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Hey Luke, I had hopes before the delay. Look if you are hurting for another player for content, I’d be willing to let you gift me a copy of this “Game” I have a ps5 and series X. I’m a Canadian & a content creator as well. My offer is on the table. Great luck bro.
BLUE , this game was the only thing I was waiting for for a ps5 I was actually saving up for it for years *then the zombie virus happened* I held out hope for it then they switched it to LIVE and I knew it was over
Bro the taunts for deadshot are so weird to me. Like what the hell do Graffiti on a Wall or Basketball have anything to do with deadshot? It feels racist almost
It IS racist, they are playing into tropes and the worst part is they changed him to match Will Smith's Deadshot. He is supposed to be a white dude but apparently that one was a fake... yeah.
I honestly don't mind a new desdshot that much, if only because the idea of a hero or a villain being a title that is taken by different people from time to time does happen in auperhero media. I just felt it weird that the NEW Deadshot is somehow supposed to be the original and the old deadshot was some sort of impostor. It goes against established lore of the Arkham trilogy. Also the taunts ARE racist. Deadshot is a master shooter, superhuman in skill, and they give him generic black guy stereotype taunts? Really?
In the US, automobile makers are subject to "The Lemon Law", which means car dealers cannot legally sell a non-functioning car without telling the consumer. Video game companies need to held to a similar legal standard, especially after hearing that some players payed $100 dollars for a broken game.
Agree with the sediment, but I gotta disagree with the idea it would be for games like Suicide Squad. The game is still functional, and it is fun at times. Just one that is repetitive as fuck. No that would imply for games like the day before or even Gollum.
They should at least be held to that standard until the game is fully finished since it’s a live service to prevent Rocksteady and WB from pulling the plug on it early.
If the servers cant even handle the 800 players that are still playing how tf was the game supposed to work if it would have held up the expectations and had like 80k-100k players???? What were they thinking???
It's the payday 3 situation all over again, those servers were also barely handling the minimum amount of players and now the game today only has like about 200-300 players left it's basically dead at this point.
Funny thing is SS on PS5 has 100k. I've seen pic from someone. Not sure if that's cross platform number but that's so low compared to Palwold, GTAO and HDivers 2.
they project player counts and rent store/compute/hosting/networking cost to said projection, if it deviates, they have outages or lose money. im not condoning it at all, just know, its due to penny-pinching greed
@@lxsaglr8704So cool that Arkham Knight was so repetitive? How many side missions you've done to get same missions when Penguin, Deathstroke and TwoFace appear? How many times you did same Firefly chase?
@@SeriousDragonifywhat answer? You didn’t even ask a question lol. Yes knight was repetitive , personally I’m fine with it cause it was at the very least an enjoyable game. Squad was incredibly boring and had clunky gameplay that wasn’t satisfying. I think it’s dumb to compare knight to squad since they’re different but squad should’ve done a better job at being a good and enjoyable game
15:10 correction, it's the devs that make that make the studio. It's like saying "bungie is a talented company because they made halo". The people that did make Halo are long gone, same with rocksteady.
I’m just so shocked a game no one wanted, forcing players to play as D List Villains that kill & piss on our childhood Heroes is a catastrophic failure….
@@KristyybugShe's overrated. Possibly the most overrated character of the last 10 years. At least when one considers that nothing she is in is financially successful
She is a B lister at best. A sidekick that can't carry anything herself. She is a gutted shell of the character she originally was when created for the Animated Series. Modern day Harley Quinn is a bad character.
Dude, the Rocksteady Batman games have *_never_* respected the source material. In BTAS, Harley didn't dress, talk, and act like a cheap [redacted by youtube], nor would The Joker ever impregnate her. He uses Harley and exploits her obsession with him to his advantage, but he'd never actually get with her. Plus, Joker would NEVER inject himself with the Bane serum, Batman most definitely wouldn't run people over with the Batmobile, and Ra's Al Ghul *_definitely_* wouldn't commit Self Crit. It's a bit silly to act like Rocksteady has only now betrayed the source material. You were just fine with it up until now.
@@carterb4 give them a break, it's all they can do is justify and deceive. There certainly aren't enough people buying/playing the pos to keep it running so they have to do SOMETHING with their time.
I mean this game is Warner bros. They wanted to make a game from a genre they didn’t understand. And then forced a dev team that ALSO doesn’t understand the is ALL WB fault. And the higher ups in Rocksteady really
i feel like even a James Gun suicide squad fps game wouldve worked so much better ratcatcher as a dishonoured type character, king shark as a melee monster, peacemaker and bloodsport being similar but having really different weapons and abilities could have had 2k players active
They're going to reveal a road map to try and recoup a playerbase, then cancel it prematurely because gamers just won't be assed. Just like Anthem and Avengers.
@@Whiteshade true but the writing was on the wall they deserve to get ripped off honestly, especially if they dont patch the game, they paid super deluxe for what? A buggy unfinished mess.
The crazy thing is last year WB games had the best selling game by making a single player game that the fans wanted. This year they have a massive failure by doing a live service game that fans did not want.
The funny thing is if harry potter did a live service game it would have done well because harry potter doesnt have alot of games and 2 they dont have to do much make it a working school simulator and have jobs and activites like gta rp and they would be raking in the dough
If Legacy would of been live service it would of been a fucking disaster, If their servers for SS broke at 1500 players tf would of happened with a player count like Legacy. Shit would of set WB HQ on fire. @@theoutsiderjess1869
That's one thing I don't think people realize when a piece of media is genuinely bad. No one WANTS to be the sour grape and say "Hey this is boring" but lying by accepting this is only gonna encourage less and less from media companies, in this case a game studio, while also expecting us to pay more.
