There are no problem to invade Russia, it have been done successfully by Sweden, Poland and Germany etc. What is true do NOT invade Russia if Russia have strong allies that is hostile toward you.
No one Was Defeated By Russian Winter all who lost (Charles XII,Napoleon and Hitler )Were simply unprepared .Or were simply Idiots like Hitler (His officers advising him to Start Civil War in Russia like in WW1 with Lenin .But He Refuse this)Chalres was like :My army dont need Supplies wee,And Napoleon dont want Defeat Tsar he Want make him his ally .( Napoleon say than Real centre of Russia is Moscow and if They lost it then Tsar Must Surrender .It was simply wishfull thinking who leads to defeat )He can defeat Russia simply Taking Petersburg and saying than Russia lost Belarus,and Ukraine .And Russia cannot oposse this .If Tsar Escape on Siberia . its dont matter becouse Russian army cannot defeat Bonaparte so he can force them to anything and if they oppose he can loot Petersburg. back on Ukraine and Belarus For Winter .and if Russia not aggred on peace terms then More looting until they aggree. But Bonaparte dont understand Russia and dont listen people who understand.
I want you guys to know that as an English speaker interested in Asian history to know that this channel is a dream. You guys produce great content and as long as you stick with it, one day the youtube algorithm will bless you. Thank you for bringing all these stories to the west!
Vietnam history 1075-1077. Battle between Ly dynasty (Đai Viet - Vietnam) and Song dynasty (China). 3 Episodes Animation movie have Engsub: ua-cam.com/video/AbRg5rH6fxo/v-deo.html (ep1) ua-cam.com/video/TQehUlbyp3o/v-deo.html (ep2) ua-cam.com/video/c1aKcDx2FI4/v-deo.html (ep3)
I searched up this "Vietnamese trees talk" meme to see what are referring to. I thought the meme was talking about the ancient vietnamese war with the chinese 1000 years earlier. But internet told me the meme is about american vietnamese war. Anyway back in the old days, they rally the people against the chinese by etching certain text onto tree leaves and distributed the leaves in the river. As people found the leaves down stream, people thought the it was heaven will that the chinese will lose the war, thus everyone stood up and fight, and they won. That was the first time that Vietnamese tree talks.
some little tidbit: 1. 10:46 it actually not that simple. The supply fleet was escorted by a powerful fleet that moved ahead to "clean way".. the Vietnamese general in charge of that area, Trần Khánh Dư, attacked that fleet, but he quickly ran away and retreated to his safe haven.. The escort fleet, thinking that they ruled the wave now, speed up to support the land army, leaving the slower supply ship behind - and then Trần Khánh Dư moved out with his entire force and successfully mauled the important supply fleet.. 2. due to the somewhat predictable strategy of the Mongol, Trần Quốc Tuấn is actually quite confident about his victory chance in the 3rd war, saying something along the line of "we get them twice, we will surely get them the 3rd time". 3. Trần Quốc Tuấn is actually a big claimant to the throne, since his father Prince Trần Liễu is actually the older brother of King Trần Thái Tông.. despite being older, Trần Liễu got skipped over since he is too old to be manipulated by the "King-maker" Trần Thủ Độ, and his wife got take away to marry his brother the king (since the queen is infertile, while Liễu's wife already gave birth to a boy before).. Liễu actually urged his son (Quốc Tuấn) to take back the throne, but Quốc Tuấn never did.. people tend to use this story as an example of Trần Quốc Tuấn's loyalty, but it's also a big gesture of trust for the Trần king to actually put such a dangerous claimant to the position of Commander in Chief.. 4. according to Vietnamese source, Toghan, after being wounded by the arrow, was too weak to ride (and too scare) that he told his men to carry him back home in a bronze tube..
There are a debate that Trần Khánh Dư actually send a fleet made mostly from small ships to engage at the first time and let them be killed completely. The victory against that fleet make Yuan Navy though that they have annihilate Dai Viet navy but in fact the bulk of entire navy, including warship still in Vân Đồn. When the warships left the logistics fleet behind, entire main force attack at once and destroy the logistics fleet. This debate based on records that Trần Khánh Dư like to use sacrifice tactic, let enemy killed army made from low-quality troops like conscripted farmers to lure enemy into illusion and off-guard, then strike a decisive battle with his well-trained army. His point of view on this tactic lead so much people hate him and they plotted against him, fired him from the court and he has to sell coals for a long time between the second and third invasion. Actually after the first defeat, the court want to chain him to Thang Long for trials but he send a letter guarantee that he will destroy all logistics ships, and luckily he can do that so the sentence was lifted.
Vietnamese body built maybe small but they fight everybody and they battle you out till the end. They make you remember the horror of these battles for many generations to come.
If you really believe that muscles are all that matter in a war, then you would be a terrible general and your all soldiers would be butchered. We don’t need to fight with our muscles because booby traps, snake traps, and all beautiful female spies do their job really well
Winning or losing is defined by judging if the original objective is achieved. In this case, the original goal of the Mongols weren't to get tribute from Dai Viet but to subjugate her, annex the whole country and put her fully under direct Mongol rule like they did with China. They failed to meet that goal, so they've lost! As for the paying tribute part, that's only a face-saving measure to soothe their ego, make them feel good with their loss, and so doesn't mean much and Dai Viet also didn't actually fulfill the obligations! So at the end, the Mongols failed on that face-saving measure too! They got really mad so they planned a fourth invasion but the Yuan disintegrated before that could happen.
People can debate about if the Mongols achieve there goals in the end, at least many can agree although they won against there enemy in open battlefield, the Mongols cannot hole Dai Viet or Champa do to enemy use of guerrilla tactics and short of supplies. In the end they have to left & avoid getting wipeout. Dai Viet & Champa although still pay tribute to keep the Mongols from any more Invasion, and recognize them as a powerful forces, they still have there independent & rule there own kingdom overall ... and survived against Mongols army invasion is quite an achievement that only fews kingdom did. ( Althought im more impressed of how India fought the Mongols head-on & won in some openfield battle, while others use more guerrilla tactics, successful ambush or naval combat ... and Japan has bad weather on there side ) XD
@@mr.bluefox3511, Engaging in open battle or using guerilla tactics are only ways to fight wars and the smart ones use whichever works for them. The Mongols liked to engage in open battle because they had the advantage in doing so while Viets and Chams liked to ambush because that's their advantage! It's just so dumb to say that somehow it's more impressive when you deliberately handicap yourself by choosing to play your enemy's game! Smart humans fight with their brain! And tactics alone can't guarantee victory. It depends on the person who employs them! How many countries have actually won against the Mongols using guerilla tactics?! So again, it's dumb to say Dai Viet and Champa won because they used guerilla tactics! And it actually wasn't all guerilla tactics that brought Dai Viet victory! The Mongols did successfully occupy parts of India for decades. If India was small in land and number like Dai Viet or Champa, the story would have been different. I'm not impressed. You talk as if Dai Viet and Champa were lucky to win because they have some advantages! The short of supplies excuse is actually very lame because if you look at the map, Hanoi is only about 70km from the border with China and the flat land stretches half that distance. They only made up that excuse so they don't look too pathetic in their history book! LOL!
@@diehardcat jeez come down men, i don't mean to stress you out like that. It's just i my own "small & short" opinion of everything happened in the past. Im a sucker for History myself, especially about everything that related to War, like how logistics work, the strength & weakness between 2 combatant or 2 Army, the Politicic, the gap in technology & science, ect ... And i am a Vietnamese, i understood Guerrilla tactics & it effectiveness that my people back then, and every around the world did in the past very well. Although i and Vietnamese people are proud of defending against 3 Mongol invasion in the past, im also want to have i open minded views & somewhat unbiased point-of-view of everything else happened around it. And the last question about "did 2 side both really win in the end" also interested me, but not too important (for me) to debate with everyone else. We all did learned what the video want to show anyway. I could have when more details about my old comment above, about why it was important that Dai Viet & Champa maintain there independent, or why i am more impressed with Indian Cavalry-forces army fought with Mongol in some openfield battle. But it would also be a massive amounts of information in a simple comment, that i did so many time in the past ... and right now. I believe this is why you respond to me, my comments was short of Intel & easily lead to misunderstood. Although, i would acknowledge your opinion is good & informal. Which i really agreed & cannot denied. Other than the tone of your words, your opinion is just more good information for this comment-section.
Tbh the part about luring the enemy ships into the iron tip spikes wasn’t that simple as you said in this video since you have to time it perfectly; not too early so the enemy can just pass through the spikes unharmed nor too late that they can spot the spikes and avoid the trap. The planning and the execution were so flawless that this tactic had become legendary in Vietnam history.
@@chaikien2081 , yeah, the Mongol inexperience with naval operations damned the Japanese invasion to failure, even if it terminally damaged the then Hojo shogunate, and led to a decline of Japan as a major regional power for 2 centuries.
@@chaikien2081 lmao chinese history is absolutely crooked, how can you claim that everything they told you is true 🤣 chinese history is written by chinese kings/emperors because they wanted to be the good guy after invading and assimilating the entire world, go read a book about Viet and China relationships after 5000 years of sharing a border, you will see why we rather trust the Champa than you Chinese, because every 50 years you Chinese would send a giant army down south to “collect taxes” and “civilize” us so we all consider you “northern invaders” the same. Go read some real books and learn English properly.
I like how the DaiViet uses historical records and improvise natural condition as their strength in the assymetrical warfare. More than that, acknowledging victory not with boastfullness but with praises to the enemy.
Actually, Võ Nguyên Giáp, First 4 stars general of Vietnam People's Army is a history teacher. He studied alot about history of war in the world, he is even fan of Napoleon and ironically use his tactics to defeat French: Using artilleries on unexpected positions.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Yeah, for me Ho Chi Minh trail is one of the most complicate logistic system in the world in that time. Those supply road is a combination of spirit, technology and intelligence. From just a small trail, even some place you must to cross the jungle and mountain without any sight of human to many roads that can feed whole army of hundreds thousands men, tanks, trucks and military equipments,food, medical, oil, gas, weapons, etc effectively under enemy bombs. Unit 559, the unit which have responsibility for Ho Chi Minh trail alone have more than 100.000 men and women. More than any single military unit North Vietnam have this time.
