every time .

    • @jessiejoy1703
      @jessiejoy1703 3 роки тому +45

      @@ctc1996 I’m sorry friend if you’re gonna sit there and claim that both Dustin porier (whom I like btw) and Eddie Alvarez are better than Tony Ferguson then ur gonna need some pretty impressive points to back that argument up lol. Ferguson is a one of a kind fighter and most ppl know that.
      Ppl were psyching up Gaethje because he slaughtered Ferguson, and no one has done that before, so yeah, that’s is something to be impressed about. And even before that all of his fights were always competitive and thrilling to watch honestly. He did lose. But he lost in good fights and learned from them.
      And finally the icing on top was Gaethjes world class wrestling. Khabib is a wrestler, he had never fought anyone in the UFC who was also a decorated wrestler.
      That is why the hype for Gaethje was real. And his ass beating from khabib says nothing about Gaethje and everything about khabib. Gaethje didn’t lose because he isn’t good. He lost because khabib is practically indestructible. Gaethje gave him some staggeringly hard hits and khabib brushed them off like it was nothing. And then he outclassed a world class wrestler in seconds.
      The dude is next fucking level. I don’t I know of anyone who could beat him. But I would’ve loved to see Ferguson get that chance too.

    • @ctc1996
      @ctc1996 3 роки тому

      @@jessiejoy1703 “people were hyping Justin bc he slaughtered gaethje which never been done before” um yes it had been done before. Michael Johnson beat Tony already. Listen dude I love Tony but boxing and straight up hand to hand is not his best attributes and that’s no secret. He got dropped by lando venatta and Anthony pettis.

  • @deathstroke334
    @deathstroke334 2 роки тому +46

    That was an incredible breakdown of the submission by Luke. Very good idea.

  • @usmanqureshi8941
    @usmanqureshi8941 Рік тому +186

    I'm an extreme MMA Casual, but I swear this is the first sport I've seen where a guy got caught cheating but a large contingent of the fanbase still puts him in the GOAT category. Crazy stuff

    • @FraudChickn
      @FraudChickn Рік тому +53

      Usada changed rule, he no longer has failed test, Casual.

    • @Shawn-tf4tm
      @Shawn-tf4tm Рік тому

      @@FraudChickn Wrong that's alraedy been disproven. Jon is a cheater, PED's abuser.

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 Рік тому +41

      ​@@FraudChickn He still admitted to purposely and consistently poking people in the eye. Plus, Usada doesn't have a good track record lol

    • @FraudChickn
      @FraudChickn Рік тому +40

      @@migueljuarez6788 khabib pulled out repeatedly, used IV, never moved up weight, and wanted to fight GSP in lightweight lol.

    • @migueljuarez6788
      @migueljuarez6788 Рік тому +13

      @@FraudChickn Why are you talking about Khabib when I'm talking about Jones?

  • @sarthakbiswas2201
    @sarthakbiswas2201 3 роки тому +838

    Khabib: My toe might be broken but my mind is not. Respect

    • @sgorgardr227
      @sgorgardr227 3 роки тому +7

      It was too weeks before the fight, Geez.

    • @Shadow-kf2ko
      @Shadow-kf2ko 3 роки тому +13

      Mctapper : My foot was blame or something like this

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo33
      @iwantsexseemyvideo33 3 роки тому

      Much

    • @_don206
      @_don206 3 роки тому

      @shield&sword peace no his foot was blame or something like this

    • @recipoldinasty
      @recipoldinasty 3 роки тому +3

      Cringe

  • @HowardCharlesUK
    @HowardCharlesUK 3 роки тому +449

    The goat is reserved for Artem Lobov. 30 men have tried, only 15 have succeeded.

  • @tackmerci9313
    @tackmerci9313 Рік тому +188

    I believe that if Khabib had not retired, he would have continued to dominate his division and defeat any fighter who challenged him for many years to come, as he had already proven his abilities in his impressive undefeated record. This was also evident in the recent performance of Islam Makhachev, who showed his strength by defeating Oliveira, a highly hyped fighter at the time.

    • @marcorosas7614
      @marcorosas7614 11 місяців тому +7

      Exactly, the new contendants for the title, Oliveira or Chandler, would be defetead by khabib.

    • @bengough6772
      @bengough6772 10 місяців тому +8

      Yeah lol people complain he didn't beat enough top guys... Who was left? Charles? After what Islam did I believe Khabib does similar... Tony... Well after gaetjhe Tony doesn't look so good so khabib wins... And then? Chandler? Doubt Khabib woukd have had an issue... So why do we doubt he's one of the greatest

    • @notpaper-cr6ni
      @notpaper-cr6ni 9 місяців тому +2

      Not exactly. While khabib may have had more in him when he retired but not enough to gap jones. Jones has shown a very diverse style and he doesn’t just fight the best strikers. He fights the best. Jon is on a whole different level. In conclusion Jon bones is the best. Khabib could have gotten close if he didn’t retire.

    • @dannywhite7786
      @dannywhite7786 9 місяців тому

      Nah buddy shoulda coulda woulda. I believe Khabib was getting knocked tf out in his next fight by guys who actually present the threat of grappling also. HE DIDNT FIGHT OLIVEIRA CHANDLER OR DARIUSH. You don’t just give him those wins. Ducked Tony his whole career

    • @jaelonwillis2336
      @jaelonwillis2336 8 місяців тому +3

      @@bengough6772it really doesnt matter though, he retired early so it is all just speculation. It means as much as me saying “Khabib would have been the greatest gladiator alive if he was Roman”. Meanwhile we can prove Jons, GSP, and Andersons dominance. He just didnt prove himself, especially with those dozens of wins he got in those weird two round russian mma matches against cab drivers and streetsweepers. I like Khabib but he is always going to be the biggest “what if”. And dont sleep on Chandler and Oliveira, those dudes probably have the most threatening atylistic matchups for a wrestler like khabib. Chandler never fails to keep the fight standing with his insane explosive wrestling and striking, and oliveira has proven he can submit just about anyone from anywhere. Khabib is definetely a different beast but I believe they had a better chance than most people let on.

  • @Gilbert11jones
    @Gilbert11jones 2 роки тому +43

    “Not a sport on who gets cut most or” it’s the Diaz bros. They would win that😂

  • @uwotm8634
    @uwotm8634 3 роки тому +739

    Recency bias is a very good point, I really like what GSP said about the GOATs, when Silva was going through the MW division he was the GOAT, when Jones beat DC in the rematch he was the GOAT, and now that Khabib has retired on top he's the GOAT.

    • @arturbondarenco2155
      @arturbondarenco2155 3 роки тому +83

      Everyone and their mother said GSP was Goat when he beat Bisping.

    • @anomalocaris7869
      @anomalocaris7869 3 роки тому +10

      How the fuck can you compare fighters of different weight division

    • @SumtingWong343
      @SumtingWong343 3 роки тому +46

      @@anomalocaris7869 you can... just gotta look at the division talent and how the fighter dominated is division or multiple. Khabib as DOMINATED is division but never went up or down. But he probably lost 1 or 2 rounds in is whole career. Jon Jones is probably most accomplished but is character issues keeps him away from the goat debate IMO. Silva in is prime was unstoppable... but kept fighting past is prime and lost a lot since. GSP is the OG goat, the only flaw in is career was that hendricks fight but Hendricks was juiced the fuck up. Hendricks never was the same since USADA. GsP than cameback after a few years and won the championship in a division above... If Jones goes a division above and wins, he will be greatest no doubt

    • @123arskas
      @123arskas 3 роки тому +5

      @@anomalocaris7869 Thats what P4P ranking is for. It does a subjective comparison among all weight classes

    • @mullahgaming9446
      @mullahgaming9446 3 роки тому +4

      @@SumtingWong343 you forgot to mention jones did PEDs against old fighters

  • @mohammadal-shawish7837
    @mohammadal-shawish7837 3 роки тому +388

    ali: what's my name ?!
    khabib: let's talk now !
    legends !

  • @muhammadhashir6136
    @muhammadhashir6136 2 роки тому +224

    Khabib is not only undefeated but never bled! Almost everyone I know has bled and no one in mma is not only undefeated but has also never bled, no one as far as I know, except Khabib. I have gotten more hurt by myself, tripping or being clumsy, than khabib has in his career.

    • @civilwarwasaninsidejob7405
      @civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 2 роки тому +37

      Never bleeding has nothing to do with whose the greatest of all time. You can tell who all the new age MMA fans are. Most have never watched a fight pre 2015. Khabib is in the conversation, but I'll take GSP's and Jon Jones resumes. Also, both Jones and GSP have moved weight classes and didn't suffer any drop in performance. Jones was banging coke lines and partying 6 nights a week, while still beating greats.