@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy Avengers while clunky with certain characters if it had better mission and more enemy varities other than robots it would have been a solid game. I enjoyed playing Avengers sometimes
Avengers at least had popular characters you wanted to play as, not a bunch of B-listers that no one cares about outside of maybe Harley. Even though Avengers was bad, you at least got your moments getting to smash things as Hulk, fly around as Iron Man, etc.
Player numbers for Suicide Squad are lower than Helldivers right now. And I'm talking Helldivers ONE, which had it's already fairly low playerbase halfed due to the release of Helldivers 2.
Something no one talks about when talking about WB and Disney failures is the catastrophic status of marvel and DC comic books. They haven't turned a profit in probably a decade. Neither of them.
"Why are those helicopters flying if Green Lantern died" the right question would be: why did the ring stay in the earth, and why was it still with John? the ring only goes to the "worthy", and John became corrupted and would lose the ring. After the death of a Lantern, the ring goes away after another bearer, and I don't think King Shark would become a Green Lantern. maybe red could even be WHY IS THERE A GREEN RING ON THE EARTH? Why Rocksteady, why? Rocksteady lost our trust just like CDPR, but the difference is that they managed to turn things around by improving the entire game (literally) and managed to win us again, and as they have 2 franchises it's easier. But Rocksteady only had Batman, the only apology would be with a new Batman, but they killed Batman and Franchises
I feel like the core issue with any game based on a licensed property is that they run into using the wrong order of operations, i.e.: make a good game first and plop in recognizable characters second. The Arkham games weren't great because they had Batman, they were a great game with Batman in it. There was an interview with a writer (I think?) of the second live action TMNT Michael Bay movie who literally said something to the effect of thinking people would like it simply because they put Bebop and Rocksteady into it. That's not how entertainment works, and more producers and companies need to understand that.
@@yomamasohot6411 I would agree with you in spirit, but I know there exists people that will simply look at one date being earlier than the other, and apply that bias nonetheless.
If there was a leak in the future about CEOs trying to make the biggest flop possible then games like this, Avengers, etc would make sense and I would believe it. Because I don’t know how anybody was thinking this game was going to pop off at all. The same applies to movies, tv, just about all entertainment is filled with baffling decisions that would only make sense if they’re doing it on purpose for some reason.
I honestly believe even if the current dev team and story writing team at Rocksteady had made a single player game( god forbid with assistance from Sweet Baby Inc) that game wouldve been mediocre at best and forgotten on arrival at worst, as someone said, Blizzard is a dead skeleton run by ESG obsessed freaks and money hungry management so is Rockstead and a lot of triple A studios now.
My ex played a significant role in the development of this game, and it's been extremely satisfying to watch it crash and burn. Is that petty of me? Yes. Is it a delicious hit of schadenfreude? Also yes.
Whereas Melkor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their works he destroyed if he could. - JRR Tolkien, The Silmarillion
@@brightongoodwin1267some game studios have entire positions purely for marketing in particular manners which are deceptive, they hire people purely for deception.
I remember me and my mate couldn't finish the damn story for like 3 days in a row until they dropped the first patch because gettin sent to Earth 2 if either of us moved it'd full on soft lock the game. I wanted to enjoy this game, sometimes I got a genuine chuckle but not a whole lot of the time the game has such potential but it feels kinda squandered
I’ve been wondering if there are any Rocksteady devs who knew this game was gonna be garbage, said something about it, and were shut down. There has to be SOME right? It’s a shame either way
It's never a good sign when they quickly try to move on after saying it didn't meet expectations. It's already a low-key confirmation that they're having second thoughts of continuing to support it.
I will be shocked if this game makes it a year. The way WB likes to cut their losses, I could see the servers getting turned off, and this game being given some kind of "endless" sandbox mode for psychopaths to play offline.
As one of those 840 people playing, i had to stop last night because the update tanked performance. And can confirm the missions freezing and having to end game once mission is completed. I played a ton on ps5. Playing it on pc this week. And was enjoying it until this recent patch. Saw potential, but seems like they are going out of there way to end it just because it didn't meet there expectations. So those who stick around get screwed!
Man WB.. it's pretty obvious, even as someone who is not a Harry Potter fan, why one did better than the other. The Potter game: Respected the source material, sold a complete game, satisfying gameplay, met people's expectations in a satisfying way KTJL: Spat on the source material, sold a series of microtransactions and season passes, uber repetitive gameplay, failed to live up to a single expectation
The reason the patches are going to take so long and the DLC is going to dry up, is because all the Devs are busy punching up their resumes for the inevitable layoffs. I doubt the Rocksteady that existed before WB bought them is even there anymore.
Rocksteady has taken a serious hit to their reputation considering that they didn’t use their own writers and instead used a company that does the writing for your games but don’t know much about the source material.
@@Speederzzz So uh, much like industry standardization, they teach you the way you "should" write? Then what is the difference? They directly influence the content then
Warner Bros Discovery tried dropping the announcement after 4PM on a Friday, and their stock still lost 15% of it's value. People were paying much closer attention than WBD had hoped.
When Arkham Knight has 6000+ players vs less than 900 on Steam, it shows that there truly is a divide composed of different factors: the quality of the live-service, the legacy behind the studio, the franchise, the constant online requirement, the replayability.
I wouldn't give "devs" too much shit, as generally, they're told what to do and not do. Honestly, when the business side started to weasel its way into the game side, that's when gaming went down the drain.
I think they could redeem themselves if they made an arkham-style game out of batman beyond starring the original voice actor of Terry McGinnis. I would adore flying Terry around future Gotham.
