600 mm Heavy Liner Tested in the FX Impact M3 😎
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
- This is a test of the new (12-2022) 177 600 mm STX Superior Heavy liner in the FX Impact M3.
The test is made with two different slugs:
13 gr. ZAN and the 15 gr. NSA
They are tested at 75m (82y) and 100m (109y)
The reason for me to choose these slugs is because I have tested them both in the STX Superior liner so this is to see the difference between the liners and if it makes sence to change into the heavy liner.
For some reason I forgot to include in the video that the twistrate of the heavy liner is the same as the standard STX Superior liner 1:18.
Enjoy
Peter P/Viking Airgunner
Thanks for showing your experiments with the new "heavy" liner Peter. I got a 700 mm liner home here last Monday and am looking forward to the warmer weather (and probably more wind) so that my old arthritic fingers don't freeze to the trigger. 😃
Personally, I'm looking forward to running some 20 grains through to see if the new "heavy" liner can stabilize their flight down towards the target.
Mine 700 mm will arrive tomorrow and Im actually expecting more 8f that than from the 600mm.
I will probably not go to 20 gr, but I have a vision that the 16 gr Zan will be magic 😎
Love your channel. Straight talking reviews from a curious mind = Brilliant!!! Thank you :)
Thank you Nicholas 🙂
thank you very much sir , all you testing and examination with the fx m3 is what i wanted to . It is really.. really helpful and new experience for me . keep making lots of exiting video and all support from my side . love it .
Thank you for your positive comment and your support. Im happy that you find my content usefull and I will keep making my videos buddy 🙂
Next up will be about the 700 mm Heavy liner 😎
Nice to see that the 177 heavy liners do exist! :-) I've had mine on order for over 1.5years so hopefully will arrive soon. I ordered the 600mm and plan staying under 16gr but will see what it likes when it arrives!! Looking forward to the 700mm review.
Thats a long wait 😳 But I really think that it does the job 😎
Just hoping that the 700 will beat it 😃
Hi Peter,
Glad you received your new FX heavy liner barrel and it’s doing a good job with the .177 slugs .
Have a Merry Christmas and a safe & prosperous New Year !
Hi buddy and the same to you 🙂
Great video and a super interesting subject. It’s very good groups considering the cold weather (that somehow gives me accuracy challenges) and a 600mm barrel. Very cool !
Thanks buddy 🙂
Same with my experience in cold weather, so I cant wait to try in warmer weather 😃
I love your reviews, especially the long range shootings.
I hope myself soon to get a place for long range shooting and testing the RTI Prophet and the Air Ventury Avenger ( and the rest of the pack).
Thanks buddy 🙂
Its not easy to come by places to shoot long range but I hope that you will find a place 😎
Another great video! Thank you!
Hi friend very good grouping with this liner, especially at this distance; and as a beautiful video and good explanation 👍😉✊
Thanks buddy 🤗
Peter another outstanding video. Thank you and cheers from the northeastern USA. Also do you know how the heavy liner affects regular pellet accuracy? Like the 10.34 Jsb heavies?
Thank you so much 🙂
I havent tested the heavy liner with pellets myself, but I was out shooting with some buddies of mine last weekend and they had outstanding results with Beast at 885 fps ☝️🙂
I dont know if I would use Heavy in the heavy liner. But it would be interesting to know if it would work 🙂
👍🏼 nice groupings!
Thanks Robert 🙂
Its an amazing gun!
I suggest another screw in the bottom of the target. Just one on top allows the target to pivot upon impact which can have a serious effect on group size. Watch the target bounce around shot to shot in the video. Always enjoy your videos from over here in Tennessee, USA.
It wasn't all that bad for the most part. I noticed it most at 4:10
Hi buddy 🙂
I dont know why I never thought about that, but thanks for telling me 🤗
I will defenately do it next time Im in the forrest 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner I only discovered it because we have high winds from time to time where I live. Looked nice and calm in your forest that day though! Cheers and take care. :)
I noticed it too, but it is irrelevant because, I believe, Peter aims at the same spot regardless the movement of the target.
@@paavokaleva I agree. Definitely shooting at the same spot. It will however make your groups larger than they actually are if the paper moves around. Similar comparison would be canting your scope a little differently each shot.
Good groups. Nice.
Dejligt med en dansk kanal..ser frem til flere gode videoer
Tak for det og jeg arbejder på sagen 😃
Awesome video I really enjoy your videos good info 👍 thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍
Thanks Chris and thanks for always following me 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner yes sir
My friend you should start making videos about the .22 cal, you are one of the most realistic youtubers i ever watched
Thank you so much for that comment. It means alot to me since I really try my best to be 🙂
The thing is that shooting the bigger calibers requires a hunting licence in Denmark. This means taking a course over a full winter.
