@@ilikaplayhopscotch "It's not petrified wood" means that the "wood" is actually wood (and not rock). While this is not out of the ordinary, I assume he means that the whole weapon is made out of wood. I would assume he was analysing the "metallic" bit of the weapon, to first find out that it is not truly made of metal, nor of mineral, but of wood.
"The Drifter's reports are... lacking." *The Drifter's reports:* "Some Taken-lookin' ball thingies are all over the place. Moondust says they're 'Savathun's eyes,' whatever that's supposed to mean. Anyways, our guardian is poppin' them like pimples and digging into all the good stuff inside."
"The Drifter's reports are... lacking." Cuts to the Drifter using the Vanguard's forms as coasters, napkins and a stack with that day's date in the Derelict's latrine.
Drifter doesn’t care. I’d say he wants to use the Darkness for his own goals. Can’t say I blame him if that’s the case. To feel power like that, well, it would turn even the strongest wills.
@@knightofsteel2783 Cuts to a slow sweeping pan of an EDZ rooftop, revealing close-ups of increasingly intricate origami figures. The shot pans out to show Cayde folding report forms into origami and paper aeroplanes, which he playfully throws at the local Fallen and Legion so they turn to face him before shooting them. Zavala (via radio): Cayde, how's the report coming along? Cayde: Oh, just putting the final touches on it now...
A clan mate and I were trying to coordinate the wacky waving emote and I guess where I was standing was where Zavala loads in and long story short, he killed me.
The Fact that the Darkness sees us as equals is interesting almost like they are wanting us as partners or as respected opponents. Also the Dark as only communicated with us and not with the Traveller (as far as we know) it doesn't feel right
We are almost an embodiment of Sword Logic in our power. Xol bowed to us when we defeated him and let us wield him as a weapon. The Darkness itself probably sees us in the same way and wishes to put the tools of destruction in our hands for their own purposes.
While what Wulfenstin said about the embodiment of Sword Logic has it's...well logic, but this can also be bait to deal with arguably one of the most powerful guardians either by seducing us to its side with power or paving our downfall with its gifts.
a truce, maybe so that we can kill Eramis and Savahthun to get rid of a thorn in both of our and the darkness' sides, after all I doubt that the darkness likes being interrupted by Savahthun, although I don't know much about Eramis
When Lightfall hits, I want to see Titan, Io, Mars and Mercury return from the vault in the form the Darkness envisions for them. Also, with the Leviathan getting vaulted does anyone think Calus is going to get his moment with the Darkness before being utterly annihilated by it?
Its strange, it seems that ikora has a very strong ability to read the visions from the traveler. Like how back right as the forsaken campaign starts she talks about visions of a crown, a rose, and a silver tree, just something interesting.
random dude with some common sense on yt most likely, you are correct. Crown was purified when we killed the cabal, a thorn was transformed from darkness, and the tree which is being shaped by light and dark.
3:40 Zavala: She (Savathun) thinks too highly of herself. And too little of others Eris: Thank you Dammit, Eris, at least word a response in a way that doesn't heavily imply you ARE Savathun.
Oh yeah, the tree is way different this week. If you look closely there's a massive cloud of that Darkness distortion above us in the cradle now as well. It looks like the Dark is slowly changing it from the top down branch by branch.
When destroying the Eyes of Savathun they let out a sound that sounds almost EXACTLY like Riven when you first see her in person. Do you think they are connected or just a re used sound byte?
Knowing Bungo, probably the second, but the fact Savathun is heavily involved with the whole Dreaming City incident, yeah, it could have been for story reasons.
I'm of the mind that they need to give energy types secondary damage effects. Solar would leave a minor (but ramping up) dot, Void would disorient targets, Arc would have a small chance of discharging to nearby enemies, and Stasis would slow targets down. This would make a stasis Cold-heart amazing in PvE (possibly PvP) I think.
-CFW. Magic- ^this makes more sense. It annoys me when people make ridiculous requests that make absolutely no sense just for the sake of gameplay mechanics or something. Why would the element of a weapon suddenly change from light to dark, it would make more sense if it uses stasis when we wield the darkness, as the ruinous effigy seeps the power of its beholder.
@@Azrael_Equinox The Sidearms perks are actually pretty savage as well if you look at them. Though wish it was a 260 rpm rather than a 300 rpm since we have 2 different 300 rpm sidearms.
I'm a bit worried about Zavala too. He's always seemed like a zealot for the Light. But if his faith was ever broken and he turned to the Darkness, I think he'd still be just as zealous.
@@SB2468YT I thought so as well. When Zavalla talks with Eris in his office in the beginning of the season, he was quite aggressive towards the darkness. Now? Barely cautious. :/
when you talk to him before he sends you to Sloan, he talks about how the darkness is basically here and yet the traveller still does nothing. He was always the one most staunch about protecting the thing and now it's still leaving us to fend off IT'S enemy. There's gotta be a point when even Zavala will have had enough
Bro I was just chillin on the moon today lookin at earth, thinking “I wonder what’s in the rest of the world; like, what about Africa. Is there still lions and hippos and shit?!”
Cheese Boi It definitely exists; our enemies aren’t in every spot of the earth, because they don’t need to be. Obviously pigeons, rabbits and others birds exist as you can see them in the game. I think from a developers standpoint there’s no point in putting wildlife in the game.
The darkness sees us, the guardian, as the sharpest sword and Savathun knows it and is fighting to secure/maintain her place as the darkness's main squeeze.
The Effigy is definitely an intriguing phenomenon. That and the mere fact the Darkness has just been slowly working it's own way across our system without so much as unplugging Rasputin so it isn't pestered by two sources (Savathun -and- Rasputin), is contrary to it's previous, violent arrival. It deems us an equal because, perhaps, it sees us as something amazing. Unexpected. Unknown. It wants to exploit us, sure, but in doing so it's putting itself - much like the Traveler - at risk. As a byproduct of it actively 'doting' on us, we could impose a balance on the two main paracausal powers.
@@silverfortune2205 who knows, we might become the third main player, an in-between or mediator ensuring that the other two don't kill each other or the multi-verse or taking either side as necessary
From it's previous words, it views us, the Guardians, as the gardener's final argument. Thus, it wants to "win" the "argument" by converting us to it's way of thinking, thus converting us to the side of Darkness.
