I think the international language of the world should be welsh, it has incredibly easy pronunciation, and is already widely spoken by over 100 people!
As a Welsh person I absolutely agree. For some people like me in South Wales barely speak the language or more commonly not at all. What fools they are. Welsh is the most useful and powerful language in the world.
For the world language I suggest Army Slavic. Army Slavic is a language created by the Austro - Hungarian Empire to make communication between the different Slavic people within the Army easier. It consists of about 80 words that are almost exclusively useful for pre WW2 Warfare, which is the simplicity a world language needs.
Picking a language that is mostly used for warfare doesn't seem like that great of an idea, but I guess we already picked American English for that one. 😂
Let's gather one person from each country in the world who don't speak any other languages than their native one to an inhabited island and let them live there until they develop the ultimate international language
Probably that experiment wouldn't result in one single international language, it would actually just form multiple groups of people who speak similar languages and these groups would form their own dialects. You'd have the romance languages speakers forming a group of their own, slavic language speakers forming another group, scandinavians forming another, English and Arabic speakers would probably only interact with those who speak their own language, since many countries speak these ones, and those who speak languages that are "isolated" like the person from Hungary, the one from Finland and etc. would either have to learn another language during the experiment or they'd simply be lonely
The international language should be Finnish. No-one speaks it as a first language and it's hard enough to learn that anyone who can speak it should be worth talking to.
And what's wrong with that? When you learn a natural language there's no guarantee that you can find a community. The only kind of people who learn Esperanto are those who want to join a friendly international space. It may not be useful but learning languages isn't just about "business" or "travel." But there is a service where esperanto speakers host follow esperantists for cheaper so that's something I guess.
funner even fact: China government still subsidize the Esperanto teaching and learning from the Mao days in which there really believes speak it will be the future.
I had no real problems learning Esperanto as a first foreign language. It didnt take long and gave me a great basis for other languages. Instead of going through trying to understand new concepts, I could just spend a little time learning Esperanto and go "Oh, this concept in this language is like this in Esperanto". I've gotten way more out of Esperanto than French or Spanish. It just depends what you do.
Somewhat agree. I actually found it easier to learn Spanish in my second language French, rather than my first language, English, because the word order of Spanish and French is amazingly similar. So, it's easy to think in Spanish using French. I think you would have been better off learning one Romance language well, then learning the subsequent romance languages off your first one. It didn't surprise me that on UA-cam there are actually instructors in French teaching Spanish and vice versa!
The perfect lingua franca would be a mix of the most final boss languages, Polish and Finnish with a little hint of a very niche language like Luxembourgish, topped with some Chinese grammar and Danish pronunciation. Just fantastic.
As a Spanish speaker, I support calling Esperanto "Spanish 2" but only after we give it our always useful and supereasy to learn verb conjugations! Esperanto totally needs two imperfect subjunctive forms!
esperanto killed my family and forced me to complete the esperanto course on duolingo and have a 6 hour conversation in esperanto with 10 different people. overall i'd give it a 8/10.
I learnt Esperanto and discovered I could already read French, which I took up in turn. So, not a wasted venture. Also it has helped in part with my German and Greek. Also living in a new state I met a group by the Esperanto shirt a gentleman was wearing. This gave me an immediate group. Also.. great for sci fi lovers as you can understand obscure comments in Gattaca, Blade 3, Red Dwarf and so on. So for me it has been very positive and easy.
As an Esperantophile I completely agree with your opinion, Esperanto has ruined my life. Esperanto took away my wife, my children and most importantly, my will to learn new languages.
Ĉu vere? Mi ankoraŭ lernas lingvojn. Ili ĉiuj ŝajnas malpli bonaj, tro komplikaj, tro malfacilaj, kaj eĉ malbelaj kompare al E-o, sed malgraŭ tio, mi daŭre ĝuas lerni ilin.
@@Beau_Rivage What I said was: ¿En serio? Yo todavía aprendo idiomas. Comparado al Esperanto, parecen menos buenos, demasiado complicados, demasiado difíciles, e incluso feos, pero a pesar de eso, todavía disfruto aprenderlos. Hope that's accommodating enough for you. 如果你还不懂我可以用中文说
The international languages should be English & Dutch, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever - Welsh is a pretty language as well, so it should be taught in school as one of the optional Celtic languages, so everyone should also learn at least one Celtic language and at least one Latin language!
As a Russian speaker I would like to say that Russian and Italian languages (and also Portuguese) have similar system of sounds, so for us it's much easier to pronounce than English, for example. And vice versa.
@@tobyalder42true, but the sound qualities are the most important thing. Russian doesn't have a distinction between i, like in ship, and e like in sheep, for example, so we never sound natural when saying these two words. And th and s sounds in one word still appear in my nightmares, even though for a russian I'm a f-ing 😱EENOSTRANYETS😱 with my ~B2. Or maybe it's B1. I once scored C1-C2 on an online test😂, but that was definitely bullsh*t.
@@ldmtag Actually, Russian does have that distinction, many speakers just don't realise it. Russian "и" is pronounced differently in stressed and unstressed positions, according to the IPA (which may not be fully accurate, though) the sounds are like in English, "i" and "ɪ". A Russian speaker would pronounce, for example, English "benign" more or less correctly, but he would pronounce incorrectly Italian "benigno"
@@tobyalder42 yes, that's correct. But most of the unstressed Иs are the same, and most of the stressed Иs are the same as well. Doesnt help with ship/sheed distinction.
Challennge for Language Simp: Create your own Language with these rules -Grammar should be as simplistic as possible with no gender, conjugations, cases etc. (Like chinese) -Alphabet should be pictures so it looks cool and not American (Like Korean) -No homophones or homonyms allowed -No synonyms allowed -The alphabet will probably be bigger than korean in order to have more sounds and therefore easier not to create homonyms -Words are created with the given alphabet by the community where it is tracked which words already exist and which sounds are already taken -Buy a huge plot of land somewhere -Only people who pass a standardised language test in made up language is allowed to live there -Then the language will evolve from there
toki pona is pretty close with it's 120 sitelen pona (its """alphabet"""), has no cases, and all synonyms are the same word. it also has a community where people develop the language and add new words and reanalyse old words and just speak the language.
@@notwithouttext Its grammar still isn't as simple as it could be, and it is VERY ambiguous. Toki Pona is better than Esperanto but still far from functional.
One feature I love about Esperanto is its agglutination. The book La Bona Lingvo shows how you can be very expressive in Esperanto. It has a lot of words but you can also express complex concepts with a smaller vocabulary. It makes the language able to express a lot of nuance and be more brief. An entire clause can become just one word thanks to affixes and grammar. You can use compound words easily. In other languages, you need to memorise thousands of words. In Esperanto, you need about a thousand and a handful of prefixes and suffixes to do the same.
@@nsf001-3 Yes. That always reminded me of the coeliac disease 😅. I guess coeliac disease sufferers can only speak analytic languages, then. *EDIT:* Also; I guess people, who are allergic to glue, as well.
which is something that languages such as Japanese and Turkish have. I know enough Japanese to get around but when words get long it can be confusing as to what is being said. For example a sentence that goes "Can I be forced to confess to that crime?" It's a difficult thing to both express and understand exactly in Japanese. For me anyway.
German can be agglutinative, too. Perhaps not as much as Esperanto, or in the same way, but still... My favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän." Means "Danube steamship company captain." My second favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajutenschlüssel." Means "Key to the Danube steamship company captain's cabin."
If you want to learn a useless Romance language, why not choose something badass like Latin?? They also have a community of nerds who will welcome you!
Not Python. Humans won't apply significant whitespace correctly, see below. I'm with the semicolons and curly brackets. The Piano {was sold to the lady} with carved legs
3:20 "It just has too many words" - Oh ? I've got a language that can solve that. "It should only have a few hundred words" - OH ?? "And that's why I think toki pona should be the international language instead" - AYYYYYYYY
I've been learning Esperanto recently and I agree with a lot of this, but I'm just learning it because it's something unique and interesting to put on a college application/scholarship.
Many people start learning it by linguistic curiosity and then find out that it is so interesting to connect with Esperanto speakers all over the world
There was once, not so long ago, a language like Esperanto that was actually used and actually did what it was supposed to. It's called the Chinook Jargon, or Chinuk Wawa. It may not sound too pretty, but it developed naturally out of contact between Natives and European traders and was used as far up the West Coast as southern Alaska. There's even a tribe that still continues to use it (Grand Ronde in Oregon), who publishes a really info-packed text book in which you can learn all 500 of the language's root words. Tl;dr, Chinook Jargon did it better just by being a naturally-developed contact language.
I'll save people's time by summarizing this video: -He thinks few people speak it = useless -It's Eurocentric (as if English isn't) -Too hard to learn (This is how you know he's just making stuff up)
This is what I've done with Esperanto: - Traveled and was hosted by Esperanto speakers in different countries; - I hosted Esperanto backpackers from different nationalities in my house and we practiced other languages; - Been to Esperanto meetings in my town, watched cultural lectures with people from other countries, had some nice exchange with people; - Been to an international congress with hundreds of people from all continents; - We spent one week at a hotel with all those people, full immersion, music, cultural events, crazy parties, night clubs, restaurants... everything in Esperanto. - In the congress, I've seen all sorts of weird people: spiritualists, atheists, gays, vegans, Buddhists, old wise men that look like beggars, Linux users... Esperanto attracts such weirdos! One thing is sure: you won't get bored. - One night at 3 in the morning we were with a group of Esperantists on the beach "moon bathing"... all naked! The atmosphere was like in this video: ua-cam.com/video/H_OYn6PZKpw/v-deo.html Apart from that, yeah, I'd say learning Esperanto is almost totally useless. If you want a language for your career, studies, for sitting down and wait speakers to walk by... Esperanto is a no. However, you could learn it just as mental gymnastics, like people play chess, knit, spend hundreds of hours on social media and play video games... so why not Esperanto? You need to be some sort of adventurer, backpacker and have a certain degree of detachment to enjoy Esperanto to the fullest. At the congress, I bought this book "Ili vivis sur la tero" (They lived on Earth - eight years of migration around our planet). It's the amazing story of a couple who circled the planet speaking Esperanto and meeting Esperanto people. They say: When all your belongings for eight years fit in a backpack, you realize that the joy of life is not about what you have, but really about what you are. So yeah, you have to be a bit crazy to study and enjoy Esperanto and its philosophy. Some correct information: - You will find Esperanto groups perhaps in all major cities around the world, much more than for most natural languages with millions of speakers. - Esperanto is not among the most spoken languages, but it’s definitely among the most studied languages. I’ve conduced some polls in international forums, it ranked among the top 10. We can confirm that with Duolingo, there were times when Esperanto learners were more than a million, more than most of their courses. - It’s actually against the goal of Esperanto to be the language of a specific place. - Esperanto looks European on the surface, but it shares similarities with Oriental languages in the structure, as pointed out by linguist Claude Piron. - China is one of the world’s greatest supporters of Esperanto. Even the official webpage of the Chinese government has an Esperanto version. - Its rich vocabulary allows it to be used in Science and the most refined Literature. An international language must be able to share world knowledge. But that still makes it easier than natural languages - making new words and concepts is like playing with Lego. - English hasn’t become international because of its culture, or because of its intrinsic linguistic properties. It has become international for one chief reason: political and military power. (David Crystal, author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language).
Saluton! Mi eklernis Esperanton kaj mi estas komencanto. Mi ŝatus renkonti novajn homojn por praktiki Esperanton... Ĉu vi povus helpi min? Mi konas neniun, kiu parolas Esperanton.
"We can confirm that with Duolingo, there were times when Esperanto learners were more than a million, more than most of their courses" So where are these millions of fluent Esperanto speakers from Duolingo?
