@@stickad_ Well, that's one aspect. It also requires a conscious effort on the part of the vibee to see if the viber's tone, body language, and other nonverbal signifiers are up to their standards. EDIT: Non-word signifiers. Tone is verbal lol.
@@DanielMemeSmith jan Misali's and Anthony McCarthy's argument about toki pona in the comment section of _Conlang Critic: Ido_ that argument has been memed a lot on jan Misali's channel since then (they've made two separate Rhythm Heaven parodies about it) basically, Anthony is arguing that toki pona isn't a language for a few reasons, one of which is its lack of speakers and written works, hence the quote _"Show me the bibliography."_
Can't wait for more toki pona videos! It's so nice to have a youtuber in the community who actually does the research and participates, but also isn't just a learning resource, like you were saying
Today is day 10 of my Toki Pona journey. Two days ago, I received my copies of pu and ku from Amazon. Your 1st video was amazingly helpful. My attempts at Journaling mirror yours. Journaling with the glyphs really struck a cord with me! I have already purchased my journal. Since 2nd grade, I have been a fan of the Oz books. L. Frank Baum wrote 14 before he passed. Ruth Plumly Thompson wrote an additional 14 before she passed. And I have read all of them! So when you said that su is The Wizard of Oz written in glyphs, you just sent my motivation through the roof! Thank you so very much for both of your videos!!!
lipu su li lon a! IAs you highlight, most conlangs are used to talk about the conlang itself, and it is awesome that su ain't like that and brings more toki pona content to the world. It's fantastic that there's more and more stories in toki pona and content which doesn't just focus on the mechanics of the language itself (selfish plug: I myself run a toki pona VLog here). I 100% agree that The Wizard of Oz is an absolutely perfect story to kick start a book series. So, everyone, go and get your copy of the book! o su!
One of the best ways to learn a language is to practice by consuming media! More toki pona books would be a great way to help and expand the community!
I feel like a neat book idea that could utilize toki pona for its narrative would be for a pseudo dairy, where the narrator is intentionally narrating their life in toki pona as a means of privacy, or in a story where two characters who are super close use the language for personal communication. Idk, the use of such an obscure language makes me think of themes regarding privacy, deep bonds, and opening up to new people.
yea i realized i could've phrased that better, my original intention was to be saying "tawa pona" as in sonja was leaving the convo, but i realize now it looks more like the other way around
ehh it still works without an explicit "mi tawa" to respond to, as long as the other party is in fact going to tawa (which i don't think a lipu can :p)
@@qwaabza are you familiar with tokiponist UA-camr jan Misali, and their show Conlang Critic? Find the episode on the language ido and go to the comments. It’s a wild ride.
in the past, ku suli has shaped what words have gotten more or less prevalent based on what was categorized as "ku suli", establishing the 137 core words, so mi la, there's 139 core words in toki pona now! (+ su and majuna) as nimi su
I had heard about Toki Pona a really long time ago and since then I were interested in it. But I never really tried to learn it and I think that after watching your videos I will
sina wile pali e toki pona tu tenpo ni Also I am SO EXCITED for su! Now I'm wondering what all the other titles will be used for... (ju, lu, nu, u) I hope you have a fun time reading the book Oats!
It's a comparison that you see people mention a lot at first glance, but really it's not actually close at all. toki pona gives you a deeper understanding of the things you talk about, by focusing on describing the important parts instead of having tons of set jargon. Newspeak was created to have very rigid and specific meanings to make certain ideas impossible. Really the only thing in common is that they're small
(Bc en is not and, you can't use it to link concepts - "su ni en tenpo kama la su ante" would be interpreted as "with regards to this su and the coming time, different su", which also works!) Thank you for this one too :D yayyyyyy su yippee friends mentioned Yayyy
there's another issue, in "nasin pali e su", e doesn't just make modifiers or other words into having their transitive verb meanings and doesn't really make sense gramatically if it's not in a full sentence, not in standard nasins of toki pona anyways. (the concept of a verb form that functions as a noun (which in english is with -ing) doesn't exist in toki pona, you just use the noun meaning) as you probably know, the correct term there would instead be "nasin pi pali su", which instead of "way of creating this book", literally means "way of creation of this book", which essentially says the same thing.
So, the book titles, pu ku su...that makes up tokiponafication of the word 'books', right? I remember reading rice boy when it was first coming out, so cool that he's illustrating this too! mi wili lukin e su!
