Play Conflict of Nations for FREE on PC or Mobile: 💥con.onelink.me/kZW6/c1e78fb0 Receive an Amazing New Player Pack, only available for the next 30 days! CORRECTIONS BELOW: I do want to make a few additional comments as well: - We do not claim that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a legitimate excuse for US intervention. The (second part of the attack) was fabricated as a means to go to war with North Vietnam. Secondly, I never stated that the US was ever justified in its intervention in Vietnam, in fact, I personally do not think the US was justified. - We did not show the Ho Chi Minh quote at 7:34 in its full context, which is an honest mistake of ours. We fully take responsibility for that. - We did not mention the use of Agent Orange, which we think would be a very interesting topic for a follow-up video. We regret not mentioning chemical warfare in this video.
Can you make more videos about other proxy wars and battles in the Cold War, such as the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Anglo-Franco-Israeli invasion of the Sinai and the Suez canal, the Korean war,, the afghan-soviet war, the Civil wars in Central America, the Angolan Civil War with Cuban and South African intervention, etc.
They are suggesting videos, so I will suggest only one: Something related to the middle ages, I mean I love XX century history, but variation is always better Great vid
Greatly appreciated this documentation! I hope that the team can further complete the piece of the puzzle by shining a light towards the Third Indochina War which has been mostly forgotten in history. I'm looking forward to it!
so near the end u say that the domino theory was proved wrong because communism didnt spread to the rest of south east asia which i find confusing because i seem to recall both Laos and Cambodia becoming communist, and that Laos like Vietnam is still ideologically communist today
My grandpa is now 90. He's a Vietnamese. He fought the French since he was 13, then the Japanese when he was 15. He later on joined Viet Cong to fight the Americans. He was captured twice, brutally tortured (which resulted in 10 missing teeth and a bullet in his shoulders; the shrapnel still remains inside his body). He was released when the war ended, happily marched into the city of Saigon. The joy didn't last long. He marched towards the Northern border to fight of Chinese forces in 1979 and later joined the Expeditionary forces in Cambodia to fight Pol Pot. Of course he's now retired. His name is Nguyen Van Dong - alive and well. Three of his sons died during the war, two of them were only 9 and 10 when they died (of a bomb raid which hit their shelter). He grieved as much as anyone would when they lost their love ones. My mother is his 9th child, and also the last child. He kept a lot of medals inside his cabinet in the rural province of Ben Tre. He also kept a picture of me since I have gone studied abroad in Hungary. He said that he survived too many wars, and he hoped that he would also live until the day I returned which is 3 years from now. I love him more than anyone. Update: he's still doing well, just received his 2nd jab. Still one year left to my graduation. Can't wait to see him! Update: he’s doing well, should say he’s now 92. Grandma can’t hear well, so they can’t really talk to each other (without shouting). It’s sad to see how you can see each other, but can’t hear what the other says. I hope there’s a way to fix this. Update: he’s currently undergoing extensive treatment from a stroke he had. It’s not promising ngl. He told me he’s gonna wait until the day I come back… Last update: hi everyone, i hope anyone’s reading this is doing alright. It’s unfortunate to announce that my grandfather passed away yesterday in his sleep on the 30th of January 2023. He’s 93 years old. He couldn’t keep his promise of staying alive until the day i get back. It’s only 5 months left…I’m in a really bad place. I lighted a candle in a church in Vienna, hoping that he can rest in peace, always overlooking me as I grow up. I sincerely thank everyone for their kind comments. I guess this is the end of our story. Additional update: this is a sad update. My grandma also passed away today, on 26th of March, 2024. She’s 90 and had dementia. I’m very sad but also somewhat relieved now that she can reunite with my grandpa, although I love her so so much. I would like to thank everyone again for their lovely wishes. Your attention makes their story so much more meaningful. I hope we can all carry their stories and memories to our heart so that they can forever live within us. With much love, Simon.
@@Timoshemperoni You should. It’s relatively cheap, amazing food, friendly people. I’d advise you to spend only a couple of days in Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh. Spend your time more in some other regions as well because they’re really underrated. Hope you can make it.
Lots of respect to your grandfather! I will repeat what I have already commented under the video: I am from the Czech republic and Vietnamese make up the third largest minority (after Slovaks and Ukrainians) since a lot of them came here to study when Czechoslovakia was still a socialist country and they decided to stay mostly due to the economic reasons. From my point of view they are very pleasant hard-working people adapting to the new enviroment better than the Arabs and Africans in Germany or France. Best wishes to your family and all Vietnamese people. 🇨🇿🤝🇻🇳
It’s still impressive how Vietnam faced off against giants like the French Empire, the Japanese Empire, the US, China, and on top of that still managed to invade and retain successfully Cambodia and stop a g$nocide. Simply impressive.
The Vietnamese got that from another General who successfully threw off the Foreign rule from a distant Imperial power. I think his name was George Washington.
General Westmoreland was confident that the US Armed Forces would win using the strategy of attrition warfare. For every American soldier killed, the US forces would kill 10 VC/NVA. John Paul Vann, top US military advisor in Vietnam, calculated that to win in this fashion, the US of A would have to lose 500,000 dead and it would take 10 years to win. If North Vietnam had gone Total War and the Americans had decided to keep the war going using the same strategy, they would have to kill 5 million VC/NVA in 10 years time.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 only militarily for the US. Tet offensive demoralized the American public and had dire effects that eventually quicken the US withdraw.
Ho Chi Minh spent years in Western countries like the US, England and France and even in some African countries. He is not a guy that you would assume as being brainwashed but actually effectively fusing different ideologies. In the US he spent a long time observing the black rights movement and got in touch with many black leaders. Abraham Lincoln's ideologies heavily influenced Ho Chi Minh to the point that parts of Lincoln's speech about human rights were referenced in Vietnam Independence Declaration
You know the West is the protector of freedom of thought, therefore whoever thinks differently or contradicts them is not using their freedom to think, because no one free would think of thinking against them
Of all of the leaders to establish a movement and create a government in modern history, his record and beliefs are the most benevolent in my mind. Uncle was a fair and pragmatic leader who genuinely wanted a great future for EVERYONE in Vietnam. One Vietnam, One People. He spent a lot of time trying to unify the region, not just Vietnam and went to numerous peace talks, trying to court cooperation with the world during his days of exile and travel. The only stains on his record that I am aware of was the injustice enacted on farmers as the economy transitioned to a managed market economy as opposed to a state owned economy such as NK. The growing pains were hard and while not perfect, he is one of the few leaders who never murdered or mutilated his own population in the name of "freedom" or "development."
With everything the world has done to Vietnam? They’re friendliness and welcoming nature has to be the 8th wonder. It’s incredible how optimistic and strong-willed they are as a people.
@Justus Immelmann I can't blame the Vietnamese for how they treated American POWs. They were fighting for their independence against a very unpopular regime (Propped up by foreign interests through oppression and corruption), and here come these foreigners who constantly bomb them and destroy their environment with chemical weapons.
@Justus Immelmann problem is that's the literal truth no matter how you class it as "Commie Propaganda". Look if you want to be a US shill that's on you, but to actively deny a country's history is just plain idiotic. More so the fact that Vietnam isn't a communist country.
@Justus Immelmann Or you're the one who has been fed propaganda. If you're such a buff on the history of propaganda I'm sure you're familiar with The Church Committee and their findings. The fact of the matter is that US intervention caused untold hardship in both countries you mentioned, just as it did in Chile, Nicaragua, and still does in Colombia, Venezuela, and all parts of the Middle East, and that intervention is strictly for monetary gain, just as it was during the Banana Wars, the Philippines and so on. Capitalist imperialism is nothing new and it's only the extremely naive that could somehow believe all this foreign intervention is for the sake of benevolence or self-defense. It's interesting that you also throw in the thinly veiled xenophobia of attacking the Viet Cong over war crimes when the United States' hands were just as dirty in that war. Perhaps better to realize that war is an awful thing that turns men into monsters no matter which side they're on and it's best to be avoided at all costs, instead of wasting countless lives and infinite money waging neverending war for the sake of arms-producers, news media, PMCs and other corporations.
“The Vietnamese people were confused why the Americans were invading and attacking them for no reason when they didn’t ever do anything to them...”. That narration hit me...
@@Mike-oi2th it was also a competition for showing who’s boss which led to stronger trading power and thus more resources. So pretty much the same reason just under a different name
yep my country was also confused why westerners randomly turned up and pretended to be nice to us they were using it for shows when they were truly coming here to secure members for their battle for global superpower. good thing my country decided to become a member of the non-aligned movement
@@Mike-oi2th Wrong it's not a war for ideology, the dirty little secret is that the vietnam war was a war for cheap heroin so that pharmaceutical industry can make huge profits, thus leading to opioid crisis in the 2000s. Afghanistan is also another war for heroin. American soliders are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan.
Right? Tired of the nationalist perspective, i.e. "America beat the commies all the way back to their own shores. They beat the commies so bad that they let them stay communist cause they weren't even scurrd. Take that commies"
@@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 it's gotten better, still not gonna take the bitterness out of my mouth from what we were having crammed down our throats as "history" in grade school. 🙄😂😂
My mom's ancestor is Hoang Ke Viem, a general under Nguyen Dynasty. He lead people fought against France. Later on, the next generations always joined to fight against invasions. My mom old house used to be a weapon supply for Viet Cong. Her dad and other relatives are all soldiers. It make me feel very proud about myself.
Yeah it really has. I've been watching for a few years and it's quite obvious it has, especially the maps. It's not supposed to be 100% life like and I think some mongoloids don't understand that and still attack it.
Yea i came here for history of armchairs. I feel mislead. Cheated and absolutely lied too. Lol nah for real this channel is amazing, great info and entertaining.
When I was a kid, a friend of my father , who serves in Indian Navy , he narrated the Vietnamese freedom struggle , to date, i never forgotten....... I genuinely admire the courage of Vietnamese people.Moreover, it is now clear, that Nixon initiated the campaign to sabotage the My Lai massacre trials so no American soldier involved in the killings would be convicted of war crimes. Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom.- Ho Chi Minh
Yeah I know what you mean. Plus Vietnam gives a lot of inspiration for better or worse, about how a people of a country can be determined and by willingly to fight for what they believe in. Just look at countries such as Afghanistan. The Soviets were there for a decade from 1979 to 1989 and now the US has been there for 20 years! From 2001 to now.
@Sterling Archer look up indo China war, it’s where it really started, the French had Laos Cambodia & Vietnam, Also America helped Vietnam in WW2 by training & giving arms, Oss now known as today as CIA Trained hoi chi meng
Vietnam survived on its own against imperialist Japanese, French, American, and Chinese forces; and then went on saving the Cambodians from the genocidal UN-backed Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge while suffering from vicious economic sanctions. What a remarkable feat of determination and goodwill!
The Khmer Rouge wasn't really backed by the UN as a whole just largely communist leaning countries and was a puppet of China hence why they tried to invade Vietnam in the 70s. Not sure if you are calling the Americans imperialist or not though but they aren't.
@@noticedruid4985 The CIA funded Pol Pot & had agents in his 'peoples militias' Pol Pot only got to power because of the CIA, too. The US is most definetly imperialist, and always has.
Wow , i mean that is true but most people don’t even know that . They always rely my comments like “North Communist Party” are too aggressive and invaded countries that ARE US ally . And all actions Americans did is RiGHT , to stop communism, help ally , give them strength... but failed to save xD
@@noticedruid4985 the US coerced Thailand into sheltering Pol Pot remnants after they were driven away by Cambodia so they could stage guerilla warfare against the Vietnamese and the new Cambodia government. They also provide naval and intelligent support to the Chinese during China invasion into North Vietnam and promise to step in if the USSR decided to retaliate.
As a Vietnamese, my dad always has a funny saying: "The invaders of Vietnam never won, because there was nothing to win in Vietnam!" This is because Vietnam was a very poor and rural country, if there was an invasion, Vietnamese would burn down their straw huts (which are flammable) and run to the South. The invaders never got anything from the invasion. Vietnam were always the underdogs, but they had determination!
My aunt died in the Vietnam war, the reason is ridiculous: US soldier asked her if she know where VC soldiers are, she cant reply cuz she dont know any english, then they shoot her, this year, my father was only 2 yo. My grandmother told me she was so good, she took care everyone, everyday. Now i am 28, she still 10. Rest in peace, aunt! I dont know your face, but i heard all your story and i know i love you aunt
My grandpa fought the French, my uncles fought the American and Polpot (Red Khmer), my father fought in Chinese invasion (80s), so I can imagine the wars through their stories. And my father always say that after going through wars, we Vietnamese appreciate peace even more.
I respect you learning from my family past I think about hate and suffering during that war but for now I think continue moving forward love your family and friends I hope you have good day. from Vietnamese American
I bet your father mentioned nothing about Land Reform or Cultural Revolution. Those things happened during "Peace" time. I grew up listening to my father's stories everyday, until one day reality slapped me in the face and told me that "Your father's stories are b****, wake the f***k up".
I was lucky enough to perform about 5 years ago for a ceremony with Vietnamese industrial leaders and the US Ambassador at an event in Hanoi. It was to celebrate ‘40 years of the normalization of trade’ between to the two nations and my band was a mix of Memphis musicians and Vietnamese musicians. My family had veterans from the war and I felt it was a full circle moment to share music and arts in peace. Thanks for the amazing content.
I think it was a a bit less than 40 years. That would have been on 1980. I was in HCM/Saigon in 1994 when President Clinton ended the trade embargo. Pepsi rolled out free soda to lots of people. According to the US State Dept website relations were normalized in ‘95. www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-vietnam/
@@RobPetty622 cool. Thanks for the info. Well, I guess it was some type of celebration then of that 95 agreement which would make since to be 20 years not 40 years cuz I was there in 2015. Ford and FedEx reps and some other companies were there and I met the US ambassador and his husband (yes, he had a husband and they were so cute)
I worked for JC Penneys for 10 years until 2005. I would research inventory and contact vendors and do price changes. Suits purchased from Vietnam for $53 were being sold for $325 - $475. Capitalism and slavery at its finest.
A stardard ration of Vietnamese troops was 8 pound of rice, salt, and anything u could find in the jungle. My grandfather plattoon happened to stumble on a US ration package with a can of Spam and that was just their best day ever
My mother was was a student in one Moscow university at that time. She remember seeing multiple Vietnamise people living in there dorm aswell. She didn't know who they were. May be exchange students. They looked a little bit old for students. One time she was bored so she went to a cinema club in their student dorm. There was only her and 1 Vietnamese guy. The move was "Cranes are Flying " - a tragic soviet movie about ww2, where girl is waiting for beloved one to come back from frontline but he died. At the end of the movie my mom saw sietnamese guy started to cry. Movie was sad but, she saw that it resonated a lot with him. She asked if he is ok, and why he is crying. He said that he was vietcong soldier and has been fighting for most of his life. For his action he was promoted and send by the communist party to Moscow to get higher education. That he is almost 50 years old while average age of living in Vietnam at that time was 60. He didn't have much time to live and was f%cking tired of war and this education he needed to get, and the only thing he wanted was peace and be left alone. That was a heavy for my mom. WW2 ended before she was born and Vietnam was something very distant and informed only by state media in a way of "glorious and patriotic working people of Vietnam are fighting against imperialist aggression". And here he was - tired and broken man, having his life devastated by the war
I wonder people commenting below really read your comment. Lol. They thought you are praise the North but in fact, it was the opposite. One particular is Disney Asia Official. I found this really funny.
My history teacher told us about a meeting between US and Vietnamese veterans decades after this war. The US veterans asked their former enemies why they were so willing to fight and die for communism. The Vietnamese veterans responded: "We were not fighting for communism, we were fighting for Vietnam."
I'm a US Navy veteran, served in the Gulf war. Now that I know alot of things I didn't then, I am completely anti war. I get ALOT of crap from fellow veterans of all ages when I ask them...."who invaded whose county and for what reasons exactly?" And "If China ( or any other large military) showed up on OUR shores and brought us "freedom" and "liberty" by blowing up our cities and killing civilians, would we not fight back?
@@voiceofreason1208 Most wars are fought over resources and to maintain the power of the ruling classes not over morality and giving aid to other human beings. And yes I include all under that banner of the ruling classes, political left or right, culturally east or west, christian, muslim, whatever religion, whoever has the power wants more power and wealth and above all to safe guard that power and wealth.
I'm Vietnamese. Thank you for all of your hard work studying and sharing my country's bloody and brutal history to the world. Btw, this channel's animation is on point. He even got the Vietnamese version of Ho Chi Minh's Declaration of Independence.
I'm currently visiting Vietnam, and just visited the war crimes museum in Ho Chin Minh. The pictures are heartbreaking. I can't take them out of my head. I'm not American, or from any country that colonized Vietnam, but the stories and pictures in that museum just makes me want to apologise to the Vietnamese people on humanity's behalf.
