The Bad Batch vs Null Class Arc Troopers: Star Wars Who would Win?
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2020
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I love your content my guy, keep it up bro.
Why did you left Echo out, @Geetsly's? I want him in as well.
Brndon Lu ya he’s part of the bad batch now
I think Null Arcs would win, every time. Keep up the good work, Geetslys!
Geetsly WTF
Null ARCs and it's not even a competition
YES. THE BAD BATCH DOESN'T HAVE A CHANCE! THE NULL ARCS SHOULD GET A 10 out of ten on EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!
Oof, no contest. Null class ARCS are the best of the best as far as Clones can go.
This guy knows what's up
nut
Delta Squad?
@@kaidenbraught4573 I suppose it's possible you could argue that Delta squad is a more effective team than any other troopers because of their synergy, but individually they're less independent, far less versatile and generally inferior because of training and genetic tampering.
Yea I’m
Going Nulls all the way
Nulls were the best because they were trained by the great Kal Skirata. He also adopted them as his sons.
That as well as the genetic mutations they had that made them top of the line and ferocious
You’re thinking of the Clone Commando Delta Squad
And they worked with Omega squad, delta squad, Walon Vau, and of course, LORD MIRDALAN, MY PET! (Actually, Jaing inherited Mird)
@@themisfitbrigade Nulls were trained and adopted by kal skirata. Nulls and commandos made up clan skirata on Mandalore when they deserted the republic during order 66.
"Embrace others for their differences, for that makes you whole."
The only difference between this fight and how I see it happening is that the Nulls if they know about Hunter would probably go in manual not using the tech that could give them away. Considering they were trained to not rely solely on their tech. I'm not sure if a Verpine Shattergun is detectable for Hunter or not as they are kind of mini rail guns. Also in this fight I'm assuming that The B.B. is using the newest version of Kataran Armor why wouldn't the Nulls have upgraded to phase 2 ARC armor? Or just use Beskar which I think they had access to from Skirata?
@Nathan Willard Mitchell that is what they are. They make Trandoshan slug throwers look like slingshots in comparison. Considering a Trando slug thrower kinda bounces off MK1 Kataran while a Verp destroyed MK1 Kataran.
@Nathan Willard Mitchell this is true. I still don't know why ARCs and N-ARCs used base plastoid instead of Kataran class if they where meant to be the best. I feel that the Kataran is probably the best armor system in Star Wars other then Beskar.
imagine if all clone commandos had beskar armor
You really underclassed the NULLs on their "stats" heavily.
Firstly they are much more intelligent, and their aim is also easily on 9
I like Null Arc's the best but I dont mind Bad Batch. Its definitely the Null Arcs that'd win for sure. Now adding echo with bad batch itll increase their chances but not by to much. Plus Null arcs there are 6 where bad batch 4 or 5 with Echo. I can see these guys competing with Delta squad more than Null arcs. I would have liked Cody to say that Bad Batch are big rivals to Delta Squad. Thatd been cool.
That’d make for a great scene...but alas it’s pre-Disney and they hate everything they haven’t created. And agreed Nulls all the way no competition
I would say the nulls have a 65% chance while the bad batch 35% (depends of the terrain)
In a bad batch episode 3 of them they barely had a chance against Scorch
The Nulls don't use always use Standard Phase 1 Armor. They would likely have used Katarn Armor (if it was available) or some other Advanced Armor. They might also have used Jetpacks or had their ship use its Immensely Capable EM Jammers to blind Hunter and slow down Tech. The Verpine Shattergun would have been used by All Nulls, as would Sniper Rifles for the bulk of the Long-distance hike. The Nulls are really more like an 8, a 7, and a 7, due to the "Regs" being roughly a 6 for each section. This is due to the fact that since Legends "Regs" were somewhat Smarter Stronger, and more Dextrous than their Canon Counterparts (their efficiency in Executing Order 66 was Vastly Better in Legends than Canon).
@Nathan Willard Mitchell Exactly my point. They would Never want their Katarn to be obvious, or maybe it is called something else since it belonged to non-Commandos (the Nulls are better than the Commandos), especially since the Kaminoans Hate the Nulls for their Independent nature.
The bad batch seems to mostly be effective as a team; where one is good at something the other is advocating for their shortcomings. The null arcs to my knowledge seem to be exceptionally effective both alone and together.