I think the name "esperanto" comes from the root that means "hope" in romance languages. For exemple in france it's "esperance", and i'm pretty sure it's similar in spanish
Of course. In fact, 'esperanto' is (in Esperanto) a participle meaning 'one who hopes', just as, say, 'kantanto' means 'one who sings'. The creator of the language signed his first publications as "Dro Esperanto" = "the hopeful doctor", and his pen-name stuck to the language (which he himself had simply named Lingvo internacia).
@@angelostsirimokos8104By the way, another English word for "one who hopes" is "aspirant," so I don't know why people don't say the obvious "Esperanto means aspirant" and instead dance around it with primitive caveman English.
Interesting fact: Since the time of Onisaburo Deguchi, the constructed language Esperanto has played a major role in the japanese Oomoto religion. Starting in 1924, the religion has published books and magazines in Esperanto and this continues today. It is said that they introduced Esperanto when they had contact with the Baháʼí Faith in 1921. A famous practitioner of the Oomoto faith is Morihei Ueshiba, founder of the martial art Aikido.
@@andrewwitcombe-small3713 Same. Also; I expected Aikido to be much older (by, like, several centuries); but it’s actually about on par with Sambo, by the looks of it.
People: Create an artificial language to make it easier to communicate with each other Also people: Continue to communicate in English and don’t use Esperanto People who learned Esperanto:
Italian was chosen as a model for pronunciation because it has the simplest phonology out of all extant languages. So a good model for one who's trying to make his language as simple as possible, wouldn't you think?
I like how the phonology is purported to be super easy and intuitive to use, yet the most spoken language that contains all phonemes Esperanto contains is Polish, which coincidentally happens to be Zamenhof's native language.
When I was very young I wanted to learn Esperanto because I read a children's book about languages that left me with the impression that Esperanto was the language of the future. How many Esperanto activists begged you not to make this video?
I learned English as my second language young. But I gave up on learning esperanto the moment I realized how different it is from what I know and how little people speak it.
Same as me, I found about it in a children's book about communication, and fell in love with the idea. Took me many years, but finally got to learning it, and I thank my inner child for keeping that memory alive for so long, despite all the people who tried to disuade me.
@@frechjo The children's book from which I found out about Esperanto was called "The Language Book" by Franklin Folsom. I also learned about the Code Talkers from reading that book.
@@tmhc72_gtg22c Oh, cool, you even remember the name :) I can't remember what my book was called (something in Spanish), but it was about communication in general (not languages specifically). It's amazing how those little things can stay with us forever! Lucky for us, our parents cared about and were able to widen our worlds like that.
Basque should honestly be the de facto language of the entire world because it's not (as far as we know) related to any other language on Earth, meaning that everyone will have an equally difficult time trying to learn it.
I think Icelandic should be the lingua de franca of the whole world. It’s incredibly simple (I learned it when I was only a baby) and everyone around me speaks it. Besides, who doesn’t want to sound like a badass viking. First class will be learning the voiceless alveolar lateral affricate.
The big superiority term adore and the numbers must be edited out, such words and numbers only reflect me The Goddess and cannot be misused by ppl in any way in yt names or names or in comments etc - adore is love related term, and love related terms only reflect me the only lovable being, and one should use words such as like or find this language pretty etc, not words such as adore or love! Astral terms such as Sol and words such as ber also cannot be misused in names or yt names and must be changed - only we pure / superior beings (me & the pure protectors aka the alphas) reflect astral terms / names / items etc!
The international languages should be English & Dutch & Old Norse, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever, and Norwegian is also one of the prettiest ever! Icelandic is also gorgeous and I am learning it, but Old Norse is a bit easier to read and it looks a bit more refined because it doesn’t have those extra Us before the last Rs / consonants, so it’s more suitable to be an universal language - but everyone should learn both Icelandic and Old Norse, and the other main Nordic / Germanic languages! Esperanto is a nice language, not the prettiest Latin language, but still nice enough to learn, so it’s on my list of languages I want to learn and improve, and it’s similar to Spanish & Latin, and the word Esperanto is nice and fits the language well, so what this video says isn’t true at all, probably just parody!
A friend of mine was Canada's ambassador to Iceland and he told me that Icelandic is very challenging for English speakers, but I told him Japanese would probably come in at a close second.
Esperanto gets so much unnecessary hate. I think ppl should just have fun with the language. Even if it doesn’t ever achieve it’s goal purpose I think it’s still cool to learn and honestly I wish more people around my age spoke it. I feel like it would be so fun to be able to communicate with more people in Esperanto
Ive never understood the resistance to learning it. People are willing to learn “useless” languages all the time like Pig Latin or gibberish to communicate but a actual structured language they want nothing to do with. Add in the fact that its easy to learn and actually helps speed up learning other languages and I still don’t see why its hated.
@@amadeosendiulo2137 ofc the countries with 1 billion and 200 million people are going to have at least a few people who joined the esperanto cult, that proves nothing
Duolingo is awesome. It helped me with French from zero to b1. Duo made it easy and fun. I also read and watched in French, and watched French teachers on UA-cam. Duo did the most important part. It helped me to start the process and understand the basics.
Perhaps at first Esperanto did fulfill the function for which it was created, but currently most speakers already know that Esperanto does not work as a lingua franca, I, for example, am learning it because it is an easy way to learn vocabulary and understand how many other languages work, I believe that the use of vocabulary from European languages (Spanish, English, French...), is due to the fact that European languages are the most widespread in the world, and in this way it is intended that is the easiest thing for most to learn. PD: In Poland there is a town with native speakers, but it is not a big town
@@Ivacraft to be fair it's only one, and they also speak english and arabic, and aren't fluent, but just look up "toki pona native speaker" with eriksealader, who taught his child toki pona (not the oziji ones because those are just skits),
Attic/Koine Greek is the only Lingua Franca there ever was, and ever needs to be. The simple act of learning Attic Greek automatically makes you a better than others. This is clearly the only option for a world language.
« It’s written in the American alphabet » (referring to the Latin alphabet) « We invented democracy » (δῆμος+ κράτος) Ancient Greeks and Romans would be like: 🤨
The ancient Greek “Democracy” is not the kind of democracy that survives today. Their “democracy” was very different (for example, only the male warrior class had any real power) with our modern democracy having derived more directly from the Native Americans. See the Iroquois Confederacy and the “5 civilized tribes”
@@flightlesschicken7769 Yes, but still, you cannot say «we invented democracy» like that. I mean, it’s obviously wrong. Maybe « we contributed to its current state, but not «invented»
@@LeoBloom-kc4iv well, yeah. I wouldn’t say that Americans invented democracy. I also wouldn’t say the Greeks did under our modern definition of democracy either. But the word sure does trace its existence back to the ancient Greek and something sort of resembling our modern democracy was used by some ancient Greeks
I think personally we should keep english as the lingua franca of the world. Not only is it the most widely learned language, but it is also a mix of all other major global languages. If you look at the other most spoken languages around the world, you would have Spanish, portuguese, French and German, all of which have a huge chunk of speakers. If you speak any of these languages, you will already have quite easy to learn English. Me myself am Swedish, but already when I were a kid and didn't know english, I could still understand some basic words and sometimes entire sentences in english (if it was written, of course). Thing is, English is kind of a mix of the other european languages, so much so that some people to this day still argue that English is a roman and not german language, or that english originally actually came from the scandinavian vikings.
@@benia1908 1) japanese is not that big of a language. Sure alot of people speak it, but it is concentrated in a small island in the pacific ocean. Also learning it is a mess, you basically have to learn 3 different writing system just to read the language. 2) Which chinese are we talking about? Chinese consists of many "dialects" (Mandarin, Catonese etc), and those dialects are not more mutually intelligible than say, Swedish and German. The only reason why Chinese counts as one language rather than a language tree like germanic and roman, is because they share a common writing system (chinese characters), meaning a mandarin and a catonese can't speak with eachother, but they can write to eachother. While you could say that we are talking about mandarin chinese, most chinese people learn mandarin as a 2nd language. Both language suffer from the fact that they don't have any neighbour languages that come from the same family tree, so there won't be any learning boost for these languages. If you speak any of the major european languages like spanish, french, german portuguese or even russian, you will have somewhat easier to learn english because all of these languages are either germanic or at least indo-european.
@@benia1908 If you feel like tldr, then improve your reading skills and read again. your argument is already addressed in my reply and my reply measures around 200 words. If you think 200 words is too much, you have attention span issues.
@@morganjonasson2947 >Both language suffer from the fact that they don't have any neighbour languages that come from the same family tree exactly, this is why English still has flaws as the true international language
There will never be a neutral language for everyone. Every language will be easier for native speakers of some languages compared to others. I think that Esperanto was a good try. I like Interlingua the most as a conlang, as it is unabashedly trying to focus on the Romance languages (with some English as a kind of tie-breaker), and also takes away the difficult grammar.
It was a good try, but still failed. The thing is, most people don't want to learn any foreign language at all. In my country, most don't even have an International passport to travel. As for those, who care they aren't bothered so much with its difficulty. In fact a difficult language even has an advantage, because mastering it gives you an edge over the lazy crowd. Also people don't necessarily learn languages to talk with all people around the world, but rather because some culture is "superior" in their opinion and gives them possibilities, so they want to be a member of the "club".
The problem with interlingua is that it is much harder to speak it fluently than Esperanto. I speak Esperanto fluently and Interlingua is easy to understand for speakers of Romance languages
@@alalexesc I would guess that you have not studied them equally. And of course for those who studied Interlingua, they may think that it's easier to speak fluently than Esperanto (unless you are pointing to some unmentioned feature of the language itself). And as you mentioned, for speakers of Romance languages, Interlingua should be extra simple to learn. So I'd say it depends. From the little that I know, both Interlingua and Esperanto seem to be quite simple to learn as languages go (simple grammar, regularity, etc).
@@KnightOfEternity13 "still failed" Hard to succeed when Esperanto gets almost accepted as an international language at the league of Nation, but France and France only objects because they want to keep their monopoly as the language of diplomacy (which they lost to english), and then the nazis killed off many jews which Esperantists disproportionnately were, including Zamenhof's family. Being the world leading language has little to do with being a good language and a lot to do with being the language of a world power. English for the western world, Russian for the east when the USSR was a thing. If the US and Europe were to lose a world war (which I definetly hope they won't, they're bad but the alternatives are so much worse) you'd have chinese becoming a world language. Esperanto was never going to become THE international language, but it definetly had a shot at being wildly more popular than it is but got blocked by fucking french and nazis.
Saluton kara, mi estas el Egiptujo kaj Esperanto estas sufiĉa bona kaj justa lingvo por ĉiuj. Mi povas kompreni la anglan sed mi ne ŝatas kaj kapablas paroli ĝin kiel Esperanto. La germana estis por mi falcila ol la angla. Ne ĉiuj homoj kapablas paroli la anglan bone kaj ne ĉiuj homoj povas atingi altan nivelon en la lingvoj kaj mi per Esperanto konaktis kun multaj homoj pli multe kompare dum mia lernado de aliaj lingvoj kaj Dankon. Kaj estas Ĉinaj Esperantistoj, kiuj bone scipovas la lingvon.
@@erikdalna211 لغة جميلة صحيح ولكن عملية للاستخدام العالمي؟! ليس تماماً الاصوات ليست قياسية، القوانين ليست ثابتة، ونمط الكتابة مغاير تماماً للمعتاد في اغلب اللغات.... زِد على ذلك كونها وبصورة تقريبة لغة ذات طابع ديني على وجه العموم، يجب التفكير بموضوعية لمراعاة جميع جوانب اللغة المعتمدة من سهولة اللفظ إلى سهولة النحو والكتابة، الاسبرانتو حققت ذلك، الانجليزية لم تفعل ذلك من ناحية النطق والكتابة.
Mi ne nomus min samideano -- mi estas ja raŭmisto -- sed mi tute konsentas, ke Esperanto havas sian valoron kaj sian belecon, kaj Language Simp is just simply plain totally goddamn #$*! wrong with his misesperantism.
