I forgot to mention in the video that I have a aftermarket rear shock (installed before I changed out the wheels) that already makes the bike sit up higher than stock.
@@matteot9561 It was worth it for me...I really like the ride and height better than the 14/12 setup. I think it was around $250...about $125 for each wheel/tire.
Here is one that says it come with both sizes.12-15MM axle 14" Complete rear wheel For small Dirt Pit Bike Trail 90/100-14 Wheel Rim Tire Fits 125-160cc Pit Dirt Bike TTR SSR BBR Includes Brake Rotor and Sprocket a.co/d/j0IYmFO One I bought isn't available anymore.
I put a 14” wheel on the rear of my ssr 125, with the widest tire that fit between the swing arm, very knobby. I kept a 14”” in the front but with a wider tire, very knobby. I ride in a lot of sand and these tires helped. Still not as good as my mb200 with the donut tires. I put a 10and1/4” long shock on the rear, lowered seat 3”. But the best stability adding thing I did for sand riding was increasing the front end trail by installing the triple clamps backwards! Now the steering neck is ahead of the forks. I have 6” of trail. More straight line stability. Google rake and trail.
@@kriswhite9324 I would say just get the knobbiest tire that fits(width wise) between the swing arm. I found the bigger problem in sand is stability, as the front wheel plows along it creates a lot of drag so the rear end swings left or right. This is where fork geometry comes into play, as I mentioned in original post. Keeping front end light by shifting your weight back helps too.
I got a DBX1 a couple of years ago. It's about the right size for a pit bike. Fun to noodle around although not my ideal size dirt bike by a long shot.
@@ARDrummer It's not bad. It's chinese so it's cheap ,but it will "git". Especially for a 140cc. I got a Raven 250 last year for kicks. Decent bike. I have a few street bikes ,but want some cheap bike fun during covid.
I have done this but to a 200cc pitbike i swapped out tye front froks for bigger ones all new front end forks bars wheels ect in The rear i got a bigger swing arm And bigger rear shock as well as new sprocket for rear wheel new disc brakes new Axel's 15mm new larger longer chain also this set up seems okay but i may change out The rear wheel for a 16 inch and keep the 17inch on front it may look goofy idk i haven't tried it yet
Hey bud, great video! I have a question. The wheels you have linked one is 15mm bearing and one is 12mm bearing. Are they different back and front? If not, which is the correct size? Thank you!
I got them on amazon but not sure if the exact ones were still on there. You can check ebay as well. If you are getting the wheels to, make you get ones with the 12mm bearing. That is what the base/stock SSR125 uses.
That would be pretty cool! Yeah, you would need wider forks and swing arm. Would probably have to figure out how to get the chain to line up correct as well since the wider tire/wheel will place the sprocket farther out.
Possibly. I didn't have to change mine though. If you have your current rear wheel adjusted all the way back to get it tight, you may have enough chain to accommodate the bigger wheel when adjusted closer to the front.
@@ARDrummer im not sure if it's an ssr. It is one of the Chinese bikes though. It's a 125cc I'm guessing they call it a big wheel. It said not for riders under 16 so it's defintly for big boys. I'm 180lbs and it will stand up on me lol. It's for my 12 yr old Christmas gift. He loves it. It's just too big. I'm hoping i can change wheels
Just make sure the axle/bolts are the same size and brakes etc line up and bolt pattern is the same. You will probably have to take out a link of two of the chain as well.
Hello, my good man, and fellow drummer. I have recently picked up a 125 also, and found your video to be very helpful. The new axle that the wheels came with you used right? Did you have to adjust chain tension at all? was connecting the brakes, simple just sliding them in? My son’s rear wheel is now out of true, wobbles, and the spokes are loose. Did you make it a point to frequently tighten these spokes on the new wheels, especially on delivery? I apologize for all the questions but any insight is a tremendous help. Thank you so much.
Hey, this wheel setup did come with the axle. The stock 125cc uses a 12mm. Some of the aftermarket wheels have the 15mm axle. I had to adjust the chain some but wasn't much. The brakes should line up. Worst case scenario, you may have to cut down the spacer on one side, but I don't think you will need to. Regarding the spokes, I just made sure they were tight on the new one and haven't had any issue with them loosening up.
i love it, im still concerned about the rear it looks lkie u dont have much room with swingarm, what if it bounces off a jump? and should i just get a better rear shock in case for that reason?