    • @jollyface5986
      @jollyface5986 2 роки тому +9

      @@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 idk how snorting coke makes you the greatest of all time? Like cocaine doesn’t worsen your performance much, what a stupid ass argument

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv 2 роки тому +4

      @@civilwarwasaninsidejob7405 I get what you're saying. I think recents are judging decision Jon Jones. They don't recall Jons days of nobody having a chance. If Jon had taken things as serious as a Khabib does who even knows what he would've done.

    • @Matt-cr4vv
      @Matt-cr4vv 2 роки тому +3

      @@jollyface5986 Less that is lessens performance but rather he was partying when somebody else would be training. He was/is that good that he can do shit like that and still never truly lose in his career. It makes you wonder what his performances would have been/be if he had a Khabib work ethic.

    • @hhiippiittyy
      @hhiippiittyy 2 роки тому

      Maybe if it was bare knuckle Khabib woulda had bloody fists...

  • @MarkArandjus
    @MarkArandjus 2 роки тому +72

    2:22
    Good point, Khabib is so good he can actually decide how to win.

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому +1

      yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

    • @aka1721
      @aka1721 2 роки тому +15

      @@AC-mp7cx dude the mma community doesn't care what religion or nationality a fighter has.

    • @theboredman1450
      @theboredman1450 2 роки тому +2

      @@AC-mp7cx really and truly, his religion is completely irrelevant in the context of mma

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому +3

      @@aka1721 alot of racist people do. so they're mad that a Muslim is the goat, of two combat sports
      boxing and mma

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому +1

      @@theboredman1450it matters, it drives him in every way

  • @bigboss2011
    @bigboss2011 3 роки тому +2106

    One day we’ll tell a story of a wrestling guy from a mountain who beat the world best fighters, stay unbeaten and returned to his village to serve his mother.
    A story that looks like it was ripped straight out of the pages of a fairytale book, and had it not been for the videos proving it, people would have not believed it.

    • @NickyTmathew
      @NickyTmathew 3 роки тому +11

      Except Khabib will come back. Then what happens to your fairytale bro?

    • @utkarshsarkar839
      @utkarshsarkar839 3 роки тому +134

      @@NickyTmathew except that'll make it that much better, coming back to finish his father's dream of 30-0, retire and start his own gyms and be in corner of his friends he trained with, Umar, Islam etc

    • @ThePurestOnes
      @ThePurestOnes 3 роки тому +15

      Made me shed a tear

    • @CoyoteGonzalez7
      @CoyoteGonzalez7 3 роки тому +50

      @Diane Ghazaryan Conor was well past his prime? he was 30-31 years old...wouldn't call that past his prime

    • @ivartorr1469
      @ivartorr1469 3 роки тому +9

      bear wrestling? chill out, he wrestle a chained cub that was playing wtih him - stop hyping this fact up

  • @joegrayii
    @joegrayii 3 роки тому +1299

    Jon Jones: “I once hid under the octagon to avoid a PED rest”
    Also Jon Jones: “I’m the greatest of all time! Khabib is a bum”

    • @SAM-ru4vx
      @SAM-ru4vx 3 роки тому +5

      Also 🔫 NO TRESPASSING 🏡. Dont even try to sell me crap I dont want 🗡🔨⚒⛏
      Jon hates door to door salesmen

    • @eireabu9486
      @eireabu9486 3 роки тому +68

      @Call me Big dick Rick Jones cheated multiple times dont compare him to Khabib or GSP

    • @Youtubeguy368
      @Youtubeguy368 3 роки тому +3

      I get you’d had to get a bad joke off but he didn’t say he was avoiding a ped test it was for weed

    • @sflaw5581
      @sflaw5581 3 роки тому +11

      @@UA-camguy368 dana said that they don't test for weed...

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo33
      @iwantsexseemyvideo33 3 роки тому

      Serving

  • @johnchannell3912
    @johnchannell3912 2 роки тому +98

    Thats what i love about khabib like with mcgregor, he didnt run his mouth. He just went in and proved himself. Beautiful. Sportmanship outclasses any other mentality because you arent going in to just win, you are going in to be strategically intelligent with each move, being all around. You cant come in with one mind mentality and expect to be the best, you have to structure yourself to be all around, heart, soul, physicality and body.

    • @davideatherly4231
      @davideatherly4231 2 роки тому +9

      That all sounds great except he jumped the cage and created one of the biggest black eyes ever in ufc.

    • @cartoonsinhindi1023
      @cartoonsinhindi1023 2 роки тому +12

      @@davideatherly4231 that was super necessary......before that fight....dana and conor planned the bus attack for promotion....watch khabib's interview...he said it was a inside job.... that's why what khabib did after fight was super necessary

    • @AC-mp7cx
      @AC-mp7cx 2 роки тому +4

      yes a religious muslim is the greatest fighter in mma ever

    • @coleworld5010
      @coleworld5010 2 роки тому +5

      @@cartoonsinhindi1023 lol inside job? What a dork. The reason Conor did that was because khabib and his boys jumped one of Conor’s friends and he jumped on a plane with 20 goons the moment he found out. Then the bus attack happened.

    • @coleworld5010
      @coleworld5010 2 роки тому +2

      @@AC-mp7cx Jon Jones is not Muslim my friend.

  • @PowerShellNoob
    @PowerShellNoob 2 роки тому +170

    Jones is out of the conversation now, he had his chance to be the GOAT, and decided to cheat. GSP is IMO the GOAT of the UFC w/ Khabib being on his tail.

    • @ajosh4430
      @ajosh4430 2 роки тому +36

      JON JONES IS THE GOAT he didn’t even train for some fights and still managed to ko the best in the world out. DONT JUST PUT THE MANS CONS UP THERE U CAN TAKE A GUY WITH A UNDEFEATED RECORD OFF THE GOAT CONVERSATION

    • @PowerShellNoob
      @PowerShellNoob 2 роки тому +50

      @@ajosh4430 if you were proven to be on steroids or drugs during a fight or leading up to a fight, your record is invalid. Who’s to say most of his fights weren’t dosed? Look at TJ Dillashaw, the only reason he had such good endurance in most fights was because of a drug.

    • @kylleepstein6954
      @kylleepstein6954 2 роки тому +19

      @@PowerShellNoob Irrelevant to his resume. I hate jon and think peds steal his goat, but anderson popped too he is a goat. Khabib is 13-0 and 3 defenses. Not goat numbers

    • @OriginalNutta
      @OriginalNutta 2 роки тому +7

      @@kylleepstein6954what’s worse getting caught for drugs or cleaning out a division and retiring who’s to say JJ wasn’t on drugs during his best performances which invalidates or doubts his whole career but for khabib to never get cut bruised or bleed in 13 ufc fights is craZy and never lose a round that’s goat like behaviour

    • @daniela.t.thomas14
      @daniela.t.thomas14 2 роки тому

      You mean the fighter that rubbed Vaseline mid fight on his body vs a bjj black belt specialist, or retired when usada became mandatory.

  • @mohamedmoustafa5433
    @mohamedmoustafa5433 3 роки тому +188

    You also forgot to say that khabib was THAT dominant against gaethje with a broken foot and his coach said he didn't train for like 3 weeks during camp because he was so sick

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo33
      @iwantsexseemyvideo33 3 роки тому

      Chubb

    • @recipoldinasty
      @recipoldinasty 3 роки тому +1

      Shut up “mohamed” thats fake news

    • @samtaylor7279
      @samtaylor7279 3 роки тому +21

      @@recipoldinasty dayum son, khabib really in your head huh, livin rent free etc

    • @joemama8243
      @joemama8243 3 роки тому +6

      Khabib isnt even close to being the goat lol 3 tittle defense is nothing he hasn't even surpassed mighty mouse in goat list

    • @Badass1974
      @Badass1974 3 роки тому

      @@joemama8243 Randy C. 2 division champ. 5 time UFC champ. He's p4p the best imo

  • @jali1
    @jali1 3 роки тому +841

    GOAT is out of the conversation in terms of legacy when you have PED , steroids tarnishing your wins.

    • @Viwer_____
      @Viwer_____ 3 роки тому +70

      youre high if you think a majority of athletes arent using PEDs especially today

    • @jackyoung2576
      @jackyoung2576 3 роки тому +12

      You mean EVERYBODY in the UFc

    • @Pasicho
      @Pasicho 3 роки тому +75

      @@Viwer_____ a lot of fighters get caught more than once. GSP and Khabib have been found to be clean all throughout. coincidently those 2 is the argument. With Jones an easy negatition is PEDs.

