Laptop vs Desktop (RTX 4060) - MUCH Closer Than You Think!

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    The difference between Nvidia’s RTX 4060 graphics card and RTX 4060 laptop GPUs is much closer than you think! I’ve compared 25 games at 1440p & 1080p as well as thermals, fan noise, power draw, price & more to show you the differences!
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    RTX 4060 Laptop vs Desktop Timestamps:
    0:00 4060 Laptop & Desktop GPUs Are The Same?
    0:40 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte
    1:17 GPU Spec Differences
    1:38 GPU Power Limit Differences
    2:08 GPU Power Scaling
    2:37 Laptop Test System
    2:52 Desktop Test System
    3:13 Size Difference
    3:27 Fan Noise Difference
    3:41 Temperature Difference
    3:47 Power Draw Difference
    3:57 TGP Difference
    4:06 Clock Speed Difference
    4:15 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
    4:21 Cyberpunk 2077 - Strange Results
    4:49 Low Differences - Red Dead Redemption 2
    4:56 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    5:07 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022)
    5:28 Apex Legends
    5:52 Terrible 1% Lows.. DOOM Eternal
    6:19 More 1% Low Problems - Dead Space
    6:39 Hogwarts Legacy
    6:58 17 More Games Tested (1440p & 1080p)
    7:32 25 Game Average Difference at 1080p
    8:02 25 Game Average Difference at 1440p
    8:30 25 Game Average FPS
    8:59 Price Difference & Sales
    10:15 Cost Per Frame (Best Value)
    10:41 More Important Differences Than FPS…
    10:48 Upgrade Options
    11:03 Do You Need Portability?
    11:52 Even Bigger Gap Between RTX 4070 Laptop & Desktop!
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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +115

    Update: 2:39 should say 2x 16gb for 32gb total, not 2x 8gb.

    • @rayanpatel3306
      @rayanpatel3306 Рік тому +2

      Hey, will you do a review on the Asus TUF A15 7940hs?

    • @Pheryos
      @Pheryos Рік тому

      JARROD WHEN are you reviewing the best 1000 dollar laptop right now the victus
      You said you would review the omen transcend too

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +2

      @@rayanpatel3306 Don't know yet, ASUS don't have one to lend.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +1

      @@Pheryos Maybe a month away on the Omen, not sure we'll get a Victus this year. These things take a long time to work through, we try to review one laptop a week, and we have like 5 here at the moment.

    • @Pheryos
      @Pheryos Рік тому

      @@JarrodsTech thx for the reply i appriciate it i have been an hp fan for a long time and i really think your the most reliable "laptop reviewer" in youtube
      and others don't really cover most things about hp or they just boot lick no down sides
      anyways all the best i wil wait for those videos

  • @Zack-Strife
    @Zack-Strife Рік тому +185

    The moment you see the 115W TGP, you know you will get identical performance to the laptop version lol

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +44

      Haha yep

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +11

      that's because the die is the same. The desktop 3070 consumes 70 watts(around 40%) more power than the laptop 3070 ti(they have exactly the same specs, same core count, memory etc) yet the laptop version is only 5-10% slower. Although both are important, difference in specs matters more than power consumption.

  • @samserious1337
    @samserious1337 Рік тому +144

    Most of the differences are because of the CPU and RAM config, not actually cuz of the RTX 4060.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +54

      More so at 1080p, yes I agree with you, but at the same time, it kind of is what it is. I did my best to match the CPU/RAM, so that's just a legit difference between the platforms. Even so, the FPS gap is WAY higher when commparing 4070/4080/4090 laptops and desktops.

    • @stormBOXua
      @stormBOXua Рік тому +1

      @@JarrodsTech The difference is only in a much more powerful CPU, 13900k is total overkill (TDP)

    • @dd22koopaesverde58
      @dd22koopaesverde58 Рік тому

      ​@@JarrodsTecha 13900non K would be closer

    • @advancedmomuser-kb2qn
      @advancedmomuser-kb2qn Рік тому +1

      ram on a desktop was an absolute crap,lol....

  • @vedantvasu
    @vedantvasu Рік тому +14

    3:14 Could've never noticed that 😨

  • @lil_brumski
    @lil_brumski Рік тому +62

    Thanks for including monitor and kbm in the desktop system's cost per frame, not many reviewers do that!

    • @bulletpunch9317
      @bulletpunch9317 Рік тому +12

      Shouldnt mouse be added to laptops too? Or do people game on trackpads?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +14

      @@bulletpunch9317 yeah I think mouse should be excluded from both, because both need it. The desktop needs speakers though, and that's a few more dollars at least, depending on how good laptop speakers are.

    • @bulletpunch9317
      @bulletpunch9317 Рік тому +2

      @@TabalugaDragon some monitors come with speakers, most are trash.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +2

      @@bulletpunch9317 yeah well, my monitor's speakers are notieably worse than my laptop's speakers. Like you said, most are trash.

    • @tigeralpha7600
      @tigeralpha7600 Рік тому +4

      ​@@bulletpunch9317 well you can use a laptop trackpad to at least some extent unlike desktop where you won't have anything at all to move your mouse
      not to mention camera,speakers, windows, microphone and a power backup in the form of battery

  • @abhishekshah11
    @abhishekshah11 Рік тому +115

    Great video. I just ordered a 4060 laptop and while I agree the prices for a 4060 laptop are a bit high right now, it makes sense if work demands it. You can't carry your desktop everywhere and if you're gaming on the move, a bit of compromise isn't bad.