Pre-historic Vietnam was home to some of the world's earliest civilizations, making the Vietnamese, one of the world's first peoples who had practiced agriculture. With an intriguing history of achieving what others deem impossible, Vietnam is a country like no other. The New York Times wrote, "Vietnam has a history of resisting the world’s great powers. It threw out the French after almost a century of colonization and then handed the United States a humiliating defeat. That same spirit has emerged in its war of wills, this time over China’s attempts to project its growing power closer to Vietnam’s shores." The deadly anti-China riots in Vietnam in 2014 as the result of China's illegal placement of its oil rig in Vietnam's waters, drove more than 40,000 Chinese nationals back to their mainland China. The history of Vietnam’s formidable people and defenses dated well before the Vietnam War and even before the Mongol invasion of Vietnam in 13th century. In fact, it dated back to the war against the Chinese invasion of Vietnam in 300 BC. However, the famous battles of the Vietnamese army against the mighty Mongol Empire have become the most celebrated episode in the history of Vietnam. Scholars regard the Mongol conquest as one of the deadliest invasions in human history. The unbeatable Mongol army had conquered half of the known world, but eventually given itself up to a small country named Dai Viet (currently Vietnam)! In less than 80 years, the Mongol Empire encompassed entire land from the Pacific Ocean to the Danube River. After having successfully conquered Eastern and Central Europe, Middle East, Central Asia, Great Russia, all of China in the 13th century, the powerful Mongol Empire immediately started their southward expansion in Southeast Asia where it finally met its match. Even China was agonizingly defeated and completely conquered by the mighty Mongol army, which by contrast was bitterly defeated 3 times by the resilient Vietnamese. The decisive victory of the Vietnamese army over the invading mighty Mongol army in the bloody battle at the Bach Dang River in 1288 eventually brought an end to the Mongols' invasion of Dai Viet (currently Vietnam) as well as their dream of conquering the entire world. If the Mongol Empire had learned that the Chinese Empires before them had been bitterly kicked out of Vietnam after their 10 centuries of occupation while completely failing to assimilate the Vietnamese, the mighty Mongol Empire would have never even thought of invading Vietnam.
Vietnam wasn't the last place invaded by the mongols, it merely stopped their land grabs on the mainland south. They still attacked Java afterwards. also 10 centuries of rule is longer than many empires have ever existed. Vietnam is a relatively new state like how Russia is now. At least with it's current Regime.
Of course Dai Viet won. You can't say someone won a war by gaining tributes. Those tributes value means nothing to a country you own and have control over. If Mongol succeeded taken over Dai Viet back then, the amount of goods is billions time better than those tributes Dai Viet sent over. The value of keeping your own country free and independent is priceless, I have to mention again, PRICELESS. The act of sending tributes back then is more of a friendship act, an act to maintain normal trades between countries. Heck, if Dai Viet back then just didn't send tribute at all to Mongol because let's say they just don't want to, DARE the Mongolians to ever step a foot back again to Dai Viet land. Trading, economic and peace value just greater than those tributes. 3 times. Remember not only once but 3 times they kicked Mongol's ass. Don't "f" with the Vietnamese. I didn't say it. History did!
A tribute system is just another word for trade during the time. So the vassal states would send tribute to Chinese empires while receiving "gifts" of equal value. Such relationship is not only between Vietnam and China. This is recorded in Chinese historical records as well. Vassalage is a way Chinese emperors used to glorify themselves over the existence of independent unconquerable or unmanageable land parts under Chinese geographical and cultural range of influence. So it's a hard but true fact for Chinese nationalists that this time the Yuan lost.
Vietnam's objective was to pacify the Mongols, not to conquer them; therefore, they did in fact succeeded in doing so. From that perspective, Vietnam won.
It has been used for very long time against Chinese, first records was Ngo Quyen used that to release Vietnam from China after be annexed 1000 years ago, then on the first Dai Viet - Song war that trap was used again (bonus: the Song was so weak so that at the second time when they try to annex Dai Viet to increase their voice against nearly countries - which force Song Emperor to tribute - they were invaded by Vietnamese lead by Lý Thường Kiệt to destroy all preparations. With logistics supports at the border be destroyed, Song emperor had to move army from the north for the invasion, which cost a lot of money and time and the invasion in total was not well-prepare, lead to the failure.) The question of this battle is the REAL terrain of Bach Dang river at that time, the terrain changed so much so that many of pikes established for this battle has been excavated deeply on land nowadays (the newest just be found near the end of 2020, several kilometers from Bach Dang river bank). This is not the strange thing in Vietnam, Hoi An, one famous trading center of Japanese during Trinh-Nguyen civil war now deeply on land, several kilometers from the beach even though draw pictures from Japanese and Portuguese shows Hoi An located right at the beach during that era, Galleon ships can come close to trade.
Vietnam never surrendered to any enemy, the Mongols were greatly destroyed at the 2nd and 3rd invasions, in my hometown there were places as high as the hills, which were the burial pits. Mongolian army was killed in battle. In the 2nd and 3rd time Prince mongorila had to get into a copper tube to keep his life
VN history is as rich and fascinating as those of Korea, Japan, Majapahit, etc yet very few talented content creaters have heard of it. This is absolutely the best video on VN history I've ever seen. You even delve into the nuance of the tributary system and the emperor/king titles used by the mornarchs. This video has my unreserved praise.
exactly, now people in america, canada, australia and europe can finally understand and learn this story, before only very few vietnamese language videos covered it, much respect!
Dai Viet and Champa definitely won. Their goal was to maintain independence from the Mongols, which they did. The Mongols, on the other hand, wanted to conquer Dai Viet and Champa, and they failed to do. Therefore, the Mongols lost the war.
Could you please cover the different nomadic peoples who have inhabited Mongolia? They had diverse genetic makeups, cultures and ways of life yet we tend to lump them together as "Mongols"
It’s all relative. The Mongols defeated and conquered many big and strong countries including the giant neighboring China yet was defeated 3 times by Viets. That in itself is a big military victory for the brave Viets. Letting the powerful Mongols save face by paying them off at the end is a smart political move by the Viets. A tied match between a 100-lb guy and a 800-lb pro fighter is definitely a big win for the brave and smart underdog. It’s all relative.
some fixes: at 9:53 it's Trần Ích Tắc, not Trần Thánh Tông. also, Sogetu was ordered to leave Champa and head to Dai Viet to rendezvous with Toghan's force. But when he came, Toghan had already left. Sogetu was left behind and killed at Hàm Tử pass. So for who's the winner: I'd say it's the Đại Việt and the Champa. You can argue that the Mongol/Yuan won the war due to Đại Việt and Champa established their tributary to the Yuan. But in fact, it was just a diplomatic move since both knew that their countries had been ravaged by wars and the people needed to recover. The tributary was just a small price for long-term peace for their countries. About the Mongols/Yuan, their objective was to conquer Đai Việt and Champa and used those lands as their pivot to expand all over Southeast Asia, but they were not able to make it. They did make more invasions to Java in 1293, which was to no avail. Kublai wanted another invasion, but he died in 1294. Anyways, Great vids.
They set out to conquer dai viet with a huge army and many commanders, but ended up getting starved and slaughtered and ended up retreating. In what world does that count as a win???? That's called a massive loss, not once, not twice, three times in a row. It's not a tie.
beat the crap out of the bully and then threw some money into his face, and the bully just accepted the money and left. that's not just a win. it's a complete humiliation to kublai.
I wouldnt call those 3 invades from Mongol a win. When I play total war three kingdoms, I spend 10k gold to invade other country. I lost, but hey that country paid me like 5k gold as a tribute. Was that a win? No. Its like a slap in my face. Mongols lost like 500.000-1000.000 men in Vietnam, for some gold? Yea. That doesnt sound like a win to me.
Well, I wouldn’t say the Japanese “used” the storm or “kamikaze”( divine wind ) to disperse the Mongol fleets but in fact Japan was saved and protected multiple times by “kamikaze” which most of Japanese people back then believed that was an act of god saving them from the Mongol invasions. As you may know, this term later on refers to the suicide attacks of Japanese military aviators during the WW2. Vietnam, on the other hand, was saved from their great leaders and historical wisdom over a long period of time resisting against foreign invaders.
Do you understand what it means to take less and more enemies? Because the Vietnamese understood the strengths and weaknesses of the Mongols very well, they knew that if they were to confront an army that was skilled and many times larger, they would suffer a lot of losses, and they realized that the Mongols often The Vietnamese did not bring much food when fighting, so the Vietnamese applied the "garden without a house" tactic, that is, burned all the food and moved the people into the deep forest, waiting for the enemy to plunder nothing. and lack of food, the spirit of depression will organize decisive battles, from which victory will be achieved, that is the military art of Vietnam, the country has won thousands of huge enemies throughout. Your history is not as simple as you think. Thanks!
I must say I'm impressed by your video. Finally there is a UA-camrs that drew a (fairly accurate) version of our clothes at that time. Most of the foreign UA-camrs and Vietnamese UA-camrs always use ridiculous imaginative clothes which have no historical accuracy at all. Plus you also mentioned our very important policy of "Emperor inside, King outside", I love that!
You actually did it! Thanks, and it just so happens I just finished listening to a podcast about the Khmer empire so this is a neat video to follow up on.
as per our tradition: "we'd rather die standing than live kneeling" thà chết đứng còn hơn sống quỳ, dù có thế nào cũng nhất quyết không làm nô lệ cho kẻ khác
Actually, the Mongol prepared the 4th, 5th and even the 6th time to invade Dai Viet again but those had been canceled so you cannot say that the Mongol won.
@@shovuthmen5478 Kinda like pity tribute since Vietnamese care about actual ppl then artificial tribute. In fact, it proved to be more profitable in the long run. Though they suffered heavy lost again from another Viet dynasty.
@@shovuthmen5478 I mean, a little tribute to avoid a war against an enemy at its height. Just for context, around this time is when the territory of the Mongolian stretch from northern Viet Nam all the way to land near today’s Moscow. Seem pretty reasonable.
I am loving your channel, I took a Japanese and Mongol history classes in college and these help me understand more and peak my interest in again history more
Kinda like the Sino Viet War of 1979. The PRC had two objectives. Staring down the Soviets who were supporting Vietnam, and evicting Vietnam from Cambodia. China claimed they won since they invaded Vietnam and were in striking range of Hanoi before retreating. It also showed the USSR was not about to go to war over Vietnam. Vietnam claimed victory as their main army was in Cambodia, and remained there till the 90s while China retreated after sufferinh frankly embarrassing casualties.
They not even got anywhere near Hanoi to begin with. They were wrecked by local militia and armed police,when the Vietnamese Main Forces-the legendary,battle harderned 2nd Corps arives,the PLA retreated.
Yes both sides were head butting each other like stubborn mules. Soviets did not came while Chinese were losing more men than they could expect. Cambodia wasn't relieved but enough to prevent a takeover.
Of course, anybody can claim anything but one must look at the claims to see if they actually hold any water. China claimed that it successfully proved that the USSR wouldn't help Vietnam in case of a war. That's lame because what China did can't be called a war! It's an insult to any war! China only dared to tickle Vietnam a little and run home really fast before even Vietnam could organize any real response by its main forces, so how can Vietnam or the USSR take China's 'war' seriously to mobilize?! Both countries obviously didn't have time for that Chinese childish tantrum. That stupid action of China can only prove the opposite that China was really scare of the Soviet-Vietnam alliance. It could also only prove that the China-Khmer Rouge alliance was a farce because Vietnam wouldn't budge and had continued to stay in Cambodia for the next 10 years to exterminate every last one of the Khmer Rouge and all China could do was staging a chicken run at the border in three weeks and screaming on the sideline afterwards.