When I was growing up in USSR in the 80s and 90s people used to collect stamps. Many of these stamps were from VietNam and probably 90% of them had images of Vietnamese art depicting Vietnamese fighting the war, and various scary pictures of war.
@@rusty3073 Depends on the time you meant, but in general according to my family - yes, it was not an actual padadise of course, but it wasn't that bad as western historians claims it was. Unfortunately with current attempts to rewrite history this claim is true only if there're a lot of witnesses left, who actually lived in the USSR and knew it from personal experience instead of history textbooks. But things will change in a future, when there's no one left. Even in Russia today there's a big difference of opinion between people who was born in raised in the USSR and who was born later, can't imagine what people in the west is thinking on the subject when the only source they can rely on is their history textbooks. I can at least ask my family and there's no reason for them to lie to me, can't really say the same about historians.
The Vietnamese youth could still drop their tears every time when watching the kind of this video or something else that's similar. At least one of us had at least a family member who had died of the war in the past. The US had not even understood that Vietnam has 2.000 years of history fighting against invaders namely China, France, Japan and we have always won to hold back our freedom. Sadly, we had had to sacrifice a lot for nothing that we had done to the powerful countries.
As an American soldier I will say this. God bless you Vietnamese. Brutal history, most unassuming people, and yet one of the best fighters on the planet. You have my respect
@@_____..______340 On the contrary..Vietnamese people despise the growing crimes committed by the US Armed Forces, but after all this time, I think that every Vietnam veteran would see a soldier, an American veteran, as a former enemy, but also a companion in the same hell that they both went through..If they Russian/Soviet soldiers who "ran" half of Europe from Stalingrad and conquered Berlin, could shake hands and sympathize with ordinary German soldiers, members of the Wehrmacht (not the Waffen SS, they were beasts) in the early 1990s, and that was a world war, war to the point of extermination (if the Russians had lost, they would have disappeared as a nation!), I think that the veterans of a regional, difficult and tragic, but still regional war - could find understanding for each other. Wars are started by old men in armchairs, politicians, and ended by guys and men in the trenches, on both sides of which there is usually a similar hell during the entire course of the war, only the end is different (for the winner and the defeated)..
My grandfather and his best friend participated in the Polpot war in Cambodia. When the war ended, he went home with an amputated leg and his friend also lost an arm. The sad thing is that many of his friends have gone and will never return. Not only that, after the war, harsh sanctions were imposed on Vietnam, leading to the next generation living in poverty and hardship. Until now, being at peace and living in true freedom, I feel extremely grateful for the blood and blood sacrifices of my ancestors.
Your grandfather and friend did great things, they liberated Cambodia from a horrible man, I'm just a Colombian guy but I have a lot of respect for the Vietnamese people, I hope that one day there will be eternal peace
This is gonna be cringe to say and you may don’t like me, I respect you and listen to both North And South Vietnam soldier different point of view more better than one side on usa point of view. Hope you have good day dude and your grandpa doing well. From Vietnamese American.
@alo alo yeah like we kind of let the Mongols in for a few times (abandoning the cities, poisoning the water sources, cutting their supply routes and intercepting their supply sources) and then finally strike them at their weakest. And the Mongols fell for that 3 times (1258, 1285 and 1287-88)
@@HuyPham-km9kn I’m American and I would just like to say that i love Vietnam. You went against all odds against Imperialism and Tyranny and liberated your people. Thank you.
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I still remember my grandma's stories about the war she experienced in the past. It was really horrible. My grandma had many narrow escapes from death. She has an elder brother and she is heartbroken whenever she tells me about him. He died while fighting at Quang Tri Citadel which is called "the meat grinder". He was extremely happy the day he could go and fight for his country. He said that fighting all his heart for his country is worth it even if he could die. I still can't imagine how I would be if I were born at that time
@@thuyyouto Cambodians have the longest history in the world. And our country is developing, our future will be more prosperous than Vietnam. Vietnamese people will envy us. That's the truth 🤗🇰🇭✌️
Emilio Aguinaldo was a douche. If he wasn’t, Philippines would’ve be pre-Vietnam. (Yes I know Vietnam had foreign support, but the Philippines did get foreign support from Japan)
US policy was always to give the Philippines their independence and it became law to due so in 1935. The Philippines were a few years from getting their independence when the Japanese invaded. We possessed Cuba too after the Spanish American War and they became independent in 1902.
As a foreigner recently living in Vietnam, I am realising that there is so much about Vietnam propagated in the West that is (perhaps unsurprisingly) one-sided and bias, but has managed to linger in popular culture for so long. Uncovering it myself in-situ has been eye-opening and videos like this help greatly. Kudos to this video for highlighting the century of conflict (indeed millenia considering the Chinese) that Vietnam has endured. Context is everything and so much context is missing from the West's understanding of Vietnam. As an example, the most surprising for me was Vietnam's subsequent fight *against* the Khmer in Cambodia, which was another communist regime. Communism is used so liberally to paint over what are complex situations, so I'm glad this video finished by saying that the underlying motivation of the Vietnamese was that of unification and liberty, adding much-needed context to what is typically seen as a one-dimensional story.
They only clashed because Khmer Rouge believed after Khmer Issarak, and Laos Issarak (freedom fighter rebels) help Vietnam defeated U.S, Ho Chi Minh agenda changed toward the non Vietnamese rebel groups and believed he wanted to unifed Indochina under Vietnam policy ( to fight off their number one enemy China). Khmer Rouge believed Vietnam was setting up puppets / agents in the Khmer Rouge camp to overthrow their party. This lead to slaughtering innocent Cambodian civilans and murdered 4,500 Vietnamese mention in history. Khmer Rouge was close with Viet Minh. They also trained Khmer Rouge until 1970. Pol Pot also relocated majority Khmer population to the countryside after U.S illgeally bombed neutral Cambodia in Ho Chi Minh Trail. ..
@@sppro994 America tried to cover for the Khmer Rouge specifically to get even with losing to the Vietnamese. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal who protects other war cirminals.
We were just simple rice farmers who were trying to be free from the slavery of the french. Sensing that we were close to winning our freedom, they went and asked for helped from their big brother america. I thought america was against slavery but it turns out they decided we needed to remain slaves to the french. I'm not sure how but the clever americans convinced half our country to turn on each other with a brainwashed puppet leading them. We now had to fight against a Massive godlike force that had metal birds that dropped fire from the skies. They say you dropped more ordinance on us than all of WWii combined. You burned our people with napalm. But the worst is that you poison us with agent orange which i found our had devastating affects on a persons dna, causing cancer and deforming babies. Your hatred of us even extends to the next generation. Good cover up saying that you were using it to try and clear the trees. You wiped out nearly 4 millions civilians and the real numbers could be a lot higher, we're not sure because your carpet bombing just eradicated the land of everything, corpes wouldn't even remain because of the sheer ammount of bombs shredding the earth. We can't count bodies if you completely erase everything. So to survive we literally had to dig into the earth and live like worms, it was our only way to survive. But that wasn't enough for you, you couldn't bare the thought of us being free and would rather end us than to let that happen so you chase us into the ground to finish us. The worst part is you try to praise us saying that we used them for ambushes but any decent intelligent person would ask why would we risk exposing the extrance to our final last safe place and our families? You used the civilians as meat shields because you knew we wouldn't shoot at our own innocents people, while you slaughtered everyone you came across. The stories I would hear about how you would play out your darkest fantasies saying you would make the nazi look innocent in comparison. You people are truly evil. You tried to claim our little fishing boat attacked your giant metal warships. How? With what? You weren't trying to stop communism, you were just flexing how evil americans can be. For our people, I hope they don't learn the truth of the horrors you committed. I don't have any hatred left, I'm just now scared. I'm scared of how evil you are. What did we do to deserve this?
*"All we wanted was peace, but the only choice that we had was to fight for it. After many sacrifices, it was finally over. The dream of a peaceful time has come true."*
A little more context on that helicopter crew as that man desrrves to be recognized for his actions. This story was told to me during my service when we were discussing lawful orders. Hugh Thompson was a reconnaissance helicopter crew tasked with flying over a village to determine if their harbored pro-vietcong sentiment. During this time all he saw was the bodies of Vietnamese civilians murdered by US forces. He then took his helicopter and landed in the line of fire of american troops and aimed their guns at the perpetrators to prevent more killings. After approaching the leadership and preventing more bloodshed he then was able to convince the civilians to leave their bunkers to be evacuated and flew a young injured child to a hospital (those reconnaissance helicopters dont have much room). Afterwards he announced on radio: “It looks to me like there’s an awful lot of unnecessary killing going on down there. Something ain’t right about this. There are bodies everywhere. There’s a ditch full of bodies that we saw. There’s something wrong here.” and filed a report that helped create a cease fire. Later, he would testify against multiple U.S. army personnel and continued to fight to get justice. For his efforts he recieced death threats, people would leave dead animals on his porch, he ended up divorced with severe PTSD.
i can see why people would send death threats, but why the dumping of animal corpses on his porch? whoever did those should realize that in their pursuit to prove their point, they became as vicious as the US invaders
@@17MrLeon Right you're historian then , mind give me the source of it , or all the documentary you found is one-side and those document always said USA is hero to stop Communism , Am I right ? So what is your thoughts about military ops that bring B52 and ton of bombs dropped into innocent civilian , and yet that is not enough for the US , how about Ma Lai ?? what is your opinion about landing troops on foreign's lands , will you call it invading ? And did you watch the video ?
Thank you for this. Even as a child growing up in the US, I never understood why the Vietnamese were always portrayed as evil commies when they really had no choice. They wanted freedom. They helped the US in WW2. And then were led back into colonialism when the French came back. They were freedom fighters trying to fight off foreign invaders who wanted to exploit their people and land. The French and US government forced them into the arms of communism.
Đúng vậy, Tôi là người Bắc Việt. Thực tế ngày xưa trình độ văn hóa của người dân Việt Nam rất thấp, Không biết Cộng Sản là gì. Chỉ biết là muốn đánh đuổi Người Pháp cai trị hà khắc Việt Nam lúc đó, (Chủ nghĩa đế quốc - tình hình chung thế giới lúc đó). Đến ngày nay cũng vậy. Vì vậy người dân nước tôi chỉ đánh vì Việt Nam chứ không biết chế độ là gì.
Tôi lấy làm rất tiếc khi Hoa Kỳ đã không giúp Việt Nam đuổi người Pháp đi. Nếu Hoa Kỳ thực sự muốn thay đổi chế độ cộng sản ở Việt Nam, Thời điểm đó là rất thích hợp và hoàn toàn có thể. Lúc đó chế độ của Việt Nam sẽ được như Phương Tây - Mỹ ngày nay. (Nói thật có rất nhiều điểm trong chế độ của các bạn mà người Bắc Việt và Nam Việt chúng tôi rất thích, Nhất là ngày nay đang toàn cầu hóa ). Và thời điểm đó tổng thống của Việt Nam sẽ là Hồ Chí Minh rất khôn ngoan để giữ vững Việt Nam và giúp đỡ Hoa Kỳ như 1 đồng minh Uy tín thật sự. Nhưng Mỹ vì "sợ" đối đầu với Pháp nên đã chọn Pháp thay vì Việt Nam. Sau đó thì khi Pháp thua chạy thì những người cầm Quyền Mỹ lại "tham lam" muốn thay thế Pháp ở Việt Nam. Quả là 1 chính sách đi vào lòng đất và sai lầm nghiêm trọng của Mỹ.
@@dcmessitinh5854 bạn nói trình độ văn hoá thấp là sai rồi, chính Pháp là kẻ thực hiện chính sách ngu dân, chia để trị, và để dân ta mù chữ trong khoảng tgian bị xâm lược, còn trình độ phần lớn VN lúc trc khi bị xâm lc theo Nho giáo nên rất coi trọng việc học nhé
Interesting how when yankees killed unarmed Vietnamese rice farmers, the numbers of Viet Cong didn't go down, but _up_ Aand it didn't reduce the motivation of the guerrillas, it increased it
@@aurin_komak My comments might show some bias towards Vietnam bc well i'm still vietnamese but ye, we dont really care about communism or capitalism. We just want to see our families be able to live happily. That is a large factor in Vietnamese morale during the time, seeing the bombing only ignited us more to die for the sake our families being able to live in peace. Because if it was true that we are fighting solely for whatever communism is we would have already fallen XD
@@tedmccarron And when the commies came to Saigon, they all dropped their gears and uniforms and ran instead of resisting. Yeah, very eager. The Germans put up way better resistance than them.
I visited Hanoi and Da Nang in 2017. I met very nice and smiling people. Hope this pandemic could end soon, because I want to return to visit my beloved Vietnamese friends. A big hug and warm greetings from Italy! 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳
@@miketexas4549 italian government has prevented us to travel, and also to work (for unvaccined people) I suggest you to get informed, before speaking about the -so called- western world ☹️
Ask the Vietnamese about "The Vietnam War", and they will ask "which war"? They've had at least 4 wars in the 20th century. EDIT Feb13th2021: Wow at 1.3K Likes. Just for repeating what some Vietnamese I've spoken to would say.
@ChuoiChuoi The U.S. should have kept its nose out of your country's business. All the horrific killing and for what? I just don't understand. I've never understood it. And they're still at it. Iraq, Afghanistan, the horn of Africa, Yemen.
@@tachyontee3877 its nature, not about America , not about China, not about Russian,.. particularly. Its all about nature, if Vietnam getting strength like Japan in Ww2 they will start to do some imperialist stuffs
Ê-mi-ly, con ơi! Trời sắp tối rồi... Cha không bế con về được nữa! Khi đã sáng bùng lên ngọn lửa Đêm nay mẹ đến tìm con Con sẽ ôm lấy mẹ mà hôn Cho cha nhé Và con sẽ nói giùm với mẹ: Cha đi vui, xin mẹ đừng buồn!
As Russian who studying Vietnam I can say, that from my perspective Ho Chi Minh was not only the best example of communist, but also one of the best national leaders. He devoted his life to find a way to free his country.
Hugh thompson was the pilot who rescued the civilians and threatened the his fellow American infantry men that they will be fired upon by his gunners if they didn’t stop the May Lai massacre. He is a true American hero.
It really is though. It's all about the Vietnamese soldiers and whatnot, completely forgetting that the South Vietnam army fought against the north in what was a Civil war
There are two things of vietnamese which may suprise the foreigner, 1. vietnamese parent never teach children to hate someone who hurted us in the past. 2. Vietnamese love their family too much, loving is the only thing we was teached after wars, so, we fighted only for what we love, it is not because of what we hated.
when everyone is talking about how the vietnamese are in the trees, but the tunnels are their most vital advantage. *edit wow thanks for the likes, never thought it'd get this far*
I agree, I have watched hours and hours of these videos with no sign anywhere in regards to the history of armchairs! This is an outrage!! My feelings are hurt!!
France in WW2: "Those Germans will never go throught the Ardennes" Germany: Goes through the Ardennes France: *surprise Pikachu face* France in Dien Bien Phu: "Those Viet Minh will never go through the mountains with artillery" Viet Minh: Go through the mountains with artillery France: *surprised pikachu face*
They tried shooting us with machine guns. Little did they know that we Emu are surprisingly resistant the machine gun fire. Through this lack of understanding our victory was assured!
"Sir they have a truck with a Lewis machinegun. What are your orders?" "Just keep running, Emus. Oh, and you must get yourself caught in the steering wheel too so we can stop it."
The part where Ho Chi Minh is doing his speech about “...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” while two American OSS stand behind him as allies is just so ironic.
@@DarkxV12 tbh we wouldbe been better off if we didnt stop the democratic socialists in germany durong ww2. the communists and globalists gained major control of the world then
@@stevek8829 Mao taught Ho a lesson?? The objective was to get the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia which failed, Vietnam remained there until 1989. Though both claimed victory when the Chinese withdrew after a bloody war, most historians agree that it was a humbling experience for the Chinese as it was for the US before them.
"We would rather sacrifice everything than lose our country, definitely refuse to be slaves! Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom!" A legendary saying of the great leader of my nation, Ho Chi Minh, a short saying that is associated with the nation and that sentence is always in my mind. I am Vietnamese and I am very proud of my forefathers and my people. I am 23 years old this year, but since I was 15 years old, I have learned about my own national history. Especially about the resistance war against the US, the biggest and most glorious war of my people, if you ask what hell is like, let's talk about the war in Vietnam. Our forefathers have from bare feet and empty hands brought Glory and Pride to the nation and us generations to come. GLORY FOR VIETNAM!
South Vietnam was free until the North and the VC invaded and mass murdered millions, put people into concentration camps and then ruled as a dictatorship. That is 'freedom'?
