Well, we did it! A 17 minute video for tiny little bushings. If you found this helpful, please like, comment and subscribe. And head over to thelostco,com for any parts you need while you're at it 😎
Where was this video last year when I struggled for about a week to find the right hardware for my 2021 Fuel EX with offset bushings. LOL. great video.
Really do enjoy your videos, thank you! One unforeseen issue I came across when upgrading my shock for the first time was aligning the eyelets, where the rear eyelet is 90degrees offset from the frame mounted eyelet. I managed to get it… eventually, but it required a reasonable amount of force to twist the stanchion + small tolerances on the mounting bolts meant it took a fair amount of effort to get right.
Thanks! this is the most complete and informative video about bushings. It really answered all my questions and i learned new stuff. Cant wait to see part 2 about coil shock. Cheers
These videos have been absolutely crucial in replacing my old air shock with a new coil. Thank you guys. Ordered my mounting hardware for you and will definitely recommend your channel to any of my riding buddies needing help!
well done Mike. i was actually emailing you about my build and once i hit send i knew i could find a vid on here to solve the question i had about my shock. Mike to the rescue.
Oh man, I wish I would have discovered this video earlier. It answered all the questions I researched painfully all over the internet for the last two weeks. Great video!
thorough and smooth, didn't include the aluminum pressed in type but with everything you included and the open minded approach it can all be surmised, thank you so much!
First time fiddling with rear shocks - and the mounting hardware seemed like a difficult topic. This video explained it so well, super thankful for it!
Your videos are absolutely fantastic and informative, and your customer service and technical support are on point. Subscribed and you gained a new customer. Can't wait for my new coil shock to get here.
All the information here is great but thank you for including the section at the end about 22mm width hardware often being sold as 21.84mm or 22.2mm and which should be used for a bike that specifies 22mm exactly. I found this video while looking for precisely that information!
Geat video. Couple of questions tho... 1: Where can I buy the apprpropriate extraction tools (hopefully for less than 120 bucks). 2: How do I know which extraction tool wil fitt my hardware, and 3: Don´t you want to put some kind of lubrication in there? Surely, a bit of grease won´t hurt hem o-rings. - But great video. Keep´em coming.
Great video! I just wish y'all had a link to the List Co database you mentioned... Having a hard time finding it actually, thank you so much though this is very helpful!
thank you very much FOX doesn't provide guides or pictures for the crush-washer, upgrading from an older Rockshox system I didn't know where I was supposed to place it and in which direction
I stopped using normal bush and now use needle roller bearings, so much better all stainless and work so much better I have to increase the low speed compression as the shock is free to move better.
Question: Should the frame bolt that goes into the shock eyelet be greased? In other words should the area between the frame bolt and sleeve (aka pin) have grease on it?
My new fox shock arrived today and came with DU bushings installed, should I remove those ones and replace the with the ones that came with the mounting hardware?
Hi I measured my frame and there is 66mm of space but I can only buy 54mm or 68mm spacer, so should I buy bigger or should I buy smaller and then use somekind of screw washer to fit it in place?
Very nice video! Thank you for posting! But I have had enough of Fox. Cannot understand why you should pay that much for something more complicated when you can have the same performance from Rockshox.
Great, very helpful... is the shock of specialized enduro which is 205x60 trunnion can be fitted also with nukeproof giga which is the same size 205x60 trunnion. Many thanks
Yes, as long as the eye-to-eye and stroke length is the same, then you can install it the other bike. Since you said one bike uses 205x60 and the other also uses 205x60, then that is the same size and you can therefore swap shocks. You will need to swap mounting hardware as those sizes are likely differenet, and you will likely need to run totally different settings on the same shock between the two bikes as the internal tunes are likely a little different. -Mike
hello, my rear shocks bushings are worn out so do i have to buy all the mounting hardware or just the new bushing??? also how do i know my bikes bushing size??? (marin alpine trail 7 2022). thanks
Thank you for the video. Is the bushing removal tool specific to shock brands? I have a dpx2. Is there a specific one I should purchase or would any work? Thanks.