If you played Helldivers 2 and going back to Suicice Squad all the flashing damage numbers, hit multipliers and ui elements really cause pain to my eye. It's such an improvement to have them absent in Helldivers because the health status is visible by looking at the enemies, when they lose limbs and being visibly damaged. This is sooo much better than all these damage numbers popping up, mixed with hit multipliers and stuff. Also aiming in SS seams to have no recoil and not requiring any skill to aim properly, shooting feels so bad compared to Helldivers.
When the game was first announced, I thought rocksteady was going to utilize the mechanics we saw in Arkham Knight where Batman is fighting alongside Catwoman, nightwing, and robin where you seamlessly pivot between characters…then I saw gameplay😢
For me its random, sometimes its after one mission and sometimes i get 3 missions deep and then loading Metropolis happens ... and i rented this to see for myself how the game was smh
Youd think theyd release their mistake with the story and killing off the batman folk grew up playing by using a dlc to reset the timeline or something..its bafflingly how theyve left it
That's obviously what's going to happen... its a love service game... the story so far is basically the prologue. That's how games as a service work. People seem to just thi k live service means battlepassess
At 05:57 when he is speaking about the positive commenting person I love the fact there’s an as underneath that comment about depression that just fits far too well for this game ha
It would be a rather poetic conclusion to see Rocksteady completely die out due to them shooting themselves where the heart of their company used to be, all in the name of money and tolerance. But let's not forget, they have all that Sweet Baby money they can fall on to last 10 seasons with 5 players or less and still make it past their bottom line. That's why games suck nowadays. Companies no longer have to rely on actual gamers to fund their games. They just have to let one of these woke, government-funded "projects" to collaborate on writing or rewriting the script/storyline for them and it'll be, for lack of a better word, insured up to and including failsafe profit. No I'm not some conspiracy nut, go on one of their websites and it'll break it down far more specifically.
I imagine most people at Rocksteady are too busy updating their resumes to work on this game, cause I can already tell the studio's going to be taking both the blame and the axe before this year's out. Meanwhile, the execs who are slobbering about going all in on live service and mobile games will be picking out new leather furniture sets for their offices.
I don’t blame the devs. I blame the executives and shareholders holders for making game changing key decisions, instead of the developers actually making the game they want, and the game they know the players want. This was just easy money in the eyes of the execs, and they just couldn’t say no to this game format. Also, I was so bummed out when they announced the LIVE SERVICE quidditch game. They had the perfect opportunity and utmost potential for an extremely high selling DLC for Legacy by adding a quidditch DLC. But they wanted to chase trends, they want to charge the purchase price, and then all that sweet, sweet microtransactions money. So disappointing.. 🤦♂️
What those companies dont get is this: life service games are a risk for the consumer. I basically buy the promise of something eventually being great. If i see it struggling i will not buy it on a sale, free trial or such. I either buy them at launch if i see them thriving and am interested, or never. Because thanks to fomo tactics i will have missed dozens of unique one time goodies through seasons and have to be afraid that Servers close down next week, making any time and money i invest an absolute waste. Those games do not have legs sales wise, because those companies cut em off themselves.
What makes me so pissed is that it's so obvious what kind of game any Suicide Squad game should be; a Roguelite. Constant character turnover as you die, adding new D-list type characters with stupid powers.
“Rocksteady are usually really good about polish and able games.” …do you not remember them literally un-releasing Arkham:BatTank on PC because it was unplayable buggy!?
Yeah I've been playing through this train wreck just out of pure curiosity. And I didn't have any issues until the update. Now there's even loot bugs where you get rewarded uncommon rarity at high levels, and legendary gear basically reverts and loses it unique perk.
Even if the game was better, it would still suck, because it screwed the story so badly that nothing could save it now. People hate this game for a good reason.
I'd feel bad for the people who bought this game, but the warning signs were there a mile away. After a certain point, it's the consumer's fault for burning their money.
I think the greatest example of a live-service game is GTA V. Had a great full AAA story mode coupled with an online mode that stood on its own. The could have done the same here and gave us an Arkham quality story with co-op with separate live service multiplayer would have been the route. The execs just don't know a thing about games and gamers to be able to allow the devs to create such a thing anymore.
To be fair though, apart from the fact that the game apparently sucks major balls and is the perfect example of everything wrong with „modern gaming”, shares always drop dramatically immediately after launch as that’s usually their peak value and that’s when many investors sell their shares. Naturally, they shouldn’t drop as hard as they have, this most likely means that not many investors believe the shares are bound to gain value, which they should with a live service format, but still, I feel like it’s important to mention here.
So, Suicide Squad released on Feb 2 and the tweet at 8:00 was posted on Feb 23. This means the AAA budget game set in the Arkham Universe got a whopping 2 patches in 3 weeks. Meanwhile, Helldivers 2, made by a company with less than 100 people, released on Feb 8 and got it's 9th patch(going off patch notes on Steam) by that same day. As if I needed more reinforcement that AAA doesn't care about its products or customers. And 17:19, when people are looking for an excuse to not play the game for longer than they have to... It's not a good look.
Would've been great to play as the league.. each mission unique in accordance to each super. No live service crap, just good ol' creative minds coming together to innovate and make a great experience to remember for years to come. Missed opportunity to the MAX.
Unfortunately, I think what happens in this case (and other similar examples), is that WB will basically write it off and not be willing to invest more money to get this game to where it should be. Some games end up fixing all of the launch issues and becoming what they should have been (Cyberpunk 2077, No Man's Sky, etc.). But with corporate overlords like WB, I'm not optimistic that they'll let Rocksteady fix this game.
