PMDG 737 RNAV/GNSS Approach Tutorial by a Real 737 Pilot
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- Опубліковано 13 бер 2017
- Join me in the hold at SORIN, the IAF for RNAV/GNSS RW34 into Dublin (EIDW/DUB) as I talk you through how to fly an RNAV Approach using my companies operating procedures.
This tutorial contains some basic information about RNAV/GNSS Approaches. I’ve provided a link to Eurocontrol where you can find a very handy two-page PDF factsheet explain some of the theory/legality behind these types of Approaches.
www.eurocontrol.int/sites/def...
As I always stress my tutorials contain one way of operating this brilliant aircraft. Some operators and tutorials might show you a different procedure or setup!
Any questions feel free to ask!
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All guidance in my tutorials are based on operating procedures from a real operator, I have almost 4000 hours on the 737-800 (The real one) and I'm also a full-time Instructor working in a full motion Level D simulator.
The aim of this channel is to provide realistic, informative and useful information to help you enhance your flight simulation experience by following me apply real world operating procedures in the PMDG NGX.
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This is still an awesome tutorial. I refer back to these all the time. You are the only resource needed to have an absolute blast flying on my sim!
Fab tutorial, as are your others. Thx for producing these....really high quality, informative and helpful.
Pls keep them coming!
Thanks for your kind comment Chris. Expect plenty more in the future!
Fantastic! Probably the best, most informative and most thorough 737 tutorials currently available on UA-cam
Thanks a lot Russell! FD2S
I have recently returned to flight simming after a long hiatus. It's been quite an experience. I found your tutorials thorough, fast paced and reflective of the frenetic work that must go through the Captain's and F/O's mind during certain portions of the flight. I look forward to watching more of your content as I "get back up to snuff" on my flight simming skills. Thank you.
Immensely helpful! I was flying into Poland, and only in cruise did I notice that I will have to fly an RNAV approach... That saved me. Cheers!
After 4 months I am back to this excellent video. That are many UA-cam videos on RNAV approaches, but very few did it right. Of course, this is one of the maybe two or three videos did it professionally. I found in most RNAV videos, the pilots didn't check or set RNP, didn't set MCP altitude to DA and then with 300 feet of that bug it up to the missed approach altitude, and didn't cycle the FD buttons for guidance in case of going around. So, thumbs up once again to the caption flightdeck2sim!
Thanks Wotao,
I can assure you this is exactly what is taught and applied as accurately as possible!
All the best!
FD2S.
I was struggling so much with RNAV but you’ve made it so clear and just landed without issues
Literally can't get enough of these tutorials . Thank you so much 😀
Thanks Chris! Will hopefully have some more soon!
FD2S
Your videos are absolutely amazing. I recently lost my medical and have always love flying so I was quite heartbroken when I realized I’d never get farther than a Cessna and my PPL. I’ve always enjoyed fsx but since my medical got pulled I’ve really started putting a lot of effort into it with learning procedures on my complex aircraft and even joined Southwest virtual.
Hi hittman2005,
Really sorry to hear this, I'm really glad my tutorials help to enhance your sim experience. The guidance provided is exactly how we operate the aircraft here and how it's taught during the Type Rating!
All the best!
FD2S
Best tutorial ever!
Flew an RNAV approach for the first time a month or so ago in FSX. Some quick Googling explained it to me, and executed the approach successfully, but wish I had seen this video first! Tnx for another informative video!
Cheers Douglas! It's just how we do it in our operator, there are other ways of flying this sort of this approach!
that's beautiful to see how you do ... congratulations
Great video! I have 90 mins in a 737 Fixed Flight Simulator - can't wait!
I just click like before you even start.. because I know it's going to be great!
Thanks a lot ClearedToLand7
FD2S
Cheers for the video. Was confused on how it worked and its simpler than i thought! Thanks so much.
Simply splending! Urgently have to reactivate my PMDG after nearly 10 Years of absence.
Come to XP11 and the ZIBO MOD, it's free!
FD2S
Looked this up because I happened to be landing on the exact same runway and airport on VATSIM. Of all the airports, how lucky!