i got a 2010 specialized Demo 8 been having problems finding mounting hardware for my fox dps the frame bolt is 15mm and the eyelet is 15.08, the inside of the frame is 36mm and that bearing the holds the bolt is 15mm , so how do i find a mounting kit to fit if they only come in m6/m8-m10 guess my question is does those plastic bushings have a 15mm diameter
I went to my local bike shop to install my new fox float x rear shock on my Vitus Sommet 2018. They said they can’t install it and told me I need to reach out to the manufacturer (which they also don’t know) to ask what size is my frame mount hardware. I told the bike shop if they can measure it using caliper, but they said they can’t do it like that since my bike is very specific and that I need to ask straight to the manufacturer.
So you can use any brand of mounting hardware for any brand of shock, besides the exceptions. The video is about the size of the hardware, but what would like to know: Are the spacers the same size? Or, is the width of eyelets the same across brands? I need a 30x8 bushing for a Super Deluxe, but can't find any from RockShox.
We also have RockShox mounting hardware in stock in m8x30 in stock and ready to ship! thelostco.com/products/rockshox-rear-mounting-hardware?variant=42732113232070 -Mike
Thanks for your reaction. I interpreted it as just the diameter. You mean the width of the eyelet is standard as well? I live in Europe and I only look for bikeparts in Europe. Importing stuff makes stuff expensive. 🙂
My bike does not use any hardware on the rear shock eyelet. Without any hardware at all will the shock eyelet eventually wear out enough that I will have to buy a new shock?
Do YOU have a Trek Fuel, Remedy, or Slash? Are you swapping shocks and need the correct offset fox hardware? Then you will need; 1. Trek Part number 540755 x2 (the bolts) [warning, do NOT get the trek "lower" bolt 540756 as it will be too short, as others have found out]. 2. 60mm wide upper bolt with 10mm bolt diameter, Fox Part number 803-03-321. 3. 50mm wide lower bolt with 10mm bolt shaft diameter and the correct offset spacers, Fox Part number 803-03-338. 👍
this may be a silly question but is it possible to change from trunion to eyelet??? I have a awesome Cane Creek shock as a spare and want to use it on my 2020 Scott Genius that has a TR shock.
Technically, yes... But it would involve a lot of parts and labor to do so. In the end, it would be more time and money efficient to simply sell it and purchase a new one.
Hi guys. Great vid. I am looking to swap out a rock shox monarch (debonair) rear shock for a fox float factory x2 - I’m having issues with the rock shox unit. So your vid is timely. Question; the eyelets on the fox shock are oriented 90deg from the rock shox unit, can the fox unit be changed to fit my bike frame (2017 kona process)?
Hi John! If I understand your question correctly, you just need to make your eyelets perpendicular to one another - this is quite easy! If you take a screwdriver (or something similar) to gain some mechanical advantage and place that into the rear eyelet. Then holding the shock body in your other hand, simply rotate the eyelets are perpendicular. Hope that helps! If you are confused or unsure of anything, give us a call, shoot us an email, or you can live chat us on our website. (360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
Installed this set on a 2019 Deluxe RT, it was all the correct spec but a super snug fit. I could not slide my tube in the way you did in the video. I had to use a mallet. How critical is it to center everything? I am >mm off.
Hey there! Sorry, but I'm having a tough time understanding your situation 100%. Please email us at sales@thelostco.com and we'll be happy to help! -Mike
My rear shock has what I’m calling a split eyelet on the bottom meaning the eyelet goes on both sides of the mounting point anyone have any suggestions or even what the correct term is for it as I can’t find a single shock that looks like that…..and the ones i got on my e-bike mine as well be a hard tale as there is no give at all…
i brought a rear shock trunnion mount and its too wide for my frame by about 5mm. eye to eye and stoke lenght are included and correct but the width of the head of the trunnion mount is too big and isnt included on the websites so how am i ment to know what one to get
Hmm, this sounds intriguing. Please reach out to us, via phone, email or the live chat on our website and we will help you figure this out further. (360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
Howdy! As mentioned towards the end of the video, bikes that call for 22mm width mounting hardware will always use a 21.8mm hardware when that is the only option since the frame tolerances are enough to slightly squeeze down to the 21.8mm size. The frame will have a much hardware time expanding outward to the larger 22.2mm size, and most of the time just won't even work.
