Now that you've done a video on Clone Commando's I think it'd be only fair to make a video on their counterpart the BX Droid Commando's. Those guys were badass and freaking terrifying. Even in the newer Bad Batch series they remain a force to be reckoned with.
I thought I remember seeing in peril commandos in one soft Star wars thing simply known as Force unleashed I thought they were an enemy you could encounter I could be wrong on this Miss remembering things but it's worth looking into
“If the Kaminoans wanted trandoshans to live they wouldn’t have made me.” - RC1138 “Boss” moments before swapping to the anti-armor variant of the DC-17m in front of a trandoshan orphanage.
Pal I love Trandoshans and all but the Kaminoans are smoking the Sith Crack. Those kids would gladly turn Kaminoans into skin rugs to satisfy their space hunting.
Fact the orginal mandalorians were an alien species from corosaunt called the tong but were driven off by the humans thousands of years ago were they eventually landed on mandalore
To prove how hard Delta went, Sev stated (in the Republic Commando books) that by the end of the war he intended to kill 4,982 Geonosians because that's exactly how many of his brothers died on Geonosis.
There ARE many instances and circumstances where the Imperium could win in theory. There are also instances and circumstances where the Republic could win.
@@theinquisitor8112not really, the main reason 40k could never win, particularly in modern lore, is that any plantery governor would happily swap to to the side of the republic lic or the empire if they were promised no taxes, and with primarchs, do you think girlymen would like the hellstate that needs human brains to make an automatic door, or the one that can cross the galaxy inside of a week
For those who are less familiar with hard Old Republic Mandalorians went. When they went to war with the Jedi they had to deal with Jedi blocking their blaster fire with lightsabers. Their solution was old school lead ballistics, because sure a Jedi can still react fast enough to put their lightsaber in front of them, but that just turned the supersonic hunk of lead into a supersonic splatter of super heated lead shrapnel flying into the Jedi's face.
Where did you get this info? I don't remember any time where mandalorians used slug throwers on jedi to a significant degree. In fact, there have been periods of 1,000s of years in which slugthrowers were common and the jedi thrived. The closest things to this I can remember is when obi wan in canon blocked a bullet, and the shrapnel splattered him. In Legends mace windo could intercept hypersonic bullets, but sometimes his lightsaber didn't vaporize the whole bullet and it splattered him, but not to a serious degree.
@@myduckisonqauck7227Psst, friend, over here. Wanna hear a secret? Quietly now.... Its because it doesn't exist. Mando's using slugthrowers is one of those fandom-generated myths that has become so widely known and 'accepted' that its basically a social contagion, much like the whole 'Vader has a -10 to saving throws against lightning'.
@@myduckisonqauck7227Also, quick sidenote; Kenobi blocking a bullet and getting splattered somewhat was from a new canon comic, not old, and the case you are almost certainly thinking of of Windu vs hypersonic slugs does not involve him getting splattered at all.
@@papapalps2415 I'm aware about the kenobi thing being new canon, but I remember mace missing the whole bullet a few times, but I guess I'm miss remembering
2000’s Star Wars is just built different. Also gotta love that the people behind the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, were like. “You know what’s cooler than 1 special forces super soldiers? 2 special forces super soldiers.” ARC troopers and Clone Commando’s are just really cool, and I like that they both feel like they fit within the setting perfectly. ARC troopers are treated much like the Spartan’s of Halo, sure they can do stealth missions well behind enemy lines , most of the time they are either on the front lines leading troops, or blowing up nearby important targets. Meanwhile the Commando’s are almost always hiding in the shadows of C.I.S. waiting for the perfect target to strike well behind enemy lines. I feel like the the coolest thing would be an ARC trooper game that uses the Halo trilogy as a basis, with giant battlefields, multiple basic soldiers and vehicle gameplay. Meanwhile, a Commando game could refine the original Republic Commando with squad gameplay as the core mechanic, with maybe more expanded stealth gameplay as well as having its own cool set pieces.
I always thought of the ARCs as Spartan II equivalents and the commandos as Spartan IIIs. I would also say that two ARC troopers could take a Spartan II in a fight.
@@samaritan_sys k, I didn’t mention Filoni, I was talking about the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, which is all prequel era material released from Attack of the Clones to the end of 2006, from what I understand. Which includes, CW 2003, Republic Commando game and novels, Star Wars The Clone Wars 2002 Game, Star Wars Bounty Hunter, Jedi Starfighter, a good chunk of the Republic comics, ect…
If you want to tell when a Star Wars fan has played Republic Commando, just show them the part from the last Mandalorian season with the sprinting Super Battle Droid and watch their reaction.
*Vietnam flashbacks* Honestly, if the lore SBDs used the ones from Republic Commando, Palpatine wouldn't have needed a civil war to bring down the Republic.
@@tedasaurusrex4402 I meant cooler than you since you are bound by the laws of reality, meaning your life's gonna be more boring than a fictional supersoldier. I didn't mean to drag up family drama.
When "Vode An" kicked in I immediately got goosebumps and involuntarily started singing along, despite the fact that the last time I heard this song was like ten years ago. I was obsessed with Star Wars when I was a kid, and in my humble opinion Republic Commando was one of the best things this franchise gave to us. Now, that's what I call blast from the past. Thank you for making me remember this gem of a game. Gonna get a copy
Fun fact: the reason the song Vode An mentions Coruscant isn't because it was made by the republic or clones, but because it is an actual ancient Mandalorian war song. The ancestors of the Mandalorians were originally one of the two species that lived on ancient Coruscant, but were exiled thousands of years ago and eventually found Mandalore to settle on. Many of their songs and stories recall that history and Coruscant is still seen as an important cultural location for them
the books mention that the kaminos and the mandalorian trainers for the commandos bastardized an old song, adding in a whole bunch about coruscant and the jedi
@@cc0767 there's a legends series, the republic commando novels by Karen Traviss. it follows one of the commando squads throughout the war, though it never got finished unfortunately
And it pissed me off so bad. The cliffhanger actually shook me. It was like losing Cortana. But they haven't made a second one, and the various books I read about the clone commandos also did not tie up that huge issue.
@@taoofjester4113that’s the problem with a lot of the clone wars era stuff pre Disney because everything regarding the movie and beyond had already been written in for so there was like zero room especially by 2005 for more additions beyond stuff that happened in the clone wars and directly after. I imagine if like half the clone wars characters that existed post the movies were written in the entirety of the post empire era would have to be redone with Ashoka and clone wars stuff
Arcs vs Commandos depends on what version of the Arcs you're comparing. Ones like Fives and Echo would get wrecked, but the Nulls and Alphas thats something else.
I can't stand the new canon of "uhh we just trained new ones from infantry clones by yelling at them" when the original canon used this much more appropriately to describe the new class of clone battlefield officers. Yeah nah dude, the original ARCs were stone cold Jango clones.
@@echodelta2172Yeah OG ARCs were the perfect Clones. As in, Clone Commandos are the perfect Clone Trooper, but ARC Troopers were the perfect clone of Jango. They were gruff and independent and most Mandalorian-like.
The bad batch feel like bootleg null troopers. Idk how the kamanoins let them live after they were going to incinerate the null troopers for being too rebellious at 3 years old.
@@soupcake3092because the bad batch just like Omega where the pet project of THE caminoan sientist in charge of the cloning program. Eliminating a prototype that doesn’t perform like it should aka the nulls is something the caminoans would very much do. Killing your bosses baby dogs how ever is a surefire way to have quality control go way down.
8.35. I'm glad you brought that up. People have been saying that the Jedi were corrupt for going after Palpatine in that scene because he was the Republic's leader, even though he's also an evil space wizard who orchestrated a massive war to gain said leadership in the first place. Not to mention that Mace did originally try to arrest him before he killed the other Jedi.