There is a pretty decent amount of clearance. Chain length could make a difference though. I haven't really done any big jumps, so I can't really say how it would do, but I don't think it would bottom out super easy or anything.
With those size wheels it's probably a 70cc or 110cc. I would think a 12 would fit fine in the front. Just have to make sure it has enough clearance when hitting bumps.
@jgrinnell7431 Not sure. You should measure the gap between the current wheel and swing arm. If you have a couple inches of clearance you should be good to go up 2". Chain, brakes etc may be ok but could have to be adjusted if you add a bigger wheel/tire.
Not sure...it really depends on how much space you have between your rear wheel and the swingarm. I put 14/12 setup on a SSR 70. The front wheel hits the fender on big bumps and there isn't much clearance between the swingarm and rear wheel though.
Yes, I didn't modify anything on the bike...just installed the bigger wheels/tires. If your chain doesn't have much adjustment, you would possibly need to add a link or two so the wheel could be adjusted back some. This wasn't an issue for me though.
You should be able to put a 14/12 setup on a 110. Just have to make sure there is enough room/gap at the swingarm for the bigger wheel. I changed out the 10/10 wheels to a 14/12 on a SSR70 but it was tight.
Hey hey! So, I'm going to be buying my first ssr 125 semi auto next week. I wanted to switch out the tires to 17/14. Where did you get the tires? I seen some on amazon for abour $200. Also any tips on keeping up maintenance?
As far as maintenance...change the oil with some good 10W40 motorcycle oil when you first get it and then change it periodically. Make sure all of your bolts are tight after you get it (can use loctite to help keep everything good and secure). I like the foam filters for these. You will need some foam air filter spray to keep the dust from getting into the carb/engine. Here are the wheels I bought: 14" rear wheel: www.amazon.com/Togarhow-Bearing-Hydraulic-Cylinder-Sprocket/dp/B09J2FQGLF/ref=sr_1_34?crid=X9THQ50QFF75&keywords=14%22%2Brear%2Bwheel%2Bdirt%2Bbike&qid=1658616716&sprefix=14%2Brear%2Bwheel%2Bdirt%2Bbike%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-34&th=1 17" front wheel: www.amazon.com/Niome-100-17inch-Bearing-Assembly-2-75x17/dp/B091DGJHG7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=GMAGXNC2QTMT&keywords=17%22+front+wheel+dirt+bike&qid=1658616811&sprefix=17+front+wheel+dirt+bik%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-2
I'm thinking of going 16 front 14 back to me the 17 doesn't match up with the rear 14 if you look at most dirt bike set ups it's almost always 2 number difference 19/21 14/12 the 17 to me looks kinda funky
Your going to lose what power you have you need to change sprocket size and get a better carb. Which everyone that gets these Chinese bikes should do anyway cause it makes a huge difference rather if you Change the tire size or not.
I got a new axle bolt and spacers when I got the bigger wheels since my old one was bent. Sometimes you can cut the existing spacers down if they are too wide.
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I forgot to mention in the video that I have a aftermarket rear shock (installed before I changed out the wheels) that already makes the bike sit up higher than stock.
What shock did you use?
@@bradjohnson4042 It was a cheap ebay shock...I ended up going back to the stock one because the cheap one start making alot of noise.
i have a thumpstar with 14-12 was thinking abt doing the 17-14 how much does it cost and is it worth it
@@matteot9561 It was worth it for me...I really like the ride and height better than the 14/12 setup. I think it was around $250...about $125 for each wheel/tire.
@@ARDrummerwhere did you get them man I want to get the bigger wheels I’d rather have the same ones someone has already used and work
tysm for this vid i just got a ssr and i felt the wheels needed a size upgrade but i didn’t know what exactly to get and this video helped a lot!
Glad the video was helpful! I love having the 17/14 setup...it has been working out great out on the trails.
it's been a while now, can you send the link to the 14" rear wheel you used with the 12mm axle?
Here is one that says it come with both sizes.12-15MM axle 14" Complete rear wheel For small Dirt Pit Bike Trail 90/100-14 Wheel Rim Tire Fits 125-160cc Pit Dirt Bike TTR SSR BBR Includes Brake Rotor and Sprocket a.co/d/j0IYmFO
One I bought isn't available anymore.