@@TheLostCo Thanks for getting back to me, that makes sense. I can build bikes from the ground up but the shocks were always fitted so I never had to deal with it before. I’ll subscribe to this channel. Thanks again!
We mean to convey a list in that section: "Doing an upgrade, going from air to coil, or because your shock is damaged.." as opposed to "Upgrading from air to coil." Hope that clears it up!
Well, we did it! A 17 minute video for tiny little bushings. If you found this helpful, please like, comment and subscribe. And head over to thelostco,com for any parts you need while you're at it 😎
Where was this video last year when I struggled for about a week to find the right hardware for my 2021 Fuel EX with offset bushings. LOL. great video.
Really do enjoy your videos, thank you! One unforeseen issue I came across when upgrading my shock for the first time was aligning the eyelets, where the rear eyelet is 90degrees offset from the frame mounted eyelet. I managed to get it… eventually, but it required a reasonable amount of force to twist the stanchion + small tolerances on the mounting bolts meant it took a fair amount of effort to get right.
Luv all your content, however the Ohlins info is inaccurate at best.
This is one of those videos that won't get you 1 million views but is so clutch for people that need it. You're sacrifice will not be in vain.
We get countless questions on the topic daily, so it was one of those videos that will help almost everyone! Thanks for the kind words.
The depth of these videos is what we all like to see.
Thanks! this is the most complete and informative video about bushings. It really answered all my questions and i learned new stuff. Cant wait to see part 2 about coil shock. Cheers
These videos have been absolutely crucial in replacing my old air shock with a new coil. Thank you guys. Ordered my mounting hardware for you and will definitely recommend your channel to any of my riding buddies needing help!
well done Mike. i was actually emailing you about my build and once i hit send i knew i could find a vid on here to solve the question i had about my shock. Mike to the rescue.
Oh man, I wish I would have discovered this video earlier. It answered all the questions I researched painfully all over the internet for the last two weeks. Great video!
Shoot! Sorry you didn't find it earlier, we will make it more "findable" for people in the future.
as someone who is buying a separate shock, this is one of the most helpful videos regarding the subject I've found!! Thank you!!
thorough and smooth, didn't include the aluminum pressed in type but with everything you included and the open minded approach it can all be surmised, thank you so much!
A true life saver. Thank you guys for doing videos like this!
This video answered ALL the questions i had, when upgrading my shock. Thankyou, this was brilliant.
This is the most useful video I have ever seen, thanks! Repleaced the shock by my self after this
First time fiddling with rear shocks - and the mounting hardware seemed like a difficult topic. This video explained it so well, super thankful for it!
I was desperate to find the right hardware for my shock. With this video it's easy now. Thanks!
Heck yeah, that's exactly what we were hoping to help with!
-Mike
Your videos are absolutely fantastic and informative, and your customer service and technical support are on point. Subscribed and you gained a new customer. Can't wait for my new coil shock to get here.
Thank you so much for the kind words!! Enjoy that shock!
Thank you so much for this video, helped so much we need more of these super in depth videos. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you very much! Glad you found all of the info useful!
Nips out was the info I was looking for!!!
This is the video I needed. Thanks much love
offset bushings usually make custom and frame-specific stuff for your bike. Top notch quality too:) (not sponsored)
Thanks, guys! Glad I could buy through you after such an informative video.
Glad we could help and thanks for the support!
Hi Mike, many thanks for the Fox m6 x 21.84 and the bushing removal tool. The mounting hardware are awesome!
Excellent content, thank you guys !!
What an amazing video. So good and timely for me as you guys helped me with a rear shock recently!
