I really watching your channel because you take the time to point out the little things that make these songs sound great👍 The devil is the details(no pun intended) 🎸
Thank you! I try to give little pieces for that reason (try to anyways). I think some stuff gets taken for granted by teachers on accident. I probably miss stuff but I try hard to get in the vital nuggets!! 🤟🏻
I love how in depth you go through these tunes, little details that make all the difference. To me it’s really crucial to reverse engineer these songs, not only you need to understand them in a fundamental way to play better, but it opens a gateway of possibilities, you could come up with your own stuff knowing the foundations.
Thanks for the cool comment man! I appreciate the compliment and support. I try my best to lay it out in a sensible way that translates well. "Try". Lol. Glad it helps everyone! 😎🤟🏻
Thank you! She’s a little out of tune. I was struggling with it at times lol. But I’m proud of my build, it turned out pretty nice IMO. I appreciate your support. 😎🥂
Many thanks for the video. You've made it quite easy ... at least for me ;) It seems that specific tuning means a lot more that i thought. Love your channel! Greetings from Poland :)
I read that too. Seems like he said they took the photo for WACF and that was the end of it. Lol. I’d like to get one from EVH one day just to see how it sounds but the story Ed told makes me shy away from it.
Killer tune that every EVH fan should be able to rip out....and I dig the Unshark totally man, I have an Aria Pro II neck with a beak headstock that I am going to strap to an Explorer style body....inspired by your build which sounds epic man, really tears into those mids \m/
Great video! Can’t wait to see how you built the un-shark! It does sound great! 👍 I always thought This was VH’s most boring song until now. I had no idea there was so much going on.
Man that's awesome as always love your content UA-cam making them I'll keep watching them by the way thanks for the tips on adjusting my amp it's funny I was on that path but what you recommended definitely helped and made it sound better and I'm starting to get in the habit of rolling back my volume on some stuff I play now
Thanks Marty ! I was always missing part of the solo up at the 17th fret…those bends always threw me a bit, but you slowed it down and cleared it up for me…nice ! I really think on the earlier albums Eddie may have tuned the guitar to itself to keep the intonation sounding in tune like you said because I have noticed on some VH stuff if I tune every string down half a step with my tuner sometimes it doesn’t sound quite right… keep the great content coming 😎🎸
Thank you, I’m glad I helped out a bit! Yeh his tuning was weird. Somebody on here posted something about him detuned to eflat and up 22 cents etc etc… I don’t believe it. I think Eddie tune to eflat by ear and the guitar eventually went up in pitch. And Mike just tune to Eddie (after Ed fiddled with it to get it just right for tuning). Or they sped up the tape a tad. They did that a lot back in the reel to reel era.
Back in the day many like Van Halen, AC/DC, The Who, Quiet Roit tune by ear. While playin' along to a few songs from The Who & especially AC/DC older stuff it's no where near E flat but just flat.
Bro, when Halen came-out Ed's tuning drove me up the wall until I came across an article. He said " I tune the guitar to itself and Mike tunes to me". So, in the early days I had to tune to every song.
Yeh, I remember that .. I think wherever Eddie was in they went with it. He was always between e and e flat. Some guys say that tuning was intentional. Who knows??
This is another song that demonstrates Eddie’s way of building a song around richly textured chords played with an off-the-hip rhythmic sensibility-even at the very beginning. That must partly owe to his training in piano-a two handed instrument.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker I'm thinking just one Volkswagen horn slowed down and played backwards. Very nice lesson, I've enjoyed all your lessons and how have tablature really is incredibly helpful for me, and I'm sure plenty of other six stringers that you are teaching. Thanks again Marty5150. Also I remember reading Van Halen mentioned, you had to drive a Volkswagen to appreciate a Porsche. And that Volkswagen had a guitar string tied up to the the so it would stay shut , wouldn't swing open. DLR had a bluegrass song called Strumming with the Devil.
@@johndevaney3054 thanks John! I appreciate it and am happy to know you like the lessons! I really enjoy sharing and trying to help others plus it’s a lot of fun. I’ve heard DLR bluegrass stuff, it’s pretty cool. Never heard about the VW and the guitar string lol! That’s funny. Thanks again man! 😎🙌
Eddie once said that turning the Destroyer into a shark really killed the tone of the guitar. Way too much wood was removed from the body. He probably wished he could "un-shark" that guitar!
