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Could have paid twice as much and had the same outcome by buying anything SIG
Yeah sig us trash
I had the same problem with Daniel Defense bolt last year.
Well they love gun control so they're a shit tier company as well.
Got over 5,000 rounds on a PSA "Fathers of Freedom" BCG in a 14.5 M4A1 with some full auto usage and not one hiccup so far.
So that means you didn't just get lucky?
@TerriblyTactical I don't believe in luck. A pistol length gas system weapon will beat the ever living hell out of the BCG if you are running a standard carbine spring and buffer, we've known that for decades. I would had went with a A5 buffer system or at least a Sprinco "red" spring and H4 buffer for obvious reasons.
I've gotten at least 7-8 thousand rounds out of mine and it's still running fine. My barrel is definitely ruined but it's still running😂
@@worgankneesplasta ditch that button barrel and slap in a CHF chrome lined.
@@The_Disgruntled_Operatoryessir. I think that's wut imma do
Can this start today I got PSA mags coming for my G43x? I put 500 rounds thru 1st set of mags and they worked flawlessly.
For now
Mine worked great until about 700 rounds
This is why i only buy CARPENTER STEEL bolts
Yeah this looks like it's compressed tin cans lol
My PSA-15 upper used carpenter steel too! Cracked at the cam groove at 6,000 rounds
Is the IWI Zion-15 any good? I was thinking of that for my first rifle.
@jonathan6480 I personally wouldn't buy one but all the people on yt that got one for free say they're great. Baseline is aero precision/stag/ballistic advantage for me and then bcm. Aero lower with a bcm upper is very affordable and will be a solid go to gun for ya.
I have one , no issues. Did you reach out PSA?
Yeah...everyone's got one....they are trash...warranty doesn't matter in a gunfight
@@TerriblyTactical good video though thank. Will subscribe
@@TerriblyTactical Send me all your PSA stuff so I can take it off your hands bro.
@@TerriblyTactical what kind of gunfight do you expect to be in where you shoot nearly 1,000 rounds before you have a catastrophic failure like this.
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Lol facts
So i dont understand. You had one bolt break and psa is garbage now? What about the thousands of people that have thousands of rounds thru their guns?
I've had several issues with psa throught the years and seen others have plenty. All yall be lying about round counts and don't actually shoot or train. Sit down.
@@TerriblyTacticalYou can think whatever you want bubby😂 I'm like 95% you're jus making shit up. Cs no one else has had or seen these problems
@@TerriblyTactical I gave honest round count numbers above. It sounds like you're just in denial. From 5.56, 9mm, 300BO, 22lr, I've got >20k rounds through their products and in practice, they're better than Glocks.
@@TexZenMaster you're delusional
@@TerriblyTacticalhahahaha no one trains cause you said so. You dont even know how the manufacturing industry works lil bro.
All companies have lemons..
Lol everything they put out is a lemon.
@@TerriblyTactical law of averages says that's impossible.. but I have the same thinking about eo tech after the thermal shift anomaly back in the day.
@wwclay86 the problem is eotech actually cares and fixes the issues. They hold the contracts they do for a reason. Psa is cheap junk that the masses glom over because of the price...which only keeps going up and imo quality keeps going down. They were alright back in the day but far from it today.
@@TerriblyTactical that's unfortunate. It's one reason I won't buy a jakl, or a dagger. usually I parts, never whole guns and the parts hold up. I got 1 PSA bolt and I'm gonna start paying more attention to it.
@wwclay86 most definitely do
That's crazy! I've heard of bolts breaking, but never seen it. Thank the creator God you're not hurt.
PSA stripped lowers arent bad in my experience.
@FierceMouse I've seen those crack as well. Domt waste your money. Just get aero.
Wow! Thanks for showing that. I have two palmetto AR pistols, and a third AR pistol that has a palmetto barrel. I haven’t had problems yet, but haven’t shot them much. I just kinda use them as range toys.
Keep an eye on em!
PSA uses Mil-Spec shot-peened Carpenter 158 steel bolts in their rifles. Mil-Spec is Mil-Spec so the same could happen to any Mil-Spec bolt by anybody else. Many of their bolts are sourced from Toolcraft. Regardless, they all have the PSA lifetime guarantee so will replace it if contacted. I have never had a problem with mine and if what you saw happened frequently at all then that's all you'd be reading about on UA-cam. Which is absolutely not the case.