    • @johnycash99
      @johnycash99 11 місяців тому +2

      What did you get and for how much?

    • @Stape_Playshion
      @Stape_Playshion 10 місяців тому

      @@johnycash99i got the acer nitro 5 core i 5 12th gen, 16gb ddr5, rtx 4060 (full powered) 8gb for $886usd ( including taxes)

    • @Stevewilldoit96
      @Stevewilldoit96 10 місяців тому +4

      Lenovo 4060 Laptop is $1400 CAD and a prebuilt desktop is $1400 CAD. It's actually the same price for me.

    • @johnycash99
      @johnycash99 10 місяців тому +2

      I just got a laptop with a 4060 for 1250 cad. It's friggin unrealistic

    • @aimbotff2551
      @aimbotff2551 10 місяців тому

      ​@@johnycash99which laptop pls ?

  • @saibot_y
    @saibot_y Рік тому +24

    I would really like to see the gap between CPU performance lowered when doing these comparisons, while it's probably not possible to make the performance 1:1, the desktop chips can always be downtuned to approach the performance in the laptops. A couple of Single and Multicore benchmarks can verify these differences. That would make the comparisons so much more reasonable. I'm sure cyberpunk in this test performed better on the desktop just because the CPU was better(as it's a hugely CPU dependent game) we saw the performance gap narrow at 1440p because it was no longer CPU Bound there.

    • @portman8909
      @portman8909 10 місяців тому

      But you wouldn't want to use a 4060 1440p so point is mute I'd say.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 6 місяців тому

      moreover older gen cpus/chipsets....of which IMO these 300$ gpus are marketed towards ppl upgrading from "OLDER GEN" gpus.... meanwhile the bottleneck aspects of how zen2 and older non K intel chips perform with more modern GPU's esp when paired with something like 3200mhz ram. Or c18 ram. Equates to having a 4070 desktop yield 4060 fps....due to these bottlenekcs...or the only way end users are going to see the Frame yields of a 4060 with modern cpu/chipests....is if they buy/bottleneck a 4070 or 7700xt...the sad truth about waiting for future generations to justify a "GPU" upgrade....will just wind up being a 15-30% bottleneck.

  • @johnlpz2806
    @johnlpz2806 Рік тому +4

    Always love your gpu comparison for desktop and mobile.

  • @mattmdmalic
    @mattmdmalic Рік тому +2

    Great comparison. Although the results were quite expected 😅. Eager to see those new laptop specific vids you said you cover next(Omen Transcend 16).

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      Transcend is on the list, I have a 6800 retest today

  • @cameronbosch1213
    @cameronbosch1213 Рік тому +26

    These results weren't too surprising, given the TGP of the desktop GPU...
    And I can't wait to see how Ngreedia screwed over the RTX 4070 in the upcoming 4070 vs 4080 laptop GPU comparison!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +4

      That one is coming Friday, still editing it 😎

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Місяць тому +1

      given the difference in specs you mean, unlike higher class GPUs of this generation, 4060 laptop and desktop are speced exactly the same. Just an example laptop 2080 consumes 70 watts or so less than the desktop version, yet desktop 2080 is only 10-12% faster on average at 4k(where there is 100% GPU load).
      4070M, 4080M and especially 4090M have drastically worse specifications compared to desktop versions, hence why the difference is huge. Basically, they should be named a tier lower to match desktop GPUs specifications like cuda cores, vram amounts and memory bus.

  • @MrEstarion
    @MrEstarion Рік тому +341

    Which bashes the desktop more than praises the laptop

    • @Antagon666
      @Antagon666 Рік тому +42

      Yup, it's a sheep in wolf's clothing. Overpriced 4050 with the lowest end chip in the lineup...

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +15

      why? in 1000 series they were this close in performance too. Are you saying in 1000 series desktop performance was bad for the time?
      Same with laptop 3070 ti vs desktop 3070 which have the same specs.

    • @Antagon666
      @Antagon666 Рік тому +45

      @@TabalugaDragon you have to look at the whole context here... 4090 is more than 70% faster than 3090, meanwhile 4060 is only 15% faster than 3060 and even loses in some cases, which is infuriating.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +4

      @@Antagon666 I don't get what you mean. Sure the laptop 4090m is much faster, and it would be much closer to the real desktop 4080 it's based on if Nvidia kept naming honest. 20-25% difference to be precice. Naturally, the lower end ones like 4070 would be even closer. Could as well be 5-10%, easily.

    • @Antagon666
      @Antagon666 Рік тому +27

      @@TabalugaDragon i mean that whole lineup is skewed

  • @DamianNocun
    @DamianNocun Рік тому +1

    Very nice covered. And how is in real life in terms of power usage and electricity cost difference between those 2 machines ? Is it still truth that Laptop is "eating" 2 times less electricity in average ?

  • @chy453
    @chy453 Рік тому +3

    great job as always Jarrod.