    • @_honestly_7015
      @_honestly_7015 3 роки тому +1

      Wrong

    • @aps1s
      @aps1s 3 роки тому +13

      Khabib is also cool with people getting theyr heads cut of, so yeah therese that

  • @dragonblue5
    @dragonblue5 2 роки тому +157

    KHABIB! He was undefeated, kept his sht together, no drug issues…. Tag dolls everyone

    • @ayrtoncordeiro3898
      @ayrtoncordeiro3898 2 роки тому +41

      Jon jones , youngest ever champ , 5 former champs , 1 former double champ, 6 Hall of famers , most title defences , fought 2 fights in one month and one of those fights was for his first title shot . Jones has more title fights then khabib has in the ufc . Khabib has 5 fights in the top 10 , RDA that lost to cowboy in a grappling match , Michael Johnson a known loser same with barboza , Al iaquinta a last minute replacement , a conor out for 2 years and drunk on whiskey . His only legit fights were dustin and justin . His not the goat. Gsp dominated the ww division and after years off the sport went up to middle weight and beat the champ , Henry cejudo best DJ , TJ , Cruz , Marlon and is a double champ , usman beat masvidal twice , colby , tyron woodley, Gilbert burns , RDA , Demian maia , Leon Edwards is on the way to pass khabib if not already same with Israel best vettori , Brunson , kelvin gastelum , whitteker , Yoel and Paulo Costa. . There's amanda nunes the only fighter to defend two belts beat germaine de randamine twice , valentina twice , ronda , Holly Holmes, misha , cyborg. Daniel comier beat Anthony Johnson twice , Gustafsson , Anderson Silva , Dan Henderson , went up in weight best the most successful heavyweight stipe and Derrick lewis .

    • @googlebanmetoomuch2601
      @googlebanmetoomuch2601 2 роки тому +9

      Khabib is no doubt the LW 🐐. Jones is the MMA 🐐

    • @snakehddjj6103
      @snakehddjj6103 2 роки тому +6

      Do you not think the names on Khabib’s record tarnished his legacy abit? He was fighting Binman till like 18-0

    • @SpinningbacKFisT
      @SpinningbacKFisT 2 роки тому +1

      @@ayrtoncordeiro3898 see my top comment. Jones is a POS and wasn't nearly as dominant as Khabib.

    • @SpinningbacKFisT
      @SpinningbacKFisT 2 роки тому +3

      @@ayrtoncordeiro3898 he is a proven cheater. Like my man said. Debate over. Not to mention he's seriously struggled in some fights. Almost got tapped by Vitor, his fights with Reyes and Gus could have gone either way he got beat up badly in both of those against guys that went on to get viciously knocked out afterwards. Khabib has made every opponent look amateur. Also, dude fought some killers in UFC. Tf you talking about? Not to mention how much better of a person he is than Jones. The coke head cheat who drives drunk, plows into pregnant ladies and tries to flee the scene and acts like a delinquent thug towards law enforcement. A proven liar with a narcissist personality. Imo it's not even a debate and this is coming from a guy who ALWAYS sides/cheers the American over Russian fighters. I refuse to deny reality. Khabib is hands down the fkng goat. Point blank period....

  • @justmythoughts2786
    @justmythoughts2786 Рік тому +71

    Both are great but the way khabib choked out Connor was hilarious 😆

    • @netero6751
      @netero6751 Рік тому +2

      Conor pieced him up a bit in round three though

    • @mirzadagrinch69
      @mirzadagrinch69 Рік тому +5

      With soft and weak punches that were supposedly called strikes. Ask any mma expert they will say that khabib should’ve won that round

    • @TheCj5651
      @TheCj5651 Рік тому +13

      @@mirzadagrinch69 I guess your an expert huh

    • @amado4249
      @amado4249 Рік тому +2

      Chocked?

  • @RedForLife68
    @RedForLife68 3 роки тому +71

    I really like Luke’s breakdown of how Khabib got to submitting Justin.
    Very technical breakdown and just went to show how great the finish was 👌

  • @mikeletterst9882
    @mikeletterst9882 3 роки тому +43

    No recent bias, just facts.. Khabib dominated some of the best mixed martial artists in the sport, in the toughest weight division. He has never tested positive for any performance enhancing drugs. Not only is he one of the most skilled grappler, mixed martial artists, he is an honorable man with respect and dignity.

    • @lenoxhamese4610
      @lenoxhamese4610 3 роки тому +4

      The G.O.A.T. with four title defenses? Joke!

    • @JackRafael
      @JackRafael 3 роки тому +4

      @@lenoxhamese4610 your goat used steroids lol. Debate over

    • @yourelawyered
      @yourelawyered 3 роки тому +4

      What about his defense of Islamist terrorism in France?

    • @bablutu
      @bablutu 3 роки тому +3

      It's not the toughest weight division, that's some promoting bullshit, the toughest is the heavyweight.

    • @JackRafael
      @JackRafael 3 роки тому

      @@yourelawyered what did he say then?

  • @BroHakim708
    @BroHakim708 9 місяців тому +14

    5:51 Smart insight here by Luke into the situation, he was able to accurately predict the future about Jones' eventual transition to hw and how many would hail Jones as the ud goat if he won his hw fight
    Fast forward a couple years after this interview and the gane fight takes place, and exactly what he predicted happened, Luke's a smart guy, I definitely respect his mind

  • @anshumkathuria4587
    @anshumkathuria4587 2 роки тому +62

    Joe doesn't take into account the fact that during the savage phase, Jon was enhanced

    • @kowsarahmed7782
      @kowsarahmed7782 2 роки тому +15

      There is no way you win an MMA fight without training camp and doing coke unless, of course, you're juiced up.

    • @petermisberg732
      @petermisberg732 2 роки тому +9

      @@kowsarahmed7782 do you know That from your own mma experience?

  • @joshuahaley4367
    @joshuahaley4367 3 роки тому +602

    The goat doesn’t hide under the octagon at the gym for 8 hours to avoid a drug test

    • @MH-fm8fd
      @MH-fm8fd 3 роки тому +65

      @shane Nicholas he used PEDs, aint the better fighter either🤷

    • @nickg2366
      @nickg2366 3 роки тому +71

      @shane Nicholas no, in and out of the ring. A cheater can NEVER be the GOAT.

    • @JohnDoe-ql9pf
      @JohnDoe-ql9pf 3 роки тому +2

      @shane Nicholas does taking Ped matter to you?

    • @sflaw5581
      @sflaw5581 3 роки тому +7

      ​@shane Nicholas if the best fighter can be a cheater and use PEDs, then yea bones can be consider the best.

    • @steveshikadance
      @steveshikadance 3 роки тому +13

      @shane Nicholas Khabib never been cut, bled or been hurt, has dominated while Jones was in close fights with all of Gustafsson, Reyes and Santos

  • @TheEagleHasLanded
    @TheEagleHasLanded 3 роки тому +101

    Jon: I sacrificed a lot of blood to reach where I am.
    Khabib: Exactly my point, I never bled.

    • @Whobilation
      @Whobilation 3 роки тому

      Wat?

    • @toxicmasculine77
      @toxicmasculine77 3 роки тому

      @@Whobilation Jon Jones = 🥊🥊🤕🏆
      Khabib = 🥊🥊😁🏆

    • @SWard-oe8oj
      @SWard-oe8oj 3 роки тому +1

      this is the most retarded thing ive read today

    • @aculite2163
      @aculite2163 3 роки тому

      @@SWard-oe8oj weak sentence framing. But really a great point.

    • @aculite2163
      @aculite2163 3 роки тому

      @@JG-ge3ui yeah and won by cheating. 💉💉💉 Remember? And his last 3 fight? All were UD's dude just somehow won. If his physical capabilities were not enhanced then maybe things could have been diff. But it ain't same with gsp and KN.

  • @mohammedasif7667
    @mohammedasif7667 2 роки тому +31

    As a person and a fighter in both avenues KHABIBs a role model and real GOAT in true sense

    • @silkyjohnson7599
      @silkyjohnson7599 Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @kishorerocky6099
      @kishorerocky6099 Рік тому +5

      Muslim love muslim

    • @STiergoofball
      @STiergoofball Рік тому +2

      Name says you are a Muslim
      Opinion biased

    • @notpaper-cr6ni
      @notpaper-cr6ni 9 місяців тому

      Is that cope for him not being the goat in mma?

    • @MNSTRShams
      @MNSTRShams 5 місяців тому

      ​@kishorerocky6099 undont have to be Muslim to see Khabib is a better role model then Jones

  • @jean-christopherouleau1626
    @jean-christopherouleau1626 2 роки тому +61

    Idk why everyone keeps forgetting GSP

    • @hakimdarroudi7428
      @hakimdarroudi7428 2 роки тому +5

      Some controversial victories. A few actually. And 2 losses. Cant put him next to jones and khabib.

    • @sammi6614
      @sammi6614 2 роки тому +7

      @@hakimdarroudi7428 gsp is 100% the goat. He dominated the two people he lost to. Khabib hasn’t go the better resume than him either yes he’s more dominant but has only 3 title defences. Jon Jones is a cheater and has also got a couple fights that he arguably lost

    • @knurdlove5291
      @knurdlove5291 2 роки тому

      Khabib always mention GSP greatness

    • @jean-christopherouleau1626
      @jean-christopherouleau1626 2 роки тому +4

      @@hakimdarroudi7428 only Hendrix was controversial, he won against Penn in the rematch without any doubt. Jones is sitting on a lot of split decisions... (with PeDs)

    • @hakimdarroudi7428
      @hakimdarroudi7428 2 роки тому +2

      @@jean-christopherouleau1626 Penn first fight... khabib has arguably never lost a round in a bad way. Gsp got destroyed by serra and Hendricks (the cheater) banged him... gsp in the top but not the goat

  • @goaquizah4091
    @goaquizah4091 3 роки тому +591

    "No one as FLAWLESS as KHABIB."
    Period.