Лэнгвич Симп, ты настоящий гигачад! Я не могу тебе указывать, что делать, но я хочу предложить тебе подумать о том, чтобы снять обзор на латынь (Latin). Это может быть коллаборация с Люком Раньери (Luke Ranieri), aka polyMATHY, aka Scorpio Martianus. Можно указать в достоинствах, что этот язык позволяет выучить одновременно испанский, португальский, сицилийский, румынский и каталанский. Ну и итальянский, может быть, тоже. Word inflections там почти как в русском, это тоже можно как-нибудь ржачно обыграть.
I believe the most ideal lingua franca would be Mongolian. It is just put simply, a gigachad language with cool history behind it and overall is pretty easy to learn. 😊
English (American???) is pretty much the stupidest choice for an international language. It has all the disadvantages that you are dishing up for Esperanto. On top of that it is as irregular as hell, for many words you can't tell how they have to be pronounced when you read them and due to the medieval Great Vowel Shift all vowels are pronounced the wrong way.
Fun fact: after WW1, there were talks in the League of Nations about making Esperanto the lingua franca, but the French vetoed it to "protect the special status of the French language". So if you don't support Esperanto, you're literally no better than the French. Sorry, I don't make the rules. 🐸
Living in Denmark I speak Danish - but I don´t whine about the fact that I can only use it together with other Danish speaking people and that it´s not understood and spoken all over the world. It works for me together with other Danish speaking people. The same with Esperanto. It works together with those who speak too. Yes, it didn´t become the second language to the whole world. But that´s how ideas work. U.N. was probably meant to bring peace and understanding too to the world. It didn´t, but it´s still there.
@@AdrianDuknes Never be afraid to learn something you genuinely enjoy or are passionate about. Honestly seeing this video and my defensive reaction to the frankly kind of silly attack on esperanto has motivated me to go through with learning Toki Pona. The language is just fascinating to me. Lojban is as well, but Toki Pona is considerably simpler so probably gonna start with that lol
I understand and respect your opinion, but I disagree when you said that Americans deserve to be their mother tongue as an international language. I took at least 4 years studying English to be able to have a conversation, and I'm still learning. I mean, I'm not even fluent... 75 days ago , I decided to learn Esperanto, and in terms of comparison, I would say that I've learned as much Esperanto as 1,5 years of English. I'm not an activist or Esperantisto as they call themselves, I wanted to learn it just for a hobby, and because I liked the way it sounds. I honestly don't believe it'll be the international language, but just in case I'll be ready 😂 on the other hand, the learning is being pleasurable and funny.
None of the bad things you say about Esperanto can even remotely compare to the subtle yet deep pleasure of participating in a Internacia Kongreso de Esperanto... I'm a total Raŭmisto: I think Esperanto exists, has a culture, a cool community of Esperantists, and via the pasporta servo opens the doors to traveling to other countries at a reasonable price. I've gone to several countries speaking Esperanto, and it's helped me quite a lot. And hey -- if Trekkies and anime fans can have their own world, then la tutmondaj esperantistoj ankaŭ povas ekzisti, bone kaj feliĉe! And don't get me started on the REAL international conlang which is 100% better than Esperanto: Volapük. Si no kanols spikön Volapüki, no sevols, kio binon läb verätik in vol obsik at. O pük jönik kion!
Why noone likes esperanto rather And I totally agree with Toki Pona as global language Also a common European language could be reconstruction of Proto-indoeuropean
Toki Pona is too hard to say something a little more complex than something very basic, Proto-Indoeuropean is too hard to learn (and maybe not very well known (we don't know what H1, H2 and H3 are, I don't know how much we know about syntax but I think it's not very much))
@@heinrich.hitzinger Those still used Latin as the language of scholarship and diplomacy for most of their history Really the only ones who would have valid reason to argue are the Greeks
No joke: American Sign Language is the best first second language. I’ve gotten more real world use from the little bit of ASL I learned back in the 80s than any other language. And like Mandarin, when you start doing sign language the locals start doing backflips in celebration. ❤ Upon finding out that I knew a little bit of ASL, I was offered a job ON THE SPOT at a place where I was temping. Insane!
It is undoubtedly the best first second language for someone living in the United States, alongside Spanish. It certainly is not going to be of much use outside the USA though of course, since it is distantly related to French Sign Language but not to anything else.
@@30803080308030803081 Hey, I don't know about the situation in there, but here in Brazil, LIBRAS (br sign language) had a very long and recent history of being legalized, few decades ago it was straight up prohibited (by the person in charge of the national deaf's school mind you) in favor of oralization. So you sort of need to get political about it, people being unaware of it's history caused many dehumanizing problems to them.
@@salvadorromero9712 the best second languages are your local sign language and you local lingua franca and/or second most spoken language, for exemple if you're from Brazil (like i am), the best languages to learn (for real world use) would be Libras, Spanish and English
A fault finder would find fault in paradise. There are two types of people in this world: those who build and those who tear down. Be careful of empty people who have nothing to offer the world, but who spend their time trying to destroy what others have built.
This video is hateful, Esperanto is a good language, its problem is adoption. Why almost nobody learn Danish or Lithuanian? because it has few speakers, the same issue about Esperanto.
It feels arrogant to say, but I think it's pretty clear that English is the most "international" language we currently have. More people speak it as a second language than as a first.
It just further reinforces America's unearned cultural dominance and forces several thousands of millions of people to spend years learning an annoying and highly irregular language while the Americans literally don't have to lift a finger because they already speak it fluently. Oh, hang on. You didn't say American. You said English. Actually, I take it back. Good choice.
@@omp199I'm pretty sure most people who are fluent in english as a second language(like me) acquired it just by being involved with the internet, without dedicated study. But I do get that depends on how much time you spend on the internet so, I guess
Latin should be the international language. It was the original international language used by several monks and aristocrats for centuries, not to mention that since few people today know it, everyone has to take part in knowing it. Valete!👋
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Yeah equal in how unsuitable for everyone it is. Not sure if that's the kind of equality people want. This is like making a country wealth equal by exiling all the rich people so only the poor are left
The fact that Esperanto is spoken so little is the reason why it makes such a great candidate for a form of cipher. Furthermore, the gazillion root words in it make it almost impossible to decipher.
Gazillion root words??? It has far fewer root words than English or other national/ethnic languages. Esperanto builds its vocabulary using suffixes and prefixes plus word compounding.
@@aviadiloStill, English gets a pass because most of the colonised world uses the language as a secondary or a tertiary. I have yet to meet a person who even knows that Esperanto exists.
@@aviadiloWith all due respect, you're just hanging around a different crowd. Only around 2 million people know Esperanto, which is under 0.1% of all humans. Chinese and English are both in the billions, with Japanese and Spanish and other world languages reaching the 100 millions.
@@hahahhahahahufool2114 How many millions of people do you communicate with? I don't care if over one billion people speak Chinese. I have little to do with China apart from buying Chinese products. And if I need to contact people in China, there are plenty of Chinese Esperantists I can contact. I've been studying Italian the last five years, have done several intensive courses in Italy. Far more people speak Spanish, but I love Italy, visit often and so Italian is far more useful to me than Spanish or Chinese or Indonesian. In fact, Esperanto is far more useful to me than those three languages. The number of speakers is irrevelant.
My vote is for Polish. Not because I'm a Polkaphile, but because it's got a lot of good things going for it linguistically and, unlike its Slavic siblings, it uses an alphabet a lot of the planet is already familiar with. Also, Poland will rise again and dominate the globe. We're already seeing signs of it become the next greatest economy in the Europe. It's either that or the Chinese will impose Mandarin on us all.
@@o_s-24 Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz moment. (It could be written easier if poles decided to make rz, sz, cz combinations as one letter but it was too much effort for them)
At Duolingo, I quit Esperanto because I couldn't hear the difference between "mi" and "ni" in the listening exercises. This is a fundamental flaw in Esperanto regarding hearing impairments, poor audio quality, radio communications, and ventriloquist dummies trying to speak Esperanto. The singular pronouns are *mi/vi/li* (I, you, he) and the plural pronouns are *ni/vi/ili* (we, you, they). I think the plural pronouns should be *ini/ivi/ili* (we, you, they) which would help tremendously. I can't be the first person to identify this problem and propose an elegant solution.🙂
At a company celebration for employees who had reached various milestones of employment (5 years, 10 years, etc.), I was asked to stand up and reveal an unknown fact about myself. I said that I was learning Esperanto. There was a deathly silence. As all the other attendees stared at me like I was a freak. Which I was. 😂 Jokes aside, Esperanto was very useful when I first became interested in learning Romance languages. It didn’t carry the trauma of my 7th grade Spanish class, or the cruelty I experienced at the hands of Very Evil French Instructors in college. I consider it the training wheels of language, and just like training wheels, should be discarded soon afterward. And yeah, Esperanto was absolutely of NO USE whatsoever when I fell in love with Georgian, Russian, Ukrainian, Greek, and Norwegian. Won’t help with Bulgarian either. Boo.
I think it still helps to learn other languages, it helped me with Chinese and for starters the biggest help is to prove the students is not bad at languages, give them some self confident and a successful experience in learning the first foreign language. Also communicating with other speakers is a nice experience most of the times, it makes you want to learn more languages cause most of them are or get naturally into languages afterwards
Many language contains some unnecessary complications. For example: English pronunciation and exceptions, French silent letters and numbers, German genders for objects, concatenated words and special characters, Russian genders for objects and special characters. I like Spanish punctuation before the sentences, Italian pronunciation, Esperanto grammar. I think a simplified, logical language is a good idea.
I was hardcore into learning esperanto until I remembered that languages evolve, and that if everyone spoke it, In a few hundred years some parts of the population will be unable to understand other parts and the purpose will be defeated.
i think esperanto can be good to learn because its based on a bunch of european languages so i think it would help you to learn other european languages
Kinda. But I think you can as well just learn one of these romance languages with similar benefits. For example, because I've learned French in university, I can grasp many similar ideas in Spanish. If I'd learned Esperanto... wouldn't be so easy. It lacks for example complex verb system, traditional for Romance languages.
@@kiwenmanisuno Least linguistically intelligent toki ponist (me) is taking linguistic courses in uni but good try!!! Plus toki pona is also gigachad at mostly everything i'll proudly keep defending sonia lang supremacy
@@joaquinalvarez2784 When you go back to class, try imagining how hard it would be for your teacher to explain everything in Toki Pona. Or imagine if you were translating a law book into Toki Pona.....
@@chickenstrangler3826 Toki Pona accounts for that, it truly is easier and more understandable than it would be for a mandarin speaker to understand a law book translated into Esperanto
An international language has to be Eurocentric as European languages are already spoken all over the world, moreover practically every scientific words come from European languages. The world just don't need influences from Austronesian languages or Zulu dialects
Hmm, in the beginning I thought I need to write a comment negating every point made, but as it gets more and more absurd, it's negating itself. Unfortunately there will be people not catching the irony. (One of these brainwashed people here. I even once sat in a room with the inventor of Toki Pona, and many years later helped to translate a song from Esperanto to Toki Pona, without having learned Toki Pona myself. I didn't know this channel before, but I guess UA-cam suggested this video to me because it has "Esperanto" in the title?)
4:24 I remember randomly learning about Esperanto online back in like the mid-2010s when I had just graduated high school. I was seriously considering devoting some time to learning the language but luckily realized how not easy it was going to be. I'm not even sure why I was interested in it back then. Maybe I drank the Kool-Aid and really thought it would be the universal language of the future one day. Seems like English is the almost universal language right now.
Personnaly I think québécois french should be the international language, its not widely spoken so almost every one would have to learn it and it sound good compare to american , but I think it would require a lot of efforts for people (even french) to learn the pronounciation and I'm probably biased by the fact that québécois french is my native language and I like it so much. Another problem would be the fact you can't write it, in school we learn to write a standard french because of that.
I know several Russians that speak Esperanto and some of the language was even based on Russian, so I was also shocked when he used that as an example.
