How to Reduce Wheel Hop on a FWD Car

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  • Опубліковано 28 тра 2020
  • With light wheels and grippy tires paired with soft bushings and engine mounts, wheel hop is a thing and it can be extremely destructive. In this video, you will see how problematic my control arms are, and how I get around to solving the problem.
    Later in the video where I say the arms nearly fixed it, I was wrong. IT SOLVED IT!! Under load, you’ll see my suspension lift which made me think it was moving. You’ll see what I mean!
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  • @milanmastracci
    @milanmastracci  3 роки тому +6

    Since my new Civic is going to be replacing this Accord, these control arms are for sale. For details, email me at milanmastracci@gmail.com

    • @alexc.20
      @alexc.20 3 роки тому

      just emailed you!!

    • @HondaAccordPerformance
      @HondaAccordPerformance 2 роки тому

      Are there any bushing options for 9g guys I only see poly bushings for the 8g accords (up to 2012) thanks

    • @bryannasosa3717
      @bryannasosa3717 2 роки тому

      are these still for sale?

  • @amdstrollo3074
    @amdstrollo3074 2 роки тому +7

    Mil your videos are super concise, extremely well edited and presented, I genuinely want more people to watch you man, I hope your channel keeps growing.

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  2 роки тому

      I hope so too! Thanks for the feedback brother 👊 feel free to share some of my videos!

  • @vikassm
    @vikassm 4 роки тому +4

    WOW! I've repaired stuff on cars before and knew wheel hop was a thing, but that wheel hop looks quite extreme! Maybe newer cars have more of a squishy bushing for added comfort. Now I know why my softer tyres wore out so quickly despite proper alignment, balancing and rotation. Thanks for a great video!

  • @ZayedGR
    @ZayedGR 4 роки тому +50

    after ciss fix i think this is the only channel i know... who explains everything perfectly... love you bro keep it up piece

  • @fredoo9835
    @fredoo9835 4 роки тому +24

    8:46 I see you looking at that girl 👀😂

    • @SpaceMissile
      @SpaceMissile 3 роки тому

      just watching out for pedestrians. #safetyfirst 😏

  • @Alienpatel
    @Alienpatel 4 роки тому +1

    BEST CHANNEL been following for years helped me a ton with my v6 coupe

  • @z20lehcorsa67
    @z20lehcorsa67 4 роки тому +2

    Perfect time for this video to come out checked mine yesterday and noticed they were shot and been looking at upgrading

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      These will be a big upgrade over the stock rubber 🔥

  • @thetraindriver01
    @thetraindriver01 4 роки тому +1

    Loved the explanation with the arrows, very straight forward to understand, thanks. Missing the old outtro though, keep up the good work Milan 👍👍👍👍

  • @mickeyslim
    @mickeyslim 4 роки тому

    came from your 2 yr old 100$ sand cabinet video and you got a new sub I like car content

  • @bodhicastellano399
    @bodhicastellano399 2 місяці тому

    Just got a ‘13 accord v6 coupe and noticed this when driving hard on corners and when trying to launch the car, im definitely gonna look into upgrading my control arms, wheels, tires, and shocks

  • @MayorMcCheese47
    @MayorMcCheese47 3 роки тому +4

    Great vid, I really gotta get this done the wheel hop on my 9th gen accord v6 coupe is BRUTAL lol

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks man! Those bushings paired with better engine mounts make every difference 🙌

    • @eissadaghmash1556
      @eissadaghmash1556 2 роки тому

      I have the same car and it soons so much before it launches😭

  • @edwardtejeda3756
    @edwardtejeda3756 4 роки тому +7

    There’s still deflection because your upper control arm has rubber bushings as well

  • @ramuelsolomon4032
    @ramuelsolomon4032 4 роки тому

    I love everything you vlog,well explained and nice presentation,keep it up sir and always stay safe,long time subscriber here from the philippines,always stay connected👍😊.