I put a 14” wheel on the rear of my ssr 125, with the widest tire that fit between the swing arm, very knobby. I kept a 14”” in the front but with a wider tire, very knobby. I ride in a lot of sand and these tires helped. Still not as good as my mb200 with the donut tires. I put a 10and1/4” long shock on the rear, lowered seat 3”. But the best stability adding thing I did for sand riding was increasing the front end trail by installing the triple clamps backwards! Now the steering neck is ahead of the forks. I have 6” of trail. More straight line stability. Google rake and trail.
Very cool setup!
What tyres did you go with?
@@kriswhite9324 rear tire is Kenda Millville II, 90/100 -14. Front tire is Guang Di, 90/100-14. The width is the widest that fits.
@@track1219 thankyou I'll keep that tyre in mind so it's good in boggy loose sand yeah?
@@kriswhite9324 I would say just get the knobbiest tire that fits(width wise) between the swing arm. I found the bigger problem in sand is stability, as the front wheel plows along it creates a lot of drag so the rear end swings left or right. This is where fork geometry comes into play, as I mentioned in original post. Keeping front end light by shifting your weight back helps too.
I got a DBX1 a couple of years ago. It's about the right size for a pit bike. Fun to noodle around although not my ideal size dirt bike by a long shot.
I just trail ride and like how light pit bikes are. DBX1 is a pretty cool bike!
@@ARDrummer It's not bad. It's chinese so it's cheap ,but it will "git". Especially for a 140cc. I got a Raven 250 last year for kicks. Decent bike. I have a few street bikes ,but want some cheap bike fun during covid.
@@rolandedrummer9723 I love trail riding on dirt bikes & 4 wheelers. A road bike would be cool too though :)
I have done this but to a 200cc pitbike i swapped out tye front froks for bigger ones all new front end forks bars wheels ect in The rear i got a bigger swing arm And bigger rear shock as well as new sprocket for rear wheel new disc brakes new Axel's 15mm new larger longer chain also this set up seems okay but i may change out The rear wheel for a 16 inch and keep the 17inch on front it may look goofy idk i haven't tried it yet
Sounds like you did alot of mods...pretty cool!
Yes thanks for showinbthis video i wasnt sure they would fit but now im goin to order and do this asap
Cool...I really like the way it rides with the bigger wheels/setup.
Great video, looking at doing this same wheel swap on a buscadero 110. On a negative note I hateee how high the back fender is on this pit 😬🥴
I actually ended up buying a longer front and rear fender for mine to match the larger wheels.
Hey bud, great video! I have a question. The wheels you have linked one is 15mm bearing and one is 12mm bearing. Are they different back and front? If not, which is the correct size? Thank you!
Thanks for letting me know about the link. Apparently they changed the listing. On the base model SSR 125's, they have 12mm axles front and back.
@@ARDrummer thanks bro!
Hey boss where did you get the tires I have the same bike
I got them on amazon but not sure if the exact ones were still on there. You can check ebay as well. If you are getting the wheels to, make you get ones with the 12mm bearing. That is what the base/stock SSR125 uses.
I'm thinking about making a Chinese fat tire conversion, all I'd need is a custom swing arm, wheels, tires, and billet / forks right?
That would be pretty cool! Yeah, you would need wider forks and swing arm. Would probably have to figure out how to get the chain to line up correct as well since the wider tire/wheel will place the sprocket farther out.
@@ARDrummer good point, thank you
@@jesusmaryandjoseph6 If you could pull it off though, it would be pretty epic!
@@ARDrummer yeah man, I think so too. I just need to figure out the best starting point
@@jesusmaryandjoseph6 Good luck with your project!
Do you need a bigger chain?
I didn't have to change mine. You may have to add a link or two though
Depends on how tight your current chain is with the stock wheel on it.
would i need to buy a new chain if buy the 17-14
Possibly. I didn't have to change mine though. If you have your current rear wheel adjusted all the way back to get it tight, you may have enough chain to accommodate the bigger wheel when adjusted closer to the front.
@@ARDrummer so did you have to buy any new parts aside from the wheels
@ahmadmughal3784 No I did not, but that may not be the case for everyone.
What is the wheeel bearing size ?