Usually I wouldn't mind if a great studio like Rocksteady releases one bad game every once in a while. However, the fact that this essentially took them 9 years truly baffles me.
i have seen a few fans say wait a year till after season 3 ends and that is when it will get good but i dont think it will last that long. plus wait for a year after launch for a game to get good is a very bad take for anything. sometimes fans just dont live in reality.
I wish we were in the alternate universe were we are all applauding Rocksteady for a fantastic Batman Beyond or Superman game, this is so fucking depressing. What could have been...
just in the last about 12 months forspoken redfall overwatch "2" starfield suicide squad skull and bones these games took YEARS or DECADES and hundreds of millions of dollars to make combined easily over a billion and are already dead in such a short time
They're gonna dump the already finished dlc all at once to fulfill the base requirement of not getting a class action lawsuit for false advertisement. Then the dlc they're working on now, they'll charge for and not admit to that being what was planned to be free. And there's no waybthey completely suspended any future cost and plans to start financing milestone goals slated for over 6 months from now. They know it's already dead so it's about saving costs more than anything. I would be shocked if any quality of life patches even get made at all anymore.
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Sefton Hill and Jamie Walker actually left Rocksteady because they didn't want their names to associated with this game.
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Hey Luke, I had hopes before the delay. Look if you are hurting for another player for content, I’d be willing to let you gift me a copy of this “Game” I have a ps5 and series X.
I’m a Canadian & a content creator as well. My offer is on the table.
Great luck bro.
BLUE , this game was the only thing I was waiting for for a ps5 I was actually saving up for it for years *then the zombie virus happened* I held out hope for it then they switched it to LIVE and I knew it was over
Bro the taunts for deadshot are so weird to me. Like what the hell do Graffiti on a Wall or Basketball have anything to do with deadshot? It feels racist almost
It IS racist, they are playing into tropes and the worst part is they changed him to match Will Smith's Deadshot. He is supposed to be a white dude but apparently that one was a fake... yeah.
@@fish5645 reminds me of what they did in Spider-Man 2 with Miles except a bit worse
lookup when marvel tried to do a black thor, its literally the same
@@beauregardheeryeah, but they didn't change Miles' face
I honestly don't mind a new desdshot that much, if only because the idea of a hero or a villain being a title that is taken by different people from time to time does happen in auperhero media.
I just felt it weird that the NEW Deadshot is somehow supposed to be the original and the old deadshot was some sort of impostor. It goes against established lore of the Arkham trilogy.
Also the taunts ARE racist. Deadshot is a master shooter, superhuman in skill, and they give him generic black guy stereotype taunts? Really?
In the US, automobile makers are subject to "The Lemon Law", which means car dealers cannot legally sell a non-functioning car without telling the consumer. Video game companies need to held to a similar legal standard, especially after hearing that some players payed $100 dollars for a broken game.
Agree with the sediment, but I gotta disagree with the idea it would be for games like Suicide Squad. The game is still functional, and it is fun at times. Just one that is repetitive as fuck.
No that would imply for games like the day before or even Gollum.
They should at least be held to that standard until the game is fully finished since it’s a live service to prevent Rocksteady and WB from pulling the plug on it early.
@@Killgore-ip2yqThis game being sediment is correct.
There are two industries where you have absolutely no obligations to the customer. And both call their customers "Users".
How is the game functional if there are still reports of people unable to launch the game or unable to log into it?@@Killgore-ip2yq
If the servers cant even handle the 800 players that are still playing how tf was the game supposed to work if it would have held up the expectations and had like 80k-100k players???? What were they thinking???
It's the payday 3 situation all over again, those servers were also barely handling the minimum amount of players and now the game today only has like about 200-300 players left it's basically dead at this point.
They weren't, They don't have the capability to do so.
Funny thing is SS on PS5 has 100k.
I've seen pic from someone.
Not sure if that's cross platform number but that's so low compared to Palwold, GTAO and HDivers 2.
they project player counts and rent store/compute/hosting/networking cost to said projection, if it deviates, they have outages or lose money. im not condoning it at all, just know, its due to penny-pinching greed
@@SeriousDragonifywhere are they getting ps5 numbers? Because on pc it’s under 1k
RockSteady choosing this over a futuristic 'Batman Beyond' game has to be one of the worst decisions in video game history 🤦
Holy shit! I just thought of that. That would be so cool!
@@lxsaglr8704So cool that Arkham Knight was so repetitive?
How many side missions you've done to get same missions when Penguin, Deathstroke and TwoFace appear?
How many times you did same Firefly chase?
@@SeriousDragonifya decent amount of times yeah, still Arkham Knight looks like a masterpiece compared to Suicide Squad
@@bigyoshi5170 Stop comparing to other game.
SS is a looter shooter.
You're avoiding to give proper answer.
@@SeriousDragonifywhat answer? You didn’t even ask a question lol. Yes knight was repetitive , personally I’m fine with it cause it was at the very least an enjoyable game. Squad was incredibly boring and had clunky gameplay that wasn’t satisfying.
I think it’s dumb to compare knight to squad since they’re different but squad should’ve done a better job at being a good and enjoyable game
Right now, Batman: Arkham Knight: 4,567 players now / 6,713 players 24-hour peak
Origins: 1,339 / 2,147
City: 1,835 / 2,801
Asylum: 1,828 / 3,057
SSKTJL: 473 / 946
15:10 correction, it's the devs that make that make the studio. It's like saying "bungie is a talented company because they made halo". The people that did make Halo are long gone, same with rocksteady.
I’m just so shocked a game no one wanted, forcing players to play as D List Villains that kill & piss on our childhood Heroes is a catastrophic failure….