@@silverfortune2205 I'm wondering what will happen to our ghost as it's basically made of light and we using the darkness may be in conflict with that.
An effigy is something created in the shape of a specific person, often with the intent of destroying it ceremonially. If it's a Ruinous Effigy, then it's something in the shape of something or someone else.... And that thing either brings ruin... or is being ruined. Ruinous can either mean it destroys, or it is being destroyed.
A Perez Light bearers have had wars against each other before. It’s likely to happen again like it did in the Dark Age. I feel like a second Dark Age will be coming very soon. If not with Beyond Light, then for sure after that in a different season.
from the looks of things all the darkness wants is to see us kill everything that isn't us. it want's us to prove it right or at least to accept it willingly
If only we got branching story options, imagine siding with the darkness or choosing to spare Uldren, or saving Cayde if you're fast enough, or letting Crota be reborn, or claiming the Osmium Throne after killing Oryx
Man, I’ve always felt like lore is just nerdy and boring and all I want to do is just shoot things, but I decided to give more a try by watching this channel and man, this is actually cool! You earned my sub for sure
This is dark stuff indeed but whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
Your talk about what the Pyramids are doing to the planets they've landed on just made me imagine what could have been. Imagine if instead of just ripping those worlds out of the game, they became sort of a "Dark Zone" ala Division. Unique Patrol zones with no clear objectives, no patrols, but perhaps randomized events kinda similar to Public Events. The planets no longer fully habitable, the skys are blackened and vision is poor, the areas have a much more "survival horror" feel to them, some areas outdoors will slowly kill you (a poison effect similar to being outside the bubbles in the Dreaming City Well event) and enemies there are twisted, darkness versions of normal enemies that are always Nightfall-tier strong. But as a result, these places drop special loot only found on Darkness covered planets, special Engrams much like the Umbral Engrams come from these places, very rare, but with weapons that could possess unique, Darkness-related Intrinsic perks. A sort of "Endgame Patrol" zone. The fact that the Pyramids are turning these planets into places only the strongest will survive could have been a great lore reason to make these planets into tough hellscapes, a "Patrol" Nightfall, dangerous in more ways than just the enemy presence, with Light levels kept around 25-50 above the current cap. They could have even brought in events similar to the Well and Court of Oryx into these areas, except Darkness/Pyramid themed with unique Legendaries or Exotics at the end of a tough stage. Ah, well, it would have been a fun deviation from the norm I think.
With the pyramid ships being where they are.. Could this be the Darkness getting ready to cause a syzygy? Will that syzygy be what... makes room for new content?
@@sjei. that's true, but I think what the Darkness can do is amplify the syzygy to be actually destructive, much like what happened on/to Fundament (if I'm remembering correctly)
Maybe if we use this weapon enough... we may become another tool the darkness uses.. or, we could become the next Oryx, showing the way of Darkness to others, but with the video on Savathûn's song being stuck in our head, maybe that's not such a good thing to many anymore...
Zavala is, in my opinion, a representation of the full guardian body (like all the playerbase). Doubting the traveler as it is doing nothing while the darkness is proactive.
This exotic really has me rethinking the Darkness motivates. I think this Gift is a way of it to first reach out a hand to us Guridians to try to get us to trust the Darkness. To start leading us into taking the Darkness as a power within ourselves.
I really feel like this gun should've been a stasis weapon, since it's a direct gift from the darkness. I feel like it would have fit super well with the lore of the gun and given us a fun little intro to the new element.
Ya know it’s really funny cause after reading the lore I was thinking to myself. Man this is interesting I hope byf makes a video on this. And an hour later.
I'm really starting to think that eris and zavala were an item in the past. Some of the small little moments between them cause me to think that he still has feelings for her.
I think he definitely cares about her, I'm not sure if it's romantic as there's not much romance in Destiny's lore (some notable exceptions aside such as best girls Wei Ning and Eriana 3).
@@VallornDeathblade Maybe Zavala softened a little bit after the death of Cayde. Remember his words "I refuse to bury any more friends"... Well. He suddenly got a lot closer to Ana during the Almighty crisis, and now, he seems to care about Eris. Zavala is still being Zavala, very stoic and by-the-book ("I will not sanction this" or "This is not what we agreed upon" blablabla), but with the Darkness being here, I think he is more afraid than ever to lose another person, even if he will never admit it.
Hey Byf, question We have seen that the Darkness's ships, the pyramids, are roughly the size of the Traveler. And we have seen, at the very least, five Pyramid (Moon, Io, Titan, Mars and Mercury) ships Is it possible that the Traveler is ONE of the Light's ships, the same way that ONE of the pyramids is ONE of the Darkness's ships?
It might be the last of its kind, like in the end of the d2 campaign, there was 1 giant ship, that might be the dark's "Traveler" equivalent. The Traveler commonly known as the light might have had other vessels in which it created life. I mean, how did (in the Destiny universe) did life truly come to being? Maybe another of the lights vessels created the precursors of life as its first experiment and the traveler now is another one of those vessels, or the mother vessel. Fun stuff to think about.
I might be guilty of necromancy here, seeing as this is a video from over a year ago, but I was happy to find this shortly after seeing someone post a warlock build using this weapon in anticipation of Void 2.0. I always loved the design of this stick, especially Daytoner’s skin design. Cheers for explaining the backstory to a Newlight!
@@gucciclov3r809 I don't know, it feels different. Zavala was pretty pissed in the beginning of the season, but he's given to the all clear to a weapon that converts Light into Dark?
@THE VOID it did give us ghosts and was the reason why guardians exist. Besides, both the dark and light exists before time and space and can control them at will, so it's possible that the traveler already knows the outcome of this, and the darkness wants to change that. Last time, the traveler defeated the darkness without guardians.
@@longps9528 It gave us ghosts so we can fight its war and win its argument for it. The Risen led to many people suffering and dying all because the Traveler wanted an immortal undead army, and even then we got a better deal than the Eliksni and races like them who were simply abandoned by the Traveler. Long story short, it gave us our golden age knowing that in the end it would be followed and attacked and it would have to either run or force other races to fight for it. It is using us.
"Our first weapon crafted from the darkness" Until Stasis comes around, that's gonna be way more Darkness By the way, video on the Exodus Quest coming?
I'm surprised there was no mention to the titan strike "Savathuns Song" in which the hive were doing the exact same thing, which we used the void orbs against them. Now we have a physical weapon of what went on during that strike. No wizards required.
