Great job. Mustie1 just did one with the Onan. He added a snow plow and worked out the electrical bugs. I had a 20 hp 46" cut version of this engine on a MTD Huskee mower. Loved that thing.
I used a Briggs twin on my 345 swap. Water cooled lawn tractor is ridiculous.... it did run great for over 20 years....nice job that 318 will last another 20 years
Had to replace fuel line on my tractor. I found brake line to be a very good upgrade from the rubber. A few simple bends and supported correctly, it actually looks factory.
This is good work Bob. How much clearance do you have for unscrewing the oil filter? Looks tight. I have my kit on the way and do not like the fact that sew removes the oil cooler and installs a cheesy chunk of aluminum to adapt perpendicular angle to fit. I ordered the original kit and want to make it work
@BobWilson84 thanks for the reply. I watched your build series a couple times. I appreciate it. Did you have to make any adjustments east to west to accommodate the filter or was it centered both ways and just worked?
FYI, one thing I noticed is your rear radiator bracket is in the way of removing the “Rock Shaft”.. that would be needed if you wanted to add a 3 point hitch
Awesome!! Can you please send me information on radiator and fan , and does the motor pump the oil that far with know problems? And gas line type you used please
I’m years late but I’m curious what you use the tractor for as you said in the video you were not using a mower deck and I note your fan or mount for it makes the 3-point impossible. I’d seriously consider this for my 420 but I would need a different radiator/fan solution as I couldn’t imagine not having a 3-point on these machines. I like the smoothness of the vanguard but darn I love the Onan sound enough that the sound alone may keep me using Onan engines.
It was built just to tow stuff around with the simple hit hitch, or blow snow. The guy who bought it mows with it and has a snow blower. The 3 pt attachments for these tractors are sorta too clumsy for my liking. What 3 point attachment do you use on the 420?
@@BobWilson84 my 420 is a restoration project but the 3-point lives on my 316 Onan for now. I have a 3-point receiver adapter that also holds 6 suitecase weights. It gets used to move trailers or with a modest hitch/plate setup as a tow tractor to more other machines. I’ve also got a 3-point yo sleeve hitch conversion and it covers my sleeve hitch plow, disc, harrow, etc. lastly I have a set of 3-point pallet forks as the rear 3-point can lift about 800 pounds making it quite handy. I have a mower deck for that 316 but I use the 3-point do much that I mow with an older 214 just to keep the 316 as a dedicated work mule.
Some charging systems are not strong enough to run anything but the electric pto (blades) and headlights without running the battery down after some time. If you ever go with a deck, you could experience this since you also have an electric cooling fan. If the fan is more than one speed, you could run it at a lower speed. And, LED bulbs on the headlights would draw much less current, as well. I suppose you could run it around for awhile with the PTO engaged to see if it's going to be an issue. Moving air around the transaxle from your cooling fan is a nice side benefit to have. You've done a nice job.
Hey Rob, great point about the amperage draw. Thankfully the alternator (stator) on the Briggs can put out around 20 amps continuous. I actually installed a deck and ran it for about 1 hour with no voltage drop on the battery so it seems like the fan + pto + headlight combo isn't too much. Thanks!
Hi, I done this swap about 9 years ago with the 18hp kit, was a direct bolt up. So the 23hp engine does not come with everything needed. Makes you work for the extra power.
Hi Bob, I love your 318. I've just upgraded mine to the same engine as yours. I'm having a bit of problems with throttle and choke cables, did you use the original ones or are they new, if so where did you get from? THX!
Hi Henry. I used generic cables. The throttle and choke can both be mounted in 2 orientations. If you study the linkage, make sure the high throttle position of the cable means you are pulling the gov. spring tighter. The choke is “on” when the lever is back towards the rear of the tractor. Hope that helps.
Hey Rodger, how is the fuel being heated? The lines are running in the same configuration as a normal 300-series tractor. So far about 100 hours on it by the new owner who loves it with no problems.
Hi Kyle, the 3rd video I made of this tractor shows the keyed shaft, It bolts onto the flywheel with two bolts, not too complicated. The part is available anywhere that sells engine. It's typically referred to as a "stub shaft" Let me know if you need any help!.