First of all I never cared for the flash. Second Harley is HARDLY D list.
@@KristyybugShe's overrated. Possibly the most overrated character of the last 10 years.
At least when one considers that nothing she is in is financially successful
@@matthewmosier8439she's still not a d lister
@@matthewmosier8439 just because you think she is overrated still doesnt make her a dlister
She is a B lister at best. A sidekick that can't carry anything herself. She is a gutted shell of the character she originally was when created for the Animated Series. Modern day Harley Quinn is a bad character.
You know the game is really really bad when your friends won't play it even if you offer to gave them for free.
They better pay me to play this bruh
Literally couldnt even give it away
got the game streamed it to my friends once and 2 of them got it to play w me 🤷🏻♂️ it’s fun for us but i get it’s not everyone’s cup of tea
@@apollyon24789I would say it's not most people's cup of tea honestly, but at least someone is enjoying it lol!!!
I would try it for free. Don't know if I'll get bored though.
Love seeing these massive companies that don’t care about the source material or the fans fail so intensely.
Dude, the Rocksteady Batman games have *_never_* respected the source material. In BTAS, Harley didn't dress, talk, and act like a cheap [redacted by youtube], nor would The Joker ever impregnate her. He uses Harley and exploits her obsession with him to his advantage, but he'd never actually get with her.
Plus, Joker would NEVER inject himself with the Bane serum, Batman most definitely wouldn't run people over with the Batmobile, and Ra's Al Ghul *_definitely_* wouldn't commit Self Crit.
It's a bit silly to act like Rocksteady has only now betrayed the source material. You were just fine with it up until now.
@@WobblesandBeanstop trying to justify a shit story
@@carterb4 give them a break, it's all they can do is justify and deceive. There certainly aren't enough people buying/playing the pos to keep it running so they have to do SOMETHING with their time.
You love that? Tf
@@WobblesandBeanyou dont have to say [redacted by youtube], you can just say harlot
This game ain’t satisfied with just killing the justice league, it’s hungry for Warner bros and rocksteady
😅
I mean this game is Warner bros. They wanted to make a game from a genre they didn’t understand. And then forced a dev team that ALSO doesn’t understand the is ALL WB fault. And the higher ups in Rocksteady really
Warner bros kinda deserves it atp
i feel like even a James Gun suicide squad fps game wouldve worked so much better ratcatcher as a dishonoured type character, king shark as a melee monster, peacemaker and bloodsport being similar but having really different weapons and abilities could have had 2k players active
"New playable character"? It's just another character using the same guns
Yeah but you move differently. Duh
@@casual1118 and has a different voice
They're going to reveal a road map to try and recoup a playerbase, then cancel it prematurely because gamers just won't be assed. Just like Anthem and Avengers.
Haha history repeating itself. So true.
With all these clowns playing, they won't even need to add the Joker in.
So true. XD
what do you expect them to do? they paid extra for deluxe, can't refund. Of course they are going to act like game is fun.
@@Whiteshade true but the writing was on the wall they deserve to get ripped off honestly, especially if they dont patch the game, they paid super deluxe for what? A buggy unfinished mess.
The game is fun what sucks is it a live service and all the hate around it@Whiteshade
Lol
The crazy thing is last year WB games had the best selling game by making a single player game that the fans wanted. This year they have a massive failure by doing a live service game that fans did not want.
Guess they just didn't learn huh... 😅
The funny thing is if harry potter did a live service game it would have done well because harry potter doesnt have alot of games and 2 they dont have to do much make it a working school simulator and have jobs and activites like gta rp and they would be raking in the dough
It's as if they made a game for gamers, then proceeded to make a game primarily for investors.
If Legacy would of been live service it would of been a fucking disaster, If their servers for SS broke at 1500 players tf would of happened with a player count like Legacy. Shit would of set WB HQ on fire. @@theoutsiderjess1869
And they will continue to not learn.@@markadams5009
Suicide Squad : Kill the Live Service model
Hope they succeed.
But then you wouldn’t have helldivers
@@DarthReaper a sacrifice I’d live with if we can get quality games back
now that's some Blue Lantern mantra if I ever heard any.
*slot machine*
That's one thing I don't think people realize when a piece of media is genuinely bad.
No one WANTS to be the sour grape and say "Hey this is boring" but lying by accepting this is only gonna encourage less and less from media companies, in this case a game studio, while also expecting us to pay more.
I never minded being the sour grape.
It’s crazy that they saw how avengers was and did fail but they still went ahead and basically made the same shit if not woese
Avengers was much better in actually kinda bummed I can’t play it now that it would be super cheap
@@MikeMarlowe-ym3zy Avengers while clunky with certain characters if it had better mission and more enemy varities other than robots it would have been a solid game. I enjoyed playing Avengers sometimes
Avengers at least had popular characters you wanted to play as, not a bunch of B-listers that no one cares about outside of maybe Harley. Even though Avengers was bad, you at least got your moments getting to smash things as Hulk, fly around as Iron Man, etc.
@@theoutsiderjess1869 the characters had unique playstyles, by default that blows SS out of the water
Player numbers for Suicide Squad are lower than Helldivers right now. And I'm talking Helldivers ONE, which had it's already fairly low playerbase halfed due to the release of Helldivers 2.
Strange. I think Helldivers 1 is far more fun. Helldivers 2 is a mess.
The fact that CP2077 has over 30k players after all the issues at launch and Kill The Justice League has less than 1,000 says a lot.
CP2077 had a massive free update that fixed everything, this game fixed the shop menu
Something no one talks about when talking about WB and Disney failures is the catastrophic status of marvel and DC comic books. They haven't turned a profit in probably a decade. Neither of them.