@saccyrich8924 On the base ssr125 model (which is what I have) is a 12mm.
Awesome. I have a question for you. So i just bought a 125 cc for my. Son. It's a big bike. Can i put and smaller wheels on it?
Is it a ssr125? I would think going from 17 & 14 to 14 & 12 should work.
@@ARDrummer im not sure if it's an ssr. It is one of the Chinese bikes though. It's a 125cc I'm guessing they call it a big wheel. It said not for riders under 16 so it's defintly for big boys. I'm 180lbs and it will stand up on me lol. It's for my 12 yr old Christmas gift. He loves it. It's just too big. I'm hoping i can change wheels
Just make sure the axle/bolts are the same size and brakes etc line up and bolt pattern is the same. You will probably have to take out a link of two of the chain as well.
Hello, my good man, and fellow drummer. I have recently picked up a 125 also, and found your video to be very helpful. The new axle that the wheels came with you used right? Did you have to adjust chain tension at all? was connecting the brakes, simple just sliding them in?
My son’s rear wheel is now out of true, wobbles, and the spokes are loose. Did you make it a point to frequently tighten these spokes on the new wheels, especially on delivery? I apologize for all the questions but any insight is a tremendous help. Thank you so much.
Hey, this wheel setup did come with the axle. The stock 125cc uses a 12mm. Some of the aftermarket wheels have the 15mm axle. I had to adjust the chain some but wasn't much. The brakes should line up. Worst case scenario, you may have to cut down the spacer on one side, but I don't think you will need to. Regarding the spokes, I just made sure they were tight on the new one and haven't had any issue with them loosening up.
What size spacers did you use for the rear tire?
I can't remember...sorry. If they are too long, you can take a hack saw and cut them down.
my rear sprocket should line up and mount to the new 14” rim?
It should. I didn't have to modify anything to get it to work. Worst case scenario you could cut down or add a spacer.
Did the 15" kickstand workout? I got a upgraded rear shock as well and put a 14" kickstand but now it sits with a lean and throws my carb off -_-
@loriborland1923 I can't remember 100% but I think I had to cut off a little bit off so it would lean enough to not fall over.
Awesome Mechanical Engineering done Adam !!
Thank you!
@@ARDrummer Your welcome woadie :)
i love it, im still concerned about the rear it looks lkie u dont have much room with swingarm, what if it bounces off a jump? and should i just get a better rear shock in case for that reason?
There is a pretty decent amount of clearance. Chain length could make a difference though. I haven't really done any big jumps, so I can't really say how it would do, but I don't think it would bottom out super easy or anything.
Hi do you know what size the mini dirt bike is . I’m sure they 10, smaller then urs so I could put 12 inch on front of myn , thanks
With those size wheels it's probably a 70cc or 110cc. I would think a 12 would fit fine in the front. Just have to make sure it has enough clearance when hitting bumps.
@@ARDrummer hi yes it a 50cc , thanks for Info! So what size can go to with back with out upgrading swing arm
@jgrinnell7431 Not sure. You should measure the gap between the current wheel and swing arm. If you have a couple inches of clearance you should be good to go up 2". Chain, brakes etc may be ok but could have to be adjusted if you add a bigger wheel/tire.
@@ARDrummer thanks
Do u think there are any big wheel kits for the ssr 110dx?
Not sure...it really depends on how much space you have between your rear wheel and the swingarm. I put 14/12 setup on a SSR 70. The front wheel hits the fender on big bumps and there isn't much clearance between the swingarm and rear wheel though.
HEY BRO WHAT IS THE MAX INDEX LOAD ON THW 17 AND THE 14? I WOULD APPRECIATE THE INFO
I don't have the bike at my house right now, but I run about 15psi in both. Could run more psi but it makes the ride rougher.
Is everything the same and just the tires are bigger on the big wheel compared to standard ?
Yes, I didn't modify anything on the bike...just installed the bigger wheels/tires. If your chain doesn't have much adjustment, you would possibly need to add a link or two so the wheel could be adjusted back some. This wasn't an issue for me though.
You think I can fit the same wheels on a ssr 110 I’m 5,11 is it tall enough for a teenager ?
I'm right at 6' and it's a great height. What wheel size does your 110 currently have? Main thing is to see the swing arm has enough clearance.