    • @collingoldfrey9728
      @collingoldfrey9728 3 роки тому +6

      false

    • @yungmaac8735
      @yungmaac8735 3 роки тому +6

      Adesanya

    • @sufiyanrafique251
      @sufiyanrafique251 3 роки тому +4

      @@yungmaac8735 i thought he lost to romero

    • @Cafe-pu9lw
      @Cafe-pu9lw 3 роки тому

      Period!

    • @davidboros968
      @davidboros968 3 роки тому +7

      Tibau🤔 Jones never miss weight .🤔 Khabib never fight vs BJJ specialist like Tony. Khabib fear to go his own weightclass he need to do abnormal weightcut . Jones still flawless illegal tec is just a joke.

  • @shababchy
    @shababchy 3 роки тому +95

    The fact that neither one of them brought up the PED record on Jon surprises me. Even Jon's earlier victories are now questionable since USADA wasn't in the picture than

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo1512
      @iwantsexseemyvideo1512 3 роки тому

      🛑🟥

    • @Negro.spiritual
      @Negro.spiritual 3 роки тому +11

      You think none of Jones opponents were juiced when they fought Jones ? Wht abt vitor and Jones smashes him nobody argues that anderson Silva was one of the greatest middle weights of all time and he popped when he beat nick just say you hate Jones any non bias person knows Jones accomplishments dwarfs khabib it’s not a think about question

    • @shababchy
      @shababchy 3 роки тому +7

      @@Negro.spiritual Nobody is calling Silva the goat either because of the same shit. We don't know if Jones opponents took PED either, EVEN if they did it don't matter. The fact remains Jon did and got caught multiple times once USADA came into picture.
      I don't hate Jon. He clearly has the best resume that I don't think anyone will ever top. But it's not a clean resume. So he needs to step out of the goat picture.

    • @palestineadesanya1996
      @palestineadesanya1996 3 роки тому +3

      @Jay Theboss yup Jon Jones is GOAT- Greatest Of Abusing Turinabol.

    • @mlgpubeboyx9848
      @mlgpubeboyx9848 3 роки тому

      Tainted supplement

  • @dubenstein6347
    @dubenstein6347 2 роки тому +2

    This conversation is great and it's based on Luke's child like enthusiasm for the fight game.

  • @USMColdies
    @USMColdies 2 роки тому +89

    I love Khabib, he beats great fighters but Jon has beat legends & undisputed future hall of famers or guys with great records up til their fight. The run up before his title fight against Shogun, not counting his journeyman fights, his opponents with the worst records were Vera @11-4, Hamill @ 6-2, Bader 12-0, Bonnar 12-4. After those, he tore thru the legends...

    • @ElNiNjA246
      @ElNiNjA246 Рік тому +7

      i just dont get how his name can come up at all when hes a proven cheat, doesnt that put into question his whole career? to me it makes his entire career null and void

    • @zeflr122
      @zeflr122 Рік тому

      @@ElNiNjA246 hes not a proven cheat

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 Рік тому +1

      @@ElNiNjA246 well how many fights did he test positive for?

    • @ABeastGaming
      @ABeastGaming Рік тому +5

      @@toptiertech7291 and on top of that new usada rules clear him. and also everyone is on gear some just dont get caught.. and even if you say that.. USADA's New rules would have cleared him.. He also beat vitor belfort who was on steroids

    • @omarhasan03
      @omarhasan03 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ABeastGamingit's awful how everyone defends a known cheater. At any rate, Khabib was unquestionably not on anything. So that would make his accomplishments even more impressive considering his opposition, according to you, was most likely on stuff.
      I can't take Jones seriously because he cheated. And I can't understand why even before the new USADA rules, it STILL wasn't brought up. The media is protecting Jones and that's not okay.

  • @justindeagrela5320
    @justindeagrela5320 3 роки тому +116

    There is no chance he lost the first round against Justin...there was an argument up until the take down and sub attempt

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo33
      @iwantsexseemyvideo33 3 роки тому

      Fun

    • @brittanym2080
      @brittanym2080 3 роки тому +1

      Have you seen this clip of Joe’s guest telling him the new studio is awful?!
      ua-cam.com/video/aL2zpkpWybA/v-deo.html 🔥

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 3 роки тому +2

      I can understand that Justin landed some shots but Khabib put the pressure in that round and also took him down I just dont see how Justin got it, that said I dont know why it matters that much since Khabib finished him with a beautiful triangle

    • @maxzak5310
      @maxzak5310 3 роки тому

      yeah but 2 judges gave the first round to justin , unbelievable

    • @stevus23
      @stevus23 3 роки тому

      Exactly

  • @s.w.6877
    @s.w.6877 3 роки тому +600

    Not ONCE do these guys bring up the performance enhancers that Jones used. Automatically disqualifies him as the GOAT

    • @nicholasgordon2158
      @nicholasgordon2158 3 роки тому +30

      Exactly and still baffled how much they are favouring Jones over Khabib even without roids!

    • @thetaylorholt
      @thetaylorholt 3 роки тому +2

      As a baseball purist, you’re right. Wow, that sucks. What drugs did he do? What’s the whole true story?

    • @wolfracing9504
      @wolfracing9504 3 роки тому +6

      Goat police lmao

    • @kingjoker8196
      @kingjoker8196 3 роки тому +11

      Yall try to discredit him for doing shit outside the ring not in the ring

    • @psy9199
      @psy9199 3 роки тому +6

      Everyone use drug these day

  • @brucedoyle4055
    @brucedoyle4055 10 місяців тому +10

    Jon jones is without a doubt a Great Fighter, but as he said Khabib was just flawless... i mean i just recently had my Khabib Full Story dose were i rewatched his start and end of his fighting carrer and there is no other word as Flawless... he is simply a different Animal, he fought against the Top Fighters and made it look like it was nothing! He dominated every round, he is respectful and humble. Befor Khabib i always hated it when Fighters started Grappling and Submissions, but seeing him do it, was like a work of Art, just like his Punches and Kicks and now i wish for that and hope to see another artist at work.
    Khabib was for me the first Fighter who was perfectly balanced and was not only great in all aspects, it also looked great, from Grappling to Hand to Feet Combat, Great intuition, huge Stamina and endurance, i mean he never sat down after each round against Mcregor, he escaped a Guillotine choke just to Submission Poirier seconds after...thats crazy! Khabib is still the current Goat for me until someone else comes who exceeds those feats, but right now, to me that person has yet to come.

    • @notpaper-cr6ni
      @notpaper-cr6ni 9 місяців тому +1

      Jones has done it at heavyweight as well. He’s shown to be dominant on his feet, on the ground, and he did this against dudes jacked up on steroids and he wasn’t always at his best. Jones just does to much.

    • @demarcuslewis1417
      @demarcuslewis1417 4 місяці тому

      No way you complimented khabibs striking dude was pretty bad at that. He had a padded record in his early stage of his career and he only fought like 4 good opponents all being strikers. “That person is yet to come” Jon been there bruh

    • @brucedoyle4055
      @brucedoyle4055 4 місяці тому

      What i forget to mention on why Khabib still is the Goat and has a Flawless carrer to me, is his Character itself, he has the Character and Charisma of a Champion, he has the mentality and discipline to be a Champion, his humbleness and his wisdom, he is a man focus and sheer will, he is a true Role model for the People. I base a Champion a Goat in all their aspects, and if that person can make me start thinking after he said something wise. Thats something i never had of any ufc fighter and jones is far from it, they all lets say simple. When you become a Goat you become a role model, and all other fighters are the same when it comes to discipline and lifestyle, they were normal Guys like you and me doing Party and relax after a Fight, but not Khabib, and i admire extraordinary people.

  • @Paul-nm6yh
    @Paul-nm6yh Рік тому +6

    Who is this guy and why have I never seen him before. So knowledgeable. Joe has that network. Seems like every friend and acquaintance this guy has is adding value to his life. Wish I had this ability to choose my friends so wisely. Respect.

  • @dub2459
    @dub2459 3 роки тому +120

    When it comes to intoxicated driving Jones is the GOAT.

    • @tuckermccabe9471
      @tuckermccabe9471 3 роки тому +1

      Justin said that he was the best at making car crashes. Bro you aint got shit on jon

    • @wynnefella
      @wynnefella 3 роки тому

      Are you intoxicateddd right nowww - gsp

    • @ovd1221
      @ovd1221 3 роки тому

      And go on talk about his daughter condition with the policeman 😅

  • @darrensylvester6154
    @darrensylvester6154 3 роки тому +252

    Khabib takes a hundred leg kick hes an absolute humble animal that batters everyone

    • @uphill248
      @uphill248 3 роки тому +7

      Keep kicking the bear you’re just going to make him madder.