Gotta say: Having Palpatine LOIC'd only to have his contingency plans go into effect, would've been a far more intriguing prequel trilogy. Also, would've made it pretty easy to 'hang' the Jedi for it, negating the 'entire need' of Order 66. From the PoV of 'new canon', if it had been laid out better, it would've allowed Disney to 'Chekov's Gun' with the Palpatine Clones. (The Jedi would *know* Palpatine died, but his clone would claim he faked his death to avoid the Jedi Conspiracy's Assassination Plot)
Legends was a mixed bag. The Bantam stuff was awesome (original Thrawn trilogy and Hand of Thrawn, X-Wing, a few others), but could be hit or miss. Dark Horse, same (loved their "Legacy" stuff set a century later). But then they lost the license, Del Rey and Marvel took over, and the goofy stuff went from about half to 99%. By the time Disney pulled the plug, it was a mercy.
those books turned into absolute soap operas after the first one. The first Republic commando book is still some of the finest military sci fi ever printed.
@@echodelta2172From what I understand Karen Traviss didn't really know anything about Star Wars and kinda projected her own ideas about it onto those books. They're very divisive books.
@@Calvin_CoolageThen you’ve heard from the wrong people. Karen Traviss is basically responsible for a good half of all Mandalorian cultural lore, pre-Filoni. She is a massive part of the reason why they were fleshed-out enough to be so popular, and I don’t blame her I the slightest for declining to continue her writing contract after Filoni bastardized Mandalorian lore.
@@SpiralKingScorch She was very open with the fact she had seen maybe 2 of the films and had little interest in seeing the rest. Apparently, her impression of the Jedi was so bad she would go on to bad mouth them for years afterwards irl and in her SW work.
Its unbelievable how amazing Star Wars games were 15-20 years ago. Jedi Knight, EaW, Kotor, Republic Commando, Battlefront, Force Unleashed.. With all these remasters coming out now I really hope we get a Republic Commando one, maybe even for VR? Imagine how awesome that visor swipe animation would feel in VR.
Republic commandos fit the profile of a space marine more than the Adeptus Astartes do. They come in, blow someone or something up that's vital to the enemy war effort, then disappear before more enemy troops arrive. The Adeptus Astartes feel more like Jedi with guns and power armor, minus the common sense.
@@britishrex5515 That was Karen Traviss making stuff up. In the actual Republic Commando game, the Jedi on Geonosis ordered the commandos to assassinate enemy VIPs, destroy droid factories, and sabotage enemy warships.
To be fair, Space Marines were not made by the Emperor to be special forces troops, they were made to be the main army to conquer a galaxy. They only got regulated to more limited special forces roles after the Horus Heresy.
Clone Commandos are so badass! Republic Commando was a great Star Wars game and I loved playing it! And Vode An is one of the pieces of Star Wars music ever!
Vode An tells how the ancient Taung (the original Mandolorian species) fought against the Courisanti natives. During their planet wide war, a volcano erupted covering a sizable portion of the sky with ash. Which lead to a semi-victory for the Taung. But they lost. And we sent offworld. And then the Taung landed on what would become Mandalore. The T-shape visor was originally because of the Tsing’s head and eye configuration. But is was adapted for many other species over the years. Rodians, Wookiees, even a Hutt was inducted into the Mandolorians.
@@LordErebusBloodmoonEhh the books had been alowly declining in quality and jumped off a cliff in Order 66, not really managing the transition to the darker edge smoothly.
@@DIEGhostfish eh i disagree, and while there were a few shenanigans i did really enjoy the later books and felt that the first one was my least enjoyable read, still enjoyed it but still.
Full agreement on Vode An. That song ALONE was worth the price of admission. The fact that the rest of the game was noting short of fantastic was nice too though.
Gregor is peak clone commando. Man escaped a disasterous battle that(aside from himself) had a 100% mortality rate, soloed a droid army, survived the explosion of an entire fuel depot, and although his sanity isn’t necessarily in tact anymore he still managed to get to republic space and then was deemed worthy to train the next gen of soldiers, deserted, and still survived to the age of rebellion. Granted he still was the first to die out of the trio of Rex, Wolfe, and himself but still man has a stacked resume
I adore the Republic Commando game so much. One of the truly last great Star Wars games ever made (no I don’t count anything Disney Wars). I wish we had gotten the Imperial Commando sequel, but LucasArts had gone on crazy pills at that time and cancelled both that, KotOR 3 and the 99% finished Battlefront 3.
I played Republic Conmando's campaign so much as a child I can still quote it as an adult. Multiplayer was a lot of fun too - always great playing as a Trandoshan!
I think what REALLY bothered me about the canon Commandos is that we almost never see them in the clone wars series ESPECIALLY on missions that they were specifically designed for like maybe the Citadel infiltration. We suddenly see a lot of them in the Bad Batch series as bodyguards for Imperial VIPs.
Its a crime we only saw them TWICE in the entire clone wars show and it was around 5 minutes max. They would’ve been perfect in the citadel mission with the infiltration and on Umbara with the jungle like environment. Hell I would’ve sent em in the lair of grievous too
Vode An is one of the hardest slapping themes from a game, and very much sets the proper mood for the setting. Other contenders, for me at least, would be the Culling of Stratholme from WoW. Would be interesting to get your take on Warcraft Lore, at least before Cata killed the setting.
7:05 The exact translation, for those unaware: _Bal kote!_ (And glory!) _Darasuum kote!_ (Eternal Glory!) _Jorso'ran kando a tome!_ (We shall bear its weight together!) _Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, vode an!_ (Forged like sabers in the fires of death, brothers all!) This is only part of the song, though. This is the full version: _Kote!_ (Glory!) _Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an._ (One indomitable heart, brothers all.) _Mandalore a'den mhi, Vode an._ (We, the wrath of Coruscant, brothers all.) _Bal kote, darasuum kote,_ (And glory, eternal glory,) _Jorso'ran kando a tome._ (We shall bear its weight together.) _Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an._ (Forged like sabres in the fires of death, brothers all.) _Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an._ (One indomitable heart, brothers all.) _Coruscanta a'den mhi, Vode an._ (We, the wrath of Coruscant, brothers all.) _Bal..._ (And...) _Motir ca'tra nau tracinya._ (Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.) _Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a._ (Our vengeance burns brighter still.) _Aruetyc talyc runi'la solus cet o'r._ (Every last traitorous soul shall kneel.) _Motir ca'tra nau tracinya._ (Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.) _Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a._ (Our vengeance burns brighter still.) _Aruetyc talyc runi'la trattok'o._ (Every last traitorous soul shall fall.) _Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an!_ (Forged like sabers in the fires of death, brothers all!) In order to make this the traditional Mandalorian version, replace "Coruscanta" with "Mandalore". Also, this song gives interesting implications about Mandalore's past. Since it wasn't the Commandos that came up with this, who did? Who thought to make lyrics centering around killing traitors--one of the greatest sins imaginable in Mandalorian culture? Who betrayed Mandalore to such an incredible degree?
@@ladywaffle2210A volcano, and humans. So they had this thing were they wanted to hunt down all humans, because they make good prey. This went well for them, the Taung not the humans. The Taung only got defeated when the planet got kicked into a volcanic winter. They were then banished off world, and then set up shop on a little planet called Mandalore.
Delta Squad is a prime example of the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” cohesion. Boss is the leader, Fixer has a way with machines, Sev has the most attitude, and Scorch is one of a kind. But seriously, I loved republic commando, Boss is one of the reasons I go by BossEvasion, the other being Big Boss from MGS. And I always use his color scheme whenever I play a game that has power armor of some sort in it. Especially Halo.
Fun (maybe) fact, there’s a Jedi that had a child with a clone commander, (I don’t exactly remember what happened off the top of my head) so if he’s raised right there’s a chance that we can have a force sensitive commando
@@ladywaffle2210Yep! Etain Tur-Mukan and RC-1136 Darman met on the planet Qiilura, fell I love as the war progressed, and eventually had a child together.
You should definitely read the books, because the greater lore of Skirata, his deserters and the whole Special Unit is just fascinating for a guy like you
No, no they did not. That's the normal Dee Bradley Baker voicework. His voiceactor was onlynpaid for use in a game, re using his recorded lines in a TV show would be a contract violation.
