Copyright free music: Epidemic Sound vs. Artlist vs. Musicbed: It’s a Scam! (2023)
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We all need music for our videos. Sometimes it's hard to choose music provider. I've been using several providers over the year. For years I've been using the same provider for client work, but one year ago I though I had found the perfect provider for my UA-cam videos. I was scammed and fooled. Learn from my mistakes and avoid this ONE provider.
Watch this video to learn which one you should go for. Epidemic Sound, Artlist or Musicbed.
Using the link above will not pay me, but may give me a month of free Artlist services.
#artlist #musicbed #epidemicsound
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Musicbed was awful to deal with. Never, ever use Musicbed.
Couldn’t agree more! I was so shocked when they told me what I shared in this video 👆🏻
I once paid thousands of $ for a music license from Musicbed. A single song since it was a large sponsor. They had a hidden clause that disallowed google ad revenue and so they still claimed my video. This despite me being VERY clear about what I needed from the license. There is other stuff I don't wanna talk about publicly, but Musicbed/Film Supply are not creator friendly.
I use Epidemic, Monstercat, & Artlist now depending on my needs now and they have all treated me well. Although I agree having to approve each individual video does get tedious with client work.
I think it’s like you’re saying. You just need to figure out what works with your workflow! Thanks for sharing your experience!
thanks for your opinion too! its helpful indeed!
We were using Artlist for years. It’s a scam. They say that you have no problems using it on TikTok or UA-cam… lies. Flagged all the time. We cancelled. Then they’ve told us the tracks we have licenses for only covers IF we continuously keep the license!!! So anything created after the license end even though we previously had unlimited usage of the track, now it has limits. False advertising. Beware
what are you using now?
I was about to sign up for Epidemic Sounds, but your video made me think twice. I sat down and I thoroughly read their terms and agreements. I found it didn't fit what I wanted to do.
Thanks man appreciate the video! I do have a question. Will I be able to use this for my dropshipping Ads ?
I totally understand your frustration from a film maker's perspective. And while I could certainly write a novel on the topic of music licensing & micro-licensing, I'll say that overall it's probably a good thing that a site like epidemic or music bed wouldn't let you use music for anything outside of personal use (Vlogs, personal videos, etc...). I get the frustration on the spec ad side of things, but I think they do it to protect their artists and composers too. Music is so widely undervalued these days, and it often times feels like a crawl to the bottom. I'm trying not to be biased about this at all (For full transparency I am a composer who makes my living from licensing music). I don't write music for Epidemic, Artlist, or music bed, but hearing that art list's pro plan covers commercial use for a roughly $20 subscription plan is definitely not sustainable. I think it should be a case by case basis depending on the client. This is where things can get grey offering micro licenses, because so many youtubers/filmmakers will dabble with commercial gigs too. It's really important to know what type of licenses you're agreeing to. Like I mentioned, I definitely understand your frustration with these companies, but knowing that companies like music bed cracks down on the commercial licenses is a green flag in my book overall. I'd rather put my high quality music in the hands of a company that would protect their artist's rights .
The second you get any brand involved (Spec ad or not), the license should move to a business license as opposed to the personal license you signed up for. Personal use should stay personal use, and business should apply to more commercial work.
Regardless, this was a great video and I loved hearing your perspective on this!
This adds context. Cheers!
As a professional filmmaker who has their films on Tubi, Amazon, etc... can I used Atlist music and sound eFX with no restrictions and no licensing issues?
Very good video. Thank you so much. What does the client have to do if I use Arlist music in their video?
This review is pure gold! I used Epidemic Sound to make videos, and that was just fine. Recently I`ve started to create non-talking shorts where the right song will be the key to the specific mood. Trending, uploaded music on UA-cam suits me perfectly! But as I know, I wouldn`t be able to monetize those videos (another super-unclear thing), if I`ll ever get the monetization lol. So I was struggling with what to choose: cool mood, or opportunity to monetize in the future! I`m happy that I have a reason to try Artlist, as you brought up your experience and told it`s def not bad))
Very happy to hear this was helpful to you!
It’s hard to find the right one, as there are a lot of options out there. It doesn’t help that some creators are paid to promote a service, because it makes it harder to get the real experience.
Good luck with your monetizing!
I read it just before. Epidemic says you can use it as a background, not the main theme.
You can always contact composers directly and get bespoke tailor-made music for your films. Furthermore, licenses for such work-for-hire arrangements typically don’t cost too much for online use.
Thank you for your sharing! I'm planning on making a youtube channel about relaxing music. I can get music from the above channels (epidemicsound or Artist), then in the future I can get UA-cam to enable monetization?