  • @ironicloud
    @ironicloud Рік тому +11

    So, at min 0:17 I can say about performance comparison: 4090 Mobile = 4070 TI desktop, 4080 Mobile = 4070 desktop, 4070 Mobile = 4060 TI desktop, 4060 Mobile = 4060 desktop, 4050 desktop versione isn't announced yet but 4050 Mobile is available (of course VRAM in some cases are different, cooling system is different and also electric Watt usage is quite relevant)

    • @lil_brumski
      @lil_brumski Рік тому +1

      Well...we all knew that 🗿

    • @parkersnipes6573
      @parkersnipes6573 Рік тому

      No. 4090 mobile = 4070ti desktop

    • @ironicloud
      @ironicloud Рік тому

      @@parkersnipes6573 now it's correct

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +5

      you mean performance. Please specify that. Because by specs 4090m=desktop 4080(except for memory type), 4080m=desktop 4070 ti, 4070m=desktop 4060 ti and the rest are the same on both.
      If Nvidia was honest with names and specs laptops and desktops would be MUCH closer together, like in case of this 4060.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      @@parkersnipes6573 nope, the laptop 4090 has more cores and 1\3 more memory.

  • @jk_46
    @jk_46 Рік тому +17

    Had my rtx4060 laptop delivered this week thanks to your reviews, really appreciate your work and really happy with my decision!

    • @whatever_2808
      @whatever_2808 Рік тому +1

      Which one?

    • @jk_46
      @jk_46 Рік тому +3

      @@whatever_2808 Asus a15

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +10

      Glad I could help!

    • @OlviMasta77
      @OlviMasta77 11 місяців тому

      Is it still running normally? Hot? Dust? Noise?

    • @jk_46
      @jk_46 11 місяців тому +7

      @@OlviMasta77 maybe you should ask after a year or 2 of use not 1 or 2 months mate, thats never going to be an issue so soon

  • @StambeccoAllaFragola
    @StambeccoAllaFragola Рік тому +2

    Hi! Are you considering doing a review of the Asus ProArt Studiobook 16"? Not the 3d guy, the "regular " one with 13980hx and rtx 4070. Thanks for your work, your channel has amazingly useful content!

  • @Razarex
    @Razarex 7 місяців тому

    This voltage limit on the laptop version, is that something that can be updated in the future? When the tech is there?

  • @Ty4ons
    @Ty4ons Рік тому +4

    I think the laptop 4060 has more L2 cache which can explain the Cp77 numbers, that game likes memory bandwidth.

  • @velmanski
    @velmanski 10 місяців тому +3

    Bought a zephyrus g16 with 4060, its so fast compared to my old 1060 omen. The portability of a laptop is the main reason why I got it. Even if for moving around the house and playing in the same room as my wife while she’s on her desktop. I dont know if at this stage I would ever go back to owning a tower.

  • @mitchp30
    @mitchp30 2 місяці тому

    It's crazy, I just watched a few of your videos to compare the 4060 desktop to the 4080, and 4090 max q laptops, and for a laptop to outperform a desktop is amazing imo. I know the specs are different and vary, but still very impressive. Thank you so much for your videos Jarrod 😊

  • @sgh9533
    @sgh9533 Рік тому

    Its really great video! Thanks!

  • @greenman8
    @greenman8 Рік тому +3

    I look at these and I think, they compliment each other. I would rather have two able systems rather than, to have one or the other, even if I could then, jump up a tier. My Desktop build would probably get a 3060ti or RX 6700 though.

  • @mossim100
    @mossim100 Рік тому +2

    Best content on AD107 chipset. Thank you Jarrod!

  • @SportbikerNZ
    @SportbikerNZ 3 місяці тому

    Very interesting comparison. Way closer than I expected on price and performance.

  • @l3rion
    @l3rion Рік тому

    whats the best cpu you've seen paired with the 4060 ?

  • @antonioserrano9132
    @antonioserrano9132 Рік тому

    Hi, can you please help me? I have a laptop and I want to automate the changing of the hertz of the screen and the battery characteristics when I plug and unplug the power cord. Do you know a tool or even the pianification unit of Windows that can do this? Thank you

  • @crissnickers_frog6689
    @crissnickers_frog6689 Рік тому

    hey is not screen miroring important?one or two GPU's important?or ading a external GPU to a laptop?and no RE$IZE_bar comparising?@gaming or just ?a motherboard with or no resize bar,...and the summer heat in the room?and why not adding a better soundcard to the laptop?

  • @teehee8522
    @teehee8522 9 місяців тому

    this is pack with good information. thanks for the video

  • @kanshashiteiru6552
    @kanshashiteiru6552 Рік тому +2

    Hey Jarrod, i saw some laptops with Intel 12th gen CPUs with Nivdia 4000 series GPUs, would that be better in terms of 1% lows?

  • @mohamedelshafey2879
    @mohamedelshafey2879 Рік тому +1

    Why you did not include the frames per watt graphs?

  • @je5terc0re
    @je5terc0re Рік тому +7

    4060 Laptop has a bigger 32MB L2 cache, while desktop one has only 24MB.
    This is actually means a lot for RTX 40 Series GPU, these lacks VRAM bandwidth.

    • @suschilegge1683
      @suschilegge1683 10 місяців тому

      Damn that's true, didn't notice that!