    • @findingmyway93
      @findingmyway93 3 роки тому +1

      He has zero stand up game

    • @NecroxProduction
      @NecroxProduction 3 роки тому +1

      Habib is not so humble when it comes to islam. When those terrorists beheaded people in France he didn't say one word about it, but he did say that Macron must be punished for saying "bAd WoRds" about islam.

    • @showkatali4896
      @showkatali4896 3 роки тому

      Zzz Kkk nah that's Nate diaz

    • @alixus10
      @alixus10 3 роки тому +1

      @@findingmyway93 Khabib has extremely good defensive stand up. His offensive stand up needs work but it is very good for its intended purpose of pushing fighters back and opening up the takedown.

  • @JimmyHuynhdesign
    @JimmyHuynhdesign Рік тому +68

    Jones is obviously highly skilled but I think what helped him gain a huge advantage over almost all opponents was his body frame. A combination of his height and possessing one of the longest reach in UFC. Even with the same weight, he's naturally much bigger than most people he faced. Jones snuggled most with opponents of similar body types like Dominick and Gus. Would be very interesting to see how he performs at heavyweight.

    • @Jordidwaard
      @Jordidwaard Рік тому +6

      I honestly feel like jones' performance at heavyweight will decide this conversation. If he actually manages to outclass either stipe or ngannou he will have achieved too much.

    • @Amaarc77
      @Amaarc77 Рік тому +19

      @@Jordidwaard baddest man on the planet now 🐐

    • @Jordidwaard
      @Jordidwaard Рік тому +12

      @@Amaarc77 Baddest man of all time yessir

    • @ABeastGaming
      @ABeastGaming Рік тому +9

      @@Jordidwaard him beating ciryl gane in under 1 round is absolutely amazing.. Jones stopped fighting for 3 years moved up a weight class. fought someone who is probably bigger and a bit stronger than him. and still beat him so easily.. to the point that people are saying ciryl took a dive

    • @Jordidwaard
      @Jordidwaard Рік тому +6

      @@ABeastGaming and yet people still won’t acknowledge his greatness. Its insane.

  • @Ahmad.Raihan2.0
    @Ahmad.Raihan2.0 2 роки тому +14

    Khabib never losed a round never bleed undisputed undefeated champion of the world 🌎 khabib the eagle 🦅

  • @PeterGriffingigity
    @PeterGriffingigity 3 роки тому +83

    *Justin:* "I'm gonna break his leg till he can't walk"
    *Khabib the entire fight:* "Let's walk now"

    • @BigRamen
      @BigRamen 3 роки тому +1

      Justin: im gonna take khabibs soul, im gonna show him how to bleed, im gonna tko him bla bla bla
      Khabib: look whos talking

    • @sheikhfahad2436
      @sheikhfahad2436 3 роки тому +1

      Hahaha... The best ever

    • @PeterGriffingigity
      @PeterGriffingigity 3 роки тому +1

      @@sheikhfahad2436 Thanks

    • @aldyhermawan9628
      @aldyhermawan9628 3 роки тому +1

      🤣

  • @mentalmusclecoach
    @mentalmusclecoach 3 роки тому +158

    My question is, why do we crucify guys like Tj Dillashaw and TRT Vitor for PEDs, but so often it gets minimized or avoided in the goat conversation with Jon Jones?

    • @riptrojans7237
      @riptrojans7237 3 роки тому +4

      Tbf trt vitor had as much juice in him as a caprisun. He's a bit of an outlier.

    • @Underratedmen
      @Underratedmen 3 роки тому +8

      @@riptrojans7237 as soon as USADA got involved Jon got popped. For all we know he’s been juiced to the gills from the beginning.

    • @Jrock420blam
      @Jrock420blam 3 роки тому +1

      well i know people hate the chemistry involved but Dillashaw and Vitro were red red red hot while Jon Jones was right at the minimum threshold so if he was using we will never know because it falls withing the tainted supplement realm.

    • @Underratedmen
      @Underratedmen 3 роки тому

      @@Jrock420blam not the first time when he popped against DC.

    • @Jrock420blam
      @Jrock420blam 3 роки тому

      @@Underratedmen yes, specially the first time is the one im referring to. It was classic tainted supplement, the 2nd time of micro levels is what draws suspicion because he should have known better if it was tainted coke or supplements and he still popped

  • @dopvmine_p
    @dopvmine_p 2 роки тому

    luke thomas explaining khabib’s back take on gaethje was superb….

  • @rturae
    @rturae 2 роки тому +22

    Never tested positive for PEDs ✔
    Has fewer controversies ✔
    Has fewer questionable victories✔
    It's simple, Khabib is the GOAT

    • @Mar_real
      @Mar_real 2 роки тому

      We talk in the octogone wtf you saying thing than is not in the octogone

  • @dmj1419
    @dmj1419 3 роки тому +67

    Khabib has never even came close to losing. Jones has. Jones has the better resume but no one has ever dominated the opposition the way Khabib has.

    • @sangamb8429
      @sangamb8429 3 роки тому +4

      For that you have to fight upto age of 36 , jon jones is 36 still fighting and he became ufc champion at the age of 19, kjabib would have faced same situation if did fight at the age of 36

    • @MrShiro82
      @MrShiro82 3 роки тому +6

      @@sangamb8429 jones is 33 not 36

    • @ramoniglesiasdiaz3164
      @ramoniglesiasdiaz3164 3 роки тому +7

      Jones has been in trouble in arm bar one time
      Khabib was rocked by michael johnson early
      Jones 11 title defences khabib 3
      Its not even close octagon wise

    • @sangamb8429
      @sangamb8429 3 роки тому

      @@MrShiro82 my bad😂😂 jj is 33

    • @MrShiro82
      @MrShiro82 3 роки тому +5

      @@ramoniglesiasdiaz3164 would hardly call it rocked. and anyway, jones took steroids and has been in trouble more times than khabib. he also has more controversial decisions than khabib

  • @NotSoRandom_
    @NotSoRandom_ 3 роки тому +104

    GSP! Avenged his only 2 losses DOMINANTLY. Cleared out the entire welterweight division, then MOVED UP and won the Middleweight title against Bisping after 4 years out. GOAT.

    • @o.w.140
      @o.w.140 3 роки тому +3

      Someone had to say it

    • @turbofister6000
      @turbofister6000 3 роки тому +10

      Still lost though, Khabib didnt.

    • @williamswiniuch7527
      @williamswiniuch7527 3 роки тому +2

      @@turbofister6000 only lost two rounds and never bled

    • @ffsnick9853
      @ffsnick9853 3 роки тому +7

      @MambaMMA 24.2 GSP was advocating for doping tests for UFC fighters for years before USADA was brought in and even originally wanted much tougher and thorough testing than what USADA offers so how was he “running” from them exactly? Stop trying to slander one of the GOATS for no reason

    • @roadstar12439
      @roadstar12439 3 роки тому +1

      Johnny Hendricks fight???

  • @Kallmeknick
    @Kallmeknick Рік тому +2

    5:30, great analysis, exactly what he said happened

  • @JeoTivii-YT
    @JeoTivii-YT 2 роки тому +16

    Khabib never met an opponent like Chael Sonnen when Bones beat that dude using his own style that's the moment I realized that Jon Jones was unbeatable. 🙆

  • @DEADWANTED247
    @DEADWANTED247 3 роки тому +115

    I don't understand how this is a discussion. HE'S A PROVEN CHEAT ! Jones and his fans don't seem to realise how bad that is. He shouldn't even be allowed in the sport let alone be the regarded as one of the best.

    • @thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591
      @thoughtsofalostoneofalosto2591 3 роки тому +6

      Actually they cleared him of any cheating.

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo33
      @iwantsexseemyvideo33 3 роки тому

      Ski-doo

    • @Zero-io4tv
      @Zero-io4tv 3 роки тому +9

      Beef testosterone will always be beyond those mortals.

    • @backbone93
      @backbone93 3 роки тому +1

      Youre a hater

    • @mannykelevra
      @mannykelevra 3 роки тому

      I agree to a degree.... I think there’s a lot of PEDs in MMA, just like Nick said. With that being said I think PEDs help, but you can’t take away wrestling pedigree, physical attitudes like height, and reach, AND fight IQ

  • @AhsanKhan-xf7vs
    @AhsanKhan-xf7vs 3 роки тому +125

    Gsp: khabib is the greatest.
    Khabib: gsp is the greatest
    Silva: khabib is the greatest
    Jon: My 15 vs your guy 4.

