Improve Your Recoil With This Trick
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2022
- A simple trick that will help improve your recoil control. This will help control the recoil of budget Tarkov guns. Anyone can do this!
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TLDR: Know when to go full auto, and when to swap to tapping. Everything is personal preference and everything is situation dependant.
Nailed it!
Yeah I personally really like tap-firing from mid to long range, and just switch to full auto if I'm within barrel-stuffing range.
Same!
That’s what I’ve started doing and it’s been very effective. Now I can’t panic spray and have to consciously click each shot.
Great analysis, thank you. I really noticed that pacing shots more pays off with semi auto weapons too. Often I'm finding I kill PMCs when I fire slower with weapons like that because the accuracy is so much higher. It's easy to panic and think more bullets faster = win, but if you're hitting areas like the arms in a close fight because you're shooting too fast it's worse than taking time to line up on Thorax/Head.
Thanks man! Yeah, agreed with slowing it down a bit helps a lot for me too. I feel more efficient with my shots!
Fun fact for all of you next wipe in case you didn't know, recoil number...means very little in the gun. Each style of gun has its own recoil pattern that can lead to better recoil, even with a higher number. Examples are the VPO / AK 7.62 line has its own recoil pattern, but if you use a stock SKS, you can achieve a better grouping than a modded VPO, go ahead and test this on a wide open map like Interchange. You will have a much higher first shot recoil on the SKS but if you can account for that, even stock its a small grouping, honestly a busted level of horizontal recoil, like shooting 100+ yards = a horizontal difference of a few feet maybe. Another example is the 9mm where guns like the Saiga / Pp-19 have the same recoil pattern, but the Stm-9 is substantially better recoil, despite having worse stats. Wipe is coming up, so I suggest going onto maps with an AK & SKS as well as a PP-19 & STM 9 and compare, I've taken many clips with modded vs unmodded of each version and the differences between guns with the same stats is night and day.
All of these tests I've done are spamming the trigger as fast as possible, not slow shooting. I kept the same ammo type and number in each magazine to prevent as much difference as possible.
This was a great video and you really showed everyone in the comments last video what was up haha. I was under the impression tap firing did little or nothing, but these are big differences so I will definitely be changing up my playstyle a little bit. Thanks again
As much as I've been tap firing for a while now, I wasnt too sure either up until I did these tests. So it was a healthy debate nonetheless! Glad you enjoyed this man, thank you!
I just wanted to thank you for such a great video and wonderful advice, I was on a long losing streak but as soon as I tried this I was able to dominate doors (although its always the last team mate that gets you). I have started taking the 7.62 vpo seriously and by abandoning spraying with low level guns i have been clicking on head like there is no tomorrow, You just saved my late start to wipe.
I'm happy to hear this! That's awesome. Goodluck with the wipe man! 🙏
I would agree tap firing is very nice and helps me a lot too. Also, IRL which EFT tries to simulate full auto fire is not used much unless you provide cover fire or operate LMG.
I moved from full auto tapping to semi-auto since I feel I keep on target better plus it saves ammo. I agree with you that full auto chews through the ammo so fast that I feel I get empty before doing enough damage
Yes! The "shots on target" is what gets us going despite the lack of DPS. Glad this worked out for you!
I’ve heard you mention tap fire in your more recent videos and streams, this video was cool to watch though to see the direct comparison! Since hearing you first start saying this, I’ve been using most ARs on semi auto and switching to full auto when enemies are close enough to comfortably point fire.
For me, I feel like tap firing makes me feel more in control of my weapon rather than my weapon controlling me. I conserve ammo in fights way better and often times win fights just because my opponent has to reload before I do. Great tips as always!
Glad you found this video! Yeah, I agree that it definitely makes it feel like you're more in control.
love this style of vid, clear explanations. no bullshit, thank you!
Happy to hear this!
love your videos man i am a huge fan of tap fire in both full and semi auto. started it about 2 wipes ago and things have been much better since
Glad you enjoy them man, thank you! Awesome to hear too that tap firing has been working out for you 🙏
For me, bursting did better result. While I do tap-firing for medium-to-long distances, for medium-to-short distances I have more success with bursting 3-4 rounds. Probably because my setup works better for bursting (M4 user with medium amount of mods) than tap-firing. BUT I do use AK74 when lootrunning and I found the gun to be much better for tap-firing than my M4 and I use tap-firing more often than not with my AK74.