The problem with the Bad Batch is that they're too specialized. If one of them is out of commission, then most of their capabilities in certain areas that they relied on that comrade for is lost.
I can't imagine a single null dying to the bad batch, to be honest
me too, wrecker couldn't have possibly killed ME
Nulls! Their training and backstore are way betters. They are pratically Mandalorians since Skirata adopted them.
Ordo would beat bad batch 1v4 straight up
So Nulls no question
Maybe all of them but ordo probably can’t take down 4 or 5 of them
I agree
Well, I figured the nulls would win, but Geestly, I feel that you forgot that the nulls did have access to Beskar, and that I feel would have made a big difference in the outcome you played out, as it would make them harder to kill. I also feel thar they would have used different tactics, most likely knowing of B.B. already and working out more effective ways to deal with them, but that's just my opinion, and it was still a great video.
Woah the Nulls wore Beskar? I only read until True Colors. Did they use them during the Clone Wars?
@@rcbmmines4579 They had their own sets, but they only used them after evacing from an event in later books, and in the process of it, they scrap the cone armour they have, if remember correctly.
Hugh Mann oh well I guess it’s fair to not put the beskar into this fight. But if it is, that would probably demolish Bad Batch.
@@rcbmmines4579 Well if I was in their boots I would have, I mean you always want to mitigate risk by maximizing you combat capability, or make the fight as unfair in your favour as possible, but I can understand them not having the armour, it just would depend on when the fight happened.
Null ARCS were trained to be one man armies.
ZIGACKLY!
Null ARC. There was never A doubt. Also, I feel like Hunter was a bit OP in the video because he basically could now where they were. But ARC's still got it.
Nulls for sure, Next!
Argument invalid. Squad 99 charged headlong into a company+ sized element of infantry and armor over open terrain when ranged weaponry was available. A course of action the Null ARCs would never do. This showcases their stupidity, general incompetence and the fact that the only reason they survive in the show is due to plot armor. And for someone who received a 10 for intelligence, Hunter constantly throws his rifle away to engage massed troops with a knife.
Really the Nulls main advantage is that they are book characters, meaning they are allowed to be intelligent and not let themselves get caught in suicidal situations.
Nulls kick ass
The quality of this video is so sleek and well edited. I’ve been watching you’re content since early 2016 and I must have seen you go through at least 5 different intros since then so it’s amazing seeing how well your quality has improved over the years
This was honestly a lot more intense than I expected. The description of the fight was awesome and the way they died honestly sent shivers down my spine. Very well done!
That commentary was so DARK!
Three words.
Arca barracks siege.
The Nulls held off 3+ RC squads and additional clone support.
Plus the space port siege
Triple Zero had Ordo at his best. Poor Corr. "I dOn'T wAnT tO dEcLaRe My LoVe FoR oRdO, tHaNkS"
I’ve never felt more immersed in a Geetsly’s video than that one
0:48 i see that covered up yawn hiding back there, you can't fool me.
I like the Deadliest Warrior vibes-would love to see more!
Nulls are experts in everything that a commando would need to know to be the best in a conventional war, and then they have almost super spy levels of skills on top of that thanks to their papa kal for needs outside of the war. I feel like bad batch kinda stumbles its way through situations if they aren't fighting droids
Honestly if the planet wasnt at the threat of blowing up, im certain they would team up
The Nulls. No contest. A single Null versus all the Bad Batch. Thats more of a contest.
Delta squad vs Omega squad
oof i love my boys Omega squad and Delta would probably win
Omega, Fi would have talked Delta to death.
@@LIGHTNING278TH huzzah a man of culture
Wow, late to the party as usual. The Nulls would win without casualties. I think you criminally underrated the Nulls intelligence. They learned how to count in Mandalorian after hearing it just once as children. That is unheard of levels of intelligence. Also they figured out where Grievous' main hideout was about three months into the war. I know you were basing this on the Katarn armor the Nulls initially had but remember that later in war they each got their own Beskar armor. They would also have targeted Hunter first to remove the only one that could track Prudii. Once Rambo is dead the rest would fall quickly. While Clone Force 99 were good in chaos, the Nulls embody chaos. Just a few thoughts. Great video.
No offense but the nulls have to be at least a ten in intelleigence. They found grievous and will be able to hack the whole imperial main frame in a day. The mainframe I have no doubt is well defend.