    • @hadan8792
      @hadan8792 3 роки тому +15

      Says it all. Jon is a bum. A juiced one

    • @anomalocaris7869
      @anomalocaris7869 3 роки тому +6

      Dude you're straight up lying. Silva never said Khabib was the greatest, he said he's his favorite fighter to watch. He LITERALLY said GSP is the greatest.

    • @raminpcccq
      @raminpcccq 3 роки тому

      Well John was p4p #1 for a long time and just lost it. Give him a break .

    • @raees8678
      @raees8678 3 роки тому +3

      @@raminpcccq while on the roids

    • @chaudhry6769
      @chaudhry6769 3 роки тому +2

      Jon Jones is insecure.
      Khabib is the G.O.A.T.
      Hope Khabib vs GSP happens with the blessings of Khabib's mother. InshAllah

  • @Prophitforprofit
    @Prophitforprofit 2 роки тому +18

    GSP vs Khabib would be the most sold show ever for a while.

  • @shinjiuchiua7820
    @shinjiuchiua7820 Рік тому +1

    So on technical n performance issues it’s a stalemate but outside the octagon we gotta admit Khabib is the best example for his fans

  • @jn2050
    @jn2050 3 роки тому +218

    No drugs,no cuts, no contests, 1 round and a close one, no car accident, The 🐐

    • @Cts_99
      @Cts_99 3 роки тому +20

      Missed weight, pull out, injury prone. Fought a bum to win his first title

    • @afgankidd00
      @afgankidd00 3 роки тому +24

      @@Cts_99 yet that "bum" did better than Conor, Dustin or Gaethje hmm

    • @xrexi4366
      @xrexi4366 3 роки тому +6

      @@afgankidd00 no? The only rounds khabib lost were against conor and Justin

    • @afgankidd00
      @afgankidd00 3 роки тому +15

      @@xrexi4366 Conor won that round on the judges score cards yes that's a fact but rewatch that round again. The amount of times conor cheated and didn't get called out for it is ridiculous. As far as that Justin round goes, c'mon, are we really holding these judges scorecards as the end all be all? How many ridiculous decisions have we seen by these judges. Rewatch Khabib v. Justin round 1 again and tell me if you truly believe Justin won the round

    • @xrexi4366
      @xrexi4366 3 роки тому +1

      @@afgankidd00 tf you mean cheated? Khabib does steroids if anyone cheats he does

  • @bmwall2222
    @bmwall2222 3 роки тому +858

    Khabib seems to be a very honest, humble, champion person. He is like the Tim Tebow of Dagestan. I honor and resect him.

    • @jrgussngussn7093
      @jrgussngussn7093 3 роки тому +8

      A train wreck called khabib.

    • @tonypnts
      @tonypnts 3 роки тому

      @Billy Shabir stfu u know what he means

    • @cloutlordree3057
      @cloutlordree3057 3 роки тому +20

      How tf did teebow get in this picture....can I take a wild guess and say voted for trump?

    • @dfgntzfjgyhmghbndfnghcmsfr1089
      @dfgntzfjgyhmghbndfnghcmsfr1089 3 роки тому +5

      Who's Tim Tebow?

    • @seanim6846
      @seanim6846 3 роки тому +26

      Tim Tebow?
      Gtfo of here Tim fucking Tebow??
      The audacity of your statement. Wtf is going on here Tebow of Dagestan.

  • @justmiguel1487
    @justmiguel1487 Рік тому +5

    6:15 aged like fine wine

    • @Kantar007
      @Kantar007 Рік тому

      fr

    • @desma26
      @desma26 Рік тому +1

      clicked newest so I could find this comment

  • @Daniel-pr2tp
    @Daniel-pr2tp 3 роки тому +281

    Not Jon Jones, how the hell Joe just overlooks his cheating is BEYOND me
    Khabib said himself GSP is the GOAT. Can't be the goat with four title fights.

    • @Light-jo9lp
      @Light-jo9lp 3 роки тому +33

      joe works for ufc.. of course he would act like nothing happened before

    • @KingLlive
      @KingLlive 3 роки тому +29

      It’s because Jon Jones is the GOAT

    • @crimsonnite9291
      @crimsonnite9291 3 роки тому +8

      @@Light-jo9lp I really don't think Joe needs UFC. He loses money working for them at this point.

    • @sflaw5581
      @sflaw5581 3 роки тому +35

      ​@@KingLlive the GOAT who needs PEDs to perform.

    • @Daniel-pr2tp
      @Daniel-pr2tp 3 роки тому +10

      @Abner Cordeiro buddy. He failed it MULTIPLE times.

  • @ked4
    @ked4 3 роки тому +48

    Everyone: Jones! Khabib! Silva! Fedor!
    GSP: Am I a joke to you?

    • @kauskaus7217
      @kauskaus7217 3 роки тому

      His resume doesn't compare. And he wasn't dominant the way khabib and jbj were.

    • @bharathvarsh1801
      @bharathvarsh1801 3 роки тому +4

      @@kauskaus7217 lol what?

    • @muradyboy934
      @muradyboy934 3 роки тому +2

      What khabib beat bums most of his career his only key victories are rda Justin Dustin and conor, gsp beat guys way more elite then those guys

    • @toxicmasculine77
      @toxicmasculine77 3 роки тому

      GSP had his face rearranged vs Kendricks. And had a couple of very bad losses, yeah he "avenged" them but still those two losses he was dominated.
      Jon Jones and khabib don't have that issue

    • @toxicmasculine77
      @toxicmasculine77 3 роки тому

      @@muradyboy934 right. Let's pretend the lightweight division wasn't the most stacked division right when Khabib was arriving in the UFC.
      He's just that much better than everyone else. Gaethje defeated a fighter that was on a 12-fight win streak and Khabib made him look like an amateur. Just say you don't like him personally

  • @scottesmon9891
    @scottesmon9891 Рік тому +4

    Damn this video is super relevant now lol

  • @ufarkingicehole
    @ufarkingicehole 2 роки тому +38

    Too bad Jones has cheated a dozen times and arguably still lost 2 -3 fights. Jones cheated himself of goat status.

    • @Maks-qs4yi
      @Maks-qs4yi 2 роки тому +7

      2-3, theres literally only one, and reyes just got knocked out by blachowicz which proves the fight was a fluke,

    • @ufarkingicehole
      @ufarkingicehole 2 роки тому

      @@Maks-qs4yi sure dude 👍

    • @hares2782
      @hares2782 2 роки тому +2

      @@Maks-qs4yi maybe jan style is the perfect counter for reyes style n reyes style is the counter for jones alright. Styles make fight

    • @StaaaaNzHD
      @StaaaaNzHD 2 роки тому +1

      No I do not agree that he lost 2-3 fights. Only 1 arguably. The rest is spot on bro

    • @ufarkingicehole
      @ufarkingicehole 2 роки тому

      @@StaaaaNzHD Reyes, Gus 1 despite crack head jusges, and Santos are all arguable. They also didn't show up with roids in the system while Jones did. No matter how much Jon nutt huggers break it down, Jones has felt the need to cheat in most of his fights and barely beating non roided fighters doesn't gift you Goat status.

  • @SM-pr1qt
    @SM-pr1qt 3 роки тому +167

    That was the best breakdown I heard of Khabib subbing Gaethje

  • @iMaajid
    @iMaajid 3 роки тому +78

    Luke Thomas should have a commentary gig with the UFC. He knows his onions.

    • @iwantsexseemyvideo1512
      @iwantsexseemyvideo1512 3 роки тому

      ❤️🌶️

    • @obitriceforlife5771
      @obitriceforlife5771 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly the dude knows his MMA unlike many others.

    • @TRiXest95YO
      @TRiXest95YO 3 роки тому +1

      Agree brotha!

    • @sheshd
      @sheshd 3 роки тому +3

      Breakdowns vs commentary ain't exactly the same but yes his insight is exceptional. I'd love to see some collabs between him and Hardy

    • @marcgodfrey331
      @marcgodfrey331 3 роки тому

      He knows his shit, but it's never gonna happen. He criticizes the pay structure in the UFC so Dana automatically dislikes him

  • @backinbusiness2772
    @backinbusiness2772 Рік тому +1

    In a game of blood, we witnessed a man that never bled

  • @BodyJab295
    @BodyJab295 Рік тому +4

    What he's saying about Jones at heavyweight is spot on what happened.

    • @lukef752
      @lukef752 Рік тому

      Facts I can literally see it in this comment section.

    • @BodyJab295
      @BodyJab295 Рік тому

      @@lukef752 Luke is a man of knowledge. Never seen anyone break down fights and fighters better than him honestly.

  • @mohamedalahmadani5174
    @mohamedalahmadani5174 3 роки тому +215

    "Jones can take time off and still beat world-class athletes, who does that?!"
    I think the answer you're looking for comes in picograms, my guy.