The United States was defending South Vietnam. Which was invaded by North Vietnam unprovoked, South Vietnam did nothing to deserve this war. The United States stepped in to defend South Vietnam, North Vietnam took away the freedoms and the will of the people in South Vietnam, not to mention the countless atrocities the North committed against them. This war was not glorious in any way, its a travesty a dictator bent on growing his influence by destroying the lives of millions of people. A once prosperous South Vietnam destroyed by the North now forced to suffer poor conditions that exist in Vietnam today.
I just finished watching "The Sympathizer", that "nothing is more precious than independence and freedom" really hits different after watching that show.
And this isn't even mentioning how a few years after it won the war, Vietnam found itself at war with Communist China after declaring a protectorate war against the Chinese backed regime in Cambodia.
This also left out that Col. Dewey was killed in Vietnam before America joined the war entirely and is thought to be one of the reasons that U.S. government had no trust for Ho Chi Minh. Additionally, they sort of glazed over just how much Ho Chi Minh really didn't care for communism later on and how he was effectively ousted and just kept as a figurehead/icon for a chunk of the war.
@@TheVoracity Yes that is the reason the Tet offensive was such a failure. Le Duan and his cronies launched it against the advice of Vo Giap, and Ho was too ill to stop him.
I have a really great respect for Vietnam, they are tough and they did whatever it takes to achieve independence. They're also the current fastest rising economy in South East Asia. Much love from your ASEAN brother 🇻🇳🇵🇭
I was once married to a Vietnamese woman and have been to Vietnam 3 times. My observations from being in Vietnam. 1. Every home had a picture of Ho Chi Minh in their house included with their family shrine. When I asked my father in law about it (who didn’t speak a lick of English) answered me in plain English “Ho Chi Minh number one citizen”. 2. Everyone there was equal….equally poor. But happy and drunk, and worked very little. With eating and being drunk with family seemingly being the top priority. My ex wife’s take on the war. Keep in king she was born, educated, and grew up most of her life in South Vietnam. 1. She knew of the puppet governments that ran south Vietnam for the west back then and knew of the woman that was in charge (can’t think of her name) and that she was particularly vicious. 2. She was and grew up to be extremely proud of the Vietnamese victory l. As she would say…. America came against the Vietnamese people with guns, helicopters, and planes. The Vietnamese people had rocks. They used them rocks to take their Guns. They used those guns to take their grenades, and bazookas. They used their grenades, and bazookas to take their helicopters and planes. They used their helicopters and planes to win. Basically the idea that they had nothing and were being bullied by a stronger, richer nation. But they used their cunning and strength to turn the tide. Although she was bought into the American way of life she was still very proud of what went on and that Vietnam won against such a powerful foe against all odds through pure strength and will.
the vietnamese did have guns at the start of the war, but they also did recycle a ton of american munitions to use against them. the raw resourcefulness in their traps was huge. they would take unexploded bombs as well as shrapnel and make makeshift mines. not to mention the classic spike traps. the vietnamese also had more veteran troops than the US. they had finished fighting a war in the same jungle environment recently after all.
What a great video! As a young Vietnamese watching this video, I am crying because of the pain of my people had been through. I wish the US and Vietnam kept the good relationship as it was after the defeat of Japanese but I guess the US couldn’t just ignore their long time friendship with French either.
Aa a muslim-American, I can't help but feel sad for the Vietnamese because of how similar the war is to Afghanistan. Neither countries can ever be conquered, but many still suffered.
I'm an American, and I believe we should've helped Ho Chi Minh fight the French and the Chinese when he asked for help. But we were far too busy pleasing our allies and Stalin to help Vietnam. It saddens me that we had turned our backs on our ideals of freedom and independence from foreign nations so far that we were willing to let a nation that specifically asked for our help, fall to the tyrannical influence of Russian and Chinese communism.
@@DEFC0NZER0 no no no, Us and france dont has different. you dont know about your goverment and your leaders. They want money, more and more and never enough. your goverment and greedy fat cat bussinessman dont better than china goverment. And now Vietnam goverment is bad too. Iraq new goverment ( friend of us) is corrupt too. Politic-> power -> money -> greedy guys like politic. God dont like greedy guys but satan like them. Capitalism or comutilism is bad too because always greedy guy is leader. us goverment dont care Vietnam, they never help us fight with france. and china, russian help us because we fight with capitalism france and us. but you see? france and us capitalism, and Uk,..... go to 3 world country to power and money. what good of capitalism? because it to bad so commutilsm were born.
@@DEFC0NZER0 Americans are truly hypocritical. The source of turmoil in this world is you United States. China has not experienced war about 40 years. You Americans are waging wars around the world, for example, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya are all American battlefields.
Everything depends on the Americans. If they want to make war for 20 years then we shall make war for 20 years. If they want to make peace, we shall make peace and invite them to tea afterwards. - Ho Chi Minh Ho Chi Minh is chill.. 60 years later, everyone is having tea.
The US ultimately secured what it sought, a country not allied with China or the USSR, this came to fruition with the Sino-Vietnamese war and the subsequent formation of ties and military agreements between Vietnam and the US to counter China. The US's only concern is ensuring that it's sphere of influence goes mostly unchallenged.
@@GuyShōtō No, from the very beginning Ho Chi Minh knew that Vietnam cant rely on anyone. And till this day Vietnam doesnt have neither allies or enemies. We accept USSRs support with gratitude, but never let them interfere in our internal affairs. And Vietnam and China have a long, complicated relationship. As long as we have peace, everyone is just a friend
I'm amazed by the comments, so many patriotic vietnam people telling story about their elders. Much respect from Indonesia. We SEA people endured so much war. Hope the problem in Myanmar, Thailand, and others SEA countries will be better. 🇮🇩
because most of our elders joined the war volutarily to fight for our homeland. The US or Southen VN have a place to run but we don't. Viet Nam is our homeland and we're not gonna go anywhere but fight.
I don't know what is happening in Thailand, whatever happens in Thailand is not comparable to Myanmar. Civil war, military dictator and more than half of the country is on fire.
Actually in Vietnam many families are the mix of North and South factions and they all know and feel normal. They may quarrel with outsiders about history, about factions, but at home they are still happy and get along with the rest of the family even though they know that the other half has supported a different faction. My grandfather's brother used to support the South side, while my grandfather's family has always supported the North side, until now the two sides still stay connected and very familiar. I don't understand why, but I think part of it is that my grandfather's brother was not on the official payroll and did not directly participate in combat and was not in a high position in the Saigon system at that time.
I’ve lived in Saigon for 5 years. I’ve visited some of these places and spoken with people who survived. Their stories are living nightmares. Very sad....
@@DucPhamDuctator Nobody forget the communist crimes along decades ! Unknown by the foreigners brainwashed by the leftits supports o f barbarian commies ! You alone ?
I guess it's candid and true by North Vietnamese propaganda standards. No Americans went into North Vietnam, not wanting to risk what happened in 1950. By contrast, the NVA sent thousands South.
My dad would tell me about the atrocities committed against North about American soldiers and their brutality against civilians. This video truly tells people how the North wasn't as evil as they thought they were.
I never knew my great uncle was a Vietnam veteran until after he died when I was about 7. Every time I bring it up to my Grandma she says the only thing he ever said about being in the war was that “The worst thing they made me do was shoot innocent women and babies” That hurts my heart because lots of Americans did not want to be in Vietnam and in my Grandmas opinion we had no reason to be there
@Major Simmons That is true. American soldiers used to play a game, when they were being transported by truck. They would bet on who could shoot and kill the baby out of its mother's arms, as the truck was in motion.
No, he was not pressured into it, nor was it a direct order. It just reflected a general insanity prevalent among some soldiers there at the time. Many soldiers were sane individuals before they went over there and they were just driven insane by what they saw and what they had to do.
@@taino20 yeah I couldn’t imagine what one would go through seeing such things. Especially knowing he was drafted into Vietnam which most people thought was pointless to begin with. Imagine coming to the realization that you are being sent to die for no reason out of your control. Not trying to defend these actions by the way.
When the Vietnam war ended I was 12 years old. 5 years earlier I read a book on Ho Chi Min and could understand his goals. I was summoned to my schools headmaster for my bad behavior. My crime was to state out aloud that the Vietnam war was a lie and the Vietnamese only wanted freedom to rule themselves. The solders are not to blame but their leaders were. I stood my ground and many students and teachers had my back. I'm so glad the Vietnamese won their right to rule themselves and so sorry for all the lost soles on both sides. This war should have never happened. RIP to all who lost their lives.
common sense should always be praised in times of mass delusion, sadly I think we have again entered such times, though luckily it has not come with a war
@@erwin9065 this could actually be the case, history is always full of nuance, what I do know is that whilst not the most democratic country they never committed the peacetime atrocities of their neighbours, they also overthrew the red khmer terror regime and fought (admittedly it was only a half hearted and symbolic action) the Chinese invasion that started right after that, the ones manning the deffenses were in many cases women) (China seems to have realised that defending Pol Pot (cause he was in their sphere) was just not prudent but not doing something would signal that China does not honor its agreements and in fact is weak) the USSR sort of fell into that trap, they had guaranteed Vietnams indipendence from China as China had Guaranteed it for Laos, when China invaded Vietnam the USSR did nothing, which indeed made them lose face, which was very good for China as contender for leader of the communist world in the end the communist world is practically gone, but China has managed to end up as the number two economy of the world, though if you ask me they wil be lucky to maintain this position, an aging population, encroaching water and resource shortages, midle income wage trap, enduring high and low level corruption, the practical non existence of a social security system,... They wil allmost certainly remain highly relevant on the world stage but all of these will cause their growth to slow, stagnate or perhaps their economy may even shrink slightly, Japan was in a similar situation in the 90s I believe, economists were arguing when Japan would overtake the US economy, ofcourse nobody would take the claim that Japan is destined to become the world economic leader seriously today, but many are saying that China wil
@@istoppedcaring6209 sure China is strong but they are irresponsible in using their power to bully other countries. If VN had stayed capitalist people’s lives would be a lot better and they would be a major contender in the global market today like Korea.
As a Vietnamese citizen, I'm fully aware of how awful these wars were in regards of their impacts, even in today. Because my dad used to be a soldier fighting Mekong Delta in 1970s, he still made me think about the huge damage that the war gave to him. We all acknowledge that war cannot be the solution, it's just hurting innocent people's lives. These have gone pass but the lessons for today are never outdated to learn. That should be encouraged more for younger ones around the globe.
you are saying war isn't a solution , but your parents fought for their freedom where you are a free citizen , from the history we always see that when it comes about right war is the only solution , look in Palestine , is negotiating is a solution there ? it's war that's the only solution , history is written by the victorious that's what they say .
I have a Vietnamese friend. Her father had studied at university in America before the war in Vietnam. His role in working for the north Vietnamese army was to listen in to American radio communications and translate them - helping the North Vietnamese know where American troops were being deployed and their plans and requests for help.
@ThyPeasantSlayer But it didn't tho. If France had begrudgingly given Vietnam their freedom in the late 40s (Remember, at this point, Ho Chi Minh wasn't completely dedicated to Communism, but more national liberation), then there'd be even less of a chance for that to happen. The West could have gained a much-needed ally in southeast Asia in the form of an independent Vietnam, but instead spent 20 years killing people (And getting their own soldiers killed) for Vietnam to gain independence anyways.
It wasn't a matter of standing up *only* to France. He would also have had to stand up to an American citizenry and Congress that was under the sway of a very powerful anti-Communism political and propaganda machine.
@@mscmrdx6826 him and the rest of the Capitalist elite control everything. Only in Socialism do the people have the power. You, my friend, are the brainwashed one if you think we have any freedom or power in this Capitalist shithole of a country.
@ThyPeasantSlayer Even if you don’t like communism, no country has the right to determine another country’s choices. The United States has always used “spreading democracy” as it’s excuse to invade other countries. Vietnam is still socialist, and I hope one day they reach full communism. Capitalism is for the imperialist backwards countries such as the US, the UK, and France. Communism is true liberation of all people.
I learned a lot of vietnam playing civilization, while the vietnam war is indeed famous in pop culture I encourage everyone to research in their empire times, Vietnam has a rich culture and a lot of history to be proud of.
My dad (black American) fought in the Vietnam war while his mother was back home in Selma, Alabama fighting for our freedom. My dad use to tell me that a few times while fighting in the jungle he and a Vietnamese soldier would cross paths unexpectedly then stare at each other. The Vietnamese always seemed confused to why a black man from America was helping the white man fight. Even they knew we barely had rights, was mistreated & many killed by our own countrymen because of our color. Unfortunately, after the confused pause a quick decision had to be made.
@@ventnessflaw5332 HCM also wrote a pamphlet called it, "the Black Race." Him and Malcolm X shared the same birthdate. The man to me seems really cool.
@@ventnessflaw5332hãy đọc một vài câu chuyện về tay đấm bốc Mohamed Ali trong chiến tranh Việt Nam , bạn sẽ hiểu rỏ hơn về con người Việt Nam chúng tôi
The American’s knowledge about the root of the Vietnam war is too simple, so they make big mistake. The Vietnam war is not only just start in 1954 (Genever meeting in which some superpowers cut Vietnam become two parts) or in 1964 (American’s landing troop came). It’s started in 1858 when the French attacked and colonized our nation. The Vietnamese in that time just simply did what their ancestors had did in 4000 years with invasion forces such as: Chinese, Mongol, Manchu, Japanese and French v.v. similar with American in the war with England for their independence. Ho Chi Minh have no choice after US president Rooservelt and Wilson refused to help Vietnam but support the French (US bear 80% cost of war for French). In this case “the enermy of the enermy is the friend”, theirfore we had to find the support from USSR and China; But we still keep independence with them in our direction. The remainings is history in which the Vietnamese made a tremendous sacrifice for free their country. Thank godness now we have peace, unify and concentrate on developing our country . Honesty, Vietnamese don’t want to fight with anyone, we just want to live, work to earn, take care our young children and old parent, enjoy our life and make friend with other nations. God bless all nations in the world!
What a powerful story. Vietnamese people are legends. Always doing whats seems right for their people no matter what it will cost. Thats not about politics or power, just being able to choose their future. For me thats the definition of caring and courage
Well, their economic policies were Fucked up TBH. Sure, Communism is better than imperialism, but it is worse than Capitalism... Vietnam had more GDP per capita than South Korea just after both ended their wars.
The part about Massacring thousands of Vietnamese people and throwing them into ditches in Hue City because they would not follow the Hanoi government is indeed inspiring. As are all of the reoccurrences Of such atrocities by Vietnamese who knew what was best for other Vietnamese. Legends are distorted history made by people and most often lack facts. When you get finished slapping yourself on the back, go back and examine your legends ask why the Legendary Vietnamese never won a single battle again the US, China, or Japan. They just hung around, like the legendary mosquito does.
@@catmandu1957 yes they won the battles but they lost the whole war eh ? we didn't call ourself the strongest country or legend. But if yall wanna take our land and use it by your own good, one way or another we gonna kick yall ass out of our land
@@khangngo8004 Not if I’m in charge........because I would fight you as a strategist, not a politician. I would establish an end game strategy, something never done in Nam, Iraq, or Afghanistan and use Sun Tzu’s art of war strategy to take away the guerrilla tactics supplied by outside Sources. I would not play at war, and you would not even have an ass to kick. No running back to off limit havens like North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, or Pakistan. You didn’t beat the Japanese, you just ran away from them and they had too much on their plate. Believe me, if they wanted to Manchuria you, they were so much stronger that they would have taken away you hide holes. The Taliban were defeated in a month by an outfit called the Northern Alliance. A proper end game strategy would have dispelled the politicians of allowing a fake ally in Pakistan from giving the Taliban safe have to regroup. Even China played a political game in N Vietnam in 78 and invaded for a distance like they had done to India before and left declaring victory in their punitive excursion. Anybody can be beaten, by a determined foe using their head and knowledge of history. Ever think what would have happened to you if a Contra strategy in The North had been pursued while a fight between Russia and China had been instigated. Don’t get so uppity.....you can’t even keep China from taking anything it wants in the China Sea, even your islands.