Musicbed also don't make it 100% clear that most of their music will get a copyright claim on UA-cam.
So even though you have a valid license, if your channel is monetised, you won't get the money.
Like, what's the point in the license then? I could've got the song from a digital store for a dollor & let the artist get the youtube money.
Artlist for the win. No issues whatsoever!
True true! Hard to understand how they can survive in this business ...
Man you've saved me a lot of time deciding on which I should subscribed to next year. And hey great color grading! Subscribing to you bro!
We had a 1 year subscription for Epidemic sound (we got it 50% off, I am guessing it's not possible to have another code if we renew the subscription?) But anyway, I think about canceling Epidemic and go for Artlis, well, it will be some different music. One question, for Artlist, you add the social media channels in the account and it's all cleared for the personal account? How does it work for client videos, how do you cleare them? Thank you.
Artlist is by far the easiest. You simply use it and download a licensing card, showing that you have the right to use the song!
I live in Brazil, whoever subscribes to Epidemic Sound for the first time and subscribes annually gets a 50% discount?
Bro if i make client video and use artlist music and the video witll be promotion on Facebook and instagram of the client it will be problem with the copyright or what or do i have to give them the pdf license?
This was so helpful! Also, I love your background colors!!! I can't believe you are not at a thousand followers yet, your content and video quality is AWESOME!
Thank you! Really appreciate this!
😄 I noticed that to while i was busy trying to figure out his lighting setup.
Valid. Thanks for pointing out the differences. One thing I really appreciate with Epidemic Sound is the option to download the stems of a song. It really improves the entire process around sound design. Does Artlist have that option, too?
Thanks for watching!
I agree with you. That’s something I really liked about ES myself. Unfortunately, I have not seen any of the other services having this feature.
@kriswarwick SoundStripe has that service.
I appreciate this information… I’m trying to figure out all of this for a new channel I’m starting and it’s giving me a headache… learning to play blues slide guitar myself would be easier than finding a license/subscription that I can be confident in, and I mean that literally.
I agree, it's hard to find the right sound track that you are looking for. I am looking for the right music platform to use between Epidemic sounds and Artlist to use for my Timelapse art videos.
I'm using Artlist for over a year already and it's still satisfying me! I also totally can relate to your issue with all music providers that finding the right music is a hard thing. I wouldn't know how to solve this, but if they can find a solution for that, it definitely would be a no-brainer.
Love to hear I’m not the only one! Would be cool if they did!!
Hi, there’s anotger option: working with composers directly to get bespoke tailor-made music for your films should be a viable go-to part of filmmakers’ productions.
These aforementioned music libraries have a very cheap lure but their licensing can be a minefield.
Working with composers on a work-for-hire basis and directly licensing their music typically doesn’t cost much for online use. Most composers should be able to help you out with understanding all this.
I just started the free trial for epidemic sound and got a copyright on the first song I used… on a UA-cam video this past weekend. Very frustrating… that video has done very well for me and I had to remove the song to get the monetization from it.
Thank ya i am going to sign up for this as i know i need, to have no issues come to music
Unfortunately my country Leabob Beirut is not listed in their payments region....
Very very new to this but for example I wanna use the song park inn by Dylan sitts on a video I'm making....how can I use that without getting in trouble? Please and thank you
If you haven’t paid to use it, or have the rights to use it, you probably can’t use it. By having a subscription with one of the mentioned providers (or any other music service) it will be hard to use music for your videos :)
I am not familiar with the artist you’re referring to, but unless you’ve been given the rights, it might be hard for you to use it.
Just have a small question.once I take epidemic sound sub for one month and then end it will song on my video remains.i know i wont be able to monetize after one month
My experience is that it will work if your video is already uploaded. You can't upload it after the subscription ends, as far as I understand it!
@@kriswarwickI was looking at Epidemic Sound today but I did see somewhere (probably a UA-cam video) that once you end your subscription to epic then they get your monetization rights to the videos you already have up...
Would you mind doing some tutorial on how to use Artlist? Are those "video transitions" they offer like copy pasted into your video editor? I also suppose once you cancel your subscription, you can still keep your videos out there.
I will look into that! I haven’t been using anything else than their music license, but maybe I’ll try the transitions and other services soon!
Thank you very much for your advice I almost signed up with Epidemic sound but after watching your video it was a no brainer who to go for. Cheers!
Glad I could help!