Because it has turned into a girl brand.
@@sparhawk1228 not even sane girls like it
"Why are those helicopters flying if Green Lantern died"
the right question would be: why did the ring stay in the earth, and why was it still with John? the ring only goes to the "worthy", and John became corrupted and would lose the ring.
After the death of a Lantern, the ring goes away after another bearer, and I don't think King Shark would become a Green Lantern. maybe red could even be
WHY IS THERE A GREEN RING ON THE EARTH? Why Rocksteady, why?
Rocksteady lost our trust just like CDPR, but the difference is that they managed to turn things around by improving the entire game (literally) and managed to win us again, and as they have 2 franchises it's easier. But Rocksteady only had Batman, the only apology would be with a new Batman, but they killed Batman and Franchises
I feel like the core issue with any game based on a licensed property is that they run into using the wrong order of operations, i.e.: make a good game first and plop in recognizable characters second. The Arkham games weren't great because they had Batman, they were a great game with Batman in it. There was an interview with a writer (I think?) of the second live action TMNT Michael Bay movie who literally said something to the effect of thinking people would like it simply because they put Bebop and Rocksteady into it. That's not how entertainment works, and more producers and companies need to understand that.
"I don't know about this, do you want to just play Helldivers instead?"
Recency Bias aside, that's kind of telling.
Helldivers is pretty good
You can't say recency bias when the two games launched hardly a week apart.
@@yomamasohot6411 I would agree with you in spirit, but I know there exists people that will simply look at one date being earlier than the other, and apply that bias nonetheless.
Helldivers is always fun
@@eldrasillone game is better then the other
Damn, millions down the drain which could have been spent on an Arkham sequel. These executives need to be axed ASAP
or a superman or JL game
In my best Tod Howard voice “SixTEEN times the disappointment “
"14 times the brainiac"
If there was a leak in the future about CEOs trying to make the biggest flop possible then games like this, Avengers, etc would make sense and I would believe it. Because I don’t know how anybody was thinking this game was going to pop off at all.
The same applies to movies, tv, just about all entertainment is filled with baffling decisions that would only make sense if they’re doing it on purpose for some reason.
I honestly believe even if the current dev team and story writing team at Rocksteady had made a single player game( god forbid with assistance from Sweet Baby Inc) that game wouldve been mediocre at best and forgotten on arrival at worst, as someone said, Blizzard is a dead skeleton run by ESG obsessed freaks and money hungry management so is Rockstead and a lot of triple A studios now.
My ex played a significant role in the development of this game, and it's been extremely satisfying to watch it crash and burn. Is that petty of me? Yes. Is it a delicious hit of schadenfreude? Also yes.
Your level of Pettiness is Legendary lmao, I Love It lol
😂
When the subreddit and twitter are turning against the company you know the game is really dying
The game wasn't alive to begin with
That has been happening for years. We tried to warn them, but they didn't listen.
This an example of:
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.
Whereas Melkor spent his spirit in envy and hate, until at last he could make nothing save in mockery of the thought of others, and all their works he destroyed if he could.
- JRR Tolkien, The Silmarillion
Y'all need to calm the fuck down with all this talk of "evil"
@PioneerPete0307 Its a fucking game developer???
@@Speederzzz And your logic being... game developers do no evil?
Check out some of the patents Activision has on manipulating consumer spending
@@brightongoodwin1267some game studios have entire positions purely for marketing in particular manners which are deceptive, they hire people purely for deception.
I remember me and my mate couldn't finish the damn story for like 3 days in a row until they dropped the first patch because gettin sent to Earth 2 if either of us moved it'd full on soft lock the game.
I wanted to enjoy this game, sometimes I got a genuine chuckle but not a whole lot of the time the game has such potential but it feels kinda squandered
I’ve been wondering if there are any Rocksteady devs who knew this game was gonna be garbage, said something about it, and were shut down. There has to be SOME right? It’s a shame either way
It's never a good sign when they quickly try to move on after saying it didn't meet expectations. It's already a low-key confirmation that they're having second thoughts of continuing to support it.
Suicide of RockSteady will not be buying a game from them again
I will be shocked if this game makes it a year. The way WB likes to cut their losses, I could see the servers getting turned off, and this game being given some kind of "endless" sandbox mode for psychopaths to play offline.
I'd like to see another AAA dev company try another stunt like this if the message was not clear already.
As one of those 840 people playing, i had to stop last night because the update tanked performance. And can confirm the missions freezing and having to end game once mission is completed. I played a ton on ps5. Playing it on pc this week. And was enjoying it until this recent patch. Saw potential, but seems like they are going out of there way to end it just because it didn't meet there expectations. So those who stick around get screwed!
Guess it's time for some Helldivers
Game is woke trash an insulted the batman Arkham verse as well as Kevin Conroy in his last game appearance
Well I guess some people like garbage
Hope something better comes along that you can play dude
*"Sorry, but your Brainiac Its in another Ship."*
At least every level mario meet new enemies, worlds, blocks, challenges and power ups...
Man WB.. it's pretty obvious, even as someone who is not a Harry Potter fan, why one did better than the other.
The Potter game: Respected the source material, sold a complete game, satisfying gameplay, met people's expectations in a satisfying way
KTJL: Spat on the source material, sold a series of microtransactions and season passes, uber repetitive gameplay, failed to live up to a single expectation
The reason the patches are going to take so long and the DLC is going to dry up, is because all the Devs are busy punching up their resumes for the inevitable layoffs. I doubt the Rocksteady that existed before WB bought them is even there anymore.