    • @hupe5836
      @hupe5836 10 місяців тому +1

      Laptop 4060 sales: 📈🍷🗿

    • @abnhoms5985
      @abnhoms5985 6 місяців тому

      Im about to buy lenovo legion 5 Rayzen 7 7735hs , RTX 4060 with 16g ram is it good or not because i heard that RTX 4060 is waste of money

    • @misterlove7895
      @misterlove7895 5 місяців тому

      ​@@hupe5836rtx 4060 laptop is real deal, some models are cheaps and affordable

  • @Collibri
    @Collibri Рік тому

    Hello Jarrods ,
    would u be interested to do review of Oculink adapter for M.2 slot to PciE for external graphic card >? I have seen even that test for Asus Ally and external Gpu so i would be interested how good is performence from OcuLink adapter to Gpu for normal or old laptop , name of product i mean (NFHK PCI-E 3.0 M.2 M-key to Oculink SFF-8612 SFF-8611 External Graphics Card GPD WIN Max2 and SSD)..

  • @simonbooth4888
    @simonbooth4888 Рік тому

    Can you do a 4060 vs 4070 Latop review - e.g. Lenovo Legion 5 Pro can be ordered with either GPU (4070 = +220 GBP)

  • @paulantonyancel4570
    @paulantonyancel4570 Рік тому

    Which laptop should i get for gaming under 3000$

  • @stnr3107
    @stnr3107 5 місяців тому

    thank for review ❤

  • @CzarnyHusarz_
    @CzarnyHusarz_ Рік тому

    Jarrod am sorry Couldn't find it. I have Lenovo Legion 5 17ACH6H 17,3 will it work to plug in eGPU trough type C usb 3.2 via usin thunderbolt f.e rtx 3060,70 etc?

  • @RTXGaming3070
    @RTXGaming3070 Рік тому

    Could you please tell me how to do power scaling test

  • @elgodric
    @elgodric Рік тому

    It's been a lifetime since you have done an HP OMEN review! What do you think about them? Great video btw as always keep up

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +1

      yeah, I've had issues getting them. I have a Omen Transcend 16 in testing at the moment though.

  • @sanskarsingh518
    @sanskarsingh518 4 місяці тому

    Love you Jarrod

  • @traviswruck3637
    @traviswruck3637 Рік тому

    Hey mate i think you should do another reveiw on the gp66hx 12ugs i just got mine as it was on sale and it rips. I7 12800hx, 2x8gb ddr5 rams, rtx 3070ti 8gb, Oled 240hz 15.6 screen, steel series rgb keyboard, the charger is a 330w brick, they also come with thunderbolt port aswell. tell ya what got a good bargain at $2200

  • @paradoxine6287
    @paradoxine6287 3 місяці тому

    I have the Strix G16 4060 + i713650HX, will it fare the same? (the one you tested)

  • @wawaweewa9159
    @wawaweewa9159 Рік тому

    Did you try limiting the number of cores active or power limit the cpu, in those big difference games?

  • @akshaysom
    @akshaysom 9 місяців тому

    Can someone explain what is voltage limit and how does it relates to power and the performance of gpu?
    Also is this a software restriction, which may/can be removed in future to gain more performance?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  9 місяців тому

      More info in this video. ua-cam.com/video/jMMrh6PpLI4/v-deo.html

  • @Biz7288
    @Biz7288 Рік тому +1

    When you will review Asus tuf rtx 4060 ?

  • @Clapxiomatic
    @Clapxiomatic Рік тому +4

    Would have been nice to see the laptops 4060 memory overclocked to 17gbps for at least a few games, just to see if that would actually match the desktop chip's results. Just curious since my own 4060 laptop handles a 17gbps oc no problem.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      the only big differences in this comparison were in games with huge amount of fps, meaning they were bottlenecked by the CPU. The other games were so close that I don't think overclocking memory would make a noticeable difference. Maybe a couple % tops.

    • @eNv3n0mX
      @eNv3n0mX 7 місяців тому

      Laptop bottlenecked by cpu brother. Thats why in 2k its not as big of a difference

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 6 місяців тому

      yeah but most ppl IRL actually looking at 300$ gpus are probably upgrading from an older gen GPU...on an already oldergen/platform which will inhernetly bottleneck any higher tier gpu as it is. Its almost like marketing the budget/on sale 4060 laptop price segment towards these End users/older platform gamers. If you already own a mouse/keyboard and monitor IMO id rather go with a 4060 laptop bc in 2 years its going to sell for a better return than a MAJORLY dated zen2 or non k older intel desktop with a 300-400$ modern gpu which will also depreciate near 200$ by then...bc the newer "entry" range cards will no doubt dumpster the 4060 and 7600xt-7700xt as it is...to a point where ppl still arent buying these new GPU vs second hand ampere/big navi cards. Paired with the caveat of the inherent bottlneck older gen hardware already brings to the table/budget/diminishing returns. Theres really no reason to buy a newer/option if you have an older rig....much better off aiming for a TIER higher/older gen card to mitigate the bottleneck/fps yields as it is. During the paper launch 2020-2021 era a 5700xt was selling so high used....and gtx 1070ti were going for 400$....it only took 2 generations but now you can find that performance NEW for much cheaper than those cards were selling for used...and so on into future generations. AMD/NV did their homework on crushing owners of previous gen cards now that they both offer "cheaper" cards that lowered the price of the 2nd hand markets/options considerably. It forced me to sell my 3070 NOW while the 300$ 4060 is performing around its range...before it goes down even more on the 2nd hand market in the next months-coming year. Its just the shape of gaming landscape these days.

  • @riftgod6169
    @riftgod6169 Рік тому

    Would love a video dedicated to "power to watt"

  • @fran.fndz.techart
    @fran.fndz.techart Рік тому

    Same for cpu?