@@konstantin_troitskiy Russia is a multicultural country to say that someone is not Russian because they are Chukchi or Kalmyk is silly. Esperanto is not based on Italian, it has mainly Romance, Germanic and Slavic roots.
@@Zodamay For the majority of his life, LL Zamenhof lived in the cities of Bialystok and Warsaw, which were part of the Russian empire until his final years. Bialystok was a multiethnic city, with Poles, Germans, Russians, and Jews living in it. Despite this, Zamenhof noticed as a child that there were frequent conflicts between the different groups. He suspected that this was because they did not speak the same languages, and thus he was convinced that an international language would be an important step in achieving human peace. Zamenhof himself had two native languages, learning Russian from his father and Yiddish from his mother. He was also fluent in Polish and German, and had studied other languages, such as French and English.
Verdire mi atendis, ke tiu estus amuza filmeto, sed vi faris vere informan filmeton. Malgraŭ mi parolas Esperanton, mi kunsentas, ke ĝi estas malbona por vere neŭtrala internacia interparolado - mi mem faris filmeton pri tio. Honestly I expected this to be a funny video, but you made a truly informative video. Although I speak Esperanto, I agree it's bad for real neutral international communication - I even made a video about this.
I spent a month going through Esperanto a few years back, and barely looked at it since. Yet I understood everything you wrote. Highly regular rules regarding verbs, nouns, adjectives & adverbs is the key to language creation and rapid learning. Credit where due to Zamenhof.
I think the international language should be Norwegian since it’s easy to learn and we all know it’s the best Scandinavian language and does not give you throat problems like danish and doesn’t have a weird word for window like Swedish plus it’s easy to learn since even children can speak it plus it’s just the best
I love Toki Pona (I make videos in it, have a look)... but should it be THE international language, as you say? Although, yes, you could use it in that way, note that it does not need to be. As it was never created for that purpose, Toki pona is primarily just chill, enjoyable, and useful as a personal or community language.
I think Gibberish should be the international language of the world. It's so easy! It takes 2 week to become fluent. It only has 105 words and no verb conjugations, genders, or any of that bs! It uses elements from EVERY language! Here are some examples: Hello: Hollo (Hola + Hello) Goodbye: Zaidios (Zai Jain + Adios) What's your name?: Comment de name? (Comment tu m'apple? + Como de llamas? + What's you're name?)
I don't know much aboug constructed languages, but I always dreamed of creating one from studying real life languages and some fictional constructed languages briefly. Mine would be based on "expanding your way of thinking", including every feature I think is sociologically and psychologically helpful from every language, that is, thinks that make communication more precise and thinking more precise -- for example: some languages have three forms of "we/us/our", one for "you and me", one for "me and somebody else", and one for "all of us/everyone", neatly packaged in a single word. Many languages have interssting diacritics or punctuation for the written language, I really like Spanish's "¿?", for example, because you can be specific and unambigous where the question starts without having to rephrase. Edit: Romance languages usually differentiate between "being right now" and "has always been. Contrast "Richard enn lil' Feline is bald" with "Richard enn lil' Feline está careca" and "Richard enn lil' Feline é careca".
if you interested, try to google Ithkuil. The creator tried to make the language as precise as he could - it ended up very interesting. It expands thinking very much.
Esperanto is good for people from other continents who want to learn European languages (especially Romance) as it will help them understand how they work and will make it easier for them to learn them. It will take a lot less time for them to learn it then other languages as it has simpler grammar with no exceptions.
Correct. But then they will have spent that time and effort learning a nearly useless language. Is for instance, Esperanto, then Spanish, really easier than simply learning Spanish from the start? I have serious doubts. I do not even think that even if your ultimate goal is to learn *multiple* languages, that for instance Esperanto, then Spanish, then Italian will really be easier and quicker than simply Spanish, then Italian.
@@salvadorromero9712 True, in most cases I completely agree. What this would be best for is for people have an extreme difficulty learning Spanish or another romance languages to learn Esperanto in order help them have a better understanding of them.
I think the international language of the world should be welsh, it has incredibly easy pronunciation, and is already widely spoken by over 100 people!
Latin is superior
As a Welsh person I absolutely agree. For some people like me in South Wales barely speak the language or more commonly not at all. What fools they are. Welsh is the most useful and powerful language in the world.
wel, rydw in siariad i bach cymraeg, ond fy saesneg yn wych.
Nope. No no no no no. Language Simp will never make a video about Welsh (or even any Celtic language for that matter).
@@archiepeters43812 nerdd 🤓
For the world language I suggest Army Slavic. Army Slavic is a language created by the Austro - Hungarian Empire to make communication between the different Slavic people within the Army easier. It consists of about 80 words that are almost exclusively useful for pre WW2 Warfare, which is the simplicity a world language needs.
Picking a language that is mostly used for warfare doesn't seem like that great of an idea, but I guess we already picked American English for that one. 😂
Aren't a lot of those 80 words for military stuff though?
@@that_orange_hat Yes which is the simplicity a world language needs.
Takes 'war is the language of the universe' to a new extreme
@@Ninjaeule97 I don't see the problem. War is the only thing we have in common as humanity.
As a random Russian in Siberia I feel obliged to say that I am perfectly fine with the Italian pronunciation.
As a random north Korean i agree
I am also Russian. I love Italian.. it's my favorite language 💗🇮🇹
Bravo
@@sicilia7070 r u a girl?
@@alekseiloboda2553 yes
I'm learning Esperanto so when authorities question me or take me to court, they won't have an official translator and have to dismiss the cases
based
Is this a thing ?
@@Barisdagame Nope.
They'll just get a romanian translator
Ther has to be one language ther is no translator ready for ur case
Let's gather one person from each country in the world who don't speak any other languages than their native one to an inhabited island and let them live there until they develop the ultimate international language
It would just be English.
Because of how many countries speak English. They would just choose that one I think.
This has already been done before. It's called Viossa.
Yeah
الاقتراح اعجبني لكنهم سيختارون لغة محددة لتواصل مع بعضهم مثل الإنجليزية
Probably that experiment wouldn't result in one single international language, it would actually just form multiple groups of people who speak similar languages and these groups would form their own dialects.
You'd have the romance languages speakers forming a group of their own, slavic language speakers forming another group, scandinavians forming another, English and Arabic speakers would probably only interact with those who speak their own language, since many countries speak these ones, and those who speak languages that are "isolated" like the person from Hungary, the one from Finland and etc. would either have to learn another language during the experiment or they'd simply be lonely
"English has simple grammar and phonology rules"
So brave of you to say this Mr Simp
*American
@@mjodyhsame
@@mjodyh Australian*
And no exceptions
Grammar is fairly easy. Orthography and pronunciantion is a pain in the butt.
The international language should be Finnish. No-one speaks it as a first language and it's hard enough to learn that anyone who can speak it should be worth talking to.
suostua
"No-one speaks it as a first language" joke, yes?
Nobody speaks standard Finnish, that's a language you learn in school. The home dialects of Finnish are very different to the standard language.
This reminds me of Star Wreck.
Potkita nuo paskesaiat pois tasta galaksista
@@notsia💀💀
This video is the only reason i am learning Esperanto
bonvenon al nia kulto samideano
@@theinternationallanguagees9213 danke!
Great!
For real
Ye, couldn't agree more. Tre vera.
Cantonese should be the global lingua franca because everyone deserves a chance to shock natives
You kidding right??
@@--elpously9697no, everyone deserves the opportunity to shock natives
馬仔，不如整碗雲吞面過你食？
@@godofallpotatoes1614
OK you have the choice to speak it
But you can't force us to do the same
Yup bro hai yaa!!
The problem with learning Esperanto is that you have to speak it with the kinds of people who learn Esperanto
Replace this with literally any other conlang I swear
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@@rowboat10I’d rather speak Klingon than Esperanto
And what's wrong with that? When you learn a natural language there's no guarantee that you can find a community. The only kind of people who learn Esperanto are those who want to join a friendly international space. It may not be useful but learning languages isn't just about "business" or "travel." But there is a service where esperanto speakers host follow esperantists for cheaper so that's something I guess.
@@flannelsone1159 I'd rather try to save a regional language rather than speak an invented language!!
Fun fact: Esperanto is officially called "世界语" (Shìjièyǔ) in China, meaning "World Language"
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funner even fact: China government still subsidize the Esperanto teaching and learning from the Mao days in which there really believes speak it will be the future.
@@psittakosfei2688your not Chinese, am l right?
Of course I am, and very soon, everybody will be as well.@@stephen3143141
Then what's Volapük called?
I had no real problems learning Esperanto as a first foreign language. It didnt take long and gave me a great basis for other languages. Instead of going through trying to understand new concepts, I could just spend a little time learning Esperanto and go "Oh, this concept in this language is like this in Esperanto". I've gotten way more out of Esperanto than French or Spanish. It just depends what you do.
Somewhat agree. I actually found it easier to learn Spanish in my second language French, rather than my first language, English, because the word order of Spanish and French is amazingly similar. So, it's easy to think in Spanish using French. I think you would have been better off learning one Romance language well, then learning the subsequent romance languages off your first one.
It didn't surprise me that on UA-cam there are actually instructors in French teaching Spanish and vice versa!
I've heard this before, and I would learn it if there were lots of other Esperanto speakers around, but there aren't (at least, not where I live).
makes sense
@@jfppp1 where do you live?
@@AyskaLyn Rural Ohio in the USA. The nearest big city (Columbus) is an hour away.
The perfect lingua franca would be a mix of the most final boss languages, Polish and Finnish with a little hint of a very niche language like Luxembourgish, topped with some Chinese grammar and Danish pronunciation. Just fantastic.
I like your idea, but the Chinese grammar is too straightforward.
I suggest Hungarian.
@@StrategySphere Make it tonal as well
Wouldn't you want a ligua franca to be easy to learn by everyone? This is just esperanto expect you made it hard for everyone.
@@Ninjaeule97 yes
Chinese grammar is simple, the wild horse is Russian
As a Spanish speaker, I support calling Esperanto "Spanish 2" but only after we give it our always useful and supereasy to learn verb conjugations! Esperanto totally needs two imperfect subjunctive forms!
Both are ugly. One because of how the sounds are put together, second because of how everything is put together (except for the abstract level maybe).
¿Por qué los llamas "español 2"?
@@alejo7625 no viste el video?
To me it doesn’t sound like Spanish. It sounds more italian
@@5thkiechannel for me, it sounds Romanian.
esperanto killed my family and forced me to complete the esperanto course on duolingo and have a 6 hour conversation in esperanto with 10 different people. overall i'd give it a 8/10.
You mean there are TWO of us in the world? I mean, what are the odds?
Gratulon !
Ni havu tiun konversacion denove 😁
I learnt Esperanto and discovered I could already read French, which I took up in turn. So, not a wasted venture. Also it has helped in part with my German and Greek. Also living in a new state I met a group by the Esperanto shirt a gentleman was wearing. This gave me an immediate group. Also.. great for sci fi lovers as you can understand obscure comments in Gattaca, Blade 3, Red Dwarf and so on. So for me it has been very positive and easy.
Lol I tried learning Esperanto and I quit for French in less than a month in
@@anti_islam639 Dank' al Esperanto
I'm curious, have you ever used Esperanto online?
@@benia1908 lernu
Esperanto helped me A LOT with french and german too
As an Esperantophile I completely agree with your opinion, Esperanto has ruined my life. Esperanto took away my wife, my children and most importantly, my will to learn new languages.
Ĉu vere? Mi ankoraŭ lernas lingvojn. Ili ĉiuj ŝajnas malpli bonaj, tro komplikaj, tro malfacilaj, kaj eĉ malbelaj kompare al E-o, sed malgraŭ tio, mi daŭre ĝuas lerni ilin.