Indos should be grateful and thanking vietnam. Without vietnam, indos would get conquered by the mongols and indonesia would have been deleted off the map
not us, its your war leaders at that time who openly tell the world that they based most of their strategy on a book written by Indonesian war hero about Indonesian war independence
@@laosi4278 da fuck? Where u hear this from? Sounds like a lie. Indos trying to get credit from a war they werent even involved in or on the other side.
@@laosi4278 no. The onl foreign material that vietnamese like to read sun tzus art of war book and european history, and even then their relevance to todays war planning and atrategizing is not 100%. And what indonesian war hero? Literally no one has ever heard of indonesia. Anything that pops up in anyones mind about indonesia is muslim culture. Thats about it. Nothing special about indonesia really. Indonesia has not exactly achieved much in the world so how would anyone get any idea from indonesia? Sick of indos thinking that they are superior when theyre really.not.
According to Chinese and Vietnamese accounts, Sogetu had moved from Champa in order to encircled Đại Việt from the south. It was his victories that forced Trần Kiện, a Đại Việt prince, to surrender. Later, however, Sogetu was ambushed and killed by the two Đại Việt emperors.
@@ieptranphuc7167 Actually Sogetu wasn’t kill in Champa at all. At that point he had already moved to Vietnam. The battle of Tây Kết showed Vietnamese forces commanded by the two emperors (interesting, not by Hưng Đạo Vương as usual) ambushed and destroyed Sogetu’s forces.
I love how your maps gives a rough idea of the topography of a partcular area. Very helpful for someone who isn't so familiar with the various physical features of the different regions.
Why does it seem to be hard to say who wins here? I mean, if we put it simple like this: - Mongol wanted to subjugate Dai Viet and Champa politically and then militarily, but they failed to do so 3 times => So they lost; - Viet Nam (Dai Viet) and Champa, on the other hand, successfully repelled 3 invasions, solidify their ground => So they won. Of course, after any war ends, both side will gradually re-establish their relationship, regardless of the degree or conditions. Therefore, even though none was completely destroyed, it does not mean none was winning (or losing for that matter). This is NOT a stalemate!
One thing isn’t correct that Khubilai didn’t win. He refused to accept that his army is destroyed in Dai Viet with more than 1 million deaths(The Great Yue). He prepared the fourth invasion into Dai Viet but it took much time because of the losses is heavy. He died before the fourth invasion is done and the next leader choose to make peace with Dai Viet.
2:43 WHAT. You're pretty wrong here. In the first invasion, it's true that Mongol captured Dai Viet capital. But they starved there because there's no food for them to steal. Then Dai Viet( Tran Dynasty) waited for 10 days then counter attack by landing from ships to the capital. They Mongol army were weaken by the lack of food could not match. They fled to Dali land that they had conquered, not to attack the Song Dynasty from Dai Viet'land.
Got to give it to the Dai Viet for defeating the mongols. The mongols was a strong and destructive force they even conquered China, Russia and most of the Middle East.
Trần Quốc Tuấn was a rather fascinating figure. His father, Prince Trần Liễu, whose wife was taken by the emperor Thái Tông(Though it was not the emperor's fault,Trần Thủ Độ was the one should be blamed).Trần Liễu was angry and rebelled and failed ,his life was spared but all his troops were executed. Later ,in his deathbed, Liễu forced Quốc Tuấn to swear to avenge him and become Emperor. As you know Quốc Tuấn didn't even attempt it. After his own death,the people worship him as a deity and he become a patron god of Vietnamese militarians.
The ancestors of the Trần clan, Trần Kinh (陳京 Chén Jīng) migrated from the province of Fujian to Đại Việt during the early 12th century. He settled in Tức Mặc village (now Mỹ Lộc, Nam Định) and lived by fishing.[13][3] His grandson Trần Lý (陳李; 1151 - 1210), became a wealthy landowner in the area.[14][15][4] Trần Lý's grandson, Trần Cảnh later established the Trần dynasty. From Trần Lý onwards, the Trần clan became related to the Lý clan by intermarriages with several royal members of the Royal Lý dynasty.
@@stanleysmith3706 According to Tran clan's official site (written in Vietnamese), they were one of the Baiyue people living in Minyue (Fuijan nowadays, existed from 334-110 BCE). Baiyue is an umbrella term used by the ancient Chinese to call the southern barbarians in southern modern China, consisting of some linguistic groups like Tai-Kadai, Austroasiatic (arguably one our ancestors), Hmong-Mien,... In 227 BCE, after seeing the conflicts between the ancient Han Chinese and the Baiyue people, Tran Tu Minh (Tran's clan ancestor) migrated southward with many other Baiyue people and became a general under An Duong Vuong, king of Au Lac (ancient Vietnamese kingdom) and fought against Zhao Tou. Fast forward roughly a thousand years, Tran Hoang Nghi (from a branch of the clan) gave birth to a few kids, one of them is Tran Thu Do, who later established the Tran Dynasty.
@@stanleysmith3706 And even if you information was correct then calling their ancestor Chinese is just wrong. It's like calling all Kinh Vietnamese's ancestor Chinese. Because we both got assimilated into the Han Chinese population. But the thing is, the Tran clan and Kinh Vietnamese both successfully "escaped" from China (Dai Co Viet declared its own independence while the Trans just casually migrated to Dai Viet not long after).
Vietnam never surrendered to any enemy, the Mongols were greatly destroyed at the 2nd and 3rd invasions, in my hometown there were places as high as the hills, which were the burial pits. Mongolian army was killed in battle. In the 2nd and 3rd time Prince mongorila had to get into a copper tube to keep his life
@@kimjongunchien5652 vietnam was rule by china four times ,one time over 1000 year,japanese rule ,france rule for a few decades and usa bomb it for 20 years
In the second invasion, the Yuan general Sogetu did not die in the land of Champa. He was actually killed in the battle of Hàm Tử by the army of Trần dynasty led by genaral Trần Nhật Duật.
@@shovuthmen5478 Because three times of invasion were enough, Đại Việt did not want a fourth invasion. Our ancestors' goal was protecting our land, our independence, protecting our people' life.
@@shovuthmen5478 What is your defintion of "Winning"? Is that "killing all your enemies" or "A total win without any negotiation"? Vietnam is a small and peaceful country, we don't want and don't need wars, we just want to teach the invaders: "If you dare lay a hand on our mother land and our independence, you will be crushed no matter how big you are."
There is an error at 9:47. The voiced line is correct about "Trần Ích Tắc", but the "Trần Thánh Tông - 2nd Emperor of Trần" on the screen is completely wrong.
Actually the majority of the ancient vietnam usually act as an ally, an vassal to china dynasty, but always independent. Kick them off then pay tribute is always a good solution because in the paper, Viet is somehow surrender which let china know that Dai Viet will stay low, if they dont touch them. China dont have a reason to act immediately as revenge and will deal with Viet later, which can buy them time. Until the china dynasty fall. The cycle repeat.
Awesome channel, great job. Beautifully done animations and interesting script. Please use more titles when you talk about people, armies etc because for me as a westerner it's hard to follow and keep in memory who is who.
I worked with 2 Vietnamese girls once, one named, Dao Bui (who was a natural beauty😍) and Ngoc Ma, who I'm guessing was a descendant of the Mongols, short and stocky. I'm glad I found your channel, I'm actually learning quite a lot thank you... Vietnamese girls are divine btw 😊😍
Well, Ming invaders did a efficient job of murdering a large portion of old Viet culture so Le dynasty had to adopt even more Chinese culture to fill in the blanks as nobody know the old custom anymore.
Đại Việt conquered Champa centuries afterward. Chăm and Việt are 2 different ethnics the Việt state conquered, distroyed and assilated ethnic chăm. We are conqueror not unifier. Thus the invasions of Đại Việt and Champa were 2 different campaigns.
@@cudanmang_theog the Cham was just simply raiding Đại Việt not conquering, they captured Thăng Long and left. They won a few battles but lost the whole war eventually. In the next few decades Đại Việt gradually expand southwards and kingdom of Champa was destroyed for good
I've seen another video about this war and u left out many other details. u left out the damages the viets did to the Mongol army. u left out how they captured a Mongol general then freed him to a tampered ship so he sunk while sailing home lol. the viets where str8 gangsta
Mongol failed their objective, therefore they lost while Dai Viet successfully defended the country 3 times. I don’t see the confusion here. The tribute was only to rebuild friendship and trading. They did this many time in the past, before this.
did they win? yeah IMHO a vietnamese victory because they did not need to accept the terms. but to me surprising was to learn how often the vietnamese in history were really able to beat a vastly superior foe
According to historians, known as the most violent barbarians in human history, the Mongols had been fully responsible for displacing the world populations and changing the face of human history through their widespread bloody massacres. Every inch on earth the Mongols passed, was greased with human fat and soaked with human blood. Scholars regard the Mongol conquest as one of the deadliest invasions in human history. In fact, it took Iran almost a century to recover its original peak population prior to the Mongols' invasion. Even the deadliest winters in Russia could not deter the Mongols from invading Moscow and Kiev. After their successful conquest of the Great Russia, the Mongols again repeated the great success with their powerful speed and maneuverability in addition to their lethal horsebows in the Battle of Legnica in 1241 known as the Battle of Liegnitz in Poland. The mighty Mongol army totally crushed the combined defending forces of European fighters, twice its size. The decisive victories in Poland and Hungary have become some of the most celebrated episodes in the Mongols world conquest, which showed the effectiveness of the Mongol war machine. Suffering the same fate as the European countries, West Asian countries including Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey one by one submitted to the powerful Mongol army. Sadly, China was not an exception. The Chinese Empire said to the mighty Mongol Empire, "Our Empire is as vast as the sea, yours is but a handful of sand." The Chinese had paid a deadly price for their arrogance they would never forget. The mighty Mongol army creatively went around the Great Wall of China, easily got inside and savagely massacred all the Chinese people, leaving a mountain of human skulls/bones outside the Great Wall that could be visible from miles away for years. According to historians, “Body [of the Chinese prisoners] stacked ‘like rotten logs’ littered the ground for more than 30 miles.” The mighty Mongol army led by the bloodthirsty commander Subedei continued to brutally burn, pillage, rape, and murder all the populations of 90 Chinese cities for over 6 months. As a result, unable to protect the Chinese people from the Mongols' attack, China's Great Wall has sadly become a historic symbol of China's eternal shame and failure. Finally, the mighty Mongol army conquered all of China in 1279 after Western Xia Dynasty, Dali Kingdom, Jin Dynasty and Song Dynasty all one by one shamefully surrendered to the Mongols. In less than 80 years, the unbeatable Mongol Empire successfully conquered half of the known world from West to East, including all of China. Continuing the ambitious dream of conquering the entire world, Kublai Khan immediately started the southward expansion where a small country known as Dai Viet (currently Vietnam) at the time was his first target. However, totally failing to achieve the great successes as seen earlier in the century, the unbeatable Mongol army met its match. In spite of having been fully equipped with thousands of well-armed warships, the mighty Mongol army of over 500,000 well-trained troops, led by the most brilliant and successful military commanders of all time with the greatest military strategy of Sun Tzu, was totally bitterly defeated, not once but three times (1258, 1285, and 1288) by the Vietnamese; and the decisive victory of the Vietnamese army led by Vietnamese Prince Tran Quoc Tuan against the invading mighty Mongol army in the bloody battle at the Bach Dang River in 1288 eventually brought an end to the Mongols invasion of Dai Viet as well as their ambitious dream of conquering the entire world. If having learned that the resilient Vietnamese people had successfully kicked out all of the 7 powerful Chinese dynasties (Qin, Dong Wu, Han, Song, Ming, Yuan, Qing) with their utterly failed attempts to assimilate the Vietnamese after the 1,000-year Chinese domination, the Mongol Empire would have never even thought of invading Vietnam.