I guess it depends on what weapon - just as you've mentioned in the video. And also when situational needs arise, of course. Thanks for the tips btw!
Good to hear this insight. I was just discussing burst firing with a friend while making this video, and was wondering if anyone does it. Thanks for checking out the video!
@@RamenStyle in every game i have played I've been using semi auto(squad, arma, and often battlefield) tarkov is the first game where i felt like full auto was needed to kill, but I couldn't handle the full auto well enough to be effective. Also tried burst, but i feel like the initial kick starts, and resets by the time you burst the next rounda. So all burst rounds i feel like it has got a lot more kick than just full auto. I might be wrong tho
@@NothingWorks4me With the current way of implementation burst fire is not recommendable. You are on the right track 👍
I wish they would change that recoil behavior to make the weapon handling more realistic.
@@RamenStyle in most games i do like burst fire, and i noticed the g36 has the option, which is pretty rare in tarkov. I think their recoil system just makes it really bad unfortunately
"Tap fire extends the fight without reloading keeping me in the fight longer" I couldent agree with this more! I have won so many fights against full auto Andy's because they blew thier load early and had to mag change fighting at a door. (Granted I'm the same guy who runs the .45 vector in 2 round burst mode cause then I can click 15 times per mag....)
Glad you resonate with this! Tap firing has saved me a lot.
I never tried tap firing, I usually tap fire from medium to long ranges and burst down in cqb(10-15m); but the g36 tap firing got me interested.
I guess youre right that it is purely situational.
Nice vid. I think this is really helpful for folks who haven't thought about it before. Great content, thanks!
Thanks Gareth!
Your videos have helped me a lot. I still like the 153 but when I’m not running the yeet canon my aim is getting better. And like you said in a previous video slowing down helps a lot.
This is awesome to hear man! Glad things are working out 🙏
Hey Ramen, been watching some of ur videos, and its amasing to see other ppl play like me, and having succes while doing so. we have the exact same playstyle and way of tactical thinking lol
Hey man! Awesome to hear dude. Always cool to meet people who approach Tarkov in the same way. Cheers man!
Tip fire high kickers. Plus full auto empties mag to quick reloading mid fight can be death.
Tap fire in to full auto is the best combo for me 3tap burst and then commit to full auto of course if the distance is calling for it it's the best tip a friend gave me
heres a small trick that works for whatever reason. in you just hold fire. you're guns barrel has that huge initial recoil jump that sends it it. well if you fire 1 or two rounds then hold down fire, your guns muzzle will barely climb adn will just move side to side.
I took your advice a while back and been doing way better and I've played for a couple years now.
Glad to hear this man! 🙏
Tap firing is lowering the RPM of the initial rounds giving the gun more time to reset before the next round. If you continually shooting without letting this reset completely finish the auto recoil adjustments will still kick in.
Would be interesting to see a test of tap firing vs full auto *with* mouse compensation
Thank you for this. I was wondering if what was said about first shot recoil was true. I will probably never be a chad since I have a slower play method and suffer of gear fear and rapid post deployment death due to bad situational awareness. 😁👍 Keep it up my dude.
Post deployment deaths will get much less as you gain more hours and experience in the game 🙌
And thank you!
Map knowledge is key to dying less. Knowing where other pmcs will spawn or where the most fought over areas are will help u alot.
First shot recoil is true. Looks at any gun the jump between 1st and second /third shot is the most. You can see this at the hideout shooting range and play around with it. After that it calms down whether bursting or full auto. But the hideout shooting range or offline raid at a wall or something gives you the best idea . And you can play around with varying the speed of your shots between full auto and single shot till you can find that sweet spot for you. Essentially you wanna shoot as fast as you can while maintaining decent accuracy
i dont know if this is current but this really helped me out man!
Thank you for another great video 🍝
Thanks for watching!
Found thiss out on my own but you are right.
You should check out gigabeefs new video on tap-auto. It looks like a good way to get the recoil mitigation you're showing while still getting as much DPS as possible.
Just saw it, very interesting stuff! Thanks for sharing.
this is actually a good idea i find my self full auto AKM and my shots dont hit and ive been left confused on what im doing wrong. im going to give this method a shot and will see where it gets me.