Can we all agree that we need to go play Helldivers 2? If not for anything other than liberty? I mean I’m doing this for FREEDOM!
Malevolon creek will be free!
Just as a side note, at this very moment the channel has _666_ videos.
🤘🏻
Looks like this was supposed to be Crackdown 4 with the mechanics, movement, and UI elements
Hey Luke. Dying light 2 is a game that improved alot post launch. You think you could cover it?
Sure, I’ll redownload it this weekend and give it another shot when I get a chance!
@@LukeStephensTVyou a real 1💯
@@LukeStephensTV they also added guns
@LukeStephensTV LETS GOOO I've been thinking about replaying Dyling Light 2 and hopefully your video will help me decide
I've been keeping an eye on Dying Light 2 and it seems like it's worth trying out now.
Rocksteady has taken a serious hit to their reputation considering that they didn’t use their own writers and instead used a company that does the writing for your games but don’t know much about the source material.
They did use their own writers........
@@willbaker6532 no I don't think rocksteady writers did the writing from what I've seen from other UA-cam videos, correct me if I'm wrong though.
Sweet Baby Inc.
Good pick Rocksteady, you played yourself. Get absolutely bamboozled
@@FlameOfRoyeca they aren't writers though? They are advisors and consultants, they won't write your stuff, just check it.
@@Speederzzz So uh, much like industry standardization, they teach you the way you "should" write? Then what is the difference? They directly influence the content then
It's impressive to have so many server issues in a game with so few players.
Warner Bros Discovery tried dropping the announcement after 4PM on a Friday, and their stock still lost 15% of it's value. People were paying much closer attention than WBD had hoped.
The twist is, the cutomers have been the suicide squad all along...
Unfortunately this is the kind of disaster executives look at and shut down studios over
When your gaming studio is filled with representation & not talented people who know how to make good functioning games
When Arkham Knight has 6000+ players vs less than 900 on Steam, it shows that there truly is a divide composed of different factors: the quality of the live-service, the legacy behind the studio, the franchise, the constant online requirement, the replayability.
*slot machines*
I wouldn't give "devs" too much shit, as generally, they're told what to do and not do. Honestly, when the business side started to weasel its way into the game side, that's when gaming went down the drain.
They don't respect your time. They don't respect comic book enjoyers. They don't respect you.
That's what happens when you do not stay loyal to your brand.
The only people left playing have to be Trophy/Achievement Hunters
Nah you get all the trophies just by logging in lol
I think they could redeem themselves if they made an arkham-style game out of batman beyond starring the original voice actor of Terry McGinnis. I would adore flying Terry around future Gotham.
Too bad they wasted Kevin Conroy's final performance. He could have passed the torch. Instead Rocksteady had the Squad piss on the Leage....
If you played Helldivers 2 and going back to Suicice Squad all the flashing damage numbers, hit multipliers and ui elements really cause pain to my eye. It's such an improvement to have them absent in Helldivers because the health status is visible by looking at the enemies, when they lose limbs and being visibly damaged. This is sooo much better than all these damage numbers popping up, mixed with hit multipliers and stuff. Also aiming in SS seams to have no recoil and not requiring any skill to aim properly, shooting feels so bad compared to Helldivers.
well theyre living up to the title. they are killing the justice league ip
When the game was first announced, I thought rocksteady was going to utilize the mechanics we saw in Arkham Knight where Batman is fighting alongside Catwoman, nightwing, and robin where you seamlessly pivot between characters…then I saw gameplay😢
"suicide squad didn't just die... IT WAS MURDERED!!!"
- that one youtuber from years back -
That's literally what the title is called *SUICIDE* squad
its not the same Rocksteady that we love. Rocksteady is dead
For me its random, sometimes its after one mission and sometimes i get 3 missions deep and then loading Metropolis happens ... and i rented this to see for myself how the game was smh
Youd think theyd release their mistake with the story and killing off the batman folk grew up playing by using a dlc to reset the timeline or something..its bafflingly how theyve left it
That's obviously what's going to happen... its a love service game... the story so far is basically the prologue.
That's how games as a service work. People seem to just thi k live service means battlepassess
Part of the problem is sweet baby inc they helped shape the story heavily
Sweet Baby has the touch of death
Before 2024 : Don't jump the shark.
After 2024: Don't gay the shark.
See this game can still be a cultural footnote Rocksteady.
I wonder if WB is rethinking that whole, "This will be our approach to DC games moving forward" thing yet.
At 05:57 when he is speaking about the positive commenting person I love the fact there’s an as underneath that comment about depression that just fits far too well for this game ha
Sewer Side Squad: Kill --the Justice League-- --My Landlord-- Rocksteady & WB Studios
It would be a rather poetic conclusion to see Rocksteady completely die out due to them shooting themselves where the heart of their company used to be, all in the name of money and tolerance. But let's not forget, they have all that Sweet Baby money they can fall on to last 10 seasons with 5 players or less and still make it past their bottom line. That's why games suck nowadays. Companies no longer have to rely on actual gamers to fund their games. They just have to let one of these woke, government-funded "projects" to collaborate on writing or rewriting the script/storyline for them and it'll be, for lack of a better word, insured up to and including failsafe profit. No I'm not some conspiracy nut, go on one of their websites and it'll break it down far more specifically.
you: "last time i touched this game..."
me: don't touch it, it will leave stain and stench on you
I imagine most people at Rocksteady are too busy updating their resumes to work on this game, cause I can already tell the studio's going to be taking both the blame and the axe before this year's out. Meanwhile, the execs who are slobbering about going all in on live service and mobile games will be picking out new leather furniture sets for their offices.