@@frechjobone diris
Learn braille then
@@Beau_Rivage What I said was:
¿En serio? Yo todavía aprendo idiomas. Comparado al Esperanto, parecen menos buenos, demasiado complicados, demasiado difíciles, e incluso feos, pero a pesar de eso, todavía disfruto aprenderlos.
Hope that's accommodating enough for you.
如果你还不懂我可以用中文说
The international languages should be English & Dutch, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever - Welsh is a pretty language as well, so it should be taught in school as one of the optional Celtic languages, so everyone should also learn at least one Celtic language and at least one Latin language!
As a Russian speaker I would like to say that Russian and Italian languages (and also Portuguese) have similar system of sounds, so for us it's much easier to pronounce than English, for example. And vice versa.
But Italian doesn't have the vowel reduction system as in Russian
@@tobyalder42true, but the sound qualities are the most important thing. Russian doesn't have a distinction between i, like in ship, and e like in sheep, for example, so we never sound natural when saying these two words. And th and s sounds in one word still appear in my nightmares, even though for a russian I'm a f-ing 😱EENOSTRANYETS😱 with my ~B2. Or maybe it's B1. I once scored C1-C2 on an online test😂, but that was definitely bullsh*t.
agreed!
@@ldmtag Actually, Russian does have that distinction, many speakers just don't realise it. Russian "и" is pronounced differently in stressed and unstressed positions, according to the IPA (which may not be fully accurate, though) the sounds are like in English, "i" and "ɪ". A Russian speaker would pronounce, for example, English "benign" more or less correctly, but he would pronounce incorrectly Italian "benigno"
@@tobyalder42 yes, that's correct. But most of the unstressed Иs are the same, and most of the stressed Иs are the same as well. Doesnt help with ship/sheed distinction.
Challennge for Language Simp:
Create your own Language with these rules
-Grammar should be as simplistic as possible with no gender, conjugations, cases etc. (Like chinese)
-Alphabet should be pictures so it looks cool and not American (Like Korean)
-No homophones or homonyms allowed
-No synonyms allowed
-The alphabet will probably be bigger than korean in order to have more sounds and therefore easier not to create homonyms
-Words are created with the given alphabet by the community where it is tracked which words already exist and which sounds are already taken
-Buy a huge plot of land somewhere
-Only people who pass a standardised language test in made up language is allowed to live there
-Then the language will evolve from there
toki pona is pretty close with it's 120 sitelen pona (its """alphabet"""), has no cases, and all synonyms are the same word. it also has a community where people develop the language and add new words and reanalyse old words and just speak the language.
@@notwithouttext Yeah, Toki Pona is already a really admirable effort towards this goal.
@@notwithouttext Toki Pona looks great for expressing the bare essentials
@@notwithouttext Its grammar still isn't as simple as it could be, and it is VERY ambiguous. Toki Pona is better than Esperanto but still far from functional.
@@maxkho00 it's not meant to be as simple as possible, but just comfortably simple to use alongside another language.
One feature I love about Esperanto is its agglutination. The book La Bona Lingvo shows how you can be very expressive in Esperanto. It has a lot of words but you can also express complex concepts with a smaller vocabulary. It makes the language able to express a lot of nuance and be more brief. An entire clause can become just one word thanks to affixes and grammar. You can use compound words easily. In other languages, you need to memorise thousands of words. In Esperanto, you need about a thousand and a handful of prefixes and suffixes to do the same.
Aren't agglutinative languages what people with coeliac disease are allergic to?
@@nsf001-3 Yes. That always reminded me of the coeliac disease 😅. I guess coeliac disease sufferers can only speak analytic languages, then.
*EDIT:* Also; I guess people, who are allergic to glue, as well.
which is something that languages such as Japanese and Turkish have. I know enough Japanese to get around but when words get long it can be confusing as to what is being said. For example a sentence that goes "Can I be forced to confess to that crime?" It's a difficult thing to both express and understand exactly in Japanese. For me anyway.
I love it!
German can be agglutinative, too. Perhaps not as much as Esperanto, or in the same way, but still...
My favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän." Means "Danube steamship company captain." My second favorite long German word: "Donaudampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajutenschlüssel." Means "Key to the Danube steamship company captain's cabin."
If you want to learn a useless Romance language, why not choose something badass like Latin?? They also have a community of nerds who will welcome you!
Do you think ancient greek is useless too?
Guy's unaware of the existence of ancient books and poetry
@@jasonjohnson6938Latin is useless. Who cares that western cultures come out of Roman and Greek ones. Pfff.
@@jasonjohnson6938 what even are books? Like the things that movies are based on?
And they are cool nerds.
The international language should be Esperanto, it has super easy pronunciation, and is spoken by over 2 people!
It is spoken by over 2 people, 2 million is over 2
100% agree. To be honest an international language should be easy to understand and fast to use. Like Python.
An international language should have semicolons
Assembly code is better
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Lojban is designed for you guys.
Not Python. Humans won't apply significant whitespace correctly, see below. I'm with the semicolons and curly brackets.
The Piano
{was sold to the lady}
with carved legs
3:20 "It just has too many words"
- Oh ? I've got a language that can solve that.
"It should only have a few hundred words"
- OH ??
"And that's why I think toki pona should be the international language instead"
- AYYYYYYYY
Lon
I've been learning Esperanto recently and I agree with a lot of this, but I'm just learning it because it's something unique and interesting to put on a college application/scholarship.
Many people start learning it by linguistic curiosity and then find out that it is so interesting to connect with Esperanto speakers all over the world
I just learned to gain romance vocabulary. Helped me quite a bit in Spanish.
it's also probably somewhat easy to learn
I like that you call English "American international language". Totally not biased :D
and he said "American alphabet" instead of "Latin alphabet"
This entire channel is ironic joke videos that shouldn't be taken seriously
Haha, the author keeps emphasizing the US.
its a joke
A complete Idiot! 100% "UScentric"
There was once, not so long ago, a language like Esperanto that was actually used and actually did what it was supposed to. It's called the Chinook Jargon, or Chinuk Wawa. It may not sound too pretty, but it developed naturally out of contact between Natives and European traders and was used as far up the West Coast as southern Alaska. There's even a tribe that still continues to use it (Grand Ronde in Oregon), who publishes a really info-packed text book in which you can learn all 500 of the language's root words.
Tl;dr, Chinook Jargon did it better just by being a naturally-developed contact language.
I'll save people's time by summarizing this video:
-He thinks few people speak it = useless
-It's Eurocentric (as if English isn't)
-Too hard to learn (This is how you know he's just making stuff up)
This is what I've done with Esperanto:
- Traveled and was hosted by Esperanto speakers in different countries;
- I hosted Esperanto backpackers from different nationalities in my house and we practiced other languages;
- Been to Esperanto meetings in my town, watched cultural lectures with people from other countries, had some nice exchange with people;
- Been to an international congress with hundreds of people from all continents;
- We spent one week at a hotel with all those people, full immersion, music, cultural events, crazy parties, night clubs, restaurants... everything in Esperanto.
- In the congress, I've seen all sorts of weird people: spiritualists, atheists, gays, vegans, Buddhists, old wise men that look like beggars, Linux users... Esperanto attracts such weirdos! One thing is sure: you won't get bored.
- One night at 3 in the morning we were with a group of Esperantists on the beach "moon bathing"... all naked!
The atmosphere was like in this video: ua-cam.com/video/H_OYn6PZKpw/v-deo.html
Apart from that, yeah, I'd say learning Esperanto is almost totally useless. If you want a language for your career, studies, for sitting down and wait speakers to walk by... Esperanto is a no. However, you could learn it just as mental gymnastics, like people play chess, knit, spend hundreds of hours on social media and play video games... so why not Esperanto? You need to be some sort of adventurer, backpacker and have a certain degree of detachment to enjoy Esperanto to the fullest.
At the congress, I bought this book "Ili vivis sur la tero" (They lived on Earth - eight years of migration around our planet). It's the amazing story of a couple who circled the planet speaking Esperanto and meeting Esperanto people. They say: When all your belongings for eight years fit in a backpack, you realize that the joy of life is not about what you have, but really about what you are.
So yeah, you have to be a bit crazy to study and enjoy Esperanto and its philosophy.
Some correct information:
- You will find Esperanto groups perhaps in all major cities around the world, much more than for most natural languages with millions of speakers.
- Esperanto is not among the most spoken languages, but it’s definitely among the most studied languages. I’ve conduced some polls in international forums, it ranked among the top 10. We can confirm that with Duolingo, there were times when Esperanto learners were more than a million, more than most of their courses.
- It’s actually against the goal of Esperanto to be the language of a specific place.
- Esperanto looks European on the surface, but it shares similarities with Oriental languages in the structure, as pointed out by linguist Claude Piron.
- China is one of the world’s greatest supporters of Esperanto. Even the official webpage of the Chinese government has an Esperanto version.
- Its rich vocabulary allows it to be used in Science and the most refined Literature. An international language must be able to share world knowledge. But that still makes it easier than natural languages - making new words and concepts is like playing with Lego.
- English hasn’t become international because of its culture, or because of its intrinsic linguistic properties. It has become international for one chief reason: political and military power. (David Crystal, author of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language).
Saluton! Mi eklernis Esperanton kaj mi estas komencanto. Mi ŝatus renkonti novajn homojn por praktiki Esperanton... Ĉu vi povus helpi min? Mi konas neniun, kiu parolas Esperanton.
You can get the same wonderful experience with enough vodka ;-)
@@thiagooliveira1482People aren't really going to learn it
Linux users😂
"We can confirm that with Duolingo, there were times when Esperanto learners were more than a million, more than most of their courses"
So where are these millions of fluent Esperanto speakers from Duolingo?
Sentinelese would be a good choice as an international language
I think the name "esperanto" comes from the root that means "hope" in romance languages. For exemple in france it's "esperance", and i'm pretty sure it's similar in spanish
Of course. In fact, 'esperanto' is (in Esperanto) a participle meaning 'one who hopes', just as, say, 'kantanto' means 'one who sings'. The creator of the language signed his first publications as "Dro Esperanto" = "the hopeful doctor", and his pen-name stuck to the language (which he himself had simply named Lingvo internacia).
you're right, in spanish we say esperanza
in portuguese is esperança
The original name was "desperanto", more accurate name if you ask my opinion.
@@angelostsirimokos8104By the way, another English word for "one who hopes" is "aspirant," so I don't know why people don't say the obvious "Esperanto means aspirant" and instead dance around it with primitive caveman English.
Fun Fact: Esperanto is in Minecraft
so is toki pona
toki pona li toki pi musi Manka.
Interesting fact:
Since the time of Onisaburo Deguchi, the constructed language Esperanto has played a major role in the japanese Oomoto religion. Starting in 1924, the religion has published books and magazines in Esperanto and this continues today. It is said that they introduced Esperanto when they had contact with the Baháʼí Faith in 1921.
A famous practitioner of the Oomoto faith is Morihei Ueshiba, founder of the martial art Aikido.
fascinating, that's a religion I'd never heard of
@@andrewwitcombe-small3713 Same. Also; I expected Aikido to be much older (by, like, several centuries); but it’s actually about on par with Sambo, by the looks of it.
Aikido is as useless as Esperanto 😂
Ithkuil is obviously the best language. It is very easy to learn for everyone and it is already spoken by more than 5 people
XD
I totally support this point.
Nahuatl most best language, it spoken by all Mexica
I'm more of a NEW ITHKUIL kinda guy.
ITHKUIL III
People: Create an artificial language to make it easier to communicate with each other
Also people: Continue to communicate in English and don’t use Esperanto
People who learned Esperanto:
👁👄👁
yes the 2 people who went out of their way to learn esperanto must be real disappointed rn
@@yoro__33 Doctor Esperanto: 👁👄👁
@@yoro__33the 2 million people who learned Esperanto are very affected
@@kiwenmanisuno Mi povas konfirmi.
Italian was chosen as a model for pronunciation because it has the simplest phonology out of all extant languages. So a good model for one who's trying to make his language as simple as possible, wouldn't you think?