Looking at more than 4000 years of history, the total time Vietnamese people lived in peace and independence was only about 700 years. If printing a list (with the size of 14) only including the names of wars involving Vietnamese people, we will need 3 sheets of A4 paper (equivalent to 6 sides of paper). You know, when we do something over and over again, we become an expert by itself.
When you are a tiny country surrounded by giants for thousands of years, that means that you either got the it all figured out, or you got balls of steel. Vietnam has both and awesome pho to boot!
"Asgard is not a place; never was. ... Asgard is where our people stand."_Odin, Thor:Ragnarok_ Now we know Odin had good grades at History back when he went to Asgardian School
For the long time, Dai Viet monarch granted the title King by the Imperial Chinese , but we call our monarch Emperor and didn't give a f to the North Imperial
Historically Mongols are plains peoples of the steppe and they are great light cavalries ...but when they enter Viet Nam the Viet starts blasting “welcome to the jungles!!! We got fun and games” by guns n roses.
Trong thời gian 1000 năm đấy có hàng chục cuộc nổi dậy của người Việt để đòi lại độc lập và đỉnh điểm với nhà nam hán năm 938 của Ngô Quyền và trước đó là năm 40 khởi nghĩa của 2 bà Trưng với nhà Đông Hán và cuộc khởi nghĩa của vua Mai Hắc Đế chống lại sự xâm lược của nhà đường đầu thế kỷ thứ 8 .
Can you make a video about Lý Long Tường (李龍祥/이용상 / Yi Yong-sang) pls ? I want to know about his journey (Dai Viet -> Goryeo) and the another Mongol invasions of Goryeo at that time.
No, that is definitely not the right way. To be fair vietnamese is kinda hard for western people. I rather he butcher their name because he make vietnamese sound like chinese. Which is a no no for vietnam
Thực tế ra địa hình phía bắc việt nam rất phức tạp.ko thể sử dụng chiến thuật dàn người đánh phủ đầu của quân Nguyên. Có thể đánh bại nhà tống vì có đồng bằng rộng lớn. Còn ở phía bắc việt nam có địa hình đồi núi.phần đồng bằng phía đông nam thì có nhiều con sông. Nếu dùng kế sách thì quân Nguyên sẽ bị thiệt hại. Nhưng ở Việt Nam thời điểm đó có rất nhiều người tài . Quân Nguyên thua tướng tài là đúng. Trong một trận chiến tài năng của người lãnh đạo chiếm 50% xác xuất chiến thắng
I am a Vietnamese, we was taught that Vietnam was unified by then (the Mongol invasion) under the rule of Trần dynasty and yes, our trees were talking back then too =))
At 9:30. Sugetu aka Toa Do did not die in Champa. He went deep into south Vietnam and conquered vast land of Nghe An- Thanh Hoa, Almost half of Vietnam at that time. He was to together with Orma ( O ma Nhi) hunted for the Viet king and did not success. He did not know that Toyan ( Thoat Hoa) withdrew from the North. So the King come back from the north front line and fight him. He ran toward the sea and beheaded in a fight. ( Some said he ambushed and killed by arrow first). Vietnam king had so much respect for him so he took off he clothe to cover the head and even said Be this guy if you guys want to serve me. Omar was captured and released but drowned since his ship was intentionally sinked by the king. Omar offended the kings family cemetery and killed many innocent.
Even Vietnam Old National Declaration was wrong about it. Nguyen Trai said Sugetu was captured alive at Ham Tu Gate. About 30 km from Thang Long HaNoi. Toa Đô ký cầm ư Hàm Tử quan, Ô Mã hựu ế ư Bạch Đằng hải.
Two rules
1. Do not invade Russia unless you are Mongols.
2. Do not invade Vietnam even if you are Mongols.
There are no problem to invade Russia, it have been done successfully by Sweden, Poland and Germany etc. What is true do NOT invade Russia if Russia have strong allies that is hostile toward you.
@@kirgan1000 Considering what ended up happening to Sweden, Poland, and Germany, I'd hesitate to call those attempts successes...
rule number 1: invade Russia while the winter havenot yet comes
They just try it 03 time and ... they just tactical retreat .
No one Was Defeated By Russian Winter all who lost (Charles XII,Napoleon and Hitler )Were simply unprepared .Or were simply Idiots like Hitler (His officers advising him to Start Civil War in Russia like in WW1 with Lenin .But He Refuse this)Chalres was like :My army dont need Supplies wee,And Napoleon dont want Defeat Tsar he Want make him his ally .( Napoleon say than Real centre of Russia is Moscow and if They lost it then Tsar Must Surrender .It was simply wishfull thinking who leads to defeat )He can defeat Russia simply Taking Petersburg and saying than Russia lost Belarus,and Ukraine .And Russia cannot oposse this .If Tsar Escape on Siberia . its dont matter becouse Russian army cannot defeat Bonaparte so he can force them to anything and if they oppose he can loot Petersburg. back on Ukraine and Belarus For Winter .and if Russia not aggred on peace terms then More looting until they aggree. But Bonaparte dont understand Russia and dont listen people who understand.
I want you guys to know that as an English speaker interested in Asian history to know that this channel is a dream. You guys produce great content and as long as you stick with it, one day the youtube algorithm will bless you. Thank you for bringing all these stories to the west!
Vietnam history 1075-1077.
Battle between Ly dynasty (Đai Viet - Vietnam) and Song dynasty (China).
3 Episodes Animation movie have Engsub:
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it already does, the algorithm
Im here from the algorithm
Throughout world history it’s recorded that Vietnamese trees talk
"Hold my Pho, while I take care of these invaders"
@@doccholo905 said that palm tree to the left
"Hold my banh chung"
Someone in 1968.
Or hold my shit cuz i shit in the trees too =))
I searched up this "Vietnamese trees talk" meme to see what are referring to. I thought the meme was talking about the ancient vietnamese war with the chinese 1000 years earlier.
But internet told me the meme is about american vietnamese war.
Anyway back in the old days, they rally the people against the chinese by etching certain text onto tree leaves and distributed the leaves in the river. As people found the leaves down stream, people thought the it was heaven will that the chinese will lose the war, thus everyone stood up and fight, and they won. That was the first time that Vietnamese tree talks.
Vietnam defeated Mongolia, France, Japan, USA, China. So amazing
2020 vietnam mask Defeated coronavirus ?
He made it very clear that mongol empire were divded into 4 and wasnt helping each other and also using nonmongol troops to vietnam like chinese
@@bossman9758 Yo they sent over 300k chads to kill us bro
Vietnam wins but loses at same time
@@DW-op7ly you mean lose economically ?
some little tidbit:
1. 10:46 it actually not that simple. The supply fleet was escorted by a powerful fleet that moved ahead to "clean way".. the Vietnamese general in charge of that area, Trần Khánh Dư, attacked that fleet, but he quickly ran away and retreated to his safe haven.. The escort fleet, thinking that they ruled the wave now, speed up to support the land army, leaving the slower supply ship behind - and then Trần Khánh Dư moved out with his entire force and successfully mauled the important supply fleet..
2. due to the somewhat predictable strategy of the Mongol, Trần Quốc Tuấn is actually quite confident about his victory chance in the 3rd war, saying something along the line of "we get them twice, we will surely get them the 3rd time".
3. Trần Quốc Tuấn is actually a big claimant to the throne, since his father Prince Trần Liễu is actually the older brother of King Trần Thái Tông.. despite being older, Trần Liễu got skipped over since he is too old to be manipulated by the "King-maker" Trần Thủ Độ, and his wife got take away to marry his brother the king (since the queen is infertile, while Liễu's wife already gave birth to a boy before).. Liễu actually urged his son (Quốc Tuấn) to take back the throne, but Quốc Tuấn never did.. people tend to use this story as an example of Trần Quốc Tuấn's loyalty, but it's also a big gesture of trust for the Trần king to actually put such a dangerous claimant to the position of Commander in Chief..
4. according to Vietnamese source, Toghan, after being wounded by the arrow, was too weak to ride (and too scare) that he told his men to carry him back home in a bronze tube..
so detailed, buddy!
There are a debate that Trần Khánh Dư actually send a fleet made mostly from small ships to engage at the first time and let them be killed completely. The victory against that fleet make Yuan Navy though that they have annihilate Dai Viet navy but in fact the bulk of entire navy, including warship still in Vân Đồn. When the warships left the logistics fleet behind, entire main force attack at once and destroy the logistics fleet. This debate based on records that Trần Khánh Dư like to use sacrifice tactic, let enemy killed army made from low-quality troops like conscripted farmers to lure enemy into illusion and off-guard, then strike a decisive battle with his well-trained army. His point of view on this tactic lead so much people hate him and they plotted against him, fired him from the court and he has to sell coals for a long time between the second and third invasion.
Actually after the first defeat, the court want to chain him to Thang Long for trials but he send a letter guarantee that he will destroy all logistics ships, and luckily he can do that so the sentence was lifted.
Nice bro, nicesu nicesu
I remember laughing with my friends when we studied the forth one
@@superspies32 Wow, that's so dark
Every countries: losing citadal is losing country
Vietnam: we don’t do that here!!
We call it tactical retreat
Russia: write that down, Write that down!
@@unserkatzenland8884 hahaha you cracked me up
Our real captital of vietnam in jungle . Ok do you want fight with viet nam in jungle ?
@@luankhoanguyen4108 Tây Sơn flashbacks. Literally operate in the jungle.
Vietnamese body built maybe small but they fight everybody and they battle you out till the end. They make you remember the horror of these battles for many generations to come.
Vietnamese knows the terrain and are born in the climate. Asides from the tactical they used
If you really believe that muscles are all that matter in a war, then you would be a terrible general and your all soldiers would be butchered. We don’t need to fight with our muscles because booby traps, snake traps, and all beautiful female spies do their job really well
Mongols: At least we took Hanoi.