Rule #1: Kill them before they kill you. Rule #17: Always make sure they're dead. Rule #23: Never pull sentry duty on an empty stomach. Rule #39: Never say no to bacta. Rule #48: Any crash you can walk away from is a good one. Rule #89: One's an anomaly, two's a trend.
I would suggest looking up the dark troopers. The Legends version. It is actually tragic, but basically, the 1st generation were cyborgs, and the components used to make them were clone arc troopers and clone commandoes. Basically, they became mostly droids that fought for the empire with a droid brain.
The Arc Troopers are very cool soldiers to. You may want to check out Captain Fordo from the Star Wars Clone Wars Volume 1&2 Animated series. His weapons are very potent and his group's combat efficiency is extremely good. Almost Spartan 2 & Astartes level of skill for a guy who doesn't have any body manipulations and augmentations on him.
Given that the commandos are genetically enhanced, the specialized armor and weapons they hit all the traits for super soldiers to me. In my opinion their cooler than 40k marines.
Space marines have all of those but better In every category, except lack of shielding on the armor. Admittedly I do like them more than marines cus of looks and sw over 40k cus not as grimdark but in a straight fight a marine would slaughter a commando.
Republic Commando is like my top 3 star wars games, its just so unique compared to most other games that were made within Star Wars. It almost feels like the same tone as like, COD 4 but as a Star Wars game, with that dark grit paired with a little humor in your squadmates. Commandos bred from a Mandalorian and trained like Mandalorians are a force to be reckoned with. I hope the game gets a sequel and I also don't because Disney wouldn't be very faithful.
Sev may not have died in Legends. Leaks about the potential Republic Commando 2 has Sev leading an early rebel cell and actually fighting the rest of Delta squad. I really wish we got that game
Hey, a video about my favorite Star Wars characters, featuring my favorite Star Wars game! And dear Lord those Super Battle Droids earned their name in that game.
Not only was the game great, but the books are fantastic as well. Triple Zero is probably my favorite star wars book to date, and it really fleshed out both thw mandalorians and the clones and their part in the war This was of course before the clone wars show, but honestly, the republic commando books dont break the new canon that often iirc. So in my mind most of the Republic Commando lore is still there
Fun fact for the Bad Batch. When that commando appeared on screen, the accompanying behind the scenes page stated he was inspired by Scorch. Unfortunately someone at Disney didn't like that and in another episode where he appears it is stated he IS Scorch. I am of the opinion that commando is not Scorch. As Pancreas said, doesn't sound like him, doesn't act like him, so it ain't him.
Scorch doesn't have a unique voice to non-clones, this is stated in the Republic Commando novels. The way we hear the members of Delta Squad talk in the game is only how they hear each other as clones and NOT what they sound like to others outside of the GAR. Also, the way Scorch is acting in Bad Batch is pretty on point with how he was in Legends post order 66. After losing Sev on Kashyyyk, Scorch lost most of his sense of humor and became rather bitter.
Been trying to find out what Voda an was from for months now, and am very glad to finally figure out where I heard it from. Thanks for the great video as usual.
If you think _any_ numerically equal group in Star Wars except _maybe_ Jedi and Sith could beat- much less body- ARC troopers you’re deranged. And yes, I’m including Mandalorians in that. It’s extremely eugenics-y, but Jango was basically the _perfect_ human specimen and held all his clones to a high standard, much less the ARC troopers personally trained by himself & Kal Skirata.
The 100 Alpha ARCs that were trained by Jango Fett and the six Null ARCs that were trained by Kal Skirata, yes, but the numerous cross-trained ARCs that started out as regular infantry troopers, no.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 Well yes. ARCs like Jesse, Fives, and Echo would get bodied by Commandos in squads. Maybe someone like Cody or Rex (technically ARC commanders) could take on an individual RC but most are losing that fight too. Alpha’s and Nulls win against basically any single opponent who isn’t also an alpha, null, Jedi _master_, or Galaxy renown bounty Hunter (Durge canonically was too much for Fordo to handle for example, Cad Bane might be able to handle 1v1’s if Hunter & Boba Fett are anything to go off of).
@JustinHelms Rex and Cody, along with many other commanders like Bly, Gree, Neyo etc., are in a weird spot with being called ARCs. They were all trained in Alpha-17's ARC Training Program for extra leadership skills and more independent thought, but they aren't Advanced Recon Commandos as they don't do ARC missions.
ahh. Republic commandos. A game where the genocians have laser beams, super battle droids will call you a meat bag before stomping you into the ground, and where Wookiees were canonically twice your height and three times your width.
Since many super soldiers ate based on the impression of Navy SEALs, do the clones also take courses in book writing? Movie script negotiations, coffee or tactical gear company start up? Jokes aside, I've always liked the clone troopers for succeeding despite facing opponents that generally have enough plot armor to rival the Millennium Falcon with 5 protagonists on board. That takes good, unbiased writing.
Oh I’m sorry, The Yuzong what? Chewie had to be killed by dropping a moon on him?! Palpatine cloning himself via sith magic?!?! More please, right into my veins.
Depends on what type or ARC trooper you're referring to. Null and Alpha class ARCs would definitely body any clone commando because they are all practically Carbon copies of Jango Fett instead of clone soldiers. But the later Beta class ARC troopers are just regular clones with special training. So a clone commando would definitely be able to take all but the best (Rex or Fives) on in a 1v1
Speaking of the OST, Rage of the Shadow Warriors is the greatest hype song I've ever heard in a video game. I will die on this hill, didgeridoo and war bongos in hand.
That whole part about 5000 commandos dying because of Jedi tactics on Geonosis was due to Karen Traviss making crap up to make the Jedi look bad. In the actual Republic Commando game, the Jedi on Geonosis sent the commandos on raiding and assassination missions; destroy a factory here, kill some important moron there, blow up a starship, mission over. The Jedi only suck at tactics in Karen Traviss' books because her hatred of the Jedi is only matched by Garth Ennis' hatred of superheroes. So she wrote them as morons because she hates them, whereas every other piece of Legends content regarding the matter portrayed the Jedi as either mid-level generals or sometimes, some of the best.
In the Republic Commando game, we LITERALLY only know that Delta Squad and Theta Squad were sent on spec ops missions, which is consistent with the Karen Traviss novels where Delta, Theta, and many other squads are sent to the factories and catacombs, where many RCs are killed. The Jedi using a number of the RCs as regular infantry on Geonosis, and getting many of them killed in the process, is consistent with a lot of the Clone Wars Multimedia Project stories of the time where the Jedi weren't often very good military commanders and got many of their men killed in their blind charges against enemy lines and other foolish tactics.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 False. Much of the Clone Wars Multimedia project depicts Jedi as decent generals, most of whom are conservative with the lives of their men. Anakin's the one who goes on banzai charges against the enemy, and guess what, HIS MEN LOVE HIM! The rest of the Jedi adapt a more defensive stance in battle, preferring to get the most of their men alive out of combat rather than destroying the enemy, hence why seasoned officers like Admiral Tarkin who prefer the total annihilation of the enemy dislike the Jedi for being too squeamish about casualties. Also, the Republic Commando game makes no mention of massive casualties among the Commandos. They don't talk about how Windu led half the Commandos to die; all they did was operator stuff, the kind of stuff they were trained for, the kind of stuff the Jedi sent them on. So no, Karen Traviss is not consistent with the rest of the lore for the Clone Wars Legends continuity. There's a reason why the clones admired their Jedi generals and were mostly regretful over Order 66. "They're good. No words needed. Perfect sync. Like clones in a way. Better. They're the best. That's why they command." ―Republic clone trooper commander "Bly", Star Wars Republic Issue 68 "It's been said that the 501st got the best of the war. We also got the worst. On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day. Cut off and for all we knew abandoned by our superiors, our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much. When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye." -501st Clone Trooper on Aayla Secura's command of the clones on Felucia, Star Wars Battlefront 2 classic. So yes, massive Clone Commando casualties on Geonosis was Karen Traviss bullshitting off her ass. None of the other Clone Wars media mention it, the movie just shows the clones winning under Jedi leadership, and the Clone Commando game shows that the Jedi DID deploy the Clone Commandos properly, sending them on operator stuff while the Jedi and the regular clones faced the enemy head-on.