First of all, it's tokiponization. Second, no, that's a myth. The word pu was created for unknown reasons, but then jan Sonja decided to rhyme all her books with pu, creating ku and su, but if you look at the ku book, it will show you that future books will be known as ju, lu, nu, and u. This means that pukusu isn't the full version of the series. Once ju, lu, nu, and u are taken, I don't know what the future books might be called, but who knows, it could be ඞu...
considering how learning toki pona took a month creating a whole conlang that at the very least isn't smaller than toki pona would probably take more than that
By now we could say that "oto jenkins"(Toki pona but with english souds) editor or he(if he doesn't have an editor) is a one piece fan or just a watcher
4:25 you can't put "la" in a subject. What you wrote is more like "in the context of this su and the coming time, different su," which doesn't make much sense. I think what you're going for would be more like "su ni li lon. su ante li kama"
Should Toki Pona become the official human language in your World #2 ? Everyone keep their nice language (not all sound nice, but still) but the universal language is Toki Pona.
i remember 1 or 2 videos ago, you mentioned fixing football. i know you are a busy man, but i would like to recommend the web series 17776 for that, it makes a lot of modifications to american football that you might want to look at.
Oats you always pass the vibe check.
I agree! sina li pana e pilin pona tawa jan ale 😊
What’s that in English
@@ocallaghanocallaghan7949If you translate it literally, it means "he gives a good feeling towards everybody"
@@stickad_ Well, that's one aspect. It also requires a conscious effort on the part of the vibee to see if the viber's tone, body language, and other nonverbal signifiers are up to their standards. EDIT: Non-word signifiers. Tone is verbal lol.
@@stickad_ thx for the translation 🙂 I didn’t see it fast enough lol
jan Sonja referencing "show me the bibliography" is not something i realised i needed in my life
i almost missed it
Yesssss
Where did that quote come from i can't find it
@@DanielMemeSmith jan Misali's and Anthony McCarthy's argument about toki pona in the comment section of _Conlang Critic: Ido_
that argument has been memed a lot on jan Misali's channel since then (they've made two separate Rhythm Heaven parodies about it)
basically, Anthony is arguing that toki pona isn't a language for a few reasons, one of which is its lack of speakers and written works, hence the quote _"Show me the bibliography."_
im an esparantist the conlang with the largest
thank u for dealing with my even more mistakes i made in this video haha,, i'm still on the learning journey and it's all very fun :)
Im first!
omg im second!!111!!!1!!!
im thinking of learning toki pona as well, it seems really cool!
Eee
Banan pudding
Ajaija
Can't wait for more toki pona videos! It's so nice to have a youtuber in the community who actually does the research and participates, but also isn't just a learning resource, like you were saying
4:55 giving sonjalang her own chair is such a cute detail
Today is day 10 of my Toki Pona journey. Two days ago, I received my copies of pu and ku from Amazon.
Your 1st video was amazingly helpful. My attempts at Journaling mirror yours. Journaling with the glyphs really struck a cord with me! I have already purchased my journal.
Since 2nd grade, I have been a fan of the Oz books. L. Frank Baum wrote 14 before he passed. Ruth Plumly Thompson wrote an additional 14 before she passed. And I have read all of them!
So when you said that su is The Wizard of Oz written in glyphs, you just sent my motivation through the roof!
Thank you so very much for both of your videos!!!
ðe crossing of hyperfixations
Fun Fact: In Minecraft, if you go to options, and then language, toki pona is actually one of the languages!
yeah ik
This is only true on Java edition iirc
@@felixroux it is
sona ni li ike suli
i actually love it sm. theres also a sitelen pona texture pack.
@@omekapo Cool!
lipu su li lon a! IAs you highlight, most conlangs are used to talk about the conlang itself, and it is awesome that su ain't like that and brings more toki pona content to the world. It's fantastic that there's more and more stories in toki pona and content which doesn't just focus on the mechanics of the language itself (selfish plug: I myself run a toki pona VLog here). I 100% agree that The Wizard of Oz is an absolutely perfect story to kick start a book series. So, everyone, go and get your copy of the book! o su!
I hope some time in the future that the Egyptian bird glyph would be added to toki pona
FIRST
THIRD
you can add it yourself
*w a s o*
new waso glyph just dropped
One of the best ways to learn a language is to practice by consuming media! More toki pona books would be a great way to help and expand the community!
I feel like a neat book idea that could utilize toki pona for its narrative would be for a pseudo dairy, where the narrator is intentionally narrating their life in toki pona as a means of privacy, or in a story where two characters who are super close use the language for personal communication. Idk, the use of such an obscure language makes me think of themes regarding privacy, deep bonds, and opening up to new people.
This is so smart!
I started learning toki pona about ten days ago. Very satisfying. And it's changing the way I think about English.
SUPER EXCITED for this new book!