It absolutely is. :) If anything, I'm surprised this isn't as obvious to everyone. But I noticed a lot of players don't pay much attention to the environments, the skybox or the details of the story. They're just here to pew pew the mobs (which is fine... I guess) :/
Anyone recognize how the Darkness’s thing of transforming worlds into something in which only the strong survive just sounds like how nature is irl. Just survival of the fittest.
So that’s why it has the same sort of design as divinity. The tree was hella corrupted on the mission. And on the note of reshaping the worlds, I wonder if the planets will return down the line, reshaped in the darkness’ image. Maybe titan and Mercury can finally get the love they deserve
In the Savathun's Song strike they mention that only "Guardians can create void light." Looks like the Darkness can as well, equals indeed. I wonder if the Traveler's Chosen sidearm was in that golden case that Zavala shut ?
i love how it uses very similar principles and qualities to touch of malice but using savathuns power (i think but don’t quote me on that) with turning light and darkness into void balls, like in the strike where they mention turning guardians into void crystals.
I thought for sure you'd mention the parallel present between the action of this exotic and the story of the Savathun's song strike. Unless I'm totally forgetting, you never mentioned it.
I feel like the game is hinting at fallen guardians because beyond light shows a fallen wielding darkness and we know that the traveler was first with the fallen so it is not to far of a stretch. Also with mithraxx making a house of light and from lore tabs on queen breaker, outbreak perfected and others we know that guardians are working with him. Basically it comes down to if there is a fallen house of darkness wielding darkness, it makes sense that the fallen house of light wields light
The darkness considering us an equal is troubling, but it does almost confirm a theory I had a while back. Theory goes, the Winnower wants you to replace the Gardener. It believes you have a far better appreciation for the game than the current Gardener- or at the very least won’t mess with reality and change the rules to the point the Traveler already has. Long story short, I believe the darkness believes you are the key to resetting the game back to its original form. Which... could also mean we’re the key to something far more than we it wants ya to believe. It’s interesting.
I cannot be the only guardian who wants to help the darkness and to snuff out all the weak. Of course means I am not a guardian you want to watch you back.
Its going to be fascinating seeing how this plays out. Eris remarks at how unlike an invasion this is. Then it occurs to me that the collapse wasnt an invasion either. The gravity waves and the destruction were the darkness terraforming the Earth.
I think the idea that the darkness gifts this weapon as the idea of us being equals is to represent the fact that the Light and the Darkness should co-exist in the universe rather than fight one another for its control. However, this meant that their approach was meant as a means to prove our worth as wielders of the light by imparting their ideology in the form of the Effigy. If we think back to the quote from the end of Shadowkeep: “We are not your friend, we are not your enemy. We are your salvation” They’ve already assessed us as their equals, but they want to deliver us from the fear of them as an enemy and (back on the effigy point) transform our fear of them into a weapon we can use to prove that we shouldnt fear them.
Its worrying that the pyramids will speak to us directly but the traveller wont do the same. It also makes sense for them to see us as an equal as technically we have been using sword logic the entire time.
Yeah.. I'm glad that this gun wasn't given to the vanguard for containment. The whole reason we were even able to get Outbreak Perfected was because the fallen broke into the old tower vault and took it after the vanguard had contained it. Lmao. And let's not forget about The 4th Horseman. Literally goes missing after being in a secret passageway in Zavala's office for I don't even know how long.
Does anyone else think the Zavala we see talking to Eris is another projection of The Darkness? The way he talks about Savathun, with a strange sense of familiarity of their thoughts and behaviours, as if he personally knows Savathun; "She thinks too much of herself, and too little of others" I read this as The Darkness sizing up it's potential allies. It has previously been using the Hive and the Taken to do it's bidding, but these prove to be unreliable allies due to the power-hungry nature of their existence The Hive and The Taken differ from humanity in that they are self-serving while we are selfless Perhaps the Darkness is looking for more selfless allies, allies who can be corrupted but will continue to stay loyal even as their own power grows - Unlike the Hive who would turn on the Darkness the moment they think themselves powerful enough, because this is the nature of Sword Logic
So it does use our light, I thought it was funny how the trigger was linked straight to the barrel. Still how badass does it look when you take on an army with a plank of wood and turn their friends into explosive basketballs and slam dunk them to death haha
I feel like Ikora should be angrier that the Darkness is terraforming Io. She was furios when the Red Legion was mining the Travelers energy. Now, the Darkness is smothering it, and transforming the world to fit the sword logic, yet she has had no reaction unless there’s a lore card I’ve missed.
I find it interesting that it “spits out” void specifically, no matter the “current” type of light the Guardian is using. The same type of Light being gathered in Savathûn’s Song.
This lore makes the gardener and winnower analogy make so much more sense. According to google to winnow something means to blow a wind through a group of crops to remove chaff and pests, so using this analogy, the wind is destruction and chaos and the chaff is the weak life that dies in the process, leaving only the good crops aka strong life to grow and become stronger unhindered by waste and parasites. The flavor text of ruinous effigy even says “from the many wings of ruin blows a wind that will reshape this dead world.” The traveler also seeks strong life but it does so by changing worlds to be effective for life to advance, like a gardener enriching the soil to ensure the plants can grow as to be as healthy and bountiful as possible.
Eris; ok. I am just gonna casually use the taken king's soul, the destoryer of worlds and the man who have faced darkness itself and made a pact with it as a crude experiment.
Honestly this has got to be one of the most "exotic-feeling" exotics. It reuses past mechanics but does so in a novel way. Seriously, turns enemies into a sphere and then you hold said sphere and you can generate a death field that eventually consumes your light? That's an exotic, man!
I'm thinking the Darkness wants us to become victors of a "flower game"...just like the Vex were in one of them. Turns out in the lore tab from this week's interference implied that for the collapse...we did something wrong and they meant to come in peace?
Something to notice that you didn’t mention, to get the catalyst, or to upgrade the catalyst, you must use the gun to destroy Savathuns eyes. Is the darkness no longer favoring the hive thanks to our countless victories? Or does it think Savathun seeks to overpower and maybe betray it and so uses the enemy of thy enemy as a friend for now. Rn with all we’ve done, all we’ve followed is sword logic. We’ve proven better than the vex, than the fallen, than the cabal, and even the hive. We’ve slowly become the last thing standing , as guardians. Although what sets us apart is we are 3 races in total, and that we also have regular humans with guardians. I think that balance, of those that can’t and those that can die working together, to simply survive, not eradicate, is what will undo the darkness.