I feel you on this. I'm an AK lover and always have one ready to go. Early to mid wipe, I'm almost always tapping with it. Let me know how it goes!
@@RamenStyle same here and definitely I'll let you know after today! Hope you have an awesome day of raids today!
@@RamenStyle so far it has actually made a HUGE difference, I have hit a lot more shots and killing them faster as well. So far so good!
The only 2 flaws I see to tap fire is possibly lower dps opportunity, and that your shots may be slightly effected when mouse clicking. I do think it helps with recoil control though.
Yes true! DPS definitely drops.
When you tap fire, does the firing mode still on auto or single fire?
Just taaap it in...tap tap taparoo!
This Happy Gilmore reference made me so happy. Thank you. Hahahaha
@@RamenStyle and thank you for doing this video! Always wasn't sure if tap firing was worth it or not for these types of weapons.
get off of me! whatta doing!? lmao love happy gilmore
i use mcx with 52 recoil on full-auto and i have no problems in contorolling recoil
also it depends on weapon and firerate and how much you use 1 gun and is it always the same (attachments)
Have you noticed any difference between tap firing on full auto and semi other than sometimes shooting more shots on faster weapons? I've heard that on semi the reset time for your recoil might be faster and accuracy of the first shot is better, but never heard confirmation on that. Would be nice knowing if that's the case.
No difference between full auto and semi in terms of recoil/accuracy. This was something I tested as well but didnt include in the video
i'm surprised I'm not the only one who does that lol friends make fun of my bad recoil, but I just say "I'll tap fire it"
if ur tapping at a lower firerate ur recoil is obviously gonna be less. your solution could also be just running a lower rpm gun like an ak101 for 556 which most of the time is way cheaper too. ur recoil is lower but the damage output is way down
I really don't understand how you achieve that effect. If I try to tap fire the gun just jump around like crazy because every time I press the trigger, the gun uses the first shot recoil.
I like you and your content because I feel you're more of the common man streamer / youtuber
Appreciate this!
We’ll tap firing is jus lowering the fire rate I guess so it would make it more accurate
So wait is there a difference between full auto tap fire and just spamming on semi auto?
hey man, love your videos. Just have a small sugestion, at the end of your videos you ussualy talk about another video that you made, like in the 4:37 mark, but the video ends too soon and i dont have enough time to click on it, so it would be good if the video keept rooling for a few more seconds just with the music so we have enough time to click on it, other then that its all great man, keep it up :)
Appreciate this insight man, this is huge help. Thank you!
So should I aim foot level and then go full auto?
Klean *did a video today about semi having less recoil. So would it be better than auto tap firing?
Holy crap that's awesome! I'm glad he's doing the same. So in this video, I mentioned that tapping in full auto and semi are the same EXCEPT for guns with around 800 RPM and more. Because tapping a fast shooting gun in full auto will burst a few bullets in one click, which you dont want :)
im gonna say that the first tests at the start were kinda hard to follow becouse the iron sights were blocking the view you cold've used some sort of a red dot or something to make it easier to see
I have bad tendency of mag dumping, tap works for me
So does the gun have to be in full auto for tap firing to be effective, or can you just switch it to single fire to help with ammo conservation?
So basically having it in full auto or semi is the same thing - except for guns that shoot at around 800 RPM or more since a single click might register 2-3 shots.
So yes, you can leave it on single :) I just like leaving it on full auto for more versatility and less thinking about my fire mode on the fly
@@RamenStyle So from now on im keeping all my guns on single 😎
@@azdtdevin Don't get caught in close range lol, they will ge 2-3 shots off before you get 2
My main doubt is where should i aim when not using meta guns, 'cause i try to aim no the head, but when you start shooting, it goes up. Do you guys have any advice?
Great question. What I like to do:
If I'm confident I can hit the head within the first shot, I'm lining up for the head itself. This is best case scenario where I have the perfect angle and whatnot.
But, I'll pre-aim torso if I'm going straight for a tap fire mag dump anticipating the kick.
Are you able to give your sensitivity settings? ADS and non-ADS ?
ADS sens 0.23 non-ADS 0.30
I used to have both on 0.23 but recently put my non-ADS sens up to check my corners better
i use a combination of the two, try tapping the first three shots, then full auto
Same, tapping and then transitioning to full is a great way to not have that insane kick the first few shots.