And the bigger calibers can not be shot in the garden like the 177 and it has to be registered and locked up in a safe.
So saddly quite a hazzle.
But it doesnt mean that I wouldnt love to shoot the 22 😃
@@VikingAirgunner oh i understand you , anyway we will keep watching your .177 cal videos it is very usefull too, good luck my friend wish you the best !
Very nice 👌 👍
Merry Christmas fellow Viking
Thanks buddy 🤗🌞😎
@@VikingAirgunner FX Panthera 22/700 on order. After that I can shoot groups like you
@@stedyone1090 That is such an interesting gun! Im looking forward to seeing more videos about it is 🤗
Im pretty sure that you will outperform me in your first attempt 😃
@@VikingAirgunner I'm a hunter.
But I practice every week on targets with 8 different air rifles usually only 4 at a time makes it interesting.
And I write down performance of pellets and slugs speeds and accuracy for each rifle.
Patriot Javelins Gen 1 & Gen 2 etc etc.
Waiting on new FX slugs to come out.
Heard something about new H& N HE high expansion slugs coming out too.
Stay warm.
Cheers 🍻
@@stedyone1090 I really like your approach! I believe that this is the way to get the best performance from any gun.
I absolutely love the Zans but both Javelin and the Halos will be much welcome in 177 🤗
Great video man. I also like the lighter ammo more you get better shot count, less expensive per shot and i'm only hunting paper :) . It looked quite cold out there. Any tips on cold weather usage of your M3?
Thanks JP 🙂
I will give you the short answer here and go deeper into the issue in a future video - planning a Q&A video in a near future.
First thing is to wait for the gun to get the same temperature as the surroundings. It can be quite inconsistant for a short while if you take it directly from the house to the garden. Will explain more in the video.
Secondly the ammo might like a different velocity than in the summer. Might not be much, but it can usually be solved with some fine adjustments 🙂
And thanks for a question to answer in the video 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner looking forward to that Q&A video. Maybe some advise in that video on the regs/presures as for me the presure seems to move with cold weather moving from warm to cold and back :). Hoping for your insight on that question.
@@jp8351 I will make sure to cover that aswell 🤗😎
Thanks for your inspiration 🙂
It’s a question out of topic. What do you think between Huma vs DonnyFL that you mount on your Impact?
Thanks you that you always bring new experiences to us.
No problem to be slightly off topic 😃
I have actually not tried the Donnyfl, but I would love to try. Moderators requires a permit here in Denmark, so it is a bit of a hazzle getting them.
But the difference between the standard one from FX and the Huma is not that much of a difference. Not that the Huma is bad, but maybe bcs the 177 is not so loud at low reg(?)
If I knew before what I know today I would not spend my money in moderators 🙄
@@VikingAirgunner Honestly answer! Thank you so much.
gracias.
Nice video, I might be wrong but isn't the heavy liner meant for and works better with larger calibres i.e. .25 and .30 running slugs ?
The idea about the heavy liner is to be able to shoot heavier slugs and in the 177 it has been a challenge to make anything above 13 gr to fly aswell as the 13 gr, so as you can see here, the 15 gr NSA imidiately grouped better in the heavy liner than it ever did for me in the superior liner🙂
Nice.
I am going to call the store on Monday to see how the repair of my Maverick are going, the 700 mm heavy liner is lying here right behind me on the table, ready to go in.
And when that happen even if i dont like it, i will have to brave the cold weather and go shoot a little.
I am wondering if slugs you have "failed" in the standard liner will suddenly be good in this new barrel, after all there are something new going on judging by the traces left on slugs pressed thru the barrel.
You are right! Getting a new gun is always different, but a new liner is a whole other story.
In the 600 mm liner I will have to test the KnockOuts 13.43 for sure. 13 gr H&N seemed to be bad still 🙄
But the 700 mm will be very interesting. Im getting mine tomorrow 😃
@@VikingAirgunner Turns out the screw that hold the cocking lever, can not be unscrewed more than a little, so it seem like that part also have to be changed, and i probably have to pay for that.
@@pliashmuldba I hope that you will get your gun back very soon!
hello! How do you get the first regulator to recover so fast? Mine is at 150 bar and the second at 120 bar, cal 25. Sometimes the first regulator recovers a little slow, I have observed in your videos that it recovers quite quickly, thank you!