USA: At least we were smart enough to call it quits after the first attempt.
It was called Thanh Long
“Thăng Long”!
Not Thanh Long
Thanh Long wtf ??? Learn history again kid
@@phomaiqok i misspell it,
I didn't check it because it was long ago, ok?
No other people does guerrilla warfare better than the Viets.
True
uhmm, viets guerilla tactics during war with USA was based mostly on Indonesia guerilla strategies during independence war
@@laosi4278 Evidence?
@@laosi4278 Don't claiming :)))
@@laosi4278 Ask Tran Hung Dao, he use it a thousand year ago, just dont know by that time. Did Indonesia establish.
Invaders: *Defeat the capital of Đại Việt*
Đại Việt: *Reveal their true capital was the jungle the whole time*
‘’Tree nation’’
Winning or losing is defined by judging if the original objective is achieved. In this case, the original goal of the Mongols weren't to get tribute from Dai Viet but to subjugate her, annex the whole country and put her fully under direct Mongol rule like they did with China. They failed to meet that goal, so they've lost!
As for the paying tribute part, that's only a face-saving measure to soothe their ego, make them feel good with their loss, and so doesn't mean much and Dai Viet also didn't actually fulfill the obligations! So at the end, the Mongols failed on that face-saving measure too! They got really mad so they planned a fourth invasion but the Yuan disintegrated before that could happen.
Agreed re objectives of invasion.
People can debate about if the Mongols achieve there goals in the end, at least many can agree although they won against there enemy in open battlefield, the Mongols cannot hole Dai Viet or Champa do to enemy use of guerrilla tactics and short of supplies. In the end they have to left & avoid getting wipeout. Dai Viet & Champa although still pay tribute to keep the Mongols from any more Invasion, and recognize them as a powerful forces, they still have there independent & rule there own kingdom overall ... and survived against Mongols army invasion is quite an achievement that only fews kingdom did.
( Althought im more impressed of how India fought the Mongols head-on & won in some openfield battle, while others use more guerrilla tactics, successful ambush or naval combat ... and Japan has bad weather on there side ) XD
Mongols were excellent conquerors, but terrible rulers. Their great empire disintegrates just as fast as they conquer.
@@mr.bluefox3511, Engaging in open battle or using guerilla tactics are only ways to fight wars and the smart ones use whichever works for them. The Mongols liked to engage in open battle because they had the advantage in doing so while Viets and Chams liked to ambush because that's their advantage! It's just so dumb to say that somehow it's more impressive when you deliberately handicap yourself by choosing to play your enemy's game! Smart humans fight with their brain! And tactics alone can't guarantee victory. It depends on the person who employs them! How many countries have actually won against the Mongols using guerilla tactics?! So again, it's dumb to say Dai Viet and Champa won because they used guerilla tactics! And it actually wasn't all guerilla tactics that brought Dai Viet victory!
The Mongols did successfully occupy parts of India for decades. If India was small in land and number like Dai Viet or Champa, the story would have been different. I'm not impressed.
You talk as if Dai Viet and Champa were lucky to win because they have some advantages! The short of supplies excuse is actually very lame because if you look at the map, Hanoi is only about 70km from the border with China and the flat land stretches half that distance. They only made up that excuse so they don't look too pathetic in their history book! LOL!
@@diehardcat jeez come down men, i don't mean to stress you out like that. It's just i my own "small & short" opinion of everything happened in the past.
Im a sucker for History myself, especially about everything that related to War, like how logistics work, the strength & weakness between 2 combatant or 2 Army, the Politicic, the gap in technology & science, ect ... And i am a Vietnamese, i understood Guerrilla tactics & it effectiveness that my people back then, and every around the world did in the past very well.
Although i and Vietnamese people are proud of defending against 3 Mongol invasion in the past, im also want to have i open minded views & somewhat unbiased point-of-view of everything else happened around it. And the last question about "did 2 side both really win in the end" also interested me, but not too important (for me) to debate with everyone else. We all did learned what the video want to show anyway.
I could have when more details about my old comment above, about why it was important that Dai Viet & Champa maintain there independent, or why i am more impressed with Indian Cavalry-forces army fought with Mongol in some openfield battle. But it would also be a massive amounts of information in a simple comment, that i did so many time in the past ... and right now. I believe this is why you respond to me, my comments was short of Intel & easily lead to misunderstood.
Although, i would acknowledge your opinion is good & informal. Which i really agreed & cannot denied. Other than the tone of your words, your opinion is just more good information for this comment-section.
Tbh the part about luring the enemy ships into the iron tip spikes wasn’t that simple as you said in this video since you have to time it perfectly; not too early so the enemy can just pass through the spikes unharmed nor too late that they can spot the spikes and avoid the trap. The planning and the execution were so flawless that this tactic had become legendary in Vietnam history.
I think we could infer that it was not as simple as it sounded in his 5 second explanation, but thanks for the clarification anyway.
@@chaikien2081 go learn history
We did it twice pretty we would have been able to do it a third time
@@chaikien2081 , yeah, the Mongol inexperience with naval operations damned the Japanese invasion to failure, even if it terminally damaged the then Hojo shogunate, and led to a decline of Japan as a major regional power for 2 centuries.
@@chaikien2081 lmao chinese history is absolutely crooked, how can you claim that everything they told you is true 🤣 chinese history is written by chinese kings/emperors because they wanted to be the good guy after invading and assimilating the entire world, go read a book about Viet and China relationships after 5000 years of sharing a border, you will see why we rather trust the Champa than you Chinese, because every 50 years you Chinese would send a giant army down south to “collect taxes” and “civilize” us so we all consider you “northern invaders” the same. Go read some real books and learn English properly.
I like how the DaiViet uses historical records and improvise natural condition as their strength in the assymetrical warfare.
More than that, acknowledging victory not with boastfullness but with praises to the enemy.
Isnt that how you fight in an inferior possistion
Actually, Võ Nguyên Giáp, First 4 stars general of Vietnam People's Army is a history teacher. He studied alot about history of war in the world, he is even fan of Napoleon and ironically use his tactics to defeat French: Using artilleries on unexpected positions.
@@LongVu-lh9el most interesting.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw Yeah, for me Ho Chi Minh trail is one of the most complicate logistic system in the world in that time. Those supply road is a combination of spirit, technology and intelligence. From just a small trail, even some place you must to cross the jungle and mountain without any sight of human to many roads that can feed whole army of hundreds thousands men, tanks, trucks and military equipments,food, medical, oil, gas, weapons, etc effectively under enemy bombs. Unit 559, the unit which have responsibility for Ho Chi Minh trail alone have more than 100.000 men and women. More than any single military unit North Vietnam have this time.
@@dean_l33 no it's how your younger brother makes hot love to your wife and still maintains a healthy sibling relationship with you.
Pre-historic Vietnam was home to some of the world's earliest civilizations, making the Vietnamese, one of the world's first peoples who had practiced agriculture. With an intriguing history of achieving what others deem impossible, Vietnam is a country like no other. The New York Times wrote, "Vietnam has a history of resisting the world’s great powers. It threw out the French after almost a century of colonization and then handed the United States a humiliating defeat. That same spirit has emerged in its war of wills, this time over China’s attempts to project its growing power closer to Vietnam’s shores." The deadly anti-China riots in Vietnam in 2014 as the result of China's illegal placement of its oil rig in Vietnam's waters, drove more than 40,000 Chinese nationals back to their mainland China. The history of Vietnam’s formidable people and defenses dated well before the Vietnam War and even before the Mongol invasion of Vietnam in 13th century. In fact, it dated back to the war against the Chinese invasion of Vietnam in 300 BC. However, the famous battles of the Vietnamese army against the mighty Mongol Empire have become the most celebrated episode in the history of Vietnam. Scholars regard the Mongol conquest as one of the deadliest invasions in human history. The unbeatable Mongol army had conquered half of the known world, but eventually given itself up to a small country named Dai Viet (currently Vietnam)! In less than 80 years, the Mongol Empire encompassed entire land from the Pacific Ocean to the Danube River. After having successfully conquered Eastern and Central Europe, Middle East, Central Asia, Great Russia, all of China in the 13th century, the powerful Mongol Empire immediately started their southward expansion in Southeast Asia where it finally met its match. Even China was agonizingly defeated and completely conquered by the mighty Mongol army, which by contrast was bitterly defeated 3 times by the resilient Vietnamese. The decisive victory of the Vietnamese army over the invading mighty Mongol army in the bloody battle at the Bach Dang River in 1288 eventually brought an end to the Mongols' invasion of Dai Viet (currently Vietnam) as well as their dream of conquering the entire world. If the Mongol Empire had learned that the Chinese Empires before them had been bitterly kicked out of Vietnam after their 10 centuries of occupation while completely failing to assimilate the Vietnamese, the mighty Mongol Empire would have never even thought of invading Vietnam.
Vietnam wasn't the last place invaded by the mongols, it merely stopped their land grabs on the mainland south. They still attacked Java afterwards. also 10 centuries of rule is longer than many empires have ever existed. Vietnam is a relatively new state like how Russia is now. At least with it's current Regime.
The Vietnamese are smart as they invaded Cambodia and has been raping it over the past 40 yrs
china invaded succeed on mongolia and vietnam under han dynasty when han defeated xiongnu in mongolia and luo yue in vietnam
Oldest bs in the world
@@cudanmang_theog I see u every where hating on the Vietnamese. Why? U even have Vietnamese name. Weird smh
A M B U S H
Ah, yes, the most Vietnam-ish tactic ever
Biết được đường đi nước bước của quân địch đã là đẳng cấp khác rồi 😌
it smart tactic
It was all good until the rice fields speak Vietnamese 😂
@@magicplayer84 actually, we removed all the rice so the enemy can't tell which is a rice field and which is a field
@@khoaphan202 of cos.. Nobody would leave free meal for the enemies..
But that is how the joke goes.
Of course Dai Viet won. You can't say someone won a war by gaining tributes. Those tributes value means nothing to a country you own and have control over. If Mongol succeeded taken over Dai Viet back then, the amount of goods is billions time better than those tributes Dai Viet sent over. The value of keeping your own country free and independent is priceless, I have to mention again, PRICELESS. The act of sending tributes back then is more of a friendship act, an act to maintain normal trades between countries. Heck, if Dai Viet back then just didn't send tribute at all to Mongol because let's say they just don't want to, DARE the Mongolians to ever step a foot back again to Dai Viet land. Trading, economic and peace value just greater than those tributes. 3 times. Remember not only once but 3 times they kicked Mongol's ass. Don't "f" with the Vietnamese. I didn't say it. History did!
A tribute system is just another word for trade during the time. So the vassal states would send tribute to Chinese empires while receiving "gifts" of equal value. Such relationship is not only between Vietnam and China. This is recorded in Chinese historical records as well. Vassalage is a way Chinese emperors used to glorify themselves over the existence of independent unconquerable or unmanageable land parts under Chinese geographical and cultural range of influence. So it's a hard but true fact for Chinese nationalists that this time the Yuan lost.
