Hey great video. It’s 2024 and I appreciate your videos. I just purchased a Ricoma Vision DTG and the PT is killing me! Your video is a great help with pressure using my Ricoma 16X20 heat press. The fact that you use a roller also is valuable to spread the treatment evenly. Thank you
Glad to help. I updated my pretreat method. For best results you need two heat presses. One to hover and one to press. Spray the solution on, hover for 250 seconds once or twice then press for 30 seconds to lay fibers down before printing and you get no pretreat box at all because the hover steamed away the pretreat into the fabric. Time consuming but you get absolutely no pretreat box. Same for curing. Hover for ,about 300 seconds twice to make sure ink is cured. If you choose to press after hover you most likely will lose a noticeable amount of vibrance. Hope this helps.
@@adubbproductions I watch all your videos, as you are the go to guy for Ricoma products. lol I couldn’t operate my new 16X20 and I decided to you tube it and there you were with the exact same press. In one minute I had the press working. Thank you
Thank you Allan, i started with a Brother embroidery machine years ago and followed your training, now i'm still following you for my RI-1000, keep it going!
How effective is this? I'm thinking about getting into DTG when that new epson 10070 drops next month. Just learning how it works so I can determine if it's a good move. I usually make my merchandise with vinyl but I'm thinking the right DTG could def help elevate and let me do more design wise. (and for clients) but I primarily jus want to make merch to promote the stuff I have going on
BIG thing that being glossed over on the MINI is the adjustability of the AMOUNT you can lay down, it's adjustable! You can adjust the speed to lay down more or less. If you were using to its full capabilities, perhaps your opinion would change some, no? What are the spray settings on the mini? When you set it up, you put the setting in wrong and messed it all up for accurate usage. Did those changes get made and corrected? You can alter the spray settings and vary your amounts and you can also isolate a smaller image. ect ect. When it comes to PT and doing it on a consistent basis, you need to regulate the repeatability of the coverage. Far as the wires go, if you have dedicated area and workflow setup, it makes it much easier and less cumbersome. It is just one additional hose then the wire the spray gun has, and you can use more fluid up as opposed to having to refill your wagner tank. The sad part is MOST people get terrible print results with a spray gun because the lack of control and consistency, which is key! The Viper mini, or any dedicated machine keeps consistency and control. SO, yes on those factors it does what it's advertised to do.
Yea. I adjusted it back to what the viper rep or who ever it was recommended. I still think it’s laying down to much and I understand it can be adjusted but all of these variables just complicate something that i do simply by picking up my spray gun and spraying. It’s just to much. That my opinion. I wanna spend time printing on the dtg. This creates an entire long added layer of steps. Even when it’s set up and spraying and dialed in the wagner spray gun still gets the job done easier and faster.
@@adubbproductions Agh, well a correction on the mistakes made in that video would have been nice to note at least. Also, speaking to time savings, how much time do you save when you have a perfectly pretreated tee, against one that is over or under poretreated?? It takes WAY longer to reprint a tee then it does to PT them. Adjusting it faster lays down less, and running it 100% speed will only lay down 10 grams on the 14" spray with, which is rather minimal. Typical setting for the PT your using would be around 55/60. Then just leave it there, no need to adjust that again unless you want too or are using lots of different tees on the same run. The fact that you can leave the PT in a hand sprayer just goes to show that they are overpowered and use too large of a nozzle for PT. They are designed for paint which has a thicker consistency. The hand sprayer will eventually get gummed up and corroded, then you have to buy a new one; and yes it is cheap, but it's still a repeated expense. Removing the PT from the filter and nozzle just ensures your investment. The raw facts are that if you can lock in every step of your process better, the more control you have on the results. There is a reason why operations that move decent volume regularly DO NOT use a hand sprayer, way to many variables that are not repeatable. The hand sprayer works for you as you have lots of time vested to it. Most end users will have a very difficult time hand spraying. Your prints do look great, and once you get the process locked in, the results speak for themselves! It's really hard to teach that and that is proven by how many people have issues with doing it that way. With a machine you can teach anyone to lay down the right amount of PT perfectly each time.