There are numerous complaints about all their shit all over. They are not milspec.
@@TerriblyTactical LOL, will that's a prime example of what they call "contempt prior to investigation." The PSA website says they are Mil-Spec and why they are. MANY other experts such as Chris at Small Arms Solutions (who used to be high-up at Colt and a recognized world-wide authority on the AR platform) says they are- check out his YT reviews of PSA ARs. I'm on UA-cam gun channels A LOT and no more than 1-2% of them report a serious failure like you had. You are permitted to have a bias against them and hate them if you must. But at least some of your viewers will call BS on outright lies you tell that are not supported by plenty of evidence.
What BCG do you recommend?
Bcm or aero
@@TerriblyTactical aero?😂 You might as well jus stick a PSA bolt back in it
Oh hell no, seen similar situations with Aero bolts...stick with BCM or SOLGW or a good milspec chrome bcg from what I've seen. Microbest phosphate bcgs apparently are good to go.
So when you pulled the bolt face outta the locking lugs was the case stuck in the barrel?
I will wait for your response
@fredted1611 the bolt was holding the case but it came right out with the bolt and was in perfect shape to be reloaded
@@TerriblyTactical
Ok that eliminates an over pressured round, as the case would be stuck and or primer blown out.
But I hate to "break" 😂 it to you but bolts can just break. You should keep a spare bolt or bcg or both around if your playing with AR's. I keep Griffin bolts and BCGs around.
@@fredted1611 a bolt that breaks in less than 1k rounds is unacceptable. Bca has better qc than that lol
@@TerriblyTactical
Dude it fuckin happens, my local shop has a M&P 15 with 5 rounds through it and the bolt broke. Shit happens, pull up your big boy panties and get over it.
@@TerriblyTactical
🤣 Brand new M&P15 in our shop right now broken bolt on its first magazine.
It happens, keep a spare BCG or bolt face or better yet both around and your good. Part of deal owning an AR.
Get over it.
I don’t recognize the markings on that BCG, when did you get it? That’s a yikes
Not exactly sure but pretty sure it was a daily deal thing that came with 10 pmags.
Does PSA make their own bolt carrier groups, or do they source them from FN?
If they got em from fn, they wouldn't break
@@TerriblyTactical It's funny how you trash PSA and yet I hear that a lot of their barrels are sourced from FN
The majority of PSA barrels are done in some factory that is NOT FN ... unless you buy a higher tier priced PSA gun then youre not getting an FN barrel. Wtf is it with the ratchet PSA dweebs who will go to war for PSA even though they make junk guns.. sure everyone makes bad stuff at times but PSA has a substantially higher failure rate
@@ecobasetech4558nah he don't base his disagreements on facts. Only ignorance
So why did you choose a PSA BCG when there are others to choose from?
I just had it laying around and expected to swap it out later but not within 1k rounds of use...that's simply absurd
This guy was a waiting for this day to happen. Contact them, life time warranty. They aren’t the best. Use a better BCG like BCM
Lifetime warrant cuz you're gunna need it. Also would do nothing for me if it was life or death. You psa needs are ridiculous with the cope lol
@@TerriblyTactical learned with this vehicles unfortunately
Warranty does NOT make it okay for a product to fail, especially on tools that can be life-dependent.
People like you need to wake up and get up from their knees.
The warranty is only there to give the company a chance to make it right; it is a warning to their quality/design and the bare minimum compensation for the consumer, NOT an excuse!
I will still support psa because it an American company
You're a goof troop
So is bravo co USA so is sig and even BCA lol lol .... No buys BCA for the obvious...and people buy sig or DD for the obvious. Stop shilling for PSA
American company or not if they aren't putting out good quality reliable go elsewhere don't be committed to junk an say well there American made you fool
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I have two daggers, a couple uppers. No issues out of any of them
Do you actually use em lol
@@TerriblyTactical I do but maybe I’m lucky
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@doug7310 true but this is nothing new for psa. They have nothing but qc issues
Looks like a crappy PSA nitride bcg. I've purchased their phosphate bcgs which are chrome lined and made by microbest. They're apparently a manufacturer of bcgs that companies use to put their own logos on. Was this one a microbest? Disconcerting to say the least, what happened here.