Glad it helped and we hope you are enjoying the heck out of that new shock!
Super helpful video. Turned a semi-daunting task into a quick 15 minute job WITHOUT “official” tools. Thanks guys🤙🏼🤙🏼
Our pleasure! That's exactly what we aimed to do with this video 🙂
-Mike
This would have saved me hours if I'd watched this a last week. Thanks for your good work.
You're very welcome!
best video ever seen!! thank you so much!
Yall save my a$$ by having correct mounting stuff in stock and item description that made finding it much easier. Shipped it fast too.
Woohoo! Thanks for your order and the kind words! Happy trails 🤘
-Mike
As usual, the most complete informative video ! Many thanks !
All the information here is great but thank you for including the section at the end about 22mm width hardware often being sold as 21.84mm or 22.2mm and which should be used for a bike that specifies 22mm exactly. I found this video while looking for precisely that information!
Brilliant! Glad we could help.
thank you for you shock mounting hardware database :)
You guys are life savers.
THIS WAS IMMENSELY HELPFUL THANK YOU GRAND MASTER
Amazing Video guys!
Very helpful as I perform my first shock swap.
Phenomenal tutorial!
Great video, I really like watching Mike explain stuff. Now we just have to wait for those shocks to arrive....
We currently have a moderately healthy selection of shocks, but we did just sell through a bunch!
Excellent video
But you didn’t mention scenario 4: just watching because you’re interested in learning more about bikes.
Same lol
Perhaps the second most common scenario.
haha same
I was looking for this comment. Same
Thank you for this amazingly helpful video!
Fantastic job, Lost Co.
I got my fox hardware from you guys. Thank you! 😁
What a brilliant video, so useful and informative
Amazing. My brain has now been enlarged thanks to Lost Co !!!
Thanks for the help man! Nips out...got it
wow it all makes sense now, thank you
You answered my question perfectly 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Nice job. You have gotten way better. Welcome to the pro's
That is awfully kind of you to say - thanks!!
Nice viedo. Keep up the good work.
Such an informative video thank you so much
Heck yea Phony! Glad we could help! -Tor
Very helpful, thank you!
Superb. Thank you very much.
Should you grease before installation or is dry ok? Awesome vid.
Dry is in fact encouraged!
Geat video. Couple of questions tho... 1: Where can I buy the apprpropriate extraction tools (hopefully for less than 120 bucks). 2: How do I know which extraction tool wil fitt my hardware, and 3: Don´t you want to put some kind of lubrication in there? Surely, a bit of grease won´t hurt hem o-rings. - But great video. Keep´em coming.
This really helped me, just awesome thank you 👍
great work, thank you!
Brilliant, literally 2 weeks late though. This would have made my life easier.
Great video! I just wish y'all had a link to the List Co database you mentioned... Having a hard time finding it actually, thank you so much though this is very helpful!
Haha, thanks for this video... china was able to send me a new TR rocker for my Bomber CR I had customized by you guys.
thank you very much FOX doesn't provide guides or pictures for the crush-washer, upgrading from an older Rockshox system I didn't know where I was supposed to place it and in which direction
Wooooo! Stoked we could help out!
Great video
This is why I Love UA-cam
Amazing, perfect :)
I stopped using normal bush and now use needle roller bearings, so much better all stainless and work so much better I have to increase the low speed compression as the shock is free to move better.
great stuff!
perefect F&^%ing timing just order a fox dhx2 coilover for my trek rail 9.9
So helpful thanks
Question: Should the frame bolt that goes into the shock eyelet be greased? In other words should the area between the frame bolt and sleeve (aka pin) have grease on it?
You are the best 🤟
My new fox shock arrived today and came with DU bushings installed, should I remove those ones and replace the with the ones that came with the mounting hardware?
Thanks for the explainer. If M8x22 is such a common side how come no one makes it? My Bronson uses that size.