Fun fact: When I did this on reset, I was stood where Zavala spawns in and as he did it yeeted me across the area and killed me. So I got all this dialogue through the radio, which sounded very staticy and interfered with. Was pretty cool.
That Zavala and Eris conversation was pretty different to mine, Zavala spawned in on me scaring the hell out of me and then killing me flinging my body off somewhere
"You're playing a dangerous game. Good thing you're a dangerous woman." I didn't know Zavala was a player. That was smooth asf.
ikr
*deep breath* SiMp!
Yeah I know that word’s overused.
"Goddian... eris is... kind of bad... 🥴"
Logan Stewart lmao
Zavala and Eris morn sounds like a good match
Yeah I feel like a tracer rifle made out of organic wood and can turn people into a ball would come from a strange source
Organic wood...
It did start as a tree branch, and isn’t all wood organic?
forced Metroid Morph Ball
Underrated comment.
@@ilikaplayhopscotch "It's not petrified wood" means that the "wood" is actually wood (and not rock). While this is not out of the ordinary, I assume he means that the whole weapon is made out of wood.
I would assume he was analysing the "metallic" bit of the weapon, to first find out that it is not truly made of metal, nor of mineral, but of wood.
Sooooo techs mechanica?
"The Drifter's reports are... lacking."
*The Drifter's reports:* "Some Taken-lookin' ball thingies are all over the place. Moondust says they're 'Savathun's eyes,' whatever that's supposed to mean. Anyways, our guardian is poppin' them like pimples and digging into all the good stuff inside."
the ghost of Cayde-6: "No... No... he has a point"
@@headcrab1799 nice Kronk reference from Emperors New Groove! lol
Trust.
Me using the Ruinous Effigy during the Savathuns Song strike: "I can't believe they wouldn't turn guardians into void crystals"
Oh the irony
Did you know that Guardians power their guns through Death and Sacrifice?
I mean, we power ourselfs trough death and sacrifice since orbs of light are a thing.
Also if you use the spheres and use th AOE thing you can break like 4 crystals at a time... just sayin
I feel like shooting the crystals with RE should turn them back into guardians
biohazard724 I like the way you think
"The Drifter's reports are... lacking."
Cuts to the Drifter using the Vanguard's forms as coasters, napkins and a stack with that day's date in the Derelict's latrine.
Drifter:... ..... dont you judge me maverick its better than Caydes old reports
PlebNC lol. The drifter is a chad
Drifter doesn’t care. I’d say he wants to use the Darkness for his own goals. Can’t say I blame him if that’s the case. To feel power like that, well, it would turn even the strongest wills.
@@knightofsteel2783 Cuts to a slow sweeping pan of an EDZ rooftop, revealing close-ups of increasingly intricate origami figures. The shot pans out to show Cayde folding report forms into origami and paper aeroplanes, which he playfully throws at the local Fallen and Legion so they turn to face him before shooting them.
Zavala (via radio): Cayde, how's the report coming along?
Cayde: Oh, just putting the final touches on it now...
@@PlebNC perfect
The darkness tried to appeal to humanity by allowing us to do sick ass, space jam-slam dunks on our enemies.
jere miah Basketball court of Savathun? Oryx had one......
Guess you could say its.... Space jam
And it's kinda working...
It was super effective 😂
Got damn Zavala scared the hell out of me. His Character model glitched in in a T pose before actually coming in.
Same bro. I legit thought it was savathun for a second idk why. I was far away
A clan mate and I were trying to coordinate the wacky waving emote and I guess where I was standing was where Zavala loads in and long story short, he killed me.
Lol I was standing close to where he drops In and launched me into a wall
It’s a sign from the Darkness
Zavala punted me into the roots of the tree
*"The Darkness is a gift, let my will set you free!"*
- Oryx 2015
.........why did the reality of his words actually just clicked now
So deep
Holy crap. That quote hit me like a Jötunn shot.
Giving is of the sky
Taking is of the deep
So Oryx is like a martyr
Byf: "Be careful how you use this weapon of the pyramids"
Me: *TIME TO REENACT SPACE JAM*
You kill hive by doing a space-jam? Heck yeah
C'MON AND SLAM, AND WELCOME TO THE JAM!
@@arsenalxa4421 C'MON AND SLAM, IF YOU WANNA JAM!
Fr tho I ain’t being careful imma slam dunk on the hive like Kobe
Hush is gonna have fun
The Fact that the Darkness sees us as equals is interesting almost like they are wanting us as partners or as respected opponents. Also the Dark as only communicated with us and not with the Traveller (as far as we know) it doesn't feel right
We are almost an embodiment of Sword Logic in our power. Xol bowed to us when we defeated him and let us wield him as a weapon. The Darkness itself probably sees us in the same way and wishes to put the tools of destruction in our hands for their own purposes.
@@mrmolo70 Wanted us to take us the mantle maybe? And the fact we did that same thing to Oryx
Maybe they see guardians as worthier recipients than the hive? And that's why Savathun is trying to get in between?
While what Wulfenstin said about the embodiment of Sword Logic has it's...well logic, but this can also be bait to deal with arguably one of the most powerful guardians either by seducing us to its side with power or paving our downfall with its gifts.
Well, I play for loot and GUNS. You have better guns? Count me in, Darkness
Guys we gotta use this weapon when we kill Savathun, she turned those guardians into void, I’d think it’d be fair to turn her into a void ball.
*An eye for an eye*
Blood for blood
Poop sock for a poop sock
Oh you poor mans. If only you knew how much worse it gets
@@russetduchess4363 I got the dlc the seasons too, but my PS broke and I’m not gonna look up what’s happening either. So now I wait.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how the darkness literally gave us an olive branch. Seems like a truce.
Lol I thought the same thing... But considering the nature of the deep, I wouldn't say a truce is likely
a truce, maybe so that we can kill Eramis and Savahthun to get rid of a thorn in both of our and the darkness' sides, after all I doubt that the darkness likes being interrupted by Savahthun, although I don't know much about Eramis
Good catch!
A truce to us and us alone not the people of the city not the fallen not any weak life
Peace is for the weak let there be war!!!!