Awesome tutorial! This is just one of the hidden gems of youtube, thanks!
Thanks Speedbrake, glad you enjoyed it!
FD2S
"Close the thrust levers, hold the attitude. "
i love the way you say this. It's been one of my favourite mottos and feels like im addicted to it. I really wonder that when i become a pilot in the near future, what would happen if i say this during my captain flares the airplane for touchdown. Probably i'd get slapped right in the face. Lol
you will be the most popular co-pilot in the company for sure lmao
GREAT! I shall use often! Thank you!
Loving these tutorials - can't believe the amount of stuff you carry in your head 8) keep em coming please!
Hi Trevor, thanks a lot!
FD2S.
flightdeck2sim
The flows in between the various checklists are especially interesting - do you know of any good sites where these are documented? If not I'll just keep pressing repeat on your tutorials until I learn them 8)
I don't i'm afraid Trevor. Every operator will do this slightly differently but the objective is still the same. I'm showing you exactly what we do at my current outfit.
They'll be plenty of content in time and you'll begin to see similarities!
FD2S.
flightdeck2sim
No probs 8) I think I'm picking up stuff already especially the importance of cross referencing the FMC with MCP on a regular basis - you're background means you bring a whole new level of detail to flight sim tutorials which is brilliant - thanks again 8)
Just love your videos , so enjoyable to watch, trying to suck in as much of you teaching as possible to use on my fsx setup Thank you .
Thanks a lot Bravo Bravo and welcome!
FD2S
Perfect captain. Thank you so much.
Ooh! This one was great. That van made my day! 😂😂 Superb tutorial as usual.
I'd dare say he lost his job!
FD2S
I was able to do this today , thanks to you.
Awesome!
FD2S
Very useful and informative! Thank you
Well done!
@flightdeck2sim - These tutorials are just amazing. I'm so happy I found your channel. I was training to become a real world pilot when my medical was not approved, so simming the 737 is the closest I'll get to flying the real thing. However, thanks to your tutorials, I'm able to get that feeling of accomplishment still by learning the proper flows and procedures for this amazing aircraft. Thank you so much!
Steve, thank you so much buddy.
I can see you're still flying which is great to see and I'm very sorry to hear about your medical. I'd be doing the exact the same thing in your situation. I'm glad my tutorials are of value, I can assure you I'm giving as much effort with my tutorials as I do instructing the Type Rating and I'm using the identical flows and procedures used when I fly the real tin can for real!
Feel free to ask any Q's about the 737 or commercial operations at any time.
Fly safe!
FD2S
Thank you for producing these tutorials they are so informative.
I'm an old time simmer , started on a zx81 with no audio . Now living the dream in a PMDG NGX
I treated my self to 2 hours in a fixed 737 simulator at Cambridge Airport. Wanted a cold and dark experience. I was very impressed at how close the PMDG felt in comparison to the SImulator.
Want to thank you for all your hard work
+Jonathan Lambert thanks a lot buddy! I started off with FS 2002 and was hooked then on in! Very fortunate to now fly the tin can for a living and just retuning a favour to the community.
PMDG have a great product which is very close to the real aircraft and there are some great commercial simulators around in the U.K!
I'm teaming up with virtualflightexperience to use their simulator and to offer some tuition. My channel in time will provide everything you need/want to know about operating the 737.
All the best!
FD2S
thx so much for making these videos! learnt so much :)
TomJhPage thanks Tom!
Thank you vert much!
Excellent video - from a former Ryanair Capt, now with a UK 737 operator. One quick q - as it’s a precision approach, we don’t recycle the FD’s as they are continuing to provide accurate guidance below minima, same as an ILS, and will provide missed approach guidance once TOGA is pressed, but not sure of your current operators procedures now - if that has changed there? Good work, very informative for students coming through, or those looking to brush up.
Nice tutorial bud. At about 12:40 the reason why VNav gave out when you set missed approach is; because you need to be at least 1000ft above field elevation to set MAA or else it will level off. Your field elevation is 202 ft which means you should set MAA at 1202 ft but you set it at 1260 there about. The sim was actually spot on. To be on a safe side, just set MAA at 300 ft above MDA. Otherwise great job. I’m a 737 pilot.😊
That van driver is gonna be fired!! haha
Haha, it did come as quite a surprise!