I read that too! I remember when EVH co released this guitar everyone’s first reaction was “so you reissued a guitar that Eddie personally stated he ruined the tone on by cutting it up?!” Lol. After that all the reviews stated it sounded great etc etc. I just couldn’t cut this one man. I probably would have messed it up also so I got scared. Lol.
@@crazysnarfy861 my first thought was how rough those cut edges would be. And all the work sanding it down. And then how it would look painted. It gave me anxiety. Then the possibility of it ruining the sound. This kit didn’t have the toggle switch route in it like the destroyer either so I was going to have to route that too. So I decided to not butcher it.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker It was a giant chunk of wood removed, very close to the bridge pickup of Eddie's Destroyer. With his ears, it's no wonder that he could tell the tone was different. I think he even added turnbuckles in that gaping hole to try and shore up the back end of the guitar to regain a bit of sustain. I wouldn't have the nerve to cut the guitar up, so maybe painting a big bite there could look cool!
this is how he plays the verse riff: an A chord, then the 3 on the E string, then the 5 on the E string. he does not go back to an A chord, nor does he bend the G like You Really Got Me. It's always just an A note, not a chord. He reaches his pinky over to play the 5th fret of the A string. At 1:00 in this video you can see it very clearly ua-cam.com/video/pi-MIpZrwwM/v-deo.html secondly, you should actually play (palm mute) the pedal tone A in between the next 3 diads in the verse, not just whack the strings. and speaking of the diads... they are just 2 notes. you correctly notated the notes, but there is no A string involved, and definitely no G and B string involved. he did the same type of diad with pedal tone in the "she wants to send him a letter" section of Jamie's Cryin'. This is all tabbed pretty much correctly in the official tab books. The official tabs that have been available for decades now are fairly accurate sources to go from, aside from the first thing I mentioned in this comment (there was never good enough video to see it). There seems to be a stigma around using official tabs, but they are really helpful if you know they are accurate, and they should not just be ignored when making lessons.
I believe you are mistaken. I tuned G slightly lower and there is no beating of the waves. It's a topic that is frequently discussed, you can do a google search for this. Well, at least try it out.... @@Ranch5150SkinWalker
E flat is great for singers too. The guitar also has a certain tone in e flat. I’m not sure they the studio didn’t also mess with tape speed on these records. Since this tune is between e flat and e it seems like they sped the tape up just a little. Just a theory! 😎
You’re keeping EVH’s legacy alive. 👍
You are a tremendously good teacher brilliant analysis and playing THANK YOU
You're very welcome!
I really watching your channel because you take the time to point out the little things that make these songs sound great👍 The devil is the details(no pun intended) 🎸
Thank you! I try to give little pieces for that reason (try to anyways). I think some stuff gets taken for granted by teachers on accident. I probably miss stuff but I try hard to get in the vital nuggets!! 🤟🏻
Yes, you’ve miss the pick scrap/slide at the end of each riff. 😁
@@anyversionofme very true indeed!
I love how in depth you go through these tunes, little details that make all the difference. To me it’s really crucial to reverse engineer these songs, not only you need to understand them in a fundamental way to play better, but it opens a gateway of possibilities, you could come up with your own stuff knowing the foundations.
Thanks for the cool comment man! I appreciate the compliment and support. I try my best to lay it out in a sensible way that translates well. "Try". Lol. Glad it helps everyone! 😎🤟🏻
I appreciate your Van Halen content very much. Thank you.
You’re welcome! I appreciate the comment and you checking it out. 😎🥂
LOVE ... the Un-Shark! Killah sounds and lesson!
Thank you! She’s a little out of tune. I was struggling with it at times lol. But I’m proud of my build, it turned out pretty nice IMO. I appreciate your support. 😎🥂
Many thanks for the video. You've made it quite easy ... at least for me ;) It seems that specific tuning means a lot more that i thought.
Love your channel! Greetings from Poland :)
Hello! Thanks for the comment and I appreciate the support. Welcome to the channel! Glad you enjoyed the video. 😎🤟🏻
Nice demo! Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome!!
Well done and very thorough on all the parts, tuning,harmonics and trademark Van Halen custom touches!!!
what a great lesson, Marty! I play alone most of the time, so I try to add the bass line in. you solved the riddle for me! Thanks!
Happy to help!
I think i read an interview were Eddie said he killed the tone of the Guitar taken the chunk out.