I can't recommend the Republic Commando book series highly enough; they're easily some of the best EU material ever produced. Karen Traviss gave us a view of the Clone Wars which was far more logically-consistent, nuanced, and believable than anything Lucas or the Mouse ever could, and it's a crime that it ended with Imperial Commando. Her take on Order 66 was nothing short of inspired. You got such stuff as Sep dirty bombs, ARC Troopers given to Jedi commanders as triggermen, counter-Republic financial warfare... it was great
Its unbelievably bizarre to watch people unironically praising the Travissisty books as some minor masterpieces or such. Its borderline surreal considering what's actually written therein.
@@papapalps2415 Eh they aren't perfect and lampoon the Jedi to an absurd degree, but her version of the Clone Wars makes a lot more sense than other media
@@sgtpepper0spray It really, really, really doesn't. And infact, I actually struggle to think of a 'version' of the CW that makes less sense. Although, in that light, what, exactly, do you think she presents the CW as being?
Do you prefer the Katarn armor with a true energy shield, or do you like the book's approach where it's just the armor's ability to absorb and release heat and other damage?
Ideally I'd go with the KOTOR route of energy shields being very commonplace, but if not then I'd say the latter explanation fits in more with the movies
@@nagger8216 I always figured that the personal shields we see in Kotor eventually just got outpaced by blasters and were discarded after they couldn't be made powerful enough to catch up without compromising their portability.
@@screamingcactus1753in game the explanation is that, A, galaxy is at war and all of the good guns are being sent to the front lines and, B, due to said war the arms race of better armor and arms was in full swing and blasters hadn’t caught up yet.
I do love me some republic commandos, and I do love me some pancreas video! Sadly, they also always come with Karen Traviss's godawful braindead jedi takes, and I am sad to see those make their way into this video, even in small doses. Still, great video overall.
People can shit on Karen Traviss all they want, I love the story of Omega and the extra lore about Delta as well as the darker way she portrayed Jedi/Republic's corruption. Shit was dope, great addition to the games
11:20 The reason they were robbing the bank is because they along with a ton of other clones were planning to desert unmasse and knew they were going to need a lot of money to start their new lives.
"Bad batch" does a good job displaying how that "brain chip" altered the clones behaviour, as it made them less emotional, more robotic and generally more akin to well, clankers, "heck", they became less emotional than the B1 battle droids.. ..The clankers often saying things like "halt, Jedi!", "Roger-Roger!" and so forth.
8:30 An interesting historical precedent for this kind of behavior from (the equivalent of) the officer class is stories from WW2 Allied Paratroopers and Ranger elements. Uninformed officers would take a scout platoon and tell them to hold ground like any other Infantry Division. Often they did it pretty well anyway because they get down like that, but it's a learning curve they didn't ask for and had to achieve it with the wrong equipment.
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Now that you've done a video on Clone Commando's I think it'd be only fair to make a video on their counterpart the BX Droid Commando's. Those guys were badass and freaking terrifying. Even in the newer Bad Batch series they remain a force to be reckoned with.
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ua-cam.com/video/yBlZt-LU2XI/v-deo.html This exists btw since you like Vode An and the Halo Theme so much, why not combine them?
I thought I remember seeing in peril commandos in one soft Star wars thing simply known as Force unleashed I thought they were an enemy you could encounter I could be wrong on this Miss remembering things but it's worth looking into
Man can we have a ynari lore video?
“If the Kaminoans wanted trandoshans to live they wouldn’t have made me.” - RC1138 “Boss” moments before swapping to the anti-armor variant of the DC-17m in front of a trandoshan orphanage.
Pal I love Trandoshans and all but the Kaminoans are smoking the Sith Crack. Those kids would gladly turn Kaminoans into skin rugs to satisfy their space hunting.
Brutal.
Fact the orginal mandalorians were an alien species from corosaunt called the tong but were driven off by the humans thousands of years ago were they eventually landed on mandalore
That makes no sense, since it implies kaminoans are responsible for trandoshans.
@@Bacxaber Spoken like something a trando would say.
To prove how hard Delta went, Sev stated (in the Republic Commando books) that by the end of the war he intended to kill 4,982 Geonosians because that's exactly how many of his brothers died on Geonosis.
He probably fucking succeeded tbh
@@ladywaffle2210Sadly, Sev never managed to reach his goal before he went MIA on Kashyyyk.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102well we never saw a body so who knows, he may well have gone in and done that solo
@@MothFableexactly
@@MothFable, I always thought he decided to find and chill with Tarfful after being left on Kashyyyk. It just makes sense to me.
Windu would definitely be the guy who says Warhammer wins by default in any “vs” discussion
People who say that belongs in the deepest darkest pit. Unless it’s Nagash or Karl Franz. Then there correct
There ARE many instances and circumstances where the Imperium could win in theory. There are also instances and circumstances where the Republic could win.
@@theinquisitor8112not really, the main reason 40k could never win, particularly in modern lore, is that any plantery governor would happily swap to to the side of the republic lic or the empire if they were promised no taxes, and with primarchs, do you think girlymen would like the hellstate that needs human brains to make an automatic door, or the one that can cross the galaxy inside of a week
@@calebbarnhouse496half of them did just join satan cause they said it would be epic
I could have sworn EckhartsLadder made a versus video like this (with the Man-Emperor himself entering the fray) but I can't find it anywhere now.
“I find a bug that thinks offensive!” Great Starship Trooper quote.
Followed by rabid, uproarious applause
For those who are less familiar with hard Old Republic Mandalorians went. When they went to war with the Jedi they had to deal with Jedi blocking their blaster fire with lightsabers. Their solution was old school lead ballistics, because sure a Jedi can still react fast enough to put their lightsaber in front of them, but that just turned the supersonic hunk of lead into a supersonic splatter of super heated lead shrapnel flying into the Jedi's face.
Where did you get this info? I don't remember any time where mandalorians used slug throwers on jedi to a significant degree. In fact, there have been periods of 1,000s of years in which slugthrowers were common and the jedi thrived.
The closest things to this I can remember is when obi wan in canon blocked a bullet, and the shrapnel splattered him. In Legends mace windo could intercept hypersonic bullets, but sometimes his lightsaber didn't vaporize the whole bullet and it splattered him, but not to a serious degree.
Mandalorian logic was that since jedi can block lasers let's see how well they do against buckshot and flamethrowers.
@@myduckisonqauck7227Psst, friend, over here. Wanna hear a secret? Quietly now....
Its because it doesn't exist. Mando's using slugthrowers is one of those fandom-generated myths that has become so widely known and 'accepted' that its basically a social contagion, much like the whole 'Vader has a -10 to saving throws against lightning'.
@@myduckisonqauck7227Also, quick sidenote; Kenobi blocking a bullet and getting splattered somewhat was from a new canon comic, not old, and the case you are almost certainly thinking of of Windu vs hypersonic slugs does not involve him getting splattered at all.
@@papapalps2415 I'm aware about the kenobi thing being new canon, but I remember mace missing the whole bullet a few times, but I guess I'm miss remembering
2000’s Star Wars is just built different.
Also gotta love that the people behind the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, were like. “You know what’s cooler than 1 special forces super soldiers? 2 special forces super soldiers.”
ARC troopers and Clone Commando’s are just really cool, and I like that they both feel like they fit within the setting perfectly. ARC troopers are treated much like the Spartan’s of Halo, sure they can do stealth missions well behind enemy lines , most of the time they are either on the front lines leading troops, or blowing up nearby important targets. Meanwhile the Commando’s are almost always hiding in the shadows of C.I.S. waiting for the perfect target to strike well behind enemy lines.
I feel like the the coolest thing would be an ARC trooper game that uses the Halo trilogy as a basis, with giant battlefields, multiple basic soldiers and vehicle gameplay.
Meanwhile, a Commando game could refine the original Republic Commando with squad gameplay as the core mechanic, with maybe more expanded stealth gameplay as well as having its own cool set pieces.