I really recommend getting the mp7a2. It's not that expensive and the ammo for it is cheap as hell too (ofc the AP is more expensive). It packs a punch, easy to get head shots with and its recoil is basically non existent, it has a very small kick upwards but with a simple push down of the mouse you get perfect precision on your target. I'm honestly surprised how not so many people are running the mp7a2, meta bias I guess...
I run MP7A1 with no rear sight and subsonic sx. It slaps.
FUCKING STUPENDOUS. ive no idea how many times over the past 2 godamned years. everyone told me to mag dump or semi auto. fo rthe reasons you said. godamnit am i glad to see some proof of the pudding. THANK YOU again my good sir. whatta dope asf video.
Thanks man, means a lot!
I need your graphics settings 😭
- Basics and Fundamental FPS understanding budies !
The wapeon and his ANIMATION (recoil) has to be dissociate with the "AIM" / "Crossair"
Don't forget in 90% of the FPS you character / wapeon is stack on an other layer and rendered separately.
gl&hf
OR, Nikita could apply real-world recoil and not have such absurd jumps in the initial few shots, which is what burst firing counters. He has literally been on gun ranges firing these guns for research, showing even he himself can control the recoil easily, then writes the code for the guns to jump so high on the first few shots like they're made of paper. All so they can implement the most pointless, boring, abusive "RPG skills" that progress. A civilian game developer can control weapon recoil better than the PMCs, supposedly trained military personnel, in this game. It makes no sense and makes Tarkov's gunplay the worst in gaming, as the recoil is...unpredictable and uncontrollable. Fights are won on luck and bullet type, not skill. Instead we now have a game where your character controls the recoil and does a piss poor job of doing it on the first few shots, promoting a fullauto meta.
@@TrTriTrippin Dude, he is right and you know it. These recoil make sense of you're hip firing or you dont have a buttstock. I've fired a lot of the weapons that we have in game and if you know how to control the recoil, which every PMC should know, your rapid fire grouping should be no bigger than 6MOA at 50 to 100 yards. Your grouping should be 1 to 2moa at 100 or more if you're single tapping.
I feel like a lot of people forget that in actual combat you never expect to pull the trigger unlike on a controlled environment where you're always anticipating the recoil. You find yourself in a fight and when you're already aware that you're mag dumping you start controlling. On the range experience is extremely different than being in an actual gunfight, it doesn't even matter if you're fully aware you'll end up pulling the trigger that day or that hour, you'll always react then understand. Also recoil isn't hard to control at all in tarkov, play other games that have recoil, you're using a mouse, aim lol.
try to tap first 3 shots quickly then auto , the recoil is way lower like that than normal auto
I don't fully understand, do you tap fire while in full Auto?
You can if you wanna keep it on full auto, but same result as semi auto. I just wanted to show that tap firing in full auto works too if you just wanna keep your fire mode on full auto while running around
AZN!
Do you have a discord server?
dont' pack mags just bring more imo, that's what I've been doing these days, 30 mags aren't worth much so drop them when empty and move on.
Unless its full of PS GZT, that fucker 145R per round.
@@westwing23 is that the 7.62x54R round ? if so i don’t think it’s all that good anymore just cos they nerfed it to not 1 shot chest anymore
@@judah142 nah its the 7.62x39. I might have the wrong name, these russian ammo name confuse the fuck out of me and im at work at the moment.
Its the "cheaper" version of BP 7.62x39 and its 145r from prapor. I thought it was dirt cheap and almost paid 40,000rubles for ammo.
@@westwing23 That is dirt cheap
Some of us actually use good ammo
Does not matter how I shoot in Tarkov, I can't hit a wall in front of me without at least dumping half my ammo into the tree behind me. My advise when I shoot you, stop, slow down. Take a moment to consider how your going to kill me. And please hurry up and stop teasing me!
"Improve your recoil with this trick" *turns on 5 cheats*
What a ton of people in the youtube comments were just talking out of their ass with nothing to back them up and testing reveals that reality is the opposite of what they stated?
Crazy
tap fire it is
🤝
It only makes sense on like ash 12
Gooooood shit as always ramen
Thanks man!