  • @SJSOmar
    @SJSOmar 4 роки тому

    I’ve been planning to do poly Bushings for so long now to my saab 9-3 I will be making a homemade strut brace also

  • @cbarria90
    @cbarria90 4 роки тому

    What an awesome guide man, how you doing with the k20/24 frank build ? I think a lot of us are waiting the next episode !!

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      Working on it! Waiting for my machinist to get the valve guides honed 👍

  • @martinsvardsjo3946
    @martinsvardsjo3946 4 роки тому

    Great video, Thanks man! 👍🏻

  • @maxxu2701
    @maxxu2701 4 роки тому

    excited for the dyno

  • @Nevi_Savage
    @Nevi_Savage 4 роки тому

    Vid on what questions I should as the tuner and when to know if I'm paying to much for a tune

  • @thomascanning595
    @thomascanning595 4 роки тому

    Good stuff milan!!

  • @EsarnHuaKUY
    @EsarnHuaKUY 2 роки тому

    Wow!!! Great video.

  • @brian3532
    @brian3532 4 роки тому

    Daaang zaddy with the shades 😍

  • @Eji66
    @Eji66 4 роки тому

    I need to do this in my car. I have also noticed shifting motor mounts have helped my mazda with launching, accelerating, and under decel.

  • @mugensamurai
    @mugensamurai 4 роки тому +1

    Now this is some good info.

  • @Pgcmoore
    @Pgcmoore 4 роки тому

    outstanding!!!

  • @imJGott
    @imJGott 4 роки тому

    to eliminate wheel hop there are something you would need to change/upgrade and or add. im speaking from an integra point of view: lower torque upgrade from rubber to polyurethane and the most noticeable upgrade is to add a traction bar. these items will eliminate wheel hop

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 4 роки тому

    Cool video😎

  • @vsg3245
    @vsg3245 4 роки тому +1

    2nd comment ...Love your videos bro💯👏👏cant wait for the mini to be running again

  • @looslimb
    @looslimb 4 роки тому +1

    As usual, this is a sweet upgrade and one i have been looking into. I found urethane replacement bushing, but struggled to find anything like these links... nice! Are there by any chance part numbers that i ask for or look for on the site, because they do not have an auto breakdown that i could see. Part numbers would be a huge help. Thanks again for the great and typically spot on content! 😉

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      They have a kit designed for the Honda Accord. I'd send them a message to find the kit 👍

    • @looslimb
      @looslimb 4 роки тому

      @@milanmastracci I checked with them and they only offer a kit for up to a 2007 Accord. Mine being a 2012 they said they don't offer anything for my year Accord. Not sure what is so different, but...
      Will need to do some more research. Disappointed.

    • @jtworksoncars6341
      @jtworksoncars6341 2 роки тому

      You shouldn't use poly bushings for the compliance bushing due to how the bushing is designed to flex. The stock bushings moves more like a bearing, so poly wouldn't work in that location.

  • @pindaqwert
    @pindaqwert 4 роки тому

    You are amazing Milan.
    Always wait for your precious videos.
    Just love them

  • @humzamalik1704
    @humzamalik1704 4 роки тому

    Bro, those wheels look killer🔥. I just bought enkei Rajjin wheels not too long ago but they look similar to urs. I wish we could meet up but I’m all the way in Manitoba 🤣😂.

  • @miltongimenez45
    @miltongimenez45 4 роки тому

    Traction bar really helps to

  • @m4nu47
    @m4nu47 4 роки тому

    Milan, you can also install some traction bars to delete this movement :) Just as an fyi from germany !

  • @moneyman89065
    @moneyman89065 4 роки тому

    When you doing the motor build for accord I’m waiting

  • @mkygod
    @mkygod 2 роки тому

    So if i have wheel hop now, will it get even worse if i only upgrade to stickier tires?

  • @kd2833
    @kd2833 3 роки тому

    Does those pu lowering bushes ruin comfort more fibrations in the interieur ?

  • @joemama-fh8ll
    @joemama-fh8ll 4 роки тому

    I have a 09 fit. My driver side axle snapped in half going 10 mph turning. The car doesnt move any direction. Could this be as easy as replace the axle or did it mess up the transmission in the process?