When Lightfall hits, I want to see Titan, Io, Mars and Mercury return from the vault in the form the Darkness envisions for them. Also, with the Leviathan getting vaulted does anyone think Calus is going to get his moment with the Darkness before being utterly annihilated by it?
Callus is not in the leviathan hes in the cabal world, the leviathan just has a ton of calus robots. So callus is safe
I'm pretty sure calus isnt what he claims, he is likely savathun
What if Ruinious is a descedant fron Touch of malice?
Duarte GBrancon He is, Drifter visits him in the Leviathan. The real Calus
I think calus is gonna leave to go deal with his daughter and then come back later
"much beauty can be found in the dark just as much horror can be found in the light. No good nor evil. Just power to shape as your own"
Guardians are made of the light but represent what the darkness most desires.
Plot twist: The Veil want to welcome us to the Destiny Space Jam.
Come on and slam!
Its strange, it seems that ikora has a very strong ability to read the visions from the traveler. Like how back right as the forsaken campaign starts she talks about visions of a crown, a rose, and a silver tree, just something interesting.
Crown of sorrow and possibly thorn/lumina?
The Traveler has chosen it's new Speaker.
random dude with some common sense on yt most likely, you are correct. Crown was purified when we killed the cabal, a thorn was transformed from darkness, and the tree which is being shaped by light and dark.
3:40 Zavala: She (Savathun) thinks too highly of herself. And too little of others
Eris: Thank you
Dammit, Eris, at least word a response in a way that doesn't heavily imply you ARE Savathun.
Ight traveler its time to give us a cool gun before everyone becomes a dredgen.
Well there is an exotic travelers chosen that hasn’t been released yet
@@AkidaIsFoolish that's what the traveler is gonna have to give us to remind us who we're fighting for here
Jackson DC it better be a damn good weapon or I’m out ahaha
That pistol isn't full auto. TIME TO YEET WITH BALLS
Hawkmoon >:)
I just noticed something bout the tree...it is slowly getting corrupted by the pyramid
yup
It is getting cleansed from the weak light
Oh yeah, the tree is way different this week. If you look closely there's a massive cloud of that Darkness distortion above us in the cradle now as well. It looks like the Dark is slowly changing it from the top down branch by branch.
Yep there is this dark terraforming effect like when there is a bloom in contact
I am curious of the harvest from the tree now.
Byf: Be careful as you use this weapon
Me: Haha purple ball go boom
When destroying the Eyes of Savathun they let out a sound that sounds almost EXACTLY like Riven when you first see her in person. Do you think they are connected or just a re used sound byte?
There is strong hints that Savathun was the one infecting Riven with the Taken blights. So perhaps the sounds confirm that.
I noticed that too. I thought it was just me as my son didn't notice it.
@@r.n.g.6514 Its so cool that you play destiny with your son.
Riley M I thought oryx did that before taken king
Knowing Bungo, probably the second, but the fact Savathun is heavily involved with the whole Dreaming City incident, yeah, it could have been for story reasons.
I hope they switch this gun from void to the new stasis damage type when the new dlc comes out
That would be awesome
I'm of the mind that they need to give energy types secondary damage effects. Solar would leave a minor (but ramping up) dot, Void would disorient targets, Arc would have a small chance of discharging to nearby enemies, and Stasis would slow targets down. This would make a stasis Cold-heart amazing in PvE (possibly PvP) I think.
or changes when you weild Darkness instead of Light. It does specify it converts Light into Void, so I assume it converts Darkness into Stasis.
-CFW. Magic- ^this makes more sense. It annoys me when people make ridiculous requests that make absolutely no sense just for the sake of gameplay mechanics or something. Why would the element of a weapon suddenly change from light to dark, it would make more sense if it uses stasis when we wield the darkness, as the ruinous effigy seeps the power of its beholder.
"The Darkness is a gift! Let its will free you!" ~ Oryx
Darkness: *gives us ruinous effigy* grow fat from strength
Guardian: neat
Traveller: well then *cracks knuckles* to the workbench
_gives us a whimpy sidearm_
Travelers chosen (adept)
knuckallix yo boi
......im not mad.....the next one can you bring back my exotic khostov traveller
@@Azrael_Equinox the Exotic sidearm called 'Travelers Chosen'
@@Azrael_Equinox The Sidearms perks are actually pretty savage as well if you look at them. Though wish it was a 260 rpm rather than a 300 rpm since we have 2 different 300 rpm sidearms.
Erisis literally the person we go to when we want to use a weapon made from other beings or people
Touch of Malice, Xenophage, Ruinous Effigy... She likes that kind of shit, I tell ya !
@@PLBiohazard you forgot deathbringer
This Zavala scene has me super intrigued. Zavala’s voice inflection and the comments made do not sound like Zavala. I think he is infected like Shax.
I'm a bit worried about Zavala too. He's always seemed like a zealot for the Light. But if his faith was ever broken and he turned to the Darkness, I think he'd still be just as zealous.
I just rewatched the scene, and I agree. Something about Zavala is just... off, it’s actually kinda worrying.
@@SB2468YT I thought so as well. When Zavalla talks with Eris in his office in the beginning of the season, he was quite aggressive towards the darkness. Now? Barely cautious. :/
when you talk to him before he sends you to Sloan, he talks about how the darkness is basically here and yet the traveller still does nothing. He was always the one most staunch about protecting the thing and now it's still leaving us to fend off IT'S enemy. There's gotta be a point when even Zavala will have had enough
Captain Sarina maybe the traveller is focusing on repairing, you don’t send in your trump card at half its strength, other wise its not a trump card.
The darkness is VERY tempting, Ruinous Effigy is fun as hell
What if the locations being sunset come back with actual wildlife that we have to survive and fight?
Bro I was just chillin on the moon today lookin at earth, thinking “I wonder what’s in the rest of the world; like, what about Africa. Is there still lions and hippos and shit?!”
Cheese Boi It definitely exists; our enemies aren’t in every spot of the earth, because they don’t need to be. Obviously pigeons, rabbits and others birds exist as you can see them in the game. I think from a developers standpoint there’s no point in putting wildlife in the game.
Outcast Rouge I can confirm that the Sahara desert is a “Conflict Zone” according to D1 Tower announcements
"Good thing you're a dangerous woman."
I see that Zavala and Eris may have some bedroom backstory.. 😳
Erifter forever
Now I've got Careless Whisper playing in my head at the thought of Zavala taking Eris to his quarters.