FD2S
He will bring the lunch for the pilots 🤣.
Very nice tutorial all at the exact reality, thank you for taking the time to instruct my corroded brain after not flying the aircraft for 5 months.
I’ve not flown in 3 months myself so it’s useful for me to replay! Take care!
FD2S
Good I’m not the only one. Roll on JULY!!
Great vid
Fantastic and very informative as usual, one question: for this type of approach rnav/gnss is it not necesssary to deselect navaids or only for RNP APCH? thank you
Very good tutorial and explanation of what is happenning and why.
May I sugest a normal/manual G/A procedure tutorial?
Thanks and keep it up! ;)
Thanks a lot for your feedback!
I already have a G/A tutorial which you mind find useful!
ua-cam.com/video/IAFLVXJ9rhM/v-deo.html
It's from a dual channel approach but the procedures is exactly the same, except the A/P is engaged!
Regards,
flightdeck2sim
Nice
Thanks for the video. Can you tell me please how to change and move around the view inside the virtual cockpit beside the space bar and back sapce ?
Right click on views and then left click on virtural cockpit on the FSX. 2006.
Hi.
First of all - thanks for plenty of nice videoes.
Why do you select SPD INTV (08:36) when in VNAV?
Should'nt it keep the speed restrictions by itself, when in VNAV and the speed restrictions are in the FMC already?
Hi T.E.
You're quite right, it will update but the A/T will only add thrust when below TGT speed. By selecting SPD INTV you have direct control over your target speed and the A/T will maintain exactly that speed.
FD2S
I usually go into idle reverse from full reverse by pressing F1, and then quickly press F2 twice (Just tap) and it'll go into idle reverse.
Hi Dale!
Noticed that works quite nicely! Idle Revers is usually the preferred choice unless there is an issue with Brake Cooling for a quick turnaround or if landing on a contaminated runway!
FD2S
Are hot brakes simulated with the PMDG (after an aborted T/O)?
Oernzen Yes, I believe, but I think they simulate it better on the 777 and 47
Am sure you keep "ARM" engaged in the real world? For TO/GA? Well in the PMDG FMC settings, go to simulation and I believe on the last page you can change the auto throttle over-ride system; from "NEVER" to "WHEN AUTO THROTTLE IS ARMED", this allows you to have full controls of throttles yet allow the system to still be in the "ARM" position. Hope that's a tip to help! But, for all I know they might un-arm it IRL, who knows, but you haha :P
Do we ever use the APP button for non precusion approaches ?
One more question, are you required do disable navaids updating in fmc nav settings when shooting RNAV? Like disable VOR update for example? Thanks in advance!
If the NAVAIDS is NOTAM U/S then yes otherwise it's no problem.
FD2S
Whats the difference between the RNAV Approach and the Non-Precision Approach? Thanks you so much!
Thanks for your time, really appreciate. Really great video.
Thanks a lot Gustavo 👍🏼
FD2S
Amazing channel, congrats!!! Can you tell us how close the PMDG 737 is to its real life counterpart when it comes to landing? The technique, the speed, flare and touchdown?
Hi Eduardo, thanks and welcome!
The PMDG does feel a little "floaty" but the 737 does have a natural tendency to float if you're flying just a few knots above your target speed on final when initiating the Flare.
If you start "checking" and your speed is VREF or less the real aircraft will land quite firmly. This will also be the case if you reduce thrust too early, especially landing with Flap 40 due to the significant increase in drag.
Small inputs using a computer joystick would involve a far larger input using the control column so the tendency to flare using flight sim is greater. Both in real life and in the sim if you initiate the CHECK, CLOSE, HOLD correctly and the correct height/speed it will settle quite nicely within the touchdown zone.
I don't know if you have seen but my "Landing Technique" tutorial goes into some detail!
ua-cam.com/video/6qnriMfIbEE/v-deo.html
Hope that helped to answer your query!