  • @fsilva1511
    @fsilva1511 4 роки тому

    I went to the site but I’m not sure which are the ones that are my size for the spherical bearings, help? I have a 2008 accord coupe as well

  • @Mrcool179
    @Mrcool179 4 роки тому +1

    Buying a 2012 Honda Accord coupe v6 tmrw :)

  • @harsroopsohanpal2399
    @harsroopsohanpal2399 4 роки тому +2

    Monica loves your car.

  • @krayzie281
    @krayzie281 4 роки тому

    Got moog ball joints for my si weren’t quite the right fit oem is best

  • @aliqadri4672
    @aliqadri4672 2 роки тому

    Does the old radius rod bushing can do this type of wheel hop like wheel go forward and backward ???

  • @burningoceans5066
    @burningoceans5066 3 роки тому

    Followed the bushings link couldnt find them anywhere on the site, they still on there? Id like to buy some if you have an updated link.

  • @zackthomas2982
    @zackthomas2982 Рік тому

    What are the part numbers for the pci spherical bushings the link will not work for me

  • @andrewv2835
    @andrewv2835 3 роки тому

    Are you upgrading your suspension?

  • @matthew0457
    @matthew0457 4 роки тому +1

    What did you do to your car

  • @JasperSkallow
    @JasperSkallow 10 місяців тому

    Wanna give me a hand finding bushes for a forte Koup TD? In Australia here the shops don't reply when it's too technical 😂

  • @cheryee3659
    @cheryee3659 4 роки тому

    7th gen accord also same

  • @mostafahasn6999
    @mostafahasn6999 4 роки тому +14

    Brother I have one question, can I fill the OEM arm control with polyurethane , do you think it’s going to work ? 🤔 thank you

    • @imJGott
      @imJGott 4 роки тому +1

      i know people would do that with motor mounts back in the day with integra.

    • @AmirPomen
      @AmirPomen 4 роки тому

      Yes it will work... I did this on engine mounts, rear trailling arm and basically on any mounts that have compliance hole in it...
      Its provide a nice and firmer strength wihout the harshness if aftermarket full pu bushing...

  • @DougSJBrooks
    @DougSJBrooks 4 роки тому

    thats a mad amount of movement

  • @noblewon3507
    @noblewon3507 Рік тому

    Hey man great video! Like to ask you a question I have a 8th gen civic si. When I had full stock suspension other then coil overs I had no wheel hop. I changed the control arms and links and ball joints, hardrace very stiff. I also changed my coilovers. Now I have bad wheel hop. I do realize the new coilovers have a softer spring rate. Can that be the problem?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому +1

      It can be linked to a couple of things. Tire compound / grip, spring rates, bushing durometer / type, etc. Which control arms did you change, and what bushings do they have in them?
      This video might be beneficial to you: ua-cam.com/video/MwL-7JxzJjg/v-deo.html

  • @amarsh212
    @amarsh212 4 роки тому

    Hey man, any suggestions for an intake on a 2010 accord coupe I-4? Everything is stock and I am going to start small modifications one by one. Thanks!

    • @jtworksoncars6341
      @jtworksoncars6341 3 роки тому

      K&N Typhoon if you want an SRI and get Inken if you want CAI that can become an SRI.

  • @akim24
    @akim24 Рік тому

    Do the control arm upgrades reduce wheel hop as much as dog bone engine mounts? Which would you recommend to prioritize and why? Thank you!

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому +1

      I would prioritize this over engine mounts, however both would be ideal as they both reduce the amount of movement.

  • @definitionXrp
    @definitionXrp Рік тому

    And for the subframe do I upgrade to spherical bushings or poly urethane?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому

      For this car, the subframe is bolted directly to the chassis.

  • @kj232009
    @kj232009 Рік тому

    Had this happen today as I was backing out of a parking space. It scared the hell out me, felt like I only had 2 lug nuts on my rear passenger wheel or something

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому

      Yeah its sketchy!! Makes the entire vehicle shake like it's going to fall apart.