Unlike shaxx, the helmet stayed off
The darkness sees us, the guardian, as the sharpest sword and Savathun knows it and is fighting to secure/maintain her place as the darkness's main squeeze.
The Effigy is definitely an intriguing phenomenon. That and the mere fact the Darkness has just been slowly working it's own way across our system without so much as unplugging Rasputin so it isn't pestered by two sources (Savathun -and- Rasputin), is contrary to it's previous, violent arrival.
It deems us an equal because, perhaps, it sees us as something amazing. Unexpected. Unknown. It wants to exploit us, sure, but in doing so it's putting itself - much like the Traveler - at risk.
As a byproduct of it actively 'doting' on us, we could impose a balance on the two main paracausal powers.
To be fair when beyond light hits and we become able to wield the darkness, we literally will have a balance of light and dark in us.
@@silverfortune2205 who knows, we might become the third main player, an in-between or mediator ensuring that the other two don't kill each other or the multi-verse or taking either side as necessary
From it's previous words, it views us, the Guardians, as the gardener's final argument. Thus, it wants to "win" the "argument" by converting us to it's way of thinking, thus converting us to the side of Darkness.
@@silverfortune2205 I'm wondering what will happen to our ghost as it's basically made of light and we using the darkness may be in conflict with that.
@@mase8832 Good question. We know from the lore that ghosts can change behavior because of the darkness. Could affect our ghosts.
An effigy is something created in the shape of a specific person, often with the intent of destroying it ceremonially.
If it's a Ruinous Effigy, then it's something in the shape of something or someone else.... And that thing either brings ruin... or is being ruined. Ruinous can either mean it destroys, or it is being destroyed.
The dialogue between Eris and Zavala has me theorizing that we will soon have a Guardian civil war.
But then who would be a Guardian? Guardians protect the city. What would the people who join the darkness be called?
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A Perez Dredgen.
A Perez Light bearers have had wars against each other before. It’s likely to happen again like it did in the Dark Age. I feel like a second Dark Age will be coming very soon. If not with Beyond Light, then for sure after that in a different season.
The drifter knows something about savathuun, one of the conversations at the end of the Contact event in titan hints at that :o
What did he say?
He also asks if Savathun is even her real name. It's an interesting conversation that leaves more questions than answers
it's a good question though, if she thrives via convincing lies and half truths, how would we know if her name was true?
JammedTuba what if savathun is in kahoots with the nine she might be one of there powerful agents
I mean he has a point, remember Oryx isn't Oryx's real name and was just changed when Oruash became male
There is no such thing as a free gift. There’s something the darkness wants from us, Mark my words.
If something is free then you are the product
What the Darkness wants is us to wield it.
@@nomad7865 Truer words are rarely said Guardian.
from the looks of things all the darkness wants is to see us kill everything that isn't us. it want's us to prove it right or at least to accept it willingly
Nothing comes free
I salute you for using The Taken King soundtrack, Lore Daddy.
"From the wings of ruin blows a wind that will reshape this dead world."
God damn it wasn't kidding.
If only we got branching story options, imagine siding with the darkness or choosing to spare Uldren, or saving Cayde if you're fast enough, or letting Crota be reborn, or claiming the Osmium Throne after killing Oryx
Those are likely some of the timelines Elisabeth Bray had to deal with.
Man, I’ve always felt like lore is just nerdy and boring and all I want to do is just shoot things, but I decided to give more a try by watching this channel and man, this is actually cool! You earned my sub for sure
This is dark stuff indeed but whether we wanted it or not, we've stepped into a war with the Cabal on Mars. So let's get to taking out their command, one by one. Valus Ta'aurc. From what I can gather he commands the Siege Dancers from an Imperial Land Tank outside of Rubicon. He's well protected, but with the right team, we can punch through those defenses, take this beast out, and break their grip on Freehold.
Your talk about what the Pyramids are doing to the planets they've landed on just made me imagine what could have been.
Imagine if instead of just ripping those worlds out of the game, they became sort of a "Dark Zone" ala Division. Unique Patrol zones with no clear objectives, no patrols, but perhaps randomized events kinda similar to Public Events. The planets no longer fully habitable, the skys are blackened and vision is poor, the areas have a much more "survival horror" feel to them, some areas outdoors will slowly kill you (a poison effect similar to being outside the bubbles in the Dreaming City Well event) and enemies there are twisted, darkness versions of normal enemies that are always Nightfall-tier strong. But as a result, these places drop special loot only found on Darkness covered planets, special Engrams much like the Umbral Engrams come from these places, very rare, but with weapons that could possess unique, Darkness-related Intrinsic perks. A sort of "Endgame Patrol" zone.
The fact that the Pyramids are turning these planets into places only the strongest will survive could have been a great lore reason to make these planets into tough hellscapes, a "Patrol" Nightfall, dangerous in more ways than just the enemy presence, with Light levels kept around 25-50 above the current cap. They could have even brought in events similar to the Well and Court of Oryx into these areas, except Darkness/Pyramid themed with unique Legendaries or Exotics at the end of a tough stage.
Ah, well, it would have been a fun deviation from the norm I think.
With the pyramid ships being where they are.. Could this be the Darkness getting ready to cause a syzygy? Will that syzygy be what... makes room for new content?
Wtf is a syzygy?!
@@bushsbakedbeans3378 when a bunch of celestial bodies line up. But syzygies don't really do anything?
Tell that to the hive homeworld....
@@sjei. that's true, but I think what the Darkness can do is amplify the syzygy to be actually destructive, much like what happened on/to Fundament (if I'm remembering correctly)
@@anankha82 It was on Titan that this incident occurred. Kraken Mare. Fundament was the source IIRC.
Maybe if we use this weapon enough... we may become another tool the darkness uses.. or, we could become the next Oryx, showing the way of Darkness to others, but with the video on Savathûn's song being stuck in our head, maybe that's not such a good thing to many anymore...
Darkness pushing us to greater power, in my ears, absolute lad.
I have this feeling that Zavala is starting to lose faith in the Traveler and perhaps he’ll end up embracing the darkness and becoming its champion.
Zavala is, in my opinion, a representation of the full guardian body (like all the playerbase). Doubting the traveler as it is doing nothing while the darkness is proactive.
Zavala is gone... There is only D R E D G E N V U V U Z E L A.