As an American, I've been taught that this war was a futile effort to stop the spread of communism in an era where we felt greatly threatened by the Soviet Union's mass influence. Despite what idiots online might say, this was a war that we never have, and never will be proud of. It caused a massive divide in the country, soured our reputation, and costed the lives of many American soldiers that, unlike in WW2, didn't understand what they were truly fighting for and weren't prepared for what they were being sent into. My heart goes out to any Vietnamese families impacted by the war, and hopefully we can repair our relations in the many years to come 🇺🇸❤️🇻🇳
@@angtong5637 The us weren't even planning to take over, they were working with the north because they wanted to get rid of a communist leader and the gulf of Tonkin incident gave them reason to invade. They even openly supported a literal corrupt leader well on the path to dictatorship (Diem) because he wasn't communist
Robert Smalls so that more innocent people can be killed? Look i can get that u guys dont want communism to spread but staying there wont do any good,and a tons of other people across the world know that this war is useless and it dont bring anything except deaths and suffering to Vietnamese and Americans soldiers We could have done this a thousand times better had ur government acknowledged us but they dont so we just have to use communist as a tool to unite our people and hope for the freedom of the nation. Many many and many Vietnamese have forgiven the Americans and just wanted peace same goes for Americans wanted their soldiers back. Point being: this was a dumb war that shouldn't have happened but at the end of the day the two nation that fought for 20 years now is friendly again and we HOPED that this will never happened ever again
I grew up listening to my grandma's story of the war and it was horrifying. She told me how American bombers when they spotted our troops marching to the South, going across our village and bombed them along with many villages nearby, including ours. How the young soldiers desperately begged my grandma to allow them to get in her shelter, but she couldn't because the bombardment was still going on and she had a kid (my uncle) with her. Then she heard them screaming, running, praying and crying outside. How she and others went outside after every attack, to collect and bury the young lads' body parts scattering everywhere, many times the whole body was missing, only a part of it, like a arm, a leg or scarier, a head, was found and they got to go with that. I can still see some unknown graves, without a name, when I revisited my hometown. When she almost lost her son, my uncle, when a bomb exploded right in her yard and demolished every single thing in the house (my uncle was playing with other kids in the village entrance, my grandma ran home 3km from the rice field just to find out that). And how the American planes shot every villagers running outside, including women and children. That's right, like in Full Metal Jacket, and even scarier. There was a women, went working on the field, then she was informed that her son, who was still 8 yrs old, was shot by an American plane. After the tragedy, she went insane and died not long after. My grandpa was a engineer, taking part in designing the famous Hồ Chí Minh trail, so he rarely showed up at home during most of the war. My grandma, as a farmer, raised my uncle well, he even went to college, which was a huge huge deal at that time in Vietnam, even more impressive in a poor rural area like my hometown. My dad was born in 1974, ways after the bombardment stopped, so he never really experienced the war, as well as my aunt. It was incredibly difficult to understand every thing my grandparents went through during their young and middle ages, my grandpa passed away peacefully 3 yrs ago and now my grandma is enjoying her elder ages in the suburb of Hanoi.
@@descree7 But ofcourse... God sees everything. “Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?” - Isaiah 29:15 KJV
Don't say "war has no benefit" here! All for their own good! America's interests are spoken by Americans and Vietnam's interests are spoken by Vietnam. If there were no wars, would America be as rich as it is now? That's all, living in my life is the only one
@@davidduffield1713 Where? God knows the heart and souls of everyone. He knows the intentions of the soul. Make no mistake in thinking that all Christians will be saved. There will be plenty of people who profess to be Christians that won't make it into the kingdom of God.
Rest In Peace to all the Vietnamese who died in their pursuit of independence, and to the American soldiers, marines, and airmen who died for unscrupulous politicians.
@Jeremy H it’s all in the past??? Why don’t you tell that to the thousands of innocent Vietnamese civilians who died because of American war crimes? The country still suffers today because American politicians really can’t seem to mind their own business.
This gave me a great perspective on the Vietnam war, thank you for making this. I especially liked the info boxes on the side with additional info and facts
Wow, you give me, a vietnamese, more knowledge about our nation’s resistance. Many thanks for that. Btw, people should know that Vietnamese is a friendly nation, not an agressive one, we fought against the super powers just bc they want to take freedom from us. Now, amid covid 19 pandemic, we are handling it well and there’s no lockdown in the entire country. Visit us and we will show you our hospitality
Appreciate the offer, but I doubt Vietnam doesn't wanna beat the crap out of some Americans. Trust me, you don't want us in your country anyway, our people have become horribly dumb and easily brainwashed.
Learning about Ho Chi Minh expecting the US to help him fight the French, it gave me an idea for an alternate history story about where the US does exactly that; help Ho Chi Minh in his fight against the French and Chinese
Vietnamese leaders always remember the saying, "There are no permanent enemies or permanent friends, only permanent national interests." Therefore, throughout the 20th century, Vietnam fought against many enemies, some of whom were even former allies, such as China, for example. However, territorial integrity and independence have always been the highest goals.
"Because we do not beg for freedom, we fight for freedom." - Witold Urbanowicz Edit: My comment section became a political and racist argument in here, I just posted resilience quotes and this is what I get?
@Shane L saying black people don’t have human rights in the US is a pretty sad statement. I’m not saying there’s not racism but they sure as hell have human rights just like the rest of us. Don’t let the media get to your head man
@Shane L you know, it is people like you that further divide US even more. Why sow distrust and hate to each other instead of doing the opposite? You think colored people don’t have human rights? Have you checked what happened during the 60s? Today? Sure there’s racism and a**holes here and there, but life is much better, though more work need to be done, compared to those old days.
I get the meme value but a lot of people would say that authoritarian communism isn't freedom, but tyranny by a local. Which I suppose is better than tyranny of a foreigner.
As i was watching this video, a book i read flashed through my memory. 'The mountains sing' by Nguyen Phan Que Mai. It is one of the best novels i have read in a couple of years. The people of vietnam has gone through so much terror, violence, and several decades of war, something that is unparalleled in human history.
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@@scottyotty2hotty so the Vietnamese were simply pawns? What about the anti-French Resistance war? Was that also a proxy war that the Vietnamese had no interest in fighting and were simply directed by Russians, French or Americans?
“opinions will rage back and forth whether or not the us was justified” okay just ignore the declassification of the gulf of Tonkin in 1990 that states the false flag
I hugely respect this channels work, however I also find the fact this isn't mentioned at all quite worrying, certainly as it leads to the questioning of credibility in general of the channel. That seems unjustified in my judgement, but that isn't the case for everybody who watches. A historians core mission in society is to stimulate critical thinking on current day events & trends by using the past as a point of reference. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is one of my stock references in this, it deserves more context than given here....
Very true, he did. The issue is it is literally all that is said, only mentioned in passing as being a/the casus belli for the USA, nothing more. Only the mention of the CIA assasination just before could be seen as implying that the event was an American machination. However that is only so if you are already familiar anyway. The 'false flag' nature of the event isn't spoken about at all, which is all the stranger given it is the Vietnamese perspective given here... @ John Doe & @Dooly remarked the same thing btw.
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I do want to make a few additional comments as well:
- We do not claim that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a legitimate excuse for US intervention. The (second part of the attack) was fabricated as a means to go to war with North Vietnam. Secondly, I never stated that the US was ever justified in its intervention in Vietnam, in fact, I personally do not think the US was justified.
- We did not show the Ho Chi Minh quote at 7:34 in its full context, which is an honest mistake of ours. We fully take responsibility for that.
- We did not mention the use of Agent Orange, which we think would be a very interesting topic for a follow-up video. We regret not mentioning chemical warfare in this video.
Can you make more videos about other proxy wars and battles in the Cold War, such as the Bay of Pigs invasion, the Anglo-Franco-Israeli invasion of the Sinai and the Suez canal, the Korean war,, the afghan-soviet war, the Civil wars in Central America, the Angolan Civil War with Cuban and South African intervention, etc.
Could you maybe do an episode about the 1999 bombing of Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro)?
They are suggesting videos, so I will suggest only one: Something related to the middle ages, I mean I love XX century history, but variation is always better
Great vid
Greatly appreciated this documentation! I hope that the team can further complete the piece of the puzzle by shining a light towards the Third Indochina War which has been mostly forgotten in history. I'm looking forward to it!
so near the end u say that the domino theory was proved wrong because communism didnt spread to the rest of south east asia which i find confusing because i seem to recall both Laos and Cambodia becoming communist, and that Laos like Vietnam is still ideologically communist today
My grandpa is now 90. He's a Vietnamese. He fought the French since he was 13, then the Japanese when he was 15. He later on joined Viet Cong to fight the Americans. He was captured twice, brutally tortured (which resulted in 10 missing teeth and a bullet in his shoulders; the shrapnel still remains inside his body). He was released when the war ended, happily marched into the city of Saigon. The joy didn't last long. He marched towards the Northern border to fight of Chinese forces in 1979 and later joined the Expeditionary forces in Cambodia to fight Pol Pot. Of course he's now retired. His name is Nguyen Van Dong - alive and well. Three of his sons died during the war, two of them were only 9 and 10 when they died (of a bomb raid which hit their shelter). He grieved as much as anyone would when they lost their love ones. My mother is his 9th child, and also the last child. He kept a lot of medals inside his cabinet in the rural province of Ben Tre. He also kept a picture of me since I have gone studied abroad in Hungary. He said that he survived too many wars, and he hoped that he would also live until the day I returned which is 3 years from now. I love him more than anyone.
Update: he's still doing well, just received his 2nd jab. Still one year left to my graduation. Can't wait to see him!
Update: he’s doing well, should say he’s now 92. Grandma can’t hear well, so they can’t really talk to each other (without shouting). It’s sad to see how you can see each other, but can’t hear what the other says. I hope there’s a way to fix this.
Update: he’s currently undergoing extensive treatment from a stroke he had. It’s not promising ngl. He told me he’s gonna wait until the day I come back…
Last update: hi everyone, i hope anyone’s reading this is doing alright. It’s unfortunate to announce that my grandfather passed away yesterday in his sleep on the 30th of January 2023. He’s 93 years old. He couldn’t keep his promise of staying alive until the day i get back. It’s only 5 months left…I’m in a really bad place. I lighted a candle in a church in Vienna, hoping that he can rest in peace, always overlooking me as I grow up. I sincerely thank everyone for their kind comments. I guess this is the end of our story.
Additional update: this is a sad update. My grandma also passed away today, on 26th of March, 2024. She’s 90 and had dementia. I’m very sad but also somewhat relieved now that she can reunite with my grandpa, although I love her so so much. I would like to thank everyone again for their lovely wishes. Your attention makes their story so much more meaningful. I hope we can all carry their stories and memories to our heart so that they can forever live within us.
With much love,
Simon.
That's incredible, he's seen so much. Thanks for sharing, I'd love to visit vietnam, I hear it's beautiful.
@@Timoshemperoni You should. It’s relatively cheap, amazing food, friendly people. I’d advise you to spend only a couple of days in Hanoi or Ho Chi Minh. Spend your time more in some other regions as well because they’re really underrated. Hope you can make it.
@@leeqyocthai thanks very much, I hope too, as soon as this virus is contained and life is back to normal.
Lots of respect to your grandfather!
I will repeat what I have already commented under the video:
I am from the Czech republic and Vietnamese make up the third largest minority (after Slovaks and Ukrainians) since a lot of them came here to study when Czechoslovakia was still a socialist country and they decided to stay mostly due to the economic reasons. From my point of view they are very pleasant hard-working people adapting to the new enviroment better than the Arabs and Africans in Germany or France. Best wishes to your family and all Vietnamese people. 🇨🇿🤝🇻🇳
God bless your grandpa.
It’s still impressive how Vietnam faced off against giants like the French Empire, the Japanese Empire, the US, China, and on top of that still managed to invade and retain successfully Cambodia and stop a g$nocide. Simply impressive.
Oh, and mongols! They freaking outstanded two or three mongol invasions. I guess not even the mongols are exception in Vietnam
@@anobstinatecephalopod4605 iwtnamese general put giant spikes in the shore
Vietnamese have fighter spirits in them. Small country but hella bold when they try to protect their homeland.
Don't forget about the Mongols. They invaded Vietnam as well.
Also they survived the coconut pirates invasions
Vietnam had one strategy: you don't have to win, just don't lose. Outlasting the enemy, was the key.
Not true. The Tet offensive was a clear military victory.
The Vietnamese got that from another General who successfully threw off the Foreign rule from a distant Imperial power. I think his name was George Washington.
Yeah, that's attrition war for ya
General Westmoreland was confident that the US Armed Forces would win using the strategy of attrition warfare. For every American soldier killed, the US forces would kill 10 VC/NVA.
John Paul Vann, top US military advisor in Vietnam, calculated that to win in this fashion, the US of A would have to lose 500,000 dead and it would take 10 years to win. If North Vietnam had gone Total War and the Americans had decided to keep the war going using the same strategy, they would have to kill 5 million VC/NVA in 10 years time.
@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 only militarily for the US. Tet offensive demoralized the American public and had dire effects that eventually quicken the US withdraw.
Ho Chi Minh spent years in Western countries like the US, England and France and even in some African countries. He is not a guy that you would assume as being brainwashed but actually effectively fusing different ideologies. In the US he spent a long time observing the black rights movement and got in touch with many black leaders. Abraham Lincoln's ideologies heavily influenced Ho Chi Minh to the point that parts of Lincoln's speech about human rights were referenced in Vietnam Independence Declaration
Let's not forget that there is a quote of Washington in the Vietnam manifesto
You know the West is the protector of freedom of thought, therefore whoever thinks differently or contradicts them is not using their freedom to think, because no one free would think of thinking against them
Of all of the leaders to establish a movement and create a government in modern history, his record and beliefs are the most benevolent in my mind. Uncle was a fair and pragmatic leader who genuinely wanted a great future for EVERYONE in Vietnam. One Vietnam, One People. He spent a lot of time trying to unify the region, not just Vietnam and went to numerous peace talks, trying to court cooperation with the world during his days of exile and travel. The only stains on his record that I am aware of was the injustice enacted on farmers as the economy transitioned to a managed market economy as opposed to a state owned economy such as NK. The growing pains were hard and while not perfect, he is one of the few leaders who never murdered or mutilated his own population in the name of "freedom" or "development."
@@WhatWillYouFind Seriously wonder if South Vietnam reunification would have gone differently if Minh were still alive.
@@cifeymay not, the “1954 Geneva Conference” was broke by Southern one
With everything the world has done to Vietnam? They’re friendliness and welcoming nature has to be the 8th wonder. It’s incredible how optimistic and strong-willed they are as a people.
@Justus Immelmann I can't blame the Vietnamese for how they treated American POWs. They were fighting for their independence against a very unpopular regime (Propped up by foreign interests through oppression and corruption), and here come these foreigners who constantly bomb them and destroy their environment with chemical weapons.
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@Justus Immelmann problem is that's the literal truth no matter how you class it as "Commie Propaganda". Look if you want to be a US shill that's on you, but to actively deny a country's history is just plain idiotic. More so the fact that Vietnam isn't a communist country.
@Justus Immelmann Or you're the one who has been fed propaganda. If you're such a buff on the history of propaganda I'm sure you're familiar with The Church Committee and their findings. The fact of the matter is that US intervention caused untold hardship in both countries you mentioned, just as it did in Chile, Nicaragua, and still does in Colombia, Venezuela, and all parts of the Middle East, and that intervention is strictly for monetary gain, just as it was during the Banana Wars, the Philippines and so on. Capitalist imperialism is nothing new and it's only the extremely naive that could somehow believe all this foreign intervention is for the sake of benevolence or self-defense.
It's interesting that you also throw in the thinly veiled xenophobia of attacking the Viet Cong over war crimes when the United States' hands were just as dirty in that war. Perhaps better to realize that war is an awful thing that turns men into monsters no matter which side they're on and it's best to be avoided at all costs, instead of wasting countless lives and infinite money waging neverending war for the sake of arms-producers, news media, PMCs and other corporations.
The vietcong and south Vietnamese, USA all of them tortured ruthlessly and there is no good guy in this war.
“The Vietnamese people were confused why the Americans were invading and attacking them for no reason when they didn’t ever do anything to them...”. That narration hit me...
in that era it was the war for ideology dominance, now the US is in a new war of oil and lithium minerals.
@@Mike-oi2th it was also a competition for showing who’s boss which led to stronger trading power and thus more resources. So pretty much the same reason just under a different name
yep
my country was also confused why westerners randomly turned up and pretended to be nice to us
they were using it for shows when they were truly coming here to secure members for their battle for global superpower. good thing my country decided to become a member of the non-aligned movement
@@DISKEVIN speaking of war, china's military wouldnt dare to cause any trouble even though it only 2nd behind the US in term of military budget.
@@Mike-oi2th Wrong it's not a war for ideology, the dirty little secret is that the vietnam war was a war for cheap heroin so that pharmaceutical industry can make huge profits, thus leading to opioid crisis in the 2000s. Afghanistan is also another war for heroin. American soliders are guarding poppy fields in Afghanistan.
Omg finally someone posted history of Vietnam that’s not boring and actually helpful thank you!
Right? Tired of the nationalist perspective, i.e. "America beat the commies all the way back to their own shores. They beat the commies so bad that they let them stay communist cause they weren't even scurrd. Take that commies"
@@marinecor23 What... When has anybody ever said this lol?