  • @kar2k
    @kar2k 3 роки тому

    Engine mounts?

  • @randomhobbies5796
    @randomhobbies5796 3 роки тому

    I damned learned something today

  • @passmethesaltplease9350
    @passmethesaltplease9350 4 роки тому

    Nice wheels what are the specs of the nt03s?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      The NT03 specs are 19x9.5+27, and my PF01s are 18x8.5+35

  • @KINGOFKINGZ1231
    @KINGOFKINGZ1231 4 роки тому +1

    Nankang Ar-1 are such underrated tires for the price you pay

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      Couldn't agree with you more! I have them on my Accord and MINI 🙌

    • @dmytromak5479
      @dmytromak5479 2 роки тому

      @@milanmastracci try Maxxis vr1

  • @alexmatos2900
    @alexmatos2900 4 роки тому

    Did you feel some vibration with the new stiff bushings?

  • @leslie7872
    @leslie7872 3 роки тому

    will this make torque steer even more pronounced.

    • @GreenJeep1998
      @GreenJeep1998 3 роки тому

      Probably reduce it, less stuff moving in unwanted ways under power. Big thing is going to be power and difference in axle length on the right side of the transaxle vs the left side.

  • @shabanajannik2600
    @shabanajannik2600 3 роки тому

    Max halloway?

  • @bchnts
    @bchnts 4 роки тому

    Can’t wait for the engine swap !!!!!!!

  • @manuelarcedebraga6842
    @manuelarcedebraga6842 3 роки тому

    Which bushing are you using? I checked the PCI website and I don't find any Accords.

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  3 роки тому +1

      You have to email them to get the part! I believe it is a TL or TSX specific bushing, with a sleeve to fit the Accord control arm

  • @davidgreen2055
    @davidgreen2055 4 роки тому

    whats the precise number for the spherical bushing

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      Spherical Bearing Kit -Front Lower Control Arm ('04-'08 TSX, '03-'07 Accord, '04-'08 TL), PLEASE INCLUDE SLEEVES FOR 2009 HONDA ACCORD

  • @dmytromak5479
    @dmytromak5479 2 роки тому

    How long will PCI bushings last? They're open to dust and dirt ... that's fine for track days, but what about daily use?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  2 роки тому +1

      They've lasted me with daily driving, winter driving, track driving, and have no play in them or signs of use really. I will degrease them and spray a bit of lubricant on them every once in awhile, but I'm yet to have any issues.

    • @dmytromak5479
      @dmytromak5479 2 роки тому

      @@milanmastracci Sounds great 👍

  • @DK-fv2zj
    @DK-fv2zj 4 роки тому

    Leann may have her problems down below, but she still looks great up above. Such a classic body style. Too bad they ended it. Hey, you got your hair cut LOL! Are things opening up in Ontario?

    • @MrLbpsniper
      @MrLbpsniper 4 роки тому

      Things are very slowly opening up in ontario here with restrictions on the amount of people that can be in a building at a time though

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      Yeah I know what you mean! I'm still annoyed that Honda never made the accord RWD or even AWD. It would have performed so much better!! Things are opening up in Ontario, but not barber shops. I couldn't stand how long my hair was getting so I gave in lol I got my mom to help me shave it ahah #1 on the sides and #4 up top 👌

  • @ricky5176
    @ricky5176 4 роки тому

    Wow .. Time to check my bushings ... But have no power tools lol

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      You can get this entire job done without the use of power tools 👍

  • @definitionXrp
    @definitionXrp Рік тому

    Upgrade motor mounts?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому

      Upgraded motor mounts make a big difference, of polyurethane DIY mounts like I made

  • @ryancatherwood528
    @ryancatherwood528 4 роки тому

    Where did you source your K24 engines I also live in the niagara area

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      I found one of them on FB marketplace 👍

    • @ryancatherwood528
      @ryancatherwood528 4 роки тому

      milanmastracci thanks for the reply what did you do with the tsx k24 bottom end

  • @sunnysidewilly8941
    @sunnysidewilly8941 4 роки тому

    Where can I get those flashing leds??