1 Is the exhaust S/S or aluminized steel? 2 Consider a "grease shield" on the U-Joint. Or less zealous greasing... 3 What is that tiny red lever near the 2 large levers? Would worry about possible heating of the gas tank/boiling? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QFN3DU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Looks good!
Why would the gas tank have been built with the lines entering below the normal fuel level? It looks there was all kind of space further back. They could even have tapped in the sides right?
I don't know what Deere was thinking... It's a ugly design in my opinion. I guess with the new bushings and gasket maker it should last another 10-15 years. Ethanol in the new fuel probably makes things worse too. Thankfully there's a gas station with ethanol-free nearby. Have a good one - excellent username sir.
My guess is having the fuel lines coming out the bottom of the tank would interfere with a rear PTO shaft if you had one on the tractor. It would be risky trying to route both fuel lines away from the rear PTO shaft.
If you're talking about the difference in height between the engine and transmission input shaft, that's normal. These driveshafts are designed to operate at a slight angle. The crankshaft end of the driveshaft on a stock Onan-powered 318 also sits up a little bit higher.
MichaelTJD60 If you remove the driveshaft from the machine, the two ends (the yokes) should be aligned with each other, not rotated at different angles from one another. ua-cam.com/video/uRkYhI1afHk/v-deo.html
I commend you on the paint job and the everything you done EXCEPT THE BRIGGS ENGINE they are cheaply made I am a master certified mechanic on Briggs, Onan, Kohler, Kawasaki, and Honda, Tulsa Engine warehouse has the swap kits and I would have put the 24 hp HONDA engine myself they are the best engines and your Great grand kids could use the same engine!!
Yep, Honda’s a better engine. It was also another $1000 to spend on a tractor that is worth $3,000 (or less) it comes down to dollars and cents. Is there something specific to the Briggs that makes it a lesser engine? The new owner of this tractor uses it for fun, and it would probably take 20 years to get to 1,000 hours. The likelihood of ever wearing out the Briggs is pretty slim. Please, let me know what to look for in the Vangards... in your experience what is the weak link? Overall build quality? A specific component?
You need to get someone (who has & can use Autocad) to develop Autocad Engineering Drawings for the custom metal fab parts you had to fabricate to facilitate this repower project...
I'll first say that this is one of the best rebuilds I've seen. You have a major fault in your PTO set up, without a key for the out put shaft, it will slip and destroy your crank.
Thanks for the compliment Daniel. Maybe I didn’t explain it well enough.... there is indeed a 1/4 square key that clocks the crank and the PTO. Without that - you are 100% correct sir.
Instead of drilling a hole in the fill cap for hydro fluid why not just fix the vent so it works properly? And me personally would have went with the japan made Honda engine.. but thats just my preference over Briggs... but in my JD ill stick with my 18HP magnum Kohler..horizontal twins are torque monsters..and sound like a diesel..
From what I can tell the filler hose actually is the vent (or should be) Anyways, the Honda is awesome too, but I found a screaming deal on the Briggs Vanguard. I like the magnum Kohler engines too. Have a good one.
I just got a 420 with a Honda 24hp gx670. 8m having issues with the governor carburetor linkage in the front. Any suggestions is helpful since I cant locate any books on the settings. I'd sure l ou ve to get mine like yours but I'm using for winter plowing. I can't locate the front mount to the frame for a 420 or complete unit cheap enough. Message me at face if possible
Hey Robert. The throttle linkage should be straight forward on the GX670. As a rule of thumb: increase throttle on the lever should increase tension on the governor spring. The front mount for snow plows comes up on eBay every so often, just keep your eyes peeled. Also, check out mytractorforum for lots of good info and tons of folks willing to help.
Robert Duncan. I’m happy to help, but this may not be the most efficient method of solving your problem. I suggest creating an account on MyTractorForum and asking there. Unfortunately you will not be able to upload photos of your project here.
@@BobWilson84 thanks for the assistance but I've figured it out. Sometimes it's easy to figure things out like many projects I've done on other things in the past. Keep up the great films
Hi, they are imported 26x12x12 on the factory narrow wheels. The fact that they are imported means they are actually closer to 24x12x12 real dimensions. Hope that helps.
That engine is too beautiful to cover up with a hood. You do awesome work!
Nice work. My 316 may need something like this in the future.
Great job! As good as I've seen so far. I'm currently do a 317 repower and you've given me some great ideas and info. Thanks for posting.