I don’t think that 360 sprayer would be good for this. Looking at the videos it seems like the 360’s purpose is covering more area and pretreating needs to cover a specific area.
I was thinking when doing the pretreatment do you have to close the press all the way down? If the press is set to a high enough temperature do you think if you hover over the shirt it would prevent the square from showing up ?
Yes it would and after you print you can hover also. Totally skip pressing all together. I’ve done that as well. I like the idea of pressing because I feel like it pushes the ink into the fabric and it gives a different smooth finish. You can do it either way.
Another thing is why not just pretreat all your shirts in advance. Example you have 20 shirts , then take one day just only doing pretreatment then the next day just press the shirts. You can easily lay 4 shirts along a long table and spray them all at once. If you have two heat press , you can press two at a time .. that's just what I do!
It’s a platen protector to make sure no residue gets stuck on my platen while pressing. Heat transfer warehouse sells them. Just search platen protector. Here is my affiliate link. heattransfer.ositracker.com/159730/11767/url_15370
Hey great video. It’s 2024 and I appreciate your videos. I just purchased a Ricoma Vision DTG and the PT is killing me! Your video is a great help with pressure using my Ricoma 16X20 heat press. The fact that you use a roller also is valuable to spread the treatment evenly. Thank you
Glad to help. I updated my pretreat method. For best results you need two heat presses. One to hover and one to press. Spray the solution on, hover for 250 seconds once or twice then press for 30 seconds to lay fibers down before printing and you get no pretreat box at all because the hover steamed away the pretreat into the fabric. Time consuming but you get absolutely no pretreat box. Same for curing. Hover for ,about 300 seconds twice to make sure ink is cured. If you choose to press after hover you most likely will lose a noticeable amount of vibrance. Hope this helps.
@@adubbproductions I watch all your videos, as you are the go to guy for Ricoma products. lol I couldn’t operate my new 16X20 and I decided to you tube it and there you were with the exact same press. In one minute I had the press working.
Thank you
Thank you! I’m brand new to the DTG world and love your video tutorials
Glad to help. Thanks for watching.
Thank you Allan, i started with a Brother embroidery machine years ago and followed your training, now i'm still following you for my RI-1000, keep it going!
Love the transparency. Keep smashing it A-Dubb!
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Thanks for the information. Great video.
What is the pretreat solution?
thank you but a newbie here! this is all a crazy process alot of ifs and maybes!!!!
Indeed.
How effective is this? I'm thinking about getting into DTG when that new epson 10070 drops next month. Just learning how it works so I can determine if it's a good move. I usually make my merchandise with vinyl but I'm thinking the right DTG could def help elevate and let me do more design wise. (and for clients) but I primarily jus want to make merch to promote the stuff I have going on
BIG thing that being glossed over on the MINI is the adjustability of the AMOUNT you can lay down, it's adjustable! You can adjust the speed to lay down more or less. If you were using to its full capabilities, perhaps your opinion would change some, no?
What are the spray settings on the mini? When you set it up, you put the setting in wrong and messed it all up for accurate usage. Did those changes get made and corrected? You can alter the spray settings and vary your amounts and you can also isolate a smaller image. ect ect. When it comes to PT and doing it on a consistent basis, you need to regulate the repeatability of the coverage. Far as the wires go, if you have dedicated area and workflow setup, it makes it much easier and less cumbersome. It is just one additional hose then the wire the spray gun has, and you can use more fluid up as opposed to having to refill your wagner tank.
The sad part is MOST people get terrible print results with a spray gun because the lack of control and consistency, which is key! The Viper mini, or any dedicated machine keeps consistency and control. SO, yes on those factors it does what it's advertised to do.
Yea. I adjusted it back to what the viper rep or who ever it was recommended. I still think it’s laying down to much and I understand it can be adjusted but all of these variables just complicate something that i do simply by picking up my spray gun and spraying. It’s just to much. That my opinion. I wanna spend time printing on the dtg. This creates an entire long added layer of steps. Even when it’s set up and spraying and dialed in the wagner spray gun still gets the job done easier and faster.