I read that too. Seems like he said they took the photo for WACF and that was the end of it. Lol. I’d like to get one from EVH one day just to see how it sounds but the story Ed told makes me shy away from it.
It was that bridge. They were known as tone robbers.
Frankie and Shark are my favorite VH guitars
Great job simplifying a Van Halen classic song! 👍
Killer tune that every EVH fan should be able to rip out....and I dig the Unshark totally man, I have an Aria Pro II neck with a beak headstock that I am going to strap to an Explorer style body....inspired by your build which sounds epic man, really tears into those mids \m/
Thanks Dave! Good luck in your project! I love working on these things 🤟🏻🤟🏻
Great video!
Can’t wait to see how you built the un-shark!
It does sound great! 👍
I always thought This was VH’s most boring song until now.
I had no idea there was so much going on.
Thanks so much! It was quite a process but totally fun!
I agree AJM. Great video and guitar. ☺️
This is fantastic, thanks!
Thanks so much, I love to hear the videos help!
Thanxxxx Marty for doing the vids appreciate it keep Rockin the VH🤘🎸
You’re welcome man! Thank you 😎🙌
Great stuff man
Thanks for sharing man, awesome!!
Thanks for watching!
Man that's awesome as always love your content UA-cam making them I'll keep watching them by the way thanks for the tips on adjusting my amp it's funny I was on that path but what you recommended definitely helped and made it sound better and I'm starting to get in the habit of rolling back my volume on some stuff I play now
Thanks Kenneth. We all learn from each other man. Any tips you can slide me I appreciate it too! 😎🤟🏻
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker man I don't know anything I could show anybody but I would love for someone to pick something up off of me I would be privileged
@Niecgram-Me-Marty5150 Merry Christmas to you as well man I hope you had a good one and have a blessed and safe New Year
Thank you great lesson!
Thanks man! I appreciate it 😎🙌
This is such a great video on this awesome song.
Thanks Marty.
The first van halen song I learned.
It’s a good starter! And fun to play even later down the road 😎🥂
Thanks Marty ! I was always missing part of the solo up at the 17th fret…those bends always threw me a bit, but you slowed it down and cleared it up for me…nice ! I really think on the earlier albums Eddie may have tuned the guitar to itself to keep the intonation sounding in tune like you said because I have noticed on some VH stuff if I tune every string down half a step with my tuner sometimes it doesn’t sound quite right… keep the great content coming 😎🎸
Thank you, I’m glad I helped out a bit! Yeh his tuning was weird. Somebody on here posted something about him detuned to eflat and up 22 cents etc etc… I don’t believe it. I think Eddie tune to eflat by ear and the guitar eventually went up in pitch. And Mike just tune to Eddie (after Ed fiddled with it to get it just right for tuning). Or they sped up the tape a tad. They did that a lot back in the reel to reel era.
Back in the day many like Van Halen, AC/DC, The Who, Quiet Roit tune by ear. While playin' along to a few songs from The Who & especially AC/DC older stuff it's no where near E flat but just flat.
Yea Phil X said the same thing with the B string ! Another great lesson Marty
Thanks man! I love Phil X btw. Great player and attitude!
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker yea he’s a great guy !🤘
Awesome thank you so much for all you do
Bro, when Halen came-out Ed's tuning drove me up the wall until I came across an article. He said " I tune the guitar to itself and Mike tunes to me". So, in the early days I had to tune to every song.
Yeh, I remember that .. I think wherever Eddie was in they went with it. He was always between e and e flat. Some guys say that tuning was intentional. Who knows??
I have to do the string rake on the headstock tho I don't have a stoptail
Hey! It works man. 😎🤟🏻
This is another song that demonstrates Eddie’s way of building a song around richly textured chords played with an off-the-hip rhythmic sensibility-even at the very beginning. That must partly owe to his training in piano-a two handed instrument.
Hey Marty, was "Jamie's Cryin" also done on the destroyer?
That sound he get @2:00 in the song is simple b@d@ss.
It blows me away to think he wrote this at 18, 19 or 20? The word genius is an understatement.
That train sound at the start is a car horn played backwards.
Looks like an old Hondo I started on.