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      It only flashes like that because of my camera. In person, they don't flash.

  • @hondatriple6
    @hondatriple6 4 роки тому

    Kool video. Links to products dont work.

  • @datboii3756
    @datboii3756 4 роки тому

    Is this related to the front of my civic jumping when I take off

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      Yes! Same thing happening. That jumping and shaking feeling in the car is called wheel hop.

    • @truth4reel
      @truth4reel 4 роки тому

      @@milanmastracci for me engine mounts make the most difference for wheel hop at the expense of nvh

  • @mannycisneros1880
    @mannycisneros1880 4 роки тому

    Then Ig i gotta replace my bushings for my 88 accord

  • @arjitdhuria
    @arjitdhuria 4 роки тому

    What happened to K24 build?

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      I reached a hiccup. The machine shop didn't have the proper size hone for the inner diameter of the valve guides, and shipping has been stupid lately. Its coming!

  • @bloodgirl4
    @bloodgirl4 3 роки тому +1

    Me launching my 266k protege5 😅

  • @DRIVENROYALTY
    @DRIVENROYALTY 4 роки тому +3

    I thought you “gave away this car”

  • @brysonshires9742
    @brysonshires9742 4 роки тому +1

    I wonder how it'd be to replace the bushings with bearings

  • @triniwarrior16
    @triniwarrior16 4 роки тому

    traction bar end of story
    XD

  • @mikel9751
    @mikel9751 4 роки тому

    Is this a v6?

  • @ZayedGR
    @ZayedGR 4 роки тому

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @devn3813
    @devn3813 4 роки тому +1

    Its ridiculous they allow this to happen from the factory in performance cars. They need to have upgraded bushings and suspension so that our cars are not destroyed

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому

      Couldn't agree with you more! It's like they didn't even consider it when designing it

  • @Ivan-hx7cc
    @Ivan-hx7cc 4 роки тому

    finally got a haircut bro. nice haha

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I did! It was well needed ahha

    • @Ivan-hx7cc
      @Ivan-hx7cc 4 роки тому

      @@milanmastracci hahaha🙏

  • @definitionXrp
    @definitionXrp Рік тому

    So if it buy these I gotta get someone to make my spherical bushings fit in my new control arm part??? Whose can do that a mechanic? A welder? Exhaust man

    • @milanmastracci
      @milanmastracci  Рік тому

      If you have the OEM control arms, you only need to press them in. Most aftermarket ones aren't built to the exact same spec as OEM, so that's why I had to get mine machined.

  • @Tom-Travels
    @Tom-Travels 4 роки тому

    People say you are the most dangerous man on UA-cam.

  • @729Crew
    @729Crew 2 роки тому

    i drifted my fucking tsx going 85 i wasnt even turning it just started swerving lane to lane out of nowhere how can i make this never happen again

  • @zaydabbas1609
    @zaydabbas1609 3 роки тому

    Looks like my accord is missing a suspension upgrade 😳

  • @SothyRSem
    @SothyRSem 3 роки тому

    honda accord. 100 compound tire. Im done.

  • @willingless3389
    @willingless3389 4 роки тому +37

    Best way I find to fix a fwd car is to buy a rwd one 😂. Jokes

    • @flush_entity
      @flush_entity 4 роки тому +3

      i've learned to enjoy FWD. Both drive trains are quite great to drive on track, for some reason tho, i dislike AWD, the heavy understeer is always nerve racking

    • @Malficion
      @Malficion 4 роки тому +3

      @@flush_entity
      Nah, AWD is king. Just drive it like it's a FWD, your exit acelaration is your main weapon.

    • @eyoboyeegaming1187
      @eyoboyeegaming1187 3 роки тому

      Why did you come here just to talk shit?

    • @hondaforcedproduction2469
      @hondaforcedproduction2469 Рік тому

      😆😆😆 that's a good one though Lol

  • @mariof3823
    @mariof3823 2 роки тому

    My whole dash fell off