    • @vibe9155
      @vibe9155 3 роки тому +19

      That is unrealistic for the average ufc fighter, along with even a good one. Jon is the GOAT

    • @GEICO316
      @GEICO316 3 роки тому +18

      @@vibe9155 without roids jones aint nothing chill cheaters never win he just cant accept he love that coco and roids get real jones

    • @abhayy2297
      @abhayy2297 3 роки тому +5

      Gsp can do that.

    • @TheInfamousThey305
      @TheInfamousThey305 3 роки тому +8

      @@vibe9155 facts. I love seeing them act like salt enhancements are superpowers 😂

    • @lucarossi9453
      @lucarossi9453 3 роки тому +1

      Gsp did lol

  • @jayu3697
    @jayu3697 3 роки тому +196

    Luke: My head is spinning.
    Joe while he’s pouring him more: That’s alright.

    • @crowns9966
      @crowns9966 3 роки тому +1

      @TheRealist 811 lmaoo

    • @DazedMMJ87
      @DazedMMJ87 3 роки тому +1

      Lmfaooooooo

    • @DmDaPDm
      @DmDaPDm 3 роки тому +5

      Lool Joes that bad influence friend you gotta watch out for 😂

    • @raymondchan318
      @raymondchan318 3 роки тому

      im dedd... 😂😂😂

  • @shahrezaDE
    @shahrezaDE 2 роки тому +29

    I love Jones fighting style more. But bruh be real khabib don't even sweat when he fights.. Insane respect for khabib. They both goats.

  • @steverapos3904
    @steverapos3904 8 місяців тому +2

    GSP, Silva, Jones, Machida, Usman, Adesanya - all looked invincible for a time. The thing hurting Kabib is he wasnt on top long enough

  • @Adam.Rushing
    @Adam.Rushing 3 роки тому +223

    A man trains to fight with the help of his father. His mother never really likes it, but accepts it because it's their way. Father tells son, you'll retire at 30-0. Two fights short of that goal, father dies. Mother tells son she doesn't want him fighting without his father around. Son fights one last fight because he had given his word to his father he would. Then he retires because he gave his mother his word he would. Just one fight short of a goal he had been working towards for his entire career. That ladies and gentlemen, that is a MAN.
    Show me one MMA fighter anywhere that has that kind of reverence for others, including his God. They don't exist.
    No, he will not return; not unless his mother wishes it. He will not return because he is a man of his word and that word was given. He cannot be bought. Khabib is exactly what martial artists used to aspire to be.

    • @batman_diaries
      @batman_diaries Рік тому +8

      There are better people in the fighting world. Pacman is one. He changed everything for his homeland. Brought so much change and a great man outside the ring. Just coz he is a good son does not make him great. He's an amazing warrior. But it rests at that.

    • @kingsweattv2465
      @kingsweattv2465 Рік тому +2

      Well said.... But unfortunately, you've mentioned NOTHING that actually matters when it comes to being pugilist/Martial artist!! His respect or lack thereof for his or anybody else god.. Utterly irrelevant

    • @raseanbenton1456
      @raseanbenton1456 Рік тому +1

      @William jon jones you meant

    • @stewartcattanach7224
      @stewartcattanach7224 Рік тому +2

      Remember when he missed weight and pulled out of fights, lack of professionalism not a man, pathetic

    • @Adam.Rushing
      @Adam.Rushing Рік тому +2

      @@batman_diaries I agree that just because someone is good in one area of their life (i.e. being a good son), it does not make them a great human being.
      I also agree that Manny is an amazing person, in and out of the ring.
      However, I disagree with the implication that Khabib is not - if that is what you were implying...I may have misunderstood you there. Khabib has done a lot for his home town, specifically helping the local kids and the schools...in fact, he and Pacman have a lot in common with their philanthropy choices.
      Though, I don't know how much he "has changed" Dagestan as a whole...I honestly donj't keep up with any celeb's personal life that much...I just know what I see/read.
      God bless bud.

  • @heyokah.2519
    @heyokah.2519 3 роки тому +87

    "Jon would take time off, wouldn't train and still come and beat everybody, it's amazing..." PED's my friend, PED's.

    • @tomob5715
      @tomob5715 3 роки тому +3

      You wildly exaggerate the effects of PEDs...wildly!!

    • @beefcake502
      @beefcake502 3 роки тому +2

      Spoken like someone who has never done a sport in their life

    • @stevest8675
      @stevest8675 3 роки тому +1

      Fact. Jones is a steroid goat. Lmao

    • @khabibmma9382
      @khabibmma9382 3 роки тому +3

      @Michael Robertson Jones is a PED cheat. PEDS are called enhancement drugs because they enhance your performance, and If you are milli-seconds faster than your opponent thats a great unfair advantage in a fight.

    • @khabibmma9382
      @khabibmma9382 3 роки тому +5

      @Michael RobertsonThat's a strawman's argument. No one is saying he has no talent. But It will never be known if he would have achieved what he has achieved without PEDS. Especially that his performance was awful after USADA. So there is a huge asterisk to his career.

  • @MrYobitttywannacrush
    @MrYobitttywannacrush Рік тому +8

    He perfected everything about Jon jones perfectly

  • @offBeatRock777
    @offBeatRock777 2 роки тому +2

    Shogun, rampage, Gustafson, Cormier, machida,
    Now there’s a resume

    • @beonowak6414
      @beonowak6414 14 днів тому

      chael rashad glover and gane too

  • @mohamedmourinou8204
    @mohamedmourinou8204 3 роки тому +87

    If Jones if the GOAT of MMA, then Lance Armstrong is the GOAT at cycling.

    • @clintdegen
      @clintdegen 3 роки тому +9

      but Lance is the GOAT at cycling. The other guys just didn't get caught.

    • @joshlasky8138
      @joshlasky8138 3 роки тому +1

      he is the best. who else in bicycle racing can you name that is a superstar.

    • @AhsanKhan-xf7vs
      @AhsanKhan-xf7vs 3 роки тому +1

      @@clintdegen lol

    • @Roxasthesupersaiyan
      @Roxasthesupersaiyan 3 роки тому

      Is Armstrong NOT the GOAT, though?

    • @JordansTake35
      @JordansTake35 3 роки тому +8

      Difference with Armstrong is all of the top 20 guys were juicing as well. Jon is juicing and fighting guys who are clean.

  • @tonygareth221
    @tonygareth221 3 роки тому +187

    There are different classes. Khabib and GSP are some of the best ever. AndersonSilva, Jon Jones, might mouse...all greats

    • @prodded._
      @prodded._ 3 роки тому +15

      see the things is that jon jones is one of the best ever no debate. No matter flaws being mentioned outside of the cage, there was no one that beat him inside of the cage period. You can’t argue that

    • @illiadmcswain3956
      @illiadmcswain3956 3 роки тому +8

      @@prodded._ yeah, overall...with all those fights and wins and his natural ability...I would have to give him that.
      But Khabib is the GOAT of the lightweight though, because of the nature of his wins.

    • @puccan479
      @puccan479 3 роки тому +2

      Mighty Mouse is just like kimbo. He shouldn’t be given credit until he fights in a cage against real determined skilled fighters.

    • @johnyk2010
      @johnyk2010 3 роки тому +2

      Gsp has a loss against sera and there's arguments to say he won fights that he should of lost and khabib has one style he hasn't got a stand up game. Where gsp,Jones, mighty mouse all have a accomplished a stand up game as well a ground game khabib is one of the most boring fighters to watch you know what his game plan where the others have the element of surprise to there game

    • @carlosurbina5517
      @carlosurbina5517 3 роки тому +1

      @@puccan479 Mighty Mouse beat Henry once, Henry cejudo is one of the most skilled fighters to ever walk in that octagon

  • @Carnitch
    @Carnitch Рік тому +4

    6:00 perfectly predicted the future, recency bias is most definitely real

  • @zohir6000
    @zohir6000 2 роки тому +8

    A decent and humble person who left his place clean, not like some clowns

  • @alexpickles6645
    @alexpickles6645 3 роки тому +176

    It’s gotta be khabib. He’s completely dominated EVERYONE in his path and there have been no drug use or drama

    • @ps9501
      @ps9501 3 роки тому +19

      Khabib has just 3 title defenses against primary strikers. Jon has more damn title fights than Khabib has even fights inside the UFC. Khabib was 15-0 and fought guy with 0-0 record, so his whole pre UFC is extremely padded.

    • @showkatali4896
      @showkatali4896 3 роки тому

      Neil Old and that fight is ??

    • @aunmaqsood3129
      @aunmaqsood3129 3 роки тому

      @James Matthews Nah if he dropped to lightweight at 155 definitely not, you high? With peds maybe, but again that's why he ain't the goat. I don't see Messi and Ronaldo needing to use any performance-enhancing drugs to be GOATS, apparently, this is only a MMA thing.