I don’t blame the devs.
I blame the executives and shareholders holders for making game changing key decisions, instead of the developers actually making the game they want, and the game they know the players want.
This was just easy money in the eyes of the execs, and they just couldn’t say no to this game format.
Also,
I was so bummed out when they announced the LIVE SERVICE quidditch game.
They had the perfect opportunity and utmost potential for an extremely high selling DLC for Legacy by adding a quidditch DLC.
But they wanted to chase trends, they want to charge the purchase price, and then all that sweet, sweet microtransactions money.
So disappointing.. 🤦♂️
What those companies dont get is this: life service games are a risk for the consumer. I basically buy the promise of something eventually being great. If i see it struggling i will not buy it on a sale, free trial or such. I either buy them at launch if i see them thriving and am interested, or never. Because thanks to fomo tactics i will have missed dozens of unique one time goodies through seasons and have to be afraid that Servers close down next week, making any time and money i invest an absolute waste. Those games do not have legs sales wise, because those companies cut em off themselves.
What makes me so pissed is that it's so obvious what kind of game any Suicide Squad game should be; a Roguelite. Constant character turnover as you die, adding new D-list type characters with stupid powers.
As a big DC/ Marvel fan im so glad i didnt buy this woke bullsh1tt. Instead i got hell divers 2 and im loving it.
“Rocksteady are usually really good about polish and able games.”
…do you not remember them literally un-releasing Arkham:BatTank on PC because it was unplayable buggy!?
as soon as i think im out… THEY PULL ME BACK IN
Yeah I've been playing through this train wreck just out of pure curiosity. And I didn't have any issues until the update. Now there's even loot bugs where you get rewarded uncommon rarity at high levels, and legendary gear basically reverts and loses it unique perk.
Can’t believe they passed on the Batman Beyond game for _this._
Even if the game was better, it would still suck, because it screwed the story so badly that nothing could save it now.
People hate this game for a good reason.
i remember watching the cutscenes online and watching the end one thinking "no fucking way they are making it to 12 brainiacs "
Funny part is, since this is a live service game, eventually it will be shutdown and with no offline mode, it will vanish forever.
I'd feel bad for the people who bought this game, but the warning signs were there a mile away. After a certain point, it's the consumer's fault for burning their money.
I think the greatest example of a live-service game is GTA V. Had a great full AAA story mode coupled with an online mode that stood on its own. The could have done the same here and gave us an Arkham quality story with co-op with separate live service multiplayer would have been the route. The execs just don't know a thing about games and gamers to be able to allow the devs to create such a thing anymore.
To be fair though, apart from the fact that the game apparently sucks major balls and is the perfect example of everything wrong with „modern gaming”, shares always drop dramatically immediately after launch as that’s usually their peak value and that’s when many investors sell their shares. Naturally, they shouldn’t drop as hard as they have, this most likely means that not many investors believe the shares are bound to gain value, which they should with a live service format, but still, I feel like it’s important to mention here.
So, Suicide Squad released on Feb 2 and the tweet at 8:00 was posted on Feb 23. This means the AAA budget game set in the Arkham Universe got a whopping 2 patches in 3 weeks. Meanwhile, Helldivers 2, made by a company with less than 100 people, released on Feb 8 and got it's 9th patch(going off patch notes on Steam) by that same day. As if I needed more reinforcement that AAA doesn't care about its products or customers.
And 17:19, when people are looking for an excuse to not play the game for longer than they have to... It's not a good look.
Would've been great to play as the league.. each mission unique in accordance to each super.
No live service crap, just good ol' creative minds coming together to innovate and make a great experience to remember for years to come.
Missed opportunity to the MAX.
Problem is all these people already paid for this garbage and rewarded the company
Unfortunately, I think what happens in this case (and other similar examples), is that WB will basically write it off and not be willing to invest more money to get this game to where it should be. Some games end up fixing all of the launch issues and becoming what they should have been (Cyberpunk 2077, No Man's Sky, etc.). But with corporate overlords like WB, I'm not optimistic that they'll let Rocksteady fix this game.
I knew this game was DOA when they delayed it for a year after working on it for what like 8 years. now everybody saying the same thing.
Usually I wouldn't mind if a great studio like Rocksteady releases one bad game every once in a while. However, the fact that this essentially took them 9 years truly baffles me.
i have seen a few fans say wait a year till after season 3 ends and that is when it will get good but i dont think it will last that long. plus wait for a year after launch for a game to get good is a very bad take for anything. sometimes fans just dont live in reality.
I wish we were in the alternate universe were we are all applauding Rocksteady for a fantastic Batman Beyond or Superman game, this is so fucking depressing. What could have been...
How much longer before Rocksteady announces 'Batman: Arkham Asylum Remastered' - The "Remember When We Got It Right?" Edition...?
just in the last about 12 months
forspoken
redfall
overwatch "2"
starfield
suicide squad
skull and bones
these games took YEARS or DECADES and hundreds of millions of dollars to make combined easily over a billion and are already dead in such a short time
Add Payday 3 and Saints Row to the list of flops!
They're gonna dump the already finished dlc all at once to fulfill the base requirement of not getting a class action lawsuit for false advertisement. Then the dlc they're working on now, they'll charge for and not admit to that being what was planned to be free. And there's no waybthey completely suspended any future cost and plans to start financing milestone goals slated for over 6 months from now. They know it's already dead so it's about saving costs more than anything. I would be shocked if any quality of life patches even get made at all anymore.
i might go back and play it if they release an dlc where i can play as Batman and fight in free flow combat...
that means CFO won't get a new yacht, damn
Nah they will