YES! This will be Oat's legacy in the Toki Pona community
OH I just realized you’re ðe “I fixed ðe Alphabet” guy, also stellar video
"tawa pona" is a response to "mi tawa" and not standalone "Goodbye", but only if the other says "mi tawa" (I am going) you say "tawa pona" (go good).
yea i realized i could've phrased that better, my original intention was to be saying "tawa pona" as in sonja was leaving the convo, but i realize now it looks more like the other way around
ehh it still works without an explicit "mi tawa" to respond to, as long as the other party is in fact going to tawa (which i don't think a lipu can :p)
@@hecko-yes referring to a phone as a lipu is the best thing i've heard all month
@@thecoolkittensarecool that's a phone‽
@@hecko-yes wait are you talking about three giant phone-shaped screen with jan Sonja's pfp on it?????
Because of this video i'm gonna start to learn toki pona this week
6:30 “Like they say, ‘show me the bibliography’”
The scream I scrame.
*scrumt
*scrome
SAMEEE
(can anyone explain?)
@@qwaabza are you familiar with tokiponist UA-camr jan Misali, and their show Conlang Critic?
Find the episode on the language ido and go to the comments. It’s a wild ride.
the biggest thing i got out of this is that jan Sonja knows about anthony mccarthy's comment thread
edit: oh my bazinga she likes majuna
1:04 I know it’s jokes but the little HAI jab is kinda funny
I still quote so many of the errors in that video “poki loje lon sinpin li poki tawa” is my favorite though
in the past, ku suli has shaped what words have gotten more or less prevalent based on what was categorized as "ku suli", establishing the 137 core words, so
mi la, there's 139 core words in toki pona now! (+ su and majuna) as nimi su
I had heard about Toki Pona a really long time ago and since then I were interested in it. But I never really tried to learn it and I think that after watching your videos I will
sina wile pali e toki pona tu tenpo ni
Also I am SO EXCITED for su! Now I'm wondering what all the other titles will be used for... (ju, lu, nu, u)
I hope you have a fun time reading the book Oats!
Well, once ju, lu, nu, and u are already taken, then what's next? ඞu?
@@anitakph1231 yu (yupekosi reference)
To be honest the language sounds like newspeak form 1984 but not used to suppress people speech and thoughts
Ive heard it described aa "Lib-left Newspeak" before, couldnt tell you wherw
there are a lot of straight up anarchists in the community so i find the comparisons to newspeak very funny
It's a comparison that you see people mention a lot at first glance, but really it's not actually close at all. toki pona gives you a deeper understanding of the things you talk about, by focusing on describing the important parts instead of having tons of set jargon. Newspeak was created to have very rigid and specific meanings to make certain ideas impossible. Really the only thing in common is that they're small
Newspeak allows for few specific words, while Toki Pona allows for few general words.
we do joke about newspeak quite a bit but they're not equivalent because they have completely opposite goals and philosophies
(Bc en is not and, you can't use it to link concepts - "su ni en tenpo kama la su ante" would be interpreted as "with regards to this su and the coming time, different su", which also works!)
Thank you for this one too :D yayyyyyy su yippee friends mentioned Yayyy
there's another issue, in "nasin pali e su", e doesn't just make modifiers or other words into having their transitive verb meanings and doesn't really make sense gramatically if it's not in a full sentence, not in standard nasins of toki pona anyways. (the concept of a verb form that functions as a noun (which in english is with -ing) doesn't exist in toki pona, you just use the noun meaning)
as you probably know, the correct term there would instead be "nasin pi pali su", which instead of "way of creating this book", literally means "way of creation of this book", which essentially says the same thing.
lmao trying to decode what he was saying hurted my brain a little but i guess it technically gets the message across
REALEST VID!! 0:45 TRUEST WORDS!!! i literally screamed multiple times during this video out of excitement
jan Sonja thank you for this beautiful language
Oats always passes the vibe check of my heart ❤
So, the book titles, pu ku su...that makes up tokiponafication of the word 'books', right? I remember reading rice boy when it was first coming out, so cool that he's illustrating this too! mi wili lukin e su!
wile*, actually
First of all, it's tokiponization. Second, no, that's a myth. The word pu was created for unknown reasons, but then jan Sonja decided to rhyme all her books with pu, creating ku and su, but if you look at the ku book, it will show you that future books will be known as ju, lu, nu, and u. This means that pukusu isn't the full version of the series.
Once ju, lu, nu, and u are taken, I don't know what the future books might be called, but who knows, it could be ඞu...
I just watched the first Toki Pona video :D I'm sure this vid is also going to be super great and well made, like all of your vids :)
jan Sonja making a anthony mcarthy reference at 6:30 is crazy
Toki Pona should be the global world language...
WOOOOO!!!! Wicked & Son of a Witch in Toki Pona. LETS GOOOOOO!
Before my brother died, he spoke it and he taught me.