The auxiliary fan is great! I love when people wire to the 12v system in lawn tractors!
Great project for a hobby, this looks like show room machine.
I've had couple 318, And I have wished many a time, I had kept them and done what you did here to yours. MY hats off to you! Great Job!
That's perfect, if I could do half as good a job as this with my wheel horse repower I'd be happy. Really excellent work
Congrats awesome machine
Great job. Mustie1 just did one with the Onan. He added a snow plow and worked out the electrical bugs. I had a 20 hp 46" cut version of this engine on a MTD Huskee mower. Loved that thing.
Man, that thing is gorgeous.
I used a Briggs twin on my 345 swap. Water cooled lawn tractor is ridiculous.... it did run great for over 20 years....nice job that 318 will last another 20 years
Are you an alien? because you have some out of this world skills
Amazing Job! Very clean build!
This is the first video of yours that I've seen. Your attention to detail is impressive. I'm gonna go ahead and SMASH that like button and subscribe!
That’s all I ask!!! Thanks !
Thanks for the update. I wish I would have made my own shaft with TSC part for mine, instead I bought a custom ebay one with greasable joints.
Nice job! Very professional
THE BEST 318 engine swap for sure.
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Yea it definitely sounds really good that's forsure...
Well done repower...! (But put a full size Group 26 Automotive battery in that 318...!)
Great job! The best I've seen!
You did an amazing job!
Had to replace fuel line on my tractor. I found brake line to be a very good upgrade from the rubber. A few simple bends and supported correctly, it actually looks factory.
I’m buying a 318 for $300 can’t wait to pick it up and yes it runs
This is good work Bob. How much clearance do you have for unscrewing the oil filter? Looks tight. I have my kit on the way and do not like the fact that sew removes the oil cooler and installs a cheesy chunk of aluminum to adapt perpendicular angle to fit. I ordered the original kit and want to make it work
I had plenty of room for the filter. If the engine was lower it would probably be questionable.
@BobWilson84 thanks for the reply. I watched your build series a couple times. I appreciate it. Did you have to make any adjustments east to west to accommodate the filter or was it centered both ways and just worked?
Great build atleast some saving tractors from scrappers
Beautiful job.
FYI, one thing I noticed is your rear radiator bracket is in the way of removing the “Rock Shaft”.. that would be needed if you wanted to add a 3 point hitch
Yep, you are very correct!
Man you are in other level
Great work
I'v always thought they needed a trans fluid temperature gauge... And yeah, 23" Rear Tires & Wheels for the 318 and 26" for the 420 & 430's...
What year is that 318? It looks like it’s in brand spanking new condition.
Awesome!! Can you please send me information on radiator and fan , and does the motor pump the oil that far with know problems? And gas line type you used please
Gas line was 3/16 tigon tubing. I’m sorry, but I don’t have the radiator information available anymore.
Very nice work.
Just a fantastic job.
Valves kinda noisey ?? And it looks great !!! Nice job
wow 1st class job
I’m years late but I’m curious what you use the tractor for as you said in the video you were not using a mower deck and I note your fan or mount for it makes the 3-point impossible.
I’d seriously consider this for my 420 but I would need a different radiator/fan solution as I couldn’t imagine not having a 3-point on these machines.
I like the smoothness of the vanguard but darn I love the Onan sound enough that the sound alone may keep me using Onan engines.
It was built just to tow stuff around with the simple hit hitch, or blow snow. The guy who bought it mows with it and has a snow blower. The 3 pt attachments for these tractors are sorta too clumsy for my liking. What 3 point attachment do you use on the 420?
@@BobWilson84 my 420 is a restoration project but the 3-point lives on my 316 Onan for now. I have a 3-point receiver adapter that also holds 6 suitecase weights. It gets used to move trailers or with a modest hitch/plate setup as a tow tractor to more other machines. I’ve also got a 3-point yo sleeve hitch conversion and it covers my sleeve hitch plow, disc, harrow, etc. lastly I have a set of 3-point pallet forks as the rear 3-point can lift about 800 pounds making it quite handy.
I have a mower deck for that 316 but I use the 3-point do much that I mow with an older 214 just to keep the 316 as a dedicated work mule.
Looks great so far. Very cool.
Looks really good!