Which way do you orient the metal bushing seam inside the eyelet? I have an older fox float RP23 rear shock
Hi I measured my frame and there is 66mm of space but I can only buy 54mm or 68mm spacer, so should I buy bigger or should I buy smaller and then use somekind of screw washer to fit it in place?
Very nice video! Thank you for posting! But I have had enough of Fox. Cannot understand why you should pay that much for something more complicated when you can have the same performance from Rockshox.
I use an oldschool astrix stryke. I'm trying to put a budget dnm coil fork. I don't know which hardware to use.
Whoop! Welcome back guys! It's been way too long 🤘
It's been a busy busy spring, but we are glad to be back and hope to keep 'em rolling.
Just open a new tab hahahahaha bro this guy is so funny man. Good info tho thanks Mike!
Great, very helpful... is the shock of specialized enduro which is 205x60 trunnion can be fitted also with nukeproof giga which is the same size 205x60 trunnion. Many thanks
Yes, as long as the eye-to-eye and stroke length is the same, then you can install it the other bike. Since you said one bike uses 205x60 and the other also uses 205x60, then that is the same size and you can therefore swap shocks. You will need to swap mounting hardware as those sizes are likely differenet, and you will likely need to run totally different settings on the same shock between the two bikes as the internal tunes are likely a little different.
-Mike
Many thanks 😊
hello, my rear shocks bushings are worn out so do i have to buy all the mounting hardware or just the new bushing??? also how do i know my bikes bushing size??? (marin alpine trail 7 2022). thanks
Thank you for the video. Is the bushing removal tool specific to shock brands? I have a dpx2. Is there a specific one I should purchase or would any work? Thanks.
Hey Tim! Taking the bushings out of any shocks should be exactly the same! Your DPX2 should be smooth sailing 😎 -Tor
i got a 2010 specialized Demo 8 been having problems finding mounting hardware for my fox dps the frame bolt is 15mm and the eyelet is 15.08, the inside of the frame is 36mm and that bearing the holds the bolt is 15mm , so how do i find a mounting kit to fit if they only come in m6/m8-m10 guess my question is does those plastic bushings have a 15mm diameter
So can I use the same mounting hardware if I'm changing a fox shock for rock shox shock? Or will a problem occur if I use the same one?
Option 4, just something to watch
The IGIS is self-lubrication, but are the bronze (you called them steel) ones that too? In other words, this none of this be greased on install????
how do you remove/install the bearing for the bearing mount shock?
where do i get the metal bushing removal pin and kit? and what is it called and it's diameter?
Hey Omar! We sell 2 types on our website:
thelostco.com/products/underwood-design-shock-bushing-install-removal-tool
thelostco.com/products/wheels-manufacturing-shock-pivot-bushing-removal-tool
I went to my local bike shop to install my new fox float x rear shock on my Vitus Sommet 2018. They said they can’t install it and told me I need to reach out to the manufacturer (which they also don’t know) to ask what size is my frame mount hardware. I told the bike shop if they can measure it using caliper, but they said they can’t do it like that since my bike is very specific and that I need to ask straight to the manufacturer.
So you can use any brand of mounting hardware for any brand of shock, besides the exceptions. The video is about the size of the hardware, but what would like to know: Are the spacers the same size? Or, is the width of eyelets the same across brands? I need a 30x8 bushing for a Super Deluxe, but can't find any from RockShox.
Hey there! Please check through the video again as we cover this exact topic at 2:28
-Mike
We also have RockShox mounting hardware in stock in m8x30 in stock and ready to ship!
thelostco.com/products/rockshox-rear-mounting-hardware?variant=42732113232070
-Mike
Thanks for your reaction. I interpreted it as just the diameter. You mean the width of the eyelet is standard as well?
I live in Europe and I only look for bikeparts in Europe. Importing stuff makes stuff expensive. 🙂
My bike does not use any hardware on the rear shock eyelet. Without any hardware at all will the shock eyelet eventually wear out enough that I will have to buy a new shock?
fantastic
Do YOU have a Trek Fuel, Remedy, or Slash? Are you swapping shocks and need the correct offset fox hardware? Then you will need;
1. Trek Part number 540755 x2 (the bolts) [warning, do NOT get the trek "lower" bolt 540756 as it will be too short, as others have found out].