  • @salzstange6341
    @salzstange6341 Рік тому

    I am wondering, you are regularly using XMG Laptops for benchmarks and tested them before, but in your benchmark comparisons of other Laptops they never appear. Is there a reason for that?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +1

      We use different settings for review comparisons, they'll be added once we do the XMG reviews.

  • @KentRoads
    @KentRoads Рік тому +6

    Ah, the good old 2x8GB 32GB DDR5 ;)

  • @andmanab
    @andmanab 8 місяців тому

    Is it possible that the CPU in the laptop is throttling?
    The 13900K can use 125W (253W), the 13900HX only 55W (157W)! The 13900HX probably clocks lower, which would explain the big differences in some games.

  • @alejandronuno9829
    @alejandronuno9829 Рік тому

    Can you pls review the new hp envy 16 from bestbuy.

  • @unionofslavstanrepublics2317
    @unionofslavstanrepublics2317 Рік тому +60

    RTX 3060 6 GB VRAM laptop and 12 GB VRAM desktop card had similar differences too.
    The RTX 4060 laptop and desktop at 115W excluding dynamic boost makes sense why there was a small performance difference here.

    • @riichobamin7612
      @riichobamin7612 Рік тому +5

      No. That difference was way more !

    • @olddadagamer
      @olddadagamer Рік тому +2

      ​@@riichobamin7612depends which laptop some did some didn't

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +3

      @@riichobamin7612 Jarrod concluded 8% difference on average between laptop and desktop 3060. What are you even talking about?

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому

      @@TabalugaDragon its not the same chip, laptop 3060 had more cuda cores.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      @@vmafarah9473 it's the same chip, laptop one is more binned, hence it had more cuda cores active.

  • @KostaBakalinov
    @KostaBakalinov Рік тому

    Dear Jarrod or any other person, I really need help from someone because I am very worried. I just bought a brand new Legion 5i pro 3070 with i7 12700h. I struggled getting all windows 11 updates, but after some time I managed to do all windows 11 updates, bios or system updates thorugh lenovo vantage as well as getting the latest nvidia driver through geforce experience. My gpu working mode is on hybrid and I dont have issue with game performance. However, it happens quite frequently after running a game for 2 mins, for example queing for a PUBG match and dropping from a plane, the laptop freezes and then the legion shut downs and restarts. I dont see any performance or temperature issues, as also this happens in beginning of games as well. The laptop is brand new and as Ive said i have all the updates done. I really need help.

  • @jackali5014
    @jackali5014 Рік тому +1

    Hey Jarrod, Where can we find this laptop in Europe?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +2

      XMG sell in the Europe market, so the link below the video should work for you.

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 Рік тому +4

    It's easier for performance to be closer to each other at the low end because the desktop die is smaller and it's easier to approach that size for laptop.
    The good news is that for 1080p gaming laptops are more than capable of excellent performance without needing a crazy amount of power consumption. The NEXT gen, or current gen using AMD CPUs the CPU power consumption will be low for gaming so the GPU will get a generous amount of power and you won't need a monster laptop.
    The 1% lows will be better for next gen also, or even current gen laptops using AMD/4060 combo might also have better 1% lows once again because the CPU doesn't need as much power.
    But, what is this July and there's a lack of AMD laptops?

  • @gustavochavez4664
    @gustavochavez4664 Рік тому

    Can you make a RTX 4090 laptop vs RTX 3090 desktop?

  • @danielcombs5286
    @danielcombs5286 8 місяців тому

    I hope Jarrod see this comment. Would it be possible to compare new gen laptop performance against last Gen desktop mid range cards...

  • @alerdoreviews3927
    @alerdoreviews3927 5 місяців тому

    I got a 4060 laptop today and Im so happy with it. The cpu is 12450h I5

  • @rivardyvalencius4252
    @rivardyvalencius4252 Рік тому +1

    Hi jarod. I have a problem with my legion slim 5 which uses rtx 4060 but i cannot use the graphics in ultra setting. If i use it, it will randomly crashed from the game. Is it common for the 4060 or is it the games that dosen’t support the rtx??😅

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 6 місяців тому

      most likely a heating issue...of the heating system often at times in slim builds...shared heatpipes...and an issue managing thermals as well as pumping wattage to the cpu+gpu respectively depending on the game/engine/load. Any time you need a slight "sip" more of wattage be it 5w-15w to cpu...you drop that envelope offered to your GPU...which already leads to spiking/ and 1% low aspects. Add things like v droop, or menu fps/wattage vs in game...and you can easily YIELD crashing/reboot/voltage/over voltage scenarios due to how these systems inherently operate/run modern gaming loads. SLIM builds often have these inherent issues among bigger problems like soldered ram in the case of asus zephyrus builds per ex...or even worse shoddy liquid metal application from factory bricking your system XD. If that slim has liquid metal...this could also be a potential reason your crashing...bc its seeping out onto your main board/gpu vram and this has been widely regarded as a problem in this landcape.

    • @kelvinballer23
      @kelvinballer23 5 місяців тому

      It’s not heating issue, I have the same laptop. That’s probably a hardware problem and he needs to get it replaced. The Lenovo slim 5 may have “SLIM” in its name but it is not actually slim. It’s a beefy thick chassis laptop. It’s even thicker than the Asus ROG G16 (2023). My legion slim 5 has never overheated or experienced any cpu thermo throttling. Again pick one up, it’s a big 16in 5lb laptop. It’s not one of those slim MacBook style laptops. It’s a full powered TGP 140W 4060 GPU. Two upgradable ram slots and SSDs.