I like how the phonology is purported to be super easy and intuitive to use, yet the most spoken language that contains all phonemes Esperanto contains is Polish, which coincidentally happens to be Zamenhof's native language.
His native languages were Idish and Russian. I don't why he said he was Polish when he was a Jew from Russian Empire
@@mearbyeHe lived in Warsaw, and other places in Poland his whole life.
@@szlanty He lived in Russia his entire life and spoke Russian
Polish lacks Esperanto's /x-h/ distinction and I don't think Zamenhof actually spoke Polish as a first language, he spoke Yiddish and Russian
@@that_orange_hat At the time it was created Polish still distinguished /x/ from /h/.
Beacause of you, i started learning esperanto🎉.
When I was very young I wanted to learn Esperanto because I read a children's book about languages that left me with the impression that Esperanto was the language of the future.
How many Esperanto activists begged you not to make this video?
I learned English as my second language young.
But I gave up on learning esperanto the moment I realized how different it is from what I know and how little people speak it.
Same as me, I found about it in a children's book about communication, and fell in love with the idea.
Took me many years, but finally got to learning it, and I thank my inner child for keeping that memory alive for so long, despite all the people who tried to disuade me.
@@frechjo The children's book from which I found out about Esperanto was called "The Language Book" by Franklin Folsom. I also learned about the Code Talkers from reading that book.
@@tmhc72_gtg22c Oh, cool, you even remember the name :)
I can't remember what my book was called (something in Spanish), but it was about communication in general (not languages specifically).
It's amazing how those little things can stay with us forever! Lucky for us, our parents cared about and were able to widen our worlds like that.
Probably all five of them
Basque should honestly be the de facto language of the entire world because it's not (as far as we know) related to any other language on Earth, meaning that everyone will have an equally difficult time trying to learn it.
There are more isolated languages.. for example georgian! გამარჯობა!
now that i think about it this is literally sambahsa lmao
I think Icelandic should be the lingua de franca of the whole world. It’s incredibly simple (I learned it when I was only a baby) and everyone around me speaks it. Besides, who doesn’t want to sound like a badass viking. First class will be learning the voiceless alveolar lateral affricate.
I actually adore the sound of Icelandic, but to spice things up I think we should do Icelandic-Basque pidgin instead, maybe throw in some Hungarian.
The big superiority term adore and the numbers must be edited out, such words and numbers only reflect me The Goddess and cannot be misused by ppl in any way in yt names or names or in comments etc - adore is love related term, and love related terms only reflect me the only lovable being, and one should use words such as like or find this language pretty etc, not words such as adore or love! Astral terms such as Sol and words such as ber also cannot be misused in names or yt names and must be changed - only we pure / superior beings (me & the pure protectors aka the alphas) reflect astral terms / names / items etc!
The international languages should be English & Dutch & Old Norse, which are the prettiest and most refined languages with the most pretty and poetic words and also the easiest languages ever, and Norwegian is also one of the prettiest ever! Icelandic is also gorgeous and I am learning it, but Old Norse is a bit easier to read and it looks a bit more refined because it doesn’t have those extra Us before the last Rs / consonants, so it’s more suitable to be an universal language - but everyone should learn both Icelandic and Old Norse, and the other main Nordic / Germanic languages! Esperanto is a nice language, not the prettiest Latin language, but still nice enough to learn, so it’s on my list of languages I want to learn and improve, and it’s similar to Spanish & Latin, and the word Esperanto is nice and fits the language well, so what this video says isn’t true at all, probably just parody!
I like Icelandic, it's basically english but better. I think diacritics are a bit too prevalent in it though
A friend of mine was Canada's ambassador to Iceland and he told me that Icelandic is very challenging for English speakers, but I told him Japanese would probably come in at a close second.
Esperanto gets so much unnecessary hate. I think ppl should just have fun with the language. Even if it doesn’t ever achieve it’s goal purpose I think it’s still cool to learn and honestly I wish more people around my age spoke it. I feel like it would be so fun to be able to communicate with more people in Esperanto
If you want to help me learn it, I’ll happily speak it with you
@@multiespeciesfishies2811 What do you learn?
Ive never understood the resistance to learning it. People are willing to learn “useless” languages all the time like Pig Latin or gibberish to communicate but a actual structured language they want nothing to do with.
Add in the fact that its easy to learn and actually helps speed up learning other languages and I still don’t see why its hated.
@@captaindestruction9332 Esperanto is not useless.
@@fitzburg63 i don’t think they’re talking about Esperanto being useless
“It’s a language for everyone”.
No, it’s not
For people who speak Indo-European languages maybe
La lingua internazionale dovrebbe essere il napoletano
There are Japanese and Chinese esperanrists.
@@thexanada96 meglio il romano
@@amadeosendiulo2137 ofc the countries with 1 billion and 200 million people are going to have at least a few people who joined the esperanto cult, that proves nothing
Duolingo is awesome. It helped me with French from zero to b1. Duo made it easy and fun. I also read and watched in French, and watched French teachers on UA-cam. Duo did the most important part. It helped me to start the process and understand the basics.
Perhaps at first Esperanto did fulfill the function for which it was created, but currently most speakers already know that Esperanto does not work as a lingua franca, I, for example, am learning it because it is an easy way to learn vocabulary and understand how many other languages work, I believe that the use of vocabulary from European languages (Spanish, English, French...), is due to the fact that European languages are the most widespread in the world, and in this way it is intended that is the easiest thing for most to learn.
PD: In Poland there is a town with native speakers, but it is not a big town
toki pona has native speaker too!
@@notwithouttext where?
@@Ivacraft to be fair it's only one, and they also speak english and arabic, and aren't fluent, but just look up "toki pona native speaker" with eriksealader, who taught his child toki pona (not the oziji ones because those are just skits),
Toki ponists thinking their language with 125 words is somehow usable to make actual sentences that can't be misinterpreted at all
@@kiwenmanisuno 137 words, and although you could misinterpret things easily it's easy to clarify and give context
Attic/Koine Greek is the only Lingua Franca there ever was, and ever needs to be. The simple act of learning Attic Greek automatically makes you a better than others. This is clearly the only option for a world language.
The only lingua franca is French silly
@@atkospr _shhh_ we don't want to dig that up
@@atkospr'Cause it has Frank in it.
« It’s written in the American alphabet » (referring to the Latin alphabet)
« We invented democracy » (δῆμος+ κράτος)
Ancient Greeks and Romans would be like: 🤨
🤓
🤣
The ancient Greek “Democracy” is not the kind of democracy that survives today. Their “democracy” was very different (for example, only the male warrior class had any real power) with our modern democracy having derived more directly from the Native Americans. See the Iroquois Confederacy and the “5 civilized tribes”
@@flightlesschicken7769 Yes, but still, you cannot say «we invented democracy» like that. I mean, it’s obviously wrong. Maybe « we contributed to its current state, but not «invented»
@@LeoBloom-kc4iv well, yeah. I wouldn’t say that Americans invented democracy. I also wouldn’t say the Greeks did under our modern definition of democracy either. But the word sure does trace its existence back to the ancient Greek and something sort of resembling our modern democracy was used by some ancient Greeks
I think personally we should keep english as the lingua franca of the world. Not only is it the most widely learned language, but it is also a mix of all other major global languages. If you look at the other most spoken languages around the world, you would have Spanish, portuguese, French and German, all of which have a huge chunk of speakers. If you speak any of these languages, you will already have quite easy to learn English. Me myself am Swedish, but already when I were a kid and didn't know english, I could still understand some basic words and sometimes entire sentences in english (if it was written, of course). Thing is, English is kind of a mix of the other european languages, so much so that some people to this day still argue that English is a roman and not german language, or that english originally actually came from the scandinavian vikings.
The Chinese and Japanese are crying in the corner...
@@benia1908 1) japanese is not that big of a language. Sure alot of people speak it, but it is concentrated in a small island in the pacific ocean. Also learning it is a mess, you basically have to learn 3 different writing system just to read the language.
2) Which chinese are we talking about? Chinese consists of many "dialects" (Mandarin, Catonese etc), and those dialects are not more mutually intelligible than say, Swedish and German. The only reason why Chinese counts as one language rather than a language tree like germanic and roman, is because they share a common writing system (chinese characters), meaning a mandarin and a catonese can't speak with eachother, but they can write to eachother.
While you could say that we are talking about mandarin chinese, most chinese people learn mandarin as a 2nd language.
Both language suffer from the fact that they don't have any neighbour languages that come from the same family tree, so there won't be any learning boost for these languages. If you speak any of the major european languages like spanish, french, german portuguese or even russian, you will have somewhat easier to learn english because all of these languages are either germanic or at least indo-european.
@@morganjonasson2947 English has nothing from Chinese, the most spoken language on Earth, also tldr (and don't give me another one)
@@benia1908 If you feel like tldr, then improve your reading skills and read again. your argument is already addressed in my reply and my reply measures around 200 words. If you think 200 words is too much, you have attention span issues.
@@morganjonasson2947 >Both language suffer from the fact that they don't have any neighbour languages that come from the same family tree
exactly, this is why English still has flaws as the true international language
There will never be a neutral language for everyone. Every language will be easier for native speakers of some languages compared to others. I think that Esperanto was a good try. I like Interlingua the most as a conlang, as it is unabashedly trying to focus on the Romance languages (with some English as a kind of tie-breaker), and also takes away the difficult grammar.
It was a good try, but still failed.
The thing is, most people don't want to learn any foreign language at all.
In my country, most don't even have an International passport to travel.
As for those, who care they aren't bothered so much with its difficulty. In fact a difficult language even has an advantage, because mastering it gives you an edge over the lazy crowd.
Also people don't necessarily learn languages to talk with all people around the world, but rather because some culture is "superior" in their opinion and gives them possibilities, so they want to be a member of the "club".
The problem with interlingua is that it is much harder to speak it fluently than Esperanto. I speak Esperanto fluently and Interlingua is easy to understand for speakers of Romance languages
@@alalexesc I would guess that you have not studied them equally. And of course for those who studied Interlingua, they may think that it's easier to speak fluently than Esperanto (unless you are pointing to some unmentioned feature of the language itself). And as you mentioned, for speakers of Romance languages, Interlingua should be extra simple to learn. So I'd say it depends. From the little that I know, both Interlingua and Esperanto seem to be quite simple to learn as languages go (simple grammar, regularity, etc).
@@KnightOfEternity13 "still failed"
Hard to succeed when Esperanto gets almost accepted as an international language at the league of Nation, but France and France only objects because they want to keep their monopoly as the language of diplomacy (which they lost to english), and then the nazis killed off many jews which Esperantists disproportionnately were, including Zamenhof's family.
Being the world leading language has little to do with being a good language and a lot to do with being the language of a world power. English for the western world, Russian for the east when the USSR was a thing. If the US and Europe were to lose a world war (which I definetly hope they won't, they're bad but the alternatives are so much worse) you'd have chinese becoming a world language. Esperanto was never going to become THE international language, but it definetly had a shot at being wildly more popular than it is but got blocked by fucking french and nazis.
Toki pona
Saluton kara, mi estas el Egiptujo kaj Esperanto estas sufiĉa bona kaj justa lingvo por ĉiuj. Mi povas kompreni la anglan sed mi ne ŝatas kaj kapablas paroli ĝin kiel Esperanto. La germana estis por mi falcila ol la angla. Ne ĉiuj homoj kapablas paroli la anglan bone kaj ne ĉiuj homoj povas atingi altan nivelon en la lingvoj kaj mi per Esperanto konaktis kun multaj homoj pli multe kompare dum mia lernado de aliaj lingvoj kaj Dankon. Kaj estas Ĉinaj Esperantistoj, kiuj bone scipovas la lingvon.
Saluton samideano 😜🖖
يا حبيبي، ان العربية حسنى من اي لغة. تستحق ان تكون اللغة العالمية.