@@adubbproductions Agh, well a correction on the mistakes made in that video would have been nice to note at least. Also, speaking to time savings, how much time do you save when you have a perfectly pretreated tee, against one that is over or under poretreated?? It takes WAY longer to reprint a tee then it does to PT them.
Adjusting it faster lays down less, and running it 100% speed will only lay down 10 grams on the 14" spray with, which is rather minimal. Typical setting for the PT your using would be around 55/60. Then just leave it there, no need to adjust that again unless you want too or are using lots of different tees on the same run. The fact that you can leave the PT in a hand sprayer just goes to show that they are overpowered and use too large of a nozzle for PT. They are designed for paint which has a thicker consistency. The hand sprayer will eventually get gummed up and corroded, then you have to buy a new one; and yes it is cheap, but it's still a repeated expense. Removing the PT from the filter and nozzle just ensures your investment.
The raw facts are that if you can lock in every step of your process better, the more control you have on the results. There is a reason why operations that move decent volume regularly DO NOT use a hand sprayer, way to many variables that are not repeatable.
The hand sprayer works for you as you have lots of time vested to it. Most end users will have a very difficult time hand spraying. Your prints do look great, and once you get the process locked in, the results speak for themselves! It's really hard to teach that and that is proven by how many people have issues with doing it that way. With a machine you can teach anyone to lay down the right amount of PT perfectly each time.
All this explaining is exactly why it’s to much. Shouldn’t be this difficult.
Can we get some links for that heatpress d top cover and bottom cover you spoke on? Thanks in advance
thanks man, roller is a great idea, ! a lot of people say its very messy, is that true? that spray goes everywhere, walls, floor, etc...
It does spray a mist just like any liquid except it sticky. So yes it true but its not that bad.
What kind of Wagner is that? I don't see a link and noticed a handful of different ones on amazon.
What do you put in the pretreatment spray? I mean the liquid?
Could you compare or check out the Wagner vs. a 360 sprayer it may surprise you. Thank you for your videos.
I don’t think that 360 sprayer would be good for this. Looking at the videos it seems like the 360’s purpose is covering more area and pretreating needs to cover a specific area.
Hello, friend.
Can I buy Viper Mini?
Yes.
What kind of paper is the brown paper you put on top of the shirt before pressing.
That's called a thermo heat sheet
How do you apply your print ?
Hi, great video. Can you pretreat shirts and use them weeks later? If I wanted to do a bunch of shirts and fold them for later use, would that work?
Yes. I’ve pretreated shirts and used them months later.
@@adubbproductions Awesome. Ty.
I was thinking when doing the pretreatment do you have to close the press all the way down? If the press is set to a high enough temperature do you think if you hover over the shirt it would prevent the square from showing up ?
Yes it would and after you print you can hover also. Totally skip pressing all together. I’ve done that as well. I like the idea of pressing because I feel like it pushes the ink into the fabric and it gives a different smooth finish. You can do it either way.
Another thing is why not just pretreat all your shirts in advance. Example you have 20 shirts , then take one day just only doing pretreatment then the next day just press the shirts. You can easily lay 4 shirts along a long table and spray them all at once. If you have two heat press , you can press two at a time .. that's just what I do!
Yup. I do that sometimes.
Is it water in the bottle?
Yes
@@adubbproductions thank you
What is the white thing on the top of your heat press? Is that a pad to reduce pressure?
It’s a platen protector to make sure no residue gets stuck on my platen while pressing. Heat transfer warehouse sells them. Just search platen protector. Here is my affiliate link.
heattransfer.ositracker.com/159730/11767/url_15370
What’s the name of the white roller you’re using and where can i buy it?
I got it from Home Depot. It’s a foam roller.
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Man that Viper is a huge pain in the ass and it’s what?!?! $1400?!?!
Hell nah lol
That $50 wagner sprayer works just fine thanks for this knowledge!
I agree.
I just got a pretreat machine for $700 delivered. Looks like I would’ve been fine with the Wagner sprayer
Is the $700 mechine good ?
Lot of work for one shirt
True indeed. That’s why I need the pretreat method that makes the process as fast as possible.
That viper is way too much