FD2S
Could you please show US how you set up the rnav approach on the fms from start to finish including the descent page
Hello Henry! Here is my most recent detailed tutorial explaining how to setup for an RNAV approach, cheers!
ua-cam.com/video/Sb7ZPFZnJQw/v-deo.html
FD2S
Hey, new to the channel but I wanted to say these videos are immensely helpful. I'm really impressed how close PMDG got the aircraft coming from a professional pilot. I was wondering also if you could explain the difference between certain RNAV approaches that use X, Y, and Z variants. Is this just an American thing or is it also found in Europe? Thanks!
Thanks ImagenNoReligion, glad you enjoy them and welcome to my channel 👍🏼 Yes for what is essentially an entertainment product it's a incredibly accurate rendition of the real aircraft. Good enough to accurately apply real world procedures.
You can find different letters (X,Y, Z etc) assigned not just to RNAV approaches to the same runway but to NPA's and ILS's as well. It's usually when there are different approaches to establish onto the procedure and/or different missed approach procedures based on different navigational aids.
FD2S
Hi :)
Thanks a lot for your videos, great work !
I have a question : What do the three figure on the right side of the yoke mean ? Here it's 2, 8 and 5
Hi 911gp, thanks!
The numbers have no practical purpose, it's just for tired pilot who want to remember a sequence of 3 numbers. Most put the numerical part of their callsign.
It's just a partially recessed whelk with the numbers 0-9!
FD2S
You're welcome, thanks for your answer :)
Cheers
when do you change rnp, during set up ? or during aproach checks or frisc ?
Coukd you please explain the conditions required to Recycle or not the F/Ds? Thanks a lot
Hi! Could you perform a RNAV approach for my home's airport MHTG TONCONTIN. I've tried really hard to perform the real life approach and would be really interested if you could upload a video landing at Toncontin.
Excuse me Sir; will you please make an UA-cam tutorial video about ideal flaps position selection in realtion to speed whether for Take off or Landing?
Hi Saed,
I have a lot of requests to go through but that is something I can look into doing in the future 👍🏼
FD2S
I have a few questions. Firstly, you do not use APP in this RNAV approach (as it was commented already), maybe this is the reason why the FMC was not in "approach logic" and you was unable to set MAA? Secondly, I read somewhere that flaps should be set one notch at a time and you set it directly from 15 to 40. What is the best (real life) practice? Maybe "one notch" rule applies only for retracting, not for extending? And last thing, what is FD recycle you do before landing? I haven't seen such routine in any other tutorial.
Your tutorials are really great! Thanks!
I admr0z!
With regards to arming APP on an RNAV approach this is for aircraft fitted with the IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation) mode, our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options.
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope). Flying IAN requires proper equipment (also licensing supposedly). It allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
Approach logic is independent of IAN approaches and is a function of the FMC. It activates when you're within 2nm of the first waypoint on the approach or less than 2000ft above the airfield elevation.
Secondly wherever you read that flaps should be set one notch at a time is not required. So long as you're below the max flap placard speed for each setting you can go straight to that flap setting. The same applies for retraction.
In real life on approach we usually go F1 - F5 - Gear Down F15 - F30. Sometimes if you're landing with F40 and close to your max landing weight you will likely have to use F25 and/or F30 as an intermediate setting to help reduce your airspeed. All G/A's go straight to FLAP 15 or FLAP 1 if single engine.
Recycling the F/D's on a NPA ensures you get the correct guidance when reaching the missed approach altitude in the event of a go around.
Good luck!
FD2S.
Hello Captain .. What about "App" mode usage. What benifit it adds to Rnav .. What conditions compel the pilot to go for "IAN" Instead of RNAV?
Hi Kk,
With regards to IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation), our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options and I know very little about it!
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope) after arming APP. Flying IAN requires proper equipment and approval and allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
FD2S
Hi FD2SIM, sorry this is an old video to post on but could you please explain how this approach would work if you were flying an aircraft with IAN equipped and would it make a difference and what annunciations you would get if using it. Thanks.
Hi Nerf
With regards to IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation), our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options and I know very little about it!
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope) after arming APP. Flying IAN requires additional equipment and approval and allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
FD2S
When would you perform an RNAV approach?
What about using APP button on MCP during RNAV approach?