@@marinecor23 Mostly all Americans, even the media acknowledge that we lost the Vietnam War
Yes
@@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 it's gotten better, still not gonna take the bitterness out of my mouth from what we were having crammed down our throats as "history" in grade school. 🙄😂😂
My mom's ancestor is Hoang Ke Viem, a general under Nguyen Dynasty. He lead people fought against France. Later on, the next generations always joined to fight against invasions. My mom old house used to be a weapon supply for Viet Cong. Her dad and other relatives are all soldiers.
It make me feel very proud about myself.
so you should be
Agree with you!
did she get executed in the land redistribution after 1945? many people supporting the Communist died in that campaign
Please let me give my respect for your family, the house of hero
imagine fighting for communism lol. The country is a shithole now. If North never took over South, South Vietnam would be similiar to South Korea.
The animation has definitely come a long way, love the content.
Still too much gratuitous swaying though.
It’s still trash lol nothing improved
@@KeysAndDoorss
Woah Hater alert.
Yeah it really has. I've been watching for a few years and it's quite obvious it has, especially the maps.
It's not supposed to be 100% life like and I think some mongoloids don't understand that and still attack it.
@@KeysAndDoorss then why are you watching?
“The Americans have freed us!”
“Oh I wouldn’t say freed, more like *under new management”*
14 N.Korean officers died in the Vietnam War. Thanks for your support. 🥰🥰
Oh Hi Kimmy western media was saying you got coma but you alive
How's the nuclear program Kim?
the human within No one won that war
@Johan T. Troff just basketball? can you say black people and get it over with.
This is great as it shows a perspective rarely asked about. Also when are we going to learn about the armchair?
I would like your comment but it is at 69 therefore I cannot. (nice)
The true mistery is, what's the history behind the armchair!
@The Clown nice
he says he's an armchair historian, but he probably can't even name 3 armchairs
Yea i came here for history of armchairs. I feel mislead. Cheated and absolutely lied too. Lol nah for real this channel is amazing, great info and entertaining.
When I was a kid, a friend of my father , who serves in Indian Navy , he narrated the Vietnamese freedom struggle , to date, i never forgotten....... I genuinely admire the courage of Vietnamese people.Moreover, it is now clear, that Nixon initiated the campaign to sabotage the My Lai massacre trials so no American soldier involved in the killings would be convicted of war crimes.
Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom.- Ho Chi Minh
The more I learned about this conflict and the context behind it. The more I learned that I didn’t know as much as I thought I did.
Yeah I know what you mean. Plus Vietnam gives a lot of inspiration for better or worse, about how a people of a country can be determined and by willingly to fight for what they believe in. Just look at countries such as Afghanistan. The Soviets were there for a decade from 1979 to 1989 and now the US has been there for 20 years! From 2001 to now.
@Sterling Archer the soviets & Russians where in Vietnam from 73-75 why America pulled out,
@Sterling Archer look up indo China war, it’s where it really started, the French had Laos Cambodia & Vietnam,
Also America helped Vietnam in WW2 by training & giving arms, Oss now known as today as CIA
Trained hoi chi meng
If you haven’t watch Ken Burns the Vietnam war. It’s long but it’s the best and most accurate Vietnam documentary I’ve ever seen.
@@macmiller1678 I’m a check it out, this guy left a lot out, my uncle fought in Laos in 1968-1971
Vietnam survived on its own against imperialist Japanese, French, American, and Chinese forces; and then went on saving the Cambodians from the genocidal UN-backed Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge while suffering from vicious economic sanctions. What a remarkable feat of determination and goodwill!
The Khmer Rouge wasn't really backed by the UN as a whole just largely communist leaning countries and was a puppet of China hence why they tried to invade Vietnam in the 70s. Not sure if you are calling the Americans imperialist or not though but they aren't.
@@noticedruid4985 The US also supported pol pot so...
@@noticedruid4985 The CIA funded Pol Pot & had agents in his 'peoples militias' Pol Pot only got to power because of the CIA, too.
The US is most definetly imperialist, and always has.
Wow , i mean that is true but most people don’t even know that . They always rely my comments like “North Communist Party” are too aggressive and invaded countries that ARE US ally . And all actions Americans did is RiGHT , to stop communism, help ally , give them strength... but failed to save xD
@@noticedruid4985 the US coerced Thailand into sheltering Pol Pot remnants after they were driven away by Cambodia so they could stage guerilla warfare against the Vietnamese and the new Cambodia government. They also provide naval and intelligent support to the Chinese during China invasion into North Vietnam and promise to step in if the USSR decided to retaliate.
As a Vietnamese, my dad always has a funny saying: "The invaders of Vietnam never won, because there was nothing to win in Vietnam!"
This is because Vietnam was a very poor and rural country, if there was an invasion, Vietnamese would burn down their straw huts (which are flammable) and run to the South. The invaders never got anything from the invasion.
Vietnam were always the underdogs, but they had determination!
Oh you are a Vietnamese too hello bạn
@@Fj-OuterSans Alo!
I like you guys a lot, i have a few viet friends and they are amazing! Keep strong we look at you whit sorrow from Russia.
Quan Le bạn khỏe ko
@@FIRE_STORMFOX-3692 thanks guy, hope u well. Love from Vietnam
My aunt died in the Vietnam war, the reason is ridiculous: US soldier asked her if she know where VC soldiers are, she cant reply cuz she dont know any english, then they shoot her, this year, my father was only 2 yo. My grandmother told me she was so good, she took care everyone, everyday. Now i am 28, she still 10. Rest in peace, aunt! I dont know your face, but i heard all your story and i know i love you aunt
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Quê chú vùng nào vậy
Miền tây à ?
Lmao, I physically spit my drink out while reading this. Thanks for the laughs
@@gold-uzkon-user1697why tho
@@gold-uzkon-user1697this is real though
@@gold-uzkon-user1697 It's not funny.
My grandpa fought the French, my uncles fought the American and Polpot (Red Khmer), my father fought in Chinese invasion (80s), so I can imagine the wars through their stories. And my father always say that after going through wars, we Vietnamese appreciate peace even more.
Amazing family history.
@@twohooks3533 It is normal in Vietnam. Thank you anyway. I'm really proud of my family.
I respect you learning from my family past I think about hate and suffering during that war but for now I think continue moving forward love your family and friends I hope you have good day. from Vietnamese American
I bet your father mentioned nothing about Land Reform or Cultural Revolution. Those things happened during "Peace" time.
I grew up listening to my father's stories everyday, until one day reality slapped me in the face and told me that "Your father's stories are b****, wake the f***k up".
Vietnam was one south part was under colonialism and then under American .
I was lucky enough to perform about 5 years ago for a ceremony with Vietnamese industrial leaders and the US Ambassador at an event in Hanoi. It was to celebrate ‘40 years of the normalization of trade’ between to the two nations and my band was a mix of Memphis musicians and Vietnamese musicians. My family had veterans from the war and I felt it was a full circle moment to share music and arts in peace. Thanks for the amazing content.
I think it was a a bit less than 40 years. That would have been on 1980. I was in HCM/Saigon in 1994 when President Clinton ended the trade embargo. Pepsi rolled out free soda to lots of people. According to the US State Dept website relations were normalized in ‘95. www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-vietnam/
@@RobPetty622 cool. Thanks for the info. Well, I guess it was some type of celebration then of that 95 agreement which would make since to be 20 years not 40 years cuz I was there in 2015. Ford and FedEx reps and some other companies were there and I met the US ambassador and his husband (yes, he had a husband and they were so cute)
I worked for JC Penneys for 10 years until 2005. I would research inventory and contact vendors and do price changes. Suits purchased from Vietnam for $53 were being sold for $325 - $475. Capitalism and slavery at its finest.
That is so cool
A stardard ration of Vietnamese troops was 8 pound of rice, salt, and anything u could find in the jungle. My grandfather plattoon happened to stumble on a US ration package with a can of Spam and that was just their best day ever
Vietnam might be the best country I’ve ever visited in terms of cost vs standard of living. It’s a very nice country full of awesome people.
Welcome to Vietnam. Hope to see you again in Vietnam. Love from Hochiminh city
Thank You❤
My mother was was a student in one Moscow university at that time. She remember seeing multiple Vietnamise people living in there dorm aswell. She didn't know who they were. May be exchange students. They looked a little bit old for students. One time she was bored so she went to a cinema club in their student dorm. There was only her and 1 Vietnamese guy. The move was "Cranes are Flying
" - a tragic soviet movie about ww2, where girl is waiting for beloved one to come back from frontline but he died. At the end of the movie my mom saw sietnamese guy started to cry. Movie was sad but, she saw that it resonated a lot with him. She asked if he is ok, and why he is crying. He said that he was vietcong soldier and has been fighting for most of his life. For his action he was promoted and send by the communist party to Moscow to get higher education. That he is almost 50 years old while average age of living in Vietnam at that time was 60. He didn't have much time to live and was f%cking tired of war and this education he needed to get, and the only thing he wanted was peace and be left alone. That was a heavy for my mom. WW2 ended before she was born and Vietnam was something very distant and informed only by state media in a way of "glorious and patriotic working people of Vietnam are fighting against imperialist aggression". And here he was - tired and broken man, having his life devastated by the war
The man could've been Ho Chi Minh himself. But we'll never know
Your the realist one on this bs comment section
@Disney Asia Official you missed the point
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I wonder people commenting below really read your comment. Lol. They thought you are praise the North but in fact, it was the opposite. One particular is Disney Asia Official. I found this really funny.
My history teacher told us about a meeting between US and Vietnamese veterans decades after this war. The US veterans asked their former enemies why they were so willing to fight and die for communism. The Vietnamese veterans responded: "We were not fighting for communism, we were fighting for Vietnam."
I'm a US Navy veteran, served in the Gulf war. Now that I know alot of things I didn't then, I am completely anti war. I get ALOT of crap from fellow veterans of all ages when I ask them...."who invaded whose county and for what reasons exactly?" And "If China ( or any other large military) showed up on OUR shores and brought us "freedom" and "liberty" by blowing up our cities and killing civilians, would we not fight back?
@@voiceofreason1208 Most wars are fought over resources and to maintain the power of the ruling classes not over morality and giving aid to other human beings. And yes I include all under that banner of the ruling classes, political left or right, culturally east or west, christian, muslim, whatever religion, whoever has the power wants more power and wealth and above all to safe guard that power and wealth.
the vietnamese should of asked the yanks why they where so willing to go and kill and risk dying in a country that was not theirs?
@@MusMasi and the same answer would likely be for the freedom of the Vietnamese people.
@@MusMasi cause white people stay tryna be in everybody's businesses lmfao
I'm Vietnamese. Thank you for all of your hard work studying and sharing my country's bloody and brutal history to the world.
Btw, this channel's animation is on point. He even got the Vietnamese version of Ho Chi Minh's Declaration of Independence.
I don't know that Vietnamese girls are this much beautiful as you. OMG you are so pretty 😍😍
@@debarghyaghosh1263 stop! Don't you dare to do that
@@debarghyaghosh1263 You actually wrote this under a comment like this under a video like this... Do you even think before you comment?
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@@lpflore what I have said wrong ? Whats the problem to say someone beautiful ?
I'm currently visiting Vietnam, and just visited the war crimes museum in Ho Chin Minh. The pictures are heartbreaking. I can't take them out of my head. I'm not American, or from any country that colonized Vietnam, but the stories and pictures in that museum just makes me want to apologise to the Vietnamese people on humanity's behalf.
When I was growing up in USSR in the 80s and 90s people used to collect stamps. Many of these stamps were from VietNam and probably 90% of them had images of Vietnamese art depicting Vietnamese fighting the war, and various scary pictures of war.
Interesting comment.
Is it true that the USSR isn’t that bad of a place that the west depicts it?
@@rusty3073 Depends on the time you meant, but in general according to my family - yes, it was not an actual padadise of course, but it wasn't that bad as western historians claims it was. Unfortunately with current attempts to rewrite history this claim is true only if there're a lot of witnesses left, who actually lived in the USSR and knew it from personal experience instead of history textbooks. But things will change in a future, when there's no one left. Even in Russia today there's a big difference of opinion between people who was born in raised in the USSR and who was born later, can't imagine what people in the west is thinking on the subject when the only source they can rely on is their history textbooks. I can at least ask my family and there's no reason for them to lie to me, can't really say the same about historians.
@@strongpoke Would you believe that Russia is better off with the USSR than the Federation today?
@@strongpoke And what makes you sure that they aren’t being biased about it?
Vietnam: Can we have freedom pls
France and Japan : Yesn't
"This is freedom! With extra steps-"
@@callumander4141 ok did I
ask if it was cringe?
@@callumander4141 Kids who call judge and call others “cringe” lack self awareness. No, you arent cool and quirky sorry not sorry
@@callumander4141 not cool or quirky
@@callumander4141 Not his fault you self report too much
The Vietnamese youth could still drop their tears every time when watching the kind of this video or something else that's similar. At least one of us had at least a family member who had died of the war in the past. The US had not even understood that Vietnam has 2.000 years of history fighting against invaders namely China, France, Japan and we have always won to hold back our freedom. Sadly, we had had to sacrifice a lot for nothing that we had done to the powerful countries.
Lol you Vietnamese are only proud of one thing .
@@a_l7515 stay away uneducated kid, go home, self-isolated and learn more about Vietnam
@@replyorratioifugaysaycrymo1684 Both you and A_L are wrong 😑
@@kiemtoankhue9479 commies
@@a_l7515 ok then what are you proud of then? a long history of racism?
As an American soldier I will say this. God bless you Vietnamese. Brutal history, most unassuming people, and yet one of the best fighters on the planet. You have my respect
Funny because I doubt they respect you lol
@@_____..______340 On the contrary..Vietnamese people despise the growing crimes committed by the US Armed Forces, but after all this time, I think that every Vietnam veteran would see a soldier, an American veteran, as a former enemy, but also a companion in the same hell that they both went through..If they Russian/Soviet soldiers who "ran" half of Europe from Stalingrad and conquered Berlin, could shake hands and sympathize with ordinary German soldiers, members of the Wehrmacht (not the Waffen SS, they were beasts) in the early 1990s, and that was a world war, war to the point of extermination (if the Russians had lost, they would have disappeared as a nation!), I think that the veterans of a regional, difficult and tragic, but still regional war - could find understanding for each other. Wars are started by old men in armchairs, politicians, and ended by guys and men in the trenches, on both sides of which there is usually a similar hell during the entire course of the war, only the end is different (for the winner and the defeated)..
Many American said no to Vietnam War in that time. Vietnamese respect them and you, of course.
Fun fact: today Vietnam is supplied by America by trade and America also is defending Vietnam to counter China's influence in the South China Sea
@@Eea247America is a joke😂
My grandfather and his best friend participated in the Polpot war in Cambodia. When the war ended, he went home with an amputated leg and his friend also lost an arm. The sad thing is that many of his friends have gone and will never return. Not only that, after the war, harsh sanctions were imposed on Vietnam, leading to the next generation living in poverty and hardship. Until now, being at peace and living in true freedom, I feel extremely grateful for the blood and blood sacrifices of my ancestors.
Your grandfather and friend did great things, they liberated Cambodia from a horrible man, I'm just a Colombian guy but I have a lot of respect for the Vietnamese people, I hope that one day there will be eternal peace
This is gonna be cringe to say and you may don’t like me, I respect you and listen to both North And South Vietnam soldier different point of view more better than one side on usa point of view. Hope you have good day dude and your grandpa doing well. From Vietnamese American.
@@GUNROCKS1990 don't worry it isn't cringe
@@GUNROCKS1990 you are right dude north vietnamese people eat too much propaganda and there are a loooot of their comments here it just sad to watch
@@Suwkng we have the north and you dont. End of the conversation
The Vietnamese defeated the Mongol Empire attacks as well. Badass neighbors.
Greetings from the Philippines.
I afroud of My country . Look like my country verry famous with you guys ..
Yup. Badassery at its finest.
@alo alo cmon man terrain or not many couldnt acheve a similar feat
@alo alo yeah like we kind of let the Mongols in for a few times (abandoning the cities, poisoning the water sources, cutting their supply routes and intercepting their supply sources) and then finally strike them at their weakest. And the Mongols fell for that 3 times (1258, 1285 and 1287-88)
@alo alo it the people who use the terrain. American was also struggling with the tree..
Vietnamese is an exemplary and inspiration to patriotism. I am so proud to be able to visit your beautiful country.
Its a late reply but on the behalf of Vietnamese I would like to thank you. If you have a chance please feel free to visit us again.
@@HuyPham-km9kn I’m American and I would just like to say that i love Vietnam. You went against all odds against Imperialism and Tyranny and liberated your people. Thank you.