If you can help, I'd appreciate it. What are the famous artists or songs on Epidemic Sound?
if Artlists search filters, genres, etc worked better and it didnt take hours to find suitable music, it would be a lot better. i'm currently searching for music and it seems like the BPM filter doesnt work at all.
I agree with you. This is a challenge most of the providers have!
Wow, did not know it was that strict. This is if you choose "Individual + "no client work", right? I have the "Business" => "Small" client coverage package for $99 per month. Per the contract, I can use it for commercial projects if the company has 1-50 employees or UA-cam channels with up to 1M subs.. And then use Epidemic Sound for larger clients.
With Musicbed their policy at the time of recording this video was that with the creator plan you were not free to use it for spec ads, reels etc. But if you are on the business package, I am sure you're good. That being said, I had a meeting with Musicbed a few weeks ago and they will up their game going forward. I think they will do more to please creators from now on!
Really appreciate this video. Thank you! Swtiching from Soundstripe (which I have loved) but just need something new...
I dont understand. The epidemic package is only for your channel, how do you assume to sell it of to customers of yours?!
I really love your glasses. Where did you get them from? Obviously concerned about picking the right music library, I was just taken with the boldness of your frames.
thank you for sharing! This has helped me choose
I am happy to hear that!
Epidemic Sound has been Copyright Claiming small V-Tubers recently.
Bro, which camera did you shoot with? The quality and colors are incredible
Thank you! I am using the Sony FX6 and FX3!
Maaaan what a bummer. I was about to make the switch but dang I’ll save my money.
Right? I was super surprised and disappointed.
I unsubbed from E.S and have a bunch of sfx downloaded. Can I use them in my videos without copyright?
I have been struggling with the same question myself. I don't know if/how they control the SFX we download. But I would say that whatever isn't mine, I shouldn't use. So I'd go with other SFX if I were you!
@@kriswarwickWas just about to click upload but you replied so fast in time! I will try artlist and was wondering if you know if they have a free trial or any links affiliated to you I can use?
@@LiamApilado I am happy to help! Here's a link to two months free with an annual subscription!
artlist.io/referral/366650/Kristian
All these sites have issues even artlist. They all have fine prints and limitations. You can’t use it for long form films really without clearing
thankyou so much, it really help me to choose!
It makes me very happy to hear the video helped you!
Thank you for your honest explanations and feedback . I am currently using Artlist and planning to switch to Epidemic Sound . But now i will keep my subscribtion with Artlist.
Glad it helped!
Thanks for helping me decide on a platform, going to start my subscription with artlist.
Welcome onboard! Glad I could help you out!
Didn't Artlist update their copyright terms? Don't you have to claim every song and inform them what channels/platforms it will be on?
Yes, they changed them after I made this video. I contacted them about it and they said I didn’t need to clear the songs. But I’m not sure if that’s accurate. Really don’t appreciate the new terms.
I’m looking for the new terms and can’t find them. Their site says we just need to clear specific channels. Google didn’t turn anything up. Can you point me to a source?
@@maxillariadendrobulum4079 I contacted them about this, and they said we wouldn't have problems with uploaded content, but clearing them would make it safer.
I really dislike the fact that they changed this, as that was the biggest selling point for me.
What does "1 channel per platform " mean? Sorry im very new to this😢. Thx
It means you can use one profile for each social media platform you're using. So one for Instagram, one for UA-cam etc. :)
@@kriswarwick Thank you, I think you "swayed" to 🎨 Artlist.
Filmmakers should stop using all three of these amateurish, scamming companies and source music from reputable PRO publishers or directly from composers.
The deals these companies make with their own composers is shockingly awful and devalues the whole intricate art of film music.
Great video! I've been with Epidemic sound for years and have been looking at Artlist. Guess I'll be changing
thanks, man! Glad I could help!
Give Extreme Music a go 👍🏻
Amazing Video Quality! Great Review, even tho I"ll probably never need any of these services, I kept watching because the video is really well made.
This comment made my day. Putting a lot of work into these, and having someone comment something like this actually means a lot. Thank you! 🙏🏻
If you cancel your subscription to artist do you have to take the music out of your videos?
Nope! You can download a license with the song, and it works with that project. However, you can’t use that song in new videos. That’s how I’ve understood it!
Can I use Artlist music on a song that I sell and make money selling the song?
You can’t sell the song to a creator for it to be used in a different video, but you can sell a video with Artlist music in it :)
Very good review. Straight to the point and fair. Thank you.
Thank you!
The tale of false royalty-free music. A pure SCAM!!!
Wait a minute. Tell me please one thing about Epidemic Sound. What exact subscribe plan do you use when you start making videos with music for clients? I think it happens to you because you don't use the right plan for such purposes.