Hi Squawk 737
You would use APP using IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation), our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options and I know very little about it!
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope) after arming APP. Flying IAN requires proper equipment and approval and allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
FD2S
Hi :) I have this question: why didn't you set minimums bug to MDA+40ft, like you did in non precision tutorial? Doesn't this rule apply to RNAV approach? Thanks in advance :)
Hi Konrad.
RNAV Approach to LNAV/VNAV minima is classed as an approach with approved vertical guidance so the minima is a DA so no need to add 40ft
FD2S
Thank you very much for quick answer. Greetings from Poland :)
I never saw a video see you using IAN. Why? Are there any disadvantages or is your aircraft not equipped with Integrated Approach Navigation? Greetings, TB500
HI how do you get curved path approachs
Hi. Been practising some approaches. If you notice the glide path angle is different in the FMC to the charts, is there a way of updating the FMC to show the correct angle. Keith
Hi KEITHGEE1000,
It is impossible to update the GP angle on a published approach, they should match the chart. If you were to fly an RNAV approach the tolerance is 0.1 degrees otherwise you'd have to fly something else (then report it!)
FD2S
flightdeck2sim great thanks. It was approaching Jersey. The charts showed a 3.0 degree GP, the FMC was 3.1 so within your range. All good!!
@flightdeck2sim Is there any rule (I realize it might be operator dependent) about when you can set the altitude on the MCP to the down to the minimums? Is it after the IAF, or within a thousand feet of level off, or no rule but there are best practices? I learned for myself practicing, you definitely can't wait until the FAF or until you're in VNAV ALT or you'll be immediately high on profile when it doesn't descend.
Must be gratifying to know this video helps so many, years on. I was in real trouble if ATC told me to fly anything other than an ILS before tutorials like these.
Good Evening. I have a question, how do you silence the A/T A/P annunciation after disconnection, other than pressing the annunciation flashing keys? do you have them slaved to a quick key command?
The A/T and A/P disconnect switch respectively only needs to be pushed once to disconnect the system.
A/P Disconnect - 1 push disengages A/P and sounds the A/P Disconnect Warning Horn and A/P P/RST red light to flash
2nd Push cancels horn and flashing red light.
A/T Disconnect - 1 push disengages A/T and A/T P/RST light will flash red. 2nd Push cancel flashing red light.
I have both commands assigned to buttons on my joystick!
Good Luck!
FD2S
Thank you!
Could you show us how to fly an DME ARC Approach? Thanks a lot. Boris 🇨🇭
Here you go!
ua-cam.com/video/ZVwNG7_fMis/v-deo.html
FD2S
Nice but what's the difference between r-nav approach and vor-loc approach?
Hi Mattia,
VOR & LOC are both in itself two different types of Approaches.
A VOR Approach uses just that, a VOR radial to fly towards the runway and then land.
A LOC Approach using the Localiser off an ILS to fly to the runway and then land.
These both rely on ground based navigational aids to be tuned and backed up to ensure we're descending on the correct profile (Even though on the 737 we use VNAV for both approaches which uses the Navigational Database to vertically fly the correct profile)
An RNAV/GNSS approach does not rely on ANY Ground Based Navigational Aids, you just use the Navigational Database in the FMC and monitor this using GPS.
Hope this helped answer your query!
Can you do a set up tour
Hi Flightsimmer101,
My latest Full Flight Tutorial goes through a setup, you might find that interesting!
ua-cam.com/video/UD-s5yXV13M/v-deo.html
FD2S.
Your video gave me great information. But how would you set up an RNAV approach using the PMDG 747? Or can someone that is familiar with the PMDG 747 that can point me in the right direction?
Hi underloard102,
Never flown the 747 but I would think the setup and approach is pretty similar.
FD2S
So what’s the difference between LNAV/VNAV approaches such as this, LPV and RNP approaches. To me RNP approaches on charts (Quito or Paro are good examples) allow the aircraft to fly through mountains following curves and has to be extremely accurate where as LNAV/VNAV is bunch of straight lines. And I guess these still can’t beat ILS when it’s extremely foggy
Hi Thomas,
LNAV/VNAV are just roll and pitch modes the aircraft use to fly an approach in the FMC, the FMC is still able to generate curved lines and radius to fix tracks and is extremely accurate, We use it to fly RNAV, VOR, NPA approaches at my outfit and can be just as accurate as an ILS!