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Hope you enjoyed your stay
Were the South Vietnamese that fought for their freedom and massacred by North, 'patriots' as well?
I still remember my grandma's stories about the war she experienced in the past. It was really horrible. My grandma had many narrow escapes from death. She has an elder brother and she is heartbroken whenever she tells me about him. He died while fighting at Quang Tri Citadel which is called "the meat grinder". He was extremely happy the day he could go and fight for his country. He said that fighting all his heart for his country is worth it even if he could die. I still can't imagine how I would be if I were born at that time
ចោរវៀតណាម😂😂
You guys are just land thieves. robbed everything from us prone to violence You guys are worthless in our eyes
@@សំណាង-ច9ស your comments is nonsense
@@សំណាង-ច9ស Thái Lan hèn nhát trước quân đội nhân dân Việt Nam 🇻🇳🤣
@@thuyyouto Cambodians have the longest history in the world. And our country is developing, our future will be more prosperous than Vietnam. Vietnamese people will envy us. That's the truth 🤗🇰🇭✌️
I work with Vietnamese people, and they are the most friendly people I know. Always have a smile on, and willing to help you no matter what!
"Why is a mother airplane dropping baby airplanes. " That hit different.
@@Corgi_fax You see, when an aircraft ordinance technician and strategic bomber pilot love each other very much......
Because She wanted to decrease monthly expenses
B 57s were not used in Nam, btw.
and maybe because she forgot to use protection
@@DawnOfTheDead991 are you sure about that?
Vietnam: I thought America would help liberate us from the oppressors....
Neigbhoring Philippines:
*F i r s t t i m e ?*
Great comment. Laughed out loud !
Emilio Aguinaldo was a douche. If he wasn’t, Philippines would’ve be pre-Vietnam. (Yes I know Vietnam had foreign support, but the Philippines did get foreign support from Japan)
We would then be speaking Spanish instead of English
US policy was always to give the Philippines their independence and it became law to due so in 1935. The Philippines were a few years from getting their independence when the Japanese invaded. We possessed Cuba too after the Spanish American War and they became independent in 1902.
@@hamanakohamaneko7028
Philippines have foreign support....
Which sank en route due to a storm, together with all the rifles and the ammunition🤣👌
As a foreigner recently living in Vietnam, I am realising that there is so much about Vietnam propagated in the West that is (perhaps unsurprisingly) one-sided and bias, but has managed to linger in popular culture for so long. Uncovering it myself in-situ has been eye-opening and videos like this help greatly.
Kudos to this video for highlighting the century of conflict (indeed millenia considering the Chinese) that Vietnam has endured. Context is everything and so much context is missing from the West's understanding of Vietnam.
As an example, the most surprising for me was Vietnam's subsequent fight *against* the Khmer in Cambodia, which was another communist regime. Communism is used so liberally to paint over what are complex situations, so I'm glad this video finished by saying that the underlying motivation of the Vietnamese was that of unification and liberty, adding much-needed context to what is typically seen as a one-dimensional story.
Are you insane? Most 'western information' about the War is sympathetic to the North Vietnamese.
They only clashed because Khmer Rouge believed after Khmer Issarak, and Laos Issarak (freedom fighter rebels) help Vietnam defeated U.S, Ho Chi Minh agenda changed toward the non Vietnamese rebel groups and believed he wanted to unifed Indochina under Vietnam policy ( to fight off their number one enemy China).
Khmer Rouge believed Vietnam was setting up puppets / agents in the Khmer Rouge camp to overthrow their party. This lead to slaughtering innocent Cambodian civilans and murdered 4,500 Vietnamese mention in history. Khmer Rouge was close with Viet Minh. They also trained Khmer Rouge until 1970.
Pol Pot also relocated majority Khmer population to the countryside after U.S illgeally bombed neutral Cambodia in Ho Chi Minh Trail. ..
@@sppro994 America tried to cover for the Khmer Rouge specifically to get even with losing to the Vietnamese. Henry Kissinger is a war criminal who protects other war cirminals.
Newsflash. White people were all over the planet 😅
Start reading 😂
We were just simple rice farmers who were trying to be free from the slavery of the french. Sensing that we were close to winning our freedom, they went and asked for helped from their big brother america. I thought america was against slavery but it turns out they decided we needed to remain slaves to the french. I'm not sure how but the clever americans convinced half our country to turn on each other with a brainwashed puppet leading them.
We now had to fight against a Massive godlike force that had metal birds that dropped fire from the skies. They say you dropped more ordinance on us than all of WWii combined. You burned our people with napalm. But the worst is that you poison us with agent orange which i found our had devastating affects on a persons dna, causing cancer and deforming babies. Your hatred of us even extends to the next generation. Good cover up saying that you were using it to try and clear the trees.
You wiped out nearly 4 millions civilians and the real numbers could be a lot higher, we're not sure because your carpet bombing just eradicated the land of everything, corpes wouldn't even remain because of the sheer ammount of bombs shredding the earth. We can't count bodies if you completely erase everything.
So to survive we literally had to dig into the earth and live like worms, it was our only way to survive. But that wasn't enough for you, you couldn't bare the thought of us being free and would rather end us than to let that happen so you chase us into the ground to finish us. The worst part is you try to praise us saying that we used them for ambushes but any decent intelligent person would ask why would we risk exposing the extrance to our final last safe place and our families?
You used the civilians as meat shields because you knew we wouldn't shoot at our own innocents people, while you slaughtered everyone you came across. The stories I would hear about how you would play out your darkest fantasies saying you would make the nazi look innocent in comparison. You people are truly evil. You tried to claim our little fishing boat attacked your giant metal warships. How? With what?
You weren't trying to stop communism, you were just flexing how evil americans can be.
For our people, I hope they don't learn the truth of the horrors you committed. I don't have any hatred left, I'm just now scared. I'm scared of how evil you are.
What did we do to deserve this?
*"All we wanted was peace, but the only choice that we had was to fight for it. After many sacrifices, it was finally over. The dream of a peaceful time has come true."*
If all you wanted was peace, all you had to do was lay down your arms. All American was there to do was prevent communism.
A little more context on that helicopter crew as that man desrrves to be recognized for his actions. This story was told to me during my service when we were discussing lawful orders.
Hugh Thompson was a reconnaissance helicopter crew tasked with flying over a village to determine if their harbored pro-vietcong sentiment. During this time all he saw was the bodies of Vietnamese civilians murdered by US forces. He then took his helicopter and landed in the line of fire of american troops and aimed their guns at the perpetrators to prevent more killings. After approaching the leadership and preventing more bloodshed he then was able to convince the civilians to leave their bunkers to be evacuated and flew a young injured child to a hospital (those reconnaissance helicopters dont have much room). Afterwards he announced on radio: “It looks to me like there’s an awful lot of unnecessary killing going on down there. Something ain’t right about this. There are bodies everywhere. There’s a ditch full of bodies that we saw. There’s something wrong here.” and filed a report that helped create a cease fire.
Later, he would testify against multiple U.S. army personnel and continued to fight to get justice. For his efforts he recieced death threats, people would leave dead animals on his porch, he ended up divorced with severe PTSD.
this comment needs more like to push up the top
i can see why people would send death threats, but why the dumping of animal corpses on his porch? whoever did those should realize that in their pursuit to prove their point, they became as vicious as the US invaders
My Lai is used as a case study at Sandhurst. Everyone in the British army will know this story. Incredibly brave.
The worst thing of war is when good men do nothing.... Thompson wasn't one of those men to do nothing
Vâng .Đó là vụ thảm sát Mỹ Lai.
Honestly the more I learn of Vietnam, the more I gain admiration and respect for the Vietnamese people.
Thank you , love from Vietnam to you .
Same, all the best for Vietnamese
The more I learn about vietnam more Im disgusted by crimes of vietcong that hundred times outweighted US. Lets talk real history.
@@17MrLeon Tell us your real history then. With accurate proof and evidence of course.
@@17MrLeon Right you're historian then , mind give me the source of it , or all the documentary you found is one-side and those document always said USA is hero to stop Communism , Am I right ? So what is your thoughts about military ops that bring B52 and ton of bombs dropped into innocent civilian , and yet that is not enough for the US , how about Ma Lai ?? what is your opinion about landing troops on foreign's lands , will you call it invading ? And did you watch the video ?
Thank you for this. Even as a child growing up in the US, I never understood why the Vietnamese were always portrayed as evil commies when they really had no choice. They wanted freedom. They helped the US in WW2. And then were led back into colonialism when the French came back.
They were freedom fighters trying to fight off foreign invaders who wanted to exploit their people and land. The French and US government forced them into the arms of communism.
Đúng vậy, Tôi là người Bắc Việt. Thực tế ngày xưa trình độ văn hóa của người dân Việt Nam rất thấp, Không biết Cộng Sản là gì. Chỉ biết là muốn đánh đuổi Người Pháp cai trị hà khắc Việt Nam lúc đó, (Chủ nghĩa đế quốc - tình hình chung thế giới lúc đó).
Đến ngày nay cũng vậy. Vì vậy người dân nước tôi chỉ đánh vì Việt Nam chứ không biết chế độ là gì.
Tôi lấy làm rất tiếc khi Hoa Kỳ đã không giúp Việt Nam đuổi người Pháp đi. Nếu Hoa Kỳ thực sự muốn thay đổi chế độ cộng sản ở Việt Nam, Thời điểm đó là rất thích hợp và hoàn toàn có thể. Lúc đó chế độ của Việt Nam sẽ được như Phương Tây - Mỹ ngày nay. (Nói thật có rất nhiều điểm trong chế độ của các bạn mà người Bắc Việt và Nam Việt chúng tôi rất thích, Nhất là ngày nay đang toàn cầu hóa ). Và thời điểm đó tổng thống của Việt Nam sẽ là Hồ Chí Minh rất khôn ngoan để giữ vững Việt Nam và giúp đỡ Hoa Kỳ như 1 đồng minh Uy tín thật sự.
Nhưng Mỹ vì "sợ" đối đầu với Pháp nên đã chọn Pháp thay vì Việt Nam. Sau đó thì khi Pháp thua chạy thì những người cầm Quyền Mỹ lại "tham lam" muốn thay thế Pháp ở Việt Nam. Quả là 1 chính sách đi vào lòng đất và sai lầm nghiêm trọng của Mỹ.
all you said were true except for the WW2 one
Finally some few american who are truly educated and are not delusional.
@@dcmessitinh5854 bạn nói trình độ văn hoá thấp là sai rồi, chính Pháp là kẻ thực hiện chính sách ngu dân, chia để trị, và để dân ta mù chữ trong khoảng tgian bị xâm lược, còn trình độ phần lớn VN lúc trc khi bị xâm lc theo Nho giáo nên rất coi trọng việc học nhé
American General: any village you encounter is a free firing zone
Vietnam General: we just recruited 10,000 men with zero effort
Interesting how when yankees killed unarmed Vietnamese rice farmers, the numbers of Viet Cong didn't go down, but _up_
Aand it didn't reduce the motivation of the guerrillas, it increased it
@@aurin_komak My comments might show some bias towards Vietnam bc well i'm still vietnamese but ye, we dont really care about communism or capitalism. We just want to see our families be able to live happily. That is a large factor in Vietnamese morale during the time, seeing the bombing only ignited us more to die for the sake our families being able to live in peace. Because if it was true that we are fighting solely for whatever communism is we would have already fallen XD
The modern version:
American General: any village you encounter is a free droning zone
Iraqi General: we just recruited 10,000 men with zero effort
Yep. South Vietnamese generals recruited many men eager to defend Vietnam from the Communists.
@@tedmccarron And when the commies came to Saigon, they all dropped their gears and uniforms and ran instead of resisting. Yeah, very eager. The Germans put up way better resistance than them.
I visited Hanoi and Da Nang in 2017. I met very nice and smiling people. Hope this pandemic could end soon, because I want to return to visit my beloved Vietnamese friends. A big hug and warm greetings from Italy! 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳 🇮🇹 🇻🇳
Thanks so much
Welcome🌞
Yo, ill happily be your guide
The pandemic isn't preventing you from doing what you want to do, the government is.
@@miketexas4549 italian government has prevented us to travel, and also to work (for unvaccined people) I suggest you to get informed, before speaking about the -so called- western world ☹️
Ask the Vietnamese about "The Vietnam War", and they will ask "which war"?
They've had at least 4 wars in the 20th century.
EDIT Feb13th2021: Wow at 1.3K Likes. Just for repeating what some Vietnamese I've spoken to would say.
@ChuoiChuoi The U.S. should have kept its nose out of your country's business. All the horrific killing and for what? I just don't understand. I've never understood it. And they're still at it. Iraq, Afghanistan, the horn of Africa, Yemen.
@@tachyontee3877 its nature, not about America , not about China, not about Russian,.. particularly. Its all about nature, if Vietnam getting strength like Japan in Ww2 they will start to do some imperialist stuffs
@@hopha1403 Yeah, I guess so. Humanity is corrupt.
@@tachyontee3877 Vietnam didn't keep it's business out of Cambodia which led to millions dying
@@LogosTheos Still not the U.S.'s business. Those two countries should have dealt with it. Keep reaching. You might pull a muscle.
My daughter Emily is living and working in Vietnam and tells me she feels very safe there. Lovely people who just want to get on with their lives.
Ê-mi-ly, con ơi!
Trời sắp tối rồi...
Cha không bế con về được nữa!
Khi đã sáng bùng lên ngọn lửa
Đêm nay mẹ đến tìm con
Con sẽ ôm lấy mẹ mà hôn
Cho cha nhé
Và con sẽ nói giùm với mẹ:
Cha đi vui, xin mẹ đừng buồn!
Until westerners came and destroy their lives
Until westerners came and destroy their lives
As Russian who studying Vietnam I can say, that from my perspective Ho Chi Minh was not only the best example of communist, but also one of the best national leaders. He devoted his life to find a way to free his country.
О, привет, товарищъ! А я смотрю ролики от Клима Жукова про Вьетнам и просвещаюсь
@@jennywhat6108 смотрю все про Вьетнам ибо это долг вьетнамиста)
@Greene Bertrand yep, sorry
You could add Giap, who started the fight with a dozen soldiers and built up an army of hundreds of thousand, beating major powers in the process.
hi Russian friends
Hugh thompson was the pilot who rescued the civilians and threatened the his fellow American infantry men that they will be fired upon by his gunners if they didn’t stop the May Lai massacre. He is a true American hero.
Finally Vietnam war that’s not from the American perspective
Please try the Ken Burns doc on vietnam. It covers all THREE sides.
It really is though. It's all about the Vietnamese soldiers and whatnot, completely forgetting that the South Vietnam army fought against the north in what was a Civil war
@@loganholmberg2295 North Vietnamese, South Vietnamese and US, comrade?
@@comradekenobi6908 i think thats what he means
@American Medusa americans are biased
There are two things of vietnamese which may suprise the foreigner, 1. vietnamese parent never teach children to hate someone who hurted us in the past. 2. Vietnamese love their family too much, loving is the only thing we was teached after wars, so, we fighted only for what we love, it is not because of what we hated.
❤
Quá sâu sắc
Nailed it!
americans should learn from the vietnamese
when everyone is talking about how the vietnamese are in the trees, but the tunnels are their most vital advantage.
*edit wow thanks for the likes, never thought it'd get this far*
@Linux4win *the trees are in the tunnels*
*A tree is just nature tunnelling into the sky*
The sky is tunneling down to earth
Nice flag
Tunnels were not an advantage. It was an achievement. Trees, mountains and marshes were natural conditions
Dear Griffin Johnson
You claim to be an armchair historian, yet you have not produced a single video on Armchairs.
- Your fans
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I agree, I have watched hours and hours of these videos with no sign anywhere in regards to the history of armchairs! This is an outrage!! My feelings are hurt!!
Griffin Johnson: "OOOHHH what a humiliating defeat, i know when I am beat. So of course take a seat."
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Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom!
Quá chuẩn luôn
Bạn là Viễt Cộng phải không?
@@goosebump91 Vừa là Việt cộng vừa là wibu
@@khanhanquoc5226 wibu nghĩa là gì vậy bạn?
Yup
Reading this brought tear in my eyes. I’ve been three times in Vietnam, and I love this country. Wish you all the best, a child of a real hero.
Comeback, we feed you Pho and ice coffee
@@HuyPham-km9kn 😂
The French did not like Nazi occupation. As soon as they were saved one of the 1st things they did was to reoccupy Vietnam.
Wonderful example of political hypocrisy.
The same thing happened later in Algeria.