  • @Fender178
    @Fender178 Рік тому +4

    This reminds me of the Desktop 1060 6gb vs a fully powered Laptop 1060 6gb as it was closer in performance than you might think and it boiled down to CPU horse power at the end of the day back during the hay day of the GTX 1060.

  • @mr.alkenly889
    @mr.alkenly889 5 місяців тому

    the issue I have is that both the laptop and the desktop can play any game at high settings at 1080p with mostly above 60fps, how much more power do you need is the question? Like if you really want to maximize performance you can lower the settings to get better fps, and the laptop's mobility can not be understated, if you ever need to game anywhere other than your specific room at your house you will need a laptop, plus your laptop can act as your pc as well. it is just so much more versatile

    • @ahiwalter9153
      @ahiwalter9153 2 місяці тому

      Honestly the biggest problem with laptops has always been heat dissipation. We still just get too dang hot to pull the power draws consistently to perform. Idk if liquid cooling is the answer or we just have to wait for lower tpd components that can offer high performance. Not that far off I think

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Місяць тому

      @@ahiwalter9153 not necessarily. There is always GPU undervolting.

  • @AdamWasilewskiPRIV
    @AdamWasilewskiPRIV Рік тому

    That was interesting. I was expecting bigger gap between them.
    Grate comparison.
    What do you think about it?Mostly for 1080p gaming and streaming.
    XMG APEX 15 (M23)
    1x 15.6" IPS | 1920×1080 px | 144 Hz
    1x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop | 8 GB GDDR6
    1x AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS
    2x 16 GB (32 GB) DDR5-4800 Samsung
    1x 2 TB M.2 Samsung 980 PRO | PCIe 4.0 x4 | NVMe

    • @jayfuentez8569
      @jayfuentez8569 11 місяців тому

      It’s a great card for 1080p gaming. Anything else you would be expecting too much

  • @thatguyFS6961
    @thatguyFS6961 Рік тому +1

    My favourite channel on UA-cam!

  • @brokenjessssssssus
    @brokenjessssssssus Рік тому +1

    Jarrod, plz make lenovo legion slim 5 review. There are only 3 english language video about that laptop, and 2 of them are promotional

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      Not sure when I'll get a slim 5 but I have a Slim 7i review coming up next week

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight Рік тому +1

    I wonder if you hdmi port them together you could tether them both?

  • @hammerhandedhelm
    @hammerhandedhelm 6 місяців тому

    I own acer nitro 16 rtx4060 Ryzen 7840hs after basic undervolt and overhaul I know u can't get better than that with a monitor. My laptop has a QuadHd display 500+ nits it is one of the best displays I have ever seen among laptops can you get something close in that price range? I don't think so.

  • @bigtimebucksfan_6887
    @bigtimebucksfan_6887 7 місяців тому

    So should I buy another 40 series laptop I have a acer nitro 5 and has had issues with it already I had a gigabyte 3070 previously that model had no issues compared to the new 40 series
    So could it just be the new software or just a lemon from acer

    • @tecnociber6296
      @tecnociber6296 6 місяців тому

      Nitro siempre ha sido una pc muy mala vete por la predator Helios

  • @justabeardedguythatisahero9848

    can you please make a video on the dell alienware m18 and m16 ? does the cores really heats a lot ?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +2

      They said today that they will send the M16 soon, no news on the 18 yet but they know I want it

    • @justabeardedguythatisahero9848
      @justabeardedguythatisahero9848 Рік тому

      @@JarrodsTech what do you think of the new lenovo legion 7i ?
      will you advice on buying it, considering tis overall price and performance.

  • @senseiraijuryanyuki8023
    @senseiraijuryanyuki8023 Рік тому

    Could you do a test on Acer AN17 41 r9l6?

  • @_MiftahulHuda
    @_MiftahulHuda Рік тому

    Between a 3070 RTX Laptop 140 W TGP (LENOVO LEGION 5 PRO) and a 4060 RTX Laptop 100 W TGP (LENOVO LEGION SLIM 5 16APH8 44ID ), Which one should I consider, and why?

    • @jaxxz6589
      @jaxxz6589 11 місяців тому

      4060 i believe

  • @jcman-lp6lg
    @jcman-lp6lg 4 місяці тому

    When I was in highschool I grew up in a poor family where all I had was a mini laptop provided by the school I ran ps2 games at 5-15 fps. Honestly to me 1440p is overkill so I'm okay with resolutions under 1080 with medium to low settings. 4060 sounds perfect since it's not too cheap but also not to expensive.

  • @RanzaZlod
    @RanzaZlod 11 місяців тому

    Need test 4070 laptop vs 4060Ti desktop.

  • @krazyolie
    @krazyolie Рік тому +1

    It’s obvious from the architecture that the lower end nvidia parts are designed for low power usage, but this kills the performance as a desktop GPU as it means it doesn’t scale up, especially to higher resolutions.

    • @anhiirr
      @anhiirr 6 місяців тому

      while still pushing a bottleneck to anyone on older cpu/chipset platforms now feeling coerced to jump towards a new platform....or a new kit of ram on top of their "GPU" upgrade budget. When ppl have to buy a 4070 or 7700xt to get 4060/7600xt frame yields with their older gen hardware...to me it has to come as a STING to those end users.