Thatd be sick
I always thought of the ARCs as Spartan II equivalents and the commandos as Spartan IIIs.
I would also say that two ARC troopers could take a Spartan II in a fight.
Filoni didn’t make ARC-troopers, they also originated in pre-Filoni canon and feature pretty heavily in the Republic Commando books.
@@samaritan_sys facts
@@samaritan_sys k, I didn’t mention Filoni, I was talking about the Clone Wars Multimedia Project, which is all prequel era material released from Attack of the Clones to the end of 2006, from what I understand.
Which includes, CW 2003, Republic Commando game and novels, Star Wars The Clone Wars 2002 Game, Star Wars Bounty Hunter, Jedi Starfighter, a good chunk of the Republic comics, ect…
If you want to tell when a Star Wars fan has played Republic Commando, just show them the part from the last Mandalorian season with the sprinting Super Battle Droid and watch their reaction.
*Vietnam flashbacks*
Honestly, if the lore SBDs used the ones from Republic Commando, Palpatine wouldn't have needed a civil war to bring down the Republic.
SBDs ran in tons of games
Fighting those bastards makes Mando's droid paranoia very understandable.
battlefront 2 cancels it out tho
@@DCPTF2But were only scary in Repcom. Where all your guns suck.
My dad actually created the character concept for scorch, his personality and the such. And I am forever thankful for him.
So he'a basically your cooler imaginary brother.
@DIEGhostfish my actual brother is a complete, terminally online degenerate so. I'm actually gonna say yes.
@@tedasaurusrex4402 I meant cooler than you since you are bound by the laws of reality, meaning your life's gonna be more boring than a fictional supersoldier. I didn't mean to drag up family drama.
@DIEGhostfish nono your totally fine lmao, fun to make fun of him sometimes.
That’s a true claim to fame. You must have a cool family :)
"An elegant weapon for more civilised times eh? Well guess what......times have changed!"
Most badass put down ever!
When "Vode An" kicked in I immediately got goosebumps and involuntarily started singing along, despite the fact that the last time I heard this song was like ten years ago. I was obsessed with Star Wars when I was a kid, and in my humble opinion Republic Commando was one of the best things this franchise gave to us. Now, that's what I call blast from the past. Thank you for making me remember this gem of a game. Gonna get a copy
Fun fact: the reason the song Vode An mentions Coruscant isn't because it was made by the republic or clones, but because it is an actual ancient Mandalorian war song. The ancestors of the Mandalorians were originally one of the two species that lived on ancient Coruscant, but were exiled thousands of years ago and eventually found Mandalore to settle on. Many of their songs and stories recall that history and Coruscant is still seen as an important cultural location for them
Unless I forgot this is the first time I heard about this.
the books mention that the kaminos and the mandalorian trainers for the commandos bastardized an old song, adding in a whole bunch about coruscant and the jedi
@@sammasse4016 which books
@@cc0767 there's a legends series, the republic commando novels by Karen Traviss. it follows one of the commando squads throughout the war, though it never got finished unfortunately
Yes, but they called Coruscant Notron
Can’t say I expected this, but I am pleasantly surprised. This game was an absolute blast.
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
And it pissed me off so bad. The cliffhanger actually shook me. It was like losing Cortana. But they haven't made a second one, and the various books I read about the clone commandos also did not tie up that huge issue.
@@taoofjester4113that’s the problem with a lot of the clone wars era stuff pre Disney because everything regarding the movie and beyond had already been written in for so there was like zero room especially by 2005 for more additions beyond stuff that happened in the clone wars and directly after.
I imagine if like half the clone wars characters that existed post the movies were written in the entirety of the post empire era would have to be redone with Ashoka and clone wars stuff
Arcs vs Commandos depends on what version of the Arcs you're comparing. Ones like Fives and Echo would get wrecked, but the Nulls and Alphas thats something else.
I can't stand the new canon of "uhh we just trained new ones from infantry clones by yelling at them" when the original canon used this much more appropriately to describe the new class of clone battlefield officers.
Yeah nah dude, the original ARCs were stone cold Jango clones.
@@echodelta2172Yeah OG ARCs were the perfect Clones. As in, Clone Commandos are the perfect Clone Trooper, but ARC Troopers were the perfect clone of Jango. They were gruff and independent and most Mandalorian-like.
The bad batch feel like bootleg null troopers.
Idk how the kamanoins let them live after they were going to incinerate the null troopers for being too rebellious at 3 years old.
@@soupcake3092because the bad batch just like Omega where the pet project of THE caminoan sientist in charge of the cloning program. Eliminating a prototype that doesn’t perform like it should aka the nulls is something the caminoans would very much do. Killing your bosses baby dogs how ever is a surefire way to have quality control go way down.
@@echodelta2172that's not how arcs work you don't get trained to be an arc selected after distinguished service think odst
8.35. I'm glad you brought that up. People have been saying that the Jedi were corrupt for going after Palpatine in that scene because he was the Republic's leader, even though he's also an evil space wizard who orchestrated a massive war to gain said leadership in the first place. Not to mention that Mace did originally try to arrest him before he killed the other Jedi.
Gotta say:
Having Palpatine LOIC'd only to have his contingency plans go into effect, would've been a far more intriguing prequel trilogy. Also, would've made it pretty easy to 'hang' the Jedi for it, negating the 'entire need' of Order 66.
From the PoV of 'new canon', if it had been laid out better, it would've allowed Disney to 'Chekov's Gun' with the Palpatine Clones.
(The Jedi would *know* Palpatine died, but his clone would claim he faked his death to avoid the Jedi Conspiracy's Assassination Plot)
That *is* exactly what Palpatine wanted them to think.
Republic Commando was the game that got me to read the books, and from there I was hooked on Legends forever. Legends over New Canon any day.
Some legends stuff is lame tho. Like, anything relating to Luke and his family in legends is lame. I love the x-wing series tho
Legends was a mixed bag. The Bantam stuff was awesome (original Thrawn trilogy and Hand of Thrawn, X-Wing, a few others), but could be hit or miss. Dark Horse, same (loved their "Legacy" stuff set a century later). But then they lost the license, Del Rey and Marvel took over, and the goofy stuff went from about half to 99%. By the time Disney pulled the plug, it was a mercy.
FOR THE REPUBLIC!
FOR THE CHANCELLOR!
FOR THE EMPIRE!
THIS NOT A DRILL! REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!
Just like the simulations!
They’ve sent in the supers!
"That's the kind of enemy you break out the warcrimes for"
Beautiful
One of the commandos also had a son with a Jedi, and a group of them joined the Mandalorians.
those books turned into absolute soap operas after the first one. The first Republic commando book is still some of the finest military sci fi ever printed.
@@echodelta2172From what I understand Karen Traviss didn't really know anything about Star Wars and kinda projected her own ideas about it onto those books. They're very divisive books.
@@Calvin_Coolage Then I guess it makes sense that the books would devolve into "soap operas", if the person writing it knows nothing of SW.
@@Calvin_CoolageThen you’ve heard from the wrong people. Karen Traviss is basically responsible for a good half of all Mandalorian cultural lore, pre-Filoni. She is a massive part of the reason why they were fleshed-out enough to be so popular, and I don’t blame her I the slightest for declining to continue her writing contract after Filoni bastardized Mandalorian lore.
@@SpiralKingScorch She was very open with the fact she had seen maybe 2 of the films and had little interest in seeing the rest. Apparently, her impression of the Jedi was so bad she would go on to bad mouth them for years afterwards irl and in her SW work.
Its unbelievable how amazing Star Wars games were 15-20 years ago. Jedi Knight, EaW, Kotor, Republic Commando, Battlefront, Force Unleashed..
With all these remasters coming out now I really hope we get a Republic Commando one, maybe even for VR? Imagine how awesome that visor swipe animation would feel in VR.
How can you be so based with each subsequent upload? Clone commandos are peak Republic troops for sure!