France in WW2: "Those Germans will never go throught the Ardennes" Germany: Goes through the Ardennes France: *surprise Pikachu face*
France in Dien Bien Phu: "Those Viet Minh will never go through the mountains with artillery" Viet Minh: Go through the mountains with artillery France: *surprised pikachu face*
@Dank Memelord You are half right, half of France did not like Nazi occupation the other half collaborated with them
It's quite obvious that Freedom is a luxury that the French likes to keep for themselves.
Can you make a video about the Emu war. But from the Emu's perspective.
Lol😂
With dialogue entirely made in Emu too.
They tried shooting us with machine guns. Little did they know that we Emu are surprisingly resistant the machine gun fire. Through this lack of understanding our victory was assured!
"Sir they have a truck with a Lewis machinegun. What are your orders?"
"Just keep running, Emus. Oh, and you must get yourself caught in the steering wheel too so we can stop it."
So anyway they started blasting
The part where Ho Chi Minh is doing his speech about “...life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” while two American OSS stand behind him as allies is just so ironic.
@Justus Immelmann What are you saying? Are you sympathetic to the German cause? If you are, then this signs to me a red flag. Please elaborate.
@@DarkxV12 tbh we wouldbe been better off if we didnt stop the democratic socialists in germany durong ww2. the communists and globalists gained major control of the world then
@@FilthyGoyim You mean the one that the Nazis and the Commies hate since 1918?
@Lady Bug love This is the correct answer. The rest of you can shut up with your received rationales.
@@stevek8829 Mao taught Ho a lesson?? The objective was to get the Vietnamese to withdraw from Cambodia which failed, Vietnam remained there until 1989. Though both claimed victory when the Chinese withdrew after a bloody war, most historians agree that it was a humbling experience for the Chinese as it was for the US before them.
"We would rather sacrifice everything than lose our country, definitely refuse to be slaves! Nothing is more precious than independence and freedom!" A legendary saying of the great leader of my nation, Ho Chi Minh, a short saying that is associated with the nation and that sentence is always in my mind. I am Vietnamese and I am very proud of my forefathers and my people. I am 23 years old this year, but since I was 15 years old, I have learned about my own national history. Especially about the resistance war against the US, the biggest and most glorious war of my people, if you ask what hell is like, let's talk about the war in Vietnam. Our forefathers have from bare feet and empty hands brought Glory and Pride to the nation and us generations to come. GLORY FOR VIETNAM!
South Vietnam was free until the North and the VC invaded and mass murdered millions, put people into concentration camps and then ruled as a dictatorship. That is 'freedom'?
The United States was defending South Vietnam. Which was invaded by North Vietnam unprovoked, South Vietnam did nothing to deserve this war. The United States stepped in to defend South Vietnam, North Vietnam took away the freedoms and the will of the people in South Vietnam, not to mention the countless atrocities the North committed against them. This war was not glorious in any way, its a travesty a dictator bent on growing his influence by destroying the lives of millions of people. A once prosperous South Vietnam destroyed by the North now forced to suffer poor conditions that exist in Vietnam today.
I just finished watching "The Sympathizer", that "nothing is more precious than independence and freedom" really hits different after watching that show.
And this isn't even mentioning how a few years after it won the war, Vietnam found itself at war with Communist China after declaring a protectorate war against the Chinese backed regime in Cambodia.
You're right. Watch the Ken burns 10 part doc on the veitnam war. Everything here is there plus soooo much more.
This also left out that Col. Dewey was killed in Vietnam before America joined the war entirely and is thought to be one of the reasons that U.S. government had no trust for Ho Chi Minh. Additionally, they sort of glazed over just how much Ho Chi Minh really didn't care for communism later on and how he was effectively ousted and just kept as a figurehead/icon for a chunk of the war.
It also explains, why the US and Vietnam today have a pretty solid and good relationship.
@@TheVoracity Yes that is the reason the Tet offensive was such a failure. Le Duan and his cronies launched it against the advice of Vo Giap, and Ho was too ill to stop him.
@@MagiconIce Simply put, enemy’s enemy is friend
Vietnam and us relationship sum up "We could've been friends".
They are friends now lmao
Yep
@Adolf Hitler Ho Chi Minh*
If only we had the same attitude towards Vietnam as we did during the Suez Crisis...
Self determination. If some country wants to be a communistic one....
I have a really great respect for Vietnam, they are tough and they did whatever it takes to achieve independence. They're also the current fastest rising economy in South East Asia. Much love from your ASEAN brother 🇻🇳🇵🇭
They just want to enjoy Indepandence, respect from Malaysia
Yes thanks u guys so much
As long as you don’t let China in your doing great
Certainly doing great with the pandemic. One of those instances where the US needs to take a lesson from Vietnam
The us needs to take a lesson from anyone about that not just Vietnam
I was once married to a Vietnamese woman and have been to Vietnam 3 times.
My observations from being in Vietnam.
1. Every home had a picture of Ho Chi Minh in their house included with their family shrine. When I asked my father in law about it (who didn’t speak a lick of English) answered me in plain English “Ho Chi Minh number one citizen”.
2. Everyone there was equal….equally poor. But happy and drunk, and worked very little. With eating and being drunk with family seemingly being the top priority.
My ex wife’s take on the war. Keep in king she was born, educated, and grew up most of her life in South Vietnam.
1. She knew of the puppet governments that ran south Vietnam for the west back then and knew of the woman that was in charge (can’t think of her name) and that she was particularly vicious.
2. She was and grew up to be extremely proud of the Vietnamese victory l. As she would say….
America came against the Vietnamese people with guns, helicopters, and planes. The Vietnamese people had rocks.
They used them rocks to take their Guns. They used those guns to take their grenades, and bazookas. They used their grenades, and bazookas to take their helicopters and planes. They used their helicopters and planes to win. Basically the idea that they had nothing and were being bullied by a stronger, richer nation. But they used their cunning and strength to turn the tide.
Although she was bought into the American way of life she was still very proud of what went on and that Vietnam won against such a powerful foe against all odds through pure strength and will.
the vietnamese did have guns at the start of the war, but they also did recycle a ton of american munitions to use against them.
the raw resourcefulness in their traps was huge. they would take unexploded bombs as well as shrapnel and make makeshift mines. not to mention the classic spike traps.
the vietnamese also had more veteran troops than the US. they had finished fighting a war in the same jungle environment recently after all.
The tons of bomb which were used in WW2, were even much lesser than the tons of bombs which were used against North Vietnam
Soviet union's help was not little too
Equally poor? Where did you went to then? Everyone is drunk and happy? Where TF on Earth? I'm a Vietnamese and I'm offended bruh.
My house and my friend's house don't have Ho Chi Minh pictures bruh. What are you talking about?
Wow no wonder US history never talks about this,
My school anyway has been learning about the vietnam war for the past week and a half now but I really don't know for other schools
Honestly depends on where you are. Some places teach about our wrongdoings, some don’t.
US History talks about our perspective and how we fighting to destroy Communism
I literally never heard pf that massacre until this video and i consider myself a war buff.
@@Bagheera2 You're not a very good war buff
Failed to mention that the Gulf Of Tonkin incident was publicly verified as a false flag attack
He did mention it as a side note in an old video I think
like 9/11
It never happened. USA needed a reason to officially step in
@@amadeus4398 just no
Amen! I did my IA on whether or not the Tonkin incident was justified
Vietnamese: "Why are Americans invading our country? We have done nothing to them."
Iraqis: can relate
True
And some countries in South America
Bruh , you have too much oil and a bottle of salt
@@milokhanh313 Yes, with all the oil comes extra freedoms
Just wait, our new president who didn't steal the election at all, will get us into some more wars. Need to keep the war machine greased up.
What a great video! As a young Vietnamese watching this video, I am crying because of the pain of my people had been through. I wish the US and Vietnam kept the good relationship as it was after the defeat of Japanese but I guess the US couldn’t just ignore their long time friendship with French either.
Aa a muslim-American, I can't help but feel sad for the Vietnamese because of how similar the war is to Afghanistan. Neither countries can ever be conquered, but many still suffered.
I'm an American, and I believe we should've helped Ho Chi Minh fight the French and the Chinese when he asked for help. But we were far too busy pleasing our allies and Stalin to help Vietnam. It saddens me that we had turned our backs on our ideals of freedom and independence from foreign nations so far that we were willing to let a nation that specifically asked for our help, fall to the tyrannical influence of Russian and Chinese communism.
@@DEFC0NZER0 no no no, Us and france dont has different. you dont know about your goverment and your leaders. They want money, more and more and never enough. your goverment and greedy fat cat bussinessman dont better than china goverment. And now Vietnam goverment is bad too. Iraq new goverment ( friend of us) is corrupt too. Politic-> power -> money -> greedy guys like politic. God dont like greedy guys but satan like them. Capitalism or comutilism is bad too because always greedy guy is leader. us goverment dont care Vietnam, they never help us fight with france. and china, russian help us because we fight with capitalism france and us. but you see? france and us capitalism, and Uk,..... go to 3 world country to power and money. what good of capitalism? because it to bad so commutilsm were born.
Nobody cares shut up.
@@DEFC0NZER0 Americans are truly hypocritical. The source of turmoil in this world is you United States. China has not experienced war about 40 years. You Americans are waging wars around the world, for example, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and Libya are all American battlefields.
Everything depends on the Americans. If they want to make war for 20 years then we shall make war for 20 years. If they want to make peace, we shall make peace and invite them to tea afterwards.
- Ho Chi Minh
Ho Chi Minh is chill..
60 years later, everyone is having tea.
British people approve
What a chad.
The US ultimately secured what it sought, a country not allied with China or the USSR, this came to fruition with the Sino-Vietnamese war and the subsequent formation of ties and military agreements between Vietnam and the US to counter China. The US's only concern is ensuring that it's sphere of influence goes mostly unchallenged.
@@GuyShōtō true, US might have lost their last battle, but essentially won the war, checking all objectives.
@@GuyShōtō No, from the very beginning Ho Chi Minh knew that Vietnam cant rely on anyone. And till this day Vietnam doesnt have neither allies or enemies. We accept USSRs support with gratitude, but never let them interfere in our internal affairs. And Vietnam and China have a long, complicated relationship. As long as we have peace, everyone is just a friend
I'm amazed by the comments, so many patriotic vietnam people telling story about their elders. Much respect from Indonesia. We SEA people endured so much war. Hope the problem in Myanmar, Thailand, and others SEA countries will be better. 🇮🇩
because most of our elders joined the war volutarily to fight for our homeland. The US or Southen VN have a place to run but we don't. Viet Nam is our homeland and we're not gonna go anywhere but fight.
I don't know what is happening in Thailand, whatever happens in Thailand is not comparable to Myanmar.
Civil war, military dictator and more than half of the country is on fire.
@@quocbaonguyen8308 what do you mean by Southerners have a place to run?
@@MeowTX well they escaped to the US though
Respect from Russia🇷🇺 We feel your pain😔
Nothing but respect to the Vietnamese people, nothing more beautiful then proud people of their lands
Actually in Vietnam many families are the mix of North and South factions and they all know and feel normal. They may quarrel with outsiders about history, about factions, but at home they are still happy and get along with the rest of the family even though they know that the other half has supported a different faction.
My grandfather's brother used to support the South side, while my grandfather's family has always supported the North side, until now the two sides still stay connected and very familiar. I don't understand why, but I think part of it is that my grandfather's brother was not on the official payroll and did not directly participate in combat and was not in a high position in the Saigon system at that time.
I’ve lived in Saigon for 5 years. I’ve visited some of these places and spoken with people who survived. Their stories are living nightmares. Very sad....
People who survived the My Lai?
you mean people who survived at My Lai massacred
Ho Chi Minh city*
Soon under the biden administration the same will happen to the United States if not worse.
@@DucPhamDuctator Nobody forget the communist crimes along decades ! Unknown by the foreigners brainwashed by the leftits supports o f barbarian commies ! You alone ?
"Why are Americans invading our country? We have done nothing to them." What a candid and true statement.
If the US had invaded North Vietnam the war wouldn't have been a 13 year quagmire.
@@GudenMaust China: *You fell victim for one of the classic bunders*
@Cali_ Kid Are they burning your cities and killing your children by the thousands?
@Cali_ Kid Who is "foreign" to "America", clown? Ouf...
I guess it's candid and true by North Vietnamese propaganda standards. No Americans went into North Vietnam, not wanting to risk what happened in 1950. By contrast, the NVA sent thousands South.
India has always supported Vietnam for ages and we will keep supporting you guys .
Long live our friendship
My dad would tell me about the atrocities committed against North about American soldiers and their brutality against civilians. This video truly tells people how the North wasn't as evil as they thought they were.
I never knew my great uncle was a Vietnam veteran until after he died when I was about 7. Every time I bring it up to my Grandma she says the only thing he ever said about being in the war was that “The worst thing they made me do was shoot innocent women and babies” That hurts my heart because lots of Americans did not want to be in Vietnam and in my Grandmas opinion we had no reason to be there
@Major Simmons That is true. American soldiers used to play a game, when they were being transported by truck. They would bet on who could shoot and kill the baby out of its mother's arms, as the truck was in motion.
@@taino20 Jesus do you think he was pressured into playing the game? Or do you think it was a direct order? Either way damn that’s awful
No, he was not pressured into it, nor was it a direct order. It just reflected a general insanity prevalent among some soldiers there at the time. Many soldiers were sane individuals before they went over there and they were just driven insane by what they saw and what they had to do.
@@taino20 yeah I couldn’t imagine what one would go through seeing such things. Especially knowing he was drafted into Vietnam which most people thought was pointless to begin with. Imagine coming to the realization that you are being sent to die for no reason out of your control. Not trying to defend these actions by the way.
Drafted idiots who has no biz in war. Glad usa went to volunteer system
When the Vietnam war ended I was 12 years old. 5 years earlier I read a book on Ho Chi Min and could understand his goals. I was summoned to my schools headmaster for my bad behavior. My crime was to state out aloud that the Vietnam war was a lie and the Vietnamese only wanted freedom to rule themselves. The solders are not to blame but their leaders were. I stood my ground and many students and teachers had my back.
I'm so glad the Vietnamese won their right to rule themselves and so sorry for all the lost soles on both sides. This war should have never happened. RIP to all who lost their lives.
thanks...because you understand us
Aussie the based god Taipan
common sense should always be praised in times of mass delusion,
sadly I think we have again entered such times, though luckily it has not come with a war
@@erwin9065 this could actually be the case, history is always full of nuance, what I do know is that whilst not the most democratic country they never committed the peacetime atrocities of their neighbours, they also overthrew the red khmer terror regime and fought (admittedly it was only a half hearted and symbolic action) the Chinese invasion that started right after that, the ones manning the deffenses were in many cases women)
(China seems to have realised that defending Pol Pot (cause he was in their sphere) was just not prudent but not doing something would signal that China does not honor its agreements and in fact is weak)
the USSR sort of fell into that trap, they had guaranteed Vietnams indipendence from China as China had Guaranteed it for Laos, when China invaded Vietnam the USSR did nothing, which indeed made them lose face, which was very good for China as contender for leader of the communist world
in the end the communist world is practically gone, but China has managed to end up as the number two economy of the world, though if you ask me they wil be lucky to maintain this position, an aging population, encroaching water and resource shortages, midle income wage trap, enduring high and low level corruption, the practical non existence of a social security system,...
They wil allmost certainly remain highly relevant on the world stage but all of these will cause their growth to slow, stagnate or perhaps their economy may even shrink slightly,
Japan was in a similar situation in the 90s I believe, economists were arguing when Japan would overtake the US economy, ofcourse nobody would take the claim that Japan is destined to become the world economic leader seriously today, but many are saying that China wil
@@istoppedcaring6209 sure China is strong but they are irresponsible in using their power to bully other countries. If VN had stayed capitalist people’s lives would be a lot better and they would be a major contender in the global market today like Korea.
As a Vietnamese citizen, I'm fully aware of how awful these wars were in regards of their impacts, even in today. Because my dad used to be a soldier fighting Mekong Delta in 1970s, he still made me think about the huge damage that the war gave to him. We all acknowledge that war cannot be the solution, it's just hurting innocent people's lives. These have gone pass but the lessons for today are never outdated to learn. That should be encouraged more for younger ones around the globe.
Well said.
you are saying war isn't a solution , but your parents fought for their freedom where you are a free citizen , from the history we always see that when it comes about right war is the only solution , look in Palestine , is negotiating is a solution there ? it's war that's the only solution , history is written by the victorious that's what they say .
War isn't the solution it's just highly profitable
I agree with a persons comment: war is profitable, only its who is making profit is the question.
Also we in the u.s have a saying,
War does not determine who is right - only who is left....
I have a Vietnamese friend. Her father had studied at university in America before the war in Vietnam. His role in working for the north Vietnamese army was to listen in to American radio communications and translate them - helping the North Vietnamese know where American troops were being deployed and their plans and requests for help.