@@erikdalna211 لغة جميلة صحيح ولكن عملية للاستخدام العالمي؟! ليس تماماً الاصوات ليست قياسية، القوانين ليست ثابتة، ونمط الكتابة مغاير تماماً للمعتاد في اغلب اللغات.... زِد على ذلك كونها وبصورة تقريبة لغة ذات طابع ديني على وجه العموم، يجب التفكير بموضوعية لمراعاة جميع جوانب اللغة المعتمدة من سهولة اللفظ إلى سهولة النحو والكتابة، الاسبرانتو حققت ذلك، الانجليزية لم تفعل ذلك من ناحية النطق والكتابة.
Mi ne nomus min samideano -- mi estas ja raŭmisto -- sed mi tute konsentas, ke Esperanto havas sian valoron kaj sian belecon, kaj Language Simp is just simply plain totally goddamn #$*! wrong with his misesperantism.
@@Asehpethank you for showing everyone how unhinged esperantists are.
Props to you for not switch baiting and actually saying you love Esperanto and its your mother tongue and the secret to eternal life. Respect!
Лэнгвич Симп, ты настоящий гигачад! Я не могу тебе указывать, что делать, но я хочу предложить тебе подумать о том, чтобы снять обзор на латынь (Latin). Это может быть коллаборация с Люком Раньери (Luke Ranieri), aka polyMATHY, aka Scorpio Martianus. Можно указать в достоинствах, что этот язык позволяет выучить одновременно испанский, португальский, сицилийский, румынский и каталанский. Ну и итальянский, может быть, тоже. Word inflections там почти как в русском, это тоже можно как-нибудь ржачно обыграть.
I believe the most ideal lingua franca would be Mongolian. It is just put simply, a gigachad language with cool history behind it and overall is pretty easy to learn. 😊
And you can throat sing in Mongolian too!
And it should be throat sung not spoken
But The official language in chad are french and Arabic
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I think the global lingua franca should be Hungarian. There's no bias here as it's impossible to learn for anyone trying to!
Pontosan, egyetértek veled.
A légpárnásom tele van angolnákkal.
The Duolingo lessons on Hungarian were the hardest. It begins with the hardest types of sentences. That made me give up on learning Hungarian.
@@30803080308030803081 Yes, Duolingo Hungarian is notoriously bad and is enough to put anybody off learning Hungarian.
Hungarian is so easy. Even a child can learn it. I learned Hungarian when I was a baby and now I speak it fluently.
@@randomhungarianperson Hmmmm.. something seems a little bit sus here. I could not pinpoint what exactly though
Personally I think the Ulster dialect of Irish should be the world language
English (American???) is pretty much the stupidest choice for an international language. It has all the disadvantages that you are dishing up for Esperanto. On top of that it is as irregular as hell, for many words you can't tell how they have to be pronounced when you read them and due to the medieval Great Vowel Shift all vowels are pronounced the wrong way.
Fun fact: after WW1, there were talks in the League of Nations about making Esperanto the lingua franca, but the French vetoed it to "protect the special status of the French language". So if you don't support Esperanto, you're literally no better than the French. Sorry, I don't make the rules. 🐸
Yes you did
as a baguettebro, I am proud of this decision
@@abarette_ Your nation is responsible for Am*rican being the global language.
Living in Denmark I speak Danish - but I don´t whine about the fact that I can only use it together with other Danish speaking people and that it´s not understood and spoken all over the world. It works for me together with other Danish speaking people. The same with Esperanto. It works together with those who speak too. Yes, it didn´t become the second language to the whole world. But that´s how ideas work. U.N. was probably meant to bring peace and understanding too to the world. It didn´t, but it´s still there.
The video destroyed my desire to learn Esperanto, but your comment brought me back up again. I was feeling guilty about learning a language I LIKE wth
Danish is a cool language, I study it in the US.❤
@@AdrianDuknes Never be afraid to learn something you genuinely enjoy or are passionate about. Honestly seeing this video and my defensive reaction to the frankly kind of silly attack on esperanto has motivated me to go through with learning Toki Pona. The language is just fascinating to me. Lojban is as well, but Toki Pona is considerably simpler so probably gonna start with that lol
I understand and respect your opinion, but I disagree when you said that Americans deserve to be their mother tongue as an international language. I took at least 4 years studying English to be able to have a conversation, and I'm still learning. I mean, I'm not even fluent... 75 days ago , I decided to learn Esperanto, and in terms of comparison, I would say that I've learned as much Esperanto as 1,5 years of English. I'm not an activist or Esperantisto as they call themselves, I wanted to learn it just for a hobby, and because I liked the way it sounds. I honestly don't believe it'll be the international language, but just in case I'll be ready 😂 on the other hand, the learning is being pleasurable and funny.
None of the bad things you say about Esperanto can even remotely compare
to the subtle yet deep pleasure of participating in a Internacia Kongreso de Esperanto...
I'm a total Raŭmisto: I think Esperanto exists, has a culture, a cool community of Esperantists, and via the pasporta servo opens the doors to traveling to other countries at a reasonable price. I've gone to several countries speaking Esperanto, and it's helped me quite a lot. And hey -- if Trekkies and anime fans can have their own world, then la tutmondaj esperantistoj ankaŭ povas ekzisti, bone kaj feliĉe!
And don't get me started on the REAL international conlang which is 100% better than Esperanto: Volapük. Si no kanols spikön Volapüki, no sevols, kio binon läb verätik in vol obsik at. O pük jönik kion!
Why noone likes esperanto rather
And I totally agree with Toki Pona as global language
Also a common European language could be reconstruction of Proto-indoeuropean
Toki Pona is too hard to say something a little more complex than something very basic, Proto-Indoeuropean is too hard to learn (and maybe not very well known (we don't know what H1, H2 and H3 are, I don't know how much we know about syntax but I think it's not very much))
Just use Latin again
@@FakePaleThe Germanic and Slavic people whose languages didn't evolve from Latin: 👁👄👁
@@heinrich.hitzinger +Baltic, Greek, Albanian, Celtic, Roma
@@heinrich.hitzinger Those still used Latin as the language of scholarship and diplomacy for most of their history
Really the only ones who would have valid reason to argue are the Greeks
No joke: American Sign Language is the best first second language. I’ve gotten more real world use from the little bit of ASL I learned back in the 80s than any other language. And like Mandarin, when you start doing sign language the locals start doing backflips in celebration. ❤ Upon finding out that I knew a little bit of ASL, I was offered a job ON THE SPOT at a place where I was temping. Insane!
But American deaf people are so political and weird about sign language.
@@30803080308030803081 How so? I am very curious about this!
It is undoubtedly the best first second language for someone living in the United States, alongside Spanish. It certainly is not going to be of much use outside the USA though of course, since it is distantly related to French Sign Language but not to anything else.
@@30803080308030803081 Hey, I don't know about the situation in there, but here in Brazil, LIBRAS (br sign language) had a very long and recent history of being legalized, few decades ago it was straight up prohibited (by the person in charge of the national deaf's school mind you) in favor of oralization. So you sort of need to get political about it, people being unaware of it's history caused many dehumanizing problems to them.
@@salvadorromero9712 the best second languages are your local sign language and you local lingua franca and/or second most spoken language, for exemple if you're from Brazil (like i am), the best languages to learn (for real world use) would be Libras, Spanish and English
Esperanto must be learned after having learned all the languages of the world in order to reach 100%, in any other case, just speak Russian.
as a Russian, I see this as an absolute win
as a Russian language fan, I see this as an absolute win
Ас а Руссиан лангуаге фан, И сее тхис ас ан абсолуте вин
@@Slavasil This hurt to read
@@legacywolf443 it hurts to write too :(
A fault finder would find fault in paradise. There are two types of people in this world: those who build and those who tear down. Be careful of empty people who have nothing to offer the world, but who spend their time trying to destroy what others have built.
Just face it bro Esperanto is too Eurocentric to be the global lingua franca
This video is hateful, Esperanto is a good language, its problem is adoption.
Why almost nobody learn Danish or Lithuanian? because it has few speakers, the same issue about Esperanto.
00:35 KEVIN ??
RIGHT I FEEL LIKE I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED
😭
Dankon pro ĉi tiu filmeto. Mi ĝojas ke vi amas esperanton nun. Ĝis!
thats what she said
@@bmkmymaggots Ŝi ŝatas nur alfa-beta-virojn kiuj parolas esperante
@@languageswithevanfek, mi parolas Esperanton, sed mi estas la sigma-viro kaj ne la alfa-beta-viro
It feels arrogant to say, but I think it's pretty clear that English is the most "international" language we currently have. More people speak it as a second language than as a first.
It just further reinforces America's unearned cultural dominance and forces several thousands of millions of people to spend years learning an annoying and highly irregular language while the Americans literally don't have to lift a finger because they already speak it fluently.
Oh, hang on. You didn't say American. You said English. Actually, I take it back. Good choice.
@@omp199I'm pretty sure most people who are fluent in english as a second language(like me) acquired it just by being involved with the internet, without dedicated study. But I do get that depends on how much time you spend on the internet so, I guess
@@omp199"tell me your american without telling me your american"
"I know only one language"
Latin should be the international language. It was the original international language used by several monks and aristocrats for centuries, not to mention that since few people today know it, everyone has to take part in knowing it. Valete!👋
@@therealspeedwagon1451 Yeah equal in how unsuitable for everyone it is. Not sure if that's the kind of equality people want. This is like making a country wealth equal by exiling all the rich people so only the poor are left
The fact that Esperanto is spoken so little is the reason why it makes such a great candidate for a form of cipher. Furthermore, the gazillion root words in it make it almost impossible to decipher.
Gazillion root words??? It has far fewer root words than English or other national/ethnic languages. Esperanto builds its vocabulary using suffixes and prefixes plus word compounding.
@@aviadiloStill, English gets a pass because most of the colonised world uses the language as a secondary or a tertiary. I have yet to meet a person who even knows that Esperanto exists.
@@hahahhahahahufool2114 I've met plenty of people who've heard of Esperanto.
@@aviadiloWith all due respect, you're just hanging around a different crowd. Only around 2 million people know Esperanto, which is under 0.1% of all humans.
Chinese and English are both in the billions, with Japanese and Spanish and other world languages reaching the 100 millions.
@@hahahhahahahufool2114 How many millions of people do you communicate with? I don't care if over one billion people speak Chinese. I have little to do with China apart from buying Chinese products. And if I need to contact people in China, there are plenty of Chinese Esperantists I can contact. I've been studying Italian the last five years, have done several intensive courses in Italy. Far more people speak Spanish, but I love Italy, visit often and so Italian is far more useful to me than Spanish or Chinese or Indonesian. In fact, Esperanto is far more useful to me than those three languages. The number of speakers is irrevelant.
My vote is for Polish. Not because I'm a Polkaphile, but because it's got a lot of good things going for it linguistically and, unlike its Slavic siblings, it uses an alphabet a lot of the planet is already familiar with. Also, Poland will rise again and dominate the globe. We're already seeing signs of it become the next greatest economy in the Europe. It's either that or the Chinese will impose Mandarin on us all.
Polish has probably the most messed up Latin writing system
I vote for Polish too, despite I am Russian. You know the reason. Kurwa.
Most sane polskaphile
also: other Slavic languages that use the Latin alphabet while making it dyslexic-proof: *staring menacingly*
Kurwa ja pierdole... Though Polish has too much hissing sounds that's why I don't really like it that much
@@o_s-24 Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz moment. (It could be written easier if poles decided to make rz, sz, cz combinations as one letter but it was too much effort for them)
Hungarian is the best language for global communication, extremely simple to learn , easy to pronounce, words and word order doesn't change.
It does seem easy to pronounce.
True. You can memoritse the agglutnations in your sleep and even when deceased
Petition for Language Simp to review Toki Pona 👇
wile tawa ni: jan Language Simp li lukin e toki pona 👇
pona a!
mi pilin e ni: „review” li sama ala e „lukin e”, li sama e „toki tawa”
Sonja Lang, the creator of Toki Pona, is an esperantist. There are Esperanto influences in her language.
o toki pona!