Hey Mike
I have not done anything special to my first reg, but if it is so slow at filling that it effects the filling of the 2nd reg it might be an idea to rebuild with new o-rings 🤔
Not saying that it is the issue, but that is what I would try. Ernest has a video where he shows how to do it 🙂
Might i add the temperature can effect the results -/+ Great video and thank you,
Very good point 🤗
Então na sua opinião vale apena compra este cano 600 mm para usar slug eu também não gosto de atira com grande pressão gosto mais das velocidade baixar tem alguns vídeo noeu canal do UA-cam e muito obrigado por esta sempre compartilhando o conhecimento.
Escolhendo entre os forros, escolherei o forro Pesado para lesmas. Sem dúvida. Observe que você precisará aumentar o regulador em aproximadamente 5 bar por causa do cano mais apertado.
Obrigado por me seguir no meu canal
Atenciosamente
Peter P
@@VikingAirgunner muito obrigado por sua atenção e continua fazendo este vídeo que o senhor faz são muito bom e obrigado por sempre compartilha as suas experiência.
What is remarkable is that groups did not open up so much between 75 and 100 m!!!
I personally like to shoot heavier more than lighter slugs, the main reason is wind.
And I hope that there be a noticeable difference in stability when shooting the 16 gr later with the 700 mm.
Usually the groups open somewhere past 75 m, but the stability seems much better.
Groups might not be that much smaller, but there are more small groups with the heavy liner ☝️🤓
Good groups any way
I have a feeling that H&N slugs, ZAN in different sizes can tighten the groups.
funnily the 177 slugs are over bore compared to their .22 counterparts that come in .217 & .218 sizes.the pic of slug pushed thru the S Heavy liner bears the evidence i guess.
I just tried the 13 gr H&N in the heavy liner and they didnt perform well. The 16 gr might do differently.
Have you seen my review of them?
They seem to like lower speeds 🤔
The 16 gr Zan would probably do well but I will wait and try them out in the 700 mm liner - arriving tomorrow 😃🤗
@@VikingAirgunner yes I have seen I make it a point to watch your videos, but the memory is reset😂
Just saw it was done 5 months back will watch them again.
@@user045-key77 But it might be very different in the new liner, so your comment is defenately tanken into consideration 🤗
Thanks buddy 🤗
Whats the twist rate of the new liner?
It is still 1:18 🙂
Excuse my ignorance, is a liner a rifled barrel? Is a liner a sleeve that goes over the barrel? What’s a liner? What’s a sleeve? Are they the same? Thanks for any explanations.
The liner is the barrel and the sleeve is a carbon pipe that is made to stiffen up the liner.
The liner is riffled but made in a different way. The riffling is pressed in from the outside unlike how other barrels are made.
@@VikingAirgunner Thank you so much Peter. Now I understand. I love your videos and your honest take.
@@226eagleeye Thank you so much 🤗
I see 12.5gr listed on the NSA website, you say your slugs are 13.0gr, who made them?
13 gr are from ZAN. 12.5 gr NSA is also a great slug 👍👍
What a nice pcp airgun..
Hei, have you maked barrel indexing before testing?
I have tried it once on a different barrel but I never saw the big difference 🤔
The barrel is marked so I placed it at 12 🙂
@@VikingAirgunner big difference 🤔, no its not big.... But different for me on 100m
@@madeyeq4073 Many people seem to note a difference and I wish that I would aswell 😃
I am passionate about hunting, and I am a big fan of you.
I have a question I hope you can clarify. Super-Heavy barrel material and durability.
Thank you so much 🙂
Im not sure about the material, but I think that it is aluminium.
As for durability I have only shot it for a few months but it just seems to get better and better. I have never had a barrel that I wore out, so Im pretty sure that it will not happen with the heavy liner aswell. Even after thousands of shots.
@@VikingAirgunner thank 😍😍
@@VikingAirgunner In Vietnam. we can make very durable barrels that can go through 40 or even 50kg of slug rounds and still stay stable
@@VikingAirgunner but in my country it is taboo to use firearms on civilians.
@@navinguyen5683 Somehow it is understandable with your contrys history. Just sad that it affects a beautifull sport 🙄
So the big question is, are we going see the new phantera on your channel???
Usually you fx fans seem to have big pockets😄😄
Tunning Accessories, new guns etc etc...
I confess that I just have to have the new parts 😃
But the Panthera would require me to dig VERY deep into my pockets, so for now the M3 will do it for me 😃
-unless somebody will give me one 😜
And in that case you would see it for sure 😃😎
How much velocity? Nsa 15gr
Try 980 fps 👍
@@VikingAirgunner good luck
FX I hope your reading this. GET RID OF THE CHOCK. GET RID OF THE STX. Straight barrel, full ruffling. PLEASE!!!!