FD2S
After all, why after installation MAA on the MCP aircraft deselect VNAV?
I'll bet a bug. Bug detection is largely based on how much you use a system in any software. Since ILS is the vast vast majority of what people do in this kind of plane, either in real life or especially in sims, then even fairly competent and knowledgeable beta testers might not encounter the exact circumstances that would lead to this bug.
RNAV logic probably has some hiccup in it in this particular PMDG plane.
You can safely ignore virtual traffic - it wont cause a crash. I often get a plane coming the other way!
Haha! I though I had turned it all off!
FD2S.
flightdeck2sim To avoid such things What i do is that I do contact the ATC (Default) and request for "Full Stop Landing" .. so, runway and taxi ways are always cleared for me .. never ever disturbance by any Moody traffic :) .. Also if "Traffic density" is kept high, ATC will ask you for Go around .. :)
Great tutorial. The FMC was programmed to fly at 180kts for INTOP, but it seems the bug stayed at the flaps up speed, which is 20kts higher, so you had to use the speed intervene button and bug it down there. Did this happen because of the flaps operation?
Also, what'll happen if you push the APP button on the final approach?
Hi Wotao
Had I been in VNAV PTH with the speed window closed the aircraft would've bugged the next flap placard speed automatically after extending flaps.
With the Speed Window open it should revert to VNAV SPD but because, as you correctly pointed out, the flaps are extended it stays in VNAV PTH allowing you to directly set the placard speed. It's your job to make sure you bug the appropriate speed (and any speed restrictions) but the important thing is that VNAV PTH is still engaged and following the Vertical Path which is required for this Approach.
I just Googled it. Push APP on an RNAV approach will activate the IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation) mode, which a virtual ILS. The PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope). Flying IAN requires proper equipment (also licensing supposedly). It allows you to use the LPV minimums.
From what I understand this is something to do with IAN Approaches and VANP (Vertical Actual Navigational Performance) I believe then you can use the APP mode to fly an RNAV Approach.
Our fleet are not fitted with this option (and I've deselected NPS scales within PMDG) so I can't really help you, we only use APP mode for an ILS Approach with my operator
Thank you for the super clear explanations!
So RNAV(GPS) approach AND RNP approach are both GPS Approaches bases on internal computation of aircraft and gps . But the difference is RNP needs On board performance monitoring and alerting system for more accuracy . Am I right? Please clarify?
Any tips on the LNAV aspect of RNAV 23R or L into Nice? Seems the last segment is visual only.
Hi Bald Eagle.
I've bot flown into Nice, it looks like the Runway direction is now 04/22 and not 05/23 (Magnetic Variation)
You're quite right, the last segment is fully visual. Looking at the chart for the existing RNAV procedure we would continue to the MAPt (Missed Approach Point which is D5.5 AZR) and continue the approach visually. We would to fly a track of 303 and descent to 1000ft (using V/S and HDG SEL) turn final and then disconnect A/P and A/T and recycle F/D's.
Good Luck!
FD2S.
Thanks for the reply FD2S. Just thought I would check with the Boss first :) I always choose the hardest approaches! Well, when I say choose I mean I just find myself there. 04 nice n easy, 22 a nightmare grrr
I can't find the RNAV approach in the navigraph charts, is it changed. I was hoping to fly this flight my self :-)
hi flightdeck2sim nice tutorial again...ı have question that is not related about rnav.... when exactly do the CRZ thrust mode change to the G/A thrust mode ( 08:34) ı mean what types of data effect to change the CRZ to G/A mode ???? thank you :)
Hi RAHMICAN,
The N1 Limit Reference on the Thrust Mode Display is normally calculated by the FMC
On an ILS G/A will annunciate after G/S Capture but for an NPA I'm not 100% sure of the exact trigger that causes the change from CRZ to G/A, probably configuration or routing to a WPT on the approach, I will try and find out!
