Quick And Easy Stain For Pine That Gives Great Results - Finishing 002
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Pine doesn't always have to be the ugly secondary wood used in woodworking projects. With the right finish, it looks awesome! I like the old school honey pine look, and in this video, I show you my recipe for that finish and how to apply it.
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General finishes no longer carries this stain color as of October 2024.
Chip Brush amzn.to/1NRScpk (Cheaper to buy these in bulk)
General Finishes Arm-R-Seal Semi Gloss Varnish amzn.to/1o9ePka
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Thanks so much for sharing ! No nonsense, straight to the point instructions. Other youtuber's need to take notes from you. I love it ! Great video !
Short, straightforward and solid advice. Exactly what I needed
Finally a pine finish that looks amazing and is easy to apply. Nice work on the video! Subscribed
For those that have asked about this discontinued stain; their 'New Pine' stain isn't even close to this, it's basically a clear coat. I then tried 'American Oak' and it is a dead on match for the finish achieved in this demonstration, a nice golden color when used on pine.
Bro thank you! Exactly what I needed to know.
I tried the American Oak but did not get the golden color like the Golden pine in the video. To me was just a light brown color instead of golden. Did you add any pretreatment
I love General Finishes, unfortunately they discontinued this stain in my search and through trying multiple products and chemistry experiments I discovered this and it sounds weird but it works= Cabot Gold Sun Drenched Oak it's an exterior sealer and stain combined . 2 coats each applied with a brush then wiped off after sitting about 1 minute gives nearly the identical hue and color with no sheen and will still take gel stains on top for highlights or blending and will still accept topcoats. I have tried everything and multiple mixing combinations this is as close as it gets. It also makes for a nice amber base when duplicating new wood to reclaimed heart pine floors in fact I used it mixed with 2 other cabot colors layered to replicate what looks like authentic old growth heart pine flooring with minimal effort. No blotching or mottling and it accents and highlights the grain. Looks straight yellow out of the can but don't be afraid. Anything more then 2 light coats and you lose the grain and seal the wood.
Thank you. Do you have a pic of the Gold Sun on pine? I bought all new pine doors and am looking for a rich gold tone to pop with some light gray walls.
@@andreww1613 unfortunately I do not the floors I am currently doing are still in process I will post one as soon as they are finished, however it maybe awhile its a weekend project. They sell sample pints of the stain I would say try some on a scrap piece of pine to be sure it suits your needs
Great to the point video and nice looking finish.
Thanks
Thank you for this video! You saved me a lot of angst trying to find the right stain for these pine interior doors we bought.
Hi from the UK! Have you ever stained pine to make it look like Douglas fir? If so, what stain would you use? I have read that honey maple is a good match. Thanks
Did you ever find a stain you like for this? I need to match a douglas fir finish too!
I used Minwax stain on Mahogany piano with several layers of diluted Shellac with denatured alcohol on top. Takes longer time to apply but results are like French polish and great to look at.
Thanks for sharing this, very helpful, I will try this on my next project .
looks like they stopped making this stain, do you have a substitute ? this is exactly the look i was looking for... lol
Good tip! I have used gel satin with success on maple and cherry also. Since it sits on top of the wood and doesn't really penetrate, it's a great choice for pine.
Thanks for watching, Guy! Yeah I actually got my favorite cherry stain from one of your videos :).
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We just bought unfinished pine stair treads to replace our stairs at home, would this procedure work and will it stand to the everyday wear and tear?
I have found that allowing the stain to dry for about 15 minutes and then wiping off the excess results in a deep,rich looking finish. I use a single coat of Varathane stain. Sometimes I just let the stain completely dry overnight and don’t even remove any excess letting it all dry
Would you recommend putting a pre stain conditioner on first?
Wondering this too.
great video. i was looking for this!
Is it necessary to use this stain on pine? Does others turn out good as well?
I finished a swamp ash bass guitar with GF Golden Pine Gel Stain and Minwax Wipe-on Poly (gloss). Turned out great, and I was happy with just one coat of the stain. Good product, and easy to use.
Can one apply that gel stain on pine without a sealer coat?
Thank you hanging a pine wall right now this was very helpful
I had some kitchen cabinets made out of pine tongue and groove and the shelves are just 3/4" plywood which was sanded. I don't want to stain any of the wood. I prefer the natural look of the wood. But, I would like to know what to seal my shelves with so that I can wipe them off. Especially if liquid of any kind spills on them. Theses shelves will be holding my plates, glasses, pots and pans, and some food items. Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be appreciated.
did they discontinue golden pine? I can't fine it anywhere? it's all just listing as "new pine"
What does the Pine-gel smell like? And what does the ARm-R-Seal smell like? Strong odor? How long does odor last? I'm in an enclosed space, not the best ventilation. I only use BLO and shellac. Thanks.
thanks for the tip sean.ive never used the gel stain b4.ill have to try it out next time i build with pine
+Joe basementwoodworking Give it a try, you will like it! Thanks for watching, Joe!