Vietnam's objective was to pacify the Mongols, not to conquer them; therefore, they did in fact succeeded in doing so. From that perspective, Vietnam won.
3 times !!!
@@raremeat-iloveit6488 getting invaded again doesn't make it a victory. only the 3rd time really stuck.
@@raremeat-iloveit6488 china even invaded succeed on mongolia under han dynasty
@@dk.magic.mobile108 back then Under the Han dynasty the mongol wasnt strong. the mighty mongol was later on when they destroyed Song dysnasty
He made it very clear that mongol empire were divded into 4 and wasnt helping each other and also using nonmongol troops to vietnam like chinese
The river trap thing is genius. I’m gonna give it to dai. They got better terms and destroyed their bosses fleet.
@Thái Nguyễn HQ that’s why it’s name name Great Viet in AoC2
Lol
Bach Dang always work
It has been used for very long time against Chinese, first records was Ngo Quyen used that to release Vietnam from China after be annexed 1000 years ago, then on the first Dai Viet - Song war that trap was used again (bonus: the Song was so weak so that at the second time when they try to annex Dai Viet to increase their voice against nearly countries - which force Song Emperor to tribute - they were invaded by Vietnamese lead by Lý Thường Kiệt to destroy all preparations. With logistics supports at the border be destroyed, Song emperor had to move army from the north for the invasion, which cost a lot of money and time and the invasion in total was not well-prepare, lead to the failure.)
The question of this battle is the REAL terrain of Bach Dang river at that time, the terrain changed so much so that many of pikes established for this battle has been excavated deeply on land nowadays (the newest just be found near the end of 2020, several kilometers from Bach Dang river bank). This is not the strange thing in Vietnam, Hoi An, one famous trading center of Japanese during Trinh-Nguyen civil war now deeply on land, several kilometers from the beach even though draw pictures from Japanese and Portuguese shows Hoi An located right at the beach during that era, Galleon ships can come close to trade.
@@thaiinh3988 Str8 facts
Vietnam never surrendered to any enemy, the Mongols were greatly destroyed at the 2nd and 3rd invasions, in my hometown there were places as high as the hills, which were the burial pits. Mongolian army was killed in battle. In the 2nd and 3rd time Prince mongorila had to get into a copper tube to keep his life
Love the arts you used to portrait the Vietnamese. Pretty accurate.
Not really.. I think the Mongol trying to invade China by sea..😂😂🙌
VN history is as rich and fascinating as those of Korea, Japan, Majapahit, etc yet very few talented content creaters have heard of it.
This is absolutely the best video on VN history I've ever seen. You even delve into the nuance of the tributary system and the emperor/king titles used by the mornarchs. This video has my unreserved praise.
exactly, now people in america, canada, australia and europe can finally understand and learn this story, before only very few vietnamese language videos covered it, much respect!
@@Dominicn123 we have many many vietnamese video ab this, honestly
if i’m correct, this is lowkey chinese propaganda because no sources speak of the song allied with Dai Viet
Its such a cool story - its sad it isnt more well known.
@@solocanaanite4655 Yeah
Dai Viet and Champa definitely won. Their goal was to maintain independence from the Mongols, which they did. The Mongols, on the other hand, wanted to conquer Dai Viet and Champa, and they failed to do. Therefore, the Mongols lost the war.
So here's the promised video on the Mongol invasion of Vietnam. If there's something you want me to cover, just suggest it in comment section.
Any plan on covering Emperor Wu of Han?
Could you please cover the different nomadic peoples who have inhabited Mongolia? They had diverse genetic makeups, cultures and ways of life yet we tend to lump them together as "Mongols"
Yeah, but I'm still thinking for a way to organise all the information.
Yeah, that is definitely something I am going to cover in the future.
@@CoolHistoryBros Can you also do about the Tay Son Dynasty? Especially the Tay Son Rebellion and how they defeat both the Siam and the Qing?
It’s all relative. The Mongols defeated and conquered many big and strong countries including the giant neighboring China yet was defeated 3 times by Viets. That in itself is a big military victory for the brave Viets. Letting the powerful Mongols save face by paying them off at the end is a smart political move by the Viets. A tied match between a 100-lb guy and a 800-lb pro fighter is definitely a big win for the brave and smart underdog. It’s all relative.
some fixes: at 9:53 it's Trần Ích Tắc, not Trần Thánh Tông.
also, Sogetu was ordered to leave Champa and head to Dai Viet to rendezvous with Toghan's force. But when he came, Toghan had already left. Sogetu was left behind and killed at Hàm Tử pass.
So for who's the winner: I'd say it's the Đại Việt and the Champa. You can argue that the Mongol/Yuan won the war due to Đại Việt and Champa established their tributary to the Yuan. But in fact, it was just a diplomatic move since both knew that their countries had been ravaged by wars and the people needed to recover. The tributary was just a small price for long-term peace for their countries.
About the Mongols/Yuan, their objective was to conquer Đai Việt and Champa and used those lands as their pivot to expand all over Southeast Asia, but they were not able to make it. They did make more invasions to Java in 1293, which was to no avail. Kublai wanted another invasion, but he died in 1294.
Anyways, Great vids.
Moral of the story: DO NOT MESS WITH VIETNAM
It has been making superpowers cry for millennia.
They set out to conquer dai viet with a huge army and many commanders, but ended up getting starved and slaughtered and ended up retreating. In what world does that count as a win???? That's called a massive loss, not once, not twice, three times in a row. It's not a tie.
Dau Viet (and Champa too) was able stop the Mongolians from occupying their country, so they are the true victor.
beat the crap out of the bully and then threw some money into his face, and the bully just accepted the money and left.
that's not just a win. it's a complete humiliation to kublai.
The embodiment of "I'm gonna pay you X to fuck off" meme.
I wouldnt call those 3 invades from Mongol a win. When I play total war three kingdoms, I spend 10k gold to invade other country. I lost, but hey that country paid me like 5k gold as a tribute. Was that a win? No.
Its like a slap in my face. Mongols lost like 500.000-1000.000 men in Vietnam, for some gold? Yea. That doesnt sound like a win to me.
By Mongol accounts they didn't count it as a win either. Kublai lost a son during this campaign and barred another from returning to the homeland.
Japan: *uses the storm to defeat Mongol*
Vietnam: -We don't do that here.
Use water river
Hihi. Hay ..c
Why relies on storms when you can relies on sharpen trees dunk in water?
Well, I wouldn’t say the Japanese “used” the storm or “kamikaze”( divine wind ) to disperse the Mongol fleets but in fact Japan was saved and protected multiple times by “kamikaze” which most of Japanese people back then believed that was an act of god saving them from the Mongol invasions. As you may know, this term later on refers to the suicide attacks of Japanese military aviators during the WW2.
Vietnam, on the other hand, was saved from their great leaders and historical wisdom over a long period of time resisting against foreign invaders.
Use chicken shit traps:)))
I love how you always use a terrain map, because terrain is VERY important, in war or anything.
Do you understand what it means to take less and more enemies? Because the Vietnamese understood the strengths and weaknesses of the Mongols very well, they knew that if they were to confront an army that was skilled and many times larger, they would suffer a lot of losses, and they realized that the Mongols often The Vietnamese did not bring much food when fighting, so the Vietnamese applied the "garden without a house" tactic, that is, burned all the food and moved the people into the deep forest, waiting for the enemy to plunder nothing. and lack of food, the spirit of depression will organize decisive battles, from which victory will be achieved, that is the military art of Vietnam, the country has won thousands of huge enemies throughout. Your history is not as simple as you think. Thanks!
Lol who say do u know French has conquer Nguyen in 18 century
exactly!
its called the scorched earth strategy, "garden without a house" is clumsily google-translated from the vietnamese history textbooks
I must say I'm impressed by your video.
Finally there is a UA-camrs that drew a (fairly accurate) version of our clothes at that time.
Most of the foreign UA-camrs and Vietnamese UA-camrs always use ridiculous imaginative clothes which have no historical accuracy at all. Plus you also mentioned our very important policy of "Emperor inside, King outside", I love that!
No, his narrative is wrong. Tran Hung Dao isnt Tran Quoc Toan
@@janetngantran Trần Hưng Đạo is Trần Quốc Tuấn
@@nhienleminhhue6605 okay I might have heard it wrong. I heard he said Tran Quoc Toan.
Những video về Lịch sử Việt Nam luôn thu hút những người Việt đến đây
Search " She's EXPOSING the truth in China, and they're furious " on YT.
Eye opening and insightful...
You actually did it! Thanks, and it just so happens I just finished listening to a podcast about the Khmer empire so this is a neat video to follow up on.
Fun fact, the same rivier spike tatics was used not twice, but three times and all won; in the same river. Talking about learning history.
Vietnam has a history of fighting against big country. We are small and our resources are limited but our heart never surrender.
as per our tradition: "we'd rather die standing than live kneeling"
thà chết đứng còn hơn sống quỳ, dù có thế nào cũng nhất quyết không làm nô lệ cho kẻ khác
Before arguing anything, i just wanna say: as a Vietnamese, i love and appreciate your interest in my country's history
Actually, the Mongol prepared the 4th, 5th and even the 6th time to invade Dai Viet again but those had been canceled so you cannot say that the Mongol won.
Yeah, because they also lost to a Viet Dynasty in Korea (Cao Ly at a time.) aka remnants of the Ly Dynasty which was led by Ly Long Tuong. LOL
vietnam agree to pay tribute to Khan to avoid lost their peoples
@@shovuthmen5478 Kinda like pity tribute since Vietnamese care about actual ppl then artificial tribute. In fact, it proved to be more profitable in the long run. Though they suffered heavy lost again from another Viet dynasty.
@@shovuthmen5478 I mean, a little tribute to avoid a war against an enemy at its height. Just for context, around this time is when the territory of the Mongolian stretch from northern Viet Nam all the way to land near today’s Moscow. Seem pretty reasonable.
He didn't say the mongo won,
He was more agree that mongo lost
I am loving your channel, I took a Japanese and Mongol history classes in college and these help me understand more and peak my interest in again history more
Kinda like the Sino Viet War of 1979. The PRC had two objectives. Staring down the Soviets who were supporting Vietnam, and evicting Vietnam from Cambodia.
China claimed they won since they invaded Vietnam and were in striking range of Hanoi before retreating. It also showed the USSR was not about to go to war over Vietnam.
Vietnam claimed victory as their main army was in Cambodia, and remained there till the 90s while China retreated after sufferinh frankly embarrassing casualties.
Yes, I do
They not even got anywhere near Hanoi to begin with. They were wrecked by local militia and armed police,when the Vietnamese Main Forces-the legendary,battle harderned 2nd Corps arives,the PLA retreated.
Yes both sides were head butting each other like stubborn mules. Soviets did not came while Chinese were losing more men than they could expect. Cambodia wasn't relieved but enough to prevent a takeover.