@THE VOID I believe Drifter calls him that at one point.
THE VOID Asher Mir calls him tbat
Vallorn Asher Mir does. In like the first mission on Io, I think
2:56 Look at the way Eris reacts to Zavala calling Eris a "dangerous woman". She blushed.
This exotic really has me rethinking the Darkness motivates. I think this Gift is a way of it to first reach out a hand to us Guridians to try to get us to trust the Darkness. To start leading us into taking the Darkness as a power within ourselves.
I really feel like this gun should've been a stasis weapon, since it's a direct gift from the darkness. I feel like it would have fit super well with the lore of the gun and given us a fun little intro to the new element.
Ya know it’s really funny cause after reading the lore I was thinking to myself. Man this is interesting I hope byf makes a video on this. And an hour later.
I'm really starting to think that eris and zavala were an item in the past. Some of the small little moments between them cause me to think that he still has feelings for her.
I think he definitely cares about her, I'm not sure if it's romantic as there's not much romance in Destiny's lore (some notable exceptions aside such as best girls Wei Ning and Eriana 3).
Me too. They interact strangely!
@@VallornDeathblade Maybe Zavala softened a little bit after the death of Cayde. Remember his words "I refuse to bury any more friends"...
Well. He suddenly got a lot closer to Ana during the Almighty crisis, and now, he seems to care about Eris.
Zavala is still being Zavala, very stoic and by-the-book ("I will not sanction this" or "This is not what we agreed upon" blablabla), but with the Darkness being here, I think he is more afraid than ever to lose another person, even if he will never admit it.
Hey Byf, question
We have seen that the Darkness's ships, the pyramids, are roughly the size of the Traveler. And we have seen, at the very least, five Pyramid (Moon, Io, Titan, Mars and Mercury) ships
Is it possible that the Traveler is ONE of the Light's ships, the same way that ONE of the pyramids is ONE of the Darkness's ships?
Wouldn't be right as the Traveler is it's own being
It might be the last of its kind, like in the end of the d2 campaign, there was 1 giant ship, that might be the dark's "Traveler" equivalent. The Traveler commonly known as the light might have had other vessels in which it created life. I mean, how did (in the Destiny universe) did life truly come to being? Maybe another of the lights vessels created the precursors of life as its first experiment and the traveler now is another one of those vessels, or the mother vessel. Fun stuff to think about.
Powerful enemy: Gets turned into a ball
Ruinous F
Really feels like the darkness is an all for one, and the light a one for all
“Haha! Purple pachinco machine goes *pop, pop!”*
I might be guilty of necromancy here, seeing as this is a video from over a year ago, but I was happy to find this shortly after seeing someone post a warlock build using this weapon in anticipation of Void 2.0. I always loved the design of this stick, especially Daytoner’s skin design.
Cheers for explaining the backstory to a Newlight!
I don't think that was Zavala, when he came to the tree.
Corrupted like Shaxx maybe?
@@gucciclov3r809 I don't know, it feels different. Zavala was pretty pissed in the beginning of the season, but he's given to the all clear to a weapon that converts Light into Dark?
@THE VOID it did give us ghosts and was the reason why guardians exist. Besides, both the dark and light exists before time and space and can control them at will, so it's possible that the traveler already knows the outcome of this, and the darkness wants to change that. Last time, the traveler defeated the darkness without guardians.
@@longps9528 It gave us ghosts so we can fight its war and win its argument for it. The Risen led to many people suffering and dying all because the Traveler wanted an immortal undead army, and even then we got a better deal than the Eliksni and races like them who were simply abandoned by the Traveler. Long story short, it gave us our golden age knowing that in the end it would be followed and attacked and it would have to either run or force other races to fight for it. It is using us.
If this exotic’s mechanics are any sort of indication for the sorts of supers, abilities, and exotics we’re getting in Beyond Light I can’t wait.
I love the lore of this weapon. It's so fascinating how the weapon works!
Darkness: ThIs WeApOn CaN rEsHaPe WoRlDs!
Us: COME ON AND SLAM, AND WELCOME TO THE JAM!
Ruinous with banshee and Zavala: “I hate all of you”
Ruinous with us: I’m ok with this...
"Our first weapon crafted from the darkness"
Until Stasis comes around, that's gonna be way more Darkness
By the way, video on the Exodus Quest coming?
I'm surprised there was no mention to the titan strike "Savathuns Song" in which the hive were doing the exact same thing, which we used the void orbs against them. Now we have a physical weapon of what went on during that strike. No wizards required.
4:22 is it just me or is the top half of the seem darker
It looks like its getting corrupted
It absolutely is. :) If anything, I'm surprised this isn't as obvious to everyone.
But I noticed a lot of players don't pay much attention to the environments, the skybox or the details of the story.
They're just here to pew pew the mobs (which is fine... I guess) :/
PL Coudercy it look like darkness carbon fiber
Anyone recognize how the Darkness’s thing of transforming worlds into something in which only the strong survive just sounds like how nature is irl. Just survival of the fittest.
So that’s why it has the same sort of design as divinity. The tree was hella corrupted on the mission. And on the note of reshaping the worlds, I wonder if the planets will return down the line, reshaped in the darkness’ image. Maybe titan and Mercury can finally get the love they deserve
In the Savathun's Song strike they mention that only "Guardians can create void light." Looks like the Darkness can as well, equals indeed.
I wonder if the Traveler's Chosen sidearm was in that golden case that Zavala shut ?
"a World where only the strongest of everything remains"
-acolyte eye 3 seconds later: :)
Byf: noo the weapon is evil!
Me: haha void ball go sploosh
When zavala showed up he yeeted me across the map and got me killed
i love how it uses very similar principles and qualities to touch of malice but using savathuns power (i think but don’t quote me on that) with turning light and darkness into void balls, like in the strike where they mention turning guardians into void crystals.
I thought for sure you'd mention the parallel present between the action of this exotic and the story of the Savathun's song strike. Unless I'm totally forgetting, you never mentioned it.
I feel like the game is hinting at fallen guardians because beyond light shows a fallen wielding darkness and we know that the traveler was first with the fallen so it is not to far of a stretch. Also with mithraxx making a house of light and from lore tabs on queen breaker, outbreak perfected and others we know that guardians are working with him. Basically it comes down to if there is a fallen house of darkness wielding darkness, it makes sense that the fallen house of light wields light
The darkness considering us an equal is troubling, but it does almost confirm a theory I had a while back. Theory goes, the Winnower wants you to replace the Gardener. It believes you have a far better appreciation for the game than the current Gardener- or at the very least won’t mess with reality and change the rules to the point the Traveler already has.