FD2S
thank you for answer....yes you right about precision approach that GA will annunciate after g/s capture ...ı dont know either for NPA ı will continue to check in FCOM and FCTM ...or asking flight instructor.. ı ll let u know.
I am a 737 Flight Instructor so I should know!
FD2S
ı know it .because ı am askıng these questions to you :)
I get stuck on HOLD at the IAF, how do you continue to the next WPT?
Hi, i've tried to apply this exercice on Zibo mod on Xplane, but i dont see any holding point in the database for SORIN. is that possible or did i miss something? Thanks Capt.
Hi there! It should be unless it's not correctly coded in the FMC, if you select RNAV 34 it should come up as a transition.
FD2S
When will autopilot automatically disconnect on RNAV approach? Thanks!
It wont until you disconnect it!
FD2S
flightdeck2sim Thank you for the reply! Just tried it with PMDG737 at LOWI RNAV rwy 26 and it went to CWS mode at 10ft AGL, with 50ft Radio DA set.
Hi, I can't find any QNH on my forecast page while I descend, it's blank, What am I doing wrong?
Hi Mika, not sure. It should be under DES page and then you select FORECAST.
FD2S
That's what I'm doing but under QNH I have got only blank squares (I forgot to say I'm using Zibo Mod in XPlane11), in a RNAV approach that's problematic :( Where the FMC gets this information from?
Could you try GPS-B approach RW29 PAKT? Is impossible for me descend 3600 ft from ROZMO ( FAF) in 5 nm. Maybe I´m doing something wrong.
Hi RADASNTDR,
I don't have access to charts in the US, in time I'll make a playlist where people can request for a certain approach to be flown so people can see how I'd approach it! I've made a note of PAKT! Descending 3600ft in 5nm would be quite a challenge, have you interpreted the information correctly and what is the elevation!?
FD2S.
Ok. Thank you so much. Elev is 88 ft. You can find PAKT charts right here:
www.airnav.com/airport/PAKT
I just checked jepo chart and it says 6.5 degrees. Definitely to much for 737, i can't remember what the limit is but i think 4-5 degrees. That approach is flown with aircrafts approved for "steep approaches"
Piotr Kuler Yes, you´re right. I´ve watched some videos of Alaska Airlines 737 and the procedure to land seems to be directly from GIRTS to ROZMO over the water.
So with rnav approaches you don't press the app button so that it captures the glide slope? Is the app button only for ILS approaches?
Hi Matt,
With regards to arming APP on an RNAV approach this is for aircraft fitted with the IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation) mode, our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options.
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope) after arming APP. Flying IAN requires proper equipment and approval. It allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
FD2S.
Thank you
Whats a more realistic sector?? STN-TRS-BRI or STN-TRS-STN-BRI?
Hi Muhamed
Airlines operate all types of sectors, typically 2 or 4 sectors day and back to there home base on the 2nd and 4th sector
Eg. LHR-MAD-LHR-GVA-LHR
They can vary but this would be typical for a short haul airline
FD2S
nice landing beter
isnt 737 cat D categories for approach? 8:30
Very good. Now can you do that again more slowly? ;-)
Hi Peter,
This was just when I started out making videos! These tutorials are designed for experienced users of the NGX who want to take it to the next level. I can guarantee the information I’m providing is no different to what I’d give a cadet during their type rating. Based on similar feedback I have slowed things down for people who are new to the 737 which you might notice with my newer tutorials
FD2S
hii flightdeck again it is mee :)) what will happen if ı tune the ıls frequency while executing rnav/gnss approach.?? will the localizer and glide slope diamonds show and ıls override the rnav
approach ?
Hi there!
You can are APP using IAN (Integrated Approach Navigation), our fleet are not fitted with this option and I've deselected it in the PMDG options and I know very little about it!
I believe in this case the PFD will annunciate G/P (glide path) instead of G/S (glide slope) after arming APP. Flying IAN requires proper equipment and approval and allows you to use the LPV minimums on the chart.
FD2S
hmm oke thanks for that...