When Korm’k die exactly? I only counted 4 Null ARC trooper deaths along with Mereel being the sole survivor and there is 6 Null ARC Troopers in total. What happened to Korm’k? If he died to the drag grenades then there is no mention of his death? Did he die or survive along with Mereel despite him saying Mereel was the “last living Null Trooper”?
I appreciate that you recognized the bad batches biggest weakness, wreckers temper.
Knowing of Hunter's em sense, Ordo would have ordered one of his brothers out of armor. Likely Jaing. He would not have had Jaing use a sniper rifle, as the shattergun would be harder to detect. Aiden would have the verpine sniper rifle, and would provide counter sniping. Mereel would likely be toting the Eweb. All of the Nulls would have deployed drones, and would be carrying anti blaster aerosol grenades in addition to the empty grenades.
@Nathan Willard Mitchell True, but the Nulls could also make just about anything they needed, if it didn't exist. Or adapt what did exist to work in new and creative ways. I think Greetsly didn't take this into account in this video. Skiratta trained them to be resourceful. He wanted them to be able to be independent. Their attachment to him wasn't his intention, it was a side effect of the trauma they suffered at the hands of the Kaminii.
@Nathan Willard Mitchell Or the crawler program they dropped into the Republic database, that leached off of the Republic treasury transactions. *laughing*
Each have their own advantage and both could probably win given the circumstances
LIAR! (Have you read the republic commando books?)
If they know about Hunter’s ability why would the Null Arc’s not take precaution and limit their detectability or at least do something to confuse hunter’s senses? They are smarter than that
Honestly I really don't like the bad batch I watch them and I think superheroes but with the arcs I think bad ass soldiers and honestly I believe that the superhero antics should be left to the jedi let clones be what they have always been amazing warriors and the greatest of men
LunarWolf101 I love the Bad Batch
respect u for ur opinion I personally liked them since they adopted echo into the squad but I would've preferred them showing Delta Squad or even the Nulls for the rescue mission
MG16NCP What do you mean?
i agree wholeheartedly. When I saw the Bad Batch I thought, „Ugh, Cartoony characteristics and superhero-like abilities? Why do they go from badass soldiers to _this_ ?“
Though I believe the Bad Batch would put up a damn good fight, the Null ARCs are these very best of the clones. THE GREATEST SOLDIERS IN STAR WARS.
@COMMIE BRAH tbh CF99 got 0 respect for the military structure too.
they made the nulls so OP that 6 died in the cloning process lmao
how is it possible geetsly made a video abt something I didn't even know I wanted to watch
The assumption that hunter can sense the positions of the Nulls seems rather weak. Frequently in the bad batch series the troopers are ambushed or otherwise intercepted by foes they did not see or expect. Overall the bad batch does well against droids, but not organics. The Nulls have no such problem, frequently being used to strike terror into the organics. Also the Nulls are much more brutal. The Nulls are also just as adept at hacking as Tech is.
The bad batch are basically the cannon Null troopers, kind of like how Rex is the new Fordo.
Rex is new Alpha-17
This could actually happen depending in who followed Order 66 and such.
Yus Null Class victory.
My sons did well.
You should make a series of videos about operation durge's lance and the outer rim sieges, that would be super cool.
The thing with hunter is if you put a lot of noise smell and a lot of things to see around then you might over load his senses
Does anyone know of the circumference of a clone?
I bet all my credits and life savings
Don't forget the genetic engineering that was done to them and their live fire training at two years old
Jeff Goldblum?
Well, Ordo will stick their heads into a refresher (toilet) like what he did to Boba.
Let's see some Republic Commandos and Trandosans
aren't droid poppers emp nades, which don't blind hunter?
We need Deadliest Warrior: Star Wars Edition
1. Death troopers vs null arc troopers
2. Storm Commando vs Clone Commando
3. Clone commando vs Bad Batch
the Null's would have bitch slapped Bad Batch....
Alpha 17 vs erron black(mortal kombat) ,any thoughts of who might win this one?
Sounds like a insane match up
Would be more fair if the debate was ''Can Null Arc Ordo solo the bad batch?''
How about storm commando vs death trooper?
I have to give it to the Nulls. They're six Jango Fetts with beskar >.>
Cheeky frag grenade team kill for the dub
The null class are far much deadlier and if not mistaken thus because there far more independent than any other clone.