Long story short, I believe the darkness believes you are the key to resetting the game back to its original form. Which... could also mean we’re the key to something far more than we it wants ya to believe. It’s interesting.
I cannot be the only guardian who wants to help the darkness and to snuff out all the weak. Of course means I am not a guardian you want to watch you back.
Its going to be fascinating seeing how this plays out. Eris remarks at how unlike an invasion this is. Then it occurs to me that the collapse wasnt an invasion either. The gravity waves and the destruction were the darkness terraforming the Earth.
Zavala is the greatest jumpscare since Alak-hul
Love the lure behind everything in destiny
This video made me think twice before equipping the weapon made me think of how im in a way helping the darkness shape it evil wishes into reality
I think the idea that the darkness gifts this weapon as the idea of us being equals is to represent the fact that the Light and the Darkness should co-exist in the universe rather than fight one another for its control. However, this meant that their approach was meant as a means to prove our worth as wielders of the light by imparting their ideology in the form of the Effigy. If we think back to the quote from the end of Shadowkeep: “We are not your friend, we are not your enemy. We are your salvation” They’ve already assessed us as their equals, but they want to deliver us from the fear of them as an enemy and (back on the effigy point) transform our fear of them into a weapon we can use to prove that we shouldnt fear them.
Its worrying that the pyramids will speak to us directly but the traveller wont do the same. It also makes sense for them to see us as an equal as technically we have been using sword logic the entire time.
The game that the traveler and darkness are playing, why does it sound like a game of Monopoly?
More like the Matrix.
4 d chess as savathun is playing 4D chess also
I love how Zavala makes a pun about the darkness calling their messages obtuse because of the pyramids
Yeah.. I'm glad that this gun wasn't given to the vanguard for containment. The whole reason we were even able to get Outbreak Perfected was because the fallen broke into the old tower vault and took it after the vanguard had contained it. Lmao. And let's not forget about The 4th Horseman. Literally goes missing after being in a secret passageway in Zavala's office for I don't even know how long.
Does anyone else think the Zavala we see talking to Eris is another projection of The Darkness? The way he talks about Savathun, with a strange sense of familiarity of their thoughts and behaviours, as if he personally knows Savathun;
"She thinks too much of herself, and too little of others"
I read this as The Darkness sizing up it's potential allies. It has previously been using the Hive and the Taken to do it's bidding, but these prove to be unreliable allies due to the power-hungry nature of their existence
The Hive and The Taken differ from humanity in that they are self-serving while we are selfless
Perhaps the Darkness is looking for more selfless allies, allies who can be corrupted but will continue to stay loyal even as their own power grows - Unlike the Hive who would turn on the Darkness the moment they think themselves powerful enough, because this is the nature of Sword Logic
Where is my exo stranger fish lore vid Byf!!!!!!!
On twitter. My god was it glorious beyond explanation
So it does use our light, I thought it was funny how the trigger was linked straight to the barrel. Still how badass does it look when you take on an army with a plank of wood and turn their friends into explosive basketballs and slam dunk them to death haha
Thr fact that the darkness is culling the weak gives me hope for the leviathan on Titan. I want the fishy to live.
I feel like Ikora should be angrier that the Darkness is terraforming Io. She was furios when the Red Legion was mining the Travelers energy. Now, the Darkness is smothering it, and transforming the world to fit the sword logic, yet she has had no reaction unless there’s a lore card I’ve missed.
“and all other life is brutally snuffed out”
proceeds to die to an acolyte’s eye
I find it interesting that it “spits out” void specifically, no matter the “current” type of light the Guardian is using. The same type of Light being gathered in Savathûn’s Song.
Byf not picking up every Sphere he makes gives me agita.
This lore makes the gardener and winnower analogy make so much more sense. According to google to winnow something means to blow a wind through a group of crops to remove chaff and pests, so using this analogy, the wind is destruction and chaos and the chaff is the weak life that dies in the process, leaving only the good crops aka strong life to grow and become stronger unhindered by waste and parasites. The flavor text of ruinous effigy even says “from the many wings of ruin blows a wind that will reshape this dead world.” The traveler also seeks strong life but it does so by changing worlds to be effective for life to advance, like a gardener enriching the soil to ensure the plants can grow as to be as healthy and bountiful as possible.
Eris; ok. I am just gonna casually use the taken king's soul, the destoryer of worlds and the man who have faced darkness itself and made a pact with it
as a crude experiment.
Honestly this has got to be one of the most "exotic-feeling" exotics. It reuses past mechanics but does so in a novel way. Seriously, turns enemies into a sphere and then you hold said sphere and you can generate a death field that eventually consumes your light? That's an exotic, man!
I'm thinking the Darkness wants us to become victors of a "flower game"...just like the Vex were in one of them. Turns out in the lore tab from this week's interference implied that for the collapse...we did something wrong and they meant to come in peace?
I realy hope that when some of the planets that are getting vaulted come back, they are all affected by the pyramids, and not the exact same
Something to notice that you didn’t mention, to get the catalyst, or to upgrade the catalyst, you must use the gun to destroy Savathuns eyes. Is the darkness no longer favoring the hive thanks to our countless victories? Or does it think Savathun seeks to overpower and maybe betray it and so uses the enemy of thy enemy as a friend for now.
Rn with all we’ve done, all we’ve followed is sword logic. We’ve proven better than the vex, than the fallen, than the cabal, and even the hive. We’ve slowly become the last thing standing , as guardians. Although what sets us apart is we are 3 races in total, and that we also have regular humans with guardians. I think that balance, of those that can’t and those that can die working together, to simply survive, not eradicate, is what will undo the darkness.
Warlock: we must use this weapon strategically.
Titan: HaHaHa LaZeR Go PeW
Fun fact: When I did this on reset, I was stood where Zavala spawns in and as he did it yeeted me across the area and killed me. So I got all this dialogue through the radio, which sounded very staticy and interfered with. Was pretty cool.
That Zavala and Eris conversation was pretty different to mine, Zavala spawned in on me scaring the hell out of me and then killing me flinging my body off somewhere