I used the right plan, but it’s still the same problem having to clear each project. That’s just their way of doing things.
Great review Kris. I have been using Epidemic Sound and Storyblocks so fare and am curious about Artlist, especially for client work.
Thanks for sharing. Cheers from LA.
I used Epidemic Sound a while back. And stopped because I had no use of it. I ended up getting a claim on one of those videos. so I reached out to them. First they complained because I was not currently sub to them. But I told them I where when that video was uploaded, and they could see that. took a little while before they admited that and helped.. Not even checked their webstie since then.
My biggest concern with these services is that I will get 100 claimed videos after I cancel my subscription. I can't be paying for the rest of my life for some old content but then again I can't ruin my channel with pointless strikes after I'm no longer a customer.
They promise on the website that this should not happen but here we go again one more sample of it not working like that.
Only safe bet would probably be to use youtube music library.
So which of these services is or are scammers? Which one is the scam????
Great helpful review. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting! 🙏🏼
'Artlist' it is then! 🌟Perfect just the video I needed to make the right decision at this time... I was wanting to make free videos for other content creators that are friends of mine to train myself up more on the software and it looks like Artlist is the right choice for quality of content and price >> cheers 👌💯👀🎯😎🌟
Sounds like a good choice!
Thanks for sharing your opinions. I'm now considering an external music source, and I find this information very helpful.🙂🌞👋
Thanks for watching! Glad I could help!
Used your link to get Artlist thank you for the video review!
I agree it's a scam. after couple of months they started to demonetized one of my friends yt channel. Saying that my friend break their rules. But in my friend's sHock, #EpidemicSound only copyrighted all the contents that reach 1k views and more. If iin the first place my friend break their rules, they will copyright claimed him right after he upload videos not after 3mos and not after my friend unsubscribed to them. @EPIDEMIC SOUND = SCAMMERS!
I greatly appreciate the non-sponsored opinions. Your reviews in this video felt way more genuine & honest than others I've watched 👍
This is a very important video for content creators
Thanks! I hope so!
That’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard. I’ve been a huge fan of artlist for years now
Respect for your transparency, you helped me to move forward with Artlist🙏
Happy to hear that!
Does it depend on the number of subscribers you have
As far as I know, the number of subscribers doesn't matter if you're using Artlist!
Wow sorry to hear about your experience with musicbed. Thanks for sharing I’ll be skipping musicbed for sure.
U R shooting from the hip ! i love it - agreed AL seems the best option for me as well ATM , excellent video Kris , good to put this out there nice and clear and clean !
Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks for the video!. I am also new UA-camr:) Still learning about musics etc. thanks for your advice. greetings from the UK! and your new subscriber here :)
Thanks! Good luck on your YT adventure!
I really like Artist. Thanks for confirming my already positive experience!
Me too! I am glad I could help the confirmation!
Thank you so much for this vid.
Glad it was helpful!
As a new creature, this is helpful. Thank again
This makes me happy!
Thank you for your honest video. You will get more views and subs one day, as this is a direct and honest video reviewing the music platforms available today(2024).
I considered Epidemic as it felt like a great choice. Got a paid sub, liked a few songs, downloaded one. I got my entire project ready.
Before posting the song, I'm thinking, should I attribute the song? What does the license say?
And then I find out, you cannot use the song as just a standalone song, you cannot use the song as just a music listening experience song.
So if you are doing something like cinematic music videos or motion graphics music visualizer music videos, save yourself the time and the money. EPIDEMIC SOUNDS WILL NOT ALLOW IT, EVEN IF YOU'RE SUBSCRIBED.
That's how it is. Schade.
Danke!
Honestly if your audience doesn't watch ads anyway (either ublock or premium)
Why not use whatever music you like.
Not planning to make money off yt anyway
That’s true to a certain extent. If a provider chooses to take your video down, or tells you to, it doesn’t matter if you’re making money on it or not :)
@@kriswarwick okay I didn't know this is a thing, usually got a notice about ads on my videos but not that.
@@XTANCE it really depends on how they act. Most likely, you will be asked to take it down or buy the license.
Recommended in feed. 82 subs? This is a very well produced video for a channel with only 82 subs. Will keep an eye on you!
I needed this one today! Thank you! It's sometimes hard to keep it up when I only have 80 ish subs and few views, but comments like this one keeps me going! 🙏🏼
@@kriswarwick I only have 350, I spent 3 months last fall doing consistent weekly long form release & weekly live show trying to find my voice and nail down my niche, then took 10 months off then came back full time two weeks ago. Its a struggle, and every little comment, like or sub is fuel. People don't know that, but it's true.