    • @aunmaqsood3129
      @aunmaqsood3129 3 роки тому

      ​@James Matthews You can't compare Jones and Khabib. That's why i said at 155 Khabib would beat him, because naturally jones can't really compete at that weight. Khabib at his division has dominated, no one can do it better. Jones also is great at his respective division, no one ever denies that. But he's not the GOAT, he used performance enhanced drugs and was caught. Khabib being a GOAT is debatable, but his fights aren't as one-dimensional as you think buddy. He's barely showed us his other skills, like his back, which he gave a taste of during the Gaethje fight.

    • @aunmaqsood3129
      @aunmaqsood3129 3 роки тому

      @James Matthews Oh I saw your other comment about Jones dropping to 155 and still beating Khabib, which is utterly stupid. Someone who has been wrestling bears will ever get beaten, haha! You're talking out of your ass here buddy, I was going to agree with you on some points until I realized how much of an idiot you were.

  • @michigangreen1915
    @michigangreen1915 3 роки тому +496

    Jon Jones used steroids. Case closed, he can’t be considered the greatest because we don’t know what he would have done without steroids.

    • @mounir9899
      @mounir9899 3 роки тому +6

      @Na tu there is drugs that are allowed and and there is that are prohibited

    • @Wizear11
      @Wizear11 3 роки тому +19

      Grain of Salt in Olympic sized swimming pool amount of steroids .. And they don't give you skills. Jon is youngest champ in history clean.

    • @nauvalfakhri
      @nauvalfakhri 3 роки тому +5

      I believe that does not translate to skills and fight IQ. I believe Jones is still a phenomenal fighter without steroids, let’s see his upcoming fights. Let’s see all of his fights, whether when he is accused of using steroids or not.

    • @Faiz_Azad-Khan
      @Faiz_Azad-Khan 3 роки тому

      @Fernando true but give you more power

    • @The_Bjorn
      @The_Bjorn 3 роки тому +3

      @@Wizear11 is it even a steroid tho? i really hate the internet for giving some of these people a voice. khabib is no doubt the most dominant right now but khabib has a resume of nobodies. DC, Cejudo and Stipe have a better history for goat status.

  • @eunolee4055
    @eunolee4055 8 місяців тому +1

    Jon Jones “I didn’t train”
    Khabib “My opponent cannot train enough”

  • @lelandc9763
    @lelandc9763 2 роки тому +6

    Khabib is probably the best. But when you say "goat" and "mma", GSP comes to my mind first and I have no arguement for putting him ahead of khabib or jones.

    • @bonez_206
      @bonez_206 2 роки тому +1

      He got knocked tf out and he also tapped tf out...
      Do u reconsider your stance now?

    • @defaultset
      @defaultset 2 роки тому

      @@bonez_206 In which he also knocked tf out and tapped tf out of the same people who did that to him after, losses don't matter unless if it affected the fighter themselves and made them worse. Boxing is probably the only sport that emphasizes the "iM unDeFeAtEd" thing so much. GSP lost some and then came back 10x better and won it back there's a reason it's called a 'record' it's just your history of fights, GSP when he lost is not as good as the GSP that avenged his loss. Being undefeated in the UFC is amazing because the competition's always spicy between two top contenders I'll give khabib that, but with your logic, everybody from the hall of fame other than khabib aren't good because they lost against opponents too? (Which were really good by the way)

  • @PantonePapi
    @PantonePapi 3 роки тому +329

    Hardest fight Khabib ever had in the UFC was with the scale. He’s the GOAT. Made every fighter look mediocre at best

    • @mezutzizu
      @mezutzizu 3 роки тому +15

      That's the reason he's so much stronger than his opponents. He cuts way too much weight, he should definitely fight at the division above

    • @afgankidd00
      @afgankidd00 3 роки тому +16

      @@mezutzizu bad take

    • @patstaysuckafreeboss8006
      @patstaysuckafreeboss8006 3 роки тому +10

      @@afgankidd00 Terrible take. Regardless I think he could still eat half the WWs

    • @rayu2794
      @rayu2794 3 роки тому +12

      Khabib has not fought enough championship fights in my eyes.

    • @michaelstollairetbarceo3287
      @michaelstollairetbarceo3287 3 роки тому +11

      Jon Jones 100%, anyone saying otherwise is suffering from recency bias.
      Staying on top for a decade, and defending as much as jones has done is a totally different game than looking very dominant and getting a few title defenses WHICH NUMEROUS FIGHTERS HAVE ALSO DONE.

  • @unknownseizure
    @unknownseizure 3 роки тому +118

    "who is the goat in mma"
    *It's obvious... It's cm punk*

  • @jorgesuarez9085
    @jorgesuarez9085 11 місяців тому +1

    funny how he said jones was gonna get his after heavyweight and he absolutely did that guy fucking predicted it flawlessly especially after winning and was hyped up to be the goat again… picture perfect prediction lmao

  • @tasadiri54
    @tasadiri54 2 роки тому +15

    The GOAT for me is not someone with the most win or title defences...It's someone who is best in his game and can make people fall in love with him with his nature and actions..N for me that is KHABIB

    • @LosHitman
      @LosHitman 2 роки тому +6

      Wrong Gsp is he did all that aswell

    • @Itsyourboy_ray
      @Itsyourboy_ray Рік тому +2

      first he has 13 ufc fights(all wins), but if you are talking about the 29 wins being impressive then you should take a look at a fighter called Dan Severn who has a record of 101-19-1. Now which is better, 29-0-0 or 101-19-1? The latter of course. However, the reason as to why Dan Severn is no way near the goat talk is because in the ufc he had 13 fights same as khabib but Dan's ufc record was 9-4-0 and never secured any belts. So yes Khabib's undefeated run is impressive but a mere 13 wins is nothing compared to gsp 13 title fight wins (26 wins overall) and jones 14 title fight wins (26 wins overall) and anderson silva 16 win streak (34 wins overall)
      title wins is what makes a goat in the mma world

    • @Itsyourboy_ray
      @Itsyourboy_ray Рік тому

      plus gsp is more humble and more of a mr nice guy which everyone loved than khabib

    • @Matteo8136n
      @Matteo8136n 2 місяці тому

      Same

  • @sahillsekhon3
    @sahillsekhon3 3 роки тому +807

    GSP wasn’t even in this conversation for GOAT lol okay amazing analysts we have.

    • @sittienakan1594
      @sittienakan1594 3 роки тому +47

      They should've added Fedor Emelianenko their too. Fedor was undefeated until he got sloppy.

    • @russellhattal3328
      @russellhattal3328 3 роки тому +121

      In fairness they were speaking more on the current pound for pound debacle.

    • @rajendragupta1943
      @rajendragupta1943 3 роки тому +99

      They don't know GSP is ur favorite

    • @omynemomynem7319
      @omynemomynem7319 3 роки тому +8

      Fedor is the goat , he should have retired sooner

    • @toastedt140
      @toastedt140 3 роки тому +4

      @@omynemomynem7319 Yeah Fedor hurt himself by coming over too late and staying too long. He'll always go done as the true peoples champ for me. He was strong without being ripped or jacked. Just more determined and clever than his opponents.

  • @PeterGriffingigity
    @PeterGriffingigity 3 роки тому +112

    "I'm impressed by your performance" -George St Pierre to Khabib

    • @edmontonlivermoore4935
      @edmontonlivermoore4935 3 роки тому +3

      GSP has nightmares about the time he said he wasn't impressed

    • @JACKYBWOII
      @JACKYBWOII 3 роки тому

      @@edmontonlivermoore4935 u mean he has wet dreams about those times... considering he won his next Hughes fight after saying that

    • @webb7903
      @webb7903 3 роки тому +3

      George is a true champion and gives credit when credit is due, he does not try to steal the lime light [like jon jones] or say something like what about me or look what I did.

    • @edmontonlivermoore4935
      @edmontonlivermoore4935 3 роки тому

      @@JACKYBWOII HAHAHAHAHA BRO XD

  • @arwenguitarplayer963
    @arwenguitarplayer963 Рік тому +5

    I give it to Kabib even tho I'm a bigger fan of Bones. The fact that Jon actually lost a couple and got gift wins. Kabib never lost at all. Not even close

  • @nahumhabte6210
    @nahumhabte6210 2 роки тому +2

    If Rogan gets Khabib on he must have DC with him! That would be soo good

  • @zairem4207
    @zairem4207 3 роки тому +77

    Why is John even in the conversation? Everyone knows he used performance drugs - he’s disqualified. Period.

    • @username6333
      @username6333 3 роки тому +4

      Everyone at the top level is on some sort of PEDs. Don't think people won't do everything possible when millions and millions of dollars are on the line.

    • @josephpalma743
      @josephpalma743 3 роки тому

      @Ruben Feneser so angry but funny!

    • @mikej9325
      @mikej9325 3 роки тому +3

      @@username6333 nah DC didn’t take shit

    • @brdolivadar
      @brdolivadar 3 роки тому +2

      Because Joe Rogan is Jones' little fangirl

    • @mosamoa6719
      @mosamoa6719 3 роки тому

      Cocaine is performance enhancing drugs😂