My gio 125 can it accept a 18 inch its a big wheel version has 14 inch on it
Cool!
What’s the size of the front tire that you are using?
70/100 17"
Can i do this with ssr 110 ?? From 10 and 12 to idk 14 12 or sunn ??
You should be able to put a 14/12 setup on a 110. Just have to make sure there is enough room/gap at the swingarm for the bigger wheel. I changed out the 10/10 wheels to a 14/12 on a SSR70 but it was tight.
wots the frame size please
@@M2rpitbikeuk I have never measured it, but it's just the standard SSR125. The wheel base is 47".
Hey hey! So, I'm going to be buying my first ssr 125 semi auto next week. I wanted to switch out the tires to 17/14. Where did you get the tires? I seen some on amazon for abour $200. Also any tips on keeping up maintenance?
As far as maintenance...change the oil with some good 10W40 motorcycle oil when you first get it and then change it periodically. Make sure all of your bolts are tight after you get it (can use loctite to help keep everything good and secure). I like the foam filters for these. You will need some foam air filter spray to keep the dust from getting into the carb/engine. Here are the wheels I bought: 14" rear wheel: www.amazon.com/Togarhow-Bearing-Hydraulic-Cylinder-Sprocket/dp/B09J2FQGLF/ref=sr_1_34?crid=X9THQ50QFF75&keywords=14%22%2Brear%2Bwheel%2Bdirt%2Bbike&qid=1658616716&sprefix=14%2Brear%2Bwheel%2Bdirt%2Bbike%2Caps%2C71&sr=8-34&th=1
17" front wheel: www.amazon.com/Niome-100-17inch-Bearing-Assembly-2-75x17/dp/B091DGJHG7/ref=sr_1_2?crid=GMAGXNC2QTMT&keywords=17%22+front+wheel+dirt+bike&qid=1658616811&sprefix=17+front+wheel+dirt+bik%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-2
I have the SSR 140TR big wheel with 17-14 but I wanna make the rear wheel a 16. Has anyone ever done that before?
Really just depends on how much extra room you have between the rear tire and the swing arm.
Did you have to get a diffrent rear axle for the 17/14?
Nope...as long as you buy wheels setup for the 12mm axle, it works perfect. My axle bolt was bent, which is why I got a new one.
A mechanic told me my ssr 125 was going to need 10mm . Is that true or can I still use the 12mm
If it's a base SSR125 it going to be 12mm (never heard of any of them using 10mm). I believe the SSR125tr uses a 14mm.
Can I do this to a ssr 110
Not sure...you would need to see how much room you have with your swingarm. Does your bike have a 12" rear wheel?
I'm thinking of going 16 front 14 back to me the 17 doesn't match up with the rear 14 if you look at most dirt bike set ups it's almost always 2 number difference 19/21 14/12 the 17 to me looks kinda funky
Whatever works for you. The 17 14 setup is pretty standard though.
Very cool video!! Thanks for posting. Bike looks awesome!!
Thanks! I like the ride height better now
Awesome bike my friend 👍👍
Thanks!
Wery cool setup, so where can i buy a long swing arm for bigger wheels?
If you have the ssr125, you can use your existing swingarm 1:06
Awesome bike bro!!!!!
Thanks Bryan!
Are you GunDrummer too wtf?
Nope..not me :)
Your going to lose what power you have you need to change sprocket size and get a better carb. Which everyone that gets these Chinese bikes should do anyway cause it makes a huge difference rather if you Change the tire size or not.
Yeah, I have a different sprocket and a nibbi.
@ARDrummer nibbi isn't that good. But to each there own
@@scottmcbride2237 it works for me
The ratio is terrible. The front tire is far too large for that small back and vice versa. It had to have taken that bike and ruined it.
I have ridden it tons with this setup and it does great. Honda etc. use this ratio on some of their smaller dirt bikes.
Comes stock on many smaller pit bikes “big wheel” for pit bikes
@@izukzgoldzi True
You’ll need diff spacers aswell
I got a new axle bolt and spacers when I got the bigger wheels since my old one was bent. Sometimes you can cut the existing spacers down if they are too wide.
Can I have ur old wheels? Lol
I'm actually using them on my daughter's ssr70...major upgrade from the 10" wheels that originally came on it :)