Of course, anybody can claim anything but one must look at the claims to see if they actually hold any water. China claimed that it successfully proved that the USSR wouldn't help Vietnam in case of a war. That's lame because what China did can't be called a war! It's an insult to any war! China only dared to tickle Vietnam a little and run home really fast before even Vietnam could organize any real response by its main forces, so how can Vietnam or the USSR take China's 'war' seriously to mobilize?! Both countries obviously didn't have time for that Chinese childish tantrum. That stupid action of China can only prove the opposite that China was really scare of the Soviet-Vietnam alliance. It could also only prove that the China-Khmer Rouge alliance was a farce because Vietnam wouldn't budge and had continued to stay in Cambodia for the next 10 years to exterminate every last one of the Khmer Rouge and all China could do was staging a chicken run at the border in three weeks and screaming on the sideline afterwards.
@@picopiku Since when did Vietnam objective was to take over Cambodia? That's only your stupid imagination.
Supplies delivered, armies marched, city pillaged.
'Well, that's a good start.'
*trees start speaking*
It was river, not tree you infect
No , it must be : river start speaking vnese
@@eastlaosempire999 do you mean Yet Kieu?
Great video, dude. You are getting a strong support from Vietnam here.
And today, millions of Indonesians believe that Vietnam learned guerrilla war tactics from them. hahaha
Indos should be grateful and thanking vietnam. Without vietnam, indos would get conquered by the mongols and indonesia would have been deleted off the map
not us, its your war leaders at that time who openly tell the world that they based most of their strategy on a book written by Indonesian war hero about Indonesian war independence
@@laosi4278 Vietnamese people do public. Can you give exact evidence and sources?
@@laosi4278 da fuck? Where u hear this from? Sounds like a lie. Indos trying to get credit from a war they werent even involved in or on the other side.
@@laosi4278 no. The onl foreign material that vietnamese like to read sun tzus art of war book and european history, and even then their relevance to todays war planning and atrategizing is not 100%. And what indonesian war hero? Literally no one has ever heard of indonesia. Anything that pops up in anyones mind about indonesia is muslim culture. Thats about it. Nothing special about indonesia really. Indonesia has not exactly achieved much in the world so how would anyone get any idea from indonesia? Sick of indos thinking that they are superior when theyre really.not.
According to Chinese and Vietnamese accounts, Sogetu had moved from Champa in order to encircled Đại Việt from the south. It was his victories that forced Trần Kiện, a Đại Việt prince, to surrender. Later, however, Sogetu was ambushed and killed by the two Đại Việt emperors.
No original account says that Sogetu was killed by Champa.
@@doanhoangvan5009 When you are killed in the donkey's barn, the donkey is sure to kill you. That's how the Cham think
@@ieptranphuc7167 Actually Sogetu wasn’t kill in Champa at all. At that point he had already moved to Vietnam. The battle of Tây Kết showed Vietnamese forces commanded by the two emperors (interesting, not by Hưng Đạo Vương as usual) ambushed and destroyed Sogetu’s forces.
I love how your maps gives a rough idea of the topography of a partcular area. Very helpful for someone who isn't so familiar with the various physical features of the different regions.
In Vietnamese, we call this a Nguyễn-Nguyên (Nguyen-Yuan) situation ;)
Lol! I should start learning Vietnamese one day.
That’s funny
bruh,
Chào cậu :))
Nguyễn vs Nguyên =)))
Why does it seem to be hard to say who wins here?
I mean, if we put it simple like this:
- Mongol wanted to subjugate Dai Viet and Champa politically and then militarily, but they failed to do so 3 times => So they lost;
- Viet Nam (Dai Viet) and Champa, on the other hand, successfully repelled 3 invasions, solidify their ground => So they won.
Of course, after any war ends, both side will gradually re-establish their relationship, regardless of the degree or conditions. Therefore, even though none was completely destroyed, it does not mean none was winning (or losing for that matter). This is NOT a stalemate!
One thing isn’t correct that Khubilai didn’t win. He refused to accept that his army is destroyed in Dai Viet with more than 1 million deaths(The Great Yue). He prepared the fourth invasion into Dai Viet but it took much time because of the losses is heavy.
He died before the fourth invasion is done and the next leader choose to make peace with Dai Viet.
2:43 WHAT. You're pretty wrong here. In the first invasion, it's true that Mongol captured Dai Viet capital. But they starved there because there's no food for them to steal. Then Dai Viet( Tran Dynasty) waited for 10 days then counter attack by landing from ships to the capital. They Mongol army were weaken by the lack of food could not match. They fled to Dali land that they had conquered, not to attack the Song Dynasty from Dai Viet'land.
I love the way you read Vietnamese sounds as foreigners do. I’ve subscribed you:)))
Lol, Thanks! I am trying to improve everyday.
Got to give it to the Dai Viet for defeating the mongols. The mongols was a strong and destructive force they even conquered China, Russia and most of the Middle East.
This channel is the best channel for learning ancient Asian History.
Trần Quốc Tuấn was a rather fascinating figure. His father, Prince Trần Liễu, whose wife was taken by the emperor Thái Tông(Though it was not the emperor's fault,Trần Thủ Độ was the one should be blamed).Trần Liễu was angry and rebelled and failed ,his life was spared but all his troops were executed. Later ,in his deathbed, Liễu forced Quốc Tuấn to swear to avenge him and become Emperor. As you know Quốc Tuấn didn't even attempt it. After his own death,the people worship him as a deity and he become a patron god of Vietnamese militarians.
The ancestors of the Trần clan, Trần Kinh (陳京 Chén Jīng) migrated from the province of Fujian to Đại Việt during the early 12th century. He settled in Tức Mặc village (now Mỹ Lộc, Nam Định) and lived by fishing.[13][3] His grandson Trần Lý (陳李; 1151 - 1210), became a wealthy landowner in the area.[14][15][4] Trần Lý's grandson, Trần Cảnh later established the Trần dynasty. From Trần Lý onwards, the Trần clan became related to the Lý clan by intermarriages with several royal members of the Royal Lý dynasty.
they were chinese ancestor
@@stanleysmith3706 According to Tran clan's official site (written in Vietnamese), they were one of the Baiyue people living in Minyue (Fuijan nowadays, existed from 334-110 BCE). Baiyue is an umbrella term used by the ancient Chinese to call the southern barbarians in southern modern China, consisting of some linguistic groups like Tai-Kadai, Austroasiatic (arguably one our ancestors), Hmong-Mien,... In 227 BCE, after seeing the conflicts between the ancient Han Chinese and the Baiyue people, Tran Tu Minh (Tran's clan ancestor) migrated southward with many other Baiyue people and became a general under An Duong Vuong, king of Au Lac (ancient Vietnamese kingdom) and fought against Zhao Tou. Fast forward roughly a thousand years, Tran Hoang Nghi (from a branch of the clan) gave birth to a few kids, one of them is Tran Thu Do, who later established the Tran Dynasty.
@@stanleysmith3706 And even if you information was correct then calling their ancestor Chinese is just wrong. It's like calling all Kinh Vietnamese's ancestor Chinese. Because we both got assimilated into the Han Chinese population. But the thing is, the Tran clan and Kinh Vietnamese both successfully "escaped" from China (Dai Co Viet declared its own independence while the Trans just casually migrated to Dai Viet not long after).
@@stanleysmith3706 cười ỉa vãi cả l, cứ cái đéo gì hay ho tốt đẹp là bọn tàu khựa vơ hết về của nó =))
Vietnam never surrendered to any enemy, the Mongols were greatly destroyed at the 2nd and 3rd invasions, in my hometown there were places as high as the hills, which were the burial pits. Mongolian army was killed in battle. In the 2nd and 3rd time Prince mongorila had to get into a copper tube to keep his life
Although the Vietnamese people are small, we are never afraid of the invading enemies, even though they are the most powerful enemies... 🇻🇳👍
My country defeat Mongolian , Japanese , Frank ,Chinese , USA , Cambodia.. My country is best of best... ..j
@@kimjongunchien5652 vietnam was rule by china four times ,one time over 1000 year,japanese rule ,france rule for a few decades and usa bomb it for 20 years
9:49 small mistake here. The title of the person here should be prince Trần Ích Tắc, not emperor Trần Thánh Tông (who did not defect)
Really cool because as a westerner we don't get much of the smaller eastern countries histories.
Not that small tbh.
Linh Bui dai viet was. Very small lol
Bigger than korea and japan before meiji.
Cough*Vietnam war*cough
In the second invasion, the Yuan general Sogetu did not die in the land of Champa. He was actually killed in the battle of Hàm Tử by the army of Trần dynasty led by genaral Trần Nhật Duật.
and later vietnam still pay tribute to Khan
@@shovuthmen5478 Because three times of invasion were enough, Đại Việt did not want a fourth invasion. Our ancestors' goal was protecting our land, our independence, protecting our people' life.
@@andao1508 yes that why Vietnam not won
@@shovuthmen5478 What is your defintion of "Winning"? Is that "killing all your enemies" or "A total win without any negotiation"? Vietnam is a small and peaceful country, we don't want and don't need wars, we just want to teach the invaders: "If you dare lay a hand on our mother land and our independence, you will be crushed no matter how big you are."
@@andao1508 yes that why China control you 1000 years until now
Khan talked to its general: *WHY DID YOU SAID THAT EASY TO CONQUER DAI VIET AND THE CHAM*
There is an error at 9:47. The voiced line is correct about "Trần Ích Tắc", but the "Trần Thánh Tông - 2nd Emperor of Trần" on the screen is completely wrong.
Actually the majority of the ancient vietnam usually act as an ally, an vassal to china dynasty, but always independent. Kick them off then pay tribute is always a good solution because in the paper, Viet is somehow surrender which let china know that Dai Viet will stay low, if they dont touch them. China dont have a reason to act immediately as revenge and will deal with Viet later, which can buy them time. Until the china dynasty fall. The cycle repeat.
Seem like to stop China from harass that is the only option
Awesome channel, great job. Beautifully done animations and interesting script. Please use more titles when you talk about people, armies etc because for me as a westerner it's hard to follow and keep in memory who is who.
Got it!
I worked with 2 Vietnamese girls once, one named, Dao Bui (who was a natural beauty😍) and Ngoc Ma, who I'm guessing was a descendant of the Mongols, short and stocky. I'm glad I found your channel, I'm actually learning quite a lot thank you... Vietnamese girls are divine btw 😊😍
There no descendants of mongol 😂
@@jerryle379 there are , i ve met one in saigon
Dân tộc Mông VN có nguồn gốc từ mông cổ đó.cái tên Ngọc Ma chắc chắn ko phải người kinh.họ nói chính xác đó
What sad is Tran Hung Dao war books, etc. are no longer be found, else it could be a rival to "the art of war by Sun Tzu China".