What about a VOR approach full procedure
You might find this useful!
ua-cam.com/video/qMYzXB6nb_I/v-deo.html
LNAV/VNAV are just roll and pitch modes the aircraft use to fly guidance programmed in the FMC. It's used in all phases of flight and can be used to fly an approach in the FMC, the FMC is still able to generate curved lines and radius to fix tracks and is extremely accurate, We use it to fly RNAV, VOR, NPA approaches at my outfit and can be just as accurate as an ILS!
FD2S
Hi, do you have standard sounds of 737 in this video? if not, pls give me a link
Hi there,
This is just the default NGX
FD2S
Why did you ricle the fd ?
It would be great if you could revisit this tutorial for the MSFS PMDG 737. The A320 has the ability to simulate the ILS G/S in the RNAV approach. Does the 737 has a similar feature?
If equipped with Integrated Approach Navigation (IAN). It's a carrier option.
@@rynovoski Can it be set in the MSFS PMDG 737 through the PMDG Options?
Using the FMC.
@@enriqueosuna I don’t have MSFS, but if FD2S can turn it off, I bet you can turn it on! 😅
@@rynovoski by any chance do you have the PMDG 737 on another sim platform?
Hello, how is PMDG's 737 in compare with real 737?
Very good! Systems are all very well modelled but it is quite dated now, it does well within the confines of an old desktop simulator like FSX.
FD2S
Nice video! Is the floating of the pmdg realistic?
Hi there!
I found the NGX used to float quite a bit, I use XP11 now due to it's superior flight model.
FD2S
flightdeck2sim thanks for your answer! I also plan to change from fsx to xp11. But i'm not so sure yet because i have all those addons for fsx already :/
EDXT Media fully understand, especially as you have a lot invested. If you decide to reinvest you’ll be please to know you don’t need to spend the earth. I just have the base game installed and everything else you currently see is free (ZIBO, plug-ins etc)
FD2S
What about an IAN approach?
Is rnp restrictive always 0.30?
For approach generally 0.3, different for other phases of flight
FD2S
What type of approach do you fly the most as a pilot? How often do you fly other kinds of approaches?
I can tell you exactly thanks to my electronic log book!
Over the last 5 years flying the -800 in Europe...
Approximately 90% - Precision Approach
686 ILS (Including CAT - 2/3) approaches and a total of just 2 Approaches with RNAV/GNSS with vertical guidance (Classed as a Precision Approach) like in this tutorial
Approximately 8% - Non Precision Approach
Includes VOR, NDB, LOC and RNAV to LNAV minima (Classed as a NPA)
Approximately 2% - Visual Approach
14 Visual Approaches and 6 Circle to Land
This is a fair estimate of Europe. Had I been based at an airport that doesn't have an ILS the statistics would obviously vary but there are only a few airports which have no precision approach available. ILS is still very much the norm but RNAV/GNSS Approaches are/will become far more common in time.
Hope you enjoyed the stats!
I now also would like to know. And while we're at it, what e-log are you using? Which on can you recommend?
Mmmm very interesting Must be difficult to keep familiar with such procedures if you dont do them often enough. So PMDG is good for you too :)
What e-log are you using?
Connor Pack i think ILS rnav vor are most common
What is CWS A and B autopilot?
Hi Oleg,
It's a function seldom used which turns the 737 into an Airbus. You essentially fly the autopilot using the control column, you set an attitude and/or bank angle and it holds it nicely without trimming. Will explain its use in a tutorial at some point!
FD2S
Is this approach much different from an" RNAV (RNP)" approach? For instance this one for Oslo: avinor.no/globalassets/_microsite/ais-portal/aip-sup/en_sup_a_2016_021_en.pdf
Also known as an RNAV Visual? (Yes I know the NGX doesn't do RF legs, but navigraph has interpolated the radiuses)
RNAV RNP can be flown the same way, it's a operator approval requirement to fly RNP with the required equipment (we only have GNSS)
FD2S
How do I know what to enter for the Rnp?
Hi Doesn’t Exist.
You can find a lot of information online which you can reference, I’m using our OPS Manual which contains all the PANS OPS criteria regarding RNP.
FD2S
Thankyou very much for the info on rnp and thanks for the tutorials, they are always helpful.
Doesn’t exist.