*flashbacks in French*
*oh no*
Oh no not French
fils chanceux est entendu en arrière-plan
*Flashbacks in RIP-off British*
uh oh
So if Truman has stood up to France, all this could have been avoided. 🤔
@ThyPeasantSlayer But it didn't tho. If France had begrudgingly given Vietnam their freedom in the late 40s (Remember, at this point, Ho Chi Minh wasn't completely dedicated to Communism, but more national liberation), then there'd be even less of a chance for that to happen. The West could have gained a much-needed ally in southeast Asia in the form of an independent Vietnam, but instead spent 20 years killing people (And getting their own soldiers killed) for Vietnam to gain independence anyways.
It wasn't a matter of standing up *only* to France. He would also have had to stand up to an American citizenry and Congress that was under the sway of a very powerful anti-Communism political and propaganda machine.
@@mscmrdx6826 So you disagree with freedom and removing the rich from power...spoken like a true slave to Capitalism.
@@mscmrdx6826 him and the rest of the Capitalist elite control everything. Only in Socialism do the people have the power. You, my friend, are the brainwashed one if you think we have any freedom or power in this Capitalist shithole of a country.
@ThyPeasantSlayer Even if you don’t like communism, no country has the right to determine another country’s choices. The United States has always used “spreading democracy” as it’s excuse to invade other countries.
Vietnam is still socialist, and I hope one day they reach full communism. Capitalism is for the imperialist backwards countries such as the US, the UK, and France. Communism is true liberation of all people.
I learned a lot of vietnam playing civilization, while the vietnam war is indeed famous in pop culture I encourage everyone to research in their empire times, Vietnam has a rich culture and a lot of history to be proud of.
yes, especially in their fight against Chinese invasions, actually using war elephants in battle as well,
All excited to be a part of that action.
arnt they communist? go join em if you love em so much fruitsnacker
Bro this is a promotion for Civilization not a comment about the war
@@istoppedcaring6209 Rebel province since Ming Dynasty.
My dad (black American) fought in the Vietnam war while his mother was back home in Selma, Alabama fighting for our freedom. My dad use to tell me that a few times while fighting in the jungle he and a Vietnamese soldier would cross paths unexpectedly then stare at each other. The Vietnamese always seemed confused to why a black man from America was helping the white man fight. Even they knew we barely had rights, was mistreated & many killed by our own countrymen because of our color. Unfortunately, after the confused pause a quick decision had to be made.
Ho Chi Minh knew all about it. HCM came to US and befriended many black civil right leaders like GArvey i believe
@@youngvvyoungonevv8798
“Ho Chi Minh”? That's interesting. There is still a lot about history I don't know. Thanks for the info.
@@ventnessflaw5332 HCM also wrote a pamphlet called it, "the Black Race." Him and Malcolm X shared the same birthdate. The man to me seems really cool.
@@youngvvyoungonevv8798 That is cool. I will look it up. I'm curious about what he wrote.
@@ventnessflaw5332hãy đọc một vài câu chuyện về tay đấm bốc Mohamed Ali trong chiến tranh Việt Nam , bạn sẽ hiểu rỏ hơn về con người Việt Nam chúng tôi
The American’s knowledge about the root of the Vietnam war is too simple, so they make big mistake.
The Vietnam war is not only just start in 1954 (Genever meeting in which some superpowers cut Vietnam become two parts) or in 1964 (American’s landing troop came). It’s started in 1858 when the French attacked and colonized our nation.
The Vietnamese in that time just simply did what their ancestors had did in 4000 years with invasion forces such as: Chinese, Mongol, Manchu, Japanese and French v.v. similar with American in the war with England for their independence.
Ho Chi Minh have no choice after US president Rooservelt and Wilson refused to help Vietnam but support the French (US bear 80% cost of war for French). In this case “the enermy of the enermy is the friend”, theirfore we had to find the support from USSR and China; But we still keep independence with them in our direction.
The remainings is history in which the Vietnamese made a tremendous sacrifice for free their country. Thank godness now we have peace, unify and concentrate on developing our country .
Honesty, Vietnamese don’t want to fight with anyone, we just want to live, work to earn, take care our young children and old parent, enjoy our life and make friend with other nations. God bless all nations in the world!
Great, my fellow Vietnamese. Just the comment that I'm finding right now.
Hello from Canada!
The comment that I need to slap on betrayers faces
@@michaelboyd395 Hello from Vietnam, my brother, And may I offer you some artificial cheese in this trying time?
@@mr.monhon5179 This is the best comment ever written
What a powerful story. Vietnamese people are legends. Always doing whats seems right for their people no matter what it will cost. Thats not about politics or power, just being able to choose their future. For me thats the definition of caring and courage
Well, their economic policies were Fucked up TBH. Sure, Communism is better than imperialism, but it is worse than Capitalism...
Vietnam had more GDP per capita than South Korea just after both ended their wars.
The part about Massacring thousands of Vietnamese people and throwing them into ditches in Hue City because they would not follow the Hanoi government is indeed inspiring. As are all of the reoccurrences Of such atrocities by Vietnamese who knew what was best for other Vietnamese.
Legends are distorted history made by people and most often lack facts.
When you get finished slapping yourself on the back, go back and examine your legends ask why the Legendary Vietnamese never won a single battle again the US, China, or Japan. They just hung around, like the legendary mosquito does.
And now Afghanistan.
@@catmandu1957 yes they won the battles but they lost the whole war eh ? we didn't call ourself the strongest country or legend. But if yall wanna take our land and use it by your own good, one way or another we gonna kick yall ass out of our land
@@khangngo8004 Not if I’m in charge........because I would fight you as a strategist, not a politician. I would establish an end game strategy, something never done in Nam, Iraq, or Afghanistan and use Sun Tzu’s art of war strategy to take away the guerrilla tactics supplied by outside Sources. I would not play at war, and you would not even have an ass to kick. No running back to off limit havens like North Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, or Pakistan. You didn’t beat the Japanese, you just ran away from them and they had too much on their plate. Believe me, if they wanted to Manchuria you, they were so much stronger that they would have taken away you hide holes. The Taliban were defeated in a month by an outfit called the Northern Alliance. A proper end game strategy would have dispelled the politicians of allowing a fake ally in Pakistan from giving the Taliban safe have to regroup. Even China played a political game in N Vietnam in 78 and invaded for a distance like they had done to India before and left declaring victory in their punitive excursion. Anybody can be beaten, by a determined foe using their head and knowledge of history. Ever think what would have happened to you if a Contra strategy in The North had been pursued while a fight between Russia and China had been instigated. Don’t get so uppity.....you can’t even keep China from taking anything it wants in the China Sea, even your islands.
As an American, I've been taught that this war was a futile effort to stop the spread of communism in an era where we felt greatly threatened by the Soviet Union's mass influence. Despite what idiots online might say, this was a war that we never have, and never will be proud of. It caused a massive divide in the country, soured our reputation, and costed the lives of many American soldiers that, unlike in WW2, didn't understand what they were truly fighting for and weren't prepared for what they were being sent into. My heart goes out to any Vietnamese families impacted by the war, and hopefully we can repair our relations in the many years to come 🇺🇸❤️🇻🇳
That was you have been taught. Vietnam has the best location for international trading among South East Asia. That was not a party war
I mean yes maybe partly but back in that days. The location is what the US really wants
@@angtong5637 The us weren't even planning to take over, they were working with the north because they wanted to get rid of a communist leader and the gulf of Tonkin incident gave them reason to invade. They even openly supported a literal corrupt leader well on the path to dictatorship (Diem) because he wasn't communist
You don’t speak for any other Americans. I am proud of the War and I wish we would have stayed until the job was done.
Robert Smalls so that more innocent people can be killed? Look i can get that u guys dont want communism to spread but staying there wont do any good,and a tons of other people across the world know that this war is useless and it dont bring anything except deaths and suffering to Vietnamese and Americans soldiers
We could have done this a thousand times better had ur government acknowledged us but they dont so we just have to use communist as a tool to unite our people and hope for the freedom of the nation.
Many many and many Vietnamese have forgiven the Americans and just wanted peace same goes for Americans wanted their soldiers back.
Point being: this was a dumb war that shouldn't have happened but at the end of the day the two nation that fought for 20 years now is friendly again and we HOPED that this will never happened ever again
As a Vietnamese born in a time of peace, I vow to protect my country at all costs 🇻🇳
US intelligence & observers: We got your back, bro!
Harry Truman: COMMIE! COMMIE! REEEEEEEEE
Oh Eisenhower??????
Sam o nella fan spotted
Lul, American in nutshell
@@Argos-xb8ek yeah sup?
I grew up listening to my grandma's story of the war and it was horrifying.
She told me how American bombers when they spotted our troops marching to the South, going across our village and bombed them along with many villages nearby, including ours.
How the young soldiers desperately begged my grandma to allow them to get in her shelter, but she couldn't because the bombardment was still going on and she had a kid (my uncle) with her. Then she heard them screaming, running, praying and crying outside.
How she and others went outside after every attack, to collect and bury the young lads' body parts scattering everywhere, many times the whole body was missing, only a part of it, like a arm, a leg or scarier, a head, was found and they got to go with that. I can still see some unknown graves, without a name, when I revisited my hometown.
When she almost lost her son, my uncle, when a bomb exploded right in her yard and demolished every single thing in the house (my uncle was playing with other kids in the village entrance, my grandma ran home 3km from the rice field just to find out that).
And how the American planes shot every villagers running outside, including women and children. That's right, like in Full Metal Jacket, and even scarier. There was a women, went working on the field, then she was informed that her son, who was still 8 yrs old, was shot by an American plane. After the tragedy, she went insane and died not long after.
My grandpa was a engineer, taking part in designing the famous Hồ Chí Minh trail, so he rarely showed up at home during most of the war. My grandma, as a farmer, raised my uncle well, he even went to college, which was a huge huge deal at that time in Vietnam, even more impressive in a poor rural area like my hometown. My dad was born in 1974, ways after the bombardment stopped, so he never really experienced the war, as well as my aunt. It was incredibly difficult to understand every thing my grandparents went through during their young and middle ages, my grandpa passed away peacefully 3 yrs ago and now my grandma is enjoying her elder ages in the suburb of Hanoi.
Which make no sense cause the US government told the US soldiers not to kill civilians. But the soldiers…
@@descree7 But ofcourse... God sees everything.
“Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?”
- Isaiah 29:15 KJV
Don't say "war has no benefit" here! All for their own good! America's interests are spoken by Americans and Vietnam's interests are spoken by Vietnam. If there were no wars, would America be as rich as it is now? That's all, living in my life is the only one
@@rpgdreamer8690 your same god says that killing as a soldier isn’t murder.
@@davidduffield1713 Where? God knows the heart and souls of everyone. He knows the intentions of the soul.
Make no mistake in thinking that all Christians will be saved. There will be plenty of people who profess to be Christians that won't make it into the kingdom of God.
Rest In Peace to all the Vietnamese who died in their pursuit of independence, and to the American soldiers, marines, and airmen who died for unscrupulous politicians.
@@peaceluv1548 this is irony or you are one of that people that thinks that chocolate milk comes from brown cows ?
we never should have been there -- what a sad tragedy
@@peaceluv1548 them making your clothes isn't a good thing
@Jeremy H it’s all in the past??? Why don’t you tell that to the thousands of innocent Vietnamese civilians who died because of American war crimes? The country still suffers today because American politicians really can’t seem to mind their own business.
@@reck8402 ah yes only the Americans.
This gave me a great perspective on the Vietnam war, thank you for making this. I especially liked the info boxes on the side with additional info and facts
Wow, you give me, a vietnamese, more knowledge about our nation’s resistance. Many thanks for that. Btw, people should know that Vietnamese is a friendly nation, not an agressive one, we fought against the super powers just bc they want to take freedom from us. Now, amid covid 19 pandemic, we are handling it well and there’s no lockdown in the entire country. Visit us and we will show you our hospitality
Appreciate the offer, but I doubt Vietnam doesn't wanna beat the crap out of some Americans. Trust me, you don't want us in your country anyway, our people have become horribly dumb and easily brainwashed.
See you soon bro! ❣🙏
@@picklewart5382 I’ve lived here for 5 years. Most Vietnamese like Americans. Most are very friendly and helpful and hold no grudges about the war.
@@Lord_Cabby Well they're good people then, but the second half of my point stands.
@@picklewart5382 not all Americans I wouldn't even say most.
You should do the Serbian revolution, I am not Serbian but It is very interesting.
it is interesting, as a Serbian i am very sad thet people dont talk about it
You guys should do it!
@@Slappist_Cast they totaly should
I'm sure the comments will be nothing but calm and rational conversations between levelheaded gentlemen
Or do the Yugoslav wars
US GI when seeing Vietnamese farmers: "If they run, they are Vietcong, if they do not run, they are highly discipline Vietcong"
Yeah seriously the US leadership needs to be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
If the us has warranted a trial then might as well charge the eastern bloc without one
That is a quote from the movie "Full Metal Jacket"
Fmj
@@3dfreak2000 Yep.
Learning about Ho Chi Minh expecting the US to help him fight the French, it gave me an idea for an alternate history story about where the US does exactly that; help Ho Chi Minh in his fight against the French and Chinese
Vietnamese leaders always remember the saying, "There are no permanent enemies or permanent friends, only permanent national interests." Therefore, throughout the 20th century, Vietnam fought against many enemies, some of whom were even former allies, such as China, for example. However, territorial integrity and independence have always been the highest goals.
Griffin Johnson: the Vietnam war from the Viennese perspective
Me: but all I see is trees
True
Man these tres really be speaking vietnamiese
The sky speaks democracy
@@thatonetroll1059 and the bombs be speaking nothing but death
@@thewanderer93 no its Fortunate Son
"Because we do not beg for freedom, we fight for freedom." - Witold Urbanowicz
Edit: My comment section became a political and racist argument in here, I just posted resilience quotes and this is what I get?
@Shane L if you say so, libtarder sauce
@@lasagner9567 You just called someone "libtarder sauce", you're not much better.
@Shane L saying black people don’t have human rights in the US is a pretty sad statement. I’m not saying there’s not racism but they sure as hell have human rights just like the rest of us. Don’t let the media get to your head man
@Shane L you know, it is people like you that further divide US even more. Why sow distrust and hate to each other instead of doing the opposite? You think colored people don’t have human rights? Have you checked what happened during the 60s? Today? Sure there’s racism and a**holes here and there, but life is much better, though more work need to be done, compared to those old days.
Looks like someone tried to be smart but it ended with backlash
US: "We love freedom!"
Vietnam: "We have been freed!"
US: "wait that's illegal."
Uhhh, nevermind, it's probably too difficult for you to grasp
🎶 Some folks were born, made to waive the flag, oooh that red white and blue 🎶
@@victorglaviano ???
I get the meme value but a lot of people would say that authoritarian communism isn't freedom, but tyranny by a local. Which I suppose is better than tyranny of a foreigner.
It was more a war against Russia and Communism rather than the Vietnamese people.
Huge respect to Vietnamese as a Filipino. This video is really heavy, fucking Americans used fellow Filipino to fight our friendly neighbor vietnam.
As i was watching this video, a book i read flashed through my memory. 'The mountains sing' by Nguyen Phan Que Mai. It is one of the best novels i have read in a couple of years. The people of vietnam has gone through so much terror, violence, and several decades of war, something that is unparalleled in human history.
Thanks
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The Vietnam war is like 2 neighbors having a dispute, then proceed to wreck a third person's home in another city.
Correct description
Surprisingly true
How?
@@AlexeiRamotar It was essentially a proxy war between the USSR and the US.
@@scottyotty2hotty so the Vietnamese were simply pawns? What about the anti-French Resistance war? Was that also a proxy war that the Vietnamese had no interest in fighting and were simply directed by Russians, French or Americans?
“opinions will rage back and forth whether or not the us was justified”
okay just ignore the declassification of the gulf of Tonkin in 1990 that states the false flag
I hugely respect this channels work, however I also find the fact this isn't mentioned at all quite worrying, certainly as it leads to the questioning of credibility in general of the channel. That seems unjustified in my judgement, but that isn't the case for everybody who watches.
A historians core mission in society is to stimulate critical thinking on current day events & trends by using the past as a point of reference. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident is one of my stock references in this, it deserves more context than given here....
@@bramja5460 he literally said it
Very true, he did. The issue is it is literally all that is said, only mentioned in passing as being a/the casus belli for the USA, nothing more. Only the mention of the CIA assasination just before could be seen as implying that the event was an American machination. However that is only so if you are already familiar anyway.
The 'false flag' nature of the event isn't spoken about at all, which is all the stranger given it is the Vietnamese perspective given here...
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John Doe & @Dooly remarked the same thing btw.
Muricans got their own history
Ses from Vietnam perspectiv