Well, Ming invaders did a efficient job of murdering a large portion of old Viet culture so Le dynasty had to adopt even more Chinese culture to fill in the blanks as nobody know the old custom anymore.
Đại Việt conquered Champa centuries afterward. Chăm and Việt are 2 different ethnics the Việt state conquered, distroyed and assilated ethnic chăm. We are conqueror not unifier. Thus the invasions of Đại Việt and Champa were 2 different campaigns.
Lie
@@cudanmang_theog any proof?????
@@nhienleminhhue6605 saying Vietnamese were the conquerors for the tiny land? Are you seriously? What about Burma, Khmer empire
From 1360 to 1390, Dai Viet and Champa waged wars against each other and Dai Viet was merely defeated and destroyed by the Cham.
@@cudanmang_theog the Cham was just simply raiding Đại Việt not conquering, they captured Thăng Long and left. They won a few battles but lost the whole war eventually. In the next few decades Đại Việt gradually expand southwards and kingdom of Champa was destroyed for good
I've seen another video about this war and u left out many other details. u left out the damages the viets did to the Mongol army. u left out how they captured a Mongol general then freed him to a tampered ship so he sunk while sailing home lol. the viets where str8 gangsta
It's Omar general
War could only result in one winner; peace will result in everyone winning.
Mongol failed their objective, therefore they lost while Dai Viet successfully defended the country 3 times. I don’t see the confusion here. The tribute was only to rebuild friendship and trading. They did this many time in the past, before this.
I think Daiviet won the Yuan. Instead of losing the entire country, now Daiviet lose just some neglect amount of gold. A big different!
Our ancestors gave them some treats for them to stop harassing our people safety
Nice narrative and arts. Minor mistake at 9:50 you forgot to edit the label for “Trần Ích Tắc” the defect.
did they win? yeah IMHO a vietnamese victory because they did not need to accept the terms. but to me surprising was to learn how often the vietnamese in history were really able to beat a vastly superior foe
US troops: F**k, these wooden sticks are destroying my army
China and Mongols: First time?
Mongol they lost thousands of troop when they invaded vietnam so i can say this is a clear win for vietnam
We lost a lot from all the destruction so it was not one sided at all.
Tens of thousands. They sent in 80 000 soldiers and 90 000 supporters and die at least half due to starving, ambush, and disease
Great video, subscribed.
According to historians, known as the most violent barbarians in human history, the Mongols had been fully responsible for displacing the world populations and changing the face of human history through their widespread bloody massacres. Every inch on earth the Mongols passed, was greased with human fat and soaked with human blood. Scholars regard the Mongol conquest as one of the deadliest invasions in human history. In fact, it took Iran almost a century to recover its original peak population prior to the Mongols' invasion. Even the deadliest winters in Russia could not deter the Mongols from invading Moscow and Kiev. After their successful conquest of the Great Russia, the Mongols again repeated the great success with their powerful speed and maneuverability in addition to their lethal horsebows in the Battle of Legnica in 1241 known as the Battle of Liegnitz in Poland. The mighty Mongol army totally crushed the combined defending forces of European fighters, twice its size. The decisive victories in Poland and Hungary have become some of the most celebrated episodes in the Mongols world conquest, which showed the effectiveness of the Mongol war machine. Suffering the same fate as the European countries, West Asian countries including Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey one by one submitted to the powerful Mongol army. Sadly, China was not an exception. The Chinese Empire said to the mighty Mongol Empire, "Our Empire is as vast as the sea, yours is but a handful of sand." The Chinese had paid a deadly price for their arrogance they would never forget. The mighty Mongol army creatively went around the Great Wall of China, easily got inside and savagely massacred all the Chinese people, leaving a mountain of human skulls/bones outside the Great Wall that could be visible from miles away for years. According to historians, “Body [of the Chinese prisoners] stacked ‘like rotten logs’ littered the ground for more than 30 miles.” The mighty Mongol army led by the bloodthirsty commander Subedei continued to brutally burn, pillage, rape, and murder all the populations of 90 Chinese cities for over 6 months. As a result, unable to protect the Chinese people from the Mongols' attack, China's Great Wall has sadly become a historic symbol of China's eternal shame and failure. Finally, the mighty Mongol army conquered all of China in 1279 after Western Xia Dynasty, Dali Kingdom, Jin Dynasty and Song Dynasty all one by one shamefully surrendered to the Mongols. In less than 80 years, the unbeatable Mongol Empire successfully conquered half of the known world from West to East, including all of China. Continuing the ambitious dream of conquering the entire world, Kublai Khan immediately started the southward expansion where a small country known as Dai Viet (currently Vietnam) at the time was his first target. However, totally failing to achieve the great successes as seen earlier in the century, the unbeatable Mongol army met its match. In spite of having been fully equipped with thousands of well-armed warships, the mighty Mongol army of over 500,000 well-trained troops, led by the most brilliant and successful military commanders of all time with the greatest military strategy of Sun Tzu, was totally bitterly defeated, not once but three times (1258, 1285, and 1288) by the Vietnamese; and the decisive victory of the Vietnamese army led by Vietnamese Prince Tran Quoc Tuan against the invading mighty Mongol army in the bloody battle at the Bach Dang River in 1288 eventually brought an end to the Mongols invasion of Dai Viet as well as their ambitious dream of conquering the entire world. If having learned that the resilient Vietnamese people had successfully kicked out all of the 7 powerful Chinese dynasties (Qin, Dong Wu, Han, Song, Ming, Yuan, Qing) with their utterly failed attempts to assimilate the Vietnamese after the 1,000-year Chinese domination, the Mongol Empire would have never even thought of invading Vietnam.
I do not think both sides won the war because Vietnam was ready to pay tributary to Mongolia Empire before the war.
Mongol: *approach*
Vietnamese: NIGERUNDAYOOOO SMOKEYYY
Looking at more than 4000 years of history, the total time Vietnamese people lived in peace and independence was only about 700 years. If printing a list (with the size of 14) only including the names of wars involving Vietnamese people, we will need 3 sheets of A4 paper (equivalent to 6 sides of paper). You know, when we do something over and over again, we become an expert by itself.
When you are a tiny country surrounded by giants for thousands of years, that means that you either got the it all figured out, or you got balls of steel. Vietnam has both and awesome pho to boot!
I approve of the pronounciation and most of this video's historical accuracy
To be able to repel the mongol is very impressive!
this channel deserves 100x more subscribers and views.
The Vietnamese even back then used the terrains and plains of the jungles, forests, and rain forests to there advantages
Vietnam - the tough little boy who kicks ass of all bullies ^_^
When Genghis Khan gets Home Alone'd in Vietnam
He is already dead when the invasion happen
Genghis Khan was long dead before the Mongols got to DaiViet.
By that time, the Mongols was actually weakened due to succession wars and stuff.
"Asgard is not a place; never was. ... Asgard is where our people stand."_Odin, Thor:Ragnarok_
Now we know Odin had good grades at History back when he went to Asgardian School
For the long time, Dai Viet monarch granted the title King by the Imperial Chinese , but we call our monarch Emperor and didn't give a f to the North Imperial
Yes this only happens for Dại Viet and Japan.
But, Korea they completely obey what they are granted by the Imperial Chinese - a true puppet of China
Historically Mongols are plains peoples of the steppe and they are great light cavalries ...but when they enter Viet Nam the Viet starts blasting “welcome to the jungles!!! We got fun and games” by guns n roses.
First of all that wasn’t “ vietnam wasn’t unified yet” it was two different countries daiviet and champa with two totally different races
Diffirent country 😂 it like han vs xong nu
Vietnam is Impossible to Invade:
Han and Tang Dynasty: Allow me to introduce myself.
yeah, and they are both dead, duh
Trong thời gian 1000 năm đấy có hàng chục cuộc nổi dậy của người Việt để đòi lại độc lập và đỉnh điểm với nhà nam hán năm 938 của Ngô Quyền và trước đó là năm 40 khởi nghĩa của 2 bà Trưng với nhà Đông Hán và cuộc khởi nghĩa của vua Mai Hắc Đế chống lại sự xâm lược của nhà đường đầu thế kỷ thứ 8 .
Can you make a video about Lý Long Tường (李龍祥/이용상 / Yi Yong-sang) pls ? I want to know about his journey (Dai Viet -> Goryeo) and the another Mongol invasions of Goryeo at that time.
Mongols saying "Yeah, we like, still totally won though.." is 100% a cope.
lmao
Those exist in history & it's important to ackowledge them. 😌
This is more interesting than what I've learned in school in Viet Nam.
This guys always gets the pronunciations on point !
No, that is definitely not the right way. To be fair vietnamese is kinda hard for western people. I rather he butcher their name because he make vietnamese sound like chinese. Which is a no no for vietnam
@@giaopx dude, you got my point
@@giaopx its sarcasm, hes just joking. the pronounciation is so off, its not even close.
@Việt Hà he did try, but sometime we, Vietnamese do mispronounce. Vietnamese is hard, so dont be that serious
Wow! I didn't know my Mogal people lost or this kind of history. Thank you for sharing!
Great content
Thực tế ra địa hình phía bắc việt nam rất phức tạp.ko thể sử dụng chiến thuật dàn người đánh phủ đầu của quân Nguyên. Có thể đánh bại nhà tống vì có đồng bằng rộng lớn. Còn ở phía bắc việt nam có địa hình đồi núi.phần đồng bằng phía đông nam thì có nhiều con sông. Nếu dùng kế sách thì quân Nguyên sẽ bị thiệt hại. Nhưng ở Việt Nam thời điểm đó có rất nhiều người tài . Quân Nguyên thua tướng tài là đúng. Trong một trận chiến tài năng của người lãnh đạo chiếm 50% xác xuất chiến thắng
Maintaining an existence is a win.
Maintaining tributaries under control is also a win.
Dang, hard to pick the winner here
I am a Vietnamese, we was taught that Vietnam was unified by then (the Mongol invasion) under the rule of Trần dynasty and yes, our trees were talking back then too =))
Lo mà học đi cháu.
At 9:30. Sugetu aka Toa Do did not die in Champa. He went deep into south Vietnam and conquered vast land of Nghe An- Thanh Hoa, Almost half of Vietnam at that time. He was to together with Orma ( O ma Nhi) hunted for the Viet king and did not success. He did not know that Toyan ( Thoat Hoa) withdrew from the North. So the King come back from the north front line and fight him. He ran toward the sea and beheaded in a fight. ( Some said he ambushed and killed by arrow first). Vietnam king had so much respect for him so he took off he clothe to cover the head and even said Be this guy if you guys want to serve me. Omar was captured and released but drowned since his ship was intentionally sinked by the king. Omar offended the kings family cemetery and killed many innocent.
Even Vietnam Old National Declaration was wrong about it. Nguyen Trai said Sugetu was captured alive at Ham Tu Gate. About 30 km from Thang Long HaNoi. Toa Đô ký cầm ư Hàm Tử quan,
Ô Mã hựu ế ư Bạch Đằng hải.