Your losing the firerate with tap though, id say if your within that range full auto, outside just semi auto tap
adar users knows the best))))
True true lol
A SIMPLE TRICK TO PLAY CRAB
Recoil is so ridiculously unrealistic in eft it's actually sickening...
It's because you shoot slower so obviously the weapon doesn't kick up as often duh
Not as obvious because of the first shot theory
Just crouch in the fight where possible. Always
you are firing slower so yes less recoil.
Yep! But it's super confusing at first because of the "first shot" theory. So had to make sure :)
imagine inventing a new word for semi-auto
the fuck
Damn someone's having a bad day over a word. Lmao
Nonetheless, I wanted to differentiate the fire mode from the actual act of tap firing.
Also, you need a hug bro
Solution: Use a semi-auto.
Tap firing doesn't actually work tho . It's been proven many times over because of the way the recoil system works .
The issue in this game are the PMC'S doing automatic recoil control. If they would simply remove this "feature" we as players could simply do it on our own.
@@TrTriTrippin whats not accurate? the game does have automatic recoil control. its tied to the recoil control skill. its like one of the most controversial features because its ass. its even in the video, the gun pulling down the longer he sprays is not him controlling the recoil, its the automatic recoil control kicking in.
I am the definition of cheapskate
I know you have heard this already, but for those who haven't, tapping can actually be detrimental in some cases. Your gun will kick the most when initially firing, and then your character will begin to control the recoil after the first few shots.
Edit: I just got further into the video, and you brought it up. Cool cool
ur play style is funny but i comeback watching you so....
100 125 150k is the meta gun price. Some of the meta guns are 200k or 250k like meta m4 or mutant the new Ak is like 150-200. Tap fire is a bad practice if you run the mp7 lmao the gun is less then 150k with ammo and mags and you out preform all of your tap fire experiments also ash 12 is amazing with full auto, ash 12 is like 120k
Okay, this comment seems to come from someone who didnt finish watching the video.
I never said tap fire is better. I'm assuming you didnt finish the video. I straight up said you shouldnt tap fire all the time, and it's not better than full auto necessarily. I also mentioned that tap firing is case to case basis. Never said you should be tap firing an MP7. At the end of the video, I said I hold down the trigger on close to zero recoil guns like most SMGs in this video. The MP7 is an SMG. I wouldn't tap fire that gun.
Tap firing is NOT bad practice. Just because you're insane at full autoing all guns in Tarkov, doesnt mean everyone else is :) some of us need handicaps brotha.
Tap fire seems like a newbie stray to controlling recoil i say always full auto only tap if you are sniping. Also point firing is good
You must be under 20 years old. Or at least under 25. And I mean that in a good, compliment way. Us boomers need a new way to keep up with you godly gamer youngins. I have accepted I'm not as good as someone like you who can control full auto in this game with every gun. And this video is for other people out there like me 👍
@@RamenStyle theirs one gun that you haven't tried man, MP7A2 Suppressor + Subsonic its a laser beam for 100-150k you 100% can keep up with an mp7a2 ive been using it the entire wipe basically and it does wonders. also double Zenit Klesch-2U tactical flashlight is over powered i was using the double flashlight for like 5 raids in a row, no one could see me. SMG is the full auto meta for those who cannot afford the 200-300k price tag of rifle full auto.
I feel like you watched only halfway til the video then commented.
I mentioned that I'll hold down the trigger on any SMG. MP7 included. Never said tap firing is better than full auto, I mentioned it being a case to case basis. I also mentioned to hold down the trigger on any close to zero recoil guns.
I was just having fun about how expensive meta can be and it seems to be the only takeaway you got from this video lol
This is just dumb, you have just as much recoil as full auto it just climbs less in the beginning
Nope
Tarkov is supposed to be realistic why is burst fire wich is what real soldiers use totally useless
its bullshit. specially if you use MP's.
Ok but wtf is an MP
@@RamenStyle machine pistol?
I mentioned in this video I wouldn't be tap firing anything close to zero recoil, especially SMGs. You might've missed that.
@@RamenStyle that might be. I mean you are not wrong with you message, but I don't think it's wise to tap the enemy's on mid range, rather than full spray. If you have a little window of time to kill someone, your goal is to shoot so many bullets as you can and if the recoil stops on the vertical, that it doesn't matter.
The video just ends lol 😂
Thanks for making it to the end 😉