Alpha and Null ARCs are peak republic troops
Yeah my childhood says I got it back the arc troopers on this that and I prefer their aesthetic not that the commandos aren't great
Based...? Another libertarian buttpirate, I see. Barf.
Found this man on accident because of Halo and I have been bingeing these videos because of how entertaining they are
Republic commandos fit the profile of a space marine more than the Adeptus Astartes do. They come in, blow someone or something up that's vital to the enemy war effort, then disappear before more enemy troops arrive. The Adeptus Astartes feel more like Jedi with guns and power armor, minus the common sense.
Bold of you to assume the Jedi have common sense after sending their spec ops troops in a full frontal charge
@@britishrex5515Exactly
@@britishrex5515 That was Karen Traviss making stuff up. In the actual Republic Commando game, the Jedi on Geonosis ordered the commandos to assassinate enemy VIPs, destroy droid factories, and sabotage enemy warships.
To be fair, Space Marines were not made by the Emperor to be special forces troops, they were made to be the main army to conquer a galaxy.
They only got regulated to more limited special forces roles after the Horus Heresy.
@@Rawnblade13 Then why did he make only 2 million of them?
Clone Commandos are so badass! Republic Commando was a great Star Wars game and I loved playing it!
And Vode An is one of the pieces of Star Wars music ever!
Vode An tells how the ancient Taung (the original Mandolorian species) fought against the Courisanti natives. During their planet wide war, a volcano erupted covering a sizable portion of the sky with ash. Which lead to a semi-victory for the Taung. But they lost. And we sent offworld. And then the Taung landed on what would become Mandalore.
The T-shape visor was originally because of the Tsing’s head and eye configuration. But is was adapted for many other species over the years. Rodians, Wookiees, even a Hutt was inducted into the Mandolorians.
The biggest shame that LucasArts did was not given us a sequel to this
Star wars games have been doing well, we still have some hope of getting Imperial Commandos **BREATHES MORE COPIUM**
nah biggest shame is that filoni pissed off Traviss and we will never get a end to the book series
@@LordErebusBloodmoonEhh the books had been alowly declining in quality and jumped off a cliff in Order 66, not really managing the transition to the darker edge smoothly.
@@DIEGhostfish eh i disagree, and while there were a few shenanigans i did really enjoy the later books and felt that the first one was my least enjoyable read, still enjoyed it but still.
@@LordErebusBloodmoonAnd nothing of value was lossed
Full agreement on Vode An. That song ALONE was worth the price of admission. The fact that the rest of the game was noting short of fantastic was nice too though.
Gregor is peak clone commando. Man escaped a disasterous battle that(aside from himself) had a 100% mortality rate, soloed a droid army, survived the explosion of an entire fuel depot, and although his sanity isn’t necessarily in tact anymore he still managed to get to republic space and then was deemed worthy to train the next gen of soldiers, deserted, and still survived to the age of rebellion. Granted he still was the first to die out of the trio of Rex, Wolfe, and himself but still man has a stacked resume
I adore the Republic Commando game so much. One of the truly last great Star Wars games ever made (no I don’t count anything Disney Wars). I wish we had gotten the Imperial Commando sequel, but LucasArts had gone on crazy pills at that time and cancelled both that, KotOR 3 and the 99% finished Battlefront 3.
Hey now, Force Unleashed was cool
@@chronovac Force Unleashed was also great. Then the tacked on sequel came and we all collectively pretended it didn’t exist.
Dont forget 1313. We were robbed of an entire generations worth of great games.
I played Republic Conmando's campaign so much as a child I can still quote it as an adult.
Multiplayer was a lot of fun too - always great playing as a Trandoshan!
Delta (and Atin's) trainer Walon Vau is basically just a pastiche of Lee Van Cleef without a mustache. And Skirata is just a short Clint Eastwood.
Hope this isn't the only time the Raven Guard get mentioned on this channel. The sneaky beakies deserve a little love.
I think what REALLY bothered me about the canon Commandos is that we almost never see them in the clone wars series ESPECIALLY on missions that they were specifically designed for like maybe the Citadel infiltration. We suddenly see a lot of them in the Bad Batch series as bodyguards for Imperial VIPs.
Its a crime we only saw them TWICE in the entire clone wars show and it was around 5 minutes max. They would’ve been perfect in the citadel mission with the infiltration and on Umbara with the jungle like environment. Hell I would’ve sent em in the lair of grievous too
Vode An is one of the hardest slapping themes from a game, and very much sets the proper mood for the setting. Other contenders, for me at least, would be the Culling of Stratholme from WoW.
Would be interesting to get your take on Warcraft Lore, at least before Cata killed the setting.
7:05 The exact translation, for those unaware:
_Bal kote!_ (And glory!)
_Darasuum kote!_ (Eternal Glory!)
_Jorso'ran kando a tome!_ (We shall bear its weight together!)
_Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, vode an!_ (Forged like sabers in the fires of death, brothers all!)
This is only part of the song, though. This is the full version:
_Kote!_ (Glory!)
_Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an._ (One indomitable heart, brothers all.)
_Mandalore a'den mhi, Vode an._ (We, the wrath of Coruscant, brothers all.)
_Bal kote, darasuum kote,_ (And glory, eternal glory,)
_Jorso'ran kando a tome._ (We shall bear its weight together.)
_Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an._ (Forged like sabres in the fires of death, brothers all.)
_Kandosii sa ka'rta, Vode an._ (One indomitable heart, brothers all.)
_Coruscanta a'den mhi, Vode an._ (We, the wrath of Coruscant, brothers all.)
_Bal..._ (And...)
_Motir ca'tra nau tracinya._ (Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.)
_Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a._ (Our vengeance burns brighter still.)
_Aruetyc talyc runi'la solus cet o'r._ (Every last traitorous soul shall kneel.)
_Motir ca'tra nau tracinya._ (Those who stand before us light the night sky in flame.)
_Gra'tua cuun hett su dralshy'a._ (Our vengeance burns brighter still.)
_Aruetyc talyc runi'la trattok'o._ (Every last traitorous soul shall fall.)
_Sa kyr'am nau tracyn kad, Vode an!_ (Forged like sabers in the fires of death, brothers all!)
In order to make this the traditional Mandalorian version, replace "Coruscanta" with "Mandalore".
Also, this song gives interesting implications about Mandalore's past. Since it wasn't the Commandos that came up with this, who did? Who thought to make lyrics centering around killing traitors--one of the greatest sins imaginable in Mandalorian culture? Who betrayed Mandalore to such an incredible degree?
Actually, the song is from the ancient Mandalorians, originally a species known as the Taung, who originated on Coruscant.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 So who betrayed the Taung, and why?
@@ladywaffle2210A volcano, and humans. So they had this thing were they wanted to hunt down all humans, because they make good prey. This went well for them, the Taung not the humans. The Taung only got defeated when the planet got kicked into a volcanic winter. They were then banished off world, and then set up shop on a little planet called Mandalore.
Delta Squad is a prime example of the “Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles” cohesion. Boss is the leader, Fixer has a way with machines, Sev has the most attitude, and Scorch is one of a kind.
But seriously, I loved republic commando, Boss is one of the reasons I go by BossEvasion, the other being Big Boss from MGS. And I always use his color scheme whenever I play a game that has power armor of some sort in it. Especially Halo.
Now i want a MGS style Star Wars game
Walon Vau robbed that bank because his family, which had disowned him, stored most of their valuables there.
This game is older than me, yet it’s still one of my favorites ever
The full delta squad is briefly shown in an episode of TCW, where they had retrieved the bodies of Grievous’ first Jedi kills.
Close, but they were Savage Opress’s kills
Republic commandos are just cool af. Those wrist knives they got was so cool taking down droids with 😅
I wasn't expecting you to make a reference to Abeloth in this. PLEASE do a video about her.
I second this.
Motion? Second? :gavel thump: the motion passes. All in favor?