  • @MCLUDAH
    @MCLUDAH 9 місяців тому

    Thanks

  • @Cars.
    @Cars. Рік тому +1

    Same thing on the Rtx 3060 am i right??

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      nope. desktop 3060 has twice the vram. So in years it'll get way better than the laptop one for ultra quality textures. It already is in some games.

  • @praveenreddy5903
    @praveenreddy5903 Рік тому +1

    Have u forgot to mention which monitor u use for testing the performance

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому

      I never mention it because it doesn't affect the video at all.

    • @praveenreddy5903
      @praveenreddy5903 Рік тому

      4k gaming monitor HDMI 2.1
      Test on this monitor u will see lot difference between laptop and desktop

    • @nishant5655
      @nishant5655 Рік тому

      @@praveenreddy5903 🙃

  • @kokizgt882
    @kokizgt882 Рік тому

    please review ASUS TUF A15 2023 7735HS RTX 4060

  • @XBnPC
    @XBnPC Рік тому +2

    Wow, just like your 3060 laptop vs desktop last year. Well, aside from the fact that the 3060 laptop still has better specs than all the rest 😂

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      it has half the vram of the desktop 3060 though

  • @deszaras3
    @deszaras3 Рік тому

    Heya Jarrod! Would you go for a 3070 or 4060 laptop? Sorry if I missed a comparison video!

    • @brokenjessssssssus
      @brokenjessssssssus Рік тому +1

      4060 have dlss3, so in about 2-3 years, when 3070 will have ~30-40 fps in AAA game, 4060 will have about 50-60, cuz of frame generation. P.s. that's my opinion, I might be wrong

    • @deszaras3
      @deszaras3 Рік тому

      @@brokenjessssssssus thank you!

    • @NamTran-xc2ip
      @NamTran-xc2ip Рік тому +1

      If you're buying brand new, 4060 is the way. However, you can find 3070 laptop for really cheap used.

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому +1

      ​​@@brokenjessssssssusnot that simple... The experience of input lag will be that of 30-40fps and there's many settings to play with (DLSS2, rt) to get an acceptable experience and 8gb VRam will be a limiter to both.
      DLSS3 is not real frames!
      3070/Ti can be had really cheap new as well.
      Go with whatever has the better deal IMO.
      I place subjective higher value on the original price point of a laptop too, quality of materials and engineering is why I will never again touch anything in the budget segment.

  • @ball5023
    @ball5023 9 місяців тому +1

    damn lucky i got a 4060 laptop not the higher ones

  • @MarkAelham
    @MarkAelham Рік тому +2

    Desktop Cpu is the main factor here. with same cpu they are pretty much same gpu.

  • @MrOB099
    @MrOB099 Рік тому

    Can you recommend any laptops in the last 12 months that don’t sound like a rocket taking off, and can still manage 1080p 60fps ?

    • @neverendinchaos4800
      @neverendinchaos4800 Рік тому +1

      I remember him mentioning the new ASUS TUF A16 being relatively quiet compared to some previous laptops.
      Or, at least, it was quiet enough for him to comment on it. You can check out his TUF A16 video, if you want more details. Hope this helps.👍

    • @greebj
      @greebj Рік тому

      Depends on what kind of settings you demand, most laptops these days have custom fan curves so you can tweak them to not be 100% duty cycle
      I got a cheap Aorus 15 and it can run the 130W 3070Ti on less than max fans keeping it

  • @circle679-m3i
    @circle679-m3i Місяць тому

    I'm buyng it for probability
    Wich model is good and silent?

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Місяць тому

      For laptop? This might help, I've posted the max fan noise results from every laptop we've ever testesd: jarrods.tech/laptop-fan-noise/

  • @ThepursuitofHappiness-fb8iy

    So why the 4070 version is so different?
    Is it safe to assume get laptop with 4060 than 4070?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      he explains it in the video. 4060 laptop and desktop are basically the same GPU. While the laptop 4070 uses a GPU the same as the desktop 4060 ti(which is FAR worse than the desktop 4070). So it's basically because Nvidia is greedy and scammy.

  • @c0r5e
    @c0r5e 8 місяців тому

    Finally they are back to being as close like they did with 10 series GPUs

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Місяць тому

      only the 4060... the ones above are a scam and are named 1 tier above their desktop counterparts

  • @karankhamgaonkar4058
    @karankhamgaonkar4058 Рік тому +1

    Could we please get a 4050 comparison too? Because 4050 is a more affordable option and most people buy the 4050 basic option due to a tight budget

  • @erenyeeeeeega
    @erenyeeeeeega 8 місяців тому +1

    4060 laptop with fg is the best thing you can buy rn i‘m havinn so fun playing all games at 2k with ultra settings

  • @ramakanthrama8578
    @ramakanthrama8578 Рік тому

    Hi, Can you please review the ASUS TUF A15/17 with Ryzen 9 7490 HS?

  • @last_decade_games
    @last_decade_games Рік тому

    Is asus tuf a15 2023 rtx 4060 worth to buy?
    Or lenovo loq 16

  • @clem9808
    @clem9808 Рік тому +4

    Lovelace 60 cards are so underwhelming.Would've bought the 4060 ti, if it wasn't because of pcie x8 .I'm somehow grateful of nvidia for doing that because I ended up buying the 4070,and I'm genuinely happy 😁.