@@janPolijan a. mi sona e sina. sina pana e toki lon sitelen tawa mi
At Duolingo, I quit Esperanto because I couldn't hear the difference between "mi" and "ni" in the listening exercises.
This is a fundamental flaw in Esperanto regarding hearing impairments, poor audio quality, radio communications, and ventriloquist dummies trying to speak Esperanto.
The singular pronouns are *mi/vi/li* (I, you, he) and the plural pronouns are *ni/vi/ili* (we, you, they). I think the plural pronouns should be *ini/ivi/ili* (we, you, they) which would help tremendously. I can't be the first person to identify this problem and propose an elegant solution.🙂
At a company celebration for employees who had reached various milestones of employment (5 years, 10 years, etc.), I was asked to stand up and reveal an unknown fact about myself. I said that I was learning Esperanto.
There was a deathly silence. As all the other attendees stared at me like I was a freak.
Which I was. 😂
Jokes aside, Esperanto was very useful when I first became interested in learning Romance languages. It didn’t carry the trauma of my 7th grade Spanish class, or the cruelty I experienced at the hands of Very Evil French Instructors in college. I consider it the training wheels of language, and just like training wheels, should be discarded soon afterward.
And yeah, Esperanto was absolutely of NO USE whatsoever when I fell in love with Georgian, Russian, Ukrainian, Greek, and Norwegian. Won’t help with Bulgarian either. Boo.
No use when learning Russian? Speaking Esperanto you already knew about sia/lia, words like "kolbaso" "krom", etc.
@@Kanguruo French is what really helped me with Russian.
You learn Georgian? Wow, you have my utmost respect
I think it still helps to learn other languages, it helped me with Chinese and for starters the biggest help is to prove the students is not bad at languages, give them some self confident and a successful experience in learning the first foreign language. Also communicating with other speakers is a nice experience most of the times, it makes you want to learn more languages cause most of them are or get naturally into languages afterwards
kiel esperanto-parolanto, mi plene konsentas kun la supre, esperanto devas esti detruita☝️
Jes.
mdr
esperanto havas stultan nomon kaj ĝi gejas
@@Deckbark Estas tre bone, ke Esperanto gejas.
Quale idisto ke me es, Esperanto eble devus destruesar
I have a confession. I took Esperanto for a week😭😭😭
I prescribe you 2 weeks of proto-albanian as penance
I took it for a year, got bored, then I changed to Klingons. My roommate kept calling me a beta nerd and I wasn't sure why.
@@nokaton Based made-up language for war aliens vs cringe made-up spanish for dumbs
that's probably long enough to learn the language depending on how many hours a week you studied
@@professorarielne, semajno estas tre malmulte, sed monato estas suficxe, mi pensas
Many language contains some unnecessary complications. For example: English pronunciation and exceptions, French silent letters and numbers, German genders for objects, concatenated words and special characters, Russian genders for objects and special characters. I like Spanish punctuation before the sentences, Italian pronunciation, Esperanto grammar.
I think a simplified, logical language is a good idea.
I was hardcore into learning esperanto until I remembered that languages evolve, and that if everyone spoke it, In a few hundred years some parts of the population will be unable to understand other parts and the purpose will be defeated.
The purpose was to implement a lingua franca for present time, I doubt that somebody would care for centuries ahead
i think esperanto can be good to learn because its based on a bunch of european languages so i think it would help you to learn other european languages
Kinda.
But I think you can as well just learn one of these romance languages with similar benefits.
For example, because I've learned French in university, I can grasp many similar ideas in Spanish.
If I'd learned Esperanto... wouldn't be so easy. It lacks for example complex verb system, traditional for Romance languages.
Complete video about Toki Pona and how it's absolutely giga chad of international languages while not even attempting being one as its first goal!!!!
most linguistically intelligent toki ponist (they think learnability is the only thing that matters)
@@kiwenmanisuno Least linguistically intelligent toki ponist (me) is taking linguistic courses in uni but good try!!!
Plus toki pona is also gigachad at mostly everything i'll proudly keep defending sonia lang supremacy
@@joaquinalvarez2784 When you go back to class, try imagining how hard it would be for your teacher to explain everything in Toki Pona. Or imagine if you were translating a law book into Toki Pona.....
@@chickenstrangler3826 Toki Pona accounts for that, it truly is easier and more understandable than it would be for a mandarin speaker to understand a law book translated into Esperanto
An international language has to be Eurocentric as European languages are already spoken all over the world, moreover practically every scientific words come from European languages. The world just don't need influences from Austronesian languages or Zulu dialects
Thank you for the vid. I will love to study Esperanto now
4:17 Бөек Татарстанны күрсәткән өчен рәхмәт!
Thanks for showing the greatest state of all - Tatarstan
Hmm, in the beginning I thought I need to write a comment negating every point made, but as it gets more and more absurd, it's negating itself.
Unfortunately there will be people not catching the irony.
(One of these brainwashed people here. I even once sat in a room with the inventor of Toki Pona, and many years later helped to translate a song from Esperanto to Toki Pona, without having learned Toki Pona myself. I didn't know this channel before, but I guess UA-cam suggested this video to me because it has "Esperanto" in the title?)
Welsh should be the international language because it's extremely easy and has funny sonorities
4:24 I remember randomly learning about Esperanto online back in like the mid-2010s when I had just graduated high school. I was seriously considering devoting some time to learning the language but luckily realized how not easy it was going to be. I'm not even sure why I was interested in it back then. Maybe I drank the Kool-Aid and really thought it would be the universal language of the future one day. Seems like English is the almost universal language right now.
5:53 But you have inferior potassium.
Personnaly I think québécois french should be the international language, its not widely spoken so almost every one would have to learn it and it sound good compare to american , but I think it would require a lot of efforts for people (even french) to learn the pronounciation and I'm probably biased by the fact that québécois french is my native language and I like it so much. Another problem would be the fact you can't write it, in school we learn to write a standard french because of that.
Z'êtes tous délu, le québécois c'est juste du français prononcé avec un accent bizzarre
No form of French sounds good compared to American. In fact, no form of French sounds good compared to _any_ language.
@@thethrashyone You're wrong.
As for Russian who was learning Esperanto, it is very easy to pronounce for me)
I know several Russians that speak Esperanto and some of the language was even based on Russian, so I was also shocked when he used that as an example.
Esperanto is a language Made in Russia 🇷🇺♥️
@@Zodamay but he was Polish and language is really based on Italian
@@konstantin_troitskiy Russia is a multicultural country to say that someone is not Russian because they are Chukchi or Kalmyk is silly.
Esperanto is not based on Italian, it has mainly Romance, Germanic and Slavic roots.
@@Zodamay For the majority of his life, LL Zamenhof lived in the cities of Bialystok and Warsaw, which were part of the Russian empire until his final years. Bialystok was a multiethnic city, with Poles, Germans, Russians, and Jews living in it. Despite this, Zamenhof noticed as a child that there were frequent conflicts between the different groups. He suspected that this was because they did not speak the same languages, and thus he was convinced that an international language would be an important step in achieving human peace.
Zamenhof himself had two native languages, learning Russian from his father and Yiddish from his mother. He was also fluent in Polish and German, and had studied other languages, such as French and English.
After listening to this I started to learn Esperanto. So a big Thx.!
Verdire mi atendis, ke tiu estus amuza filmeto, sed vi faris vere informan filmeton. Malgraŭ mi parolas Esperanton, mi kunsentas, ke ĝi estas malbona por vere neŭtrala internacia interparolado - mi mem faris filmeton pri tio.
Honestly I expected this to be a funny video, but you made a truly informative video. Although I speak Esperanto, I agree it's bad for real neutral international communication - I even made a video about this.
dankon, kaj tre bona argumento!
Mi tute konsentas!
*Malgraŭ, ke mi parolas ☝️🤓
Salutojn, karaj samideanoj. La gasto nur skercis pri nia lingvo. 😁
I spent a month going through Esperanto a few years back, and barely looked at it since. Yet I understood everything you wrote. Highly regular rules regarding verbs, nouns, adjectives & adverbs is the key to language creation and rapid learning. Credit where due to Zamenhof.
I think the international language should be Norwegian since it’s easy to learn and we all know it’s the best Scandinavian language and does not give you throat problems like danish and doesn’t have a weird word for window like Swedish plus it’s easy to learn since even children can speak it plus it’s just the best
I like that ‘weird word for window’ is your chosen critique of Swedish here lol
Fenster in German
Fönster in Swedish
I love Toki Pona (I make videos in it, have a look)... but should it be THE international language, as you say? Although, yes, you could use it in that way, note that it does not need to be. As it was never created for that purpose, Toki pona is primarily just chill, enjoyable, and useful as a personal or community language.
I agree. It's a chill language but it would become so mentally taxing to use it as an international auxiliary language
ken ala a, jan polijan a!
mi sona e sina a!
tokiiiiii
@@paper2222 toki a!
I like Toki Pona 'cause it sounds cute. I learned it in like two months too so it didn't cost me much.
Russian could easily be the international language because no other language has Ы and Ъ together
La kialo kial Putino kondutas tiel
Ыыыы
Runglish*
Эээяячччшшшжжжюююццц 😊
They don't go together though) And Korean has Ы as well, it is esven written somewhat similar 으 )))
I tried Esperanto on Duolingo and I understood almost everything completely, because of my knowledge of uralic, romance and slavic languages
"America invented democracy"
Greece:💀
I think Gibberish should be the international language of the world. It's so easy! It takes 2 week to become fluent. It only has 105 words and no verb conjugations, genders, or any of that bs! It uses elements from EVERY language! Here are some examples:
Hello: Hollo (Hola + Hello)
Goodbye: Zaidios (Zai Jain + Adios)
What's your name?: Comment de name? (Comment tu m'apple? + Como de llamas? + What's you're name?)
I don't know much aboug constructed languages, but I always dreamed of creating one from studying real life languages and some fictional constructed languages briefly. Mine would be based on "expanding your way of thinking", including every feature I think is sociologically and psychologically helpful from every language, that is, thinks that make communication more precise and thinking more precise -- for example: some languages have three forms of "we/us/our", one for "you and me", one for "me and somebody else", and one for "all of us/everyone", neatly packaged in a single word. Many languages have interssting diacritics or punctuation for the written language, I really like Spanish's "¿?", for example, because you can be specific and unambigous where the question starts without having to rephrase.
Edit: Romance languages usually differentiate between "being right now" and "has always been.
Contrast "Richard enn lil' Feline is bald" with "Richard enn lil' Feline está careca" and "Richard enn lil' Feline é careca".
Hawaian has form for "we without me".
if you interested, try to google Ithkuil. The creator tried to make the language as precise as he could - it ended up very interesting. It expands thinking very much.
Esperanto is good for people from other continents who want to learn European languages (especially Romance) as it will help them understand how they work and will make it easier for them to learn them. It will take a lot less time for them to learn it then other languages as it has simpler grammar with no exceptions.
Correct. But then they will have spent that time and effort learning a nearly useless language. Is for instance, Esperanto, then Spanish, really easier than simply learning Spanish from the start? I have serious doubts. I do not even think that even if your ultimate goal is to learn *multiple* languages, that for instance Esperanto, then Spanish, then Italian will really be easier and quicker than simply Spanish, then Italian.
@@salvadorromero9712 True, in most cases I completely agree. What this would be best for is for people have an extreme difficulty learning Spanish or another romance languages to learn Esperanto in order help them have a better understanding of them.
@@thecosmos729then just learn portugese
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 Unfortunately there aren't many resources available to learn Portuguese in my country.
as someone who speaks esperanto and even teaches it to other people, I agree with everything you said LOL
A few days ago, there was a guy that in the French channel on Discord, he wanted everyone to learn Esperanto.