+SimpleCove i definitely will. I have to go back to rockler this weekend for more oak to finish the curio cabinet I will pick some up then and lyk how it turns out..is it a good look on JUST pine or you think any other woods..
+Joe basementwoodworking I've used Georgian Cherry color on cherry which looks good and actually stained walnut with the walnut color gel stain and loved it. +GuysWoodshop mentioned in another comment on this video that he's used it on maple and cherry as well.
@@Simplecove I know this is an old video, but I wondered if the New Pine stain (that your link takes one to) could be a replacement for the stain you used in this video. Do you perhaps know that? Thanks.
Did you condition the line prior to staining? Or is that only required for non-gel stains.
I showed every step I did in the video. No conditioner
what would you use if you want to keep and protect the color such as in beetle kill. I recently put up some walls, and want to do a matching banister.
That left a nice even finish. Good tip
How do you keep it from blotching? I've almost given up on putting any stain on pp one or any of the White woods :(
I Can't find golden pine anymore, any other suggestions to get that same finish?
I'm having the same problem. I have looked for a stain exactly this color and can't find one anywhere. Dark stains are what the youtubers are doing now, and I seriously hate them.
latengocomoburro I've found that Colron Antique Pine from B&Q to be the best match.
@@r-786_ Thank you.
Where does one buy this? This is what I'm looking for in color for either stain or base stain. Big box stores and wally world all have the same thing.
You made me hate pine a bit less! thanks! haha
I don't use pine often but when I do I want it to look good! Thanks for watching!
man why is pine such a bad wood . what do u make chairs and tables out of though_.. and why does thin ply pine stain better then real pine wood
Sweden?
@Slomofogo exactly, there is nothing wrong with pine. only idiots think that
Really helpful video. Many thanks!
The end grain facing the camera absorbed a lot more stain. I have some wood-carving in the face of mine... Afraid it's going to be all dark inside that, and light on the flat face. Planning a gel stain (tests with liquid stain didn't color pine at all; gel does). Guess a wood conditioner is necessary -- do you ever use one and what type?
I love this color but unfortunately Golden Pine has been discontinued.. Are there any other stains that can produce a similar gold looking color as this?? I am having trouble finding a stain that can produce this color.
Hi is a pre conditioner needed before staining,? I'm new at this..
Not necessarily. I didn't use any before Applying this gel stain because it's thicker and doesn't absorb as deeply as a stain.
This is the best pine paint I have seen...does shellac and later stain give better colour to New zealand Radiata ?
One question, since this sits on the top and not penetrate. We don't need to use pre stain wood conditioner?
You pretty much answered why you don't need a pre stain conditioner. It doesn't absorb as deeply which means less blotching.
hi im new in wood im learning so im building this lampost for extior garden and im using pine can i use that color to be outside ....What color is it thank you....
Golden pine is discontinued. I’m looking for that same finish. Any substitute? Thanks
Contact general finishes for that recommendation
Great video. Would this be a great option for something that would be used outdoors?? For example, a wooden wagon. Thank you.
You could use the stain for outdoor projects but I would choose a better top coat for protection than the varnish if the wooden wagon is going to stay outdoors and see the elements. Maybe look at a spar urethane to go over top of the stain.
Thank you so much!
Nice vid,How long do you wait between coats of stain and gloss
Probably at least 8 hours.
your intro is the bomb!
It looks like they discontinued this stain. Any ideas for an alternative?
awesome video!
question: other than sanding, no prep before applying gel stain right? no pre-stain conditioner or anything like that?
second question: could you use polyurethane after the second coat?
thanks for sharing. i'm pretty sure this was the best pine staining video i've found so far
What I showed in the video is the exact steps I took to produce this finish. I try to show everything in the video to help people. Absolutely, you can apply polyurethane after the gel stain. Just make sure the stain has dried (24 hours should be good depending on the temperature.). Thanks for watching!
+Sean from SimpleCove thanks! appreciate the quick response
No prefinish necessary?
Is that just the stain or a stain and seal combo? The latter I don't want.
Did you use American oak gel stain that is what shows up when you click the link
i have had great success with ZAR ULTRA MAX Oil Modified wood stain on pine. staying with the lighter color stains of course.
Cool,I will check it out!
Where can I buy golden pine
Hi...thank you for your valuable information. I was trying to stain my door flush.I matched with the min wax stain sample . but when I applied it changed the color. I used wood finish natural.Could you please help me what do now ?.....My door flush has become little reddish........I need same color as mentioned on Natural color sample.(My other door has a little golden/ yellow shades). Do I need to remove stain?....please help me what to do.if you want me to send the sample I can do that.....appreciated.
Sorry, i'm not familiar with those stains and won't be able to help.
The color used in this example is exactly what I'm looking for. But I couldn't read the label on your can. The amazon link is for "nutmeg". Just wanted to confirm that before buying it.
No, they discontinued the stain and updated their Amazon listing to something different. I'm removing that link from my description
You flashed the name of the product on the screen at a distance. What is it that you used?
Check the video description.
How do you avoid the blotchyness inherent to pine? I have to use a pre-stain to help with that, but then my stain isn't as dark.