The very beginning of the song is a Volkswagen horn slowed down and played backwards
Cool! Lots of horns overdubbed I am sure. 🙌
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker I'm thinking just one Volkswagen horn slowed down and played backwards. Very nice lesson, I've enjoyed all your lessons and how have tablature really is incredibly helpful for me, and I'm sure plenty of other six stringers that you are teaching. Thanks again Marty5150. Also I remember reading Van Halen mentioned, you had to drive a Volkswagen to appreciate a Porsche. And that Volkswagen had a guitar string tied up to the the so it would stay shut , wouldn't swing open.
DLR had a bluegrass song called Strumming with the Devil.
@@johndevaney3054 thanks John! I appreciate it and am happy to know you like the lessons! I really enjoy sharing and trying to help others plus it’s a lot of fun. I’ve heard DLR bluegrass stuff, it’s pretty cool. Never heard about the VW and the guitar string lol! That’s funny. Thanks again man! 😎🙌
Marty is correct…it was multiple car horns, one from Eddie’s Opel and others, hooked to a car battery and recorded together outside of Sunset Studios.
Killer guitar! Frankly I like the “Unshark,” better than Eddie’s mangled mess.
Eddie once said that turning the Destroyer into a shark really killed the tone of the guitar. Way too much wood was removed from the body. He probably wished he could "un-shark" that guitar!
I read that too! I remember when EVH co released this guitar everyone’s first reaction was “so you reissued a guitar that Eddie personally stated he ruined the tone on by cutting it up?!” Lol. After that all the reviews stated it sounded great etc etc. I just couldn’t cut this one man. I probably would have messed it up also so I got scared. Lol.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker I would have been worried about messing the guitar up too!
@@crazysnarfy861 my first thought was how rough those cut edges would be. And all the work sanding it down. And then how it would look painted. It gave me anxiety. Then the possibility of it ruining the sound. This kit didn’t have the toggle switch route in it like the destroyer either so I was going to have to route that too. So I decided to not butcher it.
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker It was a giant chunk of wood removed, very close to the bridge pickup of Eddie's Destroyer. With his ears, it's no wonder that he could tell the tone was different. I think he even added turnbuckles in that gaping hole to try and shore up the back end of the guitar to regain a bit of sustain. I wouldn't have the nerve to cut the guitar up, so maybe painting a big bite there could look cool!
@@crazysnarfy861 the painted bite is a good idea!!
There's no pull off at the end of that last chord. Check out the isolated track with good headphones.
this is how he plays the verse riff: an A chord, then the 3 on the E string, then the 5 on the E string. he does not go back to an A chord, nor does he bend the G like You Really Got Me. It's always just an A note, not a chord. He reaches his pinky over to play the 5th fret of the A string. At 1:00 in this video you can see it very clearly
ua-cam.com/video/pi-MIpZrwwM/v-deo.html
secondly, you should actually play (palm mute) the pedal tone A in between the next 3 diads in the verse, not just whack the strings. and speaking of the diads... they are just 2 notes. you correctly notated the notes, but there is no A string involved, and definitely no G and B string involved. he did the same type of diad with pedal tone in the "she wants to send him a letter" section of Jamie's Cryin'. This is all tabbed pretty much correctly in the official tab books.
The official tabs that have been available for decades now are fairly accurate sources to go from, aside from the first thing I mentioned in this comment (there was never good enough video to see it). There seems to be a stigma around using official tabs, but they are really helpful if you know they are accurate, and they should not just be ignored when making lessons.
Thanks man! 😎☮️
@@Ranch5150SkinWalker hopefully that didn't come off wrong. just trying to help a fellow evh nut! I love your take on Shark without the mouth lol
@@tanneryordan nah man. All good bro. Thanks so much!
thats not unshark........that guitar is UnChunked
True! Lol
he tuned down the g string though
He tuned the B a little flat to make the major third sound better on the intervals higher up on the neck 😎🤟🏻
I believe you are mistaken. I tuned G slightly lower and there is no beating of the waves. It's a topic that is frequently discussed, you can do a google search for this. Well, at least try it out.... @@Ranch5150SkinWalker
E flat means easier to play faster
Wow man that E flat sounds sharp man dude
@@edsnotgod yeh I was fighting with it! This is a $179 kit build. Lol. It straightens out once in a while. Still tweaking it
E flat is great for singers too. The guitar also has a certain tone in e flat. I’m not sure they the studio didn’t also mess with tape speed on these records. Since this tune is between e flat and e it seems like they sped the tape up just a little. Just a theory! 😎
Too much talking mate