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 Рік тому +7

      So they still got your money... 4070 is good but overpriced

    • @clem9808
      @clem9808 Рік тому

      In my country Rdna2 cards are still overpriced. 4070 is still cheaper than 6800 non xt. So 4070 is way better choice in my case. ✌️

  • @lil_brumski
    @lil_brumski Рік тому +4

    Still waiting for RTX 4080 mobile vs RTX 4070 mobile video!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  Рік тому +4

      Next week!

    • @lil_brumski
      @lil_brumski Рік тому +1

      ​@@JarrodsTechOMG Jarrod replied me 😮😅, thanks!

    • @nishant5655
      @nishant5655 Рік тому

      @@lil_brumski 😮😅

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      I wanna see laptop 4080 vs desktop 4070 ti since they are pretty much the same GPU, aside from memory speed that is.

  • @hugoshubert
    @hugoshubert 2 місяці тому

    Got an rtx 4060 studio laptop and it's sick. Runs whatever I throw at it, love the thing

  • @baggiotsai
    @baggiotsai Рік тому +1

    many 3070ti laptops still cost more than 4060 laptops, if same price, 3070ti laptop worth?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      depends on a laptop. If it's a Legion 5 pro with a 3070 ti vs something like TUF A15 with a 4070 then definitely the first option. Depends on your personal needs, really.

  • @d1kgaws12
    @d1kgaws12 Рік тому

    I prefer not needing any of that AI tech that not every game supports than being up-to-date on the latest and greatest AI tech. If nVIDIA could give us “essentials” versions of cards that just has DLSS and G-Sync support at most that would be great. AMD exists but I heard that they haven’t been doing so well either.
    Imma wait for 50 series and praying that it’s better at the consumer-grade end or get a 30 series card. The 4080s and 4090s marks the place where bang for your buck matters the LEAST.

  • @itsanivex
    @itsanivex 5 місяців тому

    it's remained me of 1650 laptop vs desktop lol 😂❤

  • @theodentherenewed4785
    @theodentherenewed4785 Рік тому +1

    An excellent video, we appreciate that you tested so many games. RTX 4060 Laptop is really good. I say that if anyone wants a better graphics card than that, they should buy a desktop and not a laptop. But RTX 4060 laptops are a good deal now.

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      excuse me? are you saying in laptops there is no better GPU than a 4060? 4080 laptop GPU is like 40% faster or so.

    • @GamingIntelCoreM-y
      @GamingIntelCoreM-y Рік тому

      You don't need more than a 4060 unless u a content creator posting 4k gaming videos on youtube lmao

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +1

      @@GamingIntelCoreM-y so you basically replace laptops every few years? because 4060 won't last forever. with a device you can't upgrade GPU in it's better to buy a more future proof one

    • @jayfuentez8569
      @jayfuentez8569 11 місяців тому

      If you can get a laptop with a 100w 4060 for a k then it’s a hell of a deal

  • @jonas8266
    @jonas8266 Рік тому

    Nice to see Rainbow Six Extraction on the list.

  • @TealTheDropster
    @TealTheDropster 3 місяці тому

    Can you compare a 4070 laptop to a 4060 desktop?

  • @dp27thelight9
    @dp27thelight9 Рік тому +1

    I think the best device this year could have been the ryzen 7940hs and rtx 4080 laptop.
    Basically a steam deck and desktop pc with rtx 4070 for $2000.
    The few options we have with amds integrated igpu is annoying.

    • @jipeh
      @jipeh Рік тому +1

      @TRC_WA if for some reason you wanted similar performance across both systems:
      laptop 4090 = desktop 4080
      laptop 4080 = desktop 4070
      laptop 4070 = scam
      laptop 4060 = desktop 4060

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому

      @@jipeh laptop 4090 is literally a desktop 4080 with slower vRAM and half the power consumption. It can't possibly have desktop 4080 performance. Jarrod's tech compared them and the laptop version is arouns 25% slower, so around 4070 ti level. But has 16GB of vRAM like desktop 4080.

    • @dp27thelight9
      @dp27thelight9 Рік тому

      @TRC_WA Matter of preference. I don't use desktops anymore and felt the rtx 4090 laptop both in performance and extra vram was worth it. Probably won't be a laptop 50% faster for 4 years.
      But my main point is not having rdn3 integrated GPU in all laptops is annoying because you could literally convert any laptop into having huge battery life instantly.

  • @gamingterrain3703
    @gamingterrain3703 Рік тому +2

    Plus if you go with the 4060 laptop you can also overclock it and make up most of that difference in performance

    • @d1kgaws12
      @d1kgaws12 Рік тому

      Egregious fan noise:

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 Рік тому

      Not possible, all the fps benefits are from CPU clockspeed so, you cant boost that much in laptop.

    • @gamingterrain3703
      @gamingterrain3703 Рік тому +4

      @@vmafarah9473 what? in a gpu bound scenario the frame rate is depedant on the gpu. i do it on my laptop all the time and consistently get a 10-15% increase in performance. im talking about overclocking the gpu not the cpu

    • @gamingterrain3703
      @gamingterrain3703 Рік тому

      @@d1kgaws12 headphones exist

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon Рік тому +2

      @@d1kgaws12 why? one can overclock a GPU without increasing power consumption (using excees voltage)