Very cool! Nice job!
very neat build, thumbs up!
That looks very clean an almost factory
Although the heads overlap where the hood would be, other than that I agree 100%!
Well done,,Looks like a stump puller.
Some charging systems are not strong enough to run anything but the electric pto (blades) and headlights without running the battery down after some time. If you ever go with a deck, you could experience this since you also have an electric cooling fan. If the fan is more than one speed, you could run it at a lower speed. And, LED bulbs on the headlights would draw much less current, as well. I suppose you could run it around for awhile with the PTO engaged to see if it's going to be an issue.
Moving air around the transaxle from your cooling fan is a nice side benefit to have.
You've done a nice job.
Hey Rob, great point about the amperage draw. Thankfully the alternator (stator) on the Briggs can put out around 20 amps continuous. I actually installed a deck and ran it for about 1 hour with no voltage drop on the battery so it seems like the fan + pto + headlight combo isn't too much. Thanks!
Looks Great!
Always remember, the more complicated you make the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain.
You know a lot about plumbing, especially considering that you are in fact, Bigfoot.
Just want to say hello to everyone watching this video. If you have any ideas for new tractor videos let me know!
those back tires look so darn good!
Hi, I done this swap about 9 years ago with the 18hp kit, was a direct bolt up. So the 23hp engine does not come with everything needed. Makes you work for the extra power.
Fantastic Job!!!
Hi Bob, I love your 318. I've just upgraded mine to the same engine as yours. I'm having a bit of problems with throttle and choke cables, did you use the original ones or are they new, if so where did you get from? THX!
Hi Henry. I used generic cables. The throttle and choke can both be mounted in 2 orientations. If you study the linkage, make sure the high throttle position of the cable means you are pulling the gov. spring tighter. The choke is “on” when the lever is back towards the rear of the tractor. Hope that helps.
@@BobWilson84 Thank you Bob, it's helpful!
So clean!
Great work!
Looked like a nice project. Well done! Is the radiator under the tank to cool the engine or transmission?
It actually does both. One circuit for engine oil and one for hydraulic fluid
Nice job..👍
Great job! Very very nice!!!♡♡
Man that is Cool.
Just start over after breaking the knob..😂
That busted knob is a metaphor for all my projects..... there’s always something
Clean, I like it
What brand or part number did you use for PTO? I need to get on for same engine
Go into the previous video about the tractor.... I explain the model number and what it takes to mount it correctly. Good luck with your project!
what size tires did you go with? I like the look.
23 12 12 rears and whatever the standard size up front normally is... Sorry I can’t recall
Hope by heating the fuel you don’t have problems !
Hey Rodger, how is the fuel being heated? The lines are running in the same configuration as a normal 300-series tractor. So far about 100 hours on it by the new owner who loves it with no problems.
that thing is sick
Fantastic job except he forgot to paint the red engine shroud JohnDeere Green!!!
Funny. I subscribed too. Nice build.
Thats pretty neat guy
beautiful
I wish you could show us how you hooked the shaft to the engine. Through the screen. Never seen that before
Hi Kyle, the 3rd video I made of this tractor shows the keyed shaft, It bolts onto the flywheel with two bolts, not too complicated. The part is available anywhere that sells engine. It's typically referred to as a "stub shaft" Let me know if you need any help!.
1 Is the exhaust S/S or aluminized steel?
2 Consider a "grease shield" on the U-Joint. Or less zealous greasing...
3 What is that tiny red lever near the 2 large levers?
Would worry about possible heating of the gas tank/boiling?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QFN3DU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Looks good!
Why would the gas tank have been built with the lines entering below the normal fuel level? It looks there was all kind of space further back. They could even have tapped in the sides right?
I don't know what Deere was thinking... It's a ugly design in my opinion. I guess with the new bushings and gasket maker it should last another 10-15 years. Ethanol in the new fuel probably makes things worse too. Thankfully there's a gas station with ethanol-free nearby. Have a good one - excellent username sir.
My guess is having the fuel lines coming out the bottom of the tank would interfere with a rear PTO shaft if you had one on the tractor. It would be risky trying to route both fuel lines away from the rear PTO shaft.
Looks Great
Very nice! Subscribed!
very nice!
I think maybe the yokes on each end of the drive shaft should line up with each other.