May he rest in peace ❤🕊️
The cut off subscribe at the end got me cracked up🤣
honestly really wanna learn toki pona just from watching you lol
pona a! toki pona li musi. sina o sona e toki pona
o kama sona!
i olin sina oats jenkins 😍
mi pilin pona! mi wile video sama ni! (This is cool! I want similar videos to this!)
I’m subscribing in the hope of future Toki Pona:)
Toki pona actually means talk good in english since talk good is toki pona in toki pona language
New poki tona content
I’m already loving it! 😍 ❤❤
I don't think I would've been recommended your Toki Pona video if I hadn't already seen Sam's Toki Pona video.
WAKE UP PEOPLE NEW OATS VIDEO i'm very excited
you could even say "i'm a bit excited"
@@CarMedicine wow
@@qwnrfbfuiebf (itt's a jan Misali reference)
We need The little prince in this language!
It´s beas book for learning a language
would love more toki pona videos
Dang this is oats? Havent seen you in a while
wdym he posted six days ago
@@DamianVo-s9p Yea but i havent seen his videos in a while
PLEASE make a series where you teach us Toki Pona.
0:28 İ need that plushie right there right now.
4:09 I got cuirious and checked ao3, there's some fanfics written in toki pona. I wasn't expecting that
Omg, i love your videos
Me watching this while gaming 😎
Not even a toki pona Speaker but you pass the vide test.
You should try your hand at making a conlang, it can be a lot of fun
considering how learning toki pona took a month creating a whole conlang that at the very least isn't smaller than toki pona would probably take more than that
I only came back to rewatch this video because I forgot the name of The Wizard of Oz.
Toki Pona numbers idea:
1 wan
2 tu
3 is now tee
4 for
5 luka
6 eks
7 sepe
8 oca
9 nona
10 dek
If somebody hasnt made a song with toki pona than they totally should
I just ordered it.
It's coming tomorrow.
I'm waiting for the "fixing toki pona" video
you need to make more toki pona vids
I think my mum would like this.
Oats should make his own language because it would be right
Tokì Pōñā!
By now we could say that "oto jenkins"(Toki pona but with english souds) editor or he(if he doesn't have an editor) is a one piece fan or just a watcher
"show me the bibliography" LMAO
real jan toki pona mute understand
I don't get it
No way this earth 2 is gonna be W I L D
Yo i love your vids!
Toki Pona should be the official language for whatever unclaimed lands there are (there’s one in Africa one somewhere else)
Make Oats Jenkins 2.( you could do it after fixing the world also u can take however time you need )
Here before this blows up
How about we make new sitelen pona rule. everytime a sentence ends, we add bird of egypt.
I can't wait for dialect
Mein Gott he looks so different with a beard
it's incredibñe!!
4:25 you can't put "la" in a subject. What you wrote is more like "in the context of this su and the coming time, different su," which doesn't make much sense. I think what you're going for would be more like "su ni li lon. su ante li kama"
You also keep stressing the second syllable of words sometimes
day 4 of asking oat to make florida colder for episode 2
i have a very good idea to simplify numbers, you just need to add numbers, from high to low, wich can help way to much to summarize the topic.
Under 8352 years gang👇
Me
Me
@@GabiSpivak Congrats! You get a -27 cent prize!
No one 💀💀💀💀
Me
I predict the next Toki Pona novelettes will be Alice in Wonderland or The Little Prince.
Should Toki Pona become the official human language in your World #2 ? Everyone keep their nice language (not all sound nice, but still) but the universal language is Toki Pona.
Imagine getting a Toki Pona Bible (or any Holy Book)
6:29 where are the new radio shows though?
4:37 “e” marks the object of a sentence. You might want to say “nasin pali su” instead.
Reminds me of Udlejks a language i made up for a game
Imma learn this language.
o kama sona! toki pona li pona tawa mi li pona tawa jan nasa mute mute
Nice you would always pass the vibe sheck 🤑👍
Good morning oats
yo! toki ni li pona tan ni!
Fix sport, fix space, fix planets, fix universe, fix stars, fix solar system, fix the internet, fix animals
yo theres a conlang with 6 words i watched it before but i forgot the name
one of the words was ka and yes all of the words are two letters
new toki pona vid when?
i remember 1 or 2 videos ago, you mentioned fixing football. i know you are a busy man, but i would like to recommend the web series 17776 for that, it makes a lot of modifications to american football that you might want to look at.
i just got the toki pona book.
toki jans! seme ah jan nimi pini jan tommy lukined e ah jan li moku e ike loje kala ni moku?
I like the slowpoke.
it's MAjuna, stress on the first syllable
Very nice!
Facilish when (it’s a language with two words)
Like the beard!😎
6:30 WAS THAT A NEW RADIO SHOWS REFERENCE
lipu su li epiku :D
ni su li lon
@@MSKofAlexandria lipu su li lon
Kijetesantakalu