Gel stains don't penetrate as deep as traditional oil based stains so it doesn't blotch as much. It mainly just colors the surface. It does take a few coats of gel stains to darken the piece though as each coat makes it darker and darker.
Ive seen people talking about using boiling water to open up the wood first, it makes some sense. Havent tried it myself.
Waoo exellent explanation!!! Can please tell me the name of the staining paint and Varnish that you used please
Ja Ro it's in the description.
Thank you, ill do this with a pine wood queen size frame!!
Exellent!
Hey great video! I made a table from common pine 2 by 6's which I would like to finish. I have a few open knots, one which actually is a bit loose. Any suggestions to deal with these large open knots before or after I apply a finish? Thanks
For stabilizing knots I typically put some epoxy in the knot hole. You can also tint the epoxy with dye to keep it consistent with the rest of the boards color. Using a test piece, on one side, put some masking tape over the knot completely (to act as a wall to prevent epoxy from seeping through and out the other side of the board), flip the board over and put epoxy in the knot hole. Wait for it to dry and sand away any excess.
Where did you buy the triangle spacer pyramids from?
They're really cheap on Amazon.... (where else)
How do I get a totally clear (non-yellowing) finish on select pine?
I would apply a water base polyurethane like minwax polycrylic
I like to pre condition pine first, then use water base stains. Pine likes to get blotchy in some areas so the conditioning eliminates it...
Yep, I totally agree! Thanks for sharing
Typically I won't if I'm using a gel stain but always test it on a sample board to see how it's going to look.
What's the ACTUAL name of the gel? (Not the brand)
You should consider looking in video descriptions.
@@Simplecove I love your videos, by the way! I should have said that first!
Do you sand between coats of varnish?
Depending on how rough the surface is, I typically sand with 320 grit between coats. If it's really rough I will step back to 220, and if it's not too bad, I will use 400 grit.
I've also seen a technique used by Louis Sauzedde (Tips from a Shipwright channel) who used a foam roller then tipped with a brush
Yeah his videos are amazing. I used a foam roller here recently on a bunch of shelves. Worked great.
Does it need a second coat?
Hmmmm I'm on my 3 coats of boiled linseed and one of Danish oil and I'm not so impressed yet I might finish with a urethane and oil finish but I might teak oil next time :S ... thanks for your video as well...
Pledge wood restore and Minwax oil based polyurethane. Gorgeous on pine. Spray on oce, wipe in. and apply the poly.
Beautiful color. I cringe every time I see a video with something built from pine where the builder just slaps on a dark stain and calls it done. Ends up hideous.
So true. I hate the dark walnut look. Pine and other soft woods look so much better in the lighter shades.
@@shadypines9929 really? I think dark walnut with poly looks good
did you use any conditioner?
+brian manzo No, I only used the gel stain followed by the top coat.
Sean, do you always have consistent results with only using gel stain?
guess you don't have to use a wood conditioner . on gel stains? , any other stain it will blotch.
Hi, nice video. just a question, do you sand between caots ?
Hi kachboubou83 yes it's called 'de nibbing'. Hope this helps.
Very nice but you call it a Golden Pine Gel stain in description, but they don't have that as a choice? Did you mean golden oak?
Nope. It was called that but they no longer sell it.
@@Simplecove Any recommendations for that golden pine look?
Great video, but I don't see any difference between one coat or two coat. ??? You said "the reason for this is just to get the finish on the surface" Did you mean the first layer get absorbed some and the second coat is more of an outer layer?
+Brad Cheng the more coats you add the darker it gets. Two coats makes a difference but you may not be able to see it on camera.
Why my pine looks more like brown then yellowish?
Man everybody makes finishing pine sound like brain surgery. Thanks for this
This is amazing, subscripted.
I get that it's easy, but the reversed grain looks awful to me. There are staining methods that preserve the correct, natural, grain pattern.
I guess I don't follow. What do you mean reverse grain as far as this example is concerned?
@@Simplecove In the figuring of the natural pine, the narrow streaks of late-wood are dark, and the broad splashes of early-wood are light. After staining, this is reversed. Most, maybe all, instant stains do this. Old pine, usually just oiled or waxed, ages to the colour this stain is immitating without grain reversal. Once you start to look, this difference is not so subtle. To me it's like the difference between old photos and their film negatives; unnatural, less attractive. How much this matters will depend on the woodworker, the client, their motivations. This stain appears to do what it does very well, and your explanation is excellent! I'm enjoying looking through your channel very much.
Now what - I tried to order the stain and was told the color was discontinued.
Sorry, can't help on that unfortunately
Sean, "Golden Pine" color is discontinued. Now they have "New Pine" color. Let us know if you try it and how it compares. (The color in the sales photo looks almost identical). Thanks.
Will do, Thanks for letting me know!
is it my iPhone, or is this pretty orange?
This stain has been discontinued. 😢
You should never pass a blade with your hand, you should always use a push stick!!
ah yes! well observed.
According to the find a store thingy, nearest store that carries this is like TWO HOURS from me. Sorry, thanks but no thanks.