Also I use Epidemic, and also used them on another channel from 2016-2018 and never had an issue and the music is very good, if a little euro-centric for US market tastes, but so many royalty free sites have homogenized social media music since back then, it doesn't matter as much anymore. It's all sort of the same.
Hmmm... I just got a musicbed subscription haha. Hope it works out!
I’m sure it will!
Thank you very helpful!
Artlist seems great, met some of them.
I wish they had a lifetime deal. I hate to sub. It's a deal breaker.
They kinda have. If you're able to refer 10 subscribers, you'll get a lifetime subscription!
Dude I just don't understand why I got a copyright for using a song from my editing software Filmore
That sounds weird. Sometimes the license isn’t covering copyright for monetizing. So you might get a copyright on your video, but it won’t affect it other than you not being able to make money on it.
Thank you have a great day
Just saved me. Appreciate it!
I’m glad I could help you out on that one!
Good info, thank you. Very strange terms from Musicbed. Will be avoiding them!
So...what about Audiio?
a lot of people have asked me about that! I haven't tried it, but maybe I should!
Great video, thank you !
Glad you liked it!
Owcheeeee……..😱
Speak your mind…
don’t hold back……..
An honest review………..
you’ve got another subscriber….🤣
Honesty will last you!
Such high quality video!
Thanks! Means a lot!
Sounds like Musicbed is a no go for me…
hey thanks for the video
i already subcribe to artlist，wonder that when i upload video on youtube，do i need to mention im a user of artlist？
cause i using Gmail account A to subscribe artlist，
and my video post on gmail account B（youtube B）
if im not mention，how do they know im a user of Artlist🤔️
Thanks for commenting!
It’s always nice to give credit to the artist and soundtracks you’re using, but you don’t HAVE to to that :)
Artlist doesn’t check in the same way as the other providers, it’s seems. So as long as you can prove that you have the license if they ask, you’ll be good. If it for some reason is claimed, you just email Artlist!
@@kriswarwick Ok，thanks for reply🌝👌🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
How about Audiio? As hobbyist, that may use music for personal projects every now and then, I wanted to have 'non subscription' type option, and Audiio offered it. They have also quite good licensing ("The license covers an unlimited number of downloads for your content, including your personal and client projects", "Your content is covered for promotional use for client projects", "Each license we issue for your projects is for perpetual, ongoing use and never expires even if you cancel").
But like I said, I'm not professional, and just doing things for personal fun/hobby. But I really would like to know if their lifetime deal is good or not.
(I think I got discount for it when I get it, maybe it was 50% of or so.)
Great questions! I think that it really depends on your needs. I have heard a lot of good things about Audiio lately, so I am sure it is great. Personally, I haven't tried it yet. Maybe I should!
For me Artlist has been amazing for client work!
I use both Artlist and Audiio plus a couple of others. If you only want to pay for one, Artlist is the best. Audiio is good, but it's less variety. I purchased a lifetime plan from Audioo for only $199 a couple of years ago, so it's good for ever with no additional payments. They have that same deal running now. If you go that route, that's all you'll ever pay with no need to pay for renewals. However, Artlist has more and better music, in my opinion. I guess it all depends on your taste.
Audiio is terrible. There library is small and I often found that I was seeing the same track in multiple genres. Also I forgot about the subscription and went to cancel it and found out they charged my card the day before. I asked for a refund and they denied me due to their T and C. I explained I hadn’t used their service for months and didn’t want another year of service. They said they didn’t care. Eventually they stopped responding to my emails. Their customer service was the most unprofessional I’ve ever dealt with. Avoid them at all costs
Thanks for this review.
thanks for sharing. imo too musicbed is pretty costly
Wow the quality of your video 😱
Kristian - would love to connect with you about this and see if we can solve your problems!
Thanks for your email, Daniel!
Did they solve the problem for you?
@@ClarksvilleTN Musicbed showed themselves as professionals and took my issues with the service seriously. I think, and believe that they will make changes to their policy!
I use artlist on my videos n it's pretty good...
It's good!
Great!
Thank you guy, this helps me a lot, I was sucked with Epidemic sound, now moving to another provider!
Thanks for watching!
6:30 That sucks! Pretty stingy and greedy of them.
This helps. Thanks.
I am glad! Good luck!
Thank you!!!!!
🙌🏻🙌🏻 glad I could help!
But he told you no and what you had to do
Thank you.
You're welcome!