Not exactly sure but it is unacceptable quality...or lack thereof.
@@TerriblyTactical Sucks spending money on something for it to fail, be ever worse for it to fail when your life is on the line...Good thing it failed now when you didn't need it.
Nitride not designed for full auto use.
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@gedocowboy8484 lol agreed, but this didn't hold up to even 1k rounds and that's pathetic imo.
And people say oh they make good stuff. Complete insanity that people swear by their aks
Yeah...people will cope with their trash products they never use
As an AK builder i 100 agree with you !!! They make straight dogsht AKs ! Majority of their parts are not AKM spec and they're not heat treated correctly as well as no swell neck dumpling on their receivers. Truly boggles my mind !!!! People actually defend their junk
@@luciankristov6436 they're all brainwashed by shills
“Surprised the gun didn’t blow” ??? Why would the gun blow from a cracked bolt? Next thing you’re going to say is if you hold the forward assist, the whole gun will explode too
Are you dumb?
@@TerriblyTactical very… but not about bolt carriers and they don’t explode when you crack it in half.
Been having really good luck with Diamondback better quality metal
Hopefully that continues for ya!
PSA over diamondback any day. Only diamondback I've ever had was under gassed straight from the store
No issues with the two DB10s I have.
@@ReticentIndignationI've only had a problem with the one an I sent it in and got it fixed. I was just making a point lol. Diamondback is a great brand for the price
That’s usually where bolts fail. Get a micro best and call it a day
In less than 1000 rounds though? That's junk.
@@TerriblyTactical I didn’t say the bolt wasn’t junk. It is. I was just letting you know that’s where a majority fail
Doesn't look like this was a microbest bolt, didn't see any chrome lining.
@@ReticentIndignation it’s not PSA makes their own I believe… but I could be wrong
@@shootintheshtpodcastIMHO, likely why it failed...I'd go with the microbest version with the chrome lined carrier as well.
Garand thumb ran one full auto up 5k rounds and only stopped because it ran way beyond expectations. They all could have bad parts. All of them. Even the big names. Get off your high horse.
@user-pq6gt5mr1p lol you're a fool. They stopped at 5k cuz the barrel was shot out. That's just as pathetic as your cope.
I give zero fucks about you or your dumbass video.
@@TerriblyTacticaloh no.. I guess I'll trade barrels then?
@@TerriblyTacticaloh the barrel was shot out? Like any barrel if 5k rounds was ran thru it all at once. A barrel can be shot out an still work. This doesn't contribute anything useful to the conversation
@@worgankneesplasta you're only contributing to my algorithm nerd. I can go back and forth with you all day.
That's a lemon bruh. Considering I've built out probably 10 to 12 rigs through them, usin their bolts and parts and have ran them over 5 years. I've never seen a bcg do that, (we shoot every week aswell) we've ran everything from bottom of the barrel rigs like DPMS, PSA, Bear creek arsenal, up to SOLGW, BCM Giessle, LMT and knights. Like I said you got a lemon.
Nah bro that's standard psa. They have 0 quality control.
@@TerriblyTactical lol ok brotha.
For what I can see he/they have been going with the cheapest and there is nothing wrong with it.
However, I have PSA uppers and lowers and no issues yet. I do up grade the internals in all my tools, never leave them as they come from day one.
Lol gtfo out my comment section with that pronoun queer shit. I've got guns that cost over 4k....psa is junk and you shouldn't speak on things you know nothing about.
My understanding is psa bcgs are made by toolcraft as they make bcgs for other manufacturers too. Have shot alot of rounds thru psa uppers not many problems. Buy psa just as good or better than anything else in that price range.
@@poncho12335 that's laughable
Public Service Announcement in this case.
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This is not a defending statement, but usually a cracked bolt like that is caused by other issues than just sub par material
Such as?
@@TerriblyTactical a big factor in that would be barrel extension being clocked ever so slightly to one side or the other. Aka the lugs of the bolt not lining up correctly with the teeth of the barrel extension and they smack into each other when chambering a round. Then that puts enormous pressure on the lugs when trying to extract. This would more than likely snap lugs off the bolt than split it in half, but still a factor. Straightness and timing of everything as well like the carrier inside the receiver. So many factors to consider and not just what the bolt is made out of
Exactly. The problem could be an out of spec upper or a bunch of different things. If that happened to me I'd also be sending the upper back to stag arms and making them double check everything. Thats if stag arms is as good with warrantys as psa is.
@cd4498 lol psa is not good with customer service and they have to have lifetime warranty because this shit happens to them constantly cuz they refuse to do things right the first time.
@@TerriblyTactical i dunno ive had good experiences with psas customer service. Yes ive had to use them lol. This could happen to any companys bcg especially if the uppers out of spec. Not saying it is but ya never know. Doesnt tool craft make bolts for psa? Are you sure you even got one manufacturered by them?
Wow! I have never seen that. I’m no expert but that is freaky.
Definitely not good lol
Wtf that’s crazy glad you got it on film I use there uppers but I put in different bcg but yeah that’s awful I would contact them to send you a better one to be honest I would expect that from bear creek arsenal bud psa 😂 damn that’s all bad
A replacement would only be more of their sub par bs
@@TerriblyTactical true that it wouldnt hurt though i would be pissed as well.
@@AmericanMexicanGunslinger Re: "it wouldnt hurt though" You first. I'd be counting my blessings (+ digits) and not rollin' the dice again.
@@rustyshackleford4299 every company has flaws even high end one your always rolling the dice buddy 😂
@@AmericanMexicanGunslinger Something, something law of averages. S'all good gunslanger, just means more Pretty Shitty Armory for you!
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Their Dagger receivers for Glock 19’s SUCK!!!!!!!! Ever notice that they don’t have any negative reviews? That’s because they won’t publish them. If they did, they’d probably go out of business. I wouldn’t buy any of their proprietary equipment. Their QC is horrible, and they will not stand behind their products.
@@BafflingBS facts.
Put a cheap bolt carrier in it and that’s what you get.
Yeah...duh
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This is why I don't chimp on BCGs and barrels. Considering how many parts PSA puts out at their price points is why you get what you get.
That's unacceptable in my opinion. Less than 1k rounds. If they cannot produce a solid product that works and holds up, then they shouldn't be making it.
@@TerriblyTactical Than no company would be manufacturing... Every single company has problems, its finding them that becomes the expensive part, because it takes time. Some companies check every bolt like solgw and there production numbers allow that. Most do whats called a batch testing where hundreds and sometimes thousands get checked good based on a handful of them. As someone who sent back a radian BCG for a defect, your opinion doesn't mean much.
Where PSA slacks in certain CQ, they have great customer service...
And again, you get what you pay for, their entire purpose is to produce enough rifles for a low enough entry price to where every American could afford one...
If you dont like it, maybe buy something a little higher quality...
@dabush6380 their customer service is trash and they are not pro freedom...they are pro dollars in their pocket.
warranty time, its a firearm it goes boom of course things are gonna break
@@adtjr124420 unacceptable for the round count. Stop coping cuz you own their trash.
What the heck are those 2 dimples on the left side of the carrier?
?
@@TerriblyTactical Pause it at 2:09
i was thinking the same thing cuz my psa bcg doesnt have those dimples
This is a known weak point to the AR platform, the cam pin area of the bolt. It an break here, though any bolt failure us rare, it can happen. I wouldn't jump to blaming the mfg, especially based on a sample size of 1.
Contact them, and get a new bolt. If you are worried about headspace, which likely isnt a problem, get yourself some go/nogo gauges.
Rifle is fine. You just had a failure, it happens.
No...it's unacceptable...psa is trash. This is not the only issue I've had or seen others have. Stop coping and believing the hype. They are a shit company with shit products.
My Dagger is trash and I will NEVER buy another ... period
Everything they make is trash
@@TerriblyTactical So you are trashing PSA, one of the few firearm companies that are actually trying to arm every American citizen by manufacturing and selling affordable firearms because you had a sample of one fail on you? Not only that but it was the Bolt that failed, not the entire gun. So don't use their BCGs!
PSA lower with all BCM parts and upper. Meta.
Replace psa with aero and you're right
Agree, PSA lower are good enough. I do not have any PSA uppers or AKs though...Glad after all the horror stories.
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All of those parts break… that’s you’re supposed to have spare parts for your toys. Nothing to see here.
@@jayfishandshoot7147 lol cope and seethe. They don't break under 1k rounds from companies that have half a brain in their qc department
Well, its PSA what do you expect? Lol
@@DZ4295DBW it to hold up for more than 1k rounds
I wonder if it’s MIM? QC is to blame here. I have a PSA lower…the “AR-14” with Bidens “Dog Faced Pony Soldier” on it. I should have bought 10 of those lowers.
Psa has 0 qc
Well look at the name of the channel
Cope and seethe more poorboi
Your gun is not made to fire than fast, things break under stress 😮
@@davidbaker4637 you're an uneducated fool and know nothing. They are made to be full auto.
Out of the parvorty pony guns, ANDERSON SUCKS never had ANY problems out of PSA or BCA other than PSA steels your mags and sells them after you payed for them and we'll everyone knows 9mm pcc and hollow points but that being said in my opinion that was from accesive bolt bounce ijs but hey but the bolt did look brittle but I'm just going by the video 😅
It shouldn't crack like that regardless...especially with such a low round count
@@TerriblyTacticalMany bolts will crack just like that when they die, but yeah, a quality one shouldn't do that before getting over 15k-20k.
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It's crazy they make such trash
This just in: fudd cries about poverty pony
Fudd lol and poverty pony lol nothing is Anderson. If it were it's probably still be running.
@@TerriblyTactical so, palmetto ain't a poverty pony
🤯😭🤯
@@larrymarsico4059 indeed
Reno may is going to video respond to this 😂
@brettscott7574 lololol he's a shill soooooo...
You're shilling for good nite gear 🤣🤣🤣
@jdc8352 no I'm promoting their products cuz I have actually used em and for what they are and their price point, they are a solid option. Not everyone can afford a pvs14 let alone dual tubes.
It doesn't help that psa is in a discrimination law suit that all of the guns are novelty as well.
Indubitably
People believe what they want to believe. I have 2 PSA ARs and a Jakyl pistol. Approaching 8k rounds combined and outside of handguard bolts needing locktight and retorqued, no issues.
I bet some here carry a Sig P365 that currently has 200+ lawsuits for inadvertently firing for whatever reason, and I bet you're still carrying them.
Point is that one failure or model doesn't define a company.
Grow TFU and be adults...
Lol cope and seethe bro. Psa is trash and you're. Most likely lying about round counts. Sit down.
@@TerriblyTactical
Why would I lie? You're insignificant.
Just on numbers, you have a sample size of one, and I have three. Who's more likely lying? Lol
Oh look, someone new to PSA lemons. Granted this is a sizable one.
Experienced a handful of issues from PSA myself. They had a few years to get things together, but I guess it is more profitable for them to pump max amount of sales instead of doing things right.
To all the PSA fanboys claiming just warranty it: This could be a life or death situation, failure isn't an option!
Lesson: Buy from a reputable company who use proper metal/heat threat, and 100% QC, HPT and MPI their BCGs.
Precisely
@@TerriblyTactical I would go with LMT if you have the budget. DD and Geissele are also pretty good, BCM would the cheapest option that I still trust.
DDM4 PDW is a good option for a short 300aac. Now that EF4s are pretty quick, buying a factory SBR isn't that painful anymore.
Their quality control is as good as its customer service. I won’t buy from they again after my last experience with their horrible customer service.
Yeah they're garbage tier all the way around
You really do get what you pay for. PSA is hot trash.
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I can hear all the psa fan boys saying " I've never had a problem with mine".
They go to the range once every 2 months and shoot for groups and never get the gun hot enough to stress it and see what it can handle
@@armon8399 precisely
I’d say 2 months is being generous for these people
I shoot mine every other week or so an it's still fine. Thousands on thousands of rounds
@@worgankneesplasta you sir are either lucky or lying
@@69Clay420 LMAO
PSA trash
@@AlwaysReal319 precisely
Terrifying...most anyone can just buy these things ☹
Imagine being a sheep
You're 10-ply, bud.
@@rustyshackleford4299 extra soft
Psa sucks. They just can't make sht work. I build AKs and have used a few of their parts... All out of spec and heat treatment was non existent. They just make trash guns.. They need to get a fck quality control department for fck sake ! Its ridiculous AF
Agreed
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