Do we know the actions of the bad batch during order 66 ?
Null class Arcs no questions!
I still want see more matches of clone special forces units against the galatic empire special forces units
Bad batch would be too busy making jokes thinking they're only fighting standard arcs
More vs.!
Too bad we couldn’t see Hunter feeling the electromagnetic waves from the Cyber Center or that ability at all, also the Null and Alpha ARCs would have been really cool to see in the Clone Wars
You should do Rex vs Fordo
Nulls 100%
The red arc is called Fordo.
@Nicholas Leschey oh, I didn't know, he used a picture of fordo from the 2003 Clone Wars series, that irritatet me.
Are we just gonna ignore the world breaking matchup that is jeff goldblum vs Doomguy?
Lmao
What if the Jedi had an established order within the CIS that did not stray from Jedi teachings and was council approved? I honestly think it could have brought another golden age for the Jedi and possibly have a peaceful secession.
The null's, easily.
They each have more specializations like alpha's n can work totally independent as well as due to the special bond they share, function as a team too.
The bad batch, like rc squads, are highly specialized in one department n become more or less useless, where there talent isn't called for, should they be forced to operate alone.
It' just the same as arc's versus rc's, null's are like combinong the best of'em both, as long it's about what they're able to do.
Getting them to do it, of course, is something different.
PAR KAL!
PAR MANDO'ADE!
I need an explanation on that Goku vs Superman take, both characters are insanely broken, but if there’s no kryptonite present Superman is punching harder then the Big Bang
Also can we see omega verses delta next
The Null Arcs are better imo i love the bad batch but the Null Arcs are fucking op and yeah Goku stoms Supes
You throw in the Alpha ARCs in there and none of the Nulls or Bad Batch stand a chance. High casualties on the Alphas but they'll manage. Unless you team up both the Bad Batch with the Nulls which the Alphas with have a slight problem.
How are alpha arcs better than nulls??
@@xrnil3089 there are 100 alpha arcs, 6 nulls, and 5 in the bad batch, he is referring to the full set of alphas at once, so he makes a valid point
ARC Troopers All Day
For the record, Supes would End Goku so fast that there would be a sonic boom.
Who would put up a bigger fight against the Nulls Delta Squad or B.B.? Also did Ordo and Fordo ever meet?
Delta Squad without a doubt, because they don’t have cartoony personalities or slapstick behaviour.
ViolentScorl ur right there I feel like they were meant to be like that the “supers” of the clones while the Delta Squad were the legends of the Clones
@Nathan Willard Mitchell yeah honestly that would've been awesome but a little awkward since their names r so similar.
Nathan Willard Mitchell lol same here until I saw this video that talked abt Ordo and the Nulls at the same time
Nathan Willard Mitchell 😂
I think the bad batch is the Disney canon version of the nulls actually
Bring back Clan Skirata in the Bad Batch show and have the Bad Batch personally tasked by Vader to hunt and destroy the Nulls, maybe have Delta Squad in there as well
Imo you should have atleast added echo
I cant believe you gave wrecker a 4 on intelligence it should've been a 3 at most, they made him out to be basically a well trained dog in the clone wars.
Love clone wars
Delta squad vs bad batch like for delta reply bad batch
It would‘ve been better if the Bad Batch would be a Republic commando, it would make the Episodes/arcs waaaay More interestic and nostalgic
Are you also Majorkill?
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Didn’t Skirata train the Nulls to be able to use most types of weapons?
Did bad batch feel like fan fiction to anyone else.
What about delta ?
Interesting.
I’d go with a simultaneous obstacle course & I would have the exact number of combatants. Lets have Clone Force 99, Clone Commandos, and four Arcs go through planet Lola Sayu’s Citidal (simulation of course). Aside from the combatants, the obstacle course in question needs to be Difficult, which is why I chose this obstacle course. All combatants are supposed to lose, we’re just seeing how long they last & such…
Cool scenario! I’d like to see how that plays out, especially considering ARCs usually work alone
True, ViolentScorl, but to be fair, it’ll be a team of four…
the Doomslayer vs Jeff goldblum......... hmmm
The ARC’s are clearly the best
Wait wait wait…. Jeff Goldblum?
Nulls would get a 13 because they have better intelligence scores than every other Commando unit and not limited to bad batch's smartest members