@@Sephiroth36977Veto, that bit of embarrassing power creep can stay in the obscurity it's in
“Commandos would body arcs, fight me about it”
MY MAN
VODE’AN
Fun (maybe) fact, there’s a Jedi that had a child with a clone commander, (I don’t exactly remember what happened off the top of my head) so if he’s raised right there’s a chance that we can have a force sensitive commando
Didn't we already get a Force Commando game? Wait... no... that was Force *Commander*
I believe the couple you're thinking of is Etain and Darman, but I don't remember exactly
@@ladywaffle2210Yep! Etain Tur-Mukan and RC-1136 Darman met on the planet Qiilura, fell I love as the war progressed, and eventually had a child together.
Still have Republic commando, one of my favorite games of early 2000s.
You should definitely read the books, because the greater lore of Skirata, his deserters and the whole Special Unit is just fascinating for a guy like you
I like Short Clint Eastwood and his Frienemy cleanshaven Lee Van Cleef and their boys, but I always felt things were going a bit off the rails.
Virgin Arc Trooper
Chad Clone Commando
You had me smirking and giggling to myself throughout most of this video.
The nostalgia is real.
The commando in Bad Batch actually was Scorch, the credits directly state his name as such.
They actually use Scorch's lines when the Bad Batch manages to stun him. He also nearly soloed the Bad Batch lol.
Dude was also an absolute tank, he just walked through those stun shots that could take down xenos multiple times the size of a human lol
No, no they did not. That's the normal Dee Bradley Baker voicework. His voiceactor was onlynpaid for use in a game, re using his recorded lines in a TV show would be a contract violation.
Rule #1: Kill them before they kill you.
Rule #17: Always make sure they're dead.
Rule #23: Never pull sentry duty on an empty stomach.
Rule #39: Never say no to bacta.
Rule #48: Any crash you can walk away from is a good one.
Rule #89: One's an anomaly, two's a trend.
A Delta squad show would have been leagues better than the Bad Batch. Fite me
12:50 the fact that I understand this reference makes me proud
I would suggest looking up the dark troopers. The Legends version. It is actually tragic, but basically, the 1st generation were cyborgs, and the components used to make them were clone arc troopers and clone commandoes. Basically, they became mostly droids that fought for the empire with a droid brain.
They had droid brains? That sounds fucking stupid, isn't the whole point of clones and enlisted men is that they aren't dumb battle droids?
I will always be disappointed of the fact there was never a sequel
There was one planned, but LucasArts had gone on crazy pills at that time and cancelled both that, KotOR 3 and the 99% finished Battlefront 3.
@@alexkogan9755battlefront 3 is getting finished someone got a hold of the original build and is finishing granted he is alone in this
The Arc Troopers are very cool soldiers to. You may want to check out Captain Fordo from the Star Wars Clone Wars Volume 1&2 Animated series. His weapons are very potent and his group's combat efficiency is extremely good. Almost Spartan 2 & Astartes level of skill for a guy who doesn't have any body manipulations and augmentations on him.
clones were all augmented biologically to be more durable and hardy, they just didn't have hilariously OP powered armor
Another good one is nicknamed Jangotat, from the book The Cestus Deception. That was a good book.
@@echodelta2172to be fair they make up for that with sheer coolness
If there's one thing I can't stand more than those elves it's those clankers.
Given that the commandos are genetically enhanced, the specialized armor and weapons they hit all the traits for super soldiers to me.
In my opinion their cooler than 40k marines.
Space marines have all of those but better In every category, except lack of shielding on the armor.
Admittedly I do like them more than marines cus of looks and sw over 40k cus not as grimdark but in a straight fight a marine would slaughter a commando.
BRO, IMAGINE THE VODE AN INTRO REMASTERED TO THE SAME VISUAL QUALITY AS HALO 2
I'm so happy to see this game be brought up. It's so damn good.
I love the Republic commando’s in all the different game’s, books, and shows! I still wish Sev could’ve blown Grevious head off tho.
Republic Commando is like my top 3 star wars games, its just so unique compared to most other games that were made within Star Wars. It almost feels like the same tone as like, COD 4 but as a Star Wars game, with that dark grit paired with a little humor in your squadmates. Commandos bred from a Mandalorian and trained like Mandalorians are a force to be reckoned with. I hope the game gets a sequel and I also don't because Disney wouldn't be very faithful.
Sev may not have died in Legends. Leaks about the potential Republic Commando 2 has Sev leading an early rebel cell and actually fighting the rest of Delta squad. I really wish we got that game
Oh it absolutely was Scorch, even had his name in the Credits of the episodes he talked in.
Hey, a video about my favorite Star Wars characters, featuring my favorite Star Wars game!
And dear Lord those Super Battle Droids earned their name in that game.
Not only was the game great, but the books are fantastic as well. Triple Zero is probably my favorite star wars book to date, and it really fleshed out both thw mandalorians and the clones and their part in the war
This was of course before the clone wars show, but honestly, the republic commando books dont break the new canon that often iirc. So in my mind most of the Republic Commando lore is still there
I was not a huge fan of the Etain-Darman stuff.
Great vid man, I’ve been loving your Halo vids + this Star Wars one, would love to see more of both!
Fun fact for the Bad Batch. When that commando appeared on screen, the accompanying behind the scenes page stated he was inspired by Scorch.
Unfortunately someone at Disney didn't like that and in another episode where he appears it is stated he IS Scorch.
I am of the opinion that commando is not Scorch. As Pancreas said, doesn't sound like him, doesn't act like him, so it ain't him.
Scorch doesn't have a unique voice to non-clones, this is stated in the Republic Commando novels. The way we hear the members of Delta Squad talk in the game is only how they hear each other as clones and NOT what they sound like to others outside of the GAR. Also, the way Scorch is acting in Bad Batch is pretty on point with how he was in Legends post order 66. After losing Sev on Kashyyyk, Scorch lost most of his sense of humor and became rather bitter.
Been trying to find out what Voda an was from for months now, and am very glad to finally figure out where I heard it from. Thanks for the great video as usual.
If you think _any_ numerically equal group in Star Wars except _maybe_ Jedi and Sith could beat- much less body- ARC troopers you’re deranged.
And yes, I’m including Mandalorians in that.
It’s extremely eugenics-y, but Jango was basically the _perfect_ human specimen and held all his clones to a high standard, much less the ARC troopers personally trained by himself & Kal Skirata.
The 100 Alpha ARCs that were trained by Jango Fett and the six Null ARCs that were trained by Kal Skirata, yes, but the numerous cross-trained ARCs that started out as regular infantry troopers, no.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102
Well yes.
ARCs like Jesse, Fives, and Echo would get bodied by Commandos in squads. Maybe someone like Cody or Rex (technically ARC commanders) could take on an individual RC but most are losing that fight too.
Alpha’s and Nulls win against basically any single opponent who isn’t also an alpha, null, Jedi _master_, or Galaxy renown bounty Hunter (Durge canonically was too much for Fordo to handle for example, Cad Bane might be able to handle 1v1’s if Hunter & Boba Fett are anything to go off of).
@JustinHelms Rex and Cody, along with many other commanders like Bly, Gree, Neyo etc., are in a weird spot with being called ARCs. They were all trained in Alpha-17's ARC Training Program for extra leadership skills and more independent thought, but they aren't Advanced Recon Commandos as they don't do ARC missions.
ahh. Republic commandos. A game where the genocians have laser beams, super battle droids will call you a meat bag before stomping you into the ground, and where Wookiees were canonically twice your height and three times your width.
Since many super soldiers ate based on the impression of Navy SEALs, do the clones also take courses in book writing? Movie script negotiations, coffee or tactical gear company start up?
Jokes aside, I've always liked the clone troopers for succeeding despite facing opponents that generally have enough plot armor to rival the Millennium Falcon with 5 protagonists on board. That takes good, unbiased writing.
in my limited experience with star wars, the difference between legends and canon is always "legends is where the cool stuff happens"
Oh I’m sorry, The Yuzong what? Chewie had to be killed by dropping a moon on him?! Palpatine cloning himself via sith magic?!?! More please, right into my veins.
Depends on what type or ARC trooper you're referring to.
Null and Alpha class ARCs would definitely body any clone commando because they are all practically Carbon copies of Jango Fett instead of clone soldiers.