2. 60mm wide upper bolt with 10mm bolt diameter, Fox Part number 803-03-321.
3. 50mm wide lower bolt with 10mm bolt shaft diameter and the correct offset spacers, Fox Part number 803-03-338.
👍
Nice.
this may be a silly question but is it possible to change from trunion to eyelet??? I have a awesome Cane Creek shock as a spare and want to use it on my 2020 Scott Genius that has a TR shock.
Technically, yes... But it would involve a lot of parts and labor to do so. In the end, it would be more time and money efficient to simply sell it and purchase a new one.
Thank you
Hi guys. Great vid. I am looking to swap out a rock shox monarch (debonair) rear shock for a fox float factory x2 - I’m having issues with the rock shox unit. So your vid is timely. Question; the eyelets on the fox shock are oriented 90deg from the rock shox unit, can the fox unit be changed to fit my bike frame (2017 kona process)?
Hi John! If I understand your question correctly, you just need to make your eyelets perpendicular to one another - this is quite easy! If you take a screwdriver (or something similar) to gain some mechanical advantage and place that into the rear eyelet. Then holding the shock body in your other hand, simply rotate the eyelets are perpendicular. Hope that helps! If you are confused or unsure of anything, give us a call, shoot us an email, or you can live chat us on our website.
(360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
@@TheLostCo thanks!
i have a cube one77 29 pro black anodized and cant find any shock mounting hardware for it? anyone got some tips?
Installed this set on a 2019 Deluxe RT, it was all the correct spec but a super snug fit. I could not slide my tube in the way you did in the video. I had to use a mallet.
How critical is it to center everything? I am >mm off.
Hey there! Sorry, but I'm having a tough time understanding your situation 100%. Please email us at sales@thelostco.com and we'll be happy to help!
-Mike
@@TheLostCo The long black aluminum tube. The one that fits inside all of the bushing pieces! Mine had to be beat in with a mallet.
My rear shock has what I’m calling a split eyelet on the bottom meaning the eyelet goes on both sides of the mounting point anyone have any suggestions or even what the correct term is for it as I can’t find a single shock that looks like that…..and the ones i got on my e-bike mine as well be a hard tale as there is no give at all…
i brought a rear shock trunnion mount and its too wide for my frame by about 5mm. eye to eye and stoke lenght are included and correct but the width of the head of the trunnion mount is too big and isnt included on the websites so how am i ment to know what one to get
Hmm, this sounds intriguing. Please reach out to us, via phone, email or the live chat on our website and we will help you figure this out further.
(360) 306-8827 // sales@thelostco.com
Hello, my Santa Cruz v3 specifies m8x22 but the only fox mounting hardware I can see is 21.84 or 22.2 Any ideas?
Howdy! As mentioned towards the end of the video, bikes that call for 22mm width mounting hardware will always use a 21.8mm hardware when that is the only option since the frame tolerances are enough to slightly squeeze down to the 21.8mm size. The frame will have a much hardware time expanding outward to the larger 22.2mm size, and most of the time just won't even work.
@@TheLostCo Thanks for getting back to me, that makes sense. I can build bikes from the ground up but the shocks were always fitted so I never had to deal with it before. I’ll subscribe to this channel.
Thanks again!
Lost Co. helped me with harware next day FED X losing my order. Stand up Company to deal with. JMO
What does „upgrading“ from air to coil even mean? I just did it the other way round ;-)
We mean to convey a list in that section: "Doing an upgrade, going from air to coil, or because your shock is damaged.." as opposed to "Upgrading from air to coil."
Hope that clears it up!
@@TheLostCo No worries, wasn‘t meant that seriously ;-)
@@Hudlbuar All good! That was definitely something I was thinking about when rewatching that section, so I am glad you brought it up. Cheers!