Good eye! The two yokes on that driveshaft are out-of-phase.
If you're talking about the difference in height between the engine and transmission input shaft, that's normal. These driveshafts are designed to operate at a slight angle. The crankshaft end of the driveshaft on a stock Onan-powered 318 also sits up a little bit higher.
MichaelTJD60 If you remove the driveshaft from the machine, the two ends (the yokes) should be aligned with each other, not rotated at different angles from one another. ua-cam.com/video/uRkYhI1afHk/v-deo.html
@@MichaelTJD60 James Moran has it correct. Every car or truck I have worked on are the same the yokes should be on the shaft should line up.
@@cyberia55 I see what you are saying. I misunderstood your original comment. My mistake.
I commend you on the paint job and the everything you done EXCEPT THE BRIGGS ENGINE they are cheaply made I am a master certified mechanic on Briggs, Onan, Kohler, Kawasaki, and Honda, Tulsa Engine warehouse has the swap kits and I would have put the 24 hp HONDA engine myself they are the best engines and your Great grand kids could use the same engine!!
Yep, Honda’s a better engine. It was also another $1000 to spend on a tractor that is worth $3,000 (or less) it comes down to dollars and cents. Is there something specific to the Briggs that makes it a lesser engine? The new owner of this tractor uses it for fun, and it would probably take 20 years to get to 1,000 hours. The likelihood of ever wearing out the Briggs is pretty slim. Please, let me know what to look for in the Vangards... in your experience what is the weak link? Overall build quality? A specific component?
Tulsa Engine Warehouse went out of business at least 2 years ago LOL.
You need to get someone (who has & can use Autocad) to develop Autocad Engineering Drawings for the custom metal fab parts you had to fabricate to facilitate this repower project...
I'll first say that this is one of the best rebuilds I've seen. You have a major fault in your PTO set up, without a key for the out put shaft, it will slip and destroy your crank.
Thanks for the compliment Daniel. Maybe I didn’t explain it well enough.... there is indeed a 1/4 square key that clocks the crank and the PTO. Without that - you are 100% correct sir.
Nice I have the 24 horse Honda way more power than it needs
Awesome, cant have too much power!
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Where did you get the kit from!?
Made most of it myself, was pretty straight forward.
@@BobWilson84 awesome, I have Massey 16 and the only thing I could see that would need modifications would be the driveshaft for transmission
Instead of drilling a hole in the fill cap for hydro fluid why not just fix the vent so it works properly? And me personally would have went with the japan made Honda engine.. but thats just my preference over Briggs... but in my JD ill stick with my 18HP magnum Kohler..horizontal twins are torque monsters..and sound like a diesel..
From what I can tell the filler hose actually is the vent (or should be) Anyways, the Honda is awesome too, but I found a screaming deal on the Briggs Vanguard. I like the magnum Kohler engines too. Have a good one.
What tires are those?
Carlisle Tru-Powers on the back. Generic imports on the front.
I just got a 420 with a Honda 24hp gx670. 8m having issues with the governor carburetor linkage in the front. Any suggestions is helpful since I cant locate any books on the settings. I'd sure l ou ve to get mine like yours but I'm using for winter plowing. I can't locate the front mount to the frame for a 420 or complete unit cheap enough. Message me at face if possible
Hey Robert. The throttle linkage should be straight forward on the GX670. As a rule of thumb: increase throttle on the lever should increase tension on the governor spring. The front mount for snow plows comes up on eBay every so often, just keep your eyes peeled. Also, check out mytractorforum for lots of good info and tons of folks willing to help.
@@BobWilson84 is there a way to send pictures
@@BobWilson84 I can take pics from mine to send. I still need to finish my throttle cable
Robert Duncan. I’m happy to help, but this may not be the most efficient method of solving your problem. I suggest creating an account on MyTractorForum and asking there. Unfortunately you will not be able to upload photos of your project here.
@@BobWilson84 thanks for the assistance but I've figured it out. Sometimes it's easy to figure things out like many projects I've done on other things in the past. Keep up the great films
which is the size of the rear tires
Hi, they are imported 26x12x12 on the factory narrow wheels. The fact that they are imported means they are actually closer to 24x12x12 real dimensions. Hope that helps.
SWEEEEET !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone should install a Mopar 318 in a John Deere 318.
Very clean! Super nice