But the later Beta class ARC troopers are just regular clones with special training. So a clone commando would definitely be able to take all but the best (Rex or Fives) on in a 1v1
Dang just straight up calling them beta class 😂 that anit even offical but highly accurate they anit got squat on the REAL ARC Troopers!
@@ulty1472A more accurate term would be cross-trained ARCs
Speaking of the OST, Rage of the Shadow Warriors is the greatest hype song I've ever heard in a video game. I will die on this hill, didgeridoo and war bongos in hand.
Commandos are underrated.
More overated
@@myduckisonqauck7227 around 2010 you would have been correct, today there are not many who remember them
Fantastic background music choice for the nostalgia video
That whole part about 5000 commandos dying because of Jedi tactics on Geonosis was due to Karen Traviss making crap up to make the Jedi look bad. In the actual Republic Commando game, the Jedi on Geonosis sent the commandos on raiding and assassination missions; destroy a factory here, kill some important moron there, blow up a starship, mission over. The Jedi only suck at tactics in Karen Traviss' books because her hatred of the Jedi is only matched by Garth Ennis' hatred of superheroes. So she wrote them as morons because she hates them, whereas every other piece of Legends content regarding the matter portrayed the Jedi as either mid-level generals or sometimes, some of the best.
her biases (and barely concealed fetish for the clones) definitely tainted all of the sequels. The first book is still amazing.
@@echodelta2172 I never considered her stuff canon. She keeps trying to slap fight with other EU authors like Curtis Saxton and Timothy Zahn.
In the Republic Commando game, we LITERALLY only know that Delta Squad and Theta Squad were sent on spec ops missions, which is consistent with the Karen Traviss novels where Delta, Theta, and many other squads are sent to the factories and catacombs, where many RCs are killed. The Jedi using a number of the RCs as regular infantry on Geonosis, and getting many of them killed in the process, is consistent with a lot of the Clone Wars Multimedia Project stories of the time where the Jedi weren't often very good military commanders and got many of their men killed in their blind charges against enemy lines and other foolish tactics.
@@CloneCommanderCrater1102 False. Much of the Clone Wars Multimedia project depicts Jedi as decent generals, most of whom are conservative with the lives of their men. Anakin's the one who goes on banzai charges against the enemy, and guess what, HIS MEN LOVE HIM! The rest of the Jedi adapt a more defensive stance in battle, preferring to get the most of their men alive out of combat rather than destroying the enemy, hence why seasoned officers like Admiral Tarkin who prefer the total annihilation of the enemy dislike the Jedi for being too squeamish about casualties.
Also, the Republic Commando game makes no mention of massive casualties among the Commandos. They don't talk about how Windu led half the Commandos to die; all they did was operator stuff, the kind of stuff they were trained for, the kind of stuff the Jedi sent them on. So no, Karen Traviss is not consistent with the rest of the lore for the Clone Wars Legends continuity. There's a reason why the clones admired their Jedi generals and were mostly regretful over Order 66.
"They're good. No words needed. Perfect sync. Like clones in a way. Better. They're the best. That's why they command."
―Republic clone trooper commander "Bly", Star Wars Republic Issue 68
"It's been said that the 501st got the best of the war. We also got the worst. On Felucia, the Seps dug their metal heels into the muck of that alien hellhole and dared the Republic to come in after them. So we did, only to be met with month after month of flesh-eating diseases, shrieking nocturnal predators, and other sights that haunt me to this day. Cut off and for all we knew abandoned by our superiors, our only hope was Aayla Secura, our Jedi commander. Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much.
When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye." -501st Clone Trooper on Aayla Secura's command of the clones on Felucia, Star Wars Battlefront 2 classic.
So yes, massive Clone Commando casualties on Geonosis was Karen Traviss bullshitting off her ass. None of the other Clone Wars media mention it, the movie just shows the clones winning under Jedi leadership, and the Clone Commando game shows that the Jedi DID deploy the Clone Commandos properly, sending them on operator stuff while the Jedi and the regular clones faced the enemy head-on.
On discord currently and need to save it for later, but I cannot wait to fully watch this. Wish they made a sequel to this.
I can't recommend the Republic Commando book series highly enough; they're easily some of the best EU material ever produced. Karen Traviss gave us a view of the Clone Wars which was far more logically-consistent, nuanced, and believable than anything Lucas or the Mouse ever could, and it's a crime that it ended with Imperial Commando. Her take on Order 66 was nothing short of inspired. You got such stuff as Sep dirty bombs, ARC Troopers given to Jedi commanders as triggermen, counter-Republic financial warfare... it was great
the Mortal Dictata author? sold
Its unbelievably bizarre to watch people unironically praising the Travissisty books as some minor masterpieces or such. Its borderline surreal considering what's actually written therein.
@@papapalps2415 Eh they aren't perfect and lampoon the Jedi to an absurd degree, but her version of the Clone Wars makes a lot more sense than other media
@@sgtpepper0spray It really, really, really doesn't. And infact, I actually struggle to think of a 'version' of the CW that makes less sense. Although, in that light, what, exactly, do you think she presents the CW as being?
@@pandoragoldspan7012 If you like the Kilo Five books than you'll love Republic Commando.
hoenstyl, one thing I really like about the sponsor segments is that pancreas uses the segment function to allow us to skip it easier.
The sponsor is so random 😂
My headcanon is that the clone commandos got turned into dark troopers
Do you prefer the Katarn armor with a true energy shield, or do you like the book's approach where it's just the armor's ability to absorb and release heat and other damage?
Ideally I'd go with the KOTOR route of energy shields being very commonplace, but if not then I'd say the latter explanation fits in more with the movies
@@nagger8216 I always figured that the personal shields we see in Kotor eventually just got outpaced by blasters and were discarded after they couldn't be made powerful enough to catch up without compromising their portability.
@@screamingcactus1753in game the explanation is that, A, galaxy is at war and all of the good guns are being sent to the front lines and, B, due to said war the arms race of better armor and arms was in full swing and blasters hadn’t caught up yet.
"The wrath of Coruscant" jesus christ that goes so damn hard
Was it red green red? Or green red green?
When the clone commandos finally get a unit in Legion, I swear I’m buying every box within a 50 mile radius.
I do love me some republic commandos, and I do love me some pancreas video!
Sadly, they also always come with Karen Traviss's godawful braindead jedi takes, and I am sad to see those make their way into this video, even in small doses.
Still, great video overall.
Certified PancreasNoWork upload
I refuse to believe that the bad batch commandos are actual commandos. They are clearly just regular clones with commando armour
People can shit on Karen Traviss all they want, I love the story of Omega and the extra lore about Delta as well as the darker way she portrayed Jedi/Republic's corruption.
Shit was dope, great addition to the games
I absolutely love the RC novels!
Dude you’re making me want to play this game again so bad. THE SOUNDTRACK!!!!!!
9:40 Hive mind, you aren’t killing anyone, just destroying non thinking machinery
11:20 The reason they were robbing the bank is because they along with a ton of other clones were planning to desert unmasse and knew they were going to need a lot of money to start their new lives.
Clone Commandos are getting models for Star Wars Legion!
Fun fact, it was planned that Sev survived and founded the rebellion with General Tarful, that was going to be the sequel
"Bad batch" does a good job displaying how that "brain chip" altered the clones behaviour, as it made them less emotional, more robotic and generally more akin to well, clankers, "heck", they became less emotional than the B1 battle droids.. ..The clankers often saying things like "halt, Jedi!", "Roger-Roger!" and so forth.
8:30 An interesting historical precedent for this kind of behavior from (the equivalent of) the officer class is stories from WW2 Allied Paratroopers and Ranger elements. Uninformed officers would take a scout platoon and tell them to hold ground like any other Infantry Division. Often they did it pretty well anyway because they get down like that, but it's a learning curve they didn't ask for and had to achieve it with the wrong equipment.
“A elegant weapon for a more civilised age, well guess what! Times have changed!”
Thank you for giving